We Hate Movies - S4 Ep142: Episode 142 - A Good Day to Die Hard
Episode Date: January 28, 2014In this week's episode, the gang caps off their Worst of 2013 month with a trip to Mother Russia in the laziest chapter in the Book of McClane yet, A Good Day to Die Hard! How is John McClane Sr. a te...rminator in this movie? How do you do a Die Hard movie without a memorable villain? And how does McClane not know how the CIA works? Plus: Meet John's older, more successful, Louisiana born brother, Sass McClane! A Good Day to Die Hard stars Bruce Willis, Jai Courtney, Sebastian Koch and Yuliya Snigir; directed by John Moore. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies
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Hello, I'm Andrew Jupin.
Eric Siska.
Chris Gavin.
And we hate movies.
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Hey, Eric.
Oh, I was talking to the new list.
Oh, well, hey, Chris.
Hi.
We are here talking about our final selection for the worst of 2013.
You know, as we discussed last week, there's just so many movies.
You know, we had to, yeah.
It's four movies.
I mean, this isn't the definitive worst.
There's so many bad movies that came out.
I mean, last year I thought was a really great year for movies.
I had an actual hard time putting together a top 10 and a top 25.
Yeah.
But also, at the back end of that, there was just so much.
garbage. As much good stuff as there was, there was like three times as much garbage. There's
always more garbage anyway, but it was a real like one to three ratio this year. And hey, that
makes it fun for us. Yeah, you can't recycle it all. But I die hard got in there. Yeah, I really do
have to say this one stood out. This one was the one for me that was just like, how do you fuck this
up so royally? And of course, you know, to make it official, we are talking about a good day to
hard directed by John Moore.
It was also released
in January, which is the movie Graveyard.
It's super graveyard
time, man. January
and kind of early February, and then, of
course, August, just dog shit
town. Like, if your movies get released then.
Yeah, I Frankenstein.
Oh, I just can't even wait. I can't even wait.
I am tapping my toes here.
But I was so excited that we picked this
movie because so many people online
were like, oh, you got to do a good day
to die hard, right? So I feel like today
we're making a lot of people's wishes come true so you know hope you enjoy you're welcome this yeah yeah
you're welcome so i mean we hope this is going to be the last of the diehards right we hope this
we're putting the it better be it's what it damn well better be so but what's the next one
die hard slow die hard in space well no i'm i i'm i'm a little pissed off about how with the last
one in this one it's like we're playing off of a video oh yeah yeah that that the that the
Well, I think the next one's going to be die hard on the operating table.
Yeah.
Because, you know, John McClain's getting older.
Body can't really keep up.
Yeah.
Goes in for routine surgery and then he's just done.
See, but that's...
I would love that to happen, but it won't because of what we learn in this movie, which is he is clearly some sort of...
Indestructible.
...syborg or a superhero.
But he became a cyborg later on.
Like, because in the initial...
In the first diehard, you know, he breaks a plate of glass steps on it.
He starts crying and sniveling around on the ground for like five hours.
Yeah.
And in this one, you know, in all these other ones, he's just like, I can walk through the wall.
I can throw the tank through the moon.
I mean, it gets progressively, you know, more insane as the sequels build up.
But this one, like at the start of the movie, the first action sequence, he gets in quite literally a life-ending car accident.
Like, you're not stepping away from the car accident he gets in in the beginning of this movie.
And he's driving some, like, farmer pickup truck, clearly not wearing a seatbelt.
Wholesale slaughter.
Oh, yeah.
Of people.
Like, the amount of people, like, he runs over a bunch of, I mean, we'll get there.
But there, he just runs over all these cars who have people in them, who are obviously crushed to death by the car.
John McLean would say there weren't people in those cars.
There were Russians in those cars.
man oh man just stoking the fires of hate yeah it's totally like and that's the thing right like john mclean is a product of emperor reagan's times like that's the time a cold warrior he is which is why he this kind of action star is you know rendered irrelevant in 2013 like this this kind of action star we don't have this kind of character anymore no now we have jason starr
that's like, I got to move this car
from here to there. Or something actually
good like Jason Bourne, where
actually, you know, these are good action movies
where all the fighting is
fantastic and there's like a lot of
like jet set enemy. Yeah. And this
is, I mean, to me,
this movie is more for a born type
of action star. Because
to me, he's always,
I mean, John McLean is
American. You have to keep
him in America. John McLean should
not leave the United States.
States borders. Like that's... Like if he tries, they should stop him. It's like, no, no, no, no. You're going to try to get in some wacky adventure someplace else, and we can't have that. We have to contain this loose cannon. Yeah, all your crazy shit has to stay on our soil. Otherwise, like this movie, international incident. A gator-esque, like, jaunt down to the bayou, I'm fine with it. John McLean wants to go down there. That's fine. Die swamp. Sign me up.
But it's funny. A German gets drowned in the swamp.
it is funny that we were talking about robots and how he is one because he is kind of just inverted robocop
because it's all like in it's all mechanical inside but his jaw is just fucking iron oh yeah i mean he
he is just and that's what they tried to get around in this movie too right like he is just
the dude everything bounces off him he's a tough guy he's slinging one-liners he's a cowboy in this
movie he's like telling the son how much he fucking loves him and all this
horse shit like i'm trying to make up for lost time and bad blood this that and the other
thing like give me a break dude like this is john yippy kyea motherfucker mclean and
speaking on that the delivery of that in this movie is so lazy oh and and preceded by
the things we do for our kids
Yippie Kaya
motherfucker
Oh my God
Like I can still remember the first time
I heard that line in the first movie
And I was like
Holy crap now that's a catchphrase
And when I saw this in the theaters
Which I totally did
Because I'm a diehard fan
I was like oh no
It's over
That is the
His Yippy Kaya line in this movie
Is the death rattle of that character
You know where that Yippie Kaya belongs
that needs to be said when like Bruce Willis has it has like a slumber party with his kids and
there's like 25 kids around that he doesn't know and like they drag the dad out and be like
things we do for our kids okay I'll say it everyone all right yippie cayet come on dad
say the line yeah it's so shoehorned in like it wouldn't have made the movie any worse if you
didn't say it you know it's that kind of and he doesn't even
kill the villain himself
in this movie like
that's been we hate movies for this week
well because
I mean speaking of his kids this is
clearly a passing of the torch
situation
which I mean and I mean
so it starts it's we're in Russia
and right
Jay Courtney as
Jack McLean
Jack McClain he's on one of those
is he in a sword and sandal
program he used to be
on Spartacus or something. Yeah, but I remember
Jack Reacher. Well, yeah, but you know,
guys, guys, it's coming up. You were tapping your toes about
it. He's Ian I. Frankenstein.
Oh, is he? Oh, is he really? Oh, no.
Oh, now I'm really more excited. Who's he
play, the Wolfman? I don't know. I think he
plays like Frank Dracula or
something. Do you know
Aaron Eckhart's name is Adam Dracula
now? Shut the fuck
up. Why isn't it
fucking Frankenstein? What are you talking about
Adam Dracula? Oh, I'm sorry, Adam
Frankenstein. Oh.
So it would be Frank Dracula.
Wait,
my monsters mixed up.
Adam Frankenstein.
Dylan Mummy.
Nice to meet you.
I'm Adam Frankenstein.
Oh, yeah.
Meet my friend over here,
Wully Wolfman.
Well,
I think the name might actually,
I don't know.
How do you walk into a fucking job interview with that name?
You don't.
That's why he slays demons for a living.
It lives at the top of a fucking bell tower or something.
He's Quasimotov.
So we're in Russia.
In this case, by the way, it's Budapest subbing for Moscow, which again, you know, we talk about this all the time.
But, I mean, come on.
If you can't film in Moscow and you've got to go to Budapest, like, your fucking international thrillers just as fine there.
Set it in goddamn Budapest.
What does it matter?
Moscow's over anyway.
We all know it.
Because we really want to give the kick to Putin, I guess.
I guess so.
Ugh, it's whatever.
So we're in Moscow.
And this is a pretty long cold open.
of like these two Russian guys
One's the defense ministers
Yeah one's the defense minister
The other guy's this political prisoner
Of course he's playing chess
Because he's a Russian stereotype
And that political prisoner character
Yuri
Kurum
Kurimov
Right
Kuratov I don't know
Chris did you notice the actor who is playing this?
It's the guy from Blackbook
And the lives of others
Sebastian Koch
Holy shit
That is that guy
I know. I found out, like, after, I watched this movie twice, and then I was reading up on it, and I was like, oh, my God.
What? What happened?
Man, Zwartbach, by the way, great movie. I love it.
I mean, so is the lives of others.
Speaking of a Robocop.
Yeah. Not this movie, though.
So, so we're in Russia. This dude is, like, being sentenced. And it's, it's a whole big scene to set up the MacGuffin, right?
Where is the file? Where is the file?
Oh, my God.
for the almighty file. The file
that might have like evidence
against the defense minister or something.
Something, something. Who could
possibly care? That's what
that's what the movie should be called.
And by the way, this pisses
me. So, okay, so that happens.
And it's just like a little, give me the file, give me the file.
And then it's cut with Jay
Courtney doing a very,
very shitty variation of
remember collateral when he goes to the
Japanese club. Yeah. And he shoots
the guy. It's that scene essentially.
except for condensed into like 30 seconds.
Jay Courtney goes into this club,
like he goes in the back door,
grabs a gun from the kitchen and assassinates this dude.
It's his whole plan to get him arrested.
You know,
we don't really know what's going on just yet.
