We Hate Movies - S4: A Side Order of Sleaze: School Spirit

Episode Date: September 24, 2013

On this Side Order of Sleaze, the gang talks about the ridiculous, college ghost comedy, School Spirit! Where are all the ghost laws in this movie? Why is that French guy donating so much money to the... college? And can a ghost really be crowned the King of Hog Day? School Spirit stars Tom Nolan, Larry Linville, Elizabeth Foxx and Michael Miller; directed by Alan Holleb. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to a side order of slees. My name is Andrew Jup, and I am here alongside Stephen Sadek and Eric Siska, fellas. Yeah. Wow. Bringing the enthusiasm to a side order of Slees. I don't know how. excited i should be about this movie i feel a little uncomfortable that i like it so much yeah it kind makes you feel like a real scumbag uh so before we get going for the uninitiated this is the third
Starting point is 00:00:42 week in our what does we hate movies have to offer you month uh we had a live episode last week uh and the week before that we had a what we called w hm prime now a side order of slees eric would you explain to the good people what a side order of slees is well there are movies that are a little darker and dirtier than we usually do on the main show and we kind of don't do a whole episode on them. It's a little different of a feel and, you know, we're going to
Starting point is 00:01:08 release these every once in a while on the app, which is only $2. That's correct. The app and simultaneously the Bancamp page. Right. WHMpodcast.bancamp.com. So, yeah, we go through, we talk about the movie. We, of course, crack
Starting point is 00:01:24 some jokes. We tell you what the movie's about. And then at the end, we decide the rating on what we call the sleezometer, one being a pretty tame sleazy movie and 10 probably being a snuff film. Thankfully, we have not reached 10 in the
Starting point is 00:01:40 handful of episodes we've done here. I don't know if we ever will. Well, I'm not watching a snuff movie unless it's like on accident. Well, I didn't mean an actual stuff. But you know, there's some... I got a line on this movie that Nicholas Cage is trying to sell me. I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Some dirty old Colonel made it. This whole episode being on the regular app It's kind of like that week When you're flipping through your cable package You're like, holy shit, I get stars And you're like, oh no I don't Oh wait, no I don't What are those preview weekends
Starting point is 00:02:11 Yeah, those are bullshit I fell for those all the time I'm like, Dad, we finally got showtime No, we don't Shut up, Fatso Go play football, but that's show time Exactly So the film in question
Starting point is 00:02:28 is 1984's school spirit. It's a Roger Corman produced picture. It's a college boob comedy, your classic you know, Slobs versus Snob's college comedy with a paranormal
Starting point is 00:02:44 twist. It's kind of exciting to get a comedy on side order of sleaze. I never thought we'd find one, but this one is hooey. It's it's, it's, uh, yeah. It's pretty sleazy. I've been watching a lot of chopped and this is kind of like
Starting point is 00:03:00 you know the entree round you get like okay college comedy you get one little thing you get like okay you know snobs versus slabs oh I like that and then one's like ghosts you get that last one it's like oh he's going to really have to be creative to use the ghosts oh he's really
Starting point is 00:03:15 going to have to dig into his bag of tricks to figure out how this ghost is going to come into play and then you also get dangerously close to rape scenarios shit that's the last element and a bag of Doritos I guess I would just swirl that in lightly. I probably, you don't, you, you want the flavor to be present of potential rape,
Starting point is 00:03:34 but you do not want to go full on with it. Yeah, a potential rape production, probably, and I saw it. So the picture is about a fella named Billy Batson, who's not Captain Marvel. Not Captain Marvel, yes. So we need to make that very clear. This is not a fucking Shazam movie. I jumped down. I was like, oh, my God, I did Shazam?
