We Hate Movies - S6: Animation Damnation #23 - Rudolph's Shiny New Year

Episode Date: December 31, 2015

On this episode of Animation Damnation, the guys chat about the ridiculous Rankin & Bass holiday special, Rudolph's Shiny New Year, which originally aired December 10th, 1976. Is this anything mor...e than a cheap cash grab off the success of the first Rudolph film? What happened to that camel with a clock in its back? And could they not think of a better lesson than "suck it up and deal"? PLUS: A sneak preview of some 2016 Animation Damnation plans! Rudolph's Shiny New Year stars Red Skelton, Frank Gorshin, Billie Mae Richards, and Morey Amsterdam; directed by Jules Bass and Arthur Rankin Jr. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So I've never seen this before. So I've never seen this before. I had no idea this thing existed. And let me tell you something. what the fuck I never even heard of it either I politely asked my fiance I was like oh what would make a good
Starting point is 00:00:35 December animation damnation Christmas he thinks oh that Rudolph sequel and I was like wait what I thought Rudolph was one and done no actually this is kind of the one I grew up on I've seen this multiple times really yes you have other television in Woodstock
Starting point is 00:00:53 yeah it's like the parallel dimension I mean this is really I guess, when I told you, you, that's why I'm fucked up, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the reason. Wait, so have you then, because this is an author of universe where you've seen this. Yeah. Have you not seen the Rudolph one a bunch of times then? I've seen it, but less.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Weird. Welcome to Animation Damnation. I'm Andrew Juppin alongside Steven Sadeck and Eric Sisker. We're talking about a film from the Rank, Rankin and Bass universe. Franklin and Bash? No, Rankin and Bass. Are they lawyers? No, they make shitty cartoons, stop motion things.
Starting point is 00:01:32 That sounds like a better T&T show. Yeah, probably. This is Rudolph's shiny new year, which came out in 1976, I believe. Man, these Rankin' and Bass motherfuckers are just poisoned. This thing's poison. It's all poison. No, I love that one Rudolph special. It's not right.
Starting point is 00:01:51 No, that's my yearly watching it. Really? No matter what watches. See, that's the Peanuts Christmas, man. I do. Well, I kind of do. I have a couple of those. Steve just loves Christmas. I do love Christmas specials.
Starting point is 00:02:02 All right, everybody else? Oh, so Hottica's not doing it for you. No, no. Well, no, then Steve watches eight crazy nights over and over again. No. Yeah, I know. My, the two that have to happen are peanuts and Rudolph. Some things get shuffled in and out, like your Mickey's Christmas Carol and so on.
Starting point is 00:02:18 The Muppets Christmas Carol gets in there sometimes. Oh, I love that one. Oh, yeah, that's the one for me, I think. Yeah, the Muppets. You know what all those are? not is total shit and that's what this is man so Steve if you could boil down for everybody
Starting point is 00:02:34 Rudolph's shiny new year what is this about so like 10 years or so after the original they say oh you know the that's not the whole story everybody that's not the whole Rudolph the red nose reindeer story apparently he goes on this other adventure wherein he has to save new years as well and there's a lot of stuff about the mechanics of the magic of New Year's
Starting point is 00:03:01 that they just kind of plum make up. Sure. I mean, this whole idea of like the baby New Year. Yes. So are you suggesting that the original Christmas one is it made up? It's made up, but it's Santa Claus is there. Made up. But what he's saying is it is unpopular lore is what we're dealing with here.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yukon Cornelius. He's made up. Yeah, that's right. Dude, Bumbles are real. The Bumbles are in the Bible. Excuse me? No, they're not. The fuck's a Bumble.
