We Hate Movies - S4: On-Screen: The Gang Breaks Bad

Episode Date: September 13, 2013

On this edition of On-Screen, the gang chats about Breaking Bad - plot points, crazy theories and the great Bob Odenkirk - before the airing of the final three episodes. Spoilers abound. Obviously. This episode discusses everything up to the events in "To'hajiilee." Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

So there's like three episodes left, and I feel like probably by next week I'm going to have to have like 9-1 dialed and then like when my heart starts to seize just hit that last one. There's only three left. There's only three left. I think Breaking Bad's going to break that. penultimate somebody dies in the penultimate episode

and then we deal with it for the last episode thing because I think somebody's going down in this next

episode at least one major character is going down is the last episode. Welcome to WHM

on the screen a we hit movie's side show where we talk about kind of just anything we're watching so this week

we're talking about Breaking Bad the final eight episodes I mean I guess anything breaking bad

in general that comes up now obviously folks if you're not caught up. Just turn it off till you are. You know, spoiler alert. There, I said it. Obviously, spoiler alert. And there's probably some people that don't know what WHM on screen is. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, you know, it's just a sort of an off topic show where we're just, you know, usually after a main show, we're just doing a little bonus thing. Yeah, just a little like WHM after hours. You know, I mean, we're still telling some jokes, but it's more like just talking about stuff we're watching. New stuff. You know, Steve and I talked about Bat Fleck a couple weeks ago. So, you know, more, more up-to-date stuff. This is how we prove to you that we're keeping current. And also that we do watch all the trendy TV shows that everybody else watches.

The best. Yeah. So, Breaking Bad, you know, while, where we're recording right now, like I said, there's three left. The fourth one just aired two hajali or whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah. I don't even, I don't know what that means. That's one of them highfalutin titles. I don't know. care too much about i'll look it up on wikipedia one of these days uh but basically so the last thing we have seen up to this point is of course the big shootout between the neo nazis and uh the the dea fellas uh with walt's cowering in the car and jesse kind of trying to slink out that side door probably the greatest cliffhanger this show's ever done it's an intense cliffhanger it's sort of like like i know everyone was like oh my god like what's going to happen i was like god

Damn it! Like, why would you turn it off in the middle of the show? Yeah, it's just, it's right there. And it's not a, yeah, it's not like a, it's not a cliffhanger where like it goes black or something. It's just, we're right in the middle of the action and we just don't know what's going to happen. Which is, go ahead. So someone might actually be killed in the cold open or something of the next episode, which is crazy to me. I jokingly said to Steve today, uh, the, the script for the next week's episode probably starts with,

fade in. A scorpion is munching the last piece of flesh off of Officer Steve Gomez's skull. Oh, he's dead meat Gomez. Yes, definitely. She's just not making it. There's no way. I mean, he's not going to be the moral center at the end. He's not

going to be Horatio just fucking thinking about things, about what he just witnessed. At this point, he's body count material. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see. I almost said hopefully, but I mean, everybody's like, Oh, man, they're going to come back and Hank's dead or Jesse's dead.

It's like, I don't think, like, I don't think anyone is safe, but I don't think that those two characters would have an off-screen demise. Oh, no, not an off-screen. I mean, I think it's going to happen. I mean, the weird thing is they've already, speaking of cliffhangers, and they've done this. This show does a lot of cliffhangers, and that's why it's so propulsive and so awesome. Yeah. But two episodes ago, when Jesse's in Walt's house, trying to burn it down, you're like, oh, fuck, this is really coming to a head. head and they did a really clever way

to get around that. I don't know if you could do that two episodes you don't mean, two cliffhangers in a row? I know, I mean, but I'm trying to think, because the whole thing is, you know, just to remind everybody what Steve's referencing. So it's Jesse's pouring the gas all over the house and it's like, well, all right, we know that he

you know, chain smoke cigarettes. He definitely has some fire on him. How is he not going to burn this house down? And, you know, the answer is because Hank comes in and stops him. So with that in mind, though, it's like, What could stop this shootout? Like, is Lydia Rodart Quail rolling in with a fucking grenade launcher?

