We Hate Movies - S6 Ep236: Episode 236 - Daredevil

Episode Date: February 9, 2016

On this week's episode, the gang takes on the Valentine's 2003 superhero movie, Daredevil! Could Affleck be any stiffer as the titular Devil from Hell's Kitchen? What's with all the Nü Metal on this soundtrack? And could they make a great character like Elektra any more lame? PLUS: Joey Pants wants to remind you that he's from Hoboken. Daredevil stars Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, Colin Farrell, Jon Favreau, Joe Pantoliano, Leland Orser, Erick Avari, and the late, forever great, Michael Clarke Duncan; directed by Mark Steven Johnson.Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All right, let's get this Daredevil episode started. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadak. Eric Siska. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies on the Side Show Network. Thank you for tuning in, as always, this week. We're venturing into the world of Marvel comic book adaptations.

It's Daredevil from 2003, directed by Autour Mark Stephen Johnson. Now, we're talking, by the way, about the director's cut of this film. Oh, God. An extra 30 minutes. 30-ding-dong minutes. Hopefully not an extra 30 minutes of podcast, right, guys? I mean, come on. I mean, we have to give Culeo his due, though.

right? I mean, it wouldn't be fair if we didn't, if we excised Coolio from this podcast entirely. Coelio was fantastic. Now speaking of Coelio, was he cut out entirely from the theatrical cut? Yes. That's what I read online and I did not

get a chance, folks at home, to compare both cuts. I did not get to watch both cuts. Oh no. No, yeah, I saw this movie probably three times twice with the director's cut. I saw one of the theaters I liked it. You know, I probably watched it one time. after that on home video.

You were a big, well, you were a fan of this movie. It was one of those wait and see movies where I needed to age out of it. No, me too. Like the Phantom Menace as well. Like, you know what I mean? No, totally, not me either. Not with the Phantom Menace, but yeah, well, I saw this movie. I think I may have the saddest.

Daredevil tale? Daredevil scenes movie. Well, Steve's wearing a Daredevil t-shirt right here. Oh, well, that's the 2016 saddest daredevil story. It's actually a pretty cool daredevil t-shirt. I wouldn't be caught dead in it, but it looks pretty cool. It's a cool. It's off the Mark Wade run, you know, the recent one, so it's a cool. Oh, yeah, sure. No, I don't know. Everybody knows.

When this movie came out, though, back in Art 3, it came out on Valentine's Day weekend. And I didn't have a Valentine that year. So I went with two friends, a single dude and a single lady. We went to the theater and saw Daredevil together. It was raining, and I had an ear infection. that's seeing Daredevil alone on Valentine's Day everybody who I didn't get a chance to look this up but this is one of the reasons we're doing this is Deadpool comes out on Friday and that's they're sort of shoring that into a Valentine's release too

they're like there's a girl in this movie Jesus Christ and I have to see all these ads with him sitting by a fucking fire and this that and the other thing and it's like you know I know this movie's like hyperviolent and profanity laden and whatnot like I don't need nude Ryan Rennel laying by the fire. Well, I guess he's not nude. He's in his Deadpool costume.

I'll tell you this. I had the invite to go to, like, the Fox exhibitor screening of it. Uh-huh. Skipped it. Oh, no. I was like, I don't want to not be at work for a morning to go watch Deadpool. Oh, man, I do. Yeah.

I don't want to be at work. But Daredevil, the, the, uh, is it, can I call it a TV show? The streamer? The streamer. It's eligible for Emmys that it'll never get. So, yeah, it's a television show. Okay, yeah, that's coming back soon as well. Yes, it's also this month, isn't it?

I think that, yeah, that's either late, no, I think it's March. Spring or summer. Yeah, it's sometime in March and, you know, you got yourself. Yeah, those are months and seasons. That's what the year is made up of, Eric, four seasons. Well, here's the thing is, folks, the sun will continue to go around the earth. That's how that works, right? Yeah.