Starting point is 00:03:30 The fucking abominable snowman. He's in the Bible? Oh, I'm sorry. You saw that one less. Yeah, I did. The Bumble, dude, the abominable snowman, yeah. Bumbles, bouch! Right into the Bible.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Oh, he's in the Bible. Dude, of course, a Bumble's not in the Bible. Oh, well, no, no, no. I think they are there. The nephilium, right? Those giants. The Frost giant? I think you're thinking of Thor.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I think you're mistaken of Jesus for Thor. Oh, you know what? I do it all the time. Chris Hemsworth is my God. So, uh, Santa's like, hey man, thanks for getting me out of that last jam. I just got a telegram from father time. Who he is close personal friends with. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He's like, oh, apparently New Year is in trouble. And if new, and if we can't find the baby New Year by December 31st, It's going to be December 31st forever, you guys. Which, you know what? That's cool. You know what I do every December 31st? Eat too much, get drunk, and watch TV. Sounds pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That's different from any other day of year. Wow, fucking game set match Cisco. That had some heat on it. Making fun of my Christmas special. So he's like, hey Rudolph, by the way, I know I'm on. Nipotent Santa Claus, but I can't help because this durn blizzard. You got that fun little nose.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Go out there and go save New Year's as well. Find this baby. You find this missing baby. Gone, baby, New Year, gone. And we do get a montage here of father time's life because he's apparently less than one years old. Yes. And I'm just, the mechanics of baby time
Starting point is 00:05:20 and father time are very bizarre. Because, you know, it shows him like, oh, and now it's May, and now he's four or five years old. And then, like, summer comes along and he's starting to be a middle-aged man. Yeah. And by November, he's an old haggard bastard. And what doesn't come together here, really, is that Father Time, voiced by Red Skelton, and also sort of modeled to look like Red Skelton, is not acknowledging his own imminent demise. he's gonna die right and even at the end of the movie when fucking spoiler alert the baby new year is found and saved uh he's just alive and he's dancing and he's telling you this story well that's the thing is he doesn't die he's gonna go off to his own island of year or whatever in the archipelago of lost time oh just like napoleon he went into exile once he was deposed it's a weird weird bureaucratic system and they keep making
Starting point is 00:06:20 stuff up and so Rudolph is going through the sands of time he meets some friends that just immediately disappear this fucking sad sack camel and general TikTok or whatever well yeah the general ticker general ticker uh and then we have the great quarter past five which as my wife very astutely pointed out sounds exactly like bain oh hey there rudolph
Starting point is 00:06:46 oh coming into the desert i see i'm like what the This camel's got like... I was born in it. No one ever leaves the desert. Incheens, awesome, awesome. It's goddamn dickens. Oh, Moses. You think the desert is your alive.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Anyway. The, Rudolph, a fucking reindeer rides a camel. Why? He's a reindeer. Yeah, well, it's kind of funny. Silly. He's like, I'll get you to father time. But this guy
Starting point is 00:07:22 But this bomb will go off And destroy Gotham I'll watch Egypt burn Moses Why is Moses involved Because Eric started it I don't know
Starting point is 00:07:35 Because he's wandering the desert Anyway I think this guy was in the Bible right The clock camel Quarter past five was deaf In the Bible Yeah totally Somewhere in the middle there
Starting point is 00:07:50 Escape to Egypt. So Father Time gives us the depressing story of his life. And he's like, yeah, by the way, I only live for one year and then I get exiled to an island of my year wherein everything is represented or something. Can you imagine if you went to a place where everything stayed exactly 2,000 the entire time? Yeah, it's called my hometown. I go there I go there around the holidays actually Is everybody just watching the big hit
Starting point is 00:08:26 Over and over again Dude I shit you not You drive up there dude You can still find 311 on the radio I'm telling you it's all mixed up Boom So yeah They had some good tunes
Starting point is 00:08:41 They did He's like all right Well he's Baby New Year By the way Unfortunately we're all horrible here And Baby New Year has really large ears and they're just so durn funny. Anyone who looks at them
Starting point is 00:08:53 laughs their head off. And yeah, you know, let's just keep laughing at, you know, people with deformities. Especially laughing at babies. Well, here's the thing. This baby's only got a year of life, right? Kind of. It's probably going to grow into those years
Starting point is 00:09:09 anyway. Oh, in the public eye, yeah, before he becomes like Trotsky. Murdered by ice picks. But anyway. I thought he had a spout of exile. Well, yeah, he was in Mexico. Yeah, that's what I meant? Or, you know, I want to kill this baby with ice
Starting point is 00:09:23 pigs. I don't care. Fuck it. But, you know, the thing is, this baby is going to be dead anyway, so who cares? Laugh your head off at it. But then he needs to be baby New Year at least once, Eric. That's true. One year he needs to hold office. He needs to hold office. Take all the world's time, sins,