I mean, I don't think so. Keep in mind, this show is set in New Mexico. I seem to remember a Roswell, New Mexico. So I'm thinking maybe a UFO might just suck up the Nazis. I don't know. I'll tell you what. Vince Gilligan worked on the best seasons of the X-Files. There it is.

These guys. Actually, maybe a bunch of bees are going to get them. Or maybe Bigfoot. Bigfoot run stampede Or no, all right, fair. Make a truth, Eric. It's Bigfoot and a bunch of bees. Bigfoot riding a bunch of bees.

Bigfoot and his army of bees. With a beard of bees. It could happen. The one prediction that I'm making, and I mean, it's pointless because I know I'm going to be wrong because everybody's going to be wrong. But I would predict that,

not predict, to see because I think it would bring up some more interesting story stuff for these last three episodes Walt somehow winds up being directly responsible for saving Hank's life which I think is a really interesting like yes he's this huge

scumbag but now like Hank owes him his life so what would that do to Hank's decision about what he's trying to do to Walt and everything well I do kind of find interesting like I mean I read a lot about Breaking Bad like anybody else because what else you're going to do at work but it's everyone that I read

and listen to on podcast or whatever it's always like oh my god Walter White most evil person ever most evil person ever and yes that's mostly true but him at the end of this episode is not an evil man you don't even he's trying to stop this carnage he doesn't want either of these guys

to die because he doesn't want Hank to die because he's family like he'll ruin the fuck out of Hank's career but actually taking his life not so much and he doesn't want it to go down this way so that's not I mean he's evil he's monstrous all those things we all know what he's done I don't think he's the most evil person who's ever lived

I yeah I don't think so either I think the character's always been kind of on that line where he does terrible things but he still has a sort of a moral center at least to himself it reminds me now I'm thinking about it is a little bit like Gaius Baltar from Battlestar Galatica he seems like a total scumb when you look at like the certain actions but they kind of all piece together to make sense sure

they're trying to save themselves over everything else and their family and their money but at the at the end of the day walter white is not eagerly hoping to put hits out on people you know like like other people might be like real life bad guys yeah real life bad guys like gaias baltar But no, I think you're right. I think, you know, if the situation were not reversed, but if you replaced Walt with Gus, Gus is definitely going to let, you know, Uncle Jack and the neo-Nazi gang blow the shit out of Hank

because fuck it. If, you know, if, also saying that if, you know, Hank in this alternate situation was somehow related to Gus, because, I mean, that's the thing that sort of keeps it together. If he was, if it was just Steve Gomez, fire when ready. Poor fucking Steve Gomez.

Wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah, my wife was telling me that apparently he's like a local Albuquerque stand-up comedian. That's nice. Stephen Michael Casada. Casada, yeah. I mean, he's good on the show.

I mean, he's good. He's a likable presence, and he's just going to die. He's going to be blown to smithereens. And, I mean, I think Hank is pretty close. I mean, that last scene with Marie is really, but then again, this show subversed expectations, right? But, like, if you're going to kill Hank, you want to have that phone call with Marie right before to twist that knife.

Yeah, but, yeah, if they go through with it, it's kind of a cliche. Yeah, right. I mean, that's what... It's sort of a hint that they're not going to do it, maybe. I think that's the case. I mean, that's why I was reading Donna Bowman on A.V. Club and she was saying, oh, we all know what happens when a character says they love their loved one into a telephone on a TV show. And I was like, yeah, but this is breaking back. So if anything possibly sealed Hank's safety, it's the fact that they use a crazy, you know, cliched trope like that.

You know, like a homeboy on Downton Abbey can't remember the fellow's name. The actor's name is Dan Stevens. You know, he says, you know, how happy he is that he's got this kid. He loves his wife. He's going to go to the hospital, visit him both. His life's in, you know, great state right now. They save Downton and then he fucking gets killed in a car accident. Like, that's your cliched soap opera ending, but

Downton Abbey is no breaking bad. You know what I mean? And, like, I feel that, yeah, because that happened, Hank, maybe bought himself some time. Maybe he didn't guarantee that he's going to live. It'd be great if he survives this. And then he's like, oh, my God, that was a close wood, Walt. All right, let me drive you downtown.