Starting point is 00:03:55 No. Oh, my shit, I don't want. Oh, no. I'm going to rape that girl. Probably. So it's about not Shazam. He's a college student. He really wants to get laid.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That's the whole thing of this movie is this dude just wants to have sex. And one fateful night while he's out trying to get a condom, he dies in a car accident. Right. He's getting a condom because he was about to have sex in the crusty old dean's office because this is still firmly one of those college movies. it's so i mean we were talking about this uh man we just don't get these kinds of college movies anymore like we get like i guess like van wilder was kind of a throwback but like fucking national lampoon is really just sort of ruined it's gone to softcore pornography it just went
Starting point is 00:04:45 over the deep end it just drove into the grounds you know right into the ground they couldn't even bother to pepper in any ghosts while they were at it that's the thing is like and this movie kind of succeeds in a way because it's able to find at least some of the balance between the TNA and the comedy with the you know the school comedy stuff but like I feel like the lot of those those national lampoon straight to video movies are just like they don't even they don't they don't care about the comedy I'll let you I'll let you know secret folks they don't care they're not paying the bills with yucks I'll tell you that much but that's I mean it's true though like those movies you you put on naked mile or whatever those American pie ones are that's like
Starting point is 00:05:27 kind of the same thing. It's all soft-cropornography. And it's like, yeah, like, you know, oh, my God, Lesbos. They're like, oh, my God, she's sucking his dick. And, like, those are the things that replaced the kind of, and, you know, this movie aside, because
Starting point is 00:05:41 there's really weird ghost rape stuff in this movie. But these 80s college movies, and these, like, late 70s college movies had that, like, it really was shenanigans. And there's a difference between, like, Penny Raid and, like, are you asleep? There's a big
Starting point is 00:05:57 difference and like these 21st century directed DVD boob comedies are way more on the side of are you asleep than you know running into the girls locker room or like oh no he's put a bucket of cold water in the shower yeah that's fun those are shenanigans this movie gets down this is like this guy's kind of like ted bundy you know what i mean it's it's yes it's very uncomfortable like the the methods he employs go in his corporeal form and his non-corporal for him. What he's willing to do to women. So he was trying to have sex in that office.
Starting point is 00:06:29 He goes to get the condom. He dies. He's looking at the condom while he's driving. He's like, yeah, I got the condom. And he's like staring at it. Like trying to read the directions. Like, eyes on the road, buddy. If you want to fucking use this later.
Starting point is 00:06:42 By the way, he's put out to get a condom, okay? Oh, God, she's asking for a condom. What do you know I don't have a condom? He does the biggest, like, bullshit runaround excuse to because she's like, what do you mean you don't have a condom? And he's like, well, why would I bring a condom? Then you'd think that I was being presumptuous about what's going to go on here. This is a much more organic, magical, romantic experience.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And she's like, wrap that dick up. If I'm going to make a mistake, I'm going to make a little less of a... I want to make a C-minus mistake, not a full-on F. Yeah, totally. I mean, this is still like pre-ish, the real AIDS epidemic. But even still, it's getting in the streets now. it's break it out a bit well i also keep in mind in addition to that there's also things called babies yeah babies and crabs and herpes this guy this guy definitely must have had this guy's got
Starting point is 00:07:36 so many STDs as it is like i don't know why this chick's even with him in the first place well she she's the snobby girl like you know she wants to be you know the dean the dean's like you know second in command or whatever and his whole thing is like i'm gonna get her because I'm like, I'm going to use my wily, shitty charms to get her. Well, it's like, he's on this, like, he views college as an excuse for sexual conquest. Yeah. And I feel like, you know, he's, he looks upon the world and he's like, are there are no more lands to conquer? Oh, wait, there's that nerdy chick that's kind of pretty.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Let me try to get in on that. And, you know, he costs him his life. It costs him dearly. Can we just say that this guy's 38 years old And this movie was filmed Yes, when this movie was filmed The actor was indeed 38 years old And most of everyone else is too
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah, he's not 21 years old He's not But you know There are people that can pull that off Like you cast older But they still look I mean this guy has like Joan Rivers Crow's feet He is really clearly
Starting point is 00:08:46 A middle aged man playing this like 20 year old horn dog and uh yeah today he's in the year 2013 he's actually considered a senior citizen the actor is he's 65 years old he retired to become a high school principal i believe yeah yeah he was run out of the business the business hey it's that kid from school spirit get out of this casting office perfect although he did have a small role in batman begins oh really it's like a valet oh yes when bruce wayne goes to the hotel and he's acting like a dickhead with like the two babes and they like go swimming in the fountain or whatever that's the only scene of the valet so he's got to be in there somewhere i assume he's
Starting point is 00:09:27 in there to look it up the only actual actor in this movie is larry linville r i p played major burns on mash pretty funny guy you know the the major burns character was kind of like a stick in the mud not surprisingly he's playing the stick in the mud crusty old college president in this movie here's a question nudity can't be in scripts so i think you When you get this script, it's like, oh, I'm just the dean in Animal House, or I'm just the Dean in Revenge of the Nerds. I could do that. And then it's just like, well, why is that lady naked?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Why is that lady? Oh, fuck. They must write something. I mean, they might not talk about, I don't know. They must say, like, and then a nude girl. Well, I would wager, you know, all the scenes that Larry Linville's in. I mean, there's not really boobs going around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So maybe if you're your Larry Linvilles or your Dean Wormer, I can't remember that actor's name. But, like, if you're one of those dudes, maybe you're just, this guy who's like, you know what, man, I'm only going to read the part that my agent highlights for me. I don't care what this moves. Oh, why? He's a fucking ghost. That's great. I don't care. Do I have to be a ghost? I'll be a ghost. I don't care. That's how you probably get into these situations. Like, you know, the agents are just like, Larry, listen, you know, it's a college comedy. It's going to be the next porkies. I think like all of these people are sold on it's going to be the next porkies. It's going to be the next animal house or whatever. And it's not. It's
Starting point is 00:10:47 school spirit you can't tell because they're a dime a dozen they all look the same until you watch the movie so he croaks and then the way this system works is a ghost you know comes to escorts you to the afterlife right and this is his uncle pete uncle pinky okay okay it's a big difference now is that name what is that name from that can't be on his birth certificate It's probably because when I snuck into your bedroom, there's only one finger I needed. Yep, that's it. That's the reason. Whatever, it's totally feasible that this old man is a child molester.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Don't look at me like that. Well, I mean, like he says to Billy, like, don't you remember me? I'm your uncle. And then I, you know, I assume it's like, I used to always be at your house until your mom told me not to come around anymore. Yeah, exactly. That's, you know, don't you remember me? No, I've burned you out of my brain. Remember, I was excommunicated from the family.