And time will pass. Yes. So Daredevil is a. Marvel Comics comic book created by so good created by Stan Lee

not so disputed like some of those Stan Lee's get disputed yeah I think this is one of his this is really one of his it's just it's a solo Lee effort is no no Bobbiss finger or whatever

Bill Everett was involved who is the artist Jack Kirby probably designed the costume but nobody knows it's one of those fake things he got fleeced he got everybody got

so Stan Lee came up with the name he's like Staley saw a blind guy I was like that's what I want my comic book to be He saw a blind guy almost get hit by a bus And he's like I don't know how those guys Walked down the street what a dare devil Say

Wouldn't you want to see someone fight that guy Boy I do want to beat the piss out of that blind man I'm forever curious If he'd be able to beat me up I was scoring Ganges in hell's kitchen 16 a 7 When a 7 foot 400 pound Italian man beat the shit out of me

Called himself the Pin King This movie I will say this I went into this movie with high hopes Because at the time It's what I call Andrew Jupin Sin City syndrome I'm the same thing

So like Sin City was coming out I was like This looks cool I don't know anything about it And I bought all those comics. Sure. And with Daredevil, I was like, this movie looks cool. And I bought a ton of Daredevil comics.

Yellow Daredevil, Red Daredevil. I read them all, man. And I got so psyched. There was a yellow one? There was like a storyline where he had a yellow costume for some reason. Yeah, it was like one of Jeff Loeb and Tim Saylor who did Batman Long Halloween, did a couple things from Marvel. Oh, okay. Yeah, I read that one.

They were all origin stories. There was Daredevil yellow, Spider-Man, Blue, Hulk Grey, and other stuff. And, you know, I was super excited for this movie. And this, by the way, if no one remembers, or if someone doesn't remember, this is Ben Affleck playing Matt Murdoch. Wait, what? Ben Affleck. I did not remember that. Oh, wait. Were we supposed to watch this? Oh, man. This is going to be rough.

Jennifer Garner, his now ex-wife as Electra Nacios. That's the beginning of this failed relationship. That's true. The great R-I-P-D Michael Clark Duncan as the Kingpin, which, is a glowingly positive part of this movie. Also, some balzy casting. Oh, yeah. This is like, and I remember, too, at the time, everybody was like, Oh, my God, but the kingpin's a white man.

Mom, help jerk me off. Oh, my goodness. And then you watch this movie, and it sucks ass except for Michael Clark Duncan, though underused, is great in this movie. Truly the only way to get over some cross race count casting is to have your mother stimulate your orgasm. That's the only way to get through it. Oh, of course. Couldn't hurt.

I mean, so Daredevil, his whole thing, which we'll get into, he's blinded. He gets blinded by radioactive waste, which still seems silly to me. Like, they should just get that, remove that from the whole thing. That's like legit comic book origin. It was waste.

And it was in Hell's kitchen in these barrels? Like, what was GE dumping it in the Hudson? They were trying to make themselves some chuds and accidentally had a side effect of a daredevil. Dude, chud runoff will always be a danger in this city. You have to be vigilant New Yorkers. You never know when you

could be turned into a chud. I will wear goggles I wear goggles every time I go on the subway because I just don't know what's going to happen. Honestly, that's just good. That's just good thinking man. Like that subway's disgusting. So he's got, you know, radar sense. Bat vision.

Yeah. So he's a blind. Okay, no. He becomes blind. from the radioactive waste which then has an effect that gives him sight. Okay. That evens it out. It's the playing field. It's basically sight. But he's also got like superhearing, his touches

like height. All his other senses are heightened. That happens when you lose a sense. Everything else is heightened. Yes, but heightened to the point where he can be a superhero though. Same thing happens to me when I bite my tongue. I'm like, I can't taste now. Is that what happens when you bite your tongue is your whole sense of taste?

just turns off. That's right. That's fascinating. You should go to a doctor. If I stub my toe, I can't feel anything anymore. All right, so he's a blind superhero. Here's a big problem I have with the start of this movie. The title design of the beginning is just a bunch of braille flip-flaping across the screen and then it eventually spells out the names of the actors. You want to hear something embarrassing? It took me a little while to figure out it was braille. Oh, man, that is embarrassing. I forgot he was blind. What did you think you were watching? I don't know.

And you've seen the show. I really liked the TV show. Not as much as you should. Well, it's been a while. Turns out the blindness is a crucial plot point. It is. But again, Daredevil is blind in quotes. Yeah.

I mean, it's a fake blind. It's a fake blonde. Yeah, he's, uh, I don't know. I don't think, yeah, he's, he's just like taking someone else's disability. What a Seinfeld episode? Oh, you think he's just doing it for the parking, the handicapped, I don't think Daredevil could drive a car. I think, to be quite honest,

Daredevil behind the wheel is dangerous. But what if it's raining? He could totally drive a car. Also, I guess he opens the windows. Yeah. You can hear stuff. Listen, if Al Pacino can pull it off without superpowers.