Oh, no, a car crash. That would be fantastic, actually. I mean, there's this, there's a bunch of weird. I mean, like, I don't know. I do think that the, I wouldn't necessarily call it a cliche if Hank dies in the next one. It's a really effective scene between him and his wife. And he, I mean, he, Dean Norris, by the way, is doing a great job this season. Oh, yeah.

He's, I mean, it'll probably go to Aaron Paul again, maybe. Like, he's been kind of, it's really unfortunate in this show. I mean, Aaron Paul is fantastic and it does an amazing job. It deserves all of his Emmys and accolades. Yeah. But there's so many good supporting actors on this show. It really is. And Dean Norris has been kind of hanging back a little bit.

And, you know, it's like the 96 Bulls. Now he's Steve Kerr, and he's in there. And he's taking the three-point shots. And everybody loves him. He's taking the three-point shots. But, you know, he's got six championships to live up to. My big question about Hank Schrader as a character is, when is he going to be trapped under this dome? Because that's the few.

Isn't that the sequel show? Yeah, that is how it goes. I mean, that's how I think this might be subverted. Uncle Jack might hit a button that he traps a bit of a dome. I'll tell you, I saw. Hey, Todd, you ever see mouse trap that game? Oh, they got down comes the net. Giant Dome.

I saw some sort of coming attraction for that program. And I haven't watched a second of it. But man, oh man, he's like the bad guy. was revealed all of a sudden and he doesn't want the dome to come up and I don't have an interest in that show at all but when I saw him saying that I was like

what possible reason could he have for not wanting the dome to come up I think there might also be aliens involved it's a Stephen King thing so those left field aliens are always a possibility but that dome is definitely hit in Maine that's for sure that's there's no way it's anywhere in any other

state. Another thing, we're talking about the award nominations and whatnot. The thing I was also going to say about Dean Norris and the Hank Schrader character, along with the Marie character, especially in that season, what is it, season three

when Hank's laid up after the assassination attempt. Ordering his gemstones off of eBay. That's every time we went to Hank in that season, I was like, fucking come on. I don't care. I could not. I could not. care less about these two people and now you know in these final hours of the show i'm like god damn

he's the most badass dude she's fucking bone chilling with it with when she says in that hilarious chee cheese as mexican restaurant why don't you just kill yourself like it's your jaw drops your your jaw drops it's ice cold but she's so right yeah that's the most practical solution kill yourself well i'm i'm predicting that i mean like they set up that guy for jesse to get in the van to disappear start a new life yeah i mean obviously i'm thinking yeah walter white will do that hence hence the new look hence the new license plates from new hampshire right so you're right and i think so the question you know that i think we can kind of maybe steer ourselves in an answer towards without having seen these last three episodes yet is

this machine guns for those neo-Nazis, right? It's looking like it's going to be some sort of revenge hit, maybe. It could be a revenge hit. It's a year later, though. There's a lot of yip-yap it on the internet, which, I mean, it makes sense that, like, maybe Jesse being the second best cook gets kidnapped, and Walt has to save him.

You know what I mean? Like one of those kind of, I see. Like, kidnapped to cook, kind of a situation. That's interesting. The Nazis I like, I really like Todd. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. As characters, you mean. Oh, okay.

No, I like their beliefs. I like most of their literature. Pretty smart guys. They're a little, aside from Todd, they're a little, and breaking bad, I love it to death and blah, blah, blah. It's your stories a little bit grand theft auto sometimes. And these guys definitely are, they're the guys that you go to and they're like, we got one more job for you, Walt. You know what I mean? Like, I like Uncle Jack.