Starting point is 00:11:49 What? And then the Catholic Church, but that's for another day. I've made some bad life choices. And afterlife choices. Yeah, so he's like his ghost liaison. You know, he's like, listen, we got to get you to the afterlife. And he's like, but Uncle Pinky, you like fucking. That's what I'm trying to do is fuck this chick.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And he's like, well, we got some time. Yeah, there's like a little bit of a lab. I guess that you're allowed to just kind of hang out and do stuff There's like a line in front of the pearly gates Like you're not gonna get in there for a day or two anyway So you can he can manifest into human form When he wants to he can go invisible
Starting point is 00:12:28 And he can go translucent But I guess translucent is kind of the same thing Is invisible It's just to let us know that they're actually there At acting Yeah the ghost politics Like the ghost physics In this movie are very bizarre
Starting point is 00:12:42 But apparently all he has to do is like waggle his hand on top of his head and he turns invisible. But the whole thing that makes no sense and it's like why are you even putting a paranormal element in this movie is that he can become corporeal. He's holding drinks. He's sunbathing. He's trying to bang these chicks. And not only that, it's like 89% of the movie is just him being a chuggelag house guy.
Starting point is 00:13:08 You know what I mean? Like he has some fun. He's like, oh my God, I'm a ghost. This is going to be a lot of fun, right? movie and they're like yeah movie and like it just drops and it turns he's just a dude they totally throw out the whole ghost thing i think they were like writing this movie and they're like well wait a second there's no possible way he can score if he's a ghost what we've really written ourselves into a corner here oh wait what if he flaps his hand above his head then he can
Starting point is 00:13:34 turn into a person for some reason that melvin is why word processors have backspace button What's funny, though, is it's kind of the same physics as that shitty RIPD movie. In that movie, the ghost cops, like the RIPD, are able to become visible to humans, but they just look like different people. Like Jeff Bridges is like a hot chick or something like that, if I remember correctly. I mean, it's really stupid. You remember correctly. Yeah. Oh, I remember correctly.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But it's that same kind of thing is like, we have ghosts in our movie, but we can't be bothered to. have them actually be ghosts so we're going to invent some dumb rule that makes them people so they can just function like people question for the group yes better person kevin bacon and hollow man or this guy oh this guy kevin bacon's like raping people outright and he's trying to murder people this guy now it seems like he's going to commit all these crimes against these women but he i guess he doesn't i guess he just masturbates in the shower watching them yeah he ghost masturbates absolutely he only goes after initially, like the woman who's already given him the go-ahead to have sex. But this dude is like, listen, this chick gave me the go-ahead. I happen to die in a car
Starting point is 00:14:52 accident. That doesn't invalidate this go-ahead. That does invalidate the go-ahead. That's the end of it. That ticket expires right then and there, man. No, no, no, no. Why does it, though? So he dies in a car accident. But in this ghost world, he's able to come back and be a like full-bodied human and she can touch him and feel him. Why does he have to come come clean about being dead. Who cares? All right. Other situation. You get the go-ahead from somebody. Or somebody, not even you, Andrew. I'm not going to put you on the spot.
Starting point is 00:15:20 John A. gets the go-ahead from a lady. Yes. Then all of a sudden she gets a phone call and a family member dies. And she's like, this is ending. I got to go to the funeral. You can't just show up at the funeral and be like, hey, the go-ahead's still going, right? I'm still rock hard. That's completely different.