In everyday life or is there a movie? No. Sense of a woman. He's gone. Oh, okay, yeah. That's the original origin of Daredevil. He was juggling grenades. For the generals.

Oh, that is the best part of that movie. Oh, absolutely. Hooha, I'm just juggling grenades in the jungle. Bradley Winfords just being a dick over Thanksgiving or whatever. I think that is cinema's most uncomfortable holiday gathering. Holy shit. Oh, did he tell you when he was juggling grenades? Oh, man.

No, he didn't tell me. It's in the middle of the movie. And then he's just stared off at the wall. Are they making fun of me for staring at grenades again? For juggling grenades? So this movie does a thing that I hate Where it's like we everything Well we don't think that our movie starts off exciting or interesting enough

So we have to start at the end of the movie But this is like we start at the end of the movie For like six seconds And then it's like flashback to the beginning of the movie Which using the clunkiest device Which is they say every time you die You your whole life flashes right before your eyes everyone settle in audience. I know it's

2003. That's a death cliche. That is a death cliche. Well, that doesn't happen. To be fair also, it's not even his entire life. It's like one week when he was a kid. Yes. And then the last two weeks of him being Daredevil. We don't see him like really deciding to be Daredevil. Or going to law school? Or going to law school. I mean, that's what's awesome about that show. That whole first season is him

like rising up to become what we know as Daredevil To be fair And I was thinking about this on the train I don't think it's entirely fair To compare the show to the movie Just because they have so much more time Yes, no I know

I mean this movie takes two and a half hours To do nothing And I mean like we don't even hear We don't even see Michael Clark Duncan Until like 46 minutes in On the director's cut It's also another one of these things Where these superhero movies

The shoving so many villains What we got Kingpin We got we sort of electrified father is like a crime so-and-so. As Steve correctly pointed out, the whee-in-the-juice guy from Encino Man. Bravo, what a poll. I couldn't even believe it.

And then Bullseye. It's like you're stuffing these three guys in there. And it's like, you don't need that. No, you don't. I mean, I think you'd probably cut Bullseye out of this movie and then you'd give Kingpin some stuff to do, which they actually, again, the show, which I just said we shouldn't compare it to.

That's what they do. Bullseye isn't in that first season at all. There's no, it's just Wilson Fisk Because he's interesting enough And it's like a source, like crime associates of Wilson Fisk Like that dude that becomes like the owl or whatever that dude's fucking problem is I see, I always think about him as the warden who blows his brains out in Shawshank Oh, the cops are at the door

Is that going to be on Periscope next week? Depend. Or tomorrow? Dude, that's what all those plastic sheets are up in the corner of the room there. We're just going to tie him up next door. You got the place fixed up real nice. A couple mattresses on the wall. A bunch of light beer.

Yeah, that's how you do it, by the way, folks at home. Oh, yeah. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's ways to popular. Like, he could have a number two that's pretty cool that's not necessarily bullseye. It just, it needs to be a non-gimicky villain. You know what I mean? Because, like, the cool thing about the kingpin is he doesn't really have any power. He's just a big strong guy that loves.

murdering people, which is awesome. Like Michael Clark Duncan's first scene in this movie, he bashes a dude's head in with his awesome big cane and then just picks a dude up with one hand and breaks his neck up against a wall. And you're like, wow, this is a menacing guy.

And then Colin Farrell comes straight off the set of cruising and you're like, well, this isn't a menacing villain except that he can throw paper clips and people's necks and who could care. What the hell is that, though? Like, wait. That's a bullseye. He says a bullseye.

Bullseye. Wait, so he can throw things at super speed and make a paper clip deadly enough to pierce a chubby man's neck. Yeah, he pierces that dude's George Lucas gobbler. But like, what? That's like precision. You know, it's like accuracy. Did he get, did what body part got exposed to radioactive waste?