We're going to come to find out he learns.
He works for the CIA.
You know,
but he assassinations this dude,
blows his head off in this club,
gets arrested.
And he's like,
oh,
get me in prison next to this other fella.
And I'll make sure whatever goes down.
And I mean, it's the worst opening to a die-hard film I've seen because die-hard with Avengers.
It opens, you know, Hot Town, Summer in the City, and Kaboom.
Oh, yeah.
We're right the fuck into it.
The first die-hard, we're getting to know the character real quick, and then, whoops, terrorists are taking over a huge tower.
And then the second die-hard, oh, my God, a layover.
A layover.
But then two planes crash into each other.
It's just one of those things where the note I wrote was just get.
the terrorist attack like get to the inciting incident and it is like 15 to 20 minutes into this
movie before anything explodes and like it's it's this courtroom you know this guy is going to
testify and whatever and there's j courtney next to him you're like oh something funny is going on
and then like here comes the armored car and i'm like all right finally like looking at my watch
cross cutting this with mclean we get one shot of him in new york city
He is, you know, out of firing range.
A buddy cop comes in.
He's like, hey, I found your boy because I guess you've been wasting my time searching for your son.
Where's my boy?
I've lost my boy.
You've been, you know, whittling down the hours down here.
And this dude's just like, oh, it's not good, John.
He's in Russia.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's not good, John.
And he's like, oh, well, I thought it would be drug dealing or something.
It's like, shut up.
Just shut up.
Or no, what's like, he's like, is he in, you?
jail or is he dead and the guy's like worse he's in russia and that's all we get of him actually
depending upon which cut of the movie you saw if you saw the theatrical cut of this movie there's a
scene where he goes to the airport and mary elizabeth winston yeah i saw that reprising her role as
lucy mclean from the last movie because who could possibly care is like oh let me go with you to
track down my brother no that's okay see you later if you have the director's cut of this movie
They very smartly cut that scene out
And extend a chase sequence
Later out of the movie
That's like the difference there
But guess what
The first movie
The family is involved in some way
Because he's rescuing his wife
Or is a estranged wife
Is a strange wife
You see there's a quick scene with the kids
When Thorneberg comes to the
Richard Thorne whatever
The second and third movie
There's like nothing
Just think she's on the phone
she's well remember the second movie she's trapped on the plane oh yeah and they're running out of gas
and she's on like the the sky phone with him at some points during the movie uh the third one
you hear i don't i don't think it was bonnie bedelia but you hear a woman's voice on a payphone
like john you ass all and to me the third one is other than the first one obviously the best
but third one is the second best to me always will i agree with yeah i'm down with that
that one. And as soon as that happens, you're done with the family. If you've made one movie
where the family doesn't matter anymore, you're kind of done with the family. So now you can
start, if you want to have like a romantic interest, I don't really give a shit. Exactly.
No, but now he's, he's so old that it's like he has to look, oh, like, where is my legacy?
Where's my sperm forwarding society? I need to track down my kids. Well, there is that really
eerie scene in the fourth one where he's stalking his fucking.
little girl. Oh yeah. He's like
going to her apartment. Just like
hanging out while she's making out with her
boyfriend. Like, ew. I'm going to make sure
this guy's right for you
and all this fucking horse shit.
Steely John McLean, who killed
fucking what? 300
people easily in his life?
Yeah. He cares about some
guys kissing his daughter. Give me a fucking
break. Well, you know, he's a
concerned father.
Protective. Yeah. He is. The world's
protector. You think, you know, how
protective he is of America.
Give America
curves. Put it under his
roof. He's going to
be protective. Yeah.
Curvy America.
So speaking to how much he loves his kids,
he loves his kids so much that he's going to travel
to Moscow to try to track down his kid
even though he has no idea what he's actually
doing there. So we get John McLean
in a taxi cab. There's
hilarious banter with a cab driver who loves
the thing Sinatra. Yeah. Don't
worry. We get to hear New York, New York.
but we're in Moscow.
Now, here's the thing about, you know,
traditional sort of diehard tropes, right?
So, like, in the world of diehard,
a character that he kind of encounters earlier on in the film
always sort of comes back to help him in some way.
Like the second one, that fat guy,
that cop who's giving him shit about parking the car,
turns out to kind of help him at the end of the movie a little.
Well, the little driver.
the whole thing I was thinking about
this whole scene was the limo driver
limo driver from the first movie
I mean I guess technically
Samuel Jackson through all of the third one
but like in this movie I was like
okay so this taxi driver is going to come back
in some way and help him out
right because that's how diehardt oh what
oh you're never going to see him again
oh okay I guess we'll just completely
forget about the way these movies are made
I mean it sets up something
those characters like are like
like, sort of comedic, and that taxi driver was set up that way as well.
Yes.
And then this movie, you just don't have any comedic character like that.
Oh, no.
After this part, which is supposed to be funny, it's not, there's not a single lap to be had.
There's Bruce Willis trying to read from an English to Russian dictionary, and he's, like, phonetically trying to read Russian words.
Yeah.
And it is hilarious.
And the guy's like, oh, you actually told me you would like to eat some hair.
And I'm like, oh.
Do you want sex?
I get you sex.
Oh, man, her in sex. This is a fun movie.
Man, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a zany miscommunication he's having with this cab driver.
So 20 minutes into this movie, we finally get to the terrorist attack.
So this, this courtroom blows sky high.
And, you know, of course, John McLean's standing right out in front of it.
He spots the boy.
And it's like, oh, hey, John, come over here.
What, what the fuck are you doing in Moscow?
I've got no idea what I'm even doing here.
I've got no business talking to you.
And, you know, he assumes, like, his son's a criminal of some kind.
And he's like, well, why don't you stop and talk to you dead for two seconds?
Meanwhile, this kid, Jay Courtney, is trying to, like, get this political prisoner out of the prison.
And, like, clearly he's trying to do something with this guy.
He's a CIA operative.
He's not stopping to talk to his father.
It's not happening.
Just punch him in the face and keep going.
You know, he's a father, so you put him in a trunk somewhere.
but like you get him out of there this you have as we find out a minute from this he is on a timeline
or chris you maybe respect your elders and maybe when your father tells you something you listen
yeah even in moscow yeah you clean the shit out of your ears you got to listen to daddy
yeah because i guess that fucking matters in a die hard movie there is an amazing scene like
there's a moment right here in this scene where j courtney's like fuck this and
he pulls a gun and points it in his face
and Bruce Wilson is like what are you going to shoot your
own fucking father and I was like please do it
I will gladly watch you
like if this was like
that last what the heck
was it Halloween
resurrection
the last one before the Rob Zombie
reboot where Jamie Lee Curtis is at the beginning
of the movie and they kill her
like Michael Myers kills her
and you're like oh
well I guess that's over with
like that's what I was
wanting in this movie. I'm like, listen, if you just
shoot him in the face right now and you
Jay Courtney take over
the diehard mantle, like, I'm fine
with it. I'm totally fine with that.
I mean, it'd be hard to redeem him after he shoots his
father in the face. I guess so. Well, you could
just make bad diehard then, like the evil
diehard. Like now you got like
John McLean Jr., which is his name
and he's, you know, looks similar
right? They shave his head down.
Yeah. And now he's going to be
thrown off a tower later or something.
You know? Yes. Like he's just the
bad guy now. Why not? He's your Hans Grubber. I'm up for that. He could chew the scenery because, you know, that the whole archetype that is John McLean would more or less be viewed as a villain today or at least be put on probation, you know? Or look, you don't want to make him a villain. Have him get hit by a bus. You know, like, oh, here comes the terrorist van. Yeah. Squash. I mean, just traffic in those countries. Oh, people drive like maniacs in Moscow. Yeah. So, yeah.
Well, I mean, this, I mean, it speaks to, I mean, Bruce Willis and I mean, the whole time he's like,
The best things in a life are free to do to the birds and peas I won't.
Like, that's just, it's so clear.
He's doing nothing but looking at his paycheck in this movie.
It's really embarrassing.
I mean, honestly, I can't think of the last time Bruce Willis tried in anything.
Moonerized Kingdom.
Yes, okay.
Very fair.
Fair assessment.
Fair Point.
That's his best movie in ages.
It is.
Maybe one of his,
I think it might be his best movie
that he's in.
I mean,
it's just like,
there was a time
when you saw Bruce Willis
brandish a fucking automatic rifle
and you were like,
well,
I'm in for some fun.
There's $9.
You just have my $9.
I never thought I would get to a point
where watching someone
fire a machine gun was boring.
Oh yeah.
But this movie makes it possible.
This movie totally makes it possible
because he's sitting there
firing at nobody terrorist.
and, like, yawning the whole time.
Yeah.
I want to talk about the villains in this movie
because this is another gigando problem with this movie.
Die Hard is known for snappy villains
and not just snappy main villains,
but, like, you know some of the terrorists
in the other movies, like all the thugs and everything.
You get the sub-tier even, yeah.
Yeah, you remember what they look like.
They either had, like, a distinctive hairstyle.
They were mini-bosses.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, in this movie, it's all just vague, generic,
blurred together.
It's like, you know,
there's nothing to shooting
like 50 guys and ski masks,
you know,
but if they have a face and a personality
and maybe add something to the story
in some way,
maybe they each have a particular thing they do.
Like one guy,
maybe he's the computer guy.
Oh, wait,
I'm talking about die hard now.
Well, no, because they're all...
You're talking about a good movie.
Yeah.
They're all witty.