Starting point is 00:09:40 or something. Now, here's a big flub in this whole story. Oh, really? You've found one? I think I found a hole in this boat. There is a line that Father Time has where it's Like something, something, he's the baby New Year out of all the baby New Year's. Like, he implies there's other baby New Year's farting around somewhere. I guess there's a world, there's like maybe like a big nursery with all the baby New Year's to come.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I mean, who's the mother? Who's the father? Where are these things coming from? Like, Jesus. Well, why can't they, you know, Jesus shits them out? But why can't they just put a new baby New Year in office for that year then? I don't, I think they like smash all these other baby New Year's with a rock, like old Sparta. Oh, so it's just like that crop.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah. This is the winner. Like, you will be baby New Year. Smash the others. I think it's smashed. Oh, wow. That's harsh. That's harsh times.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Well, this is all not seen in this cartoon. So he's like, hey, go check all these billions of islands. There's only been a million years to look at. Yeah. And every island has a year. And now we get to my nightmare, which is Eon the fucking buzzard. Oh, yeah, this thing's terrifying. It's a disgustingly made puppet, first of all.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And like gross-looking puppets. I got a problem with puppets in general, most puppets. Except for like Muppets, like, you know, professional-grade puppets. But like... These are... This is pro-grade. These things are disgusting. They're garbage.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Okay. Pro-grade. Listen, you can see... Like, I had a DVD of this. You can see, like, the glue... holding the arms on these fuckers. This ain't professional grade. The production value is much worse than the first one.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'll tell you that much. Totally. Ranking and Bass, we're fucking cooking the books on this one. Well, as I recall, though, like the little drummer boy looks like garbage. That's a real shitty-looking one. Well, eight out of ten, Rankin and Bass are pure trash. Yeah. Like pure, pure, trash.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Did you look through those IMDB bios and there's some sketchy shit on there? The TNT show? they're called the mad monster party Oh mad monster party's awesome I never saw it Is that really is that professional grade puppets No it looks like shit I mean it all looks like shit
Starting point is 00:11:56 It's just varying degrees of shit Right so eon the fucking buzzards Like hey man I'm gonna steal that baby And they're like hey why And he's like because if I don't My Eon is coming up I only live for one Eon And then I turn into
Starting point is 00:12:11 Get ready for it Snow and Ice Hey sure You know what Hey, sure. And they're like, yeah, his eons coming up. It's going to end at the beginning of the new year. And I'm kind of curious myself, I'm watching this movie.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And I'm like, well, is this Eon like, you know, World War II to maybe like post-Watergate America maybe? No, like an Eon's what, like a thousand years or something? They say it's an end of, that's a millennium. Yeah, and Eon is just kind of an indescribable amount of time. You can just say it really? I think so. I just made it. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I actually don't know and wasn't really thinking too much about it. Well, at least in the Rudolph special, like, oh. In the world of the film. It's an indefinable amount of time, and, you know, his is just up, everybody, and it's going to end on New Year's Eve. So he's going to kidnap that baby and keep it alive in seclusion. But my thing was, what happens if he just kills it? Yeah, that's a big huge buzzard with big huge buzzard claws. Squish it like a grape, throw it into the ice water that you.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You live nearby. He lives on, like, a big, like, icy mountain top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you do to baby. Like, if you killed the baby New Year, would another one just be like, how's it going? Like, right away? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Maybe, but maybe all time would stop, and it's December 31st forever, and you're just listening to that Counting Crow's song forever and ever. Oh, man. Fucking speaking of shoot me in the head. It's a long December, man. This does encapsulate the depression of the new year Because there's another song about like
Starting point is 00:13:52 Everybody gets old sometimes and dies And the good years are behind you And try and hold on to those Doot do do do do Father time's just being a drama queen Because In a year There'll be a new baby ready to take the fucking mantle
Starting point is 00:14:09 So it's like one extra One year gets repeated Yeah who cares That happens at least once a deck game. And for the is 1989 that different than 1988 question mark? No. Yeah, exactly. Is 2015 going to be any different than 2016? I really
Starting point is 00:14:25 doubt it. Probably not. We're going to have you know, Marvel movies up the ass just like every, you know, it's the same bunch of clowns in Washington. Endless wars. You know, it's there. Shootings every single weekend. Totally. It's all the same shit. That's not going to change. Stop whining, father time. And the fucking scythe that you're carrying around, by the way. He's got a weapon in this movie. It's creepy. It's like
Starting point is 00:14:49 Grim Reaper Tech. That is, that is reaper tech. And I don't know why he's flaunting it around. What do you need that for, Red Skelton? Speaking of Red Skelton, by the way, I did want to point this out. Two things. One, the songs and music in this movie are absolute garbage. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Not like, again, and I'm going to be the guy, not like that first one. No. I have a holly jolly Christmas. You could put that on right now. I'll be dancing. Silver and gold. I'll fucking cry. I'll fucking cry. I in my whiskey glass listen to that song. I think there's a little bit of nostalgia going on in this room.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, the nostalgia critic just showed up. The other thing I was going to say is all the dudes making this thing, all the voices, and we're talking Frank Gorshian, Red Skelton, the dude, I can't remember his name. He was on the Dick Van Dyke show. These are all dudes that went to their grave using the word show business. Uh-huh. Yeah, you know what I mean? You want to talk about eons.