I think you know if you're asking. I just want to hear it Yeah, I also like to think of that guy Who gets killed in that pub As the same guy Who gets stabbed at the end of train spotting By Begby He's like, oh, fuck you

I mean, it's Scotland and Ireland But he's like, fuck you, if you can't hold a pint Get out of the pub And he gets like broken his face It's amazing Yeah, that guy, it's a dude Just Mouthing off to Colin Farrell And he just turns around and murders him

Well, they're both doughy dudes That shouldn't be mouthing off to any Like, you know what? You lost your bar bet. Leave it alone. Also, like, if you're playing darts with this dude and he's like not looking at the dartboard and he's throwing bullseye after bullseye after bullseye, clearly

there's some sort of ability here and you shouldn't mess with that guy. He keeps saying call me bullseye. Yeah, clearly he's done this before and you can tell under his shitty skull cap that he probably carved a bullseye into his head. Which doesn't make any...

This bullseye, we can get to do it. He's the worstest... You don't want to hire Bullseye as an assassin, right? Bullseye in this movie. In this movie. Yeah, he's going to get the job done, but he's going to murder 12 people. Leave a trail up to the murder that you hire him to do

and make it very obvious that he did the killing. Also, he's going to be menacing TSA agents at the airport, which we see Colin Farrell doing in this movie. And it's like, I'm sorry. A lot of the time those people are assholes, but, like, you can't fuck with them. Like, they're taking you down. You know what I mean?

And he's, like, sexily flicking around a paperclip in his mouth and, like, taunting this dude. This is post 9-11. Oh, yeah, dude. This is a different America. He's a bullseye up as, you know, watch it. If he's not, you know, you've got to go through security, cautious. It's amazing. Like, the Muslim guy in front of him got pulled off, but the guy with the bullseye carved into his head.

Just because he's a white guy gets to get on the plane. There's this dumbass moment. Right at the end of that scene where he like looks at a like bomb sniffing dog Like just looks at him And the dog's like Oh stop it And like the dog does some great dog acting

And like cowers down And it's like yep he's that powerful The weird thing about this movie is I guess like Because I mean in the superhero movie Pantheon This is like after Spider-Man After the first X-Men and after those Blade movies Yes But it's still very much Tim Burton Batman

Is what we're cribbing from here We're really making a gothic Manhattan here. I mean, so much so that, like, the beginning of this movie, it's not even, like, they didn't even bother to take a helicopter out and shoot the city. It's all just a shitty computer Manhattan. And it looks bad. Like, you know, 12 years on, like, it looks terrible.

13 years on. This is, yeah, I can't believe it's been that long. Yeah. But a lot of this movie is so disgusting because the way portrays New York, it's all like, it's like the Paramount Back lot. Nothing about it looks actually like New York. Not in the slightest, no. They didn't shoot this in New York, right?

It reminds me of if you ever been on the Universal Studios King Kong ride. Like that's kind of where they shot some of these scenes. Dude, if like the no longer existing L train came around the corner and then that giant ape king came around and grabbed the car, I'd buy it. And then the fire comes and you get really hot inside there. Dude, I have a feel.

even though you're right that it's not fair we're going to keep coming back to the show but another thing the show does well it fucking films in New York City and you use that and it looks good and I mean the show like kind of the movie does this too a little bit is like in Ben Affleck's

completely useless voiceover narration oh yikes he's like they're trying to call it Clinton now but it'll always be Hell's Kitchen to me nobody calls it Clinton anyway FYI yeah oh oh one of my favorite parts of this flag

Back, by the way, we got a young Robert Eiler. Is that his name? Am I saying, you right? Anthony Soprano Jr. as one of the bullies? Oh, yeah. And another gross inaccuracy, because we're just filming this wherever and nobody cares anyway. It's supposed to be like, you know, whenever a 2003 Ben Affleck would have been like a 12-year-old kid. What, 80 something, like 82 or 83?

They are dressed like 2003 kids. Robert Eiler's got his same dumb ass. You know, Anthony Jr. hair flipped up in the front haircut. Who picks on a blind kid? That's my question. It's really bad. I do. Yeah? How's that working out for you? I can't cite examples on the air. Get in trouble.

But you've got to be a real shithead to pick on a blind kid. It is kind of awesome to see him getting constantly whipped in the face by this walking stick, though. Him and like the two bullies that he's walking with. It's amazing because they pick on him before he goes blind. And then they're like, oh, good, he's blind. He deserves to get beaten even more now And you're like, wait, what? He won't see it coming.

