We Hate Movies - S5 Ep210: Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

Episode Date: June 30, 2015

Our Summer Blockbuster Extravaganza rolls on as we take a look at a pretty silly sequel, 2003's Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines! How lame is it to have Sarah Connor die from leukemia instead of going out in a blaze of glory like she deserves to? What's with all the lame comedy - including "Talk to the hand!" - peppered throughout this film? And how did we not figure out a way to get Robert Patrick in this movie? PLUS: Give it a rest with that boob joke! Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines stars Arnold Schwarzenegger, Claire Danes, Nick Stahl and Kristanna Loken; directed by Jonathan Mostow. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

Hello, I'm Andrew Jupin. Chris Cabin. Eric Siska. Steven Seda. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies on the Sideshow Network. Thank you for tuning in.

As always, welcome to another week of hashtag SBE 2015. We're talking about Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines, from 2003, directed by Jonathan Moss now. Dum, dum, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. These machines, the rising, the rising. Oh, the rise of the machine, rise, apes and machines, rise. This is a Bruce Springsteen song, right? Oh, and then the machine You're coming

Terminators had a homecoming In Harlem late last night This is She could change the size of a presence Because she's my Terminator girl This is the movie that Arnold Schwarzenegger made Right before taking office As the governor

Yeah One last ride One last ride One last ride Oste la Vista One last time before he ran California right into the ground.

Oh, absolutely. He left to where he found it. So, yeah, here's my question. It seems like a lot of times with these movies, especially in the summer blockbuster extravaganza. Yeah. It's kind of cut and dry like everybody saw the lost

world. Nobody saw a son of the mask. I mean, did everybody go see Terminator 3? I didn't see it until DVD. I was just sort of, I was sort of, I was sort of done with it. And I remain kind of done with the Terminator franchise. I unfortunately saw

this in theaters. I saw it in theaters too. I saw it in theaters as well and I will say for a long time I read one of my favorite film critics and this is embarrassing as how it was Peter Travers from Rolling Stone. You used to love Peter Travers. This was the breaking point.

He recommended this movie I went to the theater to see it and I immediately was like, this is fucking bullshit. And I was like, oh, so he's just a crazy idiot. Okay. What, Peter Travers? Yeah, he's just a crazy.

You burned up your fan club. Oh, yeah, everything. I canceled my subscription to Rolling Stone. Well, what can you say about a dude who sums up a movie with like eight sentences? All of which are supposed to be at a poster. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Poster critic, totally.

Right? Like Richard Carles. Oh, Richard Corliss. RIP. But he was a great film critic. Yeah. kind of the guy we knew we knew a guy he can write about movies

we got theater it's all sands in an hourglass uh speaking of like sands in the hourglass so does james cameron not give a shit about this movie not involved no in any capacity you gotta check though for the characters

oh of course yeah i mean that's how you do that yeah there's license that shit out why would you want to be involved no and every single terminator movie since after t2 has just been regurgit I think, and I mean, we don't have to get into it right now, but I think Terminator Salvation is way worse than this movie. It's possible? I disagree, but I know it's a very

close call. It's right down to the wire. I will never see that movie again until you say, hey man, let's do Terminator Salvation. I think I'm in that boat. I saw that in the theaters, too. I was with you. Yeah. So one of the biggest problems, I think this is an interesting enough place to start. The problem with this movie, just like Terminator Salvation, we're putting a whole lot of stock in John Connor and not much interest in the Terminator. Who gives

a flying fuck about John Connor? Or Sarah Connor. And I think did Linda Hamilton turn it down. She did turn it down, I think. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So she was going to be a character. She's like, nah. She appears

in voice recordings that are alternate recordings of tapes she made in previous movies. She came back to re-record stuff for this movie. Oh, did she really? Yes. Oh, oh, wait. Nope. I'm totally sorry. That's Terminator Salvation. Okay. Watching them all two together. I know. I watched the whole

franchise before we did this episode. You said alternate versions of tapes. I just imagined like Linda Hamilton and James Cameron going to the big pink house in Woodstock and recording alternate Terminator takes in like 1991.

Levon Helms helping out. Technically, Big Pink is in West Sogerties, I believe. I apologize. And you got Robbie Robertson with the levels trying to make sure it's all right. Well, yeah. If Robbie Robertson was involved, you would get something as shitty as fucking Terminator 3, that scumbag. Fuck that guy, dude. Yeah, no, he was dragging him down.

So, yeah, so we focus on Nick Stahl, who is replacing Eddie Furlong, who was not asked back for recreational reasons. Drug raisins. Yeah. Also, like, when Edward Ferlund went on drugs, he kind of bequeathed his career to Norman Redis. He was like, here you go. You can run with this. It was like, sorry, I'm too strung out for Blade 2.

It's all yours. Wait, okay. I'm going to give this McCut. Oh, he's got, okay, he's got a problem too. Okay. Maybe Brad Retnow. Oh, definitely not. Okay, fine.

Norman, you got it. But is this, is the role of John Connor cursed? Because then Nick Stahl had some problems. You're totally right. I mean, Christian Bale's still fine. No, he's got a problem. He's fine so long as you stay away from his fucking lights, all right? Yes.

Speaking of Terminator Salvation, that's where that movie came up. Or you don't happen to be his mother. So we start the movie with like an aged Nick Stahl because we're in the future and we're showing like, you know, the genius that is the revolutionary, the savior, John Conner. It's got the scar down the face, the whole thing. And the problem with this, and I think Terminator Salvation, too, I don't really remember,

is, like, when do I get to see John Connor, like, be great? Because he's never great in anything. Oh, man, you better wait for it, because here comes John fucking Connor. Yeah, I mean, that's what I think the Terminator Salvation movie was supposed to be. But if that's just him, like, running out of pond. Yeah. Like, it's just really him yelling at people. And running out of ponds away from, like,

robot snakes and stuff. I've seen it in a while, but there's robot snakes. There's out and out robot snakes in that movie a couple of times. But yeah, like, there's no, like, he's never like, you always see like flashed. He's never like in command, like saying, line those robots up and execute him. Right, because we'll in Terminator Salvation, he's he hasn't yet become the leader of whatever. Next time, baby. It's always next time, baby. Because especially in salvation, he's like answering to some other. hog who's barking orders and we're not, from the trailers doesn't seem like we're going to get that in part five. Oh no, no, no, no.

Part five, man. Terminator Sega Genesis? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, we'll see. Terminator Sonic the Hedgehog. Oh, yep. A robotic Sonic the Hedgehog. I will terminate you Sonic. I actually would like these movies better if Dr. Robotnik

made all the Terminator. Oh, wow. That's a great idea. That is a great fucking idea. You kill the Terminator. to a bunch of little chicks pop out. All sorts of bunnies. You got John Goodman and a big mustache and a big thing hovering above everybody. The role he was born to play.

You're goddamn right. You're goddamn right. So yeah, it's John Connor in the future and he's like, oh yeah, by the way, I have all these flashes from the future for some reason. But it didn't happen because we stopped Judgment Day. Now I'm a weird drifter. And I kind of just work here and there

and have nice clothes. And look, he's a weird drifter that's off the grid In quotation marks In California Like go off the fucking grid Dude, go to Nevada and figure that shit out Leave L.A. I think he's like being paid under the table

Using a pseudonym He's trying to keep himself out of the light Right, it's like rowdy, Roddy Piper And they live Like he's going from town to town Getting these off the books construction jobs Sure. Except he's not going town to town He's still just living in L.A.

But he's just on the streets Yeah, like go anywhere else leave the state of California he had such potential at this point he's got to be hoping for judgment day he is hoping for judgment day you're right because he's just like a loser like he's not

and like he keeps later in the movie he's like oh man what would you do if like you knew you were about do all this great stuff but a billion people have to die for it to happen yeah it's like dude that's weird it's like you know what dude like if you're sitting around like waiting for your band to sign to a record label but a billion people have to die

for it like you're never signing that label like sorry john connor you're not going to be the revolutionary figure that the terminator thought you were going to be just continued to be drinking bud wiser beer on your break because that was the first one and it starts this whole fucking thing there's so much product placement in this movie it's unbelievable but it'd be like he just tosses a bud wiser down and then we flash back to the skulls oh that's right because hello skulls i'm going to run over all these skulls and my big tank in the future. They just love stepping on skulls.

It's at the point where they're taking bodies out of the graveyard, throwing them on the ground and say, let's step on this. Dude, that's what they did in Paltargeist. Yeah. In that first Poultergeist movie, they got real skeletons. Do you think they're using ghost powers? Like the robots are creating like... A ghost army?

Yeah, dark magic combines with dark machinery. That's what we don't have. in like the future of the Terminator movies and I feel you need it is like mysticism clashing with technology. Yeah. Oh yeah. John Connor using a Ouija board. Get a couple of paladins in there.

I don't know. We'll see what happens. A gin or two. Mix it up. Well, the weird thing is that the robots. Why are all of the Terminators and all of the, most of the robots built like Skellington?

It's like scary Skellingtons. That's not a really efficient killing machine. And also, like, having a robot that, like, has human flesh, you spend all this money on this thing and it can't do anything other than talk like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you're not really tricking anybody. If I'm like, hello, you know that they're all robots, right? I'm totally not one of them. I would just go. I'm your friend Joe.