There's not much. there. Todd's amazing. And Todd, I think I want the evil Jesse versus Jesse to happen in some way, shape, or form. Yeah, the neo-Nazis are a little thin. I mean, to me, they kind of, aside from Todd, just sort of globed together as one character. You've got the other fellow there with the mustache who played Herc on Friday Night Lights, who I think is a pretty solid actor. But yeah, they're just kind of like, whatever. I mean, I understand that they make up a pretty dangerous unit, which is awesome. Yeah, and it's kind of cool because they're playing with fire.

And I guess, again, like, you know what I mean? You want to talk about real evil? These fuckers don't give a shit. They're there to, they're there to make money and murder people. And that's what's great. You know what I mean? Like they are the, you know, it's kind of interesting. We were kind of talking about this as well as like how gleeful that Uncle Jack character is that Walt wants him to kill Jesse.

You know what I mean? He's not, he's not, you know, he's just like, oh, one cook. You know, sure, sure, one cook. You know, this guy wants to put the screws to Walt because he wants. wants to make some money and he'll he'll fucking imprison that son of a bitch you know what i mean like oh yeah absolutely uh you know it's it says a lot about these you know i think one thing that was interesting from the first part of this season five and i'm not calling this season six a lot of people have been doing season six it's season five they just went on a ridiculous break but uh you

know the the massive hit like yeah Heisenberg walt arranged this whole thing but still it's uncle jack's contacts, and Uncle Jack had to be the ones, you know, the dude to set up and put in play all of this shit. So, like, when that happened, I was like, oh, he's not just some dumb racist. Like, this dude is kind of also a criminal mastermind, and Walt doesn't really know what he's getting himself into. Also, he could be, from Uncle Jack's perspective, if I may. Somebody needs to speak for Uncle Jack here. Those goddamn Jews. He got called to come out there and help Walt.

Walt's, and then Walt's now acting weird saying don't come, it kind of sounds like Walt's maybe being taken prisoner or like it sounds like maybe Uncle Jack thinks that he should come still. Like he's got him. I mean, you kind of, he kind of doesn't have another play there. What is he going to do? Just sit there and wait for the phone during the game? No, exactly. Walt is like Uncle Jack's fucking lead stud horse. Like he's got to go protect his interests.

So, worse comes to worst, he gets out there, and yeah, it's all cool. But, you know, other side of that is his asset is being arrested, and he can't have that happen. So it's like, yeah, of course he's going to come. The thing that I was really, you know, the thing that really had my heart going is the whole thing when he's on the, when Hank's on the phone, and he says, you know, there's the callback where he gets to do the wave he's always wanted to do when he catches Heisenberg. I was like, okay, he's going to wave and then a fucking bullet's going to go right through his skull. Like, that's what, that's, that's probably the biggest, most suspenseful moment I can remember watching TV in a really, really long time. Well, I kept expecting somebody to get hit also, like, as the bullets are flying, and that kind of gunfire, that gunfight goes on for a little while before they cut it. You're like, oh, fuck, somebody's a hit.

You know what I mean? I was like, how are they not hitting someone? Yeah. How is it like six on two? And Gomi has, like, you know, kind of the big assault rifle, but Hank's just got a pistol. And what's his face has got a scope going on, not a scope, but at least a good sight. I mean, they've got the upper position. Yeah, how are they not hitting these guys?

That, that to me, that was like my criticism of the episode. Hey, Uncle Jack, Target practice. Now I'm going to go read this book about Hitler. Like, Uncle Jack, Target practice. I mentioned the callbacks, and it reminded me of an article. that came out about all the and if you guys didn't read this it's pointless to really talk about it but the article

that talked about all the ditched storylines that they had I didn't read that oh man it is some fantastic shit and one of the most ridiculous entertainment weekly by the way I think yes it was entertainment weekly that had this and it was like 12 ditched breaking bad storylines and some of them are like kind of insignificant

and stuff and it's not the you know Jesse was supposed to die in the first season but the one that I find most hilarious and kind of wish I had seen is Junior comes home with a black eye and Walt's like oh you're someone's bullying my son and he asks him who did it and Junior tells him and Walt plants weed in this kid's locker and gets him arrested

and then it turns out that it was Junior doing the bullying and the kid like just fought back and popped him how hilarious would it be to see fucking RJ Middy just trying to bully so I don't think that kid could pull it off. He's just too nice. He's just a good a nice kid. He's bully him with breakfast. Hey man, you know, like his father, maybe he's a different person, like this Flynn persona.