That kid's mother's dead and his dad's like an alcoholic boxer. Maybe we should leave him alone. Yeah. How does he afford hell's kitchen? That's a good question. I mean, the weird thing is like in the show and the comics is Daredevil gets trained by stick and by various whatever. Like, for some reason, him going blind gives him karate.

abilities and you know what I mean like he just yeah he magically has it he trains himself on a rooftop they show him like he's like oh my body was responding to being blind and I knew how to balance do back flips and like yeah but you wouldn't know how to do karate yeah like what are you talking about he slides down one banistered he's Bruce Lee so this is a white guy karate movie kind of um I don't know I have a feeling if like the hand had come in more then you're getting some white guy karate but the hand stays out of it stick is not present yeah there's no ninjas in this movie it does have

a you know like a boxing ring and if karate had happened within it maybe but I guess this is more of a of a stupor hero movie you like that this movie wants to be Spider-Man really bad

that first Sam Ramey movie it's like it's like mixing Tim Burton's Batman with Sam Ramey Spider-Man yeah totally it's like the I don't even know how to say it but like the the cinematography of a Spider-Man movie our cameras like flying all over the place

crazy angles, a lot of computer with like the darker sensibilities of a Batman movie and he turns into a cartoon every time he's about to do something mildly interesting it's like here comes my cartoon dude it's like Linda Carter

when she turned from the cartoon of Wonder Woman like into Linda Carter just in reverse. I thought it was playing Tekken or something These weird big blocky dudes all of a sudden And you know later on when there's a fight with Bullseye It's slow-mo C-G big mistake God

The other thing that I don't Care for and I know it is in the comics But he doesn't do it on the show Again show comparison But man that fucking swimming pool that he sleeps in It sucks That little coffin that he's got I kind of want that

Dude, it's like a coffin with rainwater in it. Like, it's so disgusting. That's because he can see rainwater, right? Yeah. That's the whole thing. No, he does it to drown out all of his senses so he can go to sleep. Sensure. Sensory, uh, deprivation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like altered states without all the cool stuff. Nobody turns into a monkey for no reason in the middle of that movie. Exactly right. That's where I was going. I could use a vicious ape in this. Oh, yeah, dude. Just running a muck in the city? Oh, yeah.

Maybe. Yeah, please, let him stop something fantastical. Colin Farrell's not in. Listen, though, that malicious ape better stay west of 9th Avenue but twixt, you know, 51 and 43. That's a great question. Is there, like, jurisdiction? Like, Daredevil's like, pf, you know,

on Spider-Man's terror if you, like, turns around and goes home. Exactly, dude. It's like, that's Kipps Bay's problem now, you know what I mean? I think Kipps Bay is where the Fantastic Four hangout. And, you know, people have heard. it by now hopefully but like hell's kitchen is not big it is pretty small well that's the funny thing about that show is that they they refer to everything this who's gonna run hell's kitchen you mean those six blocks like i mean i don't know you have it wilson fiske i'll just walk over

to time square and never be bothered by you which is like really easy to do dude i would love it if like michael clark duncan in this movie and like a deleted seat is chasing joe pantelli down the street and like he crosses 8th Avenue and there's like a barricade and the kingpin just runs into it like wow oh my god they're under the dome there's a dome under yeah hell's kitchens under the dome that would be the only way that any of this makes sense like why is he not going to union square to fight somebody like if he jumps on the 14th street is it a problem maybe he doesn't know he doesn't have a metro card oh that's right there are hard times in hell's kitchen he can't afford a metro car so dare devil

murders a lot of people in this movie, like gleefully? And that is a function of the director's cut, I do believe, is we've got, we have Colin Farrell says fuck at one point in this movie. Yeah. We have that entire useless Coelio subplot. Sweet mother. Yeah. The other thing about it, though, is that the movie is much more violent.

Yes. And I think, like, Daredevil murdering this rapist in the subway, I think is kind of playing into that. Yeah, he basically, Matt Murdoch, I guess, is in a civil suit, because it doesn't make sense for him to be part of a rape case otherwise. I thought he was wearing a business suit. Yikes. More of those coming

up. Someone just, stop. Not today. We hate movies. Click. No, but yeah, I mean, he's a defense attorney. So I don't know. Like, I guess it's a civil suit between the woman and the guy.

