We Hate Movies - S3 Ep120: She's All That

Episode Date: July 23, 2013

In this week's episode, the gang goes back to high school with Freddie Prinze Jr. and Rachel Leigh Cook in the 1999 teen snooze, She's All That! How is Freddie Prinze Jr. having to decide between all ...the Ivy League schools? How come Kevin Pollak doesn't do any impressions? And how much slang can Paul Walker possibly make up? Plus: Resident Matthew Lillard expert, Sean Weiner, drops by! She's All That stars Rachel Leigh Cook, Freddie Prinze Jr., Matthew Lillard, Paul Walker and Kevin Pollak; directed by Robert Iscove. For maximum enjoyment, be sure to go back and listen to our episode on Iscove's Boys and Girls! Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Andrew Juppin. Steven Sadek. Sean Winer. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the program. Welcome to the second to last. Hashtag SVEE3.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Sad to think about it. I know, I can't believe it. But everyone was kind of expecting something of this cloth, which is this... We do teen movies. You got to do a teen movie because you know what? Like sometimes the action movies, it's a little scary for everybody. You know, all the big bad sci-fi action ears. So you do Rachel Lee Cook cleaning a pool for two hours.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Is it every summer so far that you guys have done teen movies? Is there one per summer? No, we did nine months last year. We do like the counter-programming month. Right, right. You know, something, you would bring someone to who doesn't appreciate the action movies. They more enjoy the rom-coms with your big teen stars or your Hugh Grant's in that case. He's kind of a teen star. If he was an American actor, he could have been on a teen sitcom. You know what I mean? Like, he would be on Dawson's Creek as the older, moody, British boy.
Starting point is 00:01:20 He would have then had his own spinoff called Nervous Nellys. He looks about the same age as Freddie Prince Jr. in this film, by the way. The film is She's All That from 1999. This is sort of like a sequel episode because two summer blockbuster extravaganzas ago, we did Boys and Girls, which is another Robert Iskove film, noted dance choreographer Robert Iskove. Did these two movies, did from Justin to Kelly, a bunch of other dog shit. Yeah, just kept throwing fucking water on that career as much as he could. Just bales of water. but yeah I mean this is this is why I think we we sort of did this movie this year because you know in the boys and girls episode we did posit that you know we thought she's all that is the better movie of the two so I guess today is you know the ultimate decision and she's all that has come up on this program more than I'd like to admit and my wife was finally like you know you gotta put your money where your fat mouth is prove it just talk about she's all that and she's totally right and to do so the only way we could do it was bring in no
Starting point is 00:02:25 Matthew Lillard expert Sean Winer. It's true. That is my specialty on this program. Last time you were on, we did hackers where he's also sticking his tongue out of people. Right, where he's playing the exact same role. It's the exact same thing. He's just not a reality show
Starting point is 00:02:41 star yet. I'm kind of forgiving. I don't know if this is a general feeling, but I'm forgiving to Matthew Lillard after seeing him in the descendants. Yeah, right? Like you see him in that and you're like, oh, no, oh, okay, you're trying to redeem yourself. So you try not to go at him too hard, but he's kind, I mean, he's kind of really great in that movie,
Starting point is 00:03:02 you know, and I don't know if that's a credit to, you know, uh, uh, uh, Alexander Payne's directing or what. I also think that he's a, a reason that scream is successful, like, not the reason by any means, but like, he's in there. He's in that arsenal of, that arsenal of Jamie Kennedy, who's also a reason scream is successful. Let's not pretend that he's not. No, because there's things that you can point to in scream and be like, Yep, and there's things that you can point to and be like, no. So, like, case in point, Matthew Lillard.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yep, definitely. Case in point, Skeet Ulrich. No. Exactly. And you're like, yeah, that's a guy that gets it. Yeah, his performance as Stu Marker, there's no reason I should remember that full name. But I do. That's his character's name.
Starting point is 00:03:44 He's great. It's a memorable character. Speaking of Skeet Ulrich, is next summer going to be the Newton Boys? Is the Newton Boys on deck? I wish. Oh, man. I would feel bad attacking Richard Linklater. Oh, did he do that?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Really? I think that's his movie. It might be, yeah. We're like Vincent Dinoffrio plays everybody's grandfather in that movie. Like, he's so much older than the rest of the Newton boys. Ah, but they're all boys, though.
Starting point is 00:04:11 That's... They're brothers? They're supposed to be brothers in that movie? Yeah, it's like bank robbers. She's all that's a movie about a fucking bet, I guess. Right, so yeah, the famous bet. I mean, let's... Whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:23 There's no reason to plot. through this movie because everybody knows this movie. You've seen it. You've seen it. You've totally seen this movie. I would be hard pressed to find a person who's going to listen to this episode and has not seen this movie. I don't know. I think we're a bunch of old people though.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You know what I mean? Yeah. All right. Yeah. You're right. So let me backtrack. So people our age. So like 30 year old and above and then maybe like five years behind. You've seen this movie. And you remember this movie because everybody was, this was. This was
Starting point is 00:04:54 This is a buzz movie. This was a big movie. This was a movie that was so big. You went and saw it with one of your dude friends because the girl from the drugs ad was in it. I'm looking at me. What drug? Oh, she was the brain on drugs, chick.
Starting point is 00:05:07 This is your brain. And this is your job and your fucking family. And she's making the scrambled eggs. And she's smashing the kitchen. Oh, yeah, you think that fucking egg was something? Now I'm going to break this whole house. Are you guys talking about Little Kim? Little Kim was a...
Starting point is 00:05:21 No, Rachel Lee Cook. Uh, Lil Kim also in this movie. We'll get to her. We'll get there. It's kind of a star-studded cast of people I don't like in movies. Like, it's just, really, Matthew Lillard is the high mark. Tell me. He is. And Tim Matheson, but that kind of doesn't count. It doesn't count because he's got literally two scenes in the movie. So much, he's in it so little that the second scene he has. I think both of them take place in Freddie Prince Jr's bedroom. Yeah, likely. And the second time you're like, oh, yeah. You're in this movie. Animal House. What is, so we're afflicted by Freddie Prince Jr. starting with I know what you did last summer. Yeah. That's about... Yeah, I think that's right. And then we get like boys and girls and we get this. No, no, no. No. No. This was first. This was first.
Starting point is 00:06:07 This was first. Girls was 2000 or 2001 possible. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. There's a summer catch in there. There's that Scooby do movies a little later. Summer catch. Matthew Lillard. Two fucking Scooby movies. Matthew Lillard. This movie, Matthew Lillard. Wing Commander, Matthew Lillard. Those dudes are best buds. They're noted best buds Noted Hollywood best buds
Starting point is 00:06:28 I kind of like noted Hollywood Best Buds. I'm a fan. Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were like, we're best buds and they're like, ah, we got covered. Do you think Matthew Lillard and Freddie Prince Jr. argue over which one's the Affleck and which one's the Damon of their relationship? All the time.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Who's who? I think don't be fooled by hair color because I do think all right. I think Freddie Prince Jr. thinks he's the Damon of the bunch. Yeah. Well, yeah, but I would agree with that, though, because Matthew Lillard has made a successful, a more successful career into, like, the dramatic thing, which Ben Affleck kind of did first. And he directed a film. Who, Freddie Prince Jr.? Matthew Lillard directed a movie called Fat Kid Rules of the World. I think it came out last
Starting point is 00:07:12 year that I'll never see. Right. It's on HBO Go right now. And it's like a fat kid holding the lunch tray or whatever. It's in a locked vault in my mind of movies that I'll just never see. But the reason, uh, Frey Prince, Jr. isn't the Matt Damon of the bunch. He said that David's stuck around this whole time. Who's heard anything about Freddie Prince Jr. in five years?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Because he's just got that Sarah Michelle Buffy money. They don't have to do shit. He's the guy that should do TV, like hardcore. I don't know why he hasn't condescended to television. No, that's true. They all fuck around on those like robot chicken programs.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They all do voices on those. And also Freddie Prince Jr. did dip his toe into TV. Oh, really? I'm going pull up the old IMDB because it was recent and it was canceled. Like almost as quickly as it started this show is canceled. I'm going to find. He's doing
Starting point is 00:08:04 a lot of shit in video games now. He's all over the place with the video games. God damn it. Where is it? It's here. It has to be here. He's a great leading man if he never has to talk. So he's great for video games. Here you go. Two seasons. Or no, it was one season. Two thousand five to
Starting point is 00:08:19 2006 is Freddy. Freddy. Freddy. Freddy. It says A successful chef living in Chicago inherits three generations of family. His niece, his sister-in-law, and his grandmother, and learns to survive
Starting point is 00:08:33 living with three very different women. Oh, my God. Dude, Freddie Prince, Jr., listen to this cast, Freddie Prince Jr., and Brian Austin Green. Good God. Which woman does he play? Who? Matchan Amick from Twin Peaks
Starting point is 00:08:49 is in it, too. Oh, man. Does Brian Austin Green play the Cokehead brother or like The battling addiction best friend? Probably. I would say Brian Austin Green Much better actor than Freddie Prince Jr. He never got his chance.
Starting point is 00:09:07 No, you're right. And he was doing all the right things. He had three names. He had three names. It's the mid-90s. No, no, no. You're confusing things. He was doing all the right things
Starting point is 00:09:16 if he wanted to assassinate a president. No, but we're talking like mid-90s. It's Sarah Michelle Geller. It's Jeffrey LaVewitt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty Prince, Jr. That's kind of three names. Yeah, well, it's like two in a title.