Yeah. Once he gets into the halls of school, he's using that crush as a fucking bat. You want to cross Flynn? I mean, you, you want to cross Flynn? I apologize, but it had to be done. But RJ Middy talks totally. that's a character choice that he does it's a character and it's a great character he's a great character i kind of really like the scene between him and odin kirk in this last season oh that was so

a great him getting starstruck about a shitty lawyer he really plays that really well actually it's really funny i love how he he only then remembers to say you have an a one day when it's to fucking sol goodman uh speaking of which is is uh walter junior getting his fucking brain splattered all over the pavement in the end of this show i don't know i mean like we're the thing is, I think the logic, I mean, and that logic has nothing to do with it. It's just whatever happens at the show happens. Right. It makes sense that whatever happens at this shootout sends Walter away, one way or another. And I kind of feel like his family kind of recedes a bit, but maybe not. I mean, his family are going to have to die or go into witness

protection or something. I don't know, like, what's going to happen. But I could see, I could see them being killed, but I also kind of feel like they won't be. I feel like Skyler is going to have a pretty bad end. I think so. She, I mean, she broke bad, you know? Her putting down that tape with Walt is pretty reprehensible. And I like that character. I'm not one of those people. It's like, oh, I don't want a fucking bitch on television.

It throws their beard. I don't understand that the hatred of the character. And the funny thing was, I hadn't really paid attention to it. And then I read Anna Gunn's piece in The Times about it. And I was like, wait, what? This was happening? I felt the same way. It's so fucked up. I mean, you know, the short answer.

is people in this fucking world are just terrible idiots and that's not going anywhere but that's fucking horrible speaking of suicide I think I could see Skyler going out that way oh yeah I can see that I kind of my little uh and I've said it privately I'll say it publicly to the nine people

you gentle nine people listening you know what the funny thing is we always make that joke but we've got a pretty big listenership I know I just don't uh anyway it's nine times nine 81 Hey no math on this show

You saved that shit for off hours I kind of would love is Whatever happens I mean Walt's done so much terrible shit And I'm not when I said he's not evil I mean he's a terrible person And he's done terrible things And you're poisoned a kid

That doesn't make you a good guy But I kind of want it to be the situation Where he's left with nothing And he just has nothing else And he's like well Cancer is going to take me And just like This Uncle Jackson

scenario, like Jesse said, where every time you think he's going to go down, everything goes in his favor, but like the ultimate twist on that is he beats cancer when he doesn't want to beat cancer. Like at a note, like, you know what I mean? Like, just this weird wave just comes and he beats cancer and he's got to live

with it. Right, but that is what I always imagine would be the ultimate punishment for him is yes, the cancer goes away, but at the same time the cancer goes away coincides with his entire family being killed or taken away from him

and you know he you know he has to live with that and he's not going to die in six months kind of thing. I feel like that's how the show has to end because that's what he's been fighting for this whole time and we have to show that crime does not pay you know

it'll take you know you might get money but it'll take something from you besides your soul but that's an interesting that's an interesting point though too right it's it's something you just made me think of is this show obligated to say that at the end of the day crime doesn't pay or can walt kind of have a successful ending and get away with it yeah to a point where you know maybe it's not easy street but it's like hey you beat cancer you've got a billion dollars or what you know well one thing we do know for sure is that his good name will be destroyed yeah the house

get spray painted Heisenberg. Right, right. An interesting thing that a different internet article brought up. One of the things they've been keeping track

of is all the callbacks to other things that have happened in the show. And this is something that goes back to like the godfather, but the idea of oranges being a signifier of death.

And one thing I didn't see, this first episode when the show came back, when he says hi to the neighbor and she drops the grocery bag, The only thing that falls out is a bushel of oranges. So to me, that's like, okay, he's checking in on this house. He's going to get the ricin.