Yes, I am Joe. Build giant robot spiders. Yes. And unleash them on the land. You don't even if you had just built a bunch of the flying drones. motherfuckers, the entire world would have been fucking wiped out immediately. Cabin's bringing up a great point. I think where we've

surpassed this robot technology, we have drones now. That's all you need. That's the thing I do remember is at the end of it, when the drone when Nick Stahl does find the drone thing in, not in gen, I was thinking in Jen. Skynet. Skynet. Yes. In Skynet, when the drone, when he finds the, I was like, oh, those are like everywhere now. Yeah. Yep. We're on our way.

Trust me, Chris Cabin. We're on our way to Judgment Day. Don't worry about it. So he's a drifter. Claire Daines is getting married to some loser guy. And he's a good, your classic movie, Judge. Jimmy Peckish. Like, it's just such a loser character.

And you wonder why the character doesn't have any presents. I'm sure he's really fun. And he's probably a good listener. Oh, he's a great listener. That much I know. It's clear, though, that she's not super psyched about marrying this guy. and it's like something something hey dad you got to meet this guy we're getting married and the dad is like a big so-and-so in the government and he's like not today honey because conspiracy theories also dad get that grill a going because i got some dead meat here yeah yep no exactly right but she's got some weird joystowit bob in this movie that i'm not thrilled with her haircut she's trying to be hillary clinton like it's not a nice it's not a young woman's hairstyle it's certainly not a young woman in 2003 is her hairstyle when I guess this movie is supposed to take place. Sure. 2003, right?

It's a weird haircut. It's a weird haircut. Didn't work for him. No. So, you know, long story short, they cross paths because why is it he's injured at the beginning of this movie? He falls off his bike because he's going so fast. Oh, right. Yeah, he's a big motorcycle dude. That is a cool way to get injured. So he gets injured and he's off the grid, so he's got to go to a vet and a bunch of pain meds. And it's like, you, man, you're going to be dead in a week. Wow, man, life imitating art. Art imitating life as well.

Yeah, it's a whole thing because... It worked for Gary Busty. Why can't it work for me? Well, it's the curse of playing John Connor. Nick Stalls had some problems. Yeah, so, like, she is the vet tech that works at this clinic and whatnot. So, like, he breaks in there to take all these pills, and she, like, gets the alarm notification or whatever.

She has to go down there and figure it out And she finds this drifter in her office Can we talk about the arrival of both Terminators in this film? Yes So first, I think first is Christina Locan as T3 or TX TX or the Terminatorics Which people start saying for no reason But they don't say it in the movie

Who does? John Connor says Terminatorics at least once Does he? And I don't know why Because like she's credited as TX And Arnold is like TX all over the place Yes. So what, he's like, oh, hey there, it's the Terminatrix. Yeah. What the fuck for?

I mean, wait, like her, what is she a robot that has? You know, she fucking stomps on little, you know, gerbils with her high heels. That's the thing. It's like, she comes out, she's naked. It's that all Terminators are. Yep. She steals some woman's clothes and car. And all of a sudden she starts using sexuality for no reason. Like, why didn't Arnold and Robert Patrick use sexuality? to get what they wanted. They're good-looking dudes. You know what I mean? Like Arnold wants to get some secrets. He's like, oh, hello, I'm seducing you.

Well, as we'll see, when his entrance happens, there's quite a lot of women who are interested in that. Let's briefly talk about TX's seduction, because it's weird because she doesn't even, it's half-hearted, I would say. She gets pulled over

and she gets... First of all, she sees a Victoria's Secret billboard and gives herself breast augmentation. Yes, she increases her bus size because she thinks like oh that's what men want in this plane of existence question she's a robot why would a robot

designed by other robots because don't forget everybody robots are begetting robots in this robots are designing Terminators yeah so why would a self-aware robot design a robot to look like

a lady and then give that robot functionality in where this robot can make her robot tits bigger. Don't. What fucking function? I'm going to tell you, it's the idea of like, oh, I'm going to seduce

this guy now, but in this scene when the cop comes over, she seemingly forgot that plan. She just killed him. Yeah, she's just like, she asks him like a pointed question that there's no seduction whatsoever and that's that. We're cutting. We're out of there. Well, here's the thing. Is that like

John Connor is running the resistance and you think that the robots are all you know, running themselves. But the real secret, the secret behind the curtain, Russ Meyer. Robo Russ Meyer. He's running the whole show. Russ Meyer's been doing all these robots. I see.

Big Adonis and, you know, female robots who can inflate their breasts. I see. Because no actors wanted to be in his movies anymore. He's like, I'll make them. I'll make them for I'm going to keep on making the movies. Make my actor sexier. Beyond the beyond the valley of the movies. DOS. Question. Is there

like a robot facility in the future where like whatever is happening, Russ Myers or sexually aware robots? Martin Cinemax or whomever. Yeah, are making these TXs and the T1s, which is what Arnold is, right?

A T-800. A T-800. T-101. T-101. Yeah. Excuse me. I see you looked under the hood. I told you. I just watched all four of these in like two days. Is Arnold and the Terminatrix like their other counterparts, their other clones, are they

screwing and stuff? Are they like figuring out, like making sure that they all work? No, because I feel like they're just sitting in the closet until they have to, you know, they're like, they have to go shelf. But before they go back in time, I would make them run through the hoops. Oh, just like make sure that dick works?

Yeah. Oh. That's what, you know, some starting inaction protocol. That's just what I'm interested in. Initiate sequence inaction. Well, so two things. A, she does the The inflation, I'll call it.

Yeah, it's a joke from a scary movie sequel. But like, it never, why would you do that setup and then not have the guy absolutely does not recognize it? Why isn't that cop like that? That's my point is why does that scene happen and there's no payoff to that? Yep.

Why is she making it? Because it's a cheap joke. We just want to have her inflated tits. That's all it is. She never uses her sexuality, which is fine, but it's also like, then why bother having her try to be sexy? Because we're making dumb jokes. And also, I think, I think Christina Locan is fine. She's had an okayish career, blood rain this and blood rate that.

But, like, she, I think out of all of the potential terminators that they were talking about for this movie, she's the worst. Number one on my list, China. China, she was being considered Schwarzenegger wanted her. Personally recommended. That's a movie I want. want to see Schwarzenegger v. China in 2003? Yep. The

country? No, the female Joni Lorer Shaquille O'Neill was mentioned? That's fucking terrible. I know it's going to be the worst movie, but I kind of want that. Vin Diesel would be fine. The diesel would be great. But I do think China

would also make more sense. I don't know. I mean, I don't know why you would need a gender determinator anyway, aside from having to blend in. However, like, I mean, those the exoskeletons of them aren't walking around with swinging cocks it's just to blend into society so then why not have

Joni Laura have China come in because you want a big strong fucking robot like you know what I mean Or just send Robocop Get Robocop down there I mean we always want But the thing about it is you don't need someone who looks like China

in order to have the idea that a robot can be strong You can have a little Rea Perlin robot It's a Terminator It's still gonna throw people That's an interesting idea. How about like a little kid robot murderer? Oh, murder is children.

That's what you want. That is not my protocol. But like the bigger problem is that she's just not a character. Like Robert Patrick as a T-1000 is clearly a character. He's doing stuff there. And like she's just kind of like a robot like, hi, I can do this. And like that's a problem. But a bigger problem, speaking of the genitalia issue,

sure yeah the several genitalia what i always and like it struck me the most in this situation when he does because arnold comes in his old-fashioned way he comes in the bubble the bubble looks pretty cool that they update the bubble i liked it they updated it i have a new bubble like they still made it look kind of shitty though because it's still like that grid looking like net thing yeah you have to break out of it still yeah it's cyrax had me imprisoned in this net so he walks up. He always, by the way, his coordinates are always like half a yard from a roadhouse. There's always a roadhouse not too far. Why is the Terminator never opting to dress like a substitute teacher? Yep. Why does he always have to dress like a badass biker dude? Well, because of the build. Find me a high school teacher with Arnold Schwarzenegger build.

You should go ahead and get the school teacher. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But here's the thing is he, so he goes, he comes to Earth, he finds the roadhouse surprise oh good the strategic roadhouse safe house oh this is all of a madica it's just these so he walks in before roughing up the guy who you know mc gainy's in this yeah he's the bouncer right yeah yeah he's great so he loves mc gainy he walks in and like clearly he has a cock yeah because all the girls are just like whoa oh you're woohoo and a he hon at this Austrian ding-dong. My cock is a learning computer. Why would you bother? Like, I'm sorry.

Like, at the end of the day, why does that need to be, like, what does it look like? Because imagine the sheer terror if like this like genitalia-less thing just walks in. Like, at least when he walks into the bar, and it's the same with Robert Patrick, everyone is

distracted by the genitalia. And it's not a fear sense. It's like, look at that day. Which is what the tit-inflation. should have done, but it didn't. And by the way, why are we remaking the scene from T2 that's at this point iconic? Because we

don't give a fuck. We just want this. We're making it, but it's funnier this time. A lot of comedy in this movie. So he goes in, he looks at MC Ganey, you know, he does the thing for the first movie. He's not a match. Even though I think he could fit it. They'll be baggy clothes.

It'll be fine. You're fitting. Like, you're going to look like you're dressed like the undertaker, but you're fitting into it. no match. He goes in and he sees a woman that's like similar stature and he does the same thing and it says inappropriate which is... No, he does that specifically

with a fat chick. Yeah, you're totally right. I cannot wear these fat chick's clothing. It's ridiculous. Like, what what robot protocol is there? Who are you to say what's appropriate and not appropriate robot? The subject of fucking idea. Well, the robot knows

the robot knows that it's going going back to 2003. Okay? Like, it knows. It knows George Bush is in the White House. I would kind of rather, if the fucking screen flashed, no fat chicks, no fat chicks. And like, if that was the thing, fucking fine, but inappropriate. Well, it's like, just because some robot made him in a man's body, that doesn't mean he's a man.