Starting point is 00:09:30 You can call someone junior. That's a name. It's true. They do it on fucking Breaking Bad. That's why that poor prick starts calling himself Flynn. Man, if I was just junior to somebody, that would get old quick. It would be rough. It would be really rough.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Who else we got in this movie? Paul Walker. Oh, man. Paul Walker. I think we looked this up before we went on the air. Steve comes in and he's like, Paul Walker's consistently made a movie every year since 1998. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:10:02 And we looked it up, and he only skipped like two years, like 2012 and like 2003. But multiple movies. Multiple movies. In a lot of years, it's like doing three or four. Just doing stuff. And the reason he missed those two years was because he just forgot. He slept.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He slept through. He slipped through all of it He thinks he did all of them But then he's going to look at his IMDB page It'd be like, oh shit I mean, but he hasn't made though He's got all that fast and furious one He's good
Starting point is 00:10:32 He's been in all but one of them Like those are big paycheck movies Do not worry about Paul Walker Other things I won't You know what hashtag do not worry about Paul Walker That's it Other things
Starting point is 00:10:47 IMDB'd During the screening of this movie wore, you know, how old Anna Pacquin was when she was nominated for her supporting actress role. That she won for the piano. That she won, things not looked up on IMDB when Paul Walker was nominated for anything. No, we skipped that one. Maybe he's won a couple of Saturn Awards. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:11 What are those for? This is a movie that cleaned up at two major awards ceremonies. The Teen Choice Awards. It really did. The MTV Movie Awards. They won Best Romantic Duo at the MTV Movie Awards. Oh, this movie won... A couple of Moon Men.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, they won all sorts of Moon Men and... No, no, no. The movie awards are the popcorn and all sorts of fucking orange blimps or surfboards or whatever the shit they give you at Nickelodeon. So many slime baths were won. So the plot of this movie is it's basically my fair lady with idiots. it's... I almost spent hard cider all over
Starting point is 00:11:56 all of our equipment. Oh, no, it is. It's Pygmalion, which is my fair lady, with morons. Right, right. Add in a dabble of morons. She's all that. Because everybody comes back
Starting point is 00:12:08 from spring break and Ferdie Prince Juilliard. Freddie Prince Juilliard? No. No. Those words do good. Freddie Prince Juilliard
Starting point is 00:12:16 is three names. That would count. That's why his career never took off quite the same way as Brian Austin Green's? I was at a musical the other day and I looked up one of the actors and he won the Robin Williams
Starting point is 00:12:29 Prize at Juilliard, which is something that I think is amazing. What is the parameters of winning that prize? Being obnoxious to your entire class for four years? Being successful while hopped up on goofballs. So Freddy Prince
Starting point is 00:12:45 Juilliard is the hottest kid in school and everybody loves him. He's a captain of the soccer team. rough and tumbled soccer team I mean this is southern California too So I guess they could have gone with like Captain of the surf team So like
Starting point is 00:12:58 You know it's at least they did soccer of real sports Surf races Yeah Like what was that game where you could be like The gorilla on the surfboard Oh CNC something or other Yeah See and music factor
Starting point is 00:13:11 But it's like CNC sports Like sports incorporated You could be like a monkey or Or just a cat It was a monkey a cat or a guy or a really weird native with a big fake mask on his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That game is burned into my memory.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Classic non-aquatic animals. Continues. So he's the guy. He comes back. He gets dumped by Jody Linne O'Keefe, who's never done a movie after this. I mean, I guess she has, but nobody's seen her. She had the numerous names going for her, too. She did.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And she was, you know, she's a super hot chick. She met Matthew Lillard on vacation. He's kind of like spring break. Spring break. MTV's spring break and now this reminds you by the way of like the salad days of MTV because this is like like 90s MTV is kind of like the last bastion of like you know what we look back on fondly as MTV like again you're 30 years old or older like this is what we're talking about like you know that last season like that real world Hawaii that's the last
Starting point is 00:14:14 season where ugly people could be on the real world you know all that kind of stuff and this spring break like he's being kids at home aren't going to remember this but the puck character from real world that guy was an obnoxious prick who they make into like a VJ in this movie the the side note uh the ugly people on real world Hawaii wore Rudy and tech correct I thought tech was a very handsome man tech was a handsome tech's not an attractive guy he's got style going for him so he gets away with it he's not a good looking dude he puts himself together well you did By Rudy, you mean Ruthie. Oh, Ruthie, the drunk.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, she was heinous because she was just throwing up in the pool in every episode. She was going through some shit. Kaya, however, was a very, like a Carrie Ann Moss type. Do you have any more names back there? Because I'm really impressed. Who else do we have? I'll think about it during the show. All the rest of the dudes in that season, though, aside from tech, I think were done.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Oh, I don't remember you of this. There's probably a Colin in there. There was likely a Colin or a Trevor. So he gets dumped by What's Her Face Jody Lino Keefe It's like Oh my God
Starting point is 00:15:25 Who am I got to go to senior prom with And Paul Walker's like He's just a mouth-breathing dummy You know Don't worry about Paul Walker You worry about your own shit Do not worry about Paul Walker But he is a mouth-breathing dummy
Starting point is 00:15:42 And he's a terrible actor In this movie I would say this about Paul Walker At least I just recently watched that Fast 6, which I think is a fucking great action movie. So that means the stunts are really cool. And the script is terrible. But he's a better actor at least in 2013 than he was in 1999.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So he's making strides. But it's like really slow strides that if you're not paying attention, it kind of just looks like you're the same. Yeah. But in this movie, he's terrible. And he's the kind of bad actor. I pointed this out when we were watching it. But it's like, unless he's being spoken. to by another actor or he's delivering
Starting point is 00:16:20 a line of dialogue, he just turns off like a robot. He's gone. It's like a motion sensor light, you know? Like if there's no one in the room, it just fucking goes dark. You would think he was a lamp in the scene. Like you just there are people talking and engaging
Starting point is 00:16:36 with each other and he's a lamp. Which is ridiculous, Steve, but you're totally right when you said this. He is being run around in circles by Freddie Prince's acting in this movie. Oh yeah, he's just acting circles. Freddy Prince's acting circles around him. Which he's never done to any other human being
Starting point is 00:16:52 or plant or lamp on this planet. Freddie Prince Jr. is a terrible actor. He's married to a wonderful, beautiful, talented actress who, you know, has a great, great show that rakes in bank forever. You're listening to three hardcore Buffy fans here, ladies and gentlemen. Finally, every time we do this, we're doing this show,
Starting point is 00:17:12 it's me and Andrew, and we're always like, hey, Buffy everybody. And then there's some other idiot on this couch that doesn't like Buffy the Vampire. Slare, finally Sean's here. We got the trifecta going now. We know. We know. But yeah, Frey Pinch-Tchiner's terrible.
Starting point is 00:17:25 He's always been terrible. He's got, you know, like, he obviously kind of had the hookup coming in to a certain extent. He had some celebrity status from his dad. He comes onto the scene. He's got that great, like, I'm going to push the majority of my hair, gel it forward, and then right at the front, I'm just going to give it a vertical kind of 90-degree thing. Oh, he had that.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Oh, yeah. Oh, I was rocking that for a long time. I think Freddy Prince Jr. might still be rocking that. Oh, man. He's really like a Gavin Rossdale to Gwen Stefani. Like, they're these guys who just, they just, it sounds sarcastic, but that has to be true. Because it's true, it's totally true. These, like, ladies who know how to continue, you know, they can grow with the times.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And these other guys just, like, fade into this early 90s. I'll just, like, put the kid in the baby Bjorn and hang out by the pool. I mean, no, yeah, he's stuck in 1996 forever. Yeah, that's just what it's going to be. And he's, like, everything on his body is just going to start getting old, but he's still going to be wearing Kangall hats and fucking V-neck polo shirts. Figure out how those were designed because they're all over this movie. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It's amazing. Polo shirts, ribbed T-shirts. Just horrible. Like, Aztec designs. Black shirts with brown jackets. Like, everything is insane. Now, quick question. Paul Walker is to Ryan Felipe as Freddie.
Starting point is 00:18:46 as Freddie Prince Giener is to who is the guys who have like gotten found a way in but like Paul Walker was always shut out because Paul Walker isn't attached to
Starting point is 00:18:56 a talented person right that's his mistake that is he tried to attach himself to racially cook but that didn't work but again remember do not worry about Paul Walker
Starting point is 00:19:07 do not worry about him he is laughing naked on a mountain of cash somewhere right now practicing his lines for Fast and Furious Seven. They give it to him a year early, just to be sure. They'd actually put those movies out every six months,
Starting point is 00:19:23 but it takes him a year to memorize the dialogue, I think is what happens. And Vin Diesel's sitting there going, God, come on, man. I just want to make these car movies. Want to eat my batteries. He's a robot. Anyway, so basically, the bet is,
Starting point is 00:19:42 the My Fair Lady bed is, Freddie Prince Jr.'s hot shit. He's like, you know what? Fuck, fuck that girl that dump me. I can make anybody the prom queen. And Paul Walker's like, no, you can't. Not anybody. He goes, no, you can't.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Click. And he stops talking. He's out of the scene. And basically, he powers down. They're looking around. Who can we make it? Who would be? And he's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Paul Walker, you get to pick. And he's like, mm, all right, do I want to pick the girl who's overweight? No, I don't for some reason. do I want to pick the girl with like you know weird hair that's it the really attractive girl with a weird haircut it's like you're not fooling anybody here movie
Starting point is 00:20:24 you know like there's like a witch fucking flies through the frame and he's like he's like this is the parlor scene of like 90s movies you're like oh here we go like okay select and we have to watch
Starting point is 00:20:42 a minute to two minutes of just like horrendous options and then a beautiful actress gets revealed to the camera. Do I want to pick Susie Esman, Ria Perlman, let me see who else is back there. Danny DeVito and a wig. Oh wait, there's a cute girl with glasses. Oh, she'd be the toughest one to be Prob Queen. Now, this is, I'm reminded of a motion picture that came out a few years back, a Paris Hilton vehicle by the name of the haughty and the naughty.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Oh, excellent. Okay. I never saw it, but I know the premise of it is, like, Paris Hilton is Paris Hilton, and she's got to be friends with, like, this ugly chick, who's played by the girl who played Al on step by step, like the kind of tomboy daughter. I don't remember the actress's name, but she's very attractive, right? And in the movie, they make her look like an out-and-out witch, like she's got fucking warts on a fake nose and fucked up teeth and groaning hair. though. That's what I'm saying. Like, do something to make her not look like attractive Rachel Lee Cook. If he's, if the whole thing is
Starting point is 00:21:53 Paul Walker's gunning to find a quote unquote ugly chick just ugly fire makeup department. Give her something crazy. You know, like she's just out of like some like, you know, mental health institution. So there's something that you're, right. So maybe not a physical thing, but like, yeah, maybe she's like a volatile. Zany for an exchange student. Hi. Something. It reminds me of like, remember how
Starting point is 00:22:15 convincing Britney Murphy was as the ugly girl and clueless? Oh, yeah. There's no way you're buying it. Nope. Nope. But they did stuff to that character. I mean, that's a, that's a, you know, the side plot of that movie is a total pygmalion thing also. But they did that.