Like, there's, there's, you know,
God, I mean, Jeremy Irons
it fucking diehard with a vengeance.
That's a performance of a lifetime.
He just hits every note and he knows exactly
what he's doing. The whole movie
and even, I mean, I mean, obviously
Hans Gruber is there's never going to be
a better, you know, action movie.
No, Alan Rickman. Alan Rickman knocks out of the park.
And fuck, even William Sadler
and goddamn Diehardt too is really fucking good.
He's great. He's jerking off in that movie.
Maybe. I don't know. That's my dream
for that character. Oh, no, he's jerking
Oh, and John Amos.
John Amos is the crooked...
Oh, is the general.
He's great in that movie, too.
He, John Amos is shit where he hates Dennis Franz fat guts in that movie.
It's some of the best parts of Die Hard do.
And I don't want to leave it out.
It's like, again, it's a 21st century diehard, but Timothy Oliphant and Live
Free or Die Hard is a good villain.
Pretty strong villain, yeah.
There's no, like, we have a top tier villain who's big, uh,
like quirk is eating a carrot like Roger Rabbit because that's hilarious.
One scene.
Yeah.
One single scene.
He eats a carrot.
Just totally left on the floor for every other scene.
Which movie is this?
This is this one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Sorry.
The one with the most forgettable one.
Yeah, the one with the anonymous villains.
Like the one that sticks out is the one in the black suit who's eating a bright
orange carrot.
Like that's how you know you're supposed to be like, oh, that guy's the lead villain.
Because he's munching a carrot like a weirdo.
eating a whole carrot
and I mean the female agent because
she has breasts obviously
yeah that's where the eye goes
after the carrot you see something phallic
you see the curves
it all goes together Eric
so
there's a whole big chase scene
millions of people are dead who cares
they have to get like what happens
is McLean John
Bruce Willis the elder McLean
totally gets his CIA
son burned like the whole thing
is on a timetable. And it's because
of the stopping him in the street being like,
what are you doing in Moscow? Don't point a gun
at your father. Like, Bruce Willis
screws up the timetable
and the CIA, like we cut to an episode
of Homeland and there's fucking
Saul standing with his arm crossed.
Like, we're just going to have to, we're just going to have to
break contact. This isn't going to happen.
Shut it down. We're shutting it down, everybody.
And then Tracy Letts is in the background,
rubbing his fucking sweaty hands together.
Spits in his fucking eye.
Man, he plays a pain in the air.
the whole season for that just for saw the spit in his eye just once oh god if only all i wanted
so you know the the the CIA black site wherever is like all right shut it down like the windows closed
can't do anything about it and like they go to a safe house like he's dragging the dude from
Zwartbach with him that guy shot you know and the whole time it's just Bruce Willis like
nagging him like what are you doing aren't you going to stop and tell me what we're doing where
you going? What's going? And he's just like, you know what? Do the movie of favor and don't come
with me. You know, it's like, I'd rather watch like a J. Courtney born ultimatum type movie.
We were talking a little bit about how like all the, before we recorded, I think about how all these
diehard movies are based on other properties originally. Yes. But like, this sounds like it was
written for Jim Belushi, not John McKay. What are you doing? Oh, hey, come on. You're not going
to tell me what your big operation is.
Bolsheviks?
Oh man, I'm back in Russia.
Great.
Yeah, that's interesting you bring that up.
We'll say that on the air.
This is the first diehard movie
where the draft was a totally,
like the script was drafted as a totally original
diehard concept.
The first movie is,
it was supposed to be Commando 2,
the second movie's based on a book,
the third movie's based on a previous screenplay,
and so is the fourth movie.
The fourth movie, which was hilariously titled
W.W3.com
and was about to be made into a movie
and then got shelves because of 9-11.
I'm sure it would have been
great otherware? No.
Yeah, you know, dot com and your movie title
always works. I'm looking at youfear.com.
Oh, yeah. Possible. Stay tuned.
Well, people love
dot coms. I guess.
They can be places of joy
and terror, which is what makes
I guess for appealing. And the Third World War,
apparently. Well, that's the whole thing, right?
The Third World War is going to be
fought on the net.
Yeah, I've heard about World of Warcraft.
So they get to this safe house.
I did want to, I mean, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Yeah, no, that's fine.
The problem with, and I give
the live free or die hard a pass because
it is enjoyable for the most part.
I mean, I'm not behind it,
but you know. It's not. It's better than
this. Oh, yeah. By a
yard. And I mean, and watching this
definitely makes you, you know,
appreciate a little bit of what like Len Wise
was lending there.
Yeah.
But the problem with these two movies,
and they actually,
they talk about it at the end of this movie
because he has a line.
John McLean has a line.
Well, no, Jack McLean has the line.
Jay Courtney asks him,
he's like, do you know if this happens to you
or if you get into these situations?
And I'm like, well, the good thing about the first three
was that he didn't get into the situation.
He was a victim of circumstance.
Right.
And that was what was so good about
because he's, you know,
the beleaguered stuff makes sense then.
he's like what the fuck i just want to fucking get home yeah all all i was doing was going to my
wife's christmas party all i was doing was trying to pick my wife up at the airport then a
third time this dude called me while i was hung over these two 21st century dieharts we'll call
them the diehard 2.0 right the diehard v2s v2 rock the diehard dot coms yeah it's all fucking
called action bullshit the diehard dot com's yeah it's him being like oh there's something happening
and I'm going to get involved.
I'm going to get my hands dirty.
It's like, you know what?
Thanks, but no thanks.
Like, we got it, Bruce Will.
You know what I mean?
Like, we got it, John McLean.
It's like, you know, the first two, three were like,
it's just like a man being a man and sometimes trouble finds you and you're a man.
You take care of it.
And then the other ones are like, I'm an old man.
I got to show people that I'm a big man.
I'm getting involved.
Exactly.
And the family stuff ties right into that.
like the fact that he's now with his family
in the fourth one and the fifth one.
Yeah.
And what was so great was the fact that the villains
like kind of overtook him in those movies
and that it was chaos everywhere.
This one, I mean, you just,
you know he's beaten everything.
And with the family stuff,
I mean,
it is possible to write a diehard movie.
I think it might be possible
to write a diehard movie where the family's involved
and it's not garbage.
Like maybe like he's trying to stay away
from everything like we've
established and like he's
just with his kids at some New England
sleepy town and like shit goes down
maybe a kid gets kidnapped or something
and then you know there's a call to action
right well you know it's kind of
a stereotypical trope
but it's an action movies who cares
they're on vacation
you know they go to some place
some beach resort and some
Cuban terrorist you know they go to
vacation of Miami drug lords
something something happened
Or like he gets, he's now working at the hardware store and he gets held up.
See, oh man, that's what you want in a diehard sequel.
Like, because of all the shit that happened to him in the first three movies, he's like such a wanted guy that he has to go into a form of witness protection.
Right.
And then Ed Harris shows up.
It says, Johnny, where you've been?
Totally.
And he fucking breaks a coffee urn over somebody's face.
Yeah, I'd want that.
So, so he's, Jay Courtney's burned.
they have to get to this black
site, which is run by
what's his name, Cole Houser.
Cole Houser's like in this apartment.
By the way, when I read that today,
I was like looking at IMDB, I was like,
Cole Houser. I'm like going through his credits
for a little while. I'm like, I was thinking of
Wingshouser.
I got excited for nothing.
Yeah, you got excited for nothing. You got excited
for Cole Houser. Who's
like John McLean Jr.'
Handler? Yeah, like CIA
handler or whatever. And they're trying to
orchestrate, like, getting them out of the country.
And Bruce Willis is just, like, so disrespectful of his son's profession.
He's like, oh, you're into a bunch of spy shit, spy shit.
Oh, you little CIA buddies.
It's like, dude, your son's got a great job.
Dude, we were just talking about it.
He's a Jewish grandmother.
The whole movie, he's just like, oh, you're with the CIA?
That's really impressive.
No, Donnie Mordenstein, he has his own practice, and he has a dental practice out in Long Island.
Man, there is a scene where he's talking about, like, what other people from their neighborhoods do.
It's like, take it out of vacation.
Shut the fuck up.
It's like, you know, Bruce Willis, yeah, your son didn't follow in your footsteps and become, like, some NYPD officer.
Right.
But, like, they're bigger footsteps, though, in a way, right?
He's got a great career.
Like, he's making serious money.
he's presumably protecting the world you know something something national security gets mentioned in this movie he's like murdering people in mass but the government condones it so bruce willis is like taken back by that like no you got to you just got to be a cop with zero jurisdiction anywhere you go
it's got to be wholesale slaughter every time it's got to be wholesale slaughter and i'm not saying they have jurisdiction in russia but you know the u.s government is okay with it well no
It's like, oh, what?
Your mass killings are sanctioned by the government.
Lame.
Look at my lame pussy son doing work for the government.
You think anyone ever asked,
everyone ever told me to kill anyone?
Nope.
I just killed anyone I wanted.
I picked myself up by the bootstraps and just started killing people.
Half the time, I killed people the police specifically asked me not to.
Because that's what being a man is.
I have a jar in my closet to fill with the tears of all the mothers of the people I murdered.