Maybe he's got different ideas. But it knows as a robot, again, to fit into society, this is the game you have to play. It's stupid. And then, of course, it's a fucking, I guess it's a ladies night at a male strip club. We get a super stereotypical gay guy stripper. Oh, yeah. Who says talk to the hand and all sorts of sassy things before he gets murdered. Yeah, Arnold walks up to him and is like, take off your clothes.

And he's like, I'll get to it, sweetheart. Yeah, it's like, wait, your turn, bitch. And all this stuff. And every fucking redneck in the audience claps. Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And then so he just like he haws this dude. through a wall and takes his

village people costume. By the way, so he says, talk to the hand, does Arnold Schwarzenegger in response say what's a-ha-ha-ha-ha. No, but he does just say talk to the hand later on in the film. Oh, thank God. So he gets out and it's like, oh, you get that same Terminator-Shod, boots to

face. And for some reason this robot loves, this model of robot loves sunglasses. Yep. Which makes no sense whatsoever. Yeah. Is there actual glare that affects his like neural optic, whatever the fuck? Nope. absolutely not it's like and here comes a big gag he pulls out sunglasses and it's not cool Arnold Schwarzenegger sunglasses yeah yeah but it's good good gay guy sunglasses yeah it's like

elton john sunglasses why would this guy wear these you know why would that guy have those it doesn't fit with the costume yeah in your stripper costume not even in your day to day but the stripper costume like that's not going together you wouldn't have those in that pocket a lasso of some sort but other than that a lasso so I'm I mean, you know, he's coming to town and he's looking for what you think. He's looking for John Connor. That's what he was. Right, yeah.

And so here we are. We're back at this veterinary office. And Nick Stahl is apparently taken a bunch of drugs that they used to chemically castrate dogs. Yeah. I don't know what exactly. They don't really get into what the end point of that was. There is not enough attention to detail as to as far as how day. dangerous that is like and i understand he's you know he's out on the streets he's a drug addict but

like how what kind of high are you getting from dog well why don't you find out i go down to the vet and just are you not cool enough i guess i'm not i guess it should be because claire dains is like how much of this did you take and he's like enough which one as if he's done this before yeah but too like how do how do you know what enough enough of what but but really enough of what yeah well on the street we call it canine and it's a pretty fucking pretty fucking nice you just smash it up and you snorted it's really it's a gag she does it to distract him so she could because like she's oh it's not real medicine no she's like because he's taking painkillers she looks at it she's like oh this is like

the chemically castrate dogs is like fucking no way and she's like here catch and then she like disarms him and oh i see so it wasn't actually that No, I don't. There was a ruse. It was a cunning ruse. Oh, I fell for it. So then she puts him in a cage. And then she's like, she's like, hey, you look like John Connor, but not really because you're Nick Stahl and not Edward Furlong. But you look like, we made out at somebody's party in the eighth grade. Whatever happened to you, your parents were, your step parents were murdered. Which is like great. Where's that friend of you is from, hey, dude. Is he around? That's my question. Is Bud Nick dead in this movie? Did he die of a drug-related problem? Yes. Yeah, of course. Let me tell you something right now. We're on the air.

This is going all over the place. They did a salute your shorts reunion. Danny Cooxie could not be bothered to show up. Fuck you, Bud Nick. You get to that goddamn reunion. If Donkey Lips is there, you get there. What does he do it? What did he have?

I honestly don't think he could get the time off from his real estate office. Might be in prison. Other options with Budnick might legitimately be in jail. I don't know. Is he confirmed alive? Yes, he's alive. Well, that would be, I think it would be cool if Budnick was in this movie. And he's like, come on, man, let's get the band back together. Oh, yeah, he's the friend from high school who can't let all that shit go.

Yeah, for sure. Exactly. And he's like, oh, man, I haven't seen you in forever. Oh, my God. And then he's like, remember we used to play afterburn at the fucking afterburn at the gallery. We should go do that again. And you're like, yeah. I would actually kind of like him to be the Sarah Connor character in T2,

where he's just because he saw what he saw Oh, he's like, just fucking gone. Yes. And he has to go find him and be like, do you remember this fucking detail that doesn't matter to anybody but could maybe matter to this script? He like goes to his apartment

and his wife's like kind of pissed off that he's staying with him for a while. He's like, let's sing some of the old tunes, man. It's the fallacies. It's the foul. Dude, Jesse Pinkman's singing that song to that friend in Breaking Bad. That's humiliating.

That is some of the hardest shit to watch on that show. forget all the drug trade stuff of course so the terminatrix which I'll say because it really annoys me no let's just say TX I just can't possibly she breaks into the veterinary office

actually this time she starts killing a bunch of kids oh yeah which is actually a great subplot in this movie yes part of the movie her just like knocking on a door some kid answers she shoves him and she shoots him oh yeah like murdering people left and right little kids whatever

She kills, like, a teenager to drive through, because apparently she's trying to kill John Connor's lieutenants, which makes total sense. Yes. She's actually loopering. Yeah, she is loopering. That's a movie the world can kind of keep, I feel. Looper? Looper. I don't care for it.

I like it. I don't love it. The time travel stuff kind of doesn't make a lot of sense in that movie. Then it turns to do Akira at the end, which is fine. I'm fine with it turning. I just, I love that. You know what killed me about that movie? Two words, Bruce Willis.

I mean, I just can't. A contemporary Bruce Willis, I just can't. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. It's just Bruce Willis today is just not what he was. Like there's just a stain on that movie that I should, as a time travel fiend, like, love

that movie. But Bruce Willis is just there sighing through the whole thing. The world needs to let go of Bruce Willis. Unless he's going to continue. If he wants to enter the West Anderson stable, so be it. That's a surprise, but it happened. And it was good. It was very good. It was a surprise.

Um, so she kills a bunch of kids, gets to this veterinary office, and is about to kill, uh, Catherine Brewster, who's Claire Daines. And there's this weird part where there's blood on the floor. She picks it up and puts it in her mouth. Yeah, a little. It's a sexy move. Yeah. But she's also like, like checking DNA, which Terminators never could do. But also. Well, she's a new model terminator. Yeah, I guess so. But also. I guess you get that mouth hole, you better use it. Whatever the fucking thing is that allows her to figure out DNA, clearly is also on her. finger. Yeah. So why not just fucking put your finger in it and not lick it like you're giving a fucking blowjob?

There is the moment where she's like, uh, yummy. Oh, that's not John Connor's blood. That happens at one point. But then, like, minutes later, maybe like 20 minutes later in this movie, there's another sequence where she just looks at blood. Yeah, and she's like, nope. So I was like, what were you hungry? Why are you? She's got the blood rain in her, dude.

How do you fuck up an idea that's just Nazi vampires? Yuvall. Oh, right. That did it. Yeah, that did it. That'll crash it every time.

Two syllable answer. You have a bowl. I mean, secret Nazi Dracula is just sitting there. Just sitting there. Waiting for someone to pick up that torch. So we got a Terminator fight. Arnold shows up to at his pickup truck. He kidnaps Claire Danes.

And, I mean, it's a big Terminator fight. She spends, Claire Dane spends the next 25 minutes of this movie locked in the back of a truck. Well, she's olive oiling throughout this whole movie. Yeah. Like, what's this movie about? I'm screaming. And it's like, I don't know, like, fucking fill.

Take the two minutes to fill this character here. You know, I'm the only legitimate actor in all of this, right? Yeah. That's true. Well, this movie is actually a lot about women. You know, it's about the term the TX. The Battle of the Sexist. Yeah, it's kind of like a Pedro Alvadar movie, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah.

No, not a lot of trans. women, but yeah, sure. Well, that would be inappropriate, Chris. Of course. Inappropriate. That lifestyle is inappropriate. The Terminator said so. You download Ted Cruz's hard drive

into his brain. Man, if Ted Cruz was an unstoppable robot, we'd be in trouble. Good thing is he's very stopable. Yeah, he's just a stoppable robot. That's the thing. You just don't vote for him, which no one ever does. No. And no one ever will.

Except for that one cow pie pasture in Texas that keeps sending him to Congress. Who are these people? So whatever. We're on the road, which we are for most of this movie.

Yeah, kind of just one long chase scene, but not in the exciting Fury Roadway. No. Just talking about like what's going to happen in Judgment Day. Well, that's the thing, right? Is we have to have a lot of conversation about like, this and that. The main question being, if we destroyed Skynet, we destroyed T-1000, and then

the Terminator sacrificed himself at the end of the movie, again, the saddest thumbs up in cinema history, how is it that judgment day still happens? And we have like a little peppering of like mentions throughout the movie until like we're flooded with it at one point. But like this idea of there's this computer virus that's going around and like ATMs aren't working properly you can't use credit cards at bodegas and whatnot like a nightmare yeah yeah the system is down but we don't ever really touch on that

until Claire Dane's dad is like it's this that and the other thing Colonel Happa Blap and you're just like all right well too little too late for all these details and we find like Steve looked like he was going to say something and then he just like what farted well the most like ridiculous and stupid. And it should

be a big moment when Terminator because Claire Dane's, it's revealed that Claire Dane's is the one who can control the Terminator. She's the one who can say yes, this, this thing. Whereas it's John Connor and T-2, it's like, oh, you have to do everything I say?