Starting point is 00:22:31 She's more of like an Eliza do little situation. Yeah. Because she's got the accent and she's just a little dim-witted, you know what I mean? So, like, they did stuff. But Rachel Lee Cook is just like attractive. talented artists, you know, she's like her problem is
Starting point is 00:22:47 she's just a little bit introverted. Well, she's a fucking troll. What a freak. Send her to the circus. She doesn't have a lot of friends. I'm going to stop the one literature major type. I guess the letter. It's based on Emma, and that's a side plot in Emma is the relaunch.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. Excuse me. So the clueless part of it. Yes, is Emma. The only reason why somebody doesn't do an accent in this movie, though, is because nobody has the acting chops to pull one off. And there's no way they could afford to pay a fucking accent
Starting point is 00:23:19 a dialect coach for that long. Can you imagine try to teach Paul Walker to do an accent? I mean, he's fine, though. He's doing fine. Don't worry about him. Don't worry about Paul Walker. It's, it is a, oh. That's a pretty blues situation, which he's also in.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I don't think he does a Southern accent on that movie. Nope. He's the one person who is like, don't worry about Paul. Exactly. Just don't worry about Paul Walker. He's not going to do it. that accent. There's no attempt in any movie where he should possibly have
Starting point is 00:23:47 any kind of accent. Fuck it. Just fuck it. Leave him alone. He's like, do you not worry about Paul Walker. He's like, oh, I'm Paul Walker. So basically it's like, oh my God, this is going to be really fucking difficult.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And I mean, side note to this episode, everything we're about to say has been covered in better form and not another teen movie. Which really skewers this film. I love how many times, looking up things on this movie, they said parodied in Not Another
Starting point is 00:24:17 The Other Teen, like, that was one of those, that was the scary movie thing where you literally took the script of a movie and just inserted jokes. Right, right. And then not of the teen movie was kind of Can't Hardly Wait, because I mean let's not forget the late 90s, we were trying to do John Hughes movies. We were trying to bring that back. We really were, and I mean, I actually
Starting point is 00:24:35 not even for research, just for Pleasure. I watched Can't Hardly Wait pretty recently. The wife and I did also and it fucking holds up and it's still a totally hilarious movie total time capsule movie it's a fun movie no i like that movie i like that movie there's no reason to not i mean it's not a perfect fucking movie and it gets pretty ham-fisted at parts but newsflash so does every john hughes movie ever that's just what happens it's a movie that knows i mean this movie kind of knows how ridiculous it is but that movie is
Starting point is 00:25:04 just aware and allows itself to be kind of stupid right like like all the the jocks are so heightened and like everybody it's a heightened reality at the very least And I think that's really fun by comparison to this movie that just looks like, you know, like a high school, like community theater production of that movie. Yeah, this movie is, it's a movie made in like the same kind of vein as the can't hardly wait movie, right? But it's made, it's written and directed and acted by people that have no comedic sensibility whatsoever. So it just comes across like, yeah, maybe it's not taking itself too seriously, but it doesn't understand how to have fun with the material either. Right. So it just looks like they're doing a bad job at taking themselves seriously.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Like this joke from Paul Walker. His house is enormous. His dad owns Harrison Ford. The actor? No, the car dealership. That's hilarious. Wow, great. Harrison Ford fucking car dealership.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And like, honestly, if you give that joke to Seth Green, he'll make it fly. I'm not even the world's biggest Seth Green fan at all. He'll pull it off. You give it to 10 out of 12 people performing at a shitty open mic night in downtown New York City. And they'll pull off that joke so as it doesn't stop everything and have you listen to him go, I mean, it's so terribly delivered. Terrible. Like if it was a car, if you were driving the car of this movie and you heard that line delivered,
Starting point is 00:26:37 you'd think like a tire blew out. You'd almost run off the road. And you'd stop and you'd get out And you'd make sure everything was okay And then you'd like very cautiously turn the engine over again and drive off So you put your directional on you're on like an abandoned desert road And you're like looking to see Because that's how dead stop of a line it is
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like you're driving along that jokes delivered And somehow the car is upside down It's just stopped upside down Everybody's like oh no It's underwater You just have to push it out and I mean that's that's a lot of this movie and so basically we've got our we've got our it's a really ready-made plot right like and now he's being deceitful so he's a bad guy but he's going to learn his lesson and she's everything this movie's really sincere so she's got a dead mother she does this she's an artist in this well let's not she the art that she produces it looks like the art that jack nickleson's the joker makes in Tim Burton's Batman like where everything is gruesome and, like, scarred up,
Starting point is 00:27:41 and it's all collage-based. A lot of newspaper clipping. Yeah, it looks like Meg Ryan's collage and fucking whatever that movie is there. The picture we did. Addicted to love. Addicted to love. Yeah, her weird stalker collage in that movie.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Because it's just, I expected her to walk into her art class with Cleo Duval and be like, Lawrence, music. And then just start walking around. Trust or whatever the fuck song that is. Now, but here's what I would. give to the authenticity of how fucking terrible her artwork is
Starting point is 00:28:12 it's the same thing like it's the short stories I wrote in high school you know what I mean it's the fucking screenplays I wrote in high school right right just transferred to shitty fucking collage painting but you can't trust it that's the whole thing it's like yes if a if a
Starting point is 00:28:28 capable filmmaker and a decent cast were added you'd be like oh that is high school artwork but instead it just looks like they're continuously being incompetent at making movies. Well, yeah, because you think, like, oh, this is supposed to be really good, which I think it might sort of... She got to get to make fun of an art class.
Starting point is 00:28:46 There are art school bullies in this movie. They rough her up. They do. They're like, oh, nice painting, really derivative. And they, like, shove her. Yeah, it's like Cleo Duval and some other woman. They're like, fucking put a cigarette out on her arm. It's Cleo Duval and her stunt double. That's the way, though, by the way, that Freddie Prince kind of snakes himself into talking to her. He sees an opening.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Is, you know, he says something about... about like how he's interested in art and he needs art tutoring he's like yeah yeah I really like art uh maybe you should give me some tips or something and we can hang out and you could tutor me a painting or whatever and she's like really you know because her mom died and she's really sensitive like she's very much about like i don't trust it she's like stone cold steve austin the late 90s dta don't trust anybody that's absolutely true you never know when you're going to get a fucking body slam from behind you it's just a great little less reason she gets a slat a little bit chair to the head.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Dwayne Johnson comes out out of the back and rock bottoms her. I'd love it. So, yeah, by the way, she's got a best friend of this movie we need to talk about. We certainly do. I don't know the actor's name. The fella's name is Eldon Henson. You might remember
Starting point is 00:29:57 him from the Mighty Ducks. I think he's an idle hands. He is. He's one of the zombies in idle hands, him and Seth Green. He has something sticking out of his head for the majority of the film. Is that possible? I would say he's actually probably one of better actors in this movie, if not one of the best, because he's at least comedic
Starting point is 00:30:12 and funny, and, like, he just really needs to play a gay guy. Like, this is the 90s version of the gay teenager. It's the closest you could get to having a gay teenager. He's not allowed to. He's doing, so what they do is they swap out gay for fat. Yeah. They do. It's so awful.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Like, you can see what they're doing. He's also, by the way, Ashton Coucher's crazy friend in The Butterfly effect. That might be a stay tuned. ah it's 2004 next year we'll get there and he wants he goes up like she's like
Starting point is 00:30:43 I don't know and he goes up to her quote unquote as a heterosexual guy and he's like Lainey the hottest guy in school is asking you out what are you doing
Starting point is 00:30:51 and it's like what is like just say that this character's gay and we're fine and like well let's move on from it and to boot later on she looks at him
Starting point is 00:30:59 and she says like do you think I'm kissable which is hilarious but do you think I'm kissable and his response should be no because I'm not attracted to women
Starting point is 00:31:10 but instead it's I just want to you know me I eat a lot of hot dogs it's like it's a real like rock Hudson situation in 1999 it's interesting though because this same exact character exists in mean girls
Starting point is 00:31:26 the dude that's friends with Lindsay Logan and Lizzie Kaplan in that movie it's the same fucking character but he's allowed to be gay yeah and you know and that's what four or five years later or something like that, whatever mean girls came out.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I don't know. Yeah, that's a good movie. It makes those choices that it's a little... Though in that movie, what's her name's not allowed to be a lesbian, right? Lizzie Kaplan is not a lesbian. Although, I guess she's being made fun of for looks. So they all...