Someone is dying with this ricin, you know. Whether it's him, whether it's somebody else. I mean, he's got a machine gun in the car. He can't be taking the ricin. You think that's? Yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that it's a suicide ricin. Because ricin, they've described, it's pretty painful, right? Do I remember that correctly or is it pain less?

I forget. I don't remember which way it goes. I just remember because recently he said that he knew that he gave Brock just enough that it wouldn't kill him. I don't know if that's... He doesn't give Brock Reison. He gives him whatever that other poison is. Remember? Oh, yes.

Yes, you're right. You're right. Lillia of the Valley. Yeah. So I don't know then. I don't remember. So maybe the machine guns for the Nazis. He takes up the Nazis who do have Jesse Pinkman there and trapped and he still wants to get rid of Pinkman maybe and gives him the ricin for a painless death.

He doesn't want to shoot. Jesse. I do love that fucking coward. I mean, that is like, that's Vince McMahon octave is what that coward comes out. It's deep and guttural. Yeah, the coward is great and the spitting in his face is great.

Just a big luggy hawk right in his face, man. And that is like, it's funny, but of all the things he could do to, you know, put a gun in his face, try to burn his house down, spitting on a person is kind of just

the worst thing of like the insult to injury you want to hurl at somebody just i'm going to spit possibly in your mouth or up your nose side note i got my face spit in once did you really yeah what was the circumstance i was in the east village no yeah think about it no i was in the east village i've been there is it really wait are they spitting down there all right not going back it was really late like two or three o'clock of the morning i'm a little drunk and Some guys walking by. I don't know where I'm going because I have really terrible sense of direction. You certainly do.

And I don't know where the subways. I'm like, hey, do you know where the F train is, man? And he spits in my face and runs away. And I'm paralyzed with drunk rage. And then I chased him, but I'm too fat to catch him. It's a real bad situation. That's terrible. Was that recently?

No, no, no. This was like probably five or six years ago. Holy shit. Yeah, man. And, you know, for anyone who doesn't, know what Steve looks like. He's not a threatening person whatsoever. You could be like, I'm going to fucking

kill you. And I'd be like, that's adorable. I certainly would not be scared if you asked me, if you were, in fact, a stranger. Yeah. If you asked me where the F train was. Well, to me, he looks like you might have some tricks up his sleeve. Although the other question to sort of take into account here, Steve,

you say you were a little drunk. Maybe it was one of those like, I'm a little drunk. And you said to the guy, excuse me, sir, can you tell me where the F train is? And he heard that's also a possibility you want to ride the f train i didn't probably had 25 beers uh i was propositioning bed in the east village like i did a five or six years ago oh my goodness that's breaking bad that's when you break bad you go turn tricks in the village uh last this is where i want to end on because you know maybe we'll do with thing reactions to the final

episode or something like that. But we wanted to put this out there. This will be a, you know, a widely released on screen as part of our September. This is other stuff we hate movies does. I want to leave it at this because it's on a lighter note. It's not spitting in anyone's face. It's not killing anyone's family with a machine gun. Saw Goodman's spinoff prequel?

What are we thinking about that? Is it actually a prequel or is it a sequel? I think it's vague. Yeah, I've read some things both ways. I'm kind of not excited either way. I'm kind of okay with it. I mean, I like the Saul Goodman character enough. I feel like in general, it sounds like a bad idea that wouldn't go well, but I trust Vince Gilligan.

Right. I trust Vince Gilligan, too. The thing that I would find the most interesting is if you took the route of it's a prequel so far back that it's Saul Goodman back in Chicago. using his Irish name. Using CGI to make Odin Kirkland. Well, I mean, that's impossible. Well, I mean, you know, who knows when it was that, you know, Saul Goodman left Chicago? I don't know.