What do you have?
college degree fuck you i love this ear necklace dad sorry sorry it's so awesome because not only does he
bust his balls for working for the cia he then has no idea how the cia functions because
jay courtney's like well you got me burned so this whole mission's off and we just got to get out of
here and then like shit goes down colehauser gets killed so we don't even have to worry about him
being in this movie anymore you know and then they're they're on the run again you know and now he's
like john mclean junior's like a man without a country totally you know disavowed by the u.s.
government and john mclean senior is like well can't you just call your pals at langley look
what's the fucking problem what are we waiting around for and he's like you don't understand how
this works they officially don't care if i live or die that also includes you now and he's like yeah
but you know
Langley
black hats
you know
the suits
yeah can one of your
spooks help you
I have no idea
what I'm talking about
don't you
the suits
the suits I'm always
yelling that
and tell them
that they're bad
at their job
damn can't you
get them here
isn't there
a red phone
around here somewhere
to President Eisenhower
can't you just
push a red button
isn't there
Batman comes out
phone booth around the corner
yeah
it'll just go right down
Superman might be changing
in there
can go get smart
that's how
government works.
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So this movie decides to pull a ridiculously annoying thing, which is a...
Resurrecting the diehard franchise.
Yeah, that's its first magic trick.
Its second one is trying to pull, I guess, what we'll call a double MacGuffin.
Because the whole thing is like, this political prisoner has a file, right?
The dude's like, Giddiapka, where is this fucking file?
And he's like, oh, well, all right, I'll take you to the file.
But first, you have to take me to this hotel where I've left a key that gives me access to the file.
So we have to traips all through Moscow to get to this hotel so he can get the first of two McGuffins.
Pick up this friggin key and then go out on your quest.
Yeah, what am I playing missed?
Go into the library.
Take out your map.
Look at where the key is and then look, you know, where the file is.
This dude is like, you know, all right, I'll leave the country with you, but I have to get in touch with my daughter first. I'm not leaving Moscow. I'm not leaving Russia without my daughter. So they're like, all right, we'll call her. Have her meet us at this hotel where we've got to pick up this key because it's so exciting. And this is after like this super long, like 15 minute car chase where you couldn't possibly care about it. It's almost like a getaway level car chase where we're just constantly.
constantly slamming into cars cars are impossibly crashing everywhere it's goes on forever and yeah
it's just it's useless like there was you know another diehard movie would there'd be a sense
of you know like space kinetic like yeah you want some sense of through line and and it does go to
the fact that and i give len wiseman a lot of fucking credit for that fourth one because the action
moved and you got a clear sense of it and that's what he's good at but is making action scenes
good. Well, we have to
lay some blame somewhere. And Len
Wiseman, I believe, is the man who
refurbished him into a cyborg.
A cybernetic being. A learning
computer.
Because he's just walking over.
He's like, oh, there's a
F-16 falling into me. All right,
well, I'll just roll off it, whatever.
Catch. I am robot.
Yeah, that's in that movie
where I was like, okay, we're getting
a little silly here. But still,
it's, it's a, it's a,
the die hard movies,
they thrive on their silliness.
There has to be a little bit of a silliness to all of them.
But you're not fucking Superman,
dude?
No, of course not.
But like,
I forgive that more than I forgive something like this,
which has zero,
like we call it silly,
but it doesn't think it,
the movie itself doesn't think it's silly.
No,
it thinks it's being totally awesome.
Bad ass.
It's a fucking erect cock for the entire movie.
I got some movie evidence here.
Now,
you got to look at Bruce Willis's wife.
at the end of
die hard with a vengeance
and it's just covered in sweat
stained soot blood
everywhere yeah and look
at his clothes in four and five
tailored it looked like they were just
pressed yeah he's got some
like awesome diesel jeans
on like in both of these movies
he's wearing like a cool jacket
at the end of this movie like yeah
he's got a little like dirt on him
and whatnot dust a little bit of a sniffle
afterwards it's fine yeah there's a little
bit of blood. There's one part in this movie where he pulls
a shard of glass out of his leg. And then it heals
like Wolverine. If you think back to Die Hard
with a vengeance, there's the scene where him and Sam Jackson slide
down the cable to get under the boat. And there's the scene
where he, using his teeth, pulls the metal
like cable shard out of his arm to pick the lock. And he
makes a big deal about doing it and he's like
you know and it hurts him
in this movie he's like oh hey son
how you doing after we just made that huge
jump you pussy what are you bleeding or
something and he pulls the glass shard
out of his leg and it's just like
I don't even think he limps in this movie
frankly there's very little limping and honestly
that's what made diehard movies great is that
it had like the weight of the real world
around its legs like
people can die and it's presented
in a realistic way.
Hell,
they get all those
children into
a high school assembly
believably.
They could never
have pulled that off
in four and five,
I feel like,
there's nothing
that feels honest
about a minute of it.
Because they're not
banging him around.
I mean,
that's the bigger thing.
Is that in the first...
He's banging Russia around.
He walks around.
Thousands of people die.
Cars roll over.
It's all fucking loud.
Some machine guns
that go on for fucking ever
and there's this scene.
It's like,
And I know I just talked about the silliness thing, but, like, in the scene where Cole Houser gets it in the head, there's, like, a couple of, like, bad guy troops come in, and, like, Bruce Willis is killing them with a machine gun.
Yeah.
And they keep on going in front of the machine gun.
Oh, yeah.
And they don't stop like any normal bad guy would be like, oh, look, five people just died.
Maybe I shouldn't do the exact same fucking thing that they just did.
They pile into the room like N-64 golden-eye villains that you just keep shooting as they come through.
And all those other movies, probably the fourth included, no villains would do that.
No.
There would be something about it.
They'll be around the corner, add a little suspense to the scene.
How's you going to get out of this one?
Yippity-y-dap-di-da.
And also, speaking to, again, just like doing the villains wrong in these movies, he had, because there's no clear-cut villain, really,
there's no opportunity for John McLean or the other McLean
to have any contact like in the other movies
there's always a rapport with the villains every single time
over a radio on the phone what he harasses
he teases them oh but his son has that role in this one
he's just he's just yelling at his son
yeah yeah he's just nagging his kid I do think he is the villain of this movie
I'm almost because I mean John McCain Jr.
No, John McLean.
Right.
I think he's kind of the villain of this movie.
I think I just said McCain.
You did.
I was like, I don't let it go.
If he does it again, he's out.
Oh, God.
It's John McDracula next time.
But really, like, he's the one, I mean, he's got the rapport with him, and like, he hates his fucking guts for most of this movie.
If you looked at a Russian news report from the day that all this shit was going down, it would be like, uh, this just in.
An insane American terrorist is wandering the streets of Moscow, driving over all of our citizens, assaulting people, murdering people, all the shit's going on.
And then John McLean Jr. gets the orders as a CIA agent close to him that he's going to have to kill him.
Yeah. Put this guy down, dude. He's really giving us a black eye here.
Zero dark 30 time. Just fucking take him out.
You'd have to.
and just do it. And it's ridiculous. Like the amount, like the level of assholery that he reaches in this movie, it's got to be because he's not in America. Like, he conducts himself in such a piggish American way. Like there's the scene where he is trying to stop a car, like doing the whole like, I'm a police officer. I have to commandeer this vehicle in the middle of a highway in Moscow. And this dude hits him with the car. And then the dude gets out to be like, what?
the fuck are you doing in the middle of the road
and Bruce Willis is like, oh, oh, what's
that? You don't speak English? And punches
him in the face and steals his car.
Yeah, he's like, oh, you expect me to know
what you're saying there? Yeah, well, yeah,
you're in my country. You are
the one who's in a different country. You are the
foreigner. No, no.
You know what? I'm just always
American and everything around
me becomes foreign automatically.
I can't. Wherever I am.
Why are you putting him in this situation?
You skip Woods.
the fucking writer of this movie.
Yeah.
You keep him in America
so he doesn't have to deal with this bullshit.
So instead of
assaulting this random
Maskalvillian,
he could have just
like beaten up an immigrant cab driver
or something. Much better.
You know, like, perfect.
And then you'd be true to the, true
to the spirit of the series.
Like asshole roots. Yeah.
There is a stunt in this scene that I
feel I need to discuss because it
inspired me to write a line that's kind of become pretty popular on this show.
So they're in this ballroom, you know, the guy's daughter turns out to be a traitor,
kidnaps the political prisoner, her father, and then this carrot muncheon motherfucker escapes,
and there's this huge shootout.
Up comes this huge, you know, armored helicopter and starts firing into this hotel.
And these two guys jump out of this window in this sky.
I-rise hotel and plummet to the ground, stopping every so often to like, you know, they land on a painting platform.
They fall through that.
They land through like a refuse tube and slide through it.
Like slide on a marquee, like, my ass movie.
My ass movie, do you fall all this way?
And then Bruce Willis, a pushing 70-year-old man stands up like, dust myself off.
Like, okay.
Hey, how's my pussy son doing?
Oh, would you hurt yourself?
Did that fall off the huge building hurt you?
Did you cut your face?
It's right after that jump is when he pulls the glass out of his leg.
Like, it ain't no thing.
It's, like, it's so my ass movie.
Like, why John McLean in the first movie would never do something that insane?
Like, yeah, he ties a fire hose around his waist and jumps off the roof of the building or whatever.
But, like, he's tethered to something.
It's a last ditch thing that makes sense.
This is like, I'm just going to jump.
jump off of a skyscraper and live
to tell about it. And also
this movie is
full of what we'll call them little
twists. Like there's just
these little tiny twists that are
supposed to be a big fucking deal
and nobody cares. In the
third one they did this well because it was
actually part of the plot like here
oh you think it's the schools.
You think oh, he's going to blow up a bunch of schools. He's not
doing that. He's doing this thing. Right.