Don't kill anybody. Dude, that fucking cuts the balls right out of that movie. Yep. Fuck it. Because the first Terminator movie, it's a badass horror movie, practically. It's a science fiction horror film. yes the second one it's like don't kill anybody that'd be bad oh no that will be bad just a bad guy can kill people just a bad guy it might be nostalgia but i'm still okay with t too i'm still totally okay with t too but like it's just there i like i like just poking the bear with t too because there's a lot i mean Arnold does wind up getting his revenge against that protocol in the movie

where he's like, shoot, he's blowing out a lot of kneecaps in T2. Oh, that's like, they'll live. And I'm like, yeah, they will. Wheelchairs, get ready for that shit. Yes. Apparently, John Connor is really upset with death, but making someone a paraplegic, he didn't specify. Really not a problem.

It's like the Twilight Zone, someone making a wish. They didn't really think it all the way through. It's amazing because, like, it's the same thing Batman does where it's like, oh, you're crippled, but, you know, you're alive. It's like, I don't know, man. Like, how do you know he's going to live through this? Like, what if he gets an infection in the hospital? Exactly. We all thought Superman made it through, and he died of a bed sore.

Like, you never know what's going to happen. So, yeah, it's all horse hockey. But, but yeah, so in this movie, it's Claire Daines is the one who, it turns out, controls the Terminator's protocol. And she's the one who brings up the point that, like, John Carr's like, well, wait, what happens to me? Yeah. And then Terminator's like, you're dead. it's kind of an interesting thing though it's a really good idea you're dead

and it's like pause pause pause what happened I killed you and you're like fuck yeah Arnold Terminator that's pretty cool why don't they get a flash forward at that point exactly let's just jump back and forth in time a little bit like these Terminator movies T2 does the same thing

you get a quick snapshot of what John Connor's like leading this resistance it's some like unknown nothing actor in T2 that does like a charge. I'm like, that's the end of it. But in T3, you've already established Nick Stahl in the future what he looks like. Flash forward

to that scene where it's like, maybe, you know, this Terminator's like sent in and it's like, oh, it's the Terminator. Blammo. Well, he says, like, I was chosen because of your associations with this face. And like, honestly, I don't know, 40 years after seeing like all of your friends be murdered by that face,

you wouldn't be like, oh, hey, it's my old pal T-800. Yeah, and you know what robots are, there might be more than one. Exactly. Because this is not the same T, whatever. No, it's not. It's a different model. Yeah. So he... I need the vacation,

which is what he says in that second movie. And that is the single worst line in Judgment Day. Yes. It's when the Terminator, after like, recharging and like stomping back into the movies, I need a vacation. Well, well, you know, even C3PO liked his oil baths.

Oh, this oil bat will feel so good. Oh, thank the maker. I do kind of, I would love if like that like makes the machine break down. I need a vacation. What is a vacation? Oh, no. It just collapses.

I would also use a scene where Arnold is being bought and traded by Jawa's. Oh man, you know how much a Terminator would be worth? A lot. They could do a lot of farm work on moisture farm, you know, carrying all bundles of whatnot.

Making blue milk all over the place? I will yeah, I will milk your dewback to get you your blue milk. Well, frankly, considering all the little fucking things they put into the, like, re-released shit, I'm actually surprised there isn't a Terminator

in the fucking... Just drop a terminator or two in there, George. Just ahead. That's all I need. So, yeah, we find out that Catherine Brewster, Claire Daines' character, has reprogram this Terminator and set it back to the future or back to the past. And it's kind of

a bit of a, it's about your kids Marty. Yeah, what, do they become assholes or something? Because he's like, oh, you guys get married and then you have children and they're also very important. Yep. Yeah. It's important to keep you both alive. Exactly right.

And so that's the pathoron, you know, and whatnot. Here's something. This TX among several of her new exciting abilities in this film. She has the ability to talk to robots

or talk to any kind of machine and make them do her bidding, which is fine. Queen of the machines, man. I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is there's one shot and they only do it once in this movie where it's like she looks at something and it's like

and then we see them like whatever the machine, it's a toaster or whatever the fuck and we go inside that computer and all of a sudden We're inside a computer and we're zigzagging through cyberspace. It's the worst. We loved those shots in the early 2000. Opening a Fight Club, opening of X-Men.

Just going inside a system. Sure. It's just the worst. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hackers probably started it all. Oh, and let us not forget disclosure. Oh, yeah.

Are we going into something in disclosure? Oh, yeah. We're going in several things. Demi Moore's closet? Yes. I don't know why that would be computerized. What are we going inside? No, the virtual reality garbage.

Oh, my God. I forgot about the VR. are in that movie. Everyone forgets about the VR and disclosure. You know what? Because at the end of the day, it's something written by Michael Crichton. So tech has to be in there some way. And I mean, it's the most exciting kind of VR. VR law

firm files. So we're driving to Sarah Connor's grave because Linda Hamilton said no to this movie, so she's fucking dead. Fucking kill her. Oh, oh, what's that? Oh, she said no, huh? Well, that's what? Dead! Doesn't even get a casket.

Cremade. She's burned to ass. You are the best terminator of all, for I need to kill with brutal efficiency. You just need a pen. The screenwriter is the ultimate terminator. Well, no, yeah, she outlasts two terminators, or three terminators, really, and gets taken out by one lecuminator, whatever. She gets leukemia, which is stupid. Like, have her die, like, in a standoff with the cops or something. Some sort of battle.

She was a hard-ass lady. She should have fucking. Exactly right. Yeah. Skynet tried to have a whole another office and she blew it up. Yeah. She died because she misdiagnosed herself on a sentient version of WebMD.

She got she was accused of trying to steal something from Walmart so she went ballistic. She killed like 58 Walmart employees before they finally took her out. Then she took herself out of that.

Yeah, that one. So we're going to her... This one's for you, Johnny! We're going to some... What's the word I'm looking for? Not mortuary. No, it's a crypt. Yeah, crypt.

Mozzalium. That's the word I'm looking for. And Arnold's like, no, you have to see something. And, like, punches through this, like, Sarah Connor Memorial. And Nick Stahl's, like, flipping out about this. He's like, dude, dude. Dude. And the Terminator is, like, dragging this coffin out by one hand. Like, trust me, this will all make sense. I won't tell you now, but I'll just keep doing this.

The desecration of your mother's grave. Like, why would you keep it a secret Terminator? Just be up front. Like, listen, I'm about to break this shit open and pull this coffin out with one belt swoop. Your mother's not in there. But I can show you her if you want that, too. But so we ripped that shit open. And there's just this, like, well, weapons stock in here. Which comes to nothing. He almost never uses any of these weapons. For the most part.

Yeah. In the first one, when he goes, in the second one, they go to Mexico and they get that cool thing, that's where he gets his crazy little bazooka gun. That's where he gets like... The big gatler. You see the guns, you see them used. You know what I mean? It's like set up, payoff. Yeah. This is like, it's a big, like, storage chest of a coffin of weapons.

Let's just pick out five of our favorites. But also, this is just this movie redoing T2 again. It's just that scene in this mausoleum. And so the cops all roll up. Well, the greatest thing is the cops go to who I'm

going to call bullshit Danny Strong, her boyfriend who looks a little. Oh, yeah, he kind of does. Yeah, you're totally right. Her boyfriend is like asleep. The cops make it up like, hey, dude, your fiance was kidnapped. And instead of being like, by the way, you're the lead suspect, which you definitely would be, as always,

anything ever happens to your wife or girlfriend, or spouse other way around, you're fucked. Unless you've got a real ironclad alibi, you're spending a night in the clink. Ironclad. Yeah. But to be fair, that's after he's been TXed. Yes, that's right. Yeah, he does get TXed.

Because his reply to this is also, the cops would instantly put him in chains. Because instead of him being concerned that his fiancee was just kidnapped and he's just like, I'll take your tour. I'll take you to her. Where are the bodies? Where are the other bodies on top of that?

You sick, fuck. Exactly. Do you know where the Libre and Tar pits are? I would like this robot to be caught up in a line of questioning and not know what to do and just inflate this dude's tits. I don't know, maybe this will work. Last ditch ever. All TX.

Inappropriates. Arnold says no, no, no, no, no. So all the cops show up. By the way, that guy gets chainsaw and we don't get to see it. Oh, yes. All right. So another feature on this new TX model is that her right hand could turn it into a gun. She's got a laser blaster, which fuck that shit.

Yeah, because. Yeah, there's a super flamethrower at one point. But like, why? Maybe a super soaker possibly. Yeah, there's like holy water in it. But like, why? oh why is there a chainsaw feature and you just hear like the guy i don't know if like a sleep or something and it's like oh what's that and like it just cuts to a wall and it's like and then like blood spatters on it

and you're just like why would you do that again come back to christopher lloyd at the end of roger rabbit yeah well she doesn't know where they are and she really wants to ride around with the cops to be able to find out where they are Oh, right. It comes over the radio. They're at so-and-so cemetery, and the TX kills both of these guys that turns into a Clive Barker mobile because she puts her hand through this guy's chest and is steering with it. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What movie are we watching? It's ridiculous. Like, it's just, there's just like gristle and shit all over her robot arm. You know what I bet it is, is like Whithson City, they got Quentin Tarantino to come in to one. scene they got Peter Jackson they're like, come in, we know, we've seen

Brain Dead, we know, we know what's going on that. I'll be it, Terminator. Just direct one scene of terminating of this hand going through this with this, but holy shit when she gets to the cemetery. Yes. This is my biggest issue with this fucking movie. Well, so let's get into it.