Starting point is 00:15:48 This is a different eons. It's a different eon. And let me tell you, listening to the songs and the vocal performances here, you can smell the scotch and cigarettes coming off the screen with this fucking thing. It is so of its time. Like, that's why, like, even though this thing is trash, I find it so watchable because I just, like, throw myself back into, like, madmen-esque feeling, you know? And it's just like, I can't. Like Frank Gorshin was quoted as saying he recorded all of his lines in a day. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:16:19 You know that was booze and nicotine fueled. You know it. And just Frank Gorshan just drunk trying to do the voice of this night. Like he could give a flying shit about this thing. One of my favorite stories about that era is the old Batman show, how Burgess Meredith, they had like, they would allow him to play the penguin whenever he was in town in quotation marks.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So I just imagine like Burgess Meredith at 4 o'clock at the morning crashing into the producer's house Bill Dozier's house like Come on, let's start shooting Quack, quack, Bill I'm in town, baby I'm on methamphetamines I'll be up for three days
Starting point is 00:16:56 You get me till then Then I go to sleep His butler comes in to see what the noise is And Burgess Meredith beats him to death That was a cover-up that took the whole weekend What a time to be alive in Hollywood Making these shitty ranking and bass movies That would be the best
Starting point is 00:17:12 So they get on a fucking whale called Big Ben. Oh, my God. The camel and the general just go away. I think they died. I think they died. The sands of time. They were swallowed by the sands of time.
Starting point is 00:17:25 It was a time storm. We go to Dinosaur Island, which is one million BC. There's a caveman that I wanted to see dead by the end credits. Talking an acute little caveman voice. Pretty obnoxious. Wasn't there like, it kind of reminded me there was a cartoon of like a caveman that looked like a long like an oval coconut you know what you're talking about uh oh oh oh oh oh uh captain caveman which is on
Starting point is 00:17:53 yeah i think so flintstones junior or the young flintstones oh dude we got to get into fucking hannah barbara we have to that is an untapped resource for for animation damnation um so he sings a funny song about rainbows or something he's like oh yeah we i did see that and this is the trope of this movie it's like oh yeah that you just missed that baby. He came by. We all laughed at his big stupid ears. Oh, you just missed that baby. A bunch of adults just laughed at it and it ran away. And dinosaurs are laughing at this baby. Honest to goodness, and the funny thing is the narration by Red Skelton is just like, and they couldn't help it because the ears made them laugh so much. They didn't mean to be cruel. They're not cruel, are they? If they just laugh at someone's ears, actually, that's the definition of cruel. Also, big ears aren't funny. No, they're not. There's nothing funny about that. And you know what? The message of the first Rudolph special is it's okay to be gay, first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Or, quote, unquote, a dentist. Or, you know, like, if you're a misfit, you'll, you know, you'll go to college and you'll figure it the fuck out. That's basically what it is. You're going to get out of Eric's hometown and you're going to see the world. Well, the thing is, the message of this one, it's okay to be different. You can have a deformity that people laugh at you like I had and it made me feel kind of good, actually, when I was growing up watching the end of this. But I don't know, though, because then everyone's laughing at it at the end.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's like, oh, you know. Get used to it, kid. That's what it is, though. It's learned to laugh at it yourself. The message of this is tough tit. That's what it is, dude. Tough tit. Dude, that's been the message of every corner of my life.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Every turn we make in this life, it's a tough tit. Then they go to Island 1023 for some reason, where all fairy tales are real, question mark. Island 237. Stephen King Island? Dude, it's just an island of wrinkled, naked, dead ladies coming out of bathtubs. Oh, it's that It Follows Island that they went to Richard Branson's island that's been overrun by It Follows demons. That's Island. Oh, man, Island 1981 with Jason Voorhe's running wild on it.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Hell yeah. Island 1941 with John Belushi running all over it. Or Hitler. I mean, like, what happens on Island 941? Island 1941, exactly. So basically in this, and there's a big prolonged sequence with the three bears where Red Skelton is playing Baby Bear, and that's embarrassing? Oh, that's really embarrassing. Apparently, he was reprising the same voice he used as some character called Junior. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Pardon me for not being completely fluent in the career of Red Skelton. For not being 100 years old. I did see him on the Carson Show a couple times. Oh, well, the thing is, this is where the part of the movie where it's like, Like, we're just going to start rolling with Baby New Year for a while. And I'm like, no. Baby New Year is supposed to be missing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm signing on because it's called Rudolph's shiny fucking New Year. And where's that goddamn reindeer? Also, I don't think you're allowed to have a movie that has the three bears and dinosaurs in. I'm just going to say that right. A giant talking whale and a camel with a clock in its own. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. It's just, and you know what else? Benjamin fucking Franklin.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Oh, yeah, because he lives in. It was like... 1776 Island. Yeah. Where every day is the 4th of July, again, shoot me in the head. We got to put that in this cartoon so that none of them foreigners can like this. Well, it's the bicentennial. You better get ready, everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Man, how annoying must have that been. I can't even imagine it. Just every day someone's talking about America. And there's a big song about how great America is. They neglect to talk about slavery for some reason. I don't know why. And there's a big, like, just how several institutions neglect to talk about slavery today. Just like, what did those idiots change it to African workers?