That's good. This thing
because of the twists, there
is no tension with the villain. I blame the twists completely on why we don't have a good villain
because, spoiler alert, it turns out that Yuri is the villain. Yeah, the political prisoner
turns out to be the actual villain. And it would have been so much better if you would just
built up. And he's a capable actor, obviously. The motherfucker worked with Berhoven. So I don't
understand why you don't just let that play out. Why do I need the other fucking defense minister
who is a nothing character? That dude who, like, yeah.
Yeah, the movie starts and you're like, oh, okay, so this defense minister might be this villain.
All right, that's fine.
He's, like, clearly harassing this political prisoner, you know, like, this is going to be the guy, like, high up in government that's actually crooked.
No, that guy's a total afterthought who gets his neck broken while getting a massage in a throwaway scene.
Like, the definition of a throwaway scene is, like, Yuri, you know, the dude from Zwartbach calls him up and he's like, hey, man, how's it going?
And he's like, oh, pretty good, just about to get a massage.
What are you up to?
Oh, nothing, just this terrorist attack.
By the way, I thought I called to let you know, uh, fuck you.
And then, like, the, the huge fat masseuse dude strangles this guy.
Borgot, got some right by the neck.
I'm just watching that scene.
I'm like, man, the timing of that phone call that he knew to call right before this
masseuse strangled him, like, pretty lucky.
I was thinking about this twist.
It's like, what were they, they were like, you know, they sent out the rough draft
and stuff, people like, hmm,
political prisoner in Russia.
We want this movie to play in Russia.
Make the political prisoner the village.
Yeah, exactly.
Pussy riot's a bad guy now.
That would be great, actually.
He has to fight a band at the end of it.
Yeah.
He has to go to a labor,
like there's a labor camp in Russia,
hard labor camp that is revolting,
and they have to call in the best in the world,
John McLean.
And he walks into this.
hard labor camp and like all these you know withered people from doing hard labor of like
their rakes and shovels and stuff and he has to just like kick him in their in their throats and
shoot everyone got to quell the dissent that's what you've got to do so there now we all agree
so you know this dude eury gets kidnapped by his daughter you know as we've already mentioned it's a
fake kidnapping but he's out of the picture like they they all get away in the helicopter and
these two morons jump off a building.
So Jay Courtney is like, all right, well, I am totally bleeding right now.
The guy got kidnapped.
I've been burned by my own government.
We should probably just get out of here.
And then Bruce Willis starts taunting his son and essentially bullies him into going on a suicide mission.
That is what the rest of this movie is.
So stupid.
I mean, you should have brought up to his son that now would be a good thing.
time to become a robot like he did.
If you're hurting so
much from a little fall off a building
and a fall through 50 glass plate
windows. Listen, I know that
you want to get these bad guys, but first
we have to get your adamantium
skeleton put in. Once
we do that, then we can go
back out and fight the bad guys
so long as you're home in time for dinner.
I mean, Sabretooth is going to have to kill your
fiance and there's going to be a whole thing here, but
like, eventually we can get...
That's just the price of doing business. I mean, really.
That's all. That's all it is, man.
Come on with a next. Let's do it.
But he's just like, he's like, oh, you're going to let the bad guys go away?
Oh, you want to go home? You want to be a mall cop in New Jersey. Yeah. Oh, you think that'll be a great love.
Yeah. By the way, that's a real pile of horseshit is he is just still on the NYPD. Don't think so. Mandatory retirement at 65. Get the fuck out of here with that. Do you notice in the, uh, the background?
When we introduce, you know, McLean at the NYPD, he's at a firing range.
Yeah.
And at first, actually, you know, you're seeing like this withered bald frame.
And I'm like, James Carville's in this movie?
It's been a captain.
It's going to be a good scene.
It turned out to be Bruce Willis.
But then I thought it was also weird that, like, Obama's portrait was framed in the background, like, really heavily.
Yeah.
It's just another American.
man.
I would just love it.
He just takes gum out of his mouth.
He just takes gum out of his mouth.
He just sticks it on the porch.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck it.
Oh, buddies will go to Russia.
Well, it's over.
Well, the thing you're going to want to remember here about being under NYPD, Mr. McLean,
is you're going to have to do a couple things my way.
See, the first thing is not putting goreem on the president's head there.
That's a big disrespectful thing there you're going to do to our president.
You might not agree with his politics, but I am your superior officer.
Carville just walks out.
God, it would be a great movie.
It would be just as amazing as any other James Carville cameo.
You respect the man that turned you into a robot.
Me and Mary went to Moscow once.
It was just a fun time.
It was just a fun time, I got to tell you.
People tell you you're not going to have a good time in Moscow.
That's just crazy horse hockey talk.
I had a bunch of beet soup.
They call it, borsh.
I just call it a good time.
James Carville would have made this movie a thousand times better.
Without a doubt.
As John McLean's brother, like, what, Sass McLean?
I'm his older brother, Sass.
He's fantastic.
Like, it's the older brother that made sergeant before him,
and now he's finally, he's like the captain, even though he...
Yeah, yeah, meet my shitty older brother from Louisiana.
sass mclean oh pleasure to meet you there jay cordney i never got to meet my nephew uh my name
is john mclean junior oh apologies you look like a fellow actually one of them sawd and sando
pictures went to college my brother said college for jagoff so this whole thing is like
uh it's the whole showdown comes in the form of a road trip to churn
Because, because it's like, it's like, hey, John McLean, you're a product of the 80s.
You were a cop in 1986.
You remember the Chernobyl meltdown?
Get it.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, okay, fine.
And then, because this is a movie coming out in 2013 and we don't teach, we don't teach world
history in this country anymore, there has to be a scene in this movie where the son is
explaining to the father what the Chernobyl instance.
and like what happened and he's just like he's like yeah yeah the meltdown happened and then
the next day they had a children's parade to show that nothing went wrong and then the day after that
50,000 people had to evacuate and you know what they never came back and like Bruce Wilson is
just sitting there like I don't remember any of that so it's a real hot spot huh all right yeah there's
totally a thing where he's like eh not going to get ball cancer am I and shut just shot
you did would it matter you already got children that hate you fucking immortal who cares yeah that's
true it's just your your your your balls would fall off but you're fucking um your you're you know
skeleton your metal skeleton would be fine the flesh covering over your cybernetic body
may melt off but you can get another one they're he does make a bullshit joke because
because bruce willis is like uh we're gonna get cancer or like whatever and and jay courtney's
like well your hair already fell out so you know I'm like oh he's bald which by the way though
I kind of think like the running theory here is that he has to have the Bruce Willis I'm a bald
guy but I don't care haircut that he has in those first three where it's like the Uber
receding hair line and the bald spot but he still has hair as opposed to these these most
recent two where he's cue balling that fourth movie he's super clean like Mr.
clean cue ball and this one there's like a little bit of like 10 o'clock shadow going on but it's
still the same premises like he doesn't leave anything up top i feel like when john mclean takes
off that up top leftover shit he becomes a completely different character yeah like those are the
two john mcclains oh wow it like activates like all the the robot stuff yeah it makes all that
shit like you shave off your your widow's peak well it's the same thing as those fucking
expendables movies where it's just like you can be old and still kick ass no you can't sit
the fuck down go home watch a movie drink your prune juice and shut the fuck up i'm done with it
like really it pisses me off because you we could have had a you could have just redone the die
hard series you know and had a funny guy who can also do action well you can't you can't remake
die hard right everyone who throw a fit no they wouldn't they
They would be fine with it.
Any time.
If you just do it, just do it.
Well, I would say the closest thing we've come to that so far,
when you think about that wave of, like, 80s action franchises,
is kind of the Terminator.
Like, we've had other Terminators, right?
Like, granted Arnold's been in all of the movies in some capacity,
technically, even that fourth one.
But, like, the third one with, like, the Terminatorics.
Oh, my God.
That's not even.
but you know that's gone on there hasn't been anyone else who's played rambo yet you know and just no one else has played john mclean yet but i don't think it would be impossible for someone to be like all right we're just going to reboot it and there's going to be another guy it has to be it can't be a dude who's like too good looking he's got to be a total blue collar like slubbish guy like i don't i can't think of casting but it's got to be someone who's in like his late 30s it can't be a super young guy like
Like, that's the thing, right?
Like, Jay Courtney isn't technically old enough to take over this diehard franchise,
even though that's what this movie is, is trying to be this torch passage.
He's not right for it, but like a Colin Farrell type.
Yeah.
A guy who has a comedic side to him, but can also do the fucking push.
I mean, the Total Recall movie is fucking horrendous.
Oh, yeah.
But that's the type of guy you want for this kind of character.
Instead of this shit where it's just all like, yeah, you're never too old.
Yes, you are.
Yeah, you are always too old for something.
You know what?
I just actually, when you guys were talking,
I thought I put a realistic pitch for the expendables.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, you have all, you say those, you know.
They fight osteoporosis.
Right.
But you say, you know, they can't do action anymore.
So you have all these aging murderers from all parts of the globe.
So you got like, Stallone becomes president.
Lundgren becomes president of wherever he's from.
You got, you got Van Dam taken Belgium.
You got gently, take a shot, you know.
And now they're like, you, now they're like global murderers, right?
And they're like forcing armies to do their fun.
Dude, oh, how about this?
It's an action movie where all the major players work for the U.N.
Yes.
And it's called Global Summit is the name of the movie.
And they just throw down, right?
And it's like we're all going to, we're all going to bully one country into, uh,
dissolving, right? So like, let's say who Jason Statham, right?
Yeah.