So the whole thing is Claire Dane's runs out like a hostage situation. She goes out, the pizza is coming in. These people are like fucking maniacs. Right, yeah, she, this is right before we get all the backstory about like, you marry the savior of humanity, you

sent the Terminator back. You die, I kill you, the whole thing. So right before that, she still doesn't have all the facts. So she, yeah, she's still like, fuck this. And, you know, runs out, runs into SWAT custody, all this stuff. And then like the Terminator comes out.

And I've always kind of like this sequence in this movie. Arnold comes out. He's got the coffin just around his arm. Yeah. holding this thing, and he's blasting these dudes with the other gun. Just going at it, like nine police cars. But it doesn't kill anybody either. That's what I don't appreciate it because there's a scan and it's just like 18 vehicles destroyed zero casualties.

And it's like, listen, assholes. Everyone watching the movie, everyone making the movie, robots in the movie. Everyone is going to be nuked to shit that day. Who cares if they get shot? We're on the eve of judgment day at this point. But also, aren't a half of these guys having a heart, like, oh my god, a rock. Oh,

that is the thing. No one appropriately reacts to like shooting a robot and having the robot be like, nope, and keep going. There's never a holy fuck. What is that thing? A stroke. One stroke. I need one stroke. I need dudes dropping like

flies. I really do. The one what I really appreciate about the sequence is Claire Dane's comes out It's a hostage situation Like oh we have a counselor For you to talk to And it's a real I like this cameo

I guess I might be alone And then I hate it Oh I hate it Oh Oh I hate it It's the doctor From the first two movies

And like he's like Yeah you know For some reason I work with the LAPD now No fucking way Is this dude still on staff And I dealt with your You know

Husband's mother And she was a pip You're lucky She Oh what was that died of leukemia? Well, that's stupid. But anyway, you're lucky she's dead because she was a real firecracker.

It's a dumb cameo, but it's, he actually acts appropriately. Yes, because he's like, he sees Arnold and he fucking shits his pants and runs away, and I'm like, now we're talking. More people should do that. But it's only because he recognizes Arnold from the other movies.

Yeah, just any other guy holding a coffin over his head, shooting everyone. Different story. But like, they do, And it happens a couple times in this movie where we're going into, like, really choppy slow-mo. Yeah. And that's what, like, when you're looking, it's supposed to be, like, that professor or that doctor's, like, point of view. And it's, like, zooming in on Arnold, like, very slow-mo.

And the guy's like, ha-a-ha-ha-ha-ma-ha-ha-ma. And it's not because it's a robot, but because it's like, oh. A robot he knows. Yeah, it's a robot he knows. Which is the scariest one, the robot closest to you. Yeah, absolutely. And the next scene is the one that pisses me off to know it. Well, this is when we're in the RV.

No, no, no. When so the BarkerMobile. Well, the TX as the fiance. Yeah. Right. He comes out and he's coming towards Claire Danes and he's like, I'm going to kill her. Yeah. And I was thinking of exactly this is what I was thinking was in the T2 when it's Edward Furlong's aunt.

Yes. And she's, and T1,000 is just acting that part until she has to kill Xander Berkeley. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. And, like, so she's as his fiance, can sell it. It's still selling like, hi, honey, she changes into the robot before she even, like, gets to Claire Dane. She's 10 yards away. She's giving way everything.

Like, here's a chance for you to run away. Slipp. You're totally right. It's such horseshit. Also, I want to quickly correct you that that woman was not his aunt. It was his foster parents. Foster parents. Yeah.

Because that movie, it's a real instance of some shit-ass father. If you complained about that on a message board that we said, and delete your comment now. We've cleared it up. Wow, commenting in a matter of seconds, huh? That's pretty impressive. It's quite a fan base. And that woman's awesome.

That's the woman from aliens. She plays... Bill Pullman's partner in aliens. Oh, really? Bill Paxton. All the internet comments are going fire it off. Oh, my God. It's going haywire.

This is how Skyness. happen. I would like to meet the man who hasn't fucking, man or the woman who hasn't confused Bill Paxton, Bill Pullman. It happens every day. Bill Paxton's senior son, Bill Pullman a birthday card by accident, all right?

I think if you haven't confused those two people, like, you're the perfect human being. Or maybe a Terminator. Oh, yeah. I never confused it, too. They're very obviously different. Bill Paxton was clearly not an independence day inappropriate

but Bill Paxton was great in sleeper since oh god damn it! That explodes. You know, I love both of them. I can't I can't. I can't. Bill Paxton in the first Terminator, great little cameo. Oh yeah. As one of the punk guys that he's naked

in front of. That just gets murdered. It's great. So we're in the RV and we're heading the sky. We're all, well, yeah, we're, basically, he kind of lets, Terminator lets it slip. Yeah, oh, it's about your kids, Marty. You know, you probably should just have sex now because why not? I'm like a lamp.

It doesn't even matter to me. I totally would not be looking at anything. Yes, keep going. And it's what, they do the bullshit thing too where it's like, what do you mean we're going to be married? We clearly hate each other's guts. You're like, well, by the end of that movie, we're holding hands. It is funny how things like love work out. Can we talk about the Terminator's two nuclear hearts in this movie for whatever?

Yeah, sure. He's like, after that the cemetery, he's like, oh, wait, could you give me a cutting tool? And he's like, oh, yeah, sure. What do you want to fix your t-shirts? Like, no, actually. And he's like, cuts his old chest open. He throws his chest out the window. He has his little heart of flesh.

He's the whole flash out And then he picks up this little fucking like Weird, it looks like a gun magazine Yes Which is his heart and he throws it out And it took a nuclear blast It's like oh I have two of these for some reason It goes up and this car

Is flying all over the road I mean it's ridiculous And he's like yeah Disregard the fact that in the last two movies That totally did not happen at all I've been upgraded But for some reason they didn't make a team T-1,000 that just looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Yep. Why not? Why not? Also, why are we not figuring out a way to get Robert Patrick in this movie? That's a good question. It's 2003. The X-Files is over. He's there.

He's waiting to do movies with John Cena. He's desperate for him. And it makes no sense. Like, the character, like, okay, so you go from regular robot that is the T-800. Yep. You go to liquid metal. That's T-1,000. Right. And then, like, fucking putting melted cheese around a taco, which sounds delicious.

You go to a robot covered in T-1,000 liquid for some reason. Budgetary cuts. But, like, it doesn't give you, it gives you less advantages than the T-1,000. T-1,000 has all the advantages. Literally, the only way you can kill it is by melting it down. to nothing. Exactly right, because at the end of this movie, she gets blown to bits because, you know, spoiler alert, he pulls out the other part of his nuclear heart and blows up, you know, the little cave that they're in, you know, ostensibly blowing the TX to bits along with himself. But like, yeah, you're totally right. It's a downgrade. Yeah. The TX is a downgrade from the T1,000. They should have done, and to keep, get Robert Patrick in this, you know, who cares about Arnold? We've had him as, you know, the bad guy in the first movie, the good guy in the second movie,

and Robert Patrick was the bad guy in the second movie. How about John Connor in the future reprograms the liquid metal Robert Patrick? Yes. Sends him back to protect them in this movie. That would be much better. And then we think of something different with Terminatorics. A woman would be great, but still, this is garbage.

Honestly, if you want Jay Courtney to play a T-1000, that's way more believable than any other Jay Courtney fucking character I've ever seen. Well, also, the thing that's a note, about this TX is like eventually at some point all of her skin's getting burned off just like every Terminator movie happens all the time and somehow like the liquid metals falling away

and whatnot and at the end that's the magnet scene right or no oh no yeah that is the magnet scene around that is like you start seeing parts of this but mainly like when her exoskeleton or like the skeleton of the robot is like fully revealed it's got like blue eyes like she clearly looks

like an evil robot yeah and it's doing a lot of facial expressions and a lot of like just like hissing and shit like it's a demon well we did make the job like he was trying to connect to the internet which she does in this movie she she facts she calls a motive oh it's the worst totally does she just like makes all the crinkle sounds into a phone but like i mean we're going to get to it in the end of this fucking thing but like all these apparently have emotional states that we were never told about it's something that's never really addressed. Well, basically, T-800 is like, you're going to get married. By the way, today's

judgment day. Let's go to this bunker. And he's like, wait, hold on. What? And, you know, Claire Danes doesn't freak out like my father. He's like, oh, yeah, your father's also one of her targets because he starts it. That's the thing is it's not, it's not on, and this is, it's a dumb, like, we're revealing it because it's a sequel, so we're just making it up. But like, whereas in T2, it's like, oh, Miles Dyson is the dude that comes up with all this stuff. Great Joe Morton performance. Oh, absolutely. Fantastic. Some of the best Joe Morton you'll ever see. And it's like

the whole thing in T2 is like if we destroy SkyNet, you know, Miles Dyson promises not to do anything more with robots. We'll stop Judgment Day. Miles Dyson gets killed in that movie, like the whole thing. They did a chip, they throw the arm, everybody's done. But then it turns out that like the government was already involved in

Skynet. So the whole thing is after the events of T2, the government gobbles up what's left of SkyNet and continues all of the shit. So it's actually Claire Dane's father that is the start of Judgment Day, not Miles Dyson, which, how the hell does the

Terminator from that second movie not know that that's the score? How is that a secret? I think it's a bullshit thing where like history keeps changing because judgment day needs to happen. Yes, you're right. Because why the fuck not? Yeah, you're right. It's inevitable, all of that stuff. But also, like, the space time continuum would be fucking

garbage in this world. Doc Brown, would be pulling his skin off with all this shit. And also, why doesn't the robots like kill Sarah Connor's grandfather? Let's go back to fucking ancient times. Or, hey, we'll keep it with the whole back to the future thing. Go back to

the old was. Yes. Yippie Kayae motherfucker. Are you Sheriff Connor? Sheriff. Mary Steenbergin, would you like to dance with me at this gallows? Or look, it's ZZ Top. Here's the thing. go back to 1968

when fucking or probably 1950 something when someone's pregnant with Sarah Connor right? Yep. And you wait for that

mother to take one trip to the fucking fast food restaurant by herself and that's it you blow up the car you're done. Yep.

