We Hate Movies - S5 Ep177: Wild in the Streets

Episode Date: November 4, 2014

On this week's episode, the gang kicks off the latest Listener Request Month with the ridiculous, 60's propaganda film, Wild in the Streets! Did Ed Begley Sr. ever play a likable character? Where was all the Capitol security in this film? And how did a band who never tours get so popular? PLUS: Take it easy baby, baby man, baby; we're all the fifty-two percent! Wild in the Streets stars Christopher Jones, Shelley Winters, Hal Holbrook, Richard Pryor, Ed Begley Sr. and Larry Bishop; directed by Barry Shear. And be sure to check out our new merch store over at whmpodcast.spreadshirt.com! Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

Hello, I'm Andrew Jupin. Eric Siska. Steven Zeta. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the kickoff. off of listener request month 2014

well the back end of 2014 did we do one earlier in the year by the way we did one in February alright well so this is the back half of the month 20 back half of the year rather why did we do it again then I don't know we do we sometimes like to do two times a year

sometimes we don't do it at all November is kind of in our programming season a it's the grab bag month I think last year we did stay tuned maybe the year before that we didn't do anything you know It's just sort of like whatever. We have a couple months later for certain purposes, but this time around we're like, you know what?

Let's give them two listener requests months. Yeah, and it's totally fun. So we perused hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of phone calls. So, you know, up front before we get underway this month, thank you again to everybody who called in. It was most fantastic of you. It was like almost 700 or something. It was almost 700 phone calls.

And, you know, if your movie doesn't get picked here, right? But then, like, we wind up doing it down the road. Like, there's a good chance you have. inspired us. There is a lot of stuff that was already on our to-do list. And we'll keep watch as they go along, but first, I will say, Steve, was this a Steve Select? This was

not a Steve Select. 1968's Wild in the Streets, directed by Barry Shear. This was requested by David from America, who called in and had this to say. This is David calling from the real America. As we approach this vital midterm

election, there's one issue on everyone's mind, the horrors that would be unleashed upon this country if people under 21 were allowed to vote. They'd get hippies into office, popular musicians and actors would control our foreign policy, and before long anyone, too, square for them would be put into camps. Fortunately, we don't have to imagine this nightmare scenario since it was put to film in the 1968 movie Wild in the Streets. But not enough people have seen it, and so they continue to advocate that teenagers should be allowed to vote. Please help spread the message of Wild in the streets before it's too late.

So that's the real America. This is like, this is like Hulk Hogan, red, white, and blue, grade A beef. That's another America. Yeah, that's not this America in the movie, not Wild in the streets. Or the America we record the scene. Oh, we're in Obama's America at this point.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's really right around the corner. Obama's America, 2016. This was written by a guy named Robert Tom, who also wrote Crazy Mama and Death Race 2000. Crazy Mama's like Jonathan Demi's like second ever

feature, like second or third feature and then Death Race 2000 of course. It's classic. Death Race 2000, yeah. I don't have all my records in front of me. This is probably the oldest we've gone since the Conqueror. Oh, yes. Since the Conqueror, yeah. I would say so. We've only hit the 60s

once before. We've done a couple of 70s here and they're not too much. A ton of 80s, a little bit of early 2000s. A little bit of today. A little bit of the hits of today. What was the other 60s movie we did? Wasn't that the Conquer? The Conquer's 50s.

Oh, I apologize. I think this is our first movie in the 60s. I mean, this is slap dab right in the middle of the 60s. It's the 60s feeling 60s movie ever. You could smell Kennedy's corpse all over this movie. Both of them at this point. Oh, we did the same joke, but just said it differently. Yeah, I was going to say which one?

And Andrew did it the better way. I don't know about that. But Eric, you really clung on to this. this movie. Yeah, this was an Eric Peruses. Not a dude's like with an Eric Perruz. You know, this was a tough one for me to pick because there were so many great choices.

Oh, yeah. It's just like, some of them are coming down the line, you know, don't worry about it. But this is just, it sounded so crazy. And I, you know, I made a list of like ones I hadn't seen. I was like, oh, these all sound fucking crazy. This fucking sounds crazy. How is this real? How is this something?

And then I saw it and I was like, this is fucking crazy. How is this real? how is this something so then Eric whispers alone in his room at night I do Eric do you believe this no I don't Eric Should we really kill those people tomorrow

I don't know maybe That'd be fucking crazy Eric That'd be fucking crazy That's fucking crazy How does it exist Anyway so yes So I selected this one

What is this movie about To really just like boil it down Like we used to do Like boil down This movie to its essence what is this movie about? It's a movie about it's basically a horror

what's it of if children well like if the voting age got lowered from then 21 to 14 I suppose is where we get to well the reasonable thing

it's like this is where it's all going to go this is what they want this is what they're going to get right yeah this is what's going to happen and oh when the kids learn to vote And then what do they do? They elect a bunch of greasy hippies in the office,

these psychedelic rockers. Who aren't just about free love, by the way. They're about shutting down anyone that's not like them. So it goes both ways, pal. This movie does want to have its cake and eat it too. It does want things both ways. And that's why it's a colossal failure. And we should point out right now

that the New York Times when this movie came out said that it was, quote, an instant classic. whoops that's why in hindsight you can't throw around things like

this is going to be a classic film what a fucking modern masterpiece because you know why fucking 40, 50 years on someone's doing a

podcast calling you a moron you weren't as president as you thought you were well you know in the moment you see all that youth culture

turmoil around you thinking what if these maniacs got to say in the way we govern our nation And what, what, what, what would happen then, you know? It's like, speed limits?

Seat belt laws. Oh, well, I never. Well, it turns out much like most South Park episodes, everyone's a little bit wrong, you know? Like, maybe both sides are looking at this too, too extreme. Yeah, good call. Um, so we open on a really, and you said this is like kind of horrid, like the, the start of this movie. Right. This is a very, sounds like a horror movie.

This is a domer's childhood, man. Yeah. What if Dahmer played in a groovy 60s band? Like Charles Manson did? Right. Like what if Charles Manson Instead of murdering Sharon Taden, if he didn't have those moments of... Well, he had her murdered.

Right. By his acolytes. I apologize to Charles Manson. Damn right, you will. The blood was not on his hands. It's just all over his shirt and beard. Oh. I was about five minutes away from taking credit for reading a book that I haven't. Because my girlfriend's reading the biography, and I was like, well, you know, in the biography. And I was like, shut up, Steve.

You didn't read that fucking book. Pipe down, Steve. Sorry, Steve. So it's like if Charles Manson didn't do his crimes there, and he was elected president, where would we be today? And that is, well, not today. I guess where would we be in the moment? Right. And maybe first 100 days in office, I suppose.

Manson's first 100 days. What would he do in his first 100 days? But it kind of reminds me the beginning of hide her in the house. This little montage of horror. Yeah, because it's all like, it's, so we open on like this weird thing where it's like fireworks going off

and you hear Shelley Winters whispering and she's like, I just don't want a child. You can't make me have a child. Why would I bring a child into this world? And also she doesn't want a boy because she's like, if it's a boy, I'll die. Oh, I'll just kill myself.

It's kind of almost like the beginning of it's a wonderful, life right because it's just these two lights talking to each other but in the worst way possible yeah nothing's totally right nothing's on camera really yeah it's no it's just fireworks and sort of like a like transparent american flag sort of waving around oh i'm sorry i'm late clarence you idiot you stupid adult angel you'll never get your wings yeah so she's just yeah she she doesn't want a boy and then like we kind of flash forward a couple of years and like she's hitting this kid and she's hitting the shit out of this case

you're never gonna matter nothing like it's just like real creep shit in her defense he's ripping all the plastic off the furniture yeah which like I've seen you know the like people put like the plastic covers on a couch or something but in this movie and I guess it's just

because it was like 68 so you know it was what it was this shit looks like saran wrap yeah it's pretty gross saran wrap and I was like why would you put this on your couch just all binding up and the sound every time you sit on the couch, the crunching.

Oh, it had to be horrible. I mean, I think we're over plastic on couches, right? We're done with it. Well, because we've invented stuff like Scotch Guard and we've also evolved into a more disposable culture where it's like, oh, you know, I'll get a new couch next year, whatever. Let's just throw this fucking Ikea. Raymore and Flanagan.

Hi, my Bob's big store. That guy is like a skeleton with a flesh suit on. I think these might be a little regional for our listening. Jobs discount furniture? Is that?

That's got to be regional. Yeah, probably. Maybe. Raymore and Flanagan's National. Is it really? For our overseas listeners, it's a furniture store. And for everyone else, Jennifer Convertibles, which is not about cars or ladies. Neither.

That's the brilliance of it. So, like, we flash forward, Greg Brady shows up, which is kind of cool. Yeah, Greg Brady's playing this kid as like a 10-year-old or a 12-year-old. old or something like that. He's not creepy yet. This kid turns creepy, but like when he's Greg Brady, he kind of like, I think he gets a dog at this point, and the mother's like, I'll fucking kill it.