Is like the prime minister of England. And it's like, we're going to, we're going to bully up on
Statham. He's the villain in this movie. And then we'll get, we'll get the United Kingdom
to dissolve. All the countries of the world come in. One comes out.
It's, uh, expendables meets in the loop.
Yeah, exactly. Clearly the winner is Jet Lee in China, by the way, right? I don't think
there's much disputing that.
Some cutthroat stuff going on.
So the whole thing is they're going to Chernobyl
because at some point before the meltdown,
this dude Yuri locked this vault
that has a bunch of enriched uranium,
like weapons-grade uranium.
Man, that is laying all over the place.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Out there, that's everything's about.
Yeah.
Everywhere you look.
It's not like anybody's looked over Chernobyl.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, what's this safe?
Oh, fuck it.
there would have been tons of treasure hunters
that would have come down there by then right
looking for what was left behind
oh absolutely yeah that stuff's totally
happy people have been over
is what Chernobyl is
Josie and Mack have been there by now
no one's moved back there
like that it's still an abandoned city but people
have been in there studying it
and whatnot Matthew Broderick was there
in Godzilla's studying the worms
remember
Chernobyl worms it would
be great if there was a national treasure where
fucking Nicholas Cage had to go to
fucking Chernobyl. I have to take the
Declaration of Independence to
Chernobyl. I don't know why.
He just gets off the place
that's coughing blood
vomiting over it all
teeth are falling out. Justin Barth is
vomiting everywhere.
What is this movie?
What are these movies about again?
All right.
You know these movies where he takes the declaration
of Independence somewhere.
Chinanigans is what I filed National Treasure Under.
We got to read it at the same time with the Magna Carta at the precise moment.
While Orion is in loop.
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
Get the planets and stars involved.
Absolutely.
Because that's when Paul Revere did it.
Like, it was all in line.
Yeah, dude.
Saturn was in retrograde.
Oh, no.
That was Texas Chainslaw Massacre.
When Benjamin Franklin got syphilis, it was in retrograde.
It was late for an eclipse
Not make people know that
Yeah
So you know
The exciting conclusion of this movie
Is the two of them
Steal a car full of guns
And drive to Chernobyl
Oh yeah
Which they steal from criminals
Yeah they go to
There's like a Chechen nightclub
And they're just like jacking open the trunks
Like oh oh there's only two guns in this trunk
Oh there's two bodies in this trunk
Oh, there's a whole, like, weapons stockpile.
This is the car we want.
I mean, so you got you, you have, instead of meeting Chechen terrorists, we meet their automobiles.
Yeah, you know, no confrontation there.
That might have been a little more interesting.
Maybe John McLean's in Moscow and, you know, he's meeting his boy, getting his boy out of prison for doing petty crime.
And then the Chechens take over.
The big question, since we're in Russia, where is Ray Serbegia?
where is he just the bad guy from the saint um excuse me and in um the what the bad guy from
the saint the saint with i know i'm just joke it's not a it's not a popular movie anymore in snatch
he's the russian guy who won't die yes yeah he's in all these movies as this fucking guy this
fucking guy this russian terrorist guy yeah where is he yeah this was his time to shine like he's
guy he's the guy who's going to have all the witty quips with mclean over the radio right like
he's that guy he also kind of looks like uh the dosake's most interesting man in the world
guy but with a beard but you're right yeah that guy's been training his whole life to be a diehard
villain yeah and just it doesn't happen no fuck it uri and you don't even i mean the guy who
plays yury like we've mentioned is a great actor they don't let him do anything he's not
hammy though that's and i mean you need a little bit
you gotta twirl the mustache
in a diehard movie need some ham
needs some swiss you need the whole thing
somebody had fun oh my god
where is the oh
somebody had fun
like holy shit is that just
the greatest some william sadler naked
aerobics like that's all I need
talking about a fat lady on the phone
you could simply say there was a fat woman on it
took you a minute to get her off
uh is the samaritan
Jeremy Irons is great in the movie.
Speaking of that,
this scene, and we'll talk about the big one.
The big ones come.
Yeah, the biggest pile of horse shit.
But there are quite, along with the, you know, the driver and the banter there,
there are all of these little, like, remember the other movies that are way, way fucking better.
Because in this scene, them taking the shit out of Chernobyl, it looks exactly when they're
taking out the gold out of the reserve.
Yes, you're right.
We needed Johnny Come Marching Home to be playing there.
Yeah, you're right.
He said, you're Fort Knox.
He said, your Fort Knox.
And he got rattled when McLean pushed him.
That guy's great, that fucking psychiatrist in that movie.
Put on a dress and fuck me.
I was going to say, kill you.
Oh, I want to watch Die Hard with a vengeance.
But instead, it's a good day to die hard.
So the McLean's show up, right?
And we're already getting the uranium out.
There's this whole little army there.
And they have this horseshit scene before they go into possibly certain death.
You know, and they're just having a heart to heart.
And it ends with Bruce Willis saying, I love you, boy.
What?
John McLean just said, what?
Stop it.
Another my ass movie.
you can do that the very last scene of the movie where you're both in stretchers next to each other being taken by the paramedics yeah that's where that belongs not before we go do this action thing it takes you right out of it and i'm like all right go in there and kill everyone now i guess well if you want to have a lot if because i understand you you you want to have some a little affection with this good have it at the beginning thing john mclean and i don't know how he'd get on the plane with this thing but he's got this little
you know this little box with him
and he's carrying around the whole time
and in this scene he's like he takes
it out he owns it's like here's your
grandfather's god killer and it's a magnum
take this
we're going to go kill a bunch of people
that's what mclean would do
yeah like here is a weapon of murder
take it to murder people
because that's the family business
I mean this whole bullshit thing of like
you know getting this relationship back on track
he even talks with the bad guy
towards the front of the movie about, like, you know, dealing with kids and whatnot.
And I'm like, why is this villain, by the way?
Like, you think about it after the turn, but you're like, why did that villain have that conversation with him?
Like, just stand there.
Yeah.
You know, it's all like, oh, kids, raising kids is tough.
Oh, I know, my daughter.
I love her so much.
It's never too late to get back with your son and all this hoarse shit.
Well, until the turn, Yuri is acting like he's on, like, five volumes.
Like he's just sleepwalking
Because he's trying to play it like
Oh I'm so scared by all this action that's going on
And then he shoots the carrot eater in the head
Like you need that turn to happen
When McLean and the sun are in their presence
Like the audience has to find out
At the same time as the McLean's
That this dude is crooked
Not the way it happens
Whereas he just murders this guy
And he's like now it's my uranium
And like then the McLean's come in
And you're like
okay well eventually they're going to find him out so now I'm just twiddling my thumbs as if I'm even supposed to know the carrot eater's name I'm calling him the carrot eater like fuck man I just want to remember his name and that's your job yeah as a director and a writer I might as well uh just have him credited as the carrot eater in the script bugs bunny there yeah that's the villain is bugs bunny so it's just I mean it's
your it's your useless diehard shootout like the whole thing happens you know yury tries to get away
this you know this whole nonsense happens they make their way up to the roof and the daughter is getting
this chopper ready to go so bruce willis goes after the daughter and and and young mclean goes
after yury up on this rooftop or whatever and like this helicopter takes off and it's it's the
second time in the movie a helicopter starts firing like it's super can't
at a building. It already happened
at that hotel scene, so you're like, oh, this is original.
That's like rain in Russia, right?
It's just a helicopter firing
at someone. Yeah. Oh, it's
look, it's Wednesday. Someone's
firing at the building again.
And so this is
the biggest piece of bullshit in the movie because
McLean realizes what's about to happen to his
son and he backs, he like
ties a chain around this Jeep
and backs it out like the back
of this huge helicopter, right? It's like,
it's a helicopter that's so big there's like a loading dock on it
whatever and so like the car is about to go and that's when he has the
the things you do for your kids reverse you know so the helicopters flying all over
the place well am i wrong and say that is the is the jeep the thing with the uranium
in it um or is that on the ground still i forget i don't know if it really matters
it doesn't matter but like i don't think the movie remembers i don't remember if the thing
falls and like you just explode a bunch of uranium you're all dead anyway so who gives
it shit yeah exactly yeah i don't know if they've loaded it up so like we've got these two
battles going on right and at one point you know the the guy that we closely associate with
being the the megal megal maniacal villain of this whole thing this guy yuri who's been a villain
for 10 minutes tops total 10 minutes j courtney throws him off the roof of this building and
they have the audacity to to paris
the Hans Gruber shot.
They do.
They paraded it,
but then he falls into the blades
of the helicopter
and it's just a blood miss.
The last boy scout level fucking
shredding.
I'll give this movie one credit
and that is blood missed.
Yeah,
good blood missed.
I mean,
it's pretty,
pretty cool.
This dude.
This dude is turned into
human sushi instantly.
But how insane?
It's like,
okay,
so you work for the CIA,
you've been working so hard
to get this guy.
out of you know whatever and then you you have him he turns out to be a bad guy okay well maybe
we can use him for something he doesn't have any information anymore yeah exactly yeah
no knowledge of stuff we'd want to know he's a bad guy never mind there's also like some
stupid hurrah scene of like um john mclean and john mclean junior like beating the shit out
of someone that's just like oh you know no now we're gonna go be all america on you
when
I don't know
I do remember
something right before
he goes after Yuri
Maybe maybe they weren't like
physically beatings up someone
But they were like pep talking like
Yeah now we're gonna
Now we're gonna really
Be America
Well it's all fucking New Jersey
Pride
I'm tired of it
Quitting is they've been beaten down
For eons
I know
That they have to like rise up
Yeah
But I think
Plainsborough's really you know
I mean but that's what it is
That's also the scene where he's like, oh, I ran into so-and-so down the street the other day and his boys doing blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, that's funny. Remember that time you bailed me and him out of jail? Because blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, stop reminiscing. Stop talking about how awesome America is. It's worse than that. It's not that. I wish it was that. If it was just him saying, hey, you know, I bumped into Maddie Donahue the other day and he's doing just fine and he's fucking, he's got a dental practice or whatever. What he does do,
do is he's like, you know what, Maddie Donahue took his father out for a vacation.