The thing that I worry about is if you're going to do a show like that, it's like, you know, Saul Goodman's law practice, it would not, it would be, you'd be hard pressed to make it serialized television. It would be like a case of the weak thing. Right. I feel like the tone would be very, very different. Probably play up comedy more. You'd have to. I mean, yeah, you can't do a breaking bad with Saul Goodman as the center. It doesn't make any sense.

It would have to be a bit lighter, a bit more fun. Like little shignanigans with Hool and, is that his name, Hul? Hewle and Bill Burr. Yeah, Bill Burr is great on that show. Bill Burr is fantastic. And Huell apparently also is a stand-up comedian. I didn't know that. I had a question about comedians and Bob Odenkirk as, as Saul Good.

does he i mean and not that i'm not putting david cross and bob oed and kirk against each other but does this role edge out to bias and arrest development yes yeah 100% right 100% it does uh you know i can't recall david cross really doing anything serious outside of when he played alan ginsberg in that todd haynes movie yeah and even that was just i felt i felt like i was watching a mr show sketch it was kind of a cameo yeah yeah so i mean so i mean so i I don't know, but as far as the two biggest things they're known for outside of Bob and David, Saul Goodman wins. I mean, it's a bigger range. Not that Tobias is bad.

I mean, Tobias is so hilarious. Yeah, cultural icon. It's such different types of performances. Yeah. I mean, I really think this show, I don't know. I don't want to pit them against each other either, but to me, and I guess in a lot of, lot of my comic sensibilities and the stuff, you know, Steve that you and I've written and done on stage and whatever. I don't know. Bob Odenkirk's comedic sensibilities have always appealed to me more than David Crosses have. And not that they're that different, but there is that difference. And Bob Odenkirk, you know, I always kind of played favorites with him. So the fact that the show has allowed him to sort of really blossom. And now he's, because of the show, he's now on the level that David Cross has been at for a number of years. Oh, yeah. He was always the red-headed stepchild of that, too, you know, like just kind of the guy behind the scenes, whatever.

I mean, he was in front of the camera, but he's, I mean, he's directed movies. He still writes things all the time. But now, you know, Breaking Bad is allowed Bob Odenk to become a household name, which I think is fucking awesome. That is great. And, you know, on that note, they're doing a Mr. Show tour, and there's a new Mr. Show book out that talks about the scripts that they never got made and everything. And, I mean, I love, I love both of them. But, yeah, I saw Goodman's the better character. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's cool to see him come back that way. And I mean, I think that it's going to be interesting to watch a show age a bit.

And there's the whole Breaking Bad v. Madman thing, too. Right. That's a real thing. And I think that that, that's a real thing. That's a real thing. I just, yeah, no, it's a real thing. I know, I know, but I'm just thinking, how silly is it? How silly is that people were like, oh, no,

team madman. Team Breaking Man. Just these like fucking literary snod. Like dudes in like really thin tithes reading Camus and smoking cigarettes. Like, Mad Men is better. And I love Mad Men so much. Well,

do we want to do this? Which show do you like more? It's tough because I like the weird thing about Breaking Bad over almost everything, including the Sopranos, is that it's so limited. linear and it's so focused on just Walter White and everybody else is a satellite

not you're not having those mad men digressions or those Sopranos digressions into different characters where they're going like no one really has subplots and they have subplots but they have to directly impact Walt in every single way you're right everybody

you know it's kind of like when Walt's not on screen everybody's asking where's poochie I mean it's like everything that everyone does in some way is, you know, to benefit Walt, to not benefit Walt, is associated with Walt is because of Walt. So yeah, you're right. And, you know, that's, you can't say that about Medmen because the example there would be Don, and that's not with that show is that show has, Peggy's doing all sorts of stuff. Peggy's moving and shaking. The kids are up in Westchester moving and shaking.