And for some reason, he's not being tried as a criminal case. It doesn't make any sense. What are you talking about? Matt Murdoch is defending the woman in the rape case but he's a defense attorney Yeah

So why is he It's not a criminal case It's a lawsuit Oh oh I see what you're saying He's finally putting OJ away Yeah Well is it a thing Like do they actually specify in this movie though

That he is a defense attorney Or they just not paying attention Because they're making the daredevil That's what I'm not sure The woman is sitting with him It's like she is a defendant And like she cries at one point So there's that

Yeah I Whatever man But the point is this rapist goes Scott free because it's the Hell's Kitchen court or whatever. Also, I don't think there's any courthouses over there. Whatever, this pretend world where anyone

gives a shit this much about Hell's Kitchen. Literally, honestly, go to your, wherever you are, drive for a quarter of a mile and you've gone way past Hell's Kitchen. Like, watch. Put that in your GPS. One quarter mile in any direction. And you've gone

way too far from Hell's Kitchen. Although maybe, Maybe Nightcourt is set in Hell's kitchen. Oh, shit. This movie could have used some bull and laraquette, man. Wouldn't that be great if he was going up to Nightcourt and doing all, you know, doing his law stuff in Nightcourt? That would make a lot of sense, actually. The movie cuts to four by three. There's like a laugh track.

It would be a big risk for Fox, but, you know. There'd be a lot of tasteless blind jokes because it's Nightcourt. Yeah, yeah, exactly right. so whatever yeah he's defending this woman the rapist gets off so then it's daredevil's turn to deliver some justice well he goes again to some bar which is like a club and this is the bar that's where they hang out that see this is what was weird is it's that josie's bar which in the show is where they all hang out and whatnot in this movie it's like a biker bonded strip club type place and it's enormous and like yeah exactly you could it's something out of blade honestly it's a bit blade i was thinking it's more sin cities esk yeah no that's that's that's a also true. They're doing Jessica Alba dancing around there possibly. They're doing some like biker motorcycle contest and like the bartenders clearly had

enough of it like ain't no burnouts you dead beats. It'd be great if they you know you're walking around and you go inside of a bar and you turn black and white for some reason and everyone's swearing and drinking whiskey and you're like oh shit it's that Sin City bar. Ew. Elijah Woods just being really

really weird in the corner and won't take off those glasses. You see Clive Owen go to the bathroom and he comes out Josh Brolin is it? But does he does he have red Chuck Taylor's on the whole time? That's the one

thing that's got. I might live in that bar then. I don't know. It's a nice way. There's too much stimulation outside. So Daredevil comes into this place and he's hanging from the rafters and they look and they're like hey that guy looks like he's up to no good and they're like yeah probably

and then this fight breaks out. I mean it's everyone's got a machine gun first and foremost. Yeah, talk about no stealth though, daredevil. You know what I mean? Like wait till he goes to his car and then beat him up. Stock that guy in the alley. Exactly. This is New York City. That's what alleys are there for.

It's a fictional hell's kitchen, which I think is only alleys. There's no actual streets or building. It's only alleys. It's their coffee shop, their law firm, that courthouse, fucking night nurse's apartment. Where's night nurse

in this movie? She's not hanging out. Yeah. too bad. Now, night nurse is a character? It's Rosera Dawson. Oh, okay. They collar that in the comic books. They don't mention that in the show, though. No, they don't. I mean, she's a night nurse, but she's not the... See if there's a night nurse,

there's a night court. See the fantastic Gregory Isaac's album, Night Nurse, by the way. Oh, Lord, please, oh. So he basically... Big old murder fest. One thing about Daredevil's problem... If I was Daredevil, if I was a blind superhero that's trying and let

No one know that I'm blind? How much have you thought if I was daredevil? How I go to sleep every night. In a fucking coffin filled with water. That's why you go to sleep. You take a shower. You don't dry yourself. You just go to bed soaking wet.

That's actually pretty great. He saves on towel usage, though. I guess. There's no pillow in that bed though. Fuck that. Well, this might be good for having no pillow. Is he going to the bathroom at night in that thing? I don't know.

It might pay off not to get up to go to the bathroom. I mean, I think you would probably accident. Have you slept in water like that? You would accidentally pee yourself. It's a full body treatment of the hand trick. Exactly. Is it a stagnant pool or is it like filtering in and out so I could take a tinkle while I'm sleeping? He does put in bath salts before he goes to bed.

That's why he gets all crazy. That's what I'm saying. He comes home and he like chucks a bunch of vicarate in and perkinset or whatever. to like, because to kill the pain. I'm like, dude, you got bad salts, brother. Yeah, start smoking that shit. Also, you know he's a tough dude because he's just chewing those painkillers.