He's asking his son, who he's on the way to, you know, to Chernobyl with that he wants him
take him on a vacation.
Yeah, he's, well, he, yeah, you remind me of what they're doing.
So he's comparing like, oh, this was supposed to be my vacation.
I come to Russia and now I'm going to Chernobyl.
Great.
Who goes on vacation to Chernobyl?
I guess I have to.
And I'm like, well, I'm sorry, you sad sack piece of shit.
Nobody asked you here in the first place.
You didn't have to go anywhere.
You were not welcome.
You've accrued all this vacation time.
You could have gone anywhere.
You chose to try to fucking tag along with your son in Moscow.
There's a fucking Red Wings game now.
So can we talk about when he jumps?
So the truck is dangling off the helicopter.
Oh, oh, God.
Yeah, okay.
And he jumps off of it or like is sort of thrown off of it.
and he's thrown safely away from all that crazy shit that's happening.
But then through a, first of all, his robot body turns him into a CGI cartoon.
And then he flies through the glass and it's safe as a cushy CGI.I.
So he's not hurt.
And then he rolls around.
He's just in a building now.
And it's just like, oh, that's it.
I'll just dust myself off.
It's ridiculous.
Like the helicopter, because it's being weighed down.
by the jeep is like spinning in a circle and that dude's body fell through the propeller so i'm sure
that uh you know kind of uncalibrated some things right so it's spinning in a circle and he's holding on
like by two hands and he waits till it's like the momentum's gonna swing him around and he lets go yeah
a cartoon bubble forms around him and he just it's so it's impossible like you're so just
dead. Maybe between
like the helicopter and the
I was going to say the wall, which is pretty
much true, but like the glass.
Yeah. He like, um, eats one of
those stars from, uh, Super Mario
brothers. Yeah.
Bruce Wells is just sparkling as he goes
through this window. It's like a uranium
thing, you know.
Then all of a sudden you hear that
where it's coming down. It's not, it's going to stop
soon. Yeah, it's going to stop. Get ready, Bruce.
He better go through that glass soon. It's
going to wear off. So then the kid finds him and the helicopter crashes into like the biggest
explosion in the world. Yeah. And they jump again through this whole thing. They fall four
fucking flights into a swimming pool. Oh, right. Because now the helicopters are crashing into the
building. They're in now. And he has to jump again. Come on. There's so much jumping from heights
in this movie. Oh, I mean, that's why like the other movies, everything is measured. So you can be like,
oh man they do that crazy slide down the cable in that third movie isn't that nuts there's no other super jumps in diehard three like that's the super jump you used your super jump that's it you know the first one oh remember that time he jumped off the building and was tied by the fire hose that's the super jump like that's all you get you don't get four super jumps in one movie not in not cool but also just like a creative set piece i beg of you guys a fuck
the flooding of the tunnels in the aqueduct in the third one is insane it's insane he's surfing
on a dump truck and it's crazy again it's silly and it's crazy but that's what i want i want
this to be silly and crazy and you know what the end of that sequence in that movie when the water
shoots him up the pipe you know what he does he shoots out he was alongside the highway sam
jackson's like driving by and sees it happen he goes seven feet
in the air, like a believable height
and falls back to the ground
and has a hard time getting up.
Also, you know, that was with a dump truck
which is like more of an everyday
type of thing. And ever since
we had the fourth movie, everything
has... Blackhawks. Yeah, everything is military
grade. John McLean
should not exist in the military
grade scenarios unless it's
I guess die hard too,
but it's different.
You know, that's guys with guns. All he has is his pistol.
Like it's his feet in his fucking pistol.
And that's it. God damn it.
Yeah, no, he should not be getting access to rocket launchers or whatever the hell.
He shouldn't have to blow up, you know, a military helicopter with a cop car.
Yeah.
Let me just throw this there.
Let me throw that on there.
Because I'm a robot now.
See what that happens.
Let me just stick that over there.
See if that makes it blow up.
Robot power.
You always thinking was when they first go into Chernobyl and you don't know what they're looking for.
and it's like this night vision
goggle wearing hip high tech
team going around I was like
imagine they just unearthed Dracula
like that was
it turns like that's the
like the turn this movie takes
we found Dracula's crypt
like what the fuck
good evening
I am Adam Dracula
oh hello
officer McLean
so nice to see you
that actually might be the premise
of that shitty found footage
movie, Chernobyl Diaries?
Oh, yeah.
That's my...
Adam Dracula, just living here in Chernobyl.
The rent is too kill for.
There hasn't been much blood here.
Finally, some company.
Come in.
I live in all of Chernobyl.
I am Adam Dracula.
Tired of drinking blood from children with fins.
Oh, man, he's just grown them there, too.
yeah it's bad
oh man that guy's
he's a nice guy when you meet him
Adam you know he's like
but then when you get to know
when you get to know what Adam Dracula is really
up to which is growing and harvesting
mutated children
it's a bit discomfort
for his own succulence of course
oh of course for
for his own you know life
sustaining or afterlife sustaining
abilities
so I mean that's it
they fucking blow it up and then like
junior thinks that John McLean is dead and he's like John John dad and you're like oh he did it he called him dead maybe the relationship is fixed and then it's like oh hey I'm over here do you just call me dad no all right then well barbecue yeah that's it's so stupid like I was waiting for you know the CIA to be like yeah we burned you but we've still been monitoring you or something a SWAT team comes
in and extracts them.
It's like, the movie ends with them
walking away from Chernobyl,
like this site at Chernobyl,
being like,
huh, man,
you're a McLean.
This is what we do.
Welcome to be in the McLean.
It's just what we do.
We walk 3,000 miles.
Yeah, well, I guess we'll walk till we hit something.
Let's just walk right out of this movie.
Well, actually, no,
hold on,
I got up here.
I got a helicopter in my head
and just let this.
Oh, right.
go go McLean copter here we go
that totally could have
happened yeah I'd be fine with that
that would be like the post credit scene
well the bullshit thing is like
it's like they're coming when they get when they do
touch down and here's fucking Mary Elizabeth
Winstead again
it's like they're coming back from Iraq
like it's like slow motion
the big music
and I'm like shut the fuck up
it's supposed to end with
a big bang fuck you
oh right because at the
the end of the theatrical she's back right yeah she comes back see that's the thing the director's cut
which i watch it just ends with them just walking away did the director hate her that's the thing right
like i i kind of praised this decision at the end or at the beginning of this episode but the more
i think on it it's like why would you sacrifice characterization for a longer car chase that's already
way too long yeah like okay you introduced this daughter in the last movie or reintroduced her now
the son's here you have her in
this movie like build on
it but you have it don't
ignore it you know what I mean like the whole
movie's about his family
don't cut her out of it for your director's cut
that's just sloppy director's cut
and I mean I imagine it's more like fucking
I guarantee you Mary Elizabeth Winston does not
give a shit and just wants to be in and out of it
that was a one day for her
oh yeah one day
I'm dropping you off at the airport got it
okay and now I'm picking you up okay perfect
Have a fun time, Jay.
But that's like, you know, the end of all the other movies, it's like the, the helicopter shot looking down on the scene, right?
Like the ambulances pulling up to Nakatomi, the fire trucks pulling up to the airplane on the tarmac and whatnot.
The fire trucks and everything pulling up to the wreckage of Jeremy Irons' dead helicopter corpse.
Like, we get those in those movies.
And directors cut or theatrical cut don't have that.
Like it doesn't end where the action ends.
Yeah, because how's that socialism working out for you, right?
No fire trucks, no ambulances.
Well, they're in a ghost town.
No fire trucks, no ambulances.
Which, by way, all this stuff is happening in Chernobyl.
I wouldn't light a cigarette in Chernobyl.
I don't want to do any.
I have to be there.
first of all getting me there
I mean it would have to be a military operation
also how about
opened wounds
yeah I don't want to rub that dirt in there
yeah you know what diehard 6
they both turn into aliens
you know we have a couple of Russian listeners
and I would like them to write
in you know I would like to know
what their perspective would be on this
on this shit
it is this shit
the shitty movie yeah yeah so you know we all
hate movies at gmail dot com I would love
to hear a Russian or Eastern European perspective on this movie.
I mean, or a Ukrainian?
Like, would someone on, you know, the outskirts of Chernobyl be like,
hey, man, a bunch of explosions going on back at Chernobyl.
I think we should send someone in there?
It might be happening again.
Like, or whatever.
Like, there's no authorities that show.
Right, yeah, because they kept on coming for Adam Dracula's parties.
They realized it was nothing.
Oh, that's just, it's just Adam Dracula.
He's having another fancy sex party.
Sexy blood party.
I love a man in...
I love a man in uniform.
Yeah, so it's a piece of shit.
It's a good day to die hard.
And I hope it's the last.
But you know, here's the thing.
This movie was super successful.
It was made on the cheap
because we're all just jumping in front of computer screens.