Starting point is 00:15:35 One, apparently throughout this entire movie, they don't know that he's dead. they only find out like they only get word from the hospital like 10 minutes before the movie's over with and i don't even think that happens i think it's like he comes clean like by the way remember that car accident i totally died this is just like he comes back like hey baby i got that rubber and she's like no it's morning now i have class and the rest of the movie until he falls in love with this other woman is just him like pursuing this chick she is you know not hip to the situation so therefore she doesn't have any sense of loss like as if she's traveling to a funeral
Starting point is 00:16:12 I see what you're saying I think if we had an official the game is still on I think all go-aheads expire right then and there what does it matter that he's dead who cares? It doesn't matter anything it's a bad movie
Starting point is 00:16:25 here's the thing the go-ahead is a very limited window and the next day sure you're allowed to attempt that but you should you be you should be anticipating resistance You're going to go ahead every time. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You have to work up to the new go ahead. But that's what I'm saying. That's what he does. But she keeps pursuing. And she's still in play, sure. And flirting with her and whatnot. He doesn't. Because listen, you made the comparison to Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Guess what Kevin Bacon does in that movie. Get over here. That's what happens in that movie. Oh my God, Scorpion. Mortal Kombat. Yeah, he throws a harpoon rope at somebody. No, here's the thing. Who would you rather be?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Billy Batson or Halloman. I'd rather be scorpion. No, because scorpion's like a fire skull. Oh, you prefer sub-zero? Yeah. I prefer the cold weather to the hot weather. They're all ghosts. Hollow man?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Or this, or this ghost that's trying to get some? The ghost is the best of all worlds because you're a human being. You have all the ghost powers, and whenever you want, you know, you just do the thing. Just flip it on and up. Well, here's the difference. Hollow Man's smart. This guy's dumb as a brick. Yeah, oh, do I have to be this clown?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Absolutely not. I don't know that you shoot me in the head right now. Well, I feel like wasn't that also part of the hollow man story, which is also part of the Invisible Man's story, is the idea that, like, being invisible drove him mad with this, like, you know, I thought science drove him mad, mad with the desire for sex because he spent his life with test tubes. But he's still a scientist that looks like Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yep, so he's never getting laid. Man, how do you... Speaking of skull faces. I was going to say, speaking to RIPD, how do you not advertise that Kevin Bacon's the bad guy in that movie? It's the same thing with that first class. Oh, the X-Men movie. Yeah, no fucking hide nor hair, Kevin Bacon of those previews. And he's like the best part of, well, not the best part, but he's good in X-Men first class.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And he might be the best part of RIPD. I don't know. He's most definitely the best part of RIPD. Second best part of RIPD, the voice Jeff Bridges uses because it's fucking ridiculous. So this movie, another thing that's going on here is the campus celebrations that we have. And this is, you know, again, kind of another standard thing. It's like, well, it's sort of like spring fling, homecoming, whatever. In this movie, it's just Hog Day.
Starting point is 00:18:49 The Hog Day celebrations that we have. Because you've got to be a fucking pig the entire time. You got to be a pig if you go to this school. You just jerk off wherever you want to. I guess that's what it is. Welcome to fucking Everisley, where everyone does. jerks off once a year. Is that the name of the college?
Starting point is 00:19:08 I just made that up. It sounds pretty prestigious. I think the college is actually called school. And that's it. Welcome to school university. Oh, Dad. Did you print the script without change the name back to the placeholder? Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:19:28 They just said it. Dude, did you also gave, you didn't change that character's name from Shazam? you left that shit this movie's gonna die on the table oh did you take out all those pages where he's a ghost no you know what dude let's just see if it happens man let's just submit it let's just see if it happens
Starting point is 00:19:49 boys here's five million dollars make this movie happen oh man now we have to do it there's also a weird side plot in this movie where a some sort of French ambassador is donating a bunch of money to build like some new like business school or some shit and like what's his face larry linden larry lindville dean grimshaw dean grimshaw is really sweating it because like
Starting point is 00:20:16 you know he needs he needs this dedication grimshaw yeah he's an incompetent school oh yeah he's a blunderer if there was ever a blunderer i mean this movie you know there's no reason for us to go through it all the way it's your standard college boob comedy there's a bunch of shenanigans where the ghost is trying to get laid, but he's also, this is what's stupid about this movie, is carrying on his day-to-day college activity, such as being the, you know, president and ambassador to the campus for Hog Day. Yeah, and Hog Day is a really big celebration, you know, where again, anything can happen, such as jerking off wherever you feel like it.