Starting point is 00:21:52 What? The history books. I believe this was a Tejas thing. Oh, God. We took the word slave out and they were workers. Oh, man. God bless America indeed. No, was Tejas claimed to have been not as, was it a slave state or was it, was it one of them like, we'll track them down for you?
Starting point is 00:22:12 You know, I don't know. Either way, they're complicit. Go on. And again, they're like, oh, come on, baby New Year. You're going to take your hat off. First of all, everyone loves Baby New Year when they see him. Like, oh, he's such a sweet little baby. Let's hang out with this baby.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It is pretty goddamn adorable, this puppet. And then they're like, oh, the flag's coming out. You better take your hat off. Come on, baby New Year. Show respect for the flag. And begrudgingly, he does. And everyone, including Ben, fucking Franklin. Franklin's laughing at this baby.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Just laughing at a baby. That baby should have burned the flag. I think he's got a right to at that point. Burned Ben Franklin's fucking house to the ground. Also, am I to believe that this is the ghost of Ben Franklin? Is that what's going on? No, he's the father time of 1776. Oh, that's why he only lived one year.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And that's why he, as was the style of the time, he was a Ben Franklin impersonator. whatever so they all and he picks up a knight from the 1023 and ben franklin and now we've got our own little mad monster party going on right and the night is uh uh frank gorshyn yes and so blibbity blab let's get to the end of this fucking thing we are on an icy mountain sure that's where eon lives yeah the buzzard is like got maybe new year up there and he's going to keep him forever rudolph goes up there well first of all of his friends get put into snowby And you want to talk about poor production design. Rudolph, everyone's frozen in snowballs and the buzz is like, I can go to sleep now because everyone's fucking dead. And he goes to sleep. And Rudolph's nose burns through it. But what happens is, let's just put a Christmas light in a styrofoam ball.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's so obvious. It's amazing. Dude, we're sitting there. My wife goes, wait, his nose gets hot. Hot to the touch that nose is. I guess so. It would have been better if everyone just got this E. got Bumble fucked, right?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Oh, the bumble comes out? Because there were pals at the end of it. Dude, that's the thing. DSX Bumble, dude. Dude, Yukon Cornelius comes in riding that fucking Bumble. The Bumble beats this vulture to death.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh, yeah. End credits. Happy New Year to everybody. I'm finished. Yucon Cornelius is cooking and eating it over the end credits. Oh, yeah. Vultures are great.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yum, yum! There's also a dumb cartoons, an honest to goodness cartoon sequence. Oh, right. Because they kind of retcon this movie because Rudolph is older at the end of it and they don't make mention. It's like Yukon, Cornelius,
Starting point is 00:24:50 like got held up in contract negotiations. And they couldn't use him. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Maybe it's like a... Is it a... No, it's not really an epilogue because he's grown up like in most of that movie.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's stupid. And so basically, Rudolph tells Baby New Year while the vultures asleep. It's like, hey, you got to embrace yourself. Let me sing you my song. Here this goes. And he's like, oh, that's cool. Take your ears off.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He laughs at him. Even Rudolph, the most bruised by the hatred of others. Yep. Has to laugh at this fucking kid because it's so funny. And this is when he's basically like, well, tough did baby New York because it's fucking funny. And the baby is just like, yeah, I guess so, Rudolph. I guess, no, you know, that's what the moral of the story is. I don't care who you are.