There's a really awesome part. Like, this was not a trained dog actor. Like, this was just like a dog that someone brought in, and it's fucking hilarious, because like, the kid is like, hey, dad, like, friends are coming over. Like, I don't want the plastic on the couch to look stupid. And the dad is like, oh,

they'll say, son, you're right. Now, who is it who works around this house? And he's like, you do that's right and who brings in the money to buy this furniture you do so who would you say owns this couch you do well then let's do it and they start like tearing the plastic off and Shelley Winners runs in like now what's going on here and as she does this the dog actor gets like spooked oh yeah and totally bites Greg Brady's arm it's so funny and it's just left in this like it's like this big fat bulldog just like how it takes a bite out of Barry whatever his name is And Shelley Winters not only smacks the sun, but also the father right up in the face. Oh, yeah. Just, just, just, just abuse all over the place. It's a really shitty life that this kid has. So then we flash forward again.

Now he's like a teenager. Yeah. Real interested in chemistry. Making some homemade LSD he is. He's like a beatnik chemist. He's got that little woolbini on. Totally. Little Walter White action, little 1960s Walter White.

Yeah. And it's kind of funny because, like, Shelly Winters in this movie and it's more apparent later on but like she definitely has like a thing for this son of hers and like in this basement scene

where he's making the LSD she's like so what are you doing and he's like I'm just making some LSD because I fucking hate you and she's like oh yeah you know you should you should be like a chemist that makes perfume something that smells good

make your mother smell good. And he's like, yeah, but I'm just going to make this LSD, so could you shut up? And you're just like, that's kind of weird, Shelley Winters. I hope that doesn't really escalate it anymore of this movie. It does. Yeah. So then it's like, he's just

sick and tired of this family life. He goes mental. He stabs that plastic covered couch. Well, because he saved up $800, which I did some calculations, which I think was $1 million back then. One and a half million dollars. That sounds a little bit more. Yeah, yeah.

It was $1.5 million. in the 60s. So he's like, I'm a millionaire. I got a hundred bucks. So yeah, he starts slashing up the couch. He's breaking things. It's pretty twisted. In defense of Shelley Winters and that couch, it is still in good condition while he is clearly

aged at least, what, like 10 years? Yes, it's true. Yeah, that couch does have him beat. I mean, I'm just saying it was a good investment and maybe putting the plastic on it helped it. Well, it didn't help it when he plunged a knife into it multiple times. There's feathers everywhere and he like breaks a

bunch of shit. He's throwing lamps all over the place. Then he writes like... Kills that dog? No, he doesn't kill the dog. Does he? No, he doesn't kill the dog. He actually gives the dog a teary-eyed farewell and he can't bring you a boy. Oh, right, right, right. And then he writes like, mom and dad, like, I'm not going to be your slave anymore.

Your son, Max. X, O, X, what does he say? It's Mama, comma, Papa. Screw off. Me, X, X, X.X. Yes, screw off. Screw off. That's some fucking harsh language. It's like a harder sit on it. And then he wore.

walks outside and tosses a car bomb into the car. He blows up the family car. It explodes into a fiery abyss. This is like the beginning of Heath Ledger's Joker, I think. I think that's how he got his start. Yeah. It's so fucked up. And like that's like your beginning of this movie is this montage of this kid

growing into a really weird person. And then what you don't see, he somehow magically becomes this like 60s psychedelia pop superstar who's like seemingly overnight he's a multi this voiceover narration by the way is also like you know like a 1950s industrial type of yeah this this voiceover narration while it does sound like it's from an industrial film it's also like a dead be dead it fucking comes and goes when it pleases yeah so only on holidays this son of a bitch shows up reeking of whiskey and lotto tickets and max frost then became a multi-milli millionaire after taxes, of course.

So to tell you, like, it's not just like a bullshit millionaire, where he's only got, like, 500K in the bank. Well, he's like, he's worth $12.4 million due to record sales, public appearances, and LSD money. He's a fucking drug dealer. Well, he can make the shit. Yeah. And we're introduced to, like, his posse.

He's got a little posse with him, which is, like, his band. There's a dude who's got a hook for a hand. Larry Bishop. Oh, Larry Bishop, right. Yeah, from all those motorcycle movies that nobody watches? That's the one and the same. That's the conversation Eric and I had at the beer store earlier. I know.

Who the fuck is this guy? Yeah, we were at 7-Eleven picking up some beer and I ran into Steve and I was like, I don't know. He's a guy that wears like tuxedo shirts and rides motorcycles in the West or something. That's just, that's Larry Bishop's bag. He had a movie come out like maybe like three or four years ago at this point, but it was like another Larry Bishop motorcycle movie. I want to say Danny Trejo may have been involved. I'm sure he was. Wasn't Michael Madison?

Michael Madsen's in that movie. Yes, that's, I might be going to... Hellride. Yes, that's what it was called. Quentin Tarantino presents situation. It felt like it. I feel like that's a rubber stamp. He's not presenting all these movies. He's not watching all these movies.

No. Madsen shows up. He's like, hey, man, give me a favor. You want to present this movie? Give me like your two top stars and then like six IMDB keywords. And, like, QT's got a formula for whether or not he will present that film. Here's the summary of Hell Ride on IMDB. Oh, right.

The story deals with characters, Pistallero, the gent, and Comanche. That's a movie I'm not going to watch it. I've seen this movie, and I don't remember a thing about it. And the deadly, unfinished business among them. Hellride. Yeah, I was more excited to be watching this movie. Wild in the streets. All right, let's get back to that.

He's got a 24-year-old. Very important. She's 24-year-old girlfriend who is, or just friend, like, acquaintance. She plays, she plays like the organ in the band. Her name's Sally or something. She's a former child star, but now LSD head as the... Oh, yeah, the narration comes back and be like, that one's got some problems. This one here is spoiled goods.

And this one here is very. Richard Pryor before he made it. Dude, Richard Pryor is in this movie doing the worst fake drumming of all time. Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Richard Pryor is like the drummer in this fan and you're like, you got lucky Pryor. Thank God you were a genius stand-up comedian.

My God, the acting in this movie. I mean, I don't know. I mean, like this movie is all over the place and like a lot of these characters come in and out, but it's weird, like him especially. Like, I mean, maybe because I was looking for him to come back. Yeah. He does nothing in this movie.

He's got like, every so often, like, they'll cut to a group of people and he'll be there and he'll be like yeah baby or not like my 50 50 on that my favorite richard prior moment is there's like a scene kind of towards the middle of the movie where this this singer's like political career is on the rise and they're trying to strategize and of course like because the movie has to make sure they keep being dirty hippies the whole time they all like sleep on the same pile of pillows so like these two dudes are like discussing political strategy and one guy is just like lay on Richard Pryor's lap and

Richard Pryor's job in this scene is to just sleep through the entire scene. Just pretend you're sleeping while this guy like talks congressional strategy with another person. I'm pretty sure this isn't exactly how Richard Pryor experienced the 60s B.T. Dobs. Yeah, probably not.

Also, there's Billy Cage. Now, he is the youngest graduate of Yale Law. 15 years old. Oh, yeah. Years old, and he's a lawyer, and he does the taxes for the, the multi-millionaire?

She is like foolishly Max Frost. This guy Jimmy changes the name to Max Frost. He's foolishly his whole like platform is like if this guy's a genius everyone is 15 to genius. That's not how that shit works. It's so stupid

and also Max Frost you might want to check this dude's backstory because this actor ain't 15 years old. So I am not buying that this buddy of yours is 15. And that's the thing is they're all sitting they're all sitting around and they're like oh man being 30 i think i want to be dead before then and i'm very clear obviously a couple of these people are over 30 oh yeah it's

all like oh man i'm just gonna end it all man 32 total tops what's the fucking point after that i just want to strangle these people yeah and it's just it it turns into a bunch of stupid shit like we need kids rights you know it's like it's like nicolode in the 90s it's yeah it's It's a 1968 up with kids. I hate it. But it's like you've got the important issue of people who are 18 if they're dying for the country should be able to vote. And that's a real thing. Lower the voting age to 18, whatever.

Well, that's, I mean, that's where this comes from. Like, that didn't happen to like 70 or 71 or something like that. So, like, they're taking the real argument, like, of the time and being like, but look, what could happen? What's next if these 18-year-olds could vote? 14 10 What's next? Dog voting Is that what you want?

I kind of want dog voting. I love dog voting. Like step on this panel or this panel, mittens. Oh, that just reminds me of delocated John Glazier becomes dog mayor. It's a good one. But, I mean, I agree with you. And that's kind of the, I mean, like, I feel like I would have been a hippie back in the 60s. pretty damn close. You know, they had some pretty good

mustaches. I was all, I'm always more 70s than 60s, FYI. I, I skew 70s more than 60s. I skew 70s more than 60s. You know, imaginary decades that you could live in. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure. I just want an open denim jacket. Like, we're smoking

weed, but we're not talking about pot. We're just doing it, man. We're just hanging out. You're just doing it. And nobody's making a fucking big deal about it. Isn't that the worst? Yeah, we're just, hey man, you want to just sit around and talk about how we're smoking weed man. No, I don't.