No taking him back with water for this superhero. So, yeah, big fight, kills a bunch of people. Somehow lights two pool tables on fire. Yeah, I don't know how that happens. It just, by the end of this fight, everybody's dead, and there's two pool tables on fire. And he's chasing this dude

out of the bar. The one thing I was trying to say is that his weakness is that he's hypersensitive. So if a loud noise comes, that's going to fuck up his senses and really hurt his ears. If that's the case, you can't cover your ears and go,

ohie, owie, my ears every time that happens when you're trying to hunt and kill a man. That's true. Because that's going to give him the upper hand. Which is something that Bullseye finds out later in the movie. I don't know how Bullseye is the first one

to figure it out. Because every time anyone drops a glass, he goes, ooh. Owe, ow, y, ow, yeah, wow, y, oh, bo, bo, bo, blah, blah, blah, blah. Can he hear, like, the dog frequency? Oh, that's cool. Yeah, could he be defeated in a Russell Madness way where you hide a dog whistle on yourself, and you can, you can, you can, that's how you outwit, daredevil. Or Gene Hackman sends a signal only he can hear. Yeah.

All the dogs are barking? The brown note. The brown note is, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's, a signal, That's the mythical one where you poo, right? Yeah. Yeah. Your frequency, you only hear. So he basically makes this guy drop on a subway platform and let him get run over, which is kind of my, our hero, ladies and gentlemen, because this guy could be wrapped up and like, you know, whatever.

Right, but like, I don't know, man. I kind of am totally fine with this because it's like, this is the kind of superhero I like. A murderer? A murderer? The punisher, you know what I mean? No one's fucking bitching when the Punisher kills somebody. Because he's the Punisher. Well, why can't...

Dude, this is a man dressed up like the devil. Well, this is... Okay, here's what Daredevil did. What Daredevil did? He put that conductor through so much pain. He's going to be going to counseling. Thank you. He just murdered someone.

Did he jump? Either way, it's horrific. I've taken a life by doing my job of, you know... That conductor was texting, though, so don't worry about it. He's been sent up the river. Yeah, he was at Rikers before this dude would have been at Rikers. How was he texting? Where is he writing? The fictional Boston departed train?

How's he getting a signal in 2003? That's actually true. We kind of have texting now in the subway, but not so much in 2003. Well, also, this is a subway station that New York City has never seen before. I mean, the Matrix looked more realistic. So Joey Pants is hot on the case And like he's basically Speaking of the Matrix

And I shudder to even say this And Alexander Knox knockoff Well this is a dare devil character Yeah Ben Eurek is around Played by a better actor in the show Obviously Yeah he is Noxian in his

Nauseous behavior in this movie And even they have a He's like oh I have an artist's sketch Of the Daredevil And it's like it's a like it's this gargoyle come to life and I'm like

if anyone saw this dude they'd be like oh it's a guy in a red leather outfit with a hat on I'm not sure this could be the daredevil

or it could be the trooper either way we got a problem of Nail's kitchen what sucks though is like they don't have

like this like any kind of universe set up yet right like so they don't acknowledge in this movie that Spider-Man sure

is down the block but no is this that is this that is a good question. Is this a cinematic universe of any way? Because there's an electric spinoff, yeah, there is.

So this is, like, this is the start. This is like the genesis. But what I'm saying is, with regard to the Joey Pan's thing, though, is like he has a ridiculous picture of a monster. And it's like, that clearly looks like a monster, but there's nothing else in the

universe of this movie to be like, yeah, well, that fucking thing the other day was a big green man on a flying sled. So, you know, yeah. sure my gargoyle can be real whatever it's like he could yeah if spider man was happening co-currently he could go ask spider-man you know hey spider-man yeah does this take place in the world of gargoyles perhaps hey goliath you you guys are killing people on this subway or what no we are not what about bronx and brooklyn and queens and whatever the other gargoyles would name were they

were they all named after burrows yes they were man statin statin's kind of a cool name Staten. I remember I got pissed because the dog's name was Bronx in Gargoyles. And I was like, come on, the dog named after the dog. There was definitely a Brooklyn.

I don't think there wasn't So there wasn't that many of them then? No. Was there like a Nassaw? Like we branching out? Nassau. Everybody hated Nassau. Bergen.