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, she's... I retract. The character's like not... The character, I believe, is openly heterosexual. So it's not like any ambiguous. I'm just in art classes a lot, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Doritos. Like Clea Duval in this film? Yeah, Clea Duval. whose character is clearly a lesbian but she just takes a bunch of art classes that's the only way you can be gays wear hot dog wear overalls you know be overweight and just take a bunch of art classes these overalls this kid is it's a bad i mean there's a lot of bad looks in this movie a lot of rib t-shirts and so on and so forth polo vnecks that happened somehow i don't get hybrid clothing this kid's out like you know like when you go to the casting office is like all right this is your palate and like these are the outfits you're going to wear and Every outfit he had has a t-shirt, overalls, and a fucking button-down shirt over both of those things somehow. It's not just him, though. Like, you know how sometimes, like, stories come out, like, small towns? Like, the high school has, like, a fucking clap outbreak or something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:53 This school's got an overalls epidemic going on. Sure does. Because Rachel Lee Cook's wearing them. There's tons of extras wearing them. By the way, side note, this is some of the worst extras casting I've ever seen in my life. Of course, you, I mean, the whole thing with an extra is that you don't notice an extra, right? Like, you fill the frame. You should not notice an extra. I watched extras so much more than I watched Fray of Prince Jr. in this movie.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, like, for people whose job it is to be shaped like a human being, some of the performances from these people are outweighing the people on the poster. It's ridiculous. And it's all, like, you know, they're fucking, they're looking at the actors so they're, like, participating in the scene when they really shouldn't be. there's a lot of bad dancing going on you know this is a bob iscove movie so we're going to get to some choreographed dancing later although this time there's no fucking soap machines anywhere i was a little disappointed about that it might be a wild theory here but the reason we entertain those out okay good good um the reason we might be noticing the extras uh over the main cast members is because they might be acting so they just might be kind of coming out coming through the screen and we're just trying to look past That's true. Our mouth breathers? Yeah, if you, if you had a painting and you had the background characters in color, but the foreground characters in black and white, you would notice the background a lot more.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Oh, yeah. That whatever the fucks go, whatever is going on in the foreground. Certainly black and white. Yes. Now, here's something I want to put out there, and if it comes across a little crass, I apologize. Oh, for this show? But it's something that I'm legitimately curious about. So in this movie, her little brother is played by Kieran Culkin.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Okay. Kieran Culkin's character, say that, he's dual hearing impaired. He's got, he's got hearing aids in both ears. This is never addressed in the movie whatsoever. My question is, if you have, if you're in a wheelchair, you've got fucking crutches or hearing aids, like in a movie like this, should it not be addressed? Right? You got to talk about it? At a certain point, it's kind of cool where it's like, oh, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You know, we're totally fine with this character. He's trying to normalize it. It's normal. He just does what he does. We're not to talk about every second of every day. But it turns to do a thing, but what are we trying to say here? What are we trying to do? I don't need a side scene where Kevin Pollock takes him to the fucking audiologist.
Starting point is 00:35:20 But like, I just like maybe there's a scene where one of the school bullies is making fun of him for the hearing aid. Freddie Prince Jr. steps in as like, hey, man, lay off this kid, you know. Don't make fun of people with disabilities. Like use it as a teaching opportunity for all. all the, you know, 13-year-old kids that are going to come see this movie. We come full circle to how this movie doesn't do its homework because they don't understand disability or being impaired
Starting point is 00:35:45 because there's a scene where Rachel Lee Cook has her glasses take it off and she's like, meh. And you're like, you're just wearing them? And it's like, you should try context. She's like, I have them. I just know, okay. Like just write a conflict into the scene. right a conflict to resolve.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Instead, we're just fucking doggy paddling. Like, I'm looking at the two of you right now, and there's two pairs of glasses staring right back at me. If I were to take the glasses off your head. We wouldn't be staring at you. You'd be like, hey, man, I need those. And I'm not saying, like, you're going to be, like, instantly blind, but you're like, I need these fucking glasses.
Starting point is 00:36:23 For a reason. You know, I don't need the mill house reaction. I'm like, I need those to live. That's just the fucking greatest line ever. But at least be like, don't take my glasses off. I wear those. Those are prescription glasses. Well, this all, the scene you're talking about happens right after he goes to the performance
Starting point is 00:36:39 art. Holy shit. He kind of talks to her to go in a performance. Because he's trying to win this bet. He's kind of being a scumbag. He's like, look, I guess I like art or whatever. She's like, well, I'm an idiot. So she goes with him to this art show. And there's a really long, overly long, running the clock
Starting point is 00:36:55 down scene where we're doing a performance art piece that's like, hey, is it performance art funny? And I can get that in 30 seconds. takes three minutes of nothing and there's like little people involved and like Alexis Arquette's running around with his or her shirt off so by the way Freddie Prince Jr.'s other problem in this movie aside from like being best friends with Paul Walker which you shouldn't even worry about just do not worry
Starting point is 00:37:17 don't worry about Paul Walker. I'm fine guys I'm fine thank you and that's a more accurate impression so his problem is his dad's incredibly rich they live at a palace His dad, Tim Matheson from an animal house. Or not Boone. Otter. Otter. Thank you. So he, and he's a dardy.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He went to Dartmouth. He's a total dardy. He's a total dardy. I think my great-grand uncle was a dardy. Oh, wow. Yeah, Uncle Stan. So he's a dardy. And, you know, he's like, oh, have you decided what college to go to, son?
Starting point is 00:37:55 He's like, no, I haven't heard of back from any of the colleges yet. Blah, blah. I don't know, dad. Leave me alone. So he goes upstairs, and he reveals a stack of acceptance letters from Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, NYU, like all the big ones. And they all, in the first line, say in all caps lock, welcome to insert Ivy League school. Here's what that is, because it's all, I guarantee you, if we went back and freeze-framed every single one of those fuckers, it's just the same wording. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And it's congratulations. welcome to Dartmouth through all of them because this movie isn't a movie so basically that's his
Starting point is 00:38:38 big that's his white man's burden in this film is that he doesn't know which I really school to go to which is really difficult
Starting point is 00:38:44 I can't make up my mind so he goes up on stage because like Rachel Lee Cook is like okay you know you want to be an artist how we'll be a performance artist
Starting point is 00:38:51 he's like performance art performance art he pulls out a hacky sack oh come on and starts doing a hacky sack of his life like
Starting point is 00:38:59 a good college. It's like kind of a train spot. Yeah, don't let it drop. Don't let it drop. Pressure. Pressure. And it has my favorite thing in the world, which is a hacky-sac stunt double. Who's about a foot and a half taller than him. Clearly like a skater dude. He looks like Paul Ryan. Failed vice presidential candidate, Paul Ryan.
Starting point is 00:39:19 But it can't be Paul Ryan because Paul Ryan doesn't know how to hack. No, he might. He's noted in Rage Against the Machine Head. Oh. God, what a fucking dickhead. anyway. And, you know, so after that, like, she's like, oh, wow. And he gets a big applause because everyone's impressed by him for some reason. And he blows them away. The embers start to, her facade starts to crumble a little bit. She's like, oh, thanks. You got really beautiful eyes. She took that dumb glasses off. Take off those stupid eye glasses. And she gets so fucking offended. But, like, you know, not because, like, oh, you just ripped the glasses off my head. And I barely know. you she's more concerned about the fact that like here's the most popular guy in school who like says something nice to her and she's like uh what does he say she's like uh this happened
Starting point is 00:40:09 once before it was in the 20s it was called surrealism and like fucking walks away it's like granted even maybe you're uncomfortable but like he didn't do anything bad he was like you have pretty eyes and she's like oh great well because my whole world's upside down everything's fine this could work out but you're already lying to me. You're lying to me because I know for a fact my eyeballs are disgusting. Well, the weird thing is he's really creepy in this movie. Like, not only is he trying to win a bet. And, like, we don't know what's going on inside Freddy Prince Jr. Because he's Freddy Prince Jr.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Oh, wait. Actually, I just want to stop you there because I actually have some audio from what's going on inside Freddie Prince Jr.'s head. That was every those exclusive audio. Wow. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Is that live or is that archive? It was archived, but I was able to get it in preparation for if it came up for the show.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Thank you. That's awesome stuff. Technology. You know, so basically, he's like, let's go to the beach. And she's like, all right, let's go. He shows up to her house the next day. And it's really, like, again, like, this isn't how you court somebody in the 90s. Maybe you send her an email, a tech.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You're going to page her. You're going to page her. I apologize. We learned that. You're going to call her landline to landline and be like, hey, let's have a nice one. Cordless to cordless to cordless. Cornless to Cardless, have a nice conversation. But he does not do that.
Starting point is 00:41:32 He just keeps a creep. He keeps showing up at her house and like, so much knocking on doors. Kieran Culkin's got a crush on him. He's like, oh man, I really want a big brother. And he's like, ha ha, that's great. He's like, hey, want to play Sega? And he's like, not really. And Kevin Pollock's like, I'm blue collar Kevin Pollock, by the way.
Starting point is 00:41:50 You know, I clean pools for a living. My daughter's so sweet. We live in a mansion. I love Jeopardy and wearing my bathrobe in front. front of company. Don't worry, I'm not balled under this baseball hat, which I wear through the entire film. Part of the reason why
Starting point is 00:42:06 Frey Prince Jr. seems like such a creep is that he doesn't start acting until about two seconds after the door opens in all these scenes. So he's got this blank Paul Walker look on his face, and then you see him boot up and then smile and say, hey.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Changing power auxiliary from Paul Walker to Freddie Prince, Jr. So he's like, let's go to the beach. She's like, I don't want to go to the beach with you because I just don't want to go to the beach. He's like, you got to. And he's like, well, I'm going to hang around your house all day and hang out with your family. She's like, well, I guess I have to go to the beach now.
Starting point is 00:42:40 This is where Freddie Prince Jr. introduces her to his army of boy slaves. Yep. Because she's like, I can't go to the beach. I have to help my dad clean the house. I have chores to do. And he's like, well, that's great. I'm a whole bunch of people with me. And so then all of these little boys just.