You know what deck at icekew? What? 90s. 1890s. Oh, wow. That's right. I just give me my tobacco and get off my land. Bowhannon. Oh, I'll get you in your railroad yet.

But the weird thing is, it's like they really knew Phil Oaks was actually approached to be this lead. Oh, yeah, he was supposed to be Max Fraud. And he read the script and he's like, yeah, that's kind of not what I'm about, man.

Because, I mean, what this movie does is just strip that whole movement of any kind of... Legitimacy. Legitimacy. Logic. Logic. Like, you know, it takes... Any and all race elements are never brought up.

Any and all, like... No. Like, it's just like... All they want to do is just drink their drugs and make little babies vote. And like, that's kind of not it. You see that? You see that? They're doing they're drunk. They're making that baby vote.

You drink or LSD and you raise your baby. See if I care. I mean, that's the thing is that none of that stuff. I mean, the war is mentioned, but also kind of in passing. Like, it's just like, oh, man, we're just so naive and fucking stupid. Well, that's the thing is, like, we won't talk about the war. I mean, this fucking 68. Like, we won't talk about the war, but we'll keep talking about, like, drafting, you know?

It's like, that's, like, as far as this thing will go. And it's like, if you're trying to make this, like, grand gesture about, what you perceived to be a problem with an entire generation like get specific about shit. Well, do you think they were like like, oh, take out these references

to the war. I mean, this movie's going to come out in 68 at 60s. The war might be over by then. You know, who knows? We might have wanted by now. This movie comes out. The war's wrapped up and we're screwed. Well, they'll be real leg on our face. I think to a degree, it's also like

this movie's put out by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and it's like, let's not ruffle too many feathers. We'll just ruffle that feather, that feather, and her feather. Let's just show a 60s freak out concert. Oh man. So yeah, so like we get to see this band

perform several times. So many times. And this is just like the worst fucking music. It just, it turns my stomach this kind of music, man. The dude who does play Max Frost is nobody, right? Like, just kind of a nobody. He looks exactly like the professor from

Gillingham's Island a lot. Yeah, I guess I could see that. He was a dude that was supposedly, like, in line to be the next James Dean and then just, like, totally just vanished. I read that he had, like, some type of nervous breakdown. Oh, really? There's apparently, like, an E. True Hollywood story about him. About this guy? Yeah.

What were the later seasons of E. True Hollywood Story? Yeah. Apparently. E. True Hollywood Stories, supplemental. Yeah, you can only watch it online. You don't. Actually, you can't. I tried. I looked for that.

Right in for the transcript. Apparently he ended up being like kind of a shut in a little bit. Oh, really? And by the way, I was looking through the main cast. Out of the main players. Yes. Hal Holbrook outlived everyone in this movie. That's so insane.

That is outrageous. How Holbrook might outlive everyone in America. How Holbrook. I would be fine with that. Hal Holbrook is, and I didn't know this until seeing this movie. This is like the earliest Hal Holbrook I think I've seen. he's a Walter Mathau. Like, this guy was never young.

No, he never was. Like, in this movie, like, he's playing, like, this youngish politician who's supposed to be, like, 35 or something, he just looks like grim death. He just looks, he then looks old as shit. Well, no, he's, I mean, he's a Kennedy-esque type in this movie. Like, he's younger, because they put him against Ed Bagley, Sr., who had made a career as being the least likable screen presence ever. Oh, yeah, that guy was hated in every movie he was in.

It's always a bitter fuck. Yeah, he never played like a humbled grandfather. Little known fact, Hal Holbrook's live story is Interview with the Vampire. He's actually LaSot, the Vampire. At the end of the Interview of the Vampire, when he pops up in the convertible and starts biting Christian Slater, that was Hal Holbrook. Oh, wow. I had no idea. That's pretty amazing.

That is pretty great. You know what I think is one underrated movie and performance by Hall of Hobbrook is Fletch lives. Who is he in Fletch lives? The bad guy, I would bet. Yeah, he's like, that rings true to me. It's been a while since I've seen it. But yeah, he's like a son of the South type of guy. Oh, well, that makes sense.

I was going to say the only scene I really remember from Fletch lives is what he, like, accidentally goes to that clan meeting. Yeah. It's kind of the funniest part of that movie. Yeah, he also wears some fake teeth at some point. He loved disguises that Fletch. Well, it's the way this band operates, and I don't understand, like, maybe he's, how music worked in the 1960s

like this band is never on tour they're never announcing dates they're just always playing in the line because the concerts come to them man hey baby baby man they say baby so much in this movie they say baby and he's calling everybody his troops like the fans of the band or the troops ugh but like

sickening he's just hanging out smoking weed as his friends and he's like yeah man it's just like we've read something today we're 52% of a country man 52% of the country's under 30. And then they're just playing a song like, 52% is less than 30. That's why this music makes me sick, because it's exactly that. It's like, we say something, and it's like prophetic, and then instantly a song's written about it.

Yeah, they're never practicing. He's never scribbling. No, like there's later in the, like, minutes from what we're talking about, he's like, you know what, how Holbrook, the voting age really should be 14. Well, 14 or fight with us. Like, the song, like, just happens. And I'm like, no, wait. I was like, Bap, da, bada, bada, 14, all fight.

Ugh, ah. I read that 52%. 52% of America is under 25 years old. The rest of them, babies, they're the minority. We're the majority. We're the majority. Maybe we may. We're 52%.

It's so Yeah, we're 52% They write the TV shows for us We're 52% They designed a close for us It's so terrible The music in this But like

Geez man Even me at 18 I'm not gonna be fighting For the rights For a 14 year old to vote You know why? It's stupid And a 14 year old should see it's stupid

A 14 year old doesn't want to vote No In order to vote You need to have all of the mechanics of masturbation worked out. You know what? That's it. That's number. Well, actually, wait a second then 14 year old boys would be fucking perfect for voting.

She's still figuring it out. I remember my track record. So instead of pulling a lever, yeah, it's a... Oh, no, I had the one where I had to punch the hole. Well, they're not all lever pulling. Right, yeah. Yeah, we...

You get the dangling chat. Yeah, I was going sort of the back route to a hanging Chad joke. Excuse me, everyone. I'll be back in the year 2000. Oh, that's a rough country. That's a bad ride. This is a good joke, Jack. You sure you want to do that? Oh, your tires will never make it.

I mean, so yeah, but I mean, how Holbrook is this Kennedy-ass guy who's coming out? He's like, look, I think he's running for Senator, and he's like, you know, I want in California the right to vote in 18. And they're like, oh, dig, man, I dig that. And they're just kind of talking. And to be clear, like, Hal Holbrook is using Max Frost's band to be like, look, I'm hip with the kids. Like, you're a popular musician.

Like, I mean, just like we still do now, like using actors and musicians to get the youth interested in politics. You're a popular musician that never tours and only plays in one location. Which is known nationally somehow? Which this one location appears to be a darkened like a community college auditorium. matter, baby. We got the radio. It's beaming all these waves across this great land of ours. And you know, I think I like the music a little more than you do, Andrew.

But it's always with this fucking Lenny Bruce speech that he's got to give beforehand. And I'm just tapping my foot. I mean, I hate the music in this movie so much. I would listen to a spoken word record of this jackass. Just bebop and scat about fucking contemporary politics.

man. And it's like there's so much for the voting rights of children that they're willing to throw every other group under the bus too. Because at one point he's just like, you let the chicks vote, man, you let that happen. So this is going to happen now. Like that's what they start talking about

like the fucking suffrage movement and they talk about like civil rights and then it's like and now it's kids rights. No. No, absolutely not. Also civil rights wasn't worked out yet. FYI. Yeah, we hadn't dotted all the eyes and crossed all the

T's on that one. Hey, baby, man, it doesn't matter, you know? We just got to get these kids to, you know, the kids were sorted out, man. But it's, no one bothers to, and I, this is actually still a larger problem with voting where it's like, name me an issue that that person you're voting for is like

on board with or against. Like, we have a hard enough time with, like, adults doing that. Some fucking 14 year old kid, you're like, all right, Sammy, you know, what is this person's stance on gun controls? I don't know, man, skateboarding. It's like they don't bother to think about what they're saying.

And I get it, by the way. This is all supposed to be a big, like, nightmareish reality. Yeah, like, oh, look what would happen. Hey, man, that's a good idea, Sammy. I'm going to replace every gun with a skateboard. Because I can do that. I'm Max Frost. I'm the president.