Just like and spend two or three days and don't spend those two or three days killing other people for no reason. Like actually fucking lay low

get a robot that doesn't sound Austrian. Also if you the T.S. can indeed control the internet as we see she can. Why not just hack into the nuclear codes and just fucking blow this whole

fucking thing up? You don't need some special key. You can control the internet. Yeah, that's true. Just fucking do it. Like, I don't understand this at all. Well, that's the problem, right? It's like, Judgment Day was not

with the nuclear missiles and Russia bombing us or whatever. Like, Judgment Day always lived in the cloud, it turns out. So there was no way to stop. I mean, you can't stop. up the internet right and that's the whole thing like once this virus that unless i'm missing something is not super explained is this a sky net virus that they made i think sky net is the

virus something i think that the the the self-awareness of sky net makes it to be able to write a virus of or a spreading i see like it's the computer writing its own code i guess is what the what you would think of viruses gotcha so at this point we realized claire dain nick stahl tries to kill himself, which is kind of amazing. Oh, right. He, like, pulls out a gun, and he's like, you know what, man, fuck it. If it's all going to be, and I kind of agree. You know what Steve Sadex is going to kill himself in a movie.

Why would I want to live out my days, fight fucking robots at a bullshit world? No one's ever told me what the food situation is in this thing. I imagine it's not very good. I saw Terminator Salvation. It's shitty. Yeah, like eating dog food or whatever the fuck. Like, you know what, dude? Thanks, but no thanks, being the savior of humanity. Exactly right.

I mean, humanity's run its course, and maybe we should let killer robots take over the world. And then guess what? They'll give the aliens a hell of a fight. Because, you know, it's not, humanity's going to end. Yeah. Spoiler or loot. It's going to be killer robots or aliens. If killer robots are here, whatever, just let it happen.

That's a good arm wrestling match. Yeah. I think if anything, killer robots are more likely to give aliens. aliens, a run for their money. Exactly. It gives Earth a better chance. So let us be consumed by the killer robots. And, you know, not for nothing.

I would imagine killer robots would be smart enough to maybe save a couple of people in, like, a lab bunker for whatever weird experiments. Sure. Because they like making flesh on things. Oh, yeah. So humanity might not die. And maybe the killer robots will take care of the aliens and then the meek shall inherit the earth. so Arnold is like okay listen we gotta go to this bunker

and hang out his judgment day is happening and they're like no Terminator listen like if we go to my dad's office and we tell him if it's take your daughter to work day I can get in today

and it's really obnoxious because they just change the Terminator's mind yes he's they're like come on he's like all right fine as long as you stop whining well I think it's a thing

where like essentially Claire Daines finally gives the order like it's all John Connor being like we got to do it we got to do it's like fuck you fuck you fuck you and then all of a sudden she's like what we have to do it is like okay you have programmed me twist ending everybody

I have a note where it says engage protocol reverse psychology when does that happen oh where the Terminator uses reverse psychology so stupid oh I don't remember Anybody? Am I alone? We could probably cut this part. There's a sequence where

he uses reverse psychology on somebody? On John Connor. He's like Is it maybe with the suicide thing? Yeah, go ahead to kill yourself. I'll be very broken up about it. I'm a fucking robot. Humanity will surely miss you if you kill yourself. I think it actually

might be when he's telling him about marrying Claire names. Yeah, maybe it is. I think it's something to do with that. He's like, oh, it's simple psychology. Every time has this protocol and it's like what are you even talking about what what nonsense is coming out of your nonsense robot mouth reverse psychology you're a fucking robot so we go to this government base and somehow unless again i'm missing something we just get right in oh we get in we just

get right into this top secret military bunker maybe they went to a pizzeria and they had a pizza about it's like oh my dad forgot his lunch can i go bring it to him it's falafel so the dad is in there with a couple of like ne'er do well computer programmers including a 2003 chris hardwick who's just in this movie haggard yeah he's he's just in there oh i missed it he's the guy who's like giving updates he's got a little clipboard and he's a little overweight yeah i didn't notice i guess because of his other lack of star presence. Well, this is also pre-talking dead where he's all, you know, with a suit

and is like looking good to host. Yeah, I mean, he looks like this character's living in his mother's basement. You know, I don't want to single him out or anything. That's what Jenny McCarthy would do on that show. He would say, welcome back to singled out. And then she would go, that's what she says to vaccines every day.

Like, hey, Jenny, do you? Have you changed your opinion on vaccines? Yeah. Points. Points. Points. Points. You know the funny thing about,

I watched a ton of single down. Oh, and I was a huge Chris Hardwick fan in Singled out. But when Jenny McCarthy left and they switched in Carmen Electra, man, did you realize how much Jenny McCarthy did on that show. Oh, absolutely. Like the absence of which you're like, wow, I guess she did a bunch.

Which what does that? say about the show single doubt that Jenny McCarthy is the thing that made it interesting. She has chops. Oh my God, she has chops. She's got chemistry. Her and Hardwick had chemistry. It was a real thing. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Somehow. So they break into the government facility and she's like, Dad, don't. And he's like starting Skynet now. Well, because the basic, I don't know, the chairman of the CIA calls him, like, it's the whole time he's like, oh, you know, he's the guy like, he's kind of a heroic figure where he's like I don't want to do this

it puts way too much power in the hands of machines and by the way in case anyone's following along there's a huge computer virus that is destroying the world and the government's action the government's idea is well connect the world's biggest computer to it

that can't go wrong sure so he's like I don't want to do this and his boss reams him out real bad right oh yeah it's a bad day at the office for this guy And he's like, you know what? All right, fine.

I'm going to hit the Y button, which is yes, to make this happen. She comes out and then the Terminator blows her away. And the guy's like, whoa, didn't see that coming. It's actually the TX. And then she goes, dad, no. And it's a big old fight in there. But, like, instantly SkyNet becomes self-aware. Which I'm pretty sure in the last movie, it took Skynet a couple of days to become self-aware.

Well, broadband. Oh, yeah. It was totally right. That's the dial-up. And now is this where, like, the Terminatrix is hot on their heels now, right? Well, we're all in the facility, and there's a bunch of baby terminators to contend with. Yeah, there's, yeah, there's a bunch of, like, it's like an army of little Robocop 2s. Yeah.

Like the boxy Robocop 2. Yeah, they kind of actually reminded me of something you'd see the Ninja Turtles roll up against. Yes, the mouse, they look like the Mousers. Yeah. You're totally right. They're actually called T-1s in this movie. That's the model name, which is like, oh, get it everybody. Oh, this is the dude, we are at ground.

zero for the end of the world and these robots. Yeah, and they're killing all these office workers? Just oh, slaughtering these pencil necks. Chris Hardwick doesn't get an on-screen death, which he should because he's got some lines. You know what I mean? Like, yes. Yep. You should see him getting shot in the face or something.

Or the neck. Yeah. Something. Any part of the body. This is when we get a A, uh, the TX immediately shoots up this guy for no reason. Because I guess he's the only guy that could stop the virus. The dad. The dad. The dad gets lit up in this movie. And he gets pulled

into another room and they're talking to him and it's like, oh, there's a facility. In Crystal Peak, you got to get there because that's where we could stop the virus if you go there and do these things. Right. This is when TX and the T-800 get into a big fucking fight in the bathroom. Oh, yeah. And this

is like the big fight because they really haven't hand-to-hand com added? They haven't. There's the great, I think, great chase scene at the beginning of the movie. With the crane? Yes. All of that crane stuff. That's a pretty on point chase secret. But it's exactly the same thing as the chase scene and the fucking... With the motorcycle and the whatever.

But it's a sequel and it's all amped up, though. It's a much higher scale chasing. There's a lot more destruction. I'll give you that. You know, I'm not saying it's not a rip-off of T-2. I'm saying it's the one part of the movie that was a rip-off of T-2 that was at least somewhat enjoyable. Which is this scene because they're throwing each other into walls like Robert Patrick and The Terminator do all the time in that movie, which is the best part. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Just chucking people. and walls. And I think that you might have a misogyny problem in your movie when in the climax, the male character hits the female character over the head with a urinal. Like, it's really a pointed mess. I mean, if

she was a real lady and not a robot, sure. Also, may I bring you back to true lies. Fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger loves beating people in urinals. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's my signature move. I had to go.