Starting point is 00:42:58 walk into the house. And they don't, they don't define, I mean, you know, it's clear that they're JV, but the letters JV don't come out. When he says like, oh, it's JV, you get it. But there's like a minute of movie time that passes where it's just like 13-year-old boys. Does he actually mention how he knows that? Yeah, he knew the JV. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It's kind of like that movie bully for five minutes. Yeah, you're like, ooh. Who are these kids? It's going to make you watch all this gay pornography with me. Which brings us back to the. the fact that Freddie Prince Jr. is not a nice guy. No, no. Never sell you on anything about
Starting point is 00:43:34 him, except for like his white man's burden. That's the only thing that he's contending with, and he's not a nice guy. He bullies JV around. He's introduced by walking up to a picture of himself and smiling at himself. The one opportunity that they fucking blew
Starting point is 00:43:50 it with with that shot is I wanted him to walk up, look at the... It's a framed fucking photograph, by the way, because he's like class president. He's Mr. Prez. That's his license plate. Oh, God. I want him to walk up to that picture.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Look at it. Kind of tilt his head like a dog and then like polish part of it with his cuff. Like that's the one thing he doesn't. Like there should be a smudge on there and he's like, uh, uh, uh, uh. I think of it like a dog, he wouldn't know what it was. He tried to like walk into it. He's like a dog. He thinks it's another him and he's really confused.
Starting point is 00:44:24 He's actually, that's the one full understanding of disability in this film is he's he's got like a facial recognition problem. That's why he keeps looking at Rachel Lee Cook and saying like your eyes are beautiful. And she's like, you can't see my face. It's clear to me because you would say that false statement. So we go to the beach. We're having a great time at the beach. And there's a, there's a volleyball scene that does not hold up to top gun, I'll tell you that fucking much.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Does not hold a goddamn candle. So this is like, there's a bunch of, uh, uh, uh, notable. actors here that we can sort of get out of the way to like round out their gang. Let's run through them. So it's it's Deulay Hill from the West Wing and USA Network Syke characters
Starting point is 00:45:10 welcome. Perennial Syke just all the time. And then you got Lil Kim. Lil Kim. And then you got Gabrielle Union. Bad Boys 2's Gabriel Union. And then there are a couple other actors that don't really cut it. Just some people that you've seen.
Starting point is 00:45:28 of stable that kind of what... I mean, and Cleo DeVal is another example of this. Who's also in Can't Hardly Way with a bunch of other people from this movie. Yeah. Like, that was the thing. Do they know Can't Hardly Wait was the good one? It was the high water mark, really. If Cleo Duval's like, huh, which movie was I in that was better?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Can't Hardly Wait or she's all that? I think she probably has an understanding that it's Can Hardly Wait. Maybe she had a better time making. She's all that. She's got a bigger role in it. She's got some lies. A little more dramatic end of things. you know, she's only got like one or two lines
Starting point is 00:46:00 and can't hardly wait, but I think everybody knows she's all that is the the low end of this wave of teen movies. The second story of this movie that kind of, it happens kind of in contrary to everything else is Paul Walker realizes that she's hot and wants to fuck her.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And like, that's, he just sets his laser vision on it. It's like, dude, if you don't want to fuck her, I'll fuck her, bro. He says it by saying, look at the bubbles on her when she gets into her swimsuit. And what's amazing is like Paul Walker is pitching
Starting point is 00:46:31 mostly slang that he's made up or somebody the screenwriter Fleming and or M. Night Shyamalan has made up. And so he says things like she's totally bubblishes in the donka donka biepap
Starting point is 00:46:47 and you're like, that's not real slang and everybody in the world doesn't act around it. So you're like, I guess it is. Well, because it's the 90s and we need to have overwritten dialogue at every turn because Kevin Williamson did that once did that well once so that's how teenagers talk period that's we have the the kevins and quentin to thank you guys uh but yeah no so we just got to be saying a bunch of shit just just diarrhea falling out of our mouth with some pop culture references and so on and so
Starting point is 00:47:17 forth and like which also by the way calling a chick's boobs bubbles that's not like a compliment bubble is obviously a reference to the woman's ass yeah that's the bubble you don't bubble bubble butt bubble butt's been around forever I believe bubble butt was coined in 1923 by a jazz musician who was surrealism
Starting point is 00:47:41 who was shortly put to death right afterwards you called it a what to the gallows so now it's like hey let's Anna Pacquin comes over gives her a makeover because like for some reason she's got to go to the dance not a dance
Starting point is 00:47:59 it's a party of Tulay Hills House. It's a party in Dule Hills House party. Oh yeah. That mansion it's huge. You get lost in it. You will get lost in it and there's going to be seeds in it that don't make a whole lot of sense and just take the film nowhere. It's shot in 15 different locations. You won't even know where you
Starting point is 00:48:15 are. So she gives her contacts, tweezers her eyebrows and gives her a fucking haircut. Give me a... I don't trust anybody I don't trust anybody coming around my house. me a haircut. Oh, we've never met? Yeah, okay, cut my hair. No, thank you. Cut my hair, 14-year-old girl. Thank you very much. I'm sure he's a great job. This is all during a scene where the, uh, whatever, the silos, is that his name? Zach Silo? Silo. Siler. Siler. Not unlike heroes.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Man, I would love it if there was a scene where Freddie Prince Jr. and Paul Walker got in an argument. And then Freddie Prince Jr. used his brain power to cut the top of Paul Walker's head off and then he fucking ate his brain. Except he went Where is it? Where? It would pop like a fucking balloon. But Lidai, that's a digression.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Don't worry about Paul Walker. He's fine. Do not worry about Paul Walker. I'm fine. Guys, do not worry about Paul Walker. I'm fine. FYI, do not worry about Paul Walker. What? I'm fine. So this is during another scene.
Starting point is 00:49:22 This is another scene where the Silers have taken over Rachel Lee Cook's house. So she's upstairs cutting her hair and Zach or Fraybren's downstairs just hanging out of the living room watching whatever he wants on the
Starting point is 00:49:37 bubble tube. After she's asked, every time he comes in contact with her, she asks him to leave a few times and he just doesn't do it. No, he won't go. He stands his ground. And slowly slowly in every scene, every subsequent scene, we see him
Starting point is 00:49:53 kind of getting in more and more easily. Yeah. So, like, at one point, he's just walking down into the basement. We don't know how he's gotten inside, and she's like, you're not wanted here. No means no, Freddie. And he's like, yes, I am. You need the scene, by the way. And this is, again, you know, totally underdeveloped side of things.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And you think about some of the father figures in the John Hughes movies, specifically pretty in pink. But, like, you need the scene where Kevin Pollock's like, all right, listen, scumbag. We're going to sit down and I'm going to talk for a little bit. I'm going to do my Christopher Walken impression on you. We're going to settle things right now. You know what I mean? Like you need that scene where he's like, what's your game? I know that you're the big fucking dumb jock at school.
Starting point is 00:50:34 You're the class president. My daughter is this introverted art student. There's no way your pads have crossed legitimately. She lost her mother. God bless her soul. Rest in peace. She drowned in a pool accident. She was killed by Matthew Lillard and Skeet Ulrich before the events of the movie.
Starting point is 00:50:51 no that's the that's the weird deleted side plot of the movie much like how coolio is deleted from daredevil it's the side plot and then leov shriver's the one who's in jail on those charges but he should not be absolutely not it makes sense it makes sense poor mother the mother as i understand it and Andrew was talking about it did she i believe she died in a pool accident yeah it was like a hepatitis C thing there wasn't enough chlorine in the pool she wound up you know yeah and that's how kevin pollick got so into being Dr. Poole because you needed to make him clean. I made a vow to my family into myself that no one would ever get hepatitis C in a pool
Starting point is 00:51:30 I built ever again. That's right. Dr. Poole really stepped it up after that. I never thought a movie could do with a little bit of Kevin Pollock impersonations. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:40 No, the impression could have hurt. Oh, no way. You know what? You don't think I'm intimidating? What about my friend Kevin James D. Kirk? And he just starts
Starting point is 00:51:48 doing his thing. You know? If you don't get out of, hear right now pal you're going to have to hear from my good friend alpuccino that's how you intimidate freddy prince junior just start changing your voice at him and it'll get all rattled like a dog and just run away when people when people audition for roles and they say like write down you know the impersonations that you can do yeah especially do they just cross out alpichito on everybody's yeah you know you're right they cross out alpichino
Starting point is 00:52:21 they cross out Christopher Walken. Just like, anyone who's like, yeah, you know what? I'm sure you can fucking find your way
Starting point is 00:52:27 around a Christopher Walker. Right. Shocking. You can do an Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. Thanks. I'm sure you could do Jay Moore's Christopher Walkin.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Congratulations. That's funny though that we're talking about this because just yesterday we were watching an old SNL sketch at work and it's Bill Hader doing that Alan Alder impression.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And I said, that's how you know Bill Hader is a fucking comic genius because there's absolutely no reason to work on and develop an Alan Alda impression but he has one and it's fucking incredible right right right right
Starting point is 00:53:01 because it's like all right I'm going to add this to my arsenal because I think it's funny and nobody else is doing it exactly exactly but let's stop talking about talented actors so we're at the bar we're at the party and Jody Lino Keefe shows up with Matthew Lillard who's just like
Starting point is 00:53:17 he's being puck and like he's got a marker for autograph He has his own dance scene for no reason. He sure does. The quote-unquote arc of Matthew Lillard's character actually turns into a question mark because I don't understand it. I really don't get...
Starting point is 00:53:30 I don't know what he's doing this movie. I don't know what he's doing. I feel like this happens in another movie that I can't pinpoint right now, but maybe it's just the last time I watched this movie, but the whole like older man comes and hangs out at the high school and goes to the parties and no one's really thinking anything of it,
Starting point is 00:53:50 but he's like someone's boy. friend. Well, that's, oh, I think you're thinking of my life story, which is when I was a junior. Buckle up. This is great. When I was a junior in high school, one of the seniors, when they, we had senior projects. It was like a fru-frew kind of private school. So you had a senior project.
Starting point is 00:54:11 You could go do it. Take the last month of school off to do that. So, because you're all super seniors. Or seniors, anyways, you have senioritis. She went to Spain to do who knows what. meets Rob Schneider in a dance club and gets married to him two years later. But, flashback to while we're still in high school, I'm going to a prom party and who's sitting there in the kitchen but making copies Rob Schuyter. And where you'd think for a moment, because this is like right around Deuce Bigelow and, you know, maybe pre the animal.