Not yet. You're not. Well, once you get to voting. So he screws over Hal Holbrook, because he gets out on stage and Hal Holbrook's, like, giving this, like, televised event or whatever. He's, like, a rational, real person-ish. He's the most level-headed person in the entire film. And we're supposed to, I mean, like, and that's the thing is, I, again, like, I was all for the hippies, but I feel like a guy that should be against the hippies. This movie's making me hate hippies.

Well, that was its intention. Yeah. Well, it did a good job because of these fucking idiots. So he gets out on stage and how old. Brook has just said to him, like, all you have to do is go out there and say, voting age should be 18. Play your song and get off. And he's like, all right, baby, man, I got it. And he gets out there and he's like, you know what, man, I've been doing some thinking.

If my little baby accountant over here can't vote, then nobody should vote. You see that little baby over there? That baby does my taxes, man. Doesn't great. And I'm a millionaire, man. And that baby's a genius. And that means, hey, man, all babies are geniuses. It's like baby geniuses.

Yeah. He's starting to make him sound like Lou Gossett Jr. But so he's like on national television, he says, so that's why I'm standing here today with Hal Holbrook. And the voting age should be 14, baby. And like Holbrook's jaw drops to the floor like, oh, fuck. Like he fucked me on national television. What am I going to do?

And he's like, and you know what, baby man? I want all my little babies to meet in the Coliseum tomorrow. Three days from now, we're going to have a big old rally, 14-year-old voting rights. Everyone's like, oh, shit. And, like, everyone is freaking the fuck out. Like, what are they going to do with this rally? The narrator wakes up, and he's like, the rally was scheduled, and all of the country was terrified.

Everyone was shitting their pants. And teenagers start to show up in droves. But why, Friday morning, not Saturday, the day of the event? Even though Hell Holbrookin. Well, I guess he's not named Hell Holbrook. Well, he close it up. Even though Hal Holbrookin, Max Foster, isn't scheduled to appear. for another 24 hours

And then a light hits a gargoyle and Ed Begley Senior wakes up and he bat his bat wings fly him to Hal Holbrook's house He's like, man, what's going on here? I hate everyone.

Ed Begley Jr. was still in the egg, basically. Well, he was around. He was egg Bagley Jr. That's so stupid. I'm glad it played. Yeah, baby man. You know, I think the little egg should be able to vote, too.

Hey, man, if you're a person at conception, why can't this Zagot vote? Get out the Zagot vote. I'm now imagining that egg character Sheldon from Garfield and Friends. I really think I should have the right to vote, you know, even though I'm just stuck in this here, egg shell. Oh, yeah, Shell, baby, you should be able to vote. I can't wait to do Christopher Guess movies. that sounds really groovy baby man so what happens is

like somehow or another all these teenagers storming the Coliseum like when anyone storms a Coliseum you know fight breaks out and like a couple of kids get killed I don't know that's a little later oh is that when that happens one of my notes is finally dead teenagers

because I was fucking rooting for it I mean I'll just put the hell's angels in charge of security what's the problem because basically Ed Begley we saw that fail before give me shelter Ed Begley senior and Hal Holbrook go to his compound

They try and talk him out of it They're like look 14 is fucking nuts Could you at least maybe 15 And you know Ed Bagley doesn't rub anyone the right way And storms off and Hal Holbrook's like look This is how the world works You got to make that guy happy because he runs California Etcetera et cetera et cetera

You have to make a concession He's trying to teach him how politics work Because he's a stupid kid and he doesn't understand how politics work because he's been fucking making LSD in his basement and never took a fucking civics class and he talks him down

and they go up to 15 and for some reason Hal Holbrook's okay with that which 15's still way too fucking young. I think it's because he's just like they are lobbying for like 16 17. Yeah. Like that's what like Bagley seniors like it's got to be at least 18 if we're not doing 18

maybe 17. And he how you know how those people are right? everyone starts looking the other way and he's like uh all right so 16 the guy's like no baby man don't forget my accountant his birthday's next week and he's going to be 15 baby tell me my baby genius can't figure out you're voting what i yeah i do think it's like i'm just thinking of today's modern media like if i don't know let's just say riana because i don't know anything about modern music. If she's like, you know what I want to do? I want to change the voting age to 15 because of my weird

acquaintance who's 15 and always hanging out with me. I want her to vote. Everyone would be like, what the fuck is up with Rion? You know what I mean? Like, everyone would have a big problem with it. I guess that's really the issue here is this guy's on LSD all the time. Maybe there should be like a national conversation like, dude, Max Frost is like fucked in the head. Yeah, he's constantly impaired. He doesn't qualify.

to be a politician. He can't be president. He's constantly fucked up. And he's hanging out with babies, literal babies. Yeah. And Holbrook should drop him. But it's like he's become such a force of nature. Like all these kids are so obsessed with him.

Oh, yeah. He's a beacon of hope. It's a life of his own. Yeah. My favorite part about like this scene where they're having this summit at his like CASA, you know, is like all of these like stuff shirt, like old politicians are in this room. watching this debate happen and all the like hippies and jivers are like walking around and like hey man you're scared yet you're getting scared maybe you'll get cold feet and like like sneaking up behind people and like getting in their face and shit it's kind of like a scene out of the devil's

advocate yeah yeah you know it's like why you're tempted by our lifestyle the kid uh the 15 old kid is actually portrayed as a homosexual character because he wants to have sex with hal holbrook but it's one of those like 1960s things where we're not going to talk about it they're like well we got to get him laid man and the girl's like I do it and the kid's like I'd do it too and then everyone's like ha ha ha ha ha and then the scene's over

and you're like wait what are we trying to do yeah yeah we're all going to laugh about it and then never address it seriously ever again there is no this is we can't we can't win everyone's rights in the 60s everybody I'm sorry because the 60s you know we're worried about baby men votes you know

they weren't yet like that good about being open with your sexuality or other real progressive issues because there is an instance of the F word and not the fuck word. Yeah, oh yeah, it's like, you guys,

and everyone's laughing about it. Just having a big old laugh. So they have another concert and this is the best concert. Because the interstate gets shut down. It's like Woodstock, man. Well, Everyone's flocking to this concert, right?

And like the day before, whatever, like when that first concert had happened, Shelly Winters sees on the TV, like, oh, that kind of looks like our son who ran away after blowing up our car and destroying our house, you know? And so she turns it up and she, like, hears him singing. And she's like, that's our Johnny or, you know, whatever. So they go to the venue for, like, the next concert. And, like, Shelley Winters in this movie is. obnoxious. Like, she's just

constantly screaming and yelling. And this whole sequence is she's like, I'm his mother! I'm his mother! And she's trying to like get into the stadium and all this shit. She's like, they pay a ticket, like her and the husband get in. And this is a great blink and you miss it moment. But so they sit

down and they sit down in their seats in this auditorium and they're betwixt. This young this handsome little redheaded fella. Turns out to be a 1968, Gary Busey, just in a totally uncredited role. So, like, they

sit there and they watch this performance and this, like, I don't know what this guy is supposed to be. It's, like, sort of a Jim Morrison something, something. And he's more like Neil Diamond, if you, I mean, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah. And, like, he's singing and up on stage and they're playing

this song. And this is what I was talking about earlier. Shelly Winters is, like, watching him, and they do this really weird thing where they cut between, like, her like, looking up at him, like, in this awe moment and then flashing to her thinking about like when he was a baby and like a kid and then she's like no no no no no just watch him now don't think about him as a baby watch him now and like she's like weirdly falling in love with him as he's like singing on the stage

well she also gets herself all sexy for him like that's the thing she dives her hair she makes the husband get good looking like we're going to be young and hot they put a toupee on the husband. This leads to the biggest drop ball and the biggest question mark in the world of this movie. Pretty much. So, like, she's like, she tries to meet him. It's like the Beatles, obviously. She just

to, like, fight through teenage girls. And finally is like, oh, it's my mom, baby man. And he's like, oh, let's hang out. They all jump in the car and say, hey, mom, you can drive. We're all cool. And he's like trying to, you guys he's probably stoned out of his gourd. And they're driving. And like, I think they start fighting over the wheel because she wants to go

someplace and he wants to go someplace else. And she screaming the whole time. Not baby, man, we're going to In and Out Berger, man. And the car does a fucking barrel roll over a child. This kid who's just like playing in the front

lawn or something and gets killed and like he goes Max falls out of the car and is holding this kid in his arms like, I never want to see you again. And I'm like but what about the police? What about this kid's parents? What about the press? You just cost me a

vote, man. Yeah, I'd mean, like, this little baby man could have voted Max Frost 69, man. Look what you did to that little baby man. Again, Rihanna runs over, Rihanna's mom runs over a kid

and Rihanna's in the car. Her next album isn't selling so well. No, exactly. And, like, you're right, it's a drop ball because it's never brought up ever again. He just says, like, I never want to see you. Like, he's clutching this dead kid.