Starting point is 00:20:57 That's it. That's Hog Day. That's all Hog Day is. They have, they've got like a lube slip and slide. it is i mean this is a sexed up college campus but the problem is it's you're right it's the college campus because like if you've got a party with a lube slide it's at barry's apartment not at the fucking the student center you know like you can't just start throwing loob slides out there this might have been the dining hall this world kind of exists it's kind of almost the
Starting point is 00:21:29 ghostbusters universe like this is the same do you think the woman that gives Ray stands a blowjob is this kind of a ghost? Yeah, probably, right? Because she appears over the bed in more or less corporeal form. She's not as translucent as some of the specters in this film. But she is flying
Starting point is 00:21:47 over the bed and has like wispy rags for clothes or whatever. But, you know, she blows him. That's all there. She died with a den acroid fetish. These hornedog ghosts. I think, now, this might be more of a blame on outer space thing, but I think
Starting point is 00:22:02 Incubis? Incubuses? Yep, Incubi. Yeah, they're like sex murder ghosts, right? They're like rape ghosts. They sex you up and they kill you. Wait, now you're thinking of a succubis. I think it's the same thing. Sucubus is women, incubus are men. Oh, really? Yep. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:22:19 How about that? Two sides of the same sexy coin. Yeah, you're right, though. I think in this movie, Billy Batson is indeed an incubus. And the ghost that sucks off Dan Aykroyd is a succubus. Can we talk about the most repugnant scene in the movie, which is... We're just talking about it. Literally capped that one off. I won't keep talking about that until the day I die.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Until the day I become a blowjob goes. Come on. You're a slimer. So my. You're looking at a trio of slimers. So many hot dogs. I'll tell you this, though. What I've always wanted to see more of,
Starting point is 00:23:02 Because that blowjab scene, what it is, is a whole deleted segment of the Ghostbusters script. Presumably, they shot this. It's not on the deleted scenes of the DVD or anything, but it's a sequence where the Ghostbusters are called to this cabin on a case. Like, that's why, I mean, it's just a random thing. Like, why are they out of New York City in this fucking cabin, getting his dick sucked? It's because they got called out there. So it's probably like, you know, Westchester, maybe somewhere on Long Island or something. And he's getting blown by this ghost.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I want to see the Ghostbusters going on a whole lot. vacation haunted weekend it's just it's a damn shame that third movie's not going to have it that's what apparently was it all was all blowjobs oh man really i i don't cross the stream i don't need anyone telling me that ghostbusters three is about to happen can we just put a cap on that i think i've ranted about this before on this show but can we please stop talking but would we even want it to happen like what happened to indiana jones i know if happened to Star Wars. Look what happened to Ghostbusters 2 everybody. That is one of, you know, Steve, our, our friendship has had a lot of highs, but the lowest low is
Starting point is 00:24:13 when you explained to me that in fact, Ghostbusters 2 is a bad movie. And I was like, you're crazy, Sadak. And then I went and watched it and I was like, that son of a bitch is right. Yeah, I mean, it's that nostalgia trip. Sometimes you get trapped up in it. But honestly, I think the opening of Ghostbusters 2 would have been a good idea for Ghostbusters 3 because it's like I feel like Ghostbusters 2 not enough time has passed for them to be reduced to doing children's birthday parties
Starting point is 00:24:40 but if they were doing a third movie like 20 years later they'd be washed up losers having to like redeem themselves I think that would have been you're absolutely right all right so the most repugnant moment of the film
Starting point is 00:24:54 sorry from 10 minutes ago the most repugnant moment So, I mean, Uncle Pinky is like ten steps behind Billy, who's just trying to, you know, Billy's chasing after this lady, and Uncle Pinky's like, oh, come on, Billy, and the pearly gates are waiting for you. But he himself, being an old horn dog, side note, my least favorite trope in anything ever is an old horn dog that women find adorable. So you hate every George Burns movie ever made? Abs of fucking lootling. and so he's he keeps getting all like sidestepped himself and there's this awkward scene it's like the ghost busters blowjop scenes why i thought of it because this woman's sleeping and this
Starting point is 00:25:39 creepy old ghost starts touching her feeling her up like he's like the conjuring he's like biting her yeah he uh he actually exposes her breasts and he starts to feel up her thigh and then oh no it's my ghost boss Yes, that's right, everybody. He's interrupted by his ghost supervisor who instructs him to go to, he's in, he's raiding like a sorority house. And he tells Uncle Pinky that he needs to get back downstairs because the house mother played by Mrs. Seinfeld, the actress who played Mrs. Seinfeld, is about to die. So this dude's got to go hang out with her till she bites it. And he's like, oh, fine. And he huffs downstairs. And then the supervisor is like, well speaking of no one's looking and then just like does up his shirt collar and walks into this sleeping woman's room hey thanks for warming her up for me it's terrifying these fucking ghosts run a ghost train on her it's disgusting now i when they're now and this might answer a lot about billy i don't know but when they are in their translucent ghost form or invisible do these women feel their advances or you know they do
Starting point is 00:26:57 she keeps like brushing him off yeah she's like no no oh it's cold close the window so wow