My artistic signature is urinals. I will say this about that sequence, though. He, the T-800, grabs this urinal off the wall and just swings it like a billy club and beats this other robot with it. And to me sitting there, I was like, well, I've never seen that before. Sure. I mean, I would do the same thing if I had robot powers. Urinal makes a pretty good baseball bat. You got a nice little thin hand.

know that you can get your hand around. Yeah, it's got a nice heavy base, sure. If you're looking to bludgeon, I mean... Anytime you've got a fight in a bathroom, it's weird. Like the beginning of Casino Royale. Yeah. The Daniel Craig went, he's beaten to someone to death in that bathroom. Eastern Promises? Big bathroom fights

in that movie. So the Terminator almost gets decapitated. Oh, yeah. The TX, the T-800, I should say. Arnold. And she reprograms his mind just, I guess, in case. she fails because then she continues after them anyway and then we go into a particle accelerator

which uh magnet's bitch uh she gets uh this is where i was actually wondering who was gonna call her a bitch in this movie because i didn't see in a long time i was like is it arnold is it nick stall but no it's claire dane's she screams out die you bitch right right right and which is it's okay it's pretty okay it's not as good as sigourney in aliens no but it's close it's getting totally fine. Yeah. But this TX is just stuck to this magnet and like it's ripping all

the liquid parts of her off and this is where you... Which don't make any sense on top of a fucking robot suit. No, it really doesn't. But what makes even less sense, Nick Stahl and Claire Danes stand there and just watch this shit go down. Yep. And they're just like, yep, totally fine. Totally fine with watching

this happen. I'm like, get the fuck out of there. But also like the way she, the the the tx actually gets free is that she's able to put like a buzzsaw from her how is the magnet not immediately grabbing the fucking thing before she even tries to put it out yeah it's that powerful magnet you're right yep you know what chris chalk it up to movie magic oh yes oh the illusion oh of course so the dads i was going to say the dad's hilarious last words in this movie are i've opened pandora's bogs Stop it. Shut up with Pandora's box. And now Hellraiser comes for you. I mean, how does he even know, like, you know, it's a real self-important line. It is.

Like, you know, maybe you've really fucked up on a bunch of people died, but you don't know. Maybe we shut this down in 30 minutes. Yeah, totally. He's like, oh, I'm sorry with this decades-long problem I've left you with. Well, it's like, oh, man, I didn't file those invoices. is, I open Pandora's box. I don't know. We'll pay a late fee. It'll be fine, you know.

I took an extra 50 minutes on my hour-long lunch break. I've opened Pandora's box. Fuck, dude, I've opened it plenty. A couple of other great things from this bathroom fight scene include the TX getting the ultimate swirly because, like, he picks her up by one hand and slams her into a toilet ball. Take that's freshman. Which is the thing that happens. but also she pulls a crazy from behind the back crotch grab on the Terminator,

and you're like, what? It doesn't make a difference because you know that he doesn't have testicles. He's just like, ah, ah, you forgot I'm a robot too. But she's just like crotch grab for no reason. It's stupid. I mean, again, clearly he has the cock there, but it's not hurting him. Right, right. Maybe she just hang on, I guess.

Yeah, I mean, I guess you're not going anywhere, just clamped down on that. Oh, man, it'd be great if she just fucking shoved him in his mouth and just, what she decapitates him? Like, really sent it a message to John Connor? Steve, you're right. We haven't seen a movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger gets his genitalia ripped off his body and shoved in his mouth.

His robot mouth. It could have happened into somebody in Predator, but it didn't. Oh, it could have definitely happened at the end of sabotage if he wanted to make a good movie. Oh, yeah, that's actually true. Someone's eating their own balls in that. Just because you said the word predator, I now, it's like a special relationship I have with that movie.

I have to watch that movie in the next 72 hours. Oh, man, interesting. Yeah, true thing. So they get to this airport, this landing strip or whatever. And Claire Dane's, as she's running, gives away this really easy exposition of like, oh, I know how to fly these planes because my dad taught me. It's like, okay, sure. Or whatever movie.

Oh, it's such movie horseshit. Which is also a problem with me with John Connor in this movie. Again, look, we never see him get awesome or anything. Wouldn't it make sense that he's great at, like, he can strip any gun, and he's, like, a good tactical guy already because his mom had beaten that into him forever. Like, he can fly planes, he could do this. And he was a hacker in the second movie. He took the ATM machine.

Yeah, totally. All the hacking is gone, which is something you'd want to keep up with in a fucking robot war. the hacking's gone there is some line about like he does know like he's able to like look at a gun and be like this is this kind of a gun and sure and whatever but like you don't see him kicking ass there's never any point where you're like you know what this dude could be the savior of humanity no not once there's a whole movie cowering yeah and said i mean claire daines is kicking more ass in this movie there's one part where she takes down a drone with a gun like they're both on the floor she grabs the

and blows this thing away. He's picking his nose. So this is when my least favorite scene of the movie happens. Yep. Arnold comes back because the TX is still magneted up. I guess he took a different route to this thing.

I'm going to avoid that the magnet. He used a different hallway. He gets to this runway. And they're like, oh, he's back. And much like the way he eventually dies, he gives this robot a big hug. He also says, you're the closest thing to a father I ever had

which the robot's like no comment inappropriate keep thinking that I look nothing like Michael Beal Bean But there's I mean in this airport hangar there's all this horse shit about like

Because the Terminator's like Wonkily walking up to them And he's like come on Terminator Get in the plane with us And he's like Just go Just go! Just go Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm gonna, it's, it's, you know what, it's, dude, it's, you know what, two, when you can't control my body, I have jimmy legs.

You know what? Here, we, two, when your computer is fighting itself for programming, you don't see anything happen. It just, you, whoever wins wins wins. Yeah, exactly. he's like totally still like you know what i mean like oh i'm having an intense battle inside of me exactly frankly it's a better zine if he just did go completely evil and then the last thing where nixal actually becomes a john conner we want him to rips it out he has to kill this fucking yeah exactly right whereas like it's instead it's this big fucking stupid weepy scene

where he's like i always loved you terminator but he the terminator and it's weird because why arnold decided to act in this scene i have no idea because It's like his eyes get really watery practically. Like he's like, I don't want to be doing this. And like his face is emoting and he's a fucking robot. What's awesome about the way this scene turns out is he's like, get out of you, get the back in the plane. Get into Joppa. Yeah.

And he's like, he's kind of been throwing John Connor around, but not really. Connor gets in the plane. And the T-800, like the good side of him, overcomes the programming. and much like Mel Gibson firing his gun into the air and frustration. The Terminator pounds down on this car and just like beats the shit out

of it. Why did I need to see that? It's like, no! And just like goes at it and then turns himself off and there is a really bad computer effect of a freeze frame Arnold Schwarzenegger with like the rest of the background around him moving.

And it's not just the actor Frozen. It's like we took a thing we froze a frame grab of Arnold Schwarzenegger and tossed it in there. Well, the actual, the IMDB at the very least, says that he did that. That was something that he did and like

he actually froze himself, not froze himself, but like actually made his body be still for that shot. But that might be bullshit. I don't buy it. It looks frozen as fuck. It looks like someone paused a moving image. Yeah. And cut it out in Photoshop. And seeing a Terminator

bang up a car in frustration I felt like I was watching like one of those in between levels of street fighter which by the way I did like I loved beating up a car Oh yeah it's totally fun The most better in the game than in the movie

It starts with the car I think is the first one And then there's barrels I'm like don't go no give me a truck If anything you lead up to car Yeah exactly And you want E Honda on that every time Yeah oh yeah

A big punt yeah At the end of it I better be breaking a plane in half Yes I better be punching a plane to death at the end of that game. Yeah, I would love it. Back to barrels. Fuck that. Stupid. So we get to this facility and we're in the runway of it.

And both Terminators take helicopters there, which is kind of great. Yep. And both crash them into this cavern. Yes. You have, the first thing is they... It's very Bond-esque cavern at this point. Yes. It's a, yeah, the villains hideout. Like, we go in, the plane that Claire Danes is flying lance, and it's the sea. G-G-I-ist computer plane

you've ever seen in your life and then two little cartoons get out and then we zoom in we cut in harder and it's like back to the actors but there's definitely cartoons on the far out shot and they run in and it's like

we've got this binder that my dad gave me that's got the codes and who could care and we're getting into this facility then the Terminatrix this TX like blasts through this thing with a helicopter and she gets out and it's like oh no two seconds

later blasts in with a helicopter, the T-800. Yes, we all took helicopters here. Robert Patrick got lost along the way. That's what you get for taking a motorcycle. Here's Femke Jansen to shoot up all of you and have an orgasm. Femke Jansen was actually in the... Really? In the running for TX.

Oh, really? She might have turned it down because of X-Men commitments, probably. Possibly. Yeah, yeah. In that last stand, heaven forbid. I would like this reminded me exactly of the zina on the top and the golden eye station oh yeah that was the look of the whole place to me and so like they sort of raise this blast door up and the terminator's like holding it up the two of them scurry through and then the tx is like fighting she's been like blown up by arnold's helicopter crashing so like all of her skin is dead and she's just this demon looking robot that's hissing at everybody and she's like crawling out there's no legs

left and she's just really going for it very end of First Terminator Yep absolutely and we get to the end of this thing and you know Arnold's like pulling out that second part of his heart sure and here we go and the Terminator and like this robot has facial

expressions emotions It's straight up emotion Like it's getting mad Have a little heart No like she's like scared and fear Like the eyes are like I'm scared and fearful of what's about to happen to me They're all like datas now.

Yeah. Well, it's stupid. The weird thing is it tries to reminisce on the second one, Robert Patrick's death, when he turns into all of his people as silvery people. Right. But it's just those fat twin cops. Oh, yeah. I love those.

Splash it in that. But so he just says, you know, you are terminated. And the heart blows up. And, you know, the Terminator sacrifices himself, which is not. There was a line right before this where, you know, they're like, go, you know, get through, you got to get through, whatever. And Arnold says to John Connor, we will meet again. Yeah. No, you won't.