Shelly Winters is, like, kind of battered and bloody. Like, she crawls out of the car, too. and she's like just sitting there and then we like fade out and that's the last it's ever talked about but here's the thing is like who'd be the best at getting rid of a dead young boy

living young boys so his he probably has his legions cover it up for him right like APB old baby man out there I need your help but this movie's only like 94 minutes long like I can take

a few extra minutes for them to sort of explain the aftermath of that car accident. I need you to take that boy and put him on the train tracks. Way down, outskirts of town. It'll be like that movie. Stand by me that hasn't happened yet.

And I mean, we keep cutting back to like Hal Holbrook and Ed Beglin. They're all like stroking their beards wondering how to knock this guy off his pedestal. He's a fucking kid murderer. Like, look up the record. He's got drugs everywhere.

I'm sorry, that's my right. I got to go. Podcast over, everybody. but yeah exactly they're they're high up in government so obviously just call the police on them or whatever or you're high up in government what do i know about government they have assassins yep the CIA the FBI totally yeah you I mean and vaguely seniors a sitting senator or something in this I'm sure he gets one free shot I don't understand why they I mean you don't even need an assassin like you just have to bring this up like why was Ted Kennedy never president one word Chappaquittic.

Like, that's it. Like, it's like, you fucked up, Ted Kennedy, that you don't get to be president now. Like, that's how you stop that dude in his fucking tracks. It's like, oh, yeah, this guy who's, like, kind of clinging on to me politically, and he's trying to make all these weird things about kids voting. He fucking killed a kid in a car with his crazy-ass mother. I don't know who was driving. He says it was his mother.

Who gives a shit? Well, high on LSD. He wants kids to vote. What he's not telling you is he's the one killing kids. Or, where is Giancarlo? Esposito and the rest of the dudes from Malcolm X. You know what I mean? Like, when are they breaking into the church?

They're nowhere near it. So now, like, everything is in full swing now. Like, Holbrook has unfortunately, like, hitched his star to Max Frost and the Frost tones or whatever the name of his fucking band is. Well, that's the thing is. And he's

like really like a really tragic figure because he's the guy that made it all happen, man. If he didn't do this, if you didn't court that young vote because they're like I think people even like kind of call them out on it like you only want kids to vote so kids will vote for you

and you know like that's obviously well yeah and also stupid idea this is I guess is the first real instance of a guy of politician having this stupid idea that the youth will vote right no youth ever votes

20 year olds don't vote 30 year olds don't vote He also, this is the first instance of rock the vote that I've ever heard. It's pretty much rock the vote. They say rock the vote in this movie? You got to rock the vote, babies. Oh, Jesus. So MTV saw this year's later.

They did, yeah. The entity, the being that is MTV. Do they say voter die in this movie? Maybe I missed it. Because that would also be like appropriate for what's going on in this movie for voter died to be invented there. Well, that kid died. He did not vote or die. He should have voted because he died instead.

Nothing happened. So Holbrook wins in like a landslide victory. Like you see him like in his car with his wife, you know, and he's like, oh, we have such cause for celebration. Like we didn't have to wait for the concession. Like it was such a fucking landslide. You know, everybody's getting laid tonight. Like it's all gravy for Hal Holbrook.

And he's got a 16-year-old kid and like two other younger kids who are kind of important, like a 10-year-old and maybe a 5-year-old girl, I think. Yeah, something like that. And, you know, so now, like, he thinks it's like, that's it. Like, that's great. Like, now we're off. And, but Max Frost, like, has his own ideas. You know, he's really pushing for this.

Like, he wants his little baby accountant to be able to vote at 14. So he starts, like, you know, trying to figure out, like, what can they do? What can they do? And it's, it's this really crucial moment where Hal Holbrook's son, like, gets in a fight with him. Yeah. Right. And, like, he slaps him in the face. And so the kid runs off to Max Frost.

And he, like, it's this awkward thing where, again, they're all sleeping on a pile of pillows and coats and like this kid walks in like in the middle of the night and they all start beating the shit out of him because they think he's like an intruder or something but so he divulges this information where he's like hey man you know this congress

this congressman like in your district just died he was like this 80 year old nothing you know and you know it's like they got to have a special vote to like a special election to replace him you know so like right now you can't get elected to office unless you're

25. Do you know anyone in the circle of entourage-esque friends that's 25? And that's like his ex-lady friend or whatever, the organ player from the band. Sally. Sally turns out to be 25. So they like, again, nothing you really see. There's no like campaign

scenes, but all of a sudden magically they take their same like, you know, youth popular vote and push the energy towards Sally. Sally gets elected to Congress. And now all of a sudden there's like a hippie in the house. man. Oh man, they're going to freak

out a bunch of them squares. She comes in with a tambourine, just fucking scaring people. Well, yeah, I mean the fake history and the real history of California was ruined by special elections. That's true.

That's a good point. To get some ill-equipped celebrity in the office. So, like, Sally's in there now. And, like, this is what doesn't make any sense is she, there's just a scene. she's just a congress she's just one congressman and she's in like the you know they're in they're in the chambers and she's like so here's my demands baby gents and she starts just like reeling off like you only have to be uh you know like 14 to get elected to congress you only need to be 14 to be a governor 14 to be president right and like all these hippies are like up in the in the in the you know the gallery space like hootin and hollering i was like how is this all getting passed there's one of her one vote against everyone and then like dozens of other old fuckers well no isn't this when we

start putting acid in people's drinks is that oh oh yeah you're right i forgot one of the most ludicrous parts of this movie she she basically puts it into like a bill and she's this is about bill baby this is what's going to happen you're right well that'll never get cast and like we don't have to be high on lSD for that to happen someone summon up ed begley and he just soars in Did someone call me? Like Charles Dance at the end of Golden Child? He's fucking cue the winging serpent. I was just eating my bloody oatmeal.

I'm not cursing like a British person. I was blood in my oatmeal. Baby blood. Baby blood. That's why I'm against babies in the White House. There won't be a baby at sea. 1,600 Pennsylvania Avenue Not while I'm in charge.

If a baby's in the White House, I can't drink its blood. And I want all baby blood. How do you think I survive? I live another day by that baby blood. I am Lestat the vampire. No, that's Hell Holbrook. Oh, right.

We're mixing up our monsters here. What was Antonio Banderas' name in that movie? I don't know. He was the sexy vampire. Oh, he's the sexiest of all vampires. Like at Bagelage, Senior. That's right, I am a sexy vampire. Because all vampires are sexy, right?

Every last one of them. Transmitive properties. So, right. So again, we're back up at this CASA, man, just fucking dropping tabs, going for a dip in the pool, trying to figure out what we're going to do. And they come up with the idea to taint

the entire water supply of why, Washington, D.C. Well, politicians would have to be in D.C. for this to happen, huh? Wow. Man, you know what's funny? It sounds terrifying to me to taint the D.C. water supply. Yeah.

Because, I mean, it's a circus. You wouldn't want to go to the circus on LSD. See a bunch of those clowns in Washington? Those big-shoed clowns. This may be our most political. episode yet, but this is the stupidest thing ever because the way they taint the water supply is just a

shot of Max Frost holding a jug for this liquid LSD that he just hucks into a swamp or something. Jug and all. It's so like he takes special care to like unscrew the top and he's like, okay, I'm going to put the top down. Thank you. And

huck! In goes the whole jug and they're like, what's awesome? He's like, yeah man, you got to get the word out to all our babies to get out of the city that day. Don't drink any of the water. That's just for all the old squares. Cut to like this. But why wouldn't they drink the water? Isn't that what they

do? Yeah, why would they have a problem with it? You're right. And maybe it's too much for our babies to take. They are just little babies after all. Don't tell them this man, but there is a difference between a 14-year-old's body and metabolism and that of an adult man. I just want their vote.

I want the power. Cut to Hal Holbrook doing his best poisoned Kirk impression. Like that strained walking where I have to just kind of, oh, yeah, it's a clear Hal Holbrook doesn't know what happens when you're on acid. He's walking around like, they're moving the camera, right? Because the ship's out of whack. Yeah, exactly.

So in this scene, I'm supposed to act like I'm on the high seas. Is that correct? Okay. That's what getting high is, right? Yeah, he's just grabbing all sorts of chairs and walls. Yeah, it's like Spock just hammer punched him in the back. And he's like, oh, I can't get from here to there. So they were that fucked up.

And somehow the vote went to the floor. Yep. Uh-huh. And the police were nowhere to be found, FY. No, there's no security. Not at all. That's what most of this movie, by the way, it pretends like political security isn't a thing at any point. It also pretends like the actual voting on laws matter because, you know, it's not like, well, sorry, you voted on it.

That means it's law forever. Yeah, exactly. I mean, when you sober up, you're going to be like, what the fuck is this chicken shit scribble? Fuck this. And you toss it out of the window. And there's a fucking president that could just veto that shit anyway. Exactly.