And it made like $300 million worldwide.
It tanked in this country
But, you know
That might be enough to sink it for good though
You know America has spoken
I wish that was the case these days
But it's just not
Like it's not with
But if you can make Buku bucks on the global box office
Doesn't matter
We're destined
I guarantee you
There's going to be at least one more
You know these foreigners are ruining it
international listeners stop seeing Bruce Willis movies
I do wonder what's going to be the next pun
what can they like a fucking live free or die hard
like good good day to die hard
like well I said die hard in space
so maybe it's like that's one small step for man
one giant leap for die hard
yeah he just goes to the moon for some reason
we you know one day we all got to die hard
there's got to be more
Die hard comes for us all.
We all die hard alone.
Yeah, that might be it.
That's the great one to finish it off, but he fucking dies at the end of it by like sneezing too hard and he gets a fucking embolism in his brain and dies, just drops dead.
Or it's directly after this and like the Chernobyl stuff is taken hold and he's just, you know.
Oh, we shouldn't have went to that wasteland chasing that terrorist.
It's just like 50-50.
Or an enemy government has him stringed up and is cutting off his robot limbs.
know we have to see how you work yeah what are you talking about we heard you were a robot no
i'm not and then they may yeah and they take the science behind that and make make make mcclains
for other countries then it becomes what's that bruce willis clone movie oh surrogates
surrogates which has some of the worst computer effects this side of anything that movie i'll say
surrogates i had more fun watching than this much much better oh yeah the surrogates
I think it's there's a clear-cut villain.
There's a story that's going on.
It feels like 88 minutes and not 880 minutes.
Yeah, yeah.
It's got a stupid premise, but this might even be stupid.
I really need to hammer that home, by the way.
All the other movies are much longer and feel much quicker.
Yeah.
This is 95 minute.
I can do a 95-minute movie in my sleep.
It doesn't take anything.
It's actually how you write your film reviews.
Exactly.
You sleep through the video.
and then just type a bunch of bullshit.
Oh, what's this?
Oh, 12 years of slave.
Let me put that on.
Good night, honey.
I do have a bankie at all the screenings.
No, but like, I've watched,
this is the second time I watched this.
The first time, I couldn't remember
the first 30 minutes for the life of me.
And this time, I couldn't remember
the last 30 minutes for the life of me.
Because, I mean, at least with the first part of it,
it's like just get to the terrorist attack.
Like, the movie doesn't start until,
there's a terrorist attack, you know what I mean?
And we're just slogging away
with this John McLean Jr. backstory
because we're supposed to care. And the Russian
we talked about it already, but that
Russian, the scene where he's talking to the Russian
cab driver, it goes on for a while.
It's way too long. And it's, he says
maybe two words.
All right, for any of our listeners
who did not make it out to the theater
to see a good day to die hard, is anyone going to recommend
a good day to die hard? Fuck
out of here. No.
All right, goodbye. Oh, no, I wouldn't
recommend it either. There you go. Yeah, man, I'm not going to recommend this. And I would even say, like, for someone who considers themselves either A, a Bruce Willis completeist with, which, you know, what are you doing with yourself? I mean, you've got a lot of work ahead of it. Or be a diehard completist. Like, you might even want to think about this movie as being like a non-canon situation. You know what I mean? I would almost go so far as to wager when they inevitably make a sixth diehard, which they're going.
to they might even just gloss over this existing right like there's always those sequels we
pretend don't happen like right right like highlander two into highlander three yeah anyone
just no mention of it right it's like they're not going to be like oh well remember the last
time in russia like in the other movies they do obviously the third one recalls the first one
for clear reasons and stuff like that but it's all like oh you're the motherfucker from
the Nakatomi incident.
Oh, you did the, you know, the big thing at the Dulles Airport or whatever.
The thing with the tower.
That's my favorite part of Die Hard with a vengeance.
All they say is that thing with the tower.
That's all they say and it's done with.
Yeah, and you just know what he's talking.
Like, Die Hard 6 is not going to be like, oh, yo, you're the dude from Chernobyl.
Hey, yo, I heard you're the one that made, you blew up Chernobyl.
Oh, you're the one that started World War III.
Dot com.
You look, you, who, like, who is, registrar?
like who owns ww3.com comes up john mclean
patterson new jersey it's john mclean's startup it's all like fucking uh like
doomsday preparer oh dude you took the words out of my mouth john mclean is definitely a doomsday
prepper his fucking bunker well because the thing is he knows that the expendables are rising
to power in all the countries so he's going on the ground to be in power soon so he's got
to do something and i love by the way how he was fighting with stelone over money with that third
expendables movie i don't like expendable
Two, but it is a way more entertaining and well-made movie than a good day to die.
I would agree to that.
In every aspect.
Because it has John Claude Van Dam as your villain.
Your clear-cut villain.
That alone, I would recommend Expendables 2.
There you go.
Instead of watching A Good Day to Die Hard, go back and check out Expendables 2 if you haven't.
Well, when that money thing came out, part of me was wondering, and it hasn't been.
When I was mentioning the global box office.
No, no, no, Bruce Willis, not getting out of bed in Bulgaria for under a quarter of a million dollars or something shit.
Expendables three, he's like, it's got to be a million dollars.
What's straight, how much was it?
I don't know.
It might have been more, I don't know, but it was, it was, like, ridiculous for what his character and role would have been.
Part of me, it does think that some of this is like, I don't want to work anymore, but I don't really know how to say no to this stuff.
So I'm just going to throw out these fucking crazy ass figures.
I think that's probably also part of it because he would just like, well, let's see what happens.
And he must have tossed out some insane number for this.
And he's just like, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to do anything.
But, you know, if you want to pay me to, you know, say these lines, probably.
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck it.
I'll do it.
Which is unfortunate.
It's, you know, probably my top three favorite action franchises.
And it's an embarrassment at this point.
You know what I mean?
I do know what you mean.
Well, thank you.
I just want to let you know.
You guys get me in my disgust for this franchise.
I get it.
Souring.
So this is the last episode of our worst of.
Yes.
Maybe we could briefly just mention what we think are some of the best movies of 2013.
Yes.
I know Cabman could run a blue mile with that one.
I mean, I'm a big, big, big proponent of the Wolf of Wall Street.
I think it's phenomenal.
I think it's hilarious.
I think all the...
It glamorizes,
lewd usage man yeah man man and the award for people just missing the fucking point this year goes
to those fucking people holy shit out of control what were you watching like i really i i usually get
it i usually do get what when people get complaining about this stuff yeah usually at least have
an idea of what they're talking about right this i don't know how you watch that movie and think
i mean those guys are so great well it's like the rappers that have clearly never seen the last 20
minutes of Scarface and fucking idolized
Tony Montoya, you know what I mean? Like
because
yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, it's so
glamorized when he's fucking punching his wife
in the stomach at the end of that movie.
You know, it's like showing you what
bullshit capitalism is. And it does it so straight
face and so well. And they
just, I mean, these people who don't like, I really
have no patience for them. Yeah.
One of your favorites, Eric?
One of my favorites is inside Lewin Davis, and I want to sing it even louder than usual just because of the Oscar snubs.
And I know the Oscars don't really matter in the scheme of things.
Never have, never will.
But I think it's one of the best Cohen Brothers movies, period.
And I couldn't believe it because, like, I've always loved the Cohn brothers.
I will defend even some of their lesser titles.
But this was just phenomenal, and I think people need to run out and see it.
I've, I said it, though, when I saw, I think it's their best since Lobowski easily.
For me, it's their best.
Yeah.
It's that's, that's, and it's like one of those things that could be debated, but no one who hears someone say that would be like, you're fucking crazy.
Like, that's how good that movie is.
It's, it's, it's a good movie.
Uh, one that I'm going to toss out is Thomas Winterberg's The Hunt.
Uh, it's a movie, it's a Danish movie with Mads Mickelson, NBC's.
Hannibal or Casino Royals
Leshifa.
Valhalla, who rose?
Exactly. Exactly. Thank you. The murderous
Viking. It's a movie about
he lives in this small town
and he is falsely accused of molesting
a girl and it's just about like
this town turning on
him and it is
probably one of the most
nail-biting thrillers.
In a film that's not
on the outset you look at that movie and you're like
well okay that's maybe some sort of
drama or something like that i mean this is like pounding your fingernails into your thigh like
holy shit thriller and it's i mean i mickles he gives one of the best performances of the year i mean
that whole movie is centered on his performance and he nails it every scene yeah you know and i
know like we don't normally nominate like foreign film performances for you know acting awards
like oscar you know acting awards whatever but like if there was ever a time to break
that mold you know it's it's him in that movie it's fantastic and uh i think one that i can throw
it that we'll all communally agree on is her yeah yeah i uh i like i like it i wasn't as blown
away by it as i was hoping to be but i think it's still pretty good although uh stephen
saidek who isn't here today uh i believe dislikes her he does dislike her so i just want to
put that out there yeah it's it's it's three out of four w hm is approved of her different
So that's it. That's the worst of 2013. Like we said, man, you know, this movie was this year, this movie year was not in short supply of crap. Yeah. Uh-huh. That's just some of the crap. Uh, you know, we already did grownups too in summer blockbuster. So you guys got a hefty dose of 2013. Yeah. Now we could put it away. Yeah. Now it now it's just, it's done with it. 2014 begins and look forward to ride a lot.
long come next January.
What's right along, Chris?
It's Ice Cube and Kevin Hart being assholes.
Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Get ready.
That's a good day to die hard from 2013, directed by John Moore.
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