Starting point is 00:25:40 That's funny. Oh, man, you can say what you want. I don't care who you are. That's a funny word. You know what? Grin and bear it, all right? Hey, Rudolph, here's your side. I don't care who you are.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I can say that word by own house. That's a funny word. Yeah. And so basically the baby takes his hat off. He's to keep it off forever. You're beautiful or something. They get the vulture to start laughing. laughing at the baby and then the vulture just like all right that was funny i agree to turn into
Starting point is 00:26:13 ice and snow and die no he doesn't because he's laughing so hard and laughing forever apparently they're like well now he's laughing and he won't have to turn into ice and snow but you can still be father time and okay credits here you come well it makes no sense well it's like you get joker gassed for the rest of time because they're like oh the laughter is going to keep him warm therefore he won't turn into ice and snow and again again Again, I say, big ears aren't funny. So I don't know how this buzzard is laughing for eternity. They have to get him home, by the way.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So this all happens. It's like, oh, we've got to get them home within the 12 bongs of the New Year's side. One happens at gong, gong, like, bongs. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, fucking bongs right in this screenplay. And if you watch this, you might want to have one handy. Oh, you'll need one. Oh, just a couple of tall glasses of water to say the least.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And also, they're like, how the fuck are we going to get back in time? Santa pulls up, and he's like, here's my sleigh, get in. And Rudolph, you get up front and you fucking lead this again. You're not done working yet, reindeer. And I'm like, wait a second. Were you watching them the whole time? Why didn't you intervene at any point? Santa's just been, he's the phantom menace, observing from afar, manipulating.
Starting point is 00:27:31 It's amazing. He's like, I can't she throw all there's snow. That's not a factor at all in this movie. That happens for two seconds. He's in the desert the next scene. Dude, clear his day. Next shot there in that desert. I was like, fuck you, Santa.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You're just tired. Yeah. I mean, the lore of Santa is that he's always watching. He watches you while you sleep. Anybody else looks excited for that crampus movie? I kind of am. Not really. Yeah, I guess I'm the only one.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's fine. It's whatever. I don't know. It might be good. I'm not like not a. excited about it. I'm just not thinking about it ever. I just think it could be fun. I'll say this. I went to see
Starting point is 00:28:08 Crimson Peak in the theater and they had a preview for it and the preview appears as if like they don't really know what kind of a movie they want it to be. That's fair. At least in the preview it's totally all over the place to the point where when the preview is over with, the audience was so confused that one guy was
Starting point is 00:28:25 like, what? And the whole theater started laughing. As if like he didn't understand if it was a real movie or not. I mean, it's got to be a comedy right that's i think it's a horror movie though well i see adam scott i just start giggling oh well dave keckner's in it too i think i mean yeah i'm it's probably going to be like a horror comedy kind of thing i don't know uh was anybody embarrassed watching this because that's the end of it by the way thoroughly yeah sure it was you know i i i'm glad i saw it i guess apparently there's
Starting point is 00:28:55 another one with snow uh with uh frosty they're doing something i guess there's a trilogy of these fuckers you know that's what happens to you make one movie that's a movie into a trilogy the second and third one ain't so good I was not embarrassed in the least this is a beloved holiday classic this could cop out that's right I wouldn't say that I was embarrassed because again I will
Starting point is 00:29:15 watch these rankin and bass things till the cows come home because it's like time traveling I'm there with them I'm there with them drinking that scotch and smoking four packs of cigarettes while recording this shit I'm totally there I wish we had smell ovision it would smell pretty fucking
Starting point is 00:29:31 rank in bass that is animation damnation gang until the new year when baby new year kicks in and a new child dies fast to live so we can make fun of more cartoons steve do you have anything in the pipe on animation damnation that you can tease the audience with well we're coming up in january right are we doing something from this year or not i don't know i got to look into that uh i will say no matter what centurions is coming up centurions oh yeah centurions is coming up uh we're gonna take another visit to transformer land
Starting point is 00:30:09 because it's been too long sure once and some other fun stuff in the in the works there in 2016 hannah barbara hannah barbara is certainly something maybe a scooby-dew because those right that was on my sister's house over thanksgiving i'm like man
Starting point is 00:30:22 what was anybody smoking or do or dude flintstones meets the jetsons or something oh yeah oh actually do you to say what? Because this is, this is animation, damnation, 20, something. Oh yeah, the 20. You want to say what the 25th one is going to be? The 25th episode will be
Starting point is 00:30:39 the Duck Tales movie. Oh, shit. So until 2016, I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Zeta. Eric Siska. Happy New Year.

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