You know that you're a singular robot. He knows that he's from the future where he's killed John Connor. Oh, yeah, we'll meet again. I'll murder you. Yeah, we'll meet again on the eve of your death. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's totally right. Which is weird because now John knows that.

And wouldn't that change the whole history of that robot coming back to? You will always avoid the Arnold Schwarzenegger Terminator. Yes. You absolutely will. Forever and always. Which would also fuck you up in the past because then you wouldn't have had help. Because if that Terminator robot doesn't kill John Connor, Kate Brewster wouldn't fix it to go back and help everybody.

Yep. So it makes no fucking sense. No, none of it makes sense. And maybe he was just alluding to the fact that it's like, I'll keep doing these movies forever. Never. I mean, again, Doc Brown's. skin is crawling watching these movies. Because

the space time continuum is just getting molested. Like one and two are cool and make kind of sense. Sure. It's just just malarkey. It's this thing where they keep saying like every at the end of most of these movies it's like we've beaten Skynet

you know what I mean? Judgment Day ain't going to happen right you know and like we think that's what's happening here which is actually a good nice little twist at the end of this movie. The end of this movie is pretty cool. They go, they're in this bunker, they look around, and it's like this weird, like, 1970s-looking thing. It's like the war room from Dr. Strange Love

is what it looks like. I thought what was his name, Dr. Zolar from Captain America was going to be in the computer. Arbit Zolar, yeah. I am everywhere. Oh, man. I am Toby Jones. I am omnipresent.

I am Skynet. That's what we, but maybe that's what we need to fight Skynet is a Nazi scientist becomes self-aware computer man. entirely possible. Maybe the lawnmower man get him into this? Oh, yeah, he could help out.

Dude, it's like a super, it's like a super friends of computer guys. We need to do that movie where the computer guys get together, like the Avengers. Yep. But they're computer guys. Every IT company in the world. Dr. Zola, the ghost in the machine. Yes. What else is there?

Longmore man. Longmore man, Ultron can get in there too. Ultron can fight Skynet. Why not? It's all just right there. There's many other computer dudes we can get into this, I'm sure. So the cool, I think, cool twist of this movie

is it's actually they get duped. And John Connor and his future wife are stuck in this cave. The blast doors are down. And Judgment Day happens while they're stuck there. And he's walking around and he's realizing like all these computers are totally outdated.

There's no way any of this could lead to stopping SkyNet. Like, what is going on? And then, like, Claire Daines kind of figures it out before he does, like, everything in this movie? Yeah. Like, everything else before it. She's like, by the way, I'm 14 and a half steps ahead of you. She read the, she's the one that led the goddamn revolution. I just got the credit.

Yeah, exactly. Yep. And, like, you know, the movie ends with like, so the bombs fell. And there was nothing I can do about it. And the Terminator knew that. And the Terminator sent me into that cave knowing that. Well, this guy's like, who's in charge there? Please help us.

And John Conner's like, I'm in charge. And Caprice is like, um, you didn't even know where we were. You had like no idea. I did kind of want it to be just the control room. And like the only other room is just like a big like honeymoon suite-esque bedroom. Yeah, it's like you're in charge of the population. Oh, exactly. I mean, I kind of feel like, why not update this?

fucking life raft thing in like, you know, in 1989 maybe, you know, every 10 years, so much, you know, that's the thing is that's one of those like administrative duties nobody wants to take on. Yep. In the White House and it's like, oh, it's fine, it's fine. No, somebody needs to go in there every 10

years updated, get better computers. There's no fucking VCR, I don't even think, man. You're a janitorial staff in there as well. You definitely know that the bunkers underneath the Denver International Airport have Wi-Fi. We're streaming Netflix. It is up-to-date technology in that bunker.

And the newest of Hot Pockets. The lean pockets, too. Because they're going to last throughout the apocalypse. Oh, man, the pepperoni and sausage ones? Oh, yeah. Oh, God, yes. So, actually, apparently you were supposed to see Judgment Day, but after 9-11, they were like, nope. You were supposed to see, actually, which I would have loved, the therapist actually was supposed to burn up into, like, get nuclear.

which I would love because I would like finally vindicate Sarah Connor like fuck you dude exactly judgment day are coming and you're gonna burn I want him to have a firestein death yes oh that's actually pretty funny well that's the thing crap it would be great because like I understand like apparently the Statue of liberty is supposed to go up and all sorts of stuff right cut that I get that sure I want to see that guy go because that guy was a real dick about judgment day and here it is yep exactly right I did kind of like the shot of like above the earth and you

see all the bombs going everywhere Yeah That was kind of cool Yeah The ending is the ending It's weirdly the best part of this movie It's totally fine I've always since seeing it in theaters

I was like that's not a good movie But that's pretty cool We actually had the balls to end the world It made you very confused When you left the theater You're like You're like well that was fucking shit And then that ending happens

You're like Well I don't know A little something There's a little A little something in that shit You found there There's a little peanut in there And that's where we're left.

They're like holding hands in this bunker. The nukes are going off and get ready for robots at some point. Is Kate Brewster at all mentioned in in judgment or in salvation? She is. She's played by Bryce Dallas. Oh, she's. Okay. Bryce.

Okay. Yeah. So they, I mean, they continue that whole thing. Mythology. Yeah. The new one looks pretty stupid, huh? For the most part. Yeah.

I don't, I mean, I don't know what's. good cast like that's my one the one saving grace I have is like having you know amelia Clark in there and having Jason Clark in there I think those are two great great actors sure I can really ground a film yeah Jason Clark really involved with

franchises about the end of humanity yeah he's kind of into it right I want to speak to Caesar right the plan of the apes movies want to speak to the Terminator Terminator movies and Zero Dark 30 yeah you're not wrong

yeah I don't know I mean this is whatever I don't like the fact that there's another T-1000 and it's played by the dude from I Saw the Devil and not Robert Patrick and he's just wearing a cop uniform again I don't know it just seems like it's like this movie was just remaking

the fucking second movie can we stop for the love of God remaking T2 well this franchise though loves acknowledging the past movies because even in salvation what's his face. Anton Yelchen who plays

Kyle Reese in that movie he's got a come with me if you want to live Eskaline. We love making all these nods to these movies and it's just like a it's become like a gigantic in joke at this point where you're like just let it go. It's in the trailer

of the new movie. It's Sarah Connor going come with me if you want to live and it's like hey hey she did it like in in T3 you have I believe there's some variation I'm back happens

oh they say that like three or four times she's back I'm back y'all be back I told you I'd be back I won't be back to the theater you're gonna skip it

I think I might have to oh the desire huh I think I'm still just getting I'm getting fooled by it I'm gonna go I just don't like the idea that John Connor turns into a Terminator

by I don't know what magic they're gonna get used maybe they will be a sorcerer it's not turning the actual John Conner into a Terminator. In the trailer, he's like, we have to reverse the process, which means that, oh, we're talking about process reversal? Yes.

It seems like they got John Connor and they put Terminator brain in his brain. Oh. That's what it seems like. So, does he have like an adamantium skeleton? It looks that way. Yeah, that's what it looks like. Oh, shit. So, I mean, it's, yeah, I'm not, I'm going into it

with incredibly low expectations, but I'm still seeing. I also don't know why Jonathan Davis did your title design and you can't fucking spell Genesis right? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's got something to do with the computer system. It is like a system. Or maybe like Genesis is the name of some protocol.

I'm sure I'm almost positive. It's either that or SkyNet is now Genesis. Right. Yeah, that's the other. We've evolved into the next whatever. So if you are preparing for Terminator Genesis and you haven't seen Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines, is anyone recommending this movie? No. It's kind of useless.

I mean, it's not, we also watched Son of the Mass this week, so this looked a lot better. Yeah. But it's just sort of like, just watch the first two, man. Just totally watch the first two and you're fine. Yeah, I don't think you're going to lose. I mean, this is a terrible movie. Do not watch it. it's i do think you can watch the first two

i do i i will hold steady that i do think the fourth one is just a little bit better than this i kind of feel the same way i haven't seen it in forever yeah i mean i haven't seen it since i saw in theater so i i but like i think you can get everything you need to get if you're going to see genesis if you are going to pay the ticket price i think you get everything you need to get from those first two movies yes just watch those two and you'll be fine just watch those two i guess

kind of alone in saying like there's interesting enough action sequences in this movie that like hey if it's raining out on a Saturday man pop on rise of the machines being like a hangover movie yeah right like I still the crane thing yes it's just like the truck and the

motorcycle in judgment day but like it's a little bit bigger there is a ridiculous thing where Arnold's hanging off of it and then he gets really fast like hit by a fire truck and it's like a Looney Tunes gag where he's like gone in half of a frame I think it's like dragged through a dick's sporting goods or something at some point.

I mean, I'm not like wholeheartedly saying like, go watch it. You need it for continuity for Genesis or whatever. But, you know, there's worse action movies out there. Oh, sure. True. It's absolutely true. And now, right, James Cameron, nothing to do with this one? Oh, he's way done.

He's been writing his Bible of Avatar for the past four years. Chin deep in that shit. Chin deep in Avatar. Did anybody direct this movie? Any big name, this Genesis? Somebody, I think it's the guy who did U-571. Oh, wow. So no.

Yeah, the answer would be no then. Yeah, okay, got it. That's Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines from 2003, directed by Jonathan Mostow. If you want to get a hold of us or find out more information about the show, check out WHMpodcast.com or find us on sideshownetwork.tv.

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