Starting point is 00:27:05 that's really I would wake up be like something is raping me right now I don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:27:11 I'm not sure what it is or how it is but I'm being raped by now there is something inside of me right now
Starting point is 00:27:17 and I'm trying to get up but there seems to be 85 pounds in my way it's just repugnant
Starting point is 00:27:24 and despicable. I mean, between this movie and like Ghostbusters blowjob ghost, if it wasn't for Ghost with Patrick Swayze, I'd think most ghosts were rapists. Yeah. It's a weird ghost mentality. He's a ghost monogamous that Patrick Swayze. He just wants to get back to Demi Moore and, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:43 tell her he's going to miss her. Oh, you know what also is big? Ghost murderers. Ghosts love to kill people. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, like those horror movies? Forget about it, man. Yeah, you know, those horror movies.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I mean, I don't even know what this is. I mean, like, the movie goes on and it happens. I mean, Hog Day happens. Here's the thing that we found out. Steve, your new favorite band is in this movie. The gleaming spires. They are a real band featuring a dude who later went on to be in Devo. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:28:16 It's a new wave band. They're just, and this is something that doesn't really happen in movies anymore either, although it was featured in grownups too but that movie's all made by people who loved the 80s so it makes sense but like real live bands just like playing a party like playing a college party or whatever and these dudes were a real band and they're just in this movie playing and you can go and buy records like I think that's a really interesting thing like if you're a band you know it's kind of like when the boss tones were in clueless right it's just like hey be in this movie you don't have to do anything or like really big fish and basketball it's like we'll put your face out here everyone's going to see this movie go boingo back to school absolutely like donna bringing color me bad to the peach pit how's that the 902 one oh it's done i got into the intolerable parts after luke perry leaves because they killed his wife oh yeah oh yeah that mafia hit it's really good and then he goes away and the show just kind of loses all its luster and they fill it with dead faced people
Starting point is 00:29:19 that show had no business bringing in the mafia by the way not at all supposed to be about rowdy teens just trying to get by that show had no business talking about the la riots yeah well you know everybody had something to say about the la riots steve something to say about something all right so this movie comes to an end it's the hog day celebration and this is where again the ghost physics are so all over the place in this movie so he has sex with the french girl he tells all his friends that he's dead and he's a ghost and they're like no you're kind of a liar and he's like he's been corporeal for at this point for an hour. Literally an hour. It's like you've left my Satan a week. What the hell are you talking about? He hangs up his ghost hat in the middle of the movie. It just
Starting point is 00:30:03 is a person. So he shows them is the only way you're going to believe me. Okay, I'm going to dingle my fucking hand in front of my face. And now I'm invisible and they're like kind of sad but not really because they're all idiots. Yep. And so he goes and has sex and then it's like, all right,
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's the end of that. The daughter of the French millionaire declares, like, the one stipulation for donating the money is that Hog Day has to become a school-wide holiday where they get it off. And every year there's going to be a big party celebrated at the Dean's House. And they just have a big party. And then this is where the ghost shit comes in again. You're like, oh, yeah, he's a ghost. Right. I got a question.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. Ghost sex. Uh-huh. Now, can you train? As a ghost, can you transfer sexually transmitted diseases, pregnancies? Or are this just dead sperm? Or is it like non-existent sperm? I hear shooting blanks.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I don't know what's going on inside this guy, to be quite honest with you. I don't know if he's got blood. I don't know if he's got semen. I don't know if he's got herpes. The government needs to capture one of these ghosts and cut it open. Because if they could go corporeal, so long. Let's start with Uncle Pinky. Get him off the street.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, totally. He needs to be in the containment unit, Toot Sweets. If there was ever a case for the Ghostbusters, because in those movies, except for, like, you know, when they're fighting Zool and Vigo the Carpathian, like the real bad dudes, right? Like, it's all like, oh, no, the ghost is throwing a ball down the stairs. It's like a lot of not that scary situation. They're scary pranks. Yeah, but if you've got, like, a ghost that's committing sex. crimes? Yep. The Ghostbusters have to prioritize that shit. That's a
Starting point is 00:31:53 level five. We got one. And it's really dangerous to society. So they put them in the containment unit. It's like, oh, hey there, you are here. Look all green and pudgy. I like that more pushing for the cushion. It's like all these ghosts are trying
Starting point is 00:32:09 to now get out of the containment unit because you put in this sex offender that's like trying to rape everybody. Zool walks by, it's a lesbian and he keeps walking. Goes back to smoking his ghost cigar, by the way. Least favorite fucking stereotype horny old man. And they're all the same.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Like, he's got a cigar. He's got that reporter hat. He's the checker jacket. He's probably talking about horse racing in some fashion. I can't. I got no fucking patience for it. You're right. It is terrible.