So they get this thing passed and then all of a sudden, like, kids can be president. Because right, that's what everybody loves. We love that little kid president who's like a YouTube sensation. We would just love it if there was a kid in the White House. Hold on a second. There's a little kid president. there's like a it's like an internet sensation there's just a little kid he's kind of like and he says he's the president it's like it's like oh if i was president i do this then he says

something cute and like you know snappy oh i get you he's like a hilarious child well guess what i'm not going to vote for these voter rights for these kids something like that some little sassy kid in the i i mean it's it's the same kind of thing right here's what it is it's like John Wilkes Booth. It's like, hey, kid, president, is there a law that you wouldn't veto? And he's like, I wouldn't veto chocolate pudding. I'd be like, oh, thank you, kid president. Like, that's what kid president is.

Okay, I take it back. So anyway, next thing we know, Max Frost is now launching a campaign to be president. Yep, because I guess it's November and I guess it's a presidential year. The timing is just, it's all working out for this weird LSD scam. And that's the thing is, it's not like years are past it because he's 24 in the beginning of this movie and he's 24 at the end of it very specifically. It makes no sense. Even though the actor's probably 32, but just yeah.

Can we just briefly talk about there's certain instances where we're just like, it's the landscape of Washington, D.C. And it's just like a translucent ghost-esque figure of Max Frost singing songs like doing his little routine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, because he's still a musician at heart. Yeah.

I mean, what I'm saying is he hasn't forgotten the music. No, no. It's very important. Well, that's what, you know, I would have loved if, you know, Reagan kept up acting while president, you know, like... That would have been something, right? One of these songs was, like, number 22 on the charts, and it was, like, obviously, like, none of these people did the music. Like, Richard Pryor certainly was not playing the drums.

So it was a bunch of, like, studio musicians. Yeah, this was like, this was a soundtrack film. Yeah. Yeah, this soundtrack album did sell. Yeah. Great. Another sign of the times, the shit music charted. And then here's something that means absolutely.

nothing to this movie, which is he runs as a Republican, and it's like, oh man, baby, I don't want to run as a Republican, but the Democrats hate my goods. Oh, yeah. Okay. And like, it doesn't do, like, there's nothing. Like, he doesn't have to do, like, it's not House of Cards where he's making, he's got to do

this deal to get that deal, and like, maybe he's going to take... No, they barely know what the difference is in this movie. Republican primary, where a lot of states only a Republican can vote. I guess you get enough baby men signing up as Republicans. Well, that's Don't forget, Eric, they are the 52%.

52% of the country's population is under 30. You know what else we can't forget? They are the future. But that's a great point, though. And that's something that I had a problem with. So I feel like if I was 14 and this shit was going on, I'd vote against this clown. You know what I mean?

Like, not all 14-year-olds are going to be into this. Some 14-year-olds, A, listen to their parents and B, like a lot of them do. You know what I mean? Counterculture wasn't every kid in the world. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's even in Hal Holbrook's own family, like the oldest son goes off and he joins Max Frost in his whole campaign or whatever. But then there's like the younger son who's like the logically thinking one.

He's like, but dad, like, you know, you and I, you know, we always, I guess they joke in the family like because the parents are so young that like the kids are like almost close enough to be siblings. Yeah. Yeah, right. Hal Holbrook. But like, so he's like, yeah, dad, like, you're my friend. But I understand that, you know, you're older than me. You're more experienced. Because he says, like, you know, like, you're a better fisherman than I am.

Because you've been doing it longer and shit like that. So there are, like, level-headed kids. So you're right. Like, not the entire 52% is going to be like, yeah, kid power. Exactly. So that means, like, let's say you get 40%. That means the other 60% is clearly going to vote against you because everyone's like, who the fuck is this clown?

You know? Like, this music sucks. I'm not going to vote for that guy because that's the other thing, right? It's 1968. Not everybody was listening to this fucking hippie psychedelia shit pop rock. No, absolutely not. The worst music of all time. You know, kids were listening to other things, too.

Yeah. And so you could even base it on that, like, oh, that guy that writes the terrible songs about stuff he was doing the day before. No, I don't want to vote for that guy to be president. Also, I'm 14 and I have literally no interest in voting, so I'm not going to show up. Yeah, I just love this. Like, it's the fear they're trying to strike in this movie only works under the assumption that, like, kids give a shit about politics. which they don't. Well, I mean, they're storming the Capitol.

They're running all over the steps. It looks like battleship of Temkin. Meets Kent State. Oh. A couple of kids get greased at some point because they're like doing a rally. And like, I think it's before they get the vote. And it's like before they figure out the great acid plan. Yeah.

And like the narrator's like, hello, everyone. I'm back. And by the way, there's a big rally. And it's going to go. Oh, my God. Here they go. And they're like, rush the staff. and they get fucking iced by like four or five cops.

And I'm like, oh, well, you know, that's, you're out of line. I mean, storming the Capitol building, you know. Shit's going to happen. This is also where he's like, he's like, they took four of us babies. They took four of our babies away. I was like, shut up, Max Frost. Again, you only care about it's four voters that were taken away. Oh, my God.

And there's a scene where, where Hal Holbrook's son confronts him. About, like, the politics of the time, right, man? They somehow just get to meet in, like, Capitol chambers. Right. No one else is around. And the sun has this line about, like, like, there won't ever be wars again. We know that. Like, not any big ones.

Like, you know, Vietnam is the be-all and end-all, and there won't ever be a war again because we've learned our lessons. Right, right, right. Well, they also, like, want to get foolishly. fucking idiot kids want to get rid of a foreign policy altogether. Which is awesome. They just want to be like, what, isolationist China? Like, what are they saying? In one narration line, once Max Frost wins the presidency, he disbands the military.

You know what? I don't think you get to do that as commander-in-chief. I know you're commander-in-chief, but I think if you're like, well, that's it, I'm getting rid of the army, navy, and Marines. Well, guess what? Now we have a military dictatorship because you're dead. I'm going to sign this little piece of blue paper and I'm going to mail it to the military and they're going to all go away.

I guess I don't know. The director of the CIA is the president now. Great. Where is the fucking crooked, cruel CIA that I've been looking for this whole movie? Yeah. Silver-haired black glasses. No smiles and terror.

Even the FBI, J. Edgar was bopping around. Do you see it this time? He would have fucking had all these kids on stretchers. Oh, yeah. They have some line about like, they're trying to figure out, like, What can we use against all these old bastards? And some dude says something about like, well, you know, man,

I bet Jay Edgar's got a bunch of stuff in his files. And it's like, oh, we're going to dig through, like, FBI files and use dirt, like, on people. Because Hoover's just going to turn that shit over to some pimply face 17-year-old kid. If there's enough pimply faced 17-year-old kids, he'll have no choice. Or maybe they'll, you know, do a little favor. A couple of favors? So he runs as a Republican, which means nothing. Like, you would think, like, you would have to make a deal.

Nothing. As if the rest of that national party, like, just didn't have anything to say about it. They're like, yeah, yeah, you can run as a Republican. That's fine. You'll be our, you'll be our presidential candidate. Fine. It's like letting fucking Jesse Camp run on your fucking ticket. Oh, my God.

We tried Mitt Romney. How about former MTV BJ Jesse Camp? That's what the kids want these days. They have a file from like 2003. They just take it, blow the dust off. Says here, Jesse Camps, our man. Opening case of youth emergencies. It says right here he's even more popular than Dave Holmes and Carson Daily.

I mean, sounds like presidential material to me. That's pretty popular. So, like, all presidents do the day after they get elected, right? because we all know how this works they give a state of the union address because that's just how this works right so like in the he's like well I was elected president

that's great cut to well it's time for the state of the union and he like walks in and all the all the hippies are back up in the gallery and it's like all these like grim-faced old men are just like how did we ever let this happen and he just starts talking all this

like shit and he's this is where he's like I'm disbanding the military. We're just giving away, like, hundreds of tons of free grain to third world countries. Right. Yeah, yeah. And I'm being impeached. Yeah. Like, all this shit. As if

we don't have checks and balances in place to destroy presidents like this. BT-dubs, I'm going to make relocation camps. When you're 30, you're mandatorily retired. Yep. When you're 35. Oh, I like the sound of this. We'd already be living in Florida. Oh, I didn't

think it happened, but I'm voting Republican. And when you're 35, you get sent to an education center baby Where you do LSD all the live long day They put you in a concentration camp Where they pump you full of LSD till you're a fucking zombie Against your will And you have to wear like these matching blue robes and stuff Now here's a thing I don't get

Is they say what when they're giving like the election results And they're like Max Frost has swept this country except and surprisingly the state of Hawaii and you're like that's weird what are you trying to say there I don't get that but then

in retaliation for him not taking that state President Max Frost is like oh and by the way that whole state of Hawaii they're just getting jacked with LSD right now 30 or not and they just turn like the state of Hawaii into like this weird LSD colony

speaking of wild in the streets, why aren't there riots in the street? Like, the second, like, first of all, all of your troops at this point would have to be under the age of 30. So I'm thinking everyone, the military is coming after you, the fucking Chicago Bears are coming after you. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, there are some big shovel off of your face. There's some big dudes over the age of 30 that's not going to take this too lightly. Yeah, totally. I mean, you disband a military. They got nothing else to do and they're ready to rumble. Oh, yeah, exactly. Like, you

get like a gaggle of pissed off Navy SEALs, they're coming for you, Max Frost. Don't think they're not coming for you. Speaking of coming for you, during this speech during his State of the Union, like Hal Holbrook just cannot stand it any longer. Oh, I love this.