Starting point is 00:54:49 That magical window we had. You'd think that that's like, oh, that's pretty cool. We're going to have, like, this celebrity hanging out with us. An S&L alum at this house party? But he's, like, 42, and she's, like, 18. And so we're, like, it's just, it's like when you're, you know, when your friend's, like, mom's boyfriend is hanging out of a party a little too late, like, she's got to sleep, but he's just having one more beer. Luke, don't you want to go to sleep with mom? No, I want to talk about the Patriots for a little longer with my friend here.
Starting point is 00:55:20 What's your name again? Is it Derek? I'm going to guess Derek. You're Derek now. That marriage ended into force. Oh, weird. At this dance, I keep calling it a dance to party. Jody Lynn O'Keefe erotically assaults Rachel Lee Cook.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I thought I just fell ass backwards into a couple of scenes from wild things. I had no idea what was going on. It's really sexual. Because she just goes up. She's like, oh, you know, you're a dumb poor girl. all isn't your dad by pool, man. I'm like, yeah, I get your character. And then she goes, oops.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And she, like, slowly, sensually pours her drink, down racially cooks red dress. And it's like, my mistake. And it's like, wait, what are we talking about? Also, by the way, I think it's worth pointing out that it's not just like, oh, let's build a fucking solo cup of beer. It's a glass of red wine. Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And I expected her to be like, now what are we going to do about this? Like, that's the next line. I guess we have to clean you up. Yeah, like, it's so fucking out of nowhere. And Rachel Lee Cook's not even weirded out by it, though. She's into it. She's like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Fuck it. But you're going to humiliate somebody, throw your drink in their face. Right. Ha-ha! You know, like, that's the way to do it. Just a note for you teens out there. If, you know, if some fucking poor girl shows up to your party, throw the drink in her face. Just right into her face.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So Matthew Liller does a dance that he believes is going to seduce Jody Lin-O-Keefe, I think is the idea. Or just, like, impress everybody at the party, and it's so awkward because he's Rob Schneidering it up at this party. Literally, no one gives a shit. And he's, like, taking his fucking shirt off and, like, dancing around and, like, grabbing his balls and all sorts of shit. And nobody cares. Like, this is now, like, if you were to be standing around at a party and puck from
Starting point is 00:57:09 the real world was, like, dancing. And you'd be like, well, this dude is a washed up hack. This is embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm embarrassed for everyone at the party. I wish this would stop And that's what you're thinking when you're watching the movies Man I wish this would stop
Starting point is 00:57:24 I just oh boy oh geez I wish this would stop And that's once again Really bad filmmaking Because it's like you're watching this movie And you're supposed to look at that scene And be like that's so like I can't wait to watch more of this Because it's so stupid and embarrassing
Starting point is 00:57:38 It's funny But it's just embarrassing for everybody Oh absolutely Totally Now the movie actually has an engine Because prom season starts And it's like, oh, my God, somebody nominated her for prom queen, and now Jodelin O'Cube's really pissed off. She gets broken up with by Matthew Lillard, by the way, because he's going off to do Real World Rule's Challenge.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Because they paid for that fucking MTV license, and they are going to use it. Well, that's the thing. Is this, we didn't see anything that said this was made by MTV. It's a Miramax film, right? It's a Miramax film. But there's no, I mean, I'm just, I don't want to shame the MTV Movie Awards here. Yeah. But if you have that much of your product in a movie and you're awarding that film.
Starting point is 00:58:23 You have to recuse yourself. You've got to take a step away. Yeah. Well, that's a weird thing, though. So, like, if, let's say there was an amazing movie that came out, right? An amazing movie. Right. But it's about the Academy Awards.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Can you nominate that movie for an Academy Award? I don't think so. It's kind of like the NBA, well, I don't know. The NBA owns the New Orleans Hornets. And that's really weird. The Pelicans, you mean? Yeah, get ready for those t-shirts. I mean, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's just, it's, it's poor sportsmanship. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, you can't just, you can't just get away with it. I don't think, yeah, no, I don't think that movie can win. You have to, you just have to understand. They can, Freddie Prince, Jr. and Rachel Lee Cook have nothing better to do. They can show up and present an award. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Fuck it. They can host the damn show. Right. But they cannot win if half of your movie is, MTV found footage. Right. And I, you know, I don't know where that line was drawn. I mean, this is before MTV got into the movie
Starting point is 00:59:25 making racket. Before Joe's apartment. Pre-Joe's apartment. No, I was going to say this movie might be post-Joe's apartment. Okay. Now that I think about it. Because that was the first MTV movie. I believe so it was. But, I mean, they don't have anything to do with this other than they license their name and everything. Like, it's Miramax.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Bob and Harvey are all over this fucking thing. Oh, yeah. Making hundreds of million. Oh, this was a hit. This was a hit. It got over $100 million dollars and was made for $10 million. Where did those $10 million go? Oh, that's where it went.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Oh, interesting. So Paul Walker's like, your chick's kind of hot. I want a fucker. And he's like, but, you know, this bet's going on that we have, I guess, which has, they don't define the terms. The whole bet seems really weird because, like, I get a movie being like, oh, because it winds up being a punchline to the movie. But when you're making a bet with somebody, you want to. wouldn't hold off on making the terms until you know what i mean like they shake hands and everything and then they're like terms to be decided later later date talk to you later uh but they they do
Starting point is 01:00:28 have a very sensual locker room oh i love this which is fantastic so they're they're playing a game of footy and fucking freddie prince junior just blows it like it's a really hilarious like the goalie comes like 15 feet away from the goal and falls over totally so there's just no one left. Open go. And he just boots this thing and it goes out of bounds. So Paul Walker's like, you know, man, it's probably
Starting point is 01:00:55 because you haven't dropped a load in a while. And he's like, excuse me? He's like, yeah, bro. When was it last time you got any, man? I'll tell you what, man. Let's make another bet right now. If I get laid before you do, you know, blah, blah, blah. If you get laid before I do, you can get the
Starting point is 01:01:11 pink slip to my car. That's a fast in the future. But yes, it's the way. many pink slips so pink slips they get in this huge fucking fight and then like dulae hill who's the only one who's still wearing a towel gets it and i gotta handed to dula hill
Starting point is 01:01:27 because listen if two friends get to fight in a locker room and i'm just there with a towel on i'm just gonna hang hang back let him play out just see what happens because they're fully dressed paul walkers already got his white cargo khakis on you know he's fully dressed pretty friends has his fucking horizontal striped sweater
Starting point is 01:01:43 on i'm gonna hang back but also but ricky get in there because you got shorts on i'm not gonna get in there I can't stop this fight. I can't do it. I can't do it. Ricky, just do it. Just do it with it. Unless I had one of those towels that there's like an elastic waistband on and it's kind of like you're just wearing a skirt.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah. But it's not that because Dule Hill is one hand trying to push off Paul Walker. And the other hand, making sure his cock doesn't fall out. He does a great job. He's a great multitasker. That's why he's so good in the White House. So basically the next thing is, obviously, it's the she's all that moment, which I've been talking about for three years. which we really did this backwards
Starting point is 01:02:20 this is our first episode to set up the rest you guys should go back to all the other episodes and just be like for reference jump ahead four years and it's you know she finds out she's a fucking bet which you're using that PG-13 you're allowed one fuck in a movie they use it well which is also but it's also poorly directed like everything else in this movie because we're look we're on the reaction shot of Freddy Prince Jr
Starting point is 01:02:46 when she says that. Right. We don't see her say fucking bad. Well, because it costs more. Yeah. It costs more to see her actually say it.
Starting point is 01:02:55 It costs a little more money. A little bit more money. Because then it's not only the hearing audiences that'll understand. It's the hearing impaired lip reading audiences that will also know she said fuck.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Right, exactly. Right now, Kieran Culkin would have no idea. That's sister cursed. His sister curse. There is a there is a great moment where he tries to, like, redeem himself in her eyes.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And it's one of the most famous, Jesus, look at me. One of the most well-remembered shitty scenes of all the shitty scenes in this movie. And that's where Kieran Culkin is rollerblading around the cafeteria asking people if they'd, like, fresh ground pepper on things. Because he's Zany, brother. That's literally no other definition needed. He's just ducking it up.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yeah. And so these two bullies, one of which is the Sherman From the American Pied film franchise, they start bullying him a little. And they're like, hey, man, we're going to make you eat this pizza with the shermanator's pubes all over it. Because it's the 90s and we love pubic hair. This is the thing, though. This dude's just tearing pubes off himself. He pulls a lot out.