Starting point is 00:32:41 If there's ever euthanasia, forking around. Light up a bunch of horny old man and just say, you know what grandpa, you're talking. is past. How about a firing squad? I'm fine with it. Whoa. Make horny ghosts at all of them. That'll really help social security.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Well, the great thing would be all those horny old men would have if they were getting like the Kovorkian suicide machine. Like they'd all have the same clever like one last one liner. Talk about pushing off. They just die. I'll be back as an incubus. Death is about a one. window, time a door. I'll be back.
Starting point is 00:33:23 That's too poetic for dementia. Spontaneous combustion, woe is me. Incubis. I figured you'd get that. Oh, well, fuck it. So the uncle has to rush him to the pearly gate. Oh, right. We've got to go back to the
Starting point is 00:33:41 hospital because that's where you died and that's where the fucking the portal's going to be. Or whatever. By the way, we haven't talked about but he dies in a car accident. Not a scratch on him. Just not even a fucking, not a dent. Yeah, when he sits up on that table,
Starting point is 00:33:57 he's just handsome 40-year-old Billy Batson. It would be great if he was trying to get laid missing an arm. Exactly. It's like a bloodied limb. Like, it's like Beetlejuice. His face is hanging off or something. That's what I want. I would love it if he died and then his ghost looked like
Starting point is 00:34:13 when Alec Baldwin pulled his face out and he looks like Spy v. Spy. Yep. That's, see, that's a challenge. challenge. Get laid like that, Billy Batson. I dare you. I double ghost dare you. I guarantee that could happen because you just write in the script. You'd just be like, yeah, it's a really crazy Hog Day costume. Right? Right? Because there's people with pig masks and Halloween costumes. There's a legitimate blackula at Hog Day. There is a blackula at Hog Day. I will say more moral of a character, Uncle Pinky or Beetlejuice? I think Beetlejuice. I think Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice doesn't dittle anybody.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you know, yes. Yes, Beetlejuice believes in marriage. He does. He wants to marry without a writer. He believes in the sanctity of marriage. He believes, clearly in alternative marriages, because he believes in a fucking ghost demon marrying a
Starting point is 00:35:06 fucking 16-year-old girl. But also, Beetlejuice is just a guy at the end of the day who loves a solid prank. That's all Beetlejuice is. He's not, you're Right. He's not diddling anybody. He's also trying to provide a service that is good to his fellow dead.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah, he's got his job. Adjusting to the afterlife and so on. And like, oh, you want your house cleared out of the living? Like, I totally get that. You know, obviously you want your own space. You're allowed to have your own apartment, right? Yeah. Ghost rights.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Ghost rights movement that Beetlejuice led in 19, whatever. I kind of always wanted a spin off of the little ghost priest in Beatle Zeus. He was my favorite character. Oh, that little, like, alien thing? He's like, dearly beloved. And he's, like, so tiny and amazing. How many episodes of that Beetlejuice cartoon did you guys watch? 1.4. Like, really, nothing. Really? I've seen, like, probably all of it. I was obsessed with it. The more Beetlejuice, the better, man. That's a movie that, that's a cartoon that just totally forgets that ending. It's like, they're best pals. They live in the house. But fuck it
Starting point is 00:36:19 It's fine We don't send him back To the sand hell or whatever So speaking of sand hell The end of this movie So they're at the hospital The pearly gates are there And the fucking ghost supervisor
Starting point is 00:36:32 Is just like Well I'm sorry Pinky You failed me again And he's like Sorry Billy I guess it didn't work out this time I did my best See you never again
Starting point is 00:36:44 And he keeps going Like sorry I'm so sorry And I'm like, oh my God, is he like, damned? Did he just damn his own nephew? I'm like, there's a white light there. You're thinking he's ascending to heaven. And then he's like, oh, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I'm so sorry for what's about to happen to you. Like when that light is being extinguished, you're like, all right, Willie Lopez, here come the fucking black demon ghost things. Like shadow demons, you're dead, Willie. Like, here it comes. No, he is his punishment for fussing around on this plane of. existence longer than he should have after his passing is to just go back in his body and be alive again he jumps up he's alive everyone's happy and it's just like i'm so sorry billy i i didn't tell you there's no such thing as hell so the other thing by the way is this whole movie we're like
Starting point is 00:37:37 all right he's a ghost he's dead yep he's a dead person who's now a ghost the hospital has apparently been keeping this corpse on life support the entire movie because he just sits up and he's got like an oxygen mask on and he's like where am I they declare him dead they don't say oh my god you know he's brain dead or like he's in a deep coma like oh he's a fucking dead guy call it nurse yeah they call it at the car accident scene he's at the hospital he's on the table I mean he's perfectly fine but yeah he should be in the morgue at this point but he's just in this hospital bed he's He's got a gown on.