And he just starts carefully like pulling this gun out of a desk drawer and I was like, oh, do it. Oh, make him a martyr. That's fine. As long as he's not in this movie anymore, I'm fine with it. But fucking jitter nerves has to take the gun out super slow he's got to look at the gun look at him look at him it's like come what to fucking do it you're coward just assassinate this president already you got

a fucking you got to jack ruby that son of a bitch it's got to be in your shirt yep you got to go up like you're about to shake his hand and then you go say hey oswald man man yeah exactly it's like you know like you maybe start up maybe get a little friendly with him you know it's just like i'm so glad i could introduce you to the world of politics it's going to be so great work side by side with you. I know I'm going to have to retire in six months. You know what you do? You hand him a little drink and you say, you know, we're not so different you and I. Yeah. And then you get them. It's in your shirt. It's not in your dresser. It's not. And right before you do it, you turn to the camera and you're like, he thinks that I'm his friend right now.

What he doesn't know will kill him. And then smile and then turn back to your conversation with him. That's how that's how politics works. Everybody's talking to cameras. I mean, Shelly Winters goes mad pretty quickly, right? Oh, she goes off the deep end. Well, because, I mean, like, she kills this kid, right? And they check in with her periodically throughout the movie because, I mean, really, it seems like a thing where, like, clearly she's the biggest star in the movie and that they just had to give her something to do. They had to justify her being in the movie, you know what I mean?

So they come back to her and she's like, oh, you know, on my son's advice, I'm all the way, I'm way into LSD now. and, like, you know, she's all hippied out herself. She's been seeing an LSD therapist, like, madmen. Yeah, exactly. Which is pretty great. And the dad is, like, a vegetable for some reason. He's just, like, smoking weed silently. Like, he can still move.

You know what if this was happening? I think you'd be doing the same. Yeah, no, I'd be really embarrassed. You just spoke a weed by yourself. My son did what? Yeah, no, I'm silently just token up. I'm sorry, we got to, we got to backtrack for a second and talk about this scene where Hal Holbrook goes mental on his family.

Oh, man. Oh, yeah. It is so fucking great. Oh, my God. Because when he was having that conversation with his son, his son ends up saying that that he's part of that alcoholic generation. Right. And that's like all their problems is because old people like alcohol,

they don't like LSD. That's what it stems from. Yeah, it's like you make all your decisions while you're fucking drunk. That's why we're in the position that we're in. So Hal Holbrook gets fucking piss-ass drunk. He'll show those kids. Proving his kid, right. stumbling around in one of the lines he says is we pour napalm on our own troops why because we're drunk

oh and he starts ripping some posters which is what i love it's i love what a dad is pissed off oh yeah there's not even there's not enough posters in this house for him to rip that's his problem tonight it's so awesome and it's like any poster with a picture of a person under 30 is coming down he starts ripping everything and then he has the drunken slurred line like, from now on you read nothing but Winnie the Pooh. Oh, yeah, he's yelling at like a four-year-old child. Or little women.

Read little women. He's like crying like, little women. You're going to read little women. You're going to stay young forever. And then his youngest son turns to him and goes, I hate you, Daddy. Oh, that stings. I think that's why he

wanted to kill what's his face. Yes, that's before the assassination. The fucking piss poor assassination, attempt. Can't even call it an assassination but he actually assassination thought he he runs off and yeah this guy's like fucking John

Hinckley with a fucking even slower hand you know what I mean well then like after that after the assassination attempt like he runs off and they're like he'll be back or like some shit like that and he like rounds up his family and like they go on the lamb for a little bit yeah they're totally caught like

instantly though they're tend to like a farm in the middle of the woods. They, like, have retreated from society. Yeah, they totally did. Which is where I would be. Oh, you'd have to. A real Ted Kaczynski situation. Until teenagers dressed as Nazi stormtroopers, basically.

Black hats with question marks on them, like they're in the Riddler's gang. A lot of this, I mean... Some of them have peace symbols, too. What's that about? Mixed messages. Just because of my skewered view of the 60s, a lot of this does look like the Batman, the old Batman show. Like, any of the fighting that's going on?

some of the LSD scenes. I'm like, where's fucking Frank Gorshian? It might have been the same fight choreographer. It probably was. Batman the show and Wild in the streets. Speaking of comics, apparently in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, there is a line or two about Max Frost

having been the U.S. president. Yes. So this is a shared universe with that Sean Connery movie, right? Yes, it is. Yeah. So in the world of Wild in the Streets, there exists a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hodge. James Bond

Captain Nemo Like they're all there dude They're all there They're all hanging out And they're all too old to live They're all somehow Well that's where they're in Europe right Or something

They're all terrified of the demon bet Ed Bagley That's something they don't really address though Except very briefly Because like the president's giving a press conference And just like any other politician Once he's in office He's flip-flopping on everything

Yeah. Because they're like, you know, Mr. President, there's a lot of people over 30 out there who are passing for under 30. And he's like, yeah, baby, but you know what? If they can pass, they must be cool, right? And they're like, okay, Mr. President. You know, and then like, they present him with like some other problem. And he's like, yeah, but if they're doing that, that probably means. Oh, that's, oh, that's what they do. They totally start invoking more fucking Holocaust shit because they're like, they're like, you know, Mr. President. There's a lot of people over 30 who have been hiding in attics. And he's like, yeah, but think about it this way. If they're hiding in an attic, they can't really harm this country, right, baby? And I'm like, no, dude, your platformers eradicate these people. Fucking step two. Get these people in the LSD camp that you promised. I'll see.

Just picturing you in Germany in the 30s or 40s. No, no, no, you said. Don't backpedal now, Hitler Look, we're either doing this or we're not doing this I'm not even saying I'm for it I'm just for sticking to our guns Last Tuesday you said we would No this back and forth horse shit Hitler

You're either in or you're out God that Adolf man He's such a flip flopper I'm just imagining like You yelling at Hitler Hitler has his finger on his lips Like I don't know It sounds like such a hot idea.

That's right. The devil on Adolf Hitler's shoulder was Andrew. Yep. I buy it. Fair enough. Oh, so also Hal Holbrook is lynched. Yep. Oh, yeah.

That's what happened. I think he kills himself, does he? Yeah, I think he gets, him and his family get put into the concentration camp and they get all hopped up on LSD and he's got some really weird looks in his eye. And then he's hung himself. I thought they were like because you attempt to do assassinate President Kool. You're going up.

President Kool. Hey, baby, man. Just call me President Kool. Well, so he's dead. And like, we're, the movie is like essentially over. There's no real like, ending to this movie.

There's some world events going on, you know, because what is going on in the world? Mexico, Canada, and Cuba are all predicted to fall in their own teen revolutions. Of course. Right.

Russia. The Soviet Union comes apart. Thanks to Max Frost. And his fucking song. It's the song. They say something about like his song, 52% has been like at the top of the Soviet charts. Yeah.

And the curtain comes down. How do you fuck they let that shit in? But also, now let's get really racist for a moment. Oh, no. We haven't really been there yet. This is, I mean, we didn't say the homophobic line. I know, but what is going on in red China? Well, first of all, let's call it Red China, because that's okay.

Yeah. So. You're not wrong. Apparently, the teen youth movement there has started to take up this slogan. We don't want to be no yellow peril. It just, you know. They're describing themselves as yellow peril. I said before, this movie was written by someone who was born in the 1920s.

Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah. That's why that's there. It's because it's also based on his short story that he wrote after being born in the 1920s. He's like to have after being. What are Asian people like to call themselves? Oh, probably the stuff I used to say in the war

to my service buddies. Probably that's enough. That's how they identify. I mean, the thing is, and that's the point, that this was a bad short story, and you could tell. And it's like reading a bad shouts and murmurs where you're just like, oh, is this really a full page? Shouts and murmurs can be amazing.

Yeah. But when you get a bad shouts and murmurs, I want to throw the whole magazine on the garbage. So, yeah, this was based on a short story. Yes, it was. That was also expanded into a book, apparently. Right. And then a movie.

All written by a guy who was born sometime in the 1920s. And the thing is, my big beef is you know a punchline is coming. And I hate this in movies. I hate, like, when you're just waiting, you're just turning the pages. You're tapping your foot at this point.

But then what's the kicker? I know we're not building towards a climax. We're not building towards a resolution. We are building towards a punchline. Yeah. And with this kind of material, you could smell it coming a mile away. And it comes right after this. And before we get to it, one thing, speaking of racism, you remind me, one of the other things that they say when they're interviewing this president and he's talking about the addicts.