Starting point is 01:04:06 There's a lot of pubs on this pizza. Yeah. That's not fun. You know, if you're going in, like, you have to go in there already being like, well, I'm going to make and fucking eat pew pizza, man. Go in the bathroom with some scissors and clip off some pubes for your pew. Andrew, you got to die for your art form. You got to feel some pain, no pain, no game.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Listen, I'm all for a great prank, but I'm not going to tug a tuft of pubs off my body. Oh, dude, totally going to make him pay for it. Here we go. Ha! This is going to be really hilarious. And so Freddie Prince Jr. steps in and just makes the two idiots eat the Pube pizza. Which doesn't make any sense because he's the same height and weight as both of these dudes. Scronier, even. Scronier. And he's like, dude, eat your pizza pubs.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And he's like, hooved. You're going to have to eat those. You're going to have to hoover it, which he says. Hoover. Hoover it. Hoover it. He says. And like, for whatever reason, because he's the undisputed king of the school. He's a God. He's a God. He's established. He's a God. I guess he is a God. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Hoover it. Eat your fucking pubes Hoover those pups. You know the only time I'm eating a Pude pizza without putting up a fight if Henry Cavill Superman shows up
Starting point is 01:05:26 and he's like, eat this Pube pizza. And I'm like, well, you know what? I got no chance, Superman. Here it comes. Eat this Pube pizza or I'll break your neck which everyone had a problem with me
Starting point is 01:05:36 because who fucking cares. When that's over with, when the Pube pizza is consumed and he's like, you know, stop fucking with this kid, you know, then we have a problem. these back and forth glances between Freddie Prince Jr.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And Rachel Lee Cook, that's like, they get like two or three a piece before the scenes over with it. It's amazing because there's nothing there. It's like I'm just looking at pictures of two different people in different locations. It's cut so poorly. It doesn't even look like they're making eye contact. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It's so bad. So she saw that moment happens. She realizes she's a fucking bet. She winds up saying, fuck you, I'm going to go to the dance with Paul Walker anyway. Because Paul Walker actually plays is off really well. He's like, I know I'm a dick, but I'm up front about it. Don't worry about it. And she's like, yeah, I guess I won't worry
Starting point is 01:06:21 about you, Paul Walker. I'll go to dance with you. He's sly. He's like, you made that bet Freddie Prince Jr. And Frey Prince Jr. is not like, with you. Right? No, that's, I was just thinking about that. I think that's like, you know, that's the moment where I guess you're supposed to think that he might be a good guy, because that's the easy
Starting point is 01:06:39 way out, right? Oh, yeah, bro. You were the other side of that bet. And then she won't have fuck all to do with either of him. But he keeps quiet about it, plays it cool for what? Because he thinks that he can earn her back by, because at this point he realizes he does have actual feelings for her. Right. But why not take Paul Walker down? Because it's a more vindictive thing to do and thus making him look even worse in her eyes. I feel is what we're dealing with.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Instead, he's going to let her get railed by Paul Walker. Don't worry about him, all right? Do not worry about Paul Walker or Paul Walker's sex life. So we're going to the prom. Freddie Prince Jr. goes with his little sister, which is creepy as fuck. He's dressed like Lestat the vampire, by the way. I don't know what. Now, wait a second.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Tom Cruise, Lestat or Stuart Townsend Lestat? Some sort of weird hodgepodge. Either way, it's a kind of leather tuxedo. A real hybrid polo v-neck version of Lestat. At least they don't go in and they, like, you know, get their picture taken together or something. You know, they just go. They do just go. And, like, Dulay Hill's like, oh, hey.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Well, he had a choice between Little Kim and Gabriel Union, so he picked Gabriel Union. Right. He had a choice between the two black girls, and he's the one black guy, and that's how they made that decision. I think Steve was more referencing the fact that he chose someone who's closer in high school age because Little Kim's about 49 years old. She's 49 years old in this film. It's unbelievable. And she has, what, three? lines. Usher Raymond
Starting point is 01:08:14 is also in the film as the as a sort of Samuel L. Jackson of do the right thing of this movie. So he's constantly keeping us informed as the narrator of who gives the shit high school. He's telling us
Starting point is 01:08:30 how hot it is outside the whole movie. Oh, Mookie, stay cool with that pizza. By the way, speaking of... Radio Rahim put down that boom box. Fat kid Put down that pizza pie Don't all be eating
Starting point is 01:08:45 Few pizzas Part of the diversity In this movie I swear to God guys The last thing we talk about Before prom Is the rap scene Oh my God
Starting point is 01:08:56 The fucking shit The titular rap of she's all that So the thing we didn't Just To not get us even further away from prom But also sort of This leads us into talking about prom And why this rap is related to prom
Starting point is 01:09:09 leading up to prom there's a campaign for prom queen everybody knows it's going to be Freddie Prince Jr. is going to be the king of the prom it's done nobody has to worry about that but the nominations for prom queen are Rachel Lee Cook and old what's her face
Starting point is 01:09:26 Jody Lee O'Keefe Mitt Romney Georgia O'Kee is he said Jody Jody Joe Joe was a little busy for she's all that and the student body is just a fucking can flutter with who's going to win.
Starting point is 01:09:41 And there's like, it's an out-and-out campaign that's going on here. There's posters and slogans and rallies and raps. And just these kids that should, I shouldn't say kids, they're each 30 years old. It's a real, what are you doing on this campus situation? And they're like, they each have like buttons of different prom queens. And they're like, this is who I think's going to win the prom queen. And they're just wrapping it up. And everyone's just, why would these gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:10:09 be inspired to see which white girl's gonna win prom queen is my question there's no way for us to convey to you their lyrical lyrical stylings without have you hear it well here we go tell it this act for a krona fool on for the high school jock named brock on my mid click on the beat box lean so we're at prom and you know now ushered raymond says to everybody now everybody do the dance I taught you and the fat boy slim song comes on fucking Rockefeller skank and Sean you find this on an IMDB that they this scene was added after the fact just to run up the time the run time they didn't they needed to get up over 90 minutes so they're like what what could
Starting point is 01:10:55 we do that would last four to seven minutes which I don't understand like making it go a little over 90 minutes because it's not much longer than 90 minutes it's 95 minutes. So it's like Woody Allen's been consistently putting out movies for like 40 years that have all been about 85 to 92 minutes. Which is totally fine. You can have
Starting point is 01:11:18 an 89 minute fucking teen movie. Who gives a shit? Well, you know why? That's because Woody Allen ever heard Fat Boy Slim. That's the problem. No, I think it's because Woody Allen has a Rockefeller skank song. Woody Allen's movies have a certain quality.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Oh, yeah. So this movie was lacking that. And so they put it a fat boy slim choreographed dance sequence. But I just look like, okay, have it be, you want to have a dance number fine, man. You know, I've seen Gene Kelly break out into a dance a thousand fucking times. And I don't
Starting point is 01:11:50 question it because it's just a dance number. But when you have Usher on the microphone going, now do the dance I taught you, you're just, you're fucking just putting the spotlight on it and it's so, it makes it so much more artificial than it's already going to feel when you're having a group of
Starting point is 01:12:06 prom kids doing a choreograph dance. You have to imagine the rehearsals that must have taken with. What is that rehearsal like? How are you getting all those people to that convention center to do this choreography? Everybody go to the gym, put on your gym clothes. Okay, this is a jazz box. Okay, everybody do the jazz bath. Jimmy? Okay, that's better. Okay, next move. By the way, not put on your gym clothes. Put on what you're going to wear because you better know how to dance in a fucking tuxedo, flipping around in prom heels.
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's a difficult thing And it's so fucking phony and bogus Like I get it This is a bad movie But this is a mistake added to a bad movie That makes it so exponentially worse Listen Lainey You can wear open-toe shoes to this
Starting point is 01:12:48 But I'm telling you You're gonna get stomped on by somebody's pumps It's a big dance It's a big number My favorite little side part of this Is when The Fat Kid meets Anna Pac-Wan And, like, this is when they, because they can't let this fat kid be gay.
Starting point is 01:13:06 They can't, we can't even pretend he's gay. So he meets out of Paco and he's like, ooh, you're dreaming. She's like, I go to a school with all boys. You'll do. All girls. All girls. And I kind of expected, like, then they cut away. And it's, I was kind of expected like some weird bisoned men moment when he comes out, like he's covered in blood.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Like, she was so nice to me. I couldn't help myself. Which would have been a great ending to this movie. Oh, God. What a fucking. twist. That's probably what Sharmelon pitch. Instead, what we have
Starting point is 01:13:39 is him figuring something out and running through the prom and playing this joke not once, not twice, probably three times where he runs up and they're like, I forget what his name is. Hey, pig farmer. Pig farmer. Those overalls that
Starting point is 01:13:55 he did not wear a prom, surprisingly. What's that pig farmer? I just I just Lainey. Prom Hybrid Polo Fidec
Starting point is 01:14:07 Horzotrape Ripped Here by the way is to humiliate this character even further His character's name is Jesse Jackson
Starting point is 01:14:16 By the way That's a funny little joke But so when we see him First at prom He's hoovering A hefty sized Bowl of feel in each shrimp He is fucking going through it
Starting point is 01:14:28 So then we cut to a bathroom scene Where Paul Walker's like I'm going to fuck this girl, it's going to be great. I already have my hotel room key. It's fucking pink. It's going to be perfect. And then they all walk out like, whatever, dude. Nobody gives a fuck. And then that we hold on the
Starting point is 01:14:42 shot of the bathroom and the stall door opens and of course the fat guy's taking a big peel in each shit. It's just so humiliating and degrading for this actor. And at that moment, for a second, you're like, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:14:59 He knows that Paul Walker has these plans. Paul Walker's in trouble. But don't worry. Paul Walker's can be okay. Do not worry about Paul. He'll be fine. Well, the funny thing is, the big surprise that he's running around to tell anyone
Starting point is 01:15:14 who will listen is that some high school kid wants to have sex with his prom day. What? And he has intentions on her. Like, of course. It's not like he started shaking a pill bottle. Exactly. And if she doesn't say yes, yeah, like, oh, I don't
Starting point is 01:15:30 care if I get a yes or no. He's just like, I got this hotel room. I'm going to take her there and hopefully we'll have sex because I'm 17 years old and that's what people do on prom. Because I'm 35 years old and I'm Paul Walker. No, but it's like that's another, I wonder if that's kind of like a producer if like a lot of people have their, you know, finger in that pot or try and figure it out because it's like, can you, can Paul Walker say like, I'm going to have sex with her no matter what? can he say that or at that point in Paul Walker's fame is somebody like no he can't say that he has to say something it has to be insinuating yeah because they vague i mean they go on we'll get there to basically say like he is forcing himself upon her yeah but they can't see that we don't see it but we learn that that happened and to me for the story's sake it would have been nice to be like have that black and white moment where we're like oh Paul walker's a horrific you know bad guy bad guy like Like, he's just a high school dick, but that doesn't make him a rapist. No, he's not any more of a dick than Freddie Prince Jr. is at the beginning of this movie.