I mean, so, Henry Francis, I am a character. Maybe someday I will run for governor. betty you're getting fat again betty you got cancer or what i mean i've been waiting to do fucking henry francis but problem is he never made movies in the 90s so we'll have to do it on screen for the final season of madmen maybe i mean

i don't know i'm always more excited to watch breaking bad i love madmen and i think this past season was you know one of the better ones that they've done but you know i i love i love both so it's really hard to pick it is i mean i think like i'm more excited to watch breaking bad but i think i probably enjoy watching madman

more probably just because i'm not given those insane moments of clippanginess exactly like the most insane we ever got was lane price fucking hanging himself there but uh yeah you know you're right madman spoiler well that was like a season or two ago right yeah it's fine yeah it's fineish

uh we could amend all amcc shows i'm gonna fucking spoil rubicon in this second. Hey man, I'm one of the few people on the planet that dug on that Rubicon. I was bummed when it got canceled. Whatever, Eric. You watch Hell on Wheels. I do. I love that that's an AMC insult. You watch Hell on Wheels, jerk. You're a fan of low winter sun loser. You know, like Steve's going through his 902 and O thing. Like, this is my 902 and O thing. That's fair. You know, like, I recognize it as low television. I'm not bringing it up with. Madman and Breaking Bad.

It's fine. You know what? Stuff on that network is leaps and bounds anything on the big networks. I mean, call a meanie. And then you've got this ridiculous. A bo-Hannon! It's so, it's so ridiculous. Guys, if you're not watching Hell on Wheels,

he fucking smokes a cigar and drinks whiskey with Ulysses S. Grant in the last episode. So my God, fire it up, folks. Catch up, Netflix instant. That is something you would like, that's a situation. you would dream up while sitting around high. Just like, oh, man, what if we were sitting? God, shh, shh, shh, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're all sitting around.

We're smoking cigars and drinking whiskey. But get this, guys, Ulysses S. Grant is there. Oh, man! And I won't tell you how, but Cullen Bowen murders a Mormon child. Wow. So, hey, that hell on wheels sounds pretty good now, doesn't it? I want you to do a solo.

on screen of Hell on Wheels. Hello, I'm Eric Serska, and this is Hell on Wheels. So, uh, how about that? Right, right, everyone? Right me? Colmini guest stars. Cole Meaty in your apartment. Man, I would be jealous if you got to sit down with Colmini.

That would be fantastic. What a get. I'd be on the right track then. The right train track. That's right. It's a show about trains. Uh, my God. want to stop talking about breaking bed but we kind of have uh yeah let's cut it that's cut

it right there that's w hm on the screen again three episodes left enjoy your breaking bed maybe we will uh come back and do uh what we thought of the the finale maybe if folks are interested yeah let us know but could we do a quick like thing like i know we've gotten a lot of questions lately it's on our FAQ page but if you're looking to get the app on uh an iPhone or something get the podcast box app and then look for us. I think we're under arts right now. It's under arts and I've emailed them several times about getting

it switched to comedy but I think they just think we're a classier show than we are because they won't switch it over. So Eric's right. There's a free app. It's called podcast box. You can download it for free in the iTunes store. It's an aggregator app. So you open up the podcast box app

like Eric said, search under arts for some reason and there is our app. You can purchase it there. Or if you you want to pick up these side episodes on a case-by-case basis, you can visit us over at w-h-mpodcast. com.com.

From now on, all the episodes that are being released on the app, I'm releasing on band-camp separately, but simultaneously, and I'm working on getting the rest of the back episodes that are on the app that are not on the band-camp page, also up on the band-camp page, so you can check those out. And I think for Android, it's on the Amazon Marketplace and I think Google now.

It's on Google Play, the Android, rather the Amazon Marketplace, if you have an Android operating system, that's where you can get that. And it's chock full of goodness like this episode was. This, side order of slees, WHM Live, and kind of just other shows we

come up with along the way. This is where we're going to dump him. The main RSS feed is always going to be WHM Prime, as we call it, which is us talking about bad movies, but clearly today we spent 40 minutes talking about a television show we all enjoy, which is totally fine and, you know, the great thing about doing

podcast. And if you've got an idea for a show you want us to do, shoot us an email. We'll do it. I mean, if you want us to talk to talk about awkward sexual experiences, it's probably not going to happen, but you could write us an email about it. It'll probably be one minute long. Sort of like my awkward sexual experience. Hello! Welcome

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