Starting point is 00:38:14 All his friends run in. They're like, yeah, way to cheat death, Billy. It'd be great, though. It's like, I'm sorry, Billy. I'm so sorry. And he goes back in his body, and he's like, all right, I totally beat death. And then he starts walking around, and he slowly starts to decay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That would be awesome. Do you think that was like the actual ending, but they just did not have the budget for it? And they're like, all right, we can't afford the effect of him crumbling to pieces. But you know what we can afford? totally fun dance party montage over these credits this dance party montage kind of makes the movie awesome
Starting point is 00:38:50 in a way it always makes a movie better if you have like at the end of a raucous comedy no matter what if you do the title cards of each character they each get their own little highlight I kind of like your movie better every time absolutely because it makes me forget
Starting point is 00:39:06 all the dog shit that I was sitting through and I'm like all right here's this gleaming spire song yeah we're rocking out to like 80s new wave and everybody's just having a blast bucket the k y slide comes back it's great it's a fun time your movie goes from an f to an f plus it's fantastic um i would totally recommend this movie um that might make me sound like uh an incubus but i'm not not yet anyway soon enough and you know it's it's it's it's kind of fun it's dumb it's short it's you know If you're looking for the whole, like, T&A comedy genre, that's what this is, do a T.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I don't think it's too sleazy besides the rapometer. But, I don't know, three, two. I mean, it's dirty. I'm not going to tell you you're rating it too low. No. You're the gold standard of. Now, Andrew, you're the real scumbag in the room. Yeah, no, I think that's totally fine rating it low, Steve.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I would say, I'd recommend it. It's a fun, goofy, porkies. You know, again, you have to know what you're in for. It's a porkies. It's a Revenge of the Nerds. A little sleazier, for sure. I would go so far as a seven on the Sleezzo meter. Nice, all right.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Insofar as this is, I don't, like, the nudity in this movie is pretty softcore. You know what I mean? It's not like, there's no, like, real actual sex scenes or anything like that. There's no sex scenes. It's straight up boobs and you get nothing below the belt. You get a dude's, you can see Billy Batson's butt a whole lot. There is a distinct lack of consent in certain scenes. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Here's the difference is it's if ever the movie says, you know what Uncle Pinky, you're a monster and you're going to hell. This gets down to a two or a one or a one on the sleeves of a meter. But the fact that this movie just turns a blind eye to his shenanigans, Billy Batson is employing all sorts of like creepy rape tactics to get his women like he just he tricks this woman into his apartment there's all sorts of creepiness going on it's got to be a seven for me okay uh i would recommend this movie again like steve said you have to know what you're getting into this is an 80s boob comedy right off the bat yes there's also some extracurricular paranormal law breaking going on and for that i'm going to split the difference in say a five because all
Starting point is 00:41:39 the Billy Bats and stuff, I mean, it's the nature of the character. He's just a horn dog idiot, and that's what he's going to do. I think there's a distinct difference between what that dude is doing and what the reprehensible Uncle Pinky Ghost is doing. Because, yeah, that guy, they call him Pinky for a reason, and there's at no point where this dude's ghost or his soul or whatever is dragged to hell. It's totally stupid 80s boob comedy. So if you like those. This is a hidden Roger Corman gem that everyone's forgotten. It was directed by a guy named
Starting point is 00:42:14 Alan Hollab. Shockingly, this was the last film he ever directed. RIPD. I don't think he's dead. He just didn't get to direct other movies like RIPD. I think he may have been in the running, though. Or school spirit two through four.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah, I didn't look up to see if this movie had any sequels, but I doubt it. I really doubt it. If anyone knows, sticking right into the mail bag, let us know. Yeah, there you go. We All Hate Movies at gmail.com. That's going to put a cap on this episode of a side order of slees. Again, this is a We Hate Movies side show that you'll be able to get more episodes of on our app and bandcamp page, whichever you are so inclined to check out.
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