Starting point is 01:16:36 He's probably less of a dick than Frey Prince, Jr., for the majority of this movie. So, long story short, this guy finally wheezes out the information that, you know, this is going to happen. And Joe Lino Keefe wins prom queen. Yeah, they're both king and queen. It doesn't matter. She talks shit into the microphone during her speech. And then, like, Paul, Freddie Priths Jr., is like, I don't even care, and he walks away, which is great. So he's like driving through, you know, Los Angeles or wherever they live.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Because she leaves on her own volition with Paul Walker. Yeah, they just go. He's like, you want to go? You want to head to this hotel room? And she's like, yeah, it's prom night. And so he's driving around just calling hotels being like, you know, do you have a so-and-so registered here in room 409? No, next hotel. And every time the guy says, I legally can't give you that information.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Good night. I'm sorry. Who are you? Why would I tell you this? And then so he can't find her And then we just cut back to Kevin Pollock in a bathrobe And she walks in And he's like, oh, do you have a good time at prom?
Starting point is 01:17:34 And so then he's like, well, you got a friend here And then like we pan over a little bit And Freddie Prince has come here to apologize Or whatever. We don't see the scene where he apologized to Kevin Pollock Which you know happened because Kevin Pollack Let's him in the fucking house He had to have.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And Rory or Kieran Culkin's cool with it He's like, sorry about calling you an asshole before Whatever it was. And yeah, And we find out that apparently, you know, she, you, Paul Walker was sexually aggressive. He wouldn't take a no for an answer. So she had to play blow a foghorn in his ear. And it's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:18:05 She said she's been carrying around. And this is what, I mean, I don't know. Maybe that's a thing. I'm pretty sure it's always a can of mace. Yeah. It's just kind of hilarious to have a big foghorn. Foghorn. She's like, well, I've been carrying this around.
Starting point is 01:18:17 I'm like, all right. She's like, oh, I just blew it in his ear. But it's like, if someone's like up in your business and whatnot. It's not the best prevention. If you blow a foghorn, you're blowing that foghorn into your ear too, pal. Exactly. It's a tough situation. And I mean, that's an... I guess you could also possibly mace yourself.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I'm not asking to see an almost rapes. No, I am. You know why? Because it's an active scene where something happens and people aren't just talking about stuff. Freddie Prince Jr. breaks it up, beats up Paul Walker. It's the whole fucking Crispin Glover back to the future. Hey, you get your damn hands off her. Let's make that end of the movie. That's a good enough end of this movie.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Give me something to understand. Man, give me a side to root for. Just in the last five minutes, make me root for Fray Prince Jr. And they don't. Instead, I just wishy-washily see the movie end. He, like, sort of apologizes. They kiss.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Kevin Pollock turns on some red pool lights that he's installed and gives a thumbs up from a window. And she's like, hey, oh, what were the terms of this bet? Oh, right, right. And we find out what the terms of the bed are, which are impossible, which is, Furnibus Jr. winds up going to graduation naked with a soccer ball over his dick. No problem.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Nope. No teacher's going to stop me on the way in. And then on his way up to the stage, tosses this crotch soccer ball in Rachel Lee Cook's face. And she just like kind of smells it and laughs. It's weird. It's weird. She's like, this is my soccer ball now. It's really creepy.
Starting point is 01:19:48 The one thing I like. The one thing I like is. that they set up like the cliffhanger for the sequel which is as they're panning through everybody they come across mouth-breathing paul walker and paul walker hasn't heard his name called because of the foghorn that went off in his ear right the air horn and you realize that there's a like a road trip kieran kulkin paul walker movie in the makings where kieran kalkin though younger and a total dweeb teaches Paul Walker how to live life hearing impaired. My God, I would love that
Starting point is 01:20:25 movie. I can't even tell you how much I'd love that movie. That would be a car ride where two people would have literally nothing to talk. It might as well be a silent film. Would anybody recommend she's all that? I would not.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I kind of remember it more fondly than I thought it was. It's a movie that needs to be funnier. I'm not saying like, oh, the jokes fall flat. There just aren't enough jokes. This is a romantic comedy. It's in the If you're trying to be a John Hughes movie, you know what a John Hughes movie is? Fucking funny. Consistently hilarious throughout. Whether you like it or not, it's a funny movie that has
Starting point is 01:21:03 jokes that's at least trying to be funny. And it's just not that. And yeah, it's just the cast is to see the last 60 minutes to figure out why I didn't recommend this movie. Well, and I would say, I wouldn't, I mean, I think it's just a bad, badly executed film. And that's exactly what you just said. The only reason that you should really see this movie is if you're a huge Rachel Lee Cook fan because this is your best bet.
Starting point is 01:21:26 You're not going to go see antitrust. Or maybe you are. I don't know. Maybe you'll see it here eventually. We've yet to get Ryan Phillipie on the show in any capacity so I think that might be it. I would not recommend it either. Although I still stand by I think that this movie is better than boys
Starting point is 01:21:42 and girls. Yes. Because while this movie is just is stupid throughout and it's got like some of that like chatty chat 90s dialogue it's not trying to be super like woody allen clever which is what boys and girls is and that's what's more infuriating about that movie you can watch this movie and just be like god this is fucking stupid right it's nice to know that this is a shitty movie this this is unabashedly a shitty movie so you watch it
Starting point is 01:22:12 you're not being fooled you're not get it into it at a certain point and getting disappointed you're just not really paying attention you're not paying attention you're not attention. And, you know, again, even with all the superfluous dance numbers added, it's 95 minutes, you're in and out, you're not dragging around for two hours. Yep. It's watchable. It is watchable. It's just nothing I'd recommend you watch. No, no, no, no. I absolutely not. Don't watch boys and girls either. I mean, watch neither of these movies. Watch can't hardly wait or John Hughes
Starting point is 01:22:40 movies. Yeah, that's what you're going to do. Or scream. Or most definitely watch scream. At the end of every episode, I just say, just watch scream instead. Just because I could always watch movie. So, Sean, we have you here today, not just to have a bunch of laughs at the expensive Freddie Prince Jr., but also to plug a project that we as members of the private cabin collective have been working on. And we thought, you know, it would be ridiculous if Steve and I were the ones to be plugging the thing because we're on the show, you know, every week. So why don't you, why don't you explain to the audience? What the hell you're doing in my living
Starting point is 01:23:13 room? All right. So, yeah, I mean, we've all been working together. for a long time for like a decade or whatever it is now and and doing all different sorts of comedic things and one of the things that some folks listening might know is that we did a lot of sketch videos under under the name private cabin and we moved on this past year to to work on a feature-length film that's sort of like a dark comedy kind of indie film that's really kind of autobiographical and it reflects upon where we're all at in our lives and being you know, what friendship is at pushing 30 and all these things. And so we started working on this film over the winter
Starting point is 01:23:56 and put together what turned out, I mean, to be a really strong film called We Are Strangers. And right now, we are kind of putting the finishing touches on it and starting to look to get it into film festivals. And we've gotten really encouraging words from people that we trust, that we like, lot of ways our mentors. So we know to believe and to push this film.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And we know that it's sort of funny. In some ways exactly how this show is funny, but also in very different ways as well. I mean, it has some dramatic resonance to it and also has a certain amount of sort of improvisation that we've all kind of studied with different places like the Magnet Theater and Upright Citizens
Starting point is 01:24:40 Brigade. It's certainly not we hate movies the movie. No. I think we should get that. It's not as a whack-tacky as this show. I'm now imagining a podcast where Paul Walker and Freddie Prince Jr. make fun of our movie. God bless him. I would love it. It's only fair.
Starting point is 01:24:59 It is only fair. First of all, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. But also, there's like a 30% chance that means Sarah Michelle sees our movie. If Freddy Prince Jr. is going to watch it, you know, that house might only have one Blu-ray player in it. It's the closest I'll get to going to Sarah Michelle Geller's house, so sure. Continue. So the film, obviously, the film stars a bunch of us, including Andrew and Steve here. And it's just sort of this wonderful kind of story that follows the character of Steve throughout the ends of relationship, but the creation of a few new friendships.
Starting point is 01:25:40 We're looking to sort of start to promote the film. We have an Indiegogo account that's starting up, that's raising finishing funds for color correction and audio. mastering and mixing, as well as festival submissions, because we are in Andrew's living room right now, and we certainly don't have a lot of money. And we're also just looking to get the word out there. And we know that a lot of folks, a lot of the We Hate Movies listeners are these really devoted and excited fans. So we thought, what better way to talk about the film than to this audience that already is enjoying your guy's humor already. The easiest way to find out information about it is just go to the website for the film, which is we are strangers movie.com.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And, you know, the trailer will be up there, information about the film. And, you know, we'll link to the Indigo go from there. And there's, you know, we've made a video for the Indiegogo, which will be up explaining more about the project and so on. Right. So, I mean, it's always, it's not a new thing to go to a well for your We Hate Movies episode and have to listen to those folks talking. about a side project that they're doing so here we are kind of doing that but but we're only doing it because we know that this is a film totally worth sharing so if you're interested please do check it out uh you you will be rewarded and satisfied and if you like it pass it long
Starting point is 01:27:00 i mean that's the name of the game these days and that's what we're doing uh and again yeah that's we are strangers movie.com if you want to check out more info about this fine program head on over to w hm podcast.com you can like us on facebook follow us on twitter we are at w hm podcast right into the mailbag. We all hate movies at gmail.com, which is better, boys and girls or this movie? It's a tough one. Maybe I'll put like a, I'll make like a pie chart and see what the, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:26 I like making graphs. Maybe we'll make it some visuals. So we all hate movies at gmail.com. Tell us what you think. Subscribe in iTunes. If that's how you get the show, right in review there. If you could, we would greatly appreciate it as it increases the profile of the show in the iTunes store. If you subscribe through Stitcher, if you've downloaded the Stitcher Radio
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Starting point is 01:28:16 you know topic related discussions not so much you know singular film related discussions so check that out it's more WHM content for you to enjoy and that's about it next week we return with the final summer blockbuster extravaganza episode and let's see we'll give a little tease here Steve tease tease the episode
Starting point is 01:28:34 I will say one thing Milo Ventimiglia is in this movie and isn't she's all that and he's also in the next movie we're going to do so there you go stay tuned next week until then I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Seda. Sean Winer.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Take it easy.

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