Yeah. They're also like, Mr. President, do you have anything to comment on the creation of, shall we say, underground railroads? like, oh, born sometime in the 1920s, this guy. Just shut up. And Shelley Winters goes, and she has her own horrific. Oh, yes, she does. I'm young, I'm young. She's being dragged away.

And then she's one joke line, I'm Aryan. Oh, does she? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh, wrong, wrong move. Holocaust, you get it yet? About fucking 40 years too late for that one. Well, at the end of the movie, right before the punchline comes, she's trying to climb out of the camp.

And she starts singing My Country Tiz of thee. And it's like, supposed to be, I guess, poignant and horrific, but it's just sad. And, like, they pull her down off, like, the razor wire, and she's got, like, you see her, like, bloody hand fall back into the camp. That's what you get for smoking your drugs and listening to your music and not doing your fucking homework. But it's certainly not punishment for running a child over with that car, because we've totally forgotten about that. So President Cool Eradicates the Secret Service And he's like driving in a convertible

And they have this line Like it's the guy comes back from You know He got done narrating hamburgers and you Like he comes back and he's like Now the president President Cool Has eradicated the Secret Service

Allowing him to move much more freely And coolly throughout the country And he pulls over Yes Chrysler cars Yeah, baby, man, I like the way it handles. He pulls over, there's like a dock or some shit. Well, before this, there's this weird scene where he's putting a kid to bed. I guess he either has children's.

He's at some squat somewhere, even though he's the president. Sleeping on pillows and blankets, man. They do make reference earlier in the movie to, like, they're like, oh, man, how many kids do you have? And he's like, two I'm responsible for, but that doesn't mean it's only two, baby. so it's one of question mark number of children so he's like trying to get his son to bed and his kid's like I don't want to fucking go to sleep and he's like you know you know you got to baby because I told you too and it's like you know what does the kid say how does it go I don't remember what the kid says is this the yeah well he's like well how old oh yeah he's like how old are you and he's like I'm 24

baby the coolest age there is that's old and he's that's old but my god you call me and he gets all flustered and that's why he's got to go for this drive yeah he's going for a drive right so he's got to go clear my head yeah so he pulls over

because the president can just pull over like he pulls over right and there's like a doc or some shit the most hated president in history BT does yes absolutely it's like a shitty weird pond yeah and he like he pulls up like a bait thing and there's a little like crawfish

and like he puts that like crawfish bites him and he's like oh yeah crawfish well i'm 24 years old and he steps on it and kills it and then these kids come out and they're like what the fuck did you do that for like that was our pet that was our crawdad you know his name's harry or whatever like why did you do that and the whole time he's having these flashbacks of like you're old it's like they keep just superimposing the kid that's old that's all that that that's all and he's like going mad just thinking What did he say to these kids? What are you going to do about it?

And they're, you know, I don't remember what they say in response to that. But then he's like, he like walks away. Or that's, I think that's what it is. He's like, what are you going to do about it? That's what I thought, nothing. And he gets back in the president mobile and speeds away. And then the kid, like there's like a gaggle little kids. And he's like, oh, man, old people or something like that.

And he's like, what is it? It's like, it turns to the kid. camera. And he goes, we're going to put everyone over 10 out of business. Oh, out of business. That's what it is. You ain't big enough to beat me up, I'm. And then apparently the sequel to this movie is the country becomes the town from children of the corn. Because I guess so

And that's the end of it Everybody needs a fucking science class That understands how aging works You're 10 now You're gonna be 14 and four fucking years Well I mean 24 you're gonna be 30 And six goddamn fucking years That's forever man

That is forever baby But 18 Gonna give the vote at 18 What's next 14? Oh oh might as well be 10 years old They might as well marry goats Oh if we're gonna give the gays the right to vote We might as well

Gays the right to get married They might have sex with children and goats and zygote the vote. Zygote to the vote. This 10-year-old's going to marry a goat. But I guess that's okay under President Cool. I guess I'm just so lame. I'm going to take my gargoyle wings and go get them clean. He just flies off.

Eddie Murphy's after my idol. And then when Eddie Murphy finally shows up and defeats Ed Bagley, Sr. And he turns back into a stone gargoyle, great ending. Oh, it's a great ending. It would be much better than the ending of the movie, which we have just described to you. And then there's like, an American flag just comes up on the screen,

and, like, each actor's face is where, like, the stars should be. I mean, I was hoping for a big red text that says, do you get it? Just to be like, it's propaganda, man, and not even the cool kind. It's, like, so poorly done and so clearly over the top that it doesn't, I mean, I'm trying to, like, Okay, something like Reefer Madness, right?

That's also over the top, hilarious fucking propaganda. But I guess the difference is, I'm wondering if the difference is, because like with Reefer Madness, it worked, one, which is insane. But it worked and it made people fear marijuana. But did this movie, like, work the same? Like, were people scared of like, oh, maybe we shouldn't give 18-year-olds the vote? Maybe it should be 21 for no reason. I don't think people. You don't think anybody was, like, seeing this movie, like, oh, my goodness.

Maybe two people. One of them was Ed Begley, Sr. I told you. Yeah, I just can't see anyone taking this series. Dad, I can't wait to be in movies. Get back in there, Egg Begley, Jr. Whatever you say. His time was right around the corner.

It was, yeah. 70s, he sprung those wings. This acting wings. Those baby bat wings. Because he would be part gargoyle by our math. Oh man and that's that's this movie like what an insane piece of like confused propaganda like if you're going to try to like use bullshit to scare people do it right yeah don't make wild in the streets should have gone back to that horror movie narrations more shelly winters i died in a concentration gap because you made me have that boy well that's yeah i mean i kind of figured the ending would be like her horrific end Like, you know what I mean?

Like, not this sort of, he kind of did the math and realized he would be 30 pretty fucking soon. Right. What an asshole, man. Seriously. It's, it just, like, yeah, it makes no sense. You know, by a fucking calendar? You know how this movie should end, by the way?

Is much like how the Omen ends, where Gregory Peck is racing to murder a child in a church. Oh, yeah. It should be on Shelley Winters to be like, I created this monster. I have to put a stop to it and then it's like this woman assassinating her president cool son

Like that's how you do it right Like he's giving You know maybe it's like four days after he was elected So he's gonna give his 100 days progress report Because that's how we work the president's timeline in this movie So he's like giving that like my first hundred days And he's like assassinated like right there Just getting it out of the way

And like that's the end of the movie And it's like maybe that'd be cool Or if like Richard Pryor has been secretly 29 this whole time like he didn't tell anybody because he's hanging out with his young friends and he's like oh fuck it's gonna come to light I'm gonna go to one of those camps I better shut this shit down

that's what see that's what you needed in this movie a scene where one of the gang yes like the entourage has the 30th birthday and it's like but guys I've been with you like from Jump Street like come on like you know we're friends sorry man you aged

out like a real fucking Logan's run situation right then Richard Pryor's like running for his life because he doesn't want to be hepped up on LSD in a fucking camp. I think the movie should have ended with the military doing a coup taking over to be like if you don't understand you kids

there's robots from outer space coming down. Because why not? At this point it's and then you could end the movie because you're trying to create this big propaganda piece being like if 18 year olds get the right to vote alien robots will come

from outer space and take over the world. What's next? Are you going to have a robot vote? Do you really want a robot to vote? Oh, I don't even want to get into robot rights, man. That's a whole other jar worms. Would anybody recommend Wilde in the streets? I wouldn't. I mean, I think it's a cultural artifact for sure. It's definitely interesting in a lot of ways of like what people were afraid of and like what they also weren't ready to combat. Like the civil rights movement isn't it all talked about like the real important 60 stuff you think of? about like what hippies actually got done or helped get done at the very least

is never broached. But you know, it's just, it's kind of a slog for me because you get, you get really ahead of this movie really fast. You know exactly where it's going. You're waiting for the punchline. You have an idea what the punchline is and then it just sort of happens. Yeah. Well, Steve is wrong. Sure. Everyone should

see this movie. Especially you baby babies have there. But it's just so, I think it's just the seeing is believing just because it's just so insane of a premise. I guess I'm kind of like split down the middle because like I agree with Steve where it's like you just you know what this is

but at the same time like those sequences where they're lazily poisoning the water supply and things like that I'd say you should watch this movie but like I've said this entire episode be prepared for some of the worst music you've ever heard in your life this is some of hands down the worst music

I've heard in a movie oh and I just realized if you're listening to this on the day it's released November 4th get out and vote Yep. Rock that vote. Rock that vote. All my babies. All you 14-year-olds. I don't think 14-year-olds should listen to the show, FYI.

Yeah, no. Turn this off, wash up, and go to bed. But, hey, man, if you're of age to vote, man, find the coolest candidate you can, man. And just throw it behind them, man. That's Wild in the Streets from 1968, directed by Barry Shear. If you want more information about We Hate Movies,

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