New Jersey's Bergen County. They called the bathroom the Tappet Z Bridge for some reason. They failed A Fairfield, Connecticut, get out of the can. You've got to take a shit. No one was named Hudson, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, I think you're right on that one. Man, it's been a while since I've watched that cartoon. Well, because you're a Grota Delt. That's true. Well, maybe we can do it on animation damnation so I can watch it. Yeah, there's a couple of bad ones. Oh, here's another bad thing about this movie. Please.

This episode is just a laundry list of problems we have. Well, it's a two and a half hour cut about Coolio go in a court, all right? So, you know, forgive me, but I'm not going to take us through bit by bit. Let's take us through bit by bit. Now, Culeo is he's fighting a murder beef that he did not commit. That's correct. He's innocent because Daredevil listens to his heartbeat. Right.

And it doesn't raise when he says that he's innocent. Right. He listens and then the sonar waves of truth come out of his heart. That's right. And he's like, I will represent you because as a lawyer, I can only represent innocent people. Which is not the way it works. I mean, everyone's got a right to a trial. Also, there's things like mafia lawyers.

Those guys know what's up. They do know what's up. That should be like the bad guy. Like, is there an evil like mafia lawyer? I'm sure there must be. That'd be great. Well, like Wesley's kind of a, he's probably got a law degree. Yeah, well, no, he says at the end when he gets arrested that he's, uh, I'll get my lawyers on it or whatever.

Oh, whatever the fuck out. Oh, yeah, there's definitely a, yeah, that's the thing is evil lawyers come in teams. Yes. Oh, so what I was going to say was John Favreau's in this movie playing Foggy Nelson. Yikes. Yikes. Yes, yikes. What, I mean, the thing I'll say is, like, this movie possibly sort of supposedly got him the Iron Man gig.

Sure. Which is cool because that's an awesome movie. He did a good job directing it. But, like, man, and any iteration of this foggy character, I hate. I hate him on the show. He's not anyone's favorite. Well, he can sure fill out of frame, though. It just sucks because, like, he's the one thing, not the one thing, but a big problem with, like, the tonal imbalance of this movie.

Because, like, I just want a gritty-ass goddamn daredevil movie. And the show gets around it better because it, like, screws him over a lot more and he's just, like, constantly angry at Matt Murdoch and whatever. But, like, this movie, it's like, we're trying to do Gothic whatever. And then Favro comes in. He's making fucking jokes about switching honey with mustard and all this. And I'm just like, this isn't my daredevil. movie. I don't need this comedy here. It'd be great if during that, like he got his head blown off

and a drive-by. Just totally murdered? Bullseye. Exactly. Bullseye. Also, don't say your name after you kill people. Yeah. notorious assassin. Yeah, I mean, Fabro's not

my least favorite part of this movie. I actually think Ben Affleck is probably best in those scenes with him because that's what Ben Affleck does well. Is like... Coffee shop. buddy scenes. Yeah, like judo comedy. Like, you know what I mean? Like he's the straight man. Just like Batman, right? Yeah. Oh, God. Hey, guys, get ready to laugh in a few weeks. Another reason. Here's something. Yeah. Yeah. The hair color on Matt Murdoch.

Oh, my God. They just took Ben Afflex hair and dipped it in like red ink or something. He looks like Diet Cherry Dr. Pepper. Like, that's what his hair color is. It's really bad. The kid playing Matt Murdoch, like young Matt Murdoch also looks like a terrible dye job. What's the point? It's not a color that appears naturally in nature. So then this kid and this guy, this blind guy, is dyeing his hair every couple of weeks. That dirtbag kid had it before he spilled all that radioactive waste on his face. Oh, maybe that's what it was.

He dyed his hair for the summer because he was until like Green Day or whatever. And just like the radioactive goo, not only did it make all of his senses interesting. and him blind. It stuck that dye. That's your hair color forever, kid. Oh, shit. That's like the Joker. See, that's what it should have been.

All that gloop that got all over him dyed his hair, an alien shade of red. He looks like Sharon Osborne. Like, it's fucking terrible. It looks so stupid. It's so useless. And I know that the characters got red hair. Congratulations. Just move on.

Well, actually, that brings us to another thing. We're trying to be, like, really accurate with these character looks, right? Man, oh, man, the green contacts that Jennifer Garner is given to, like, look more like Electra. Oh, my God. Me, yow. Those are some terrible looking contacts. Who could ever care? Would any, you've got, I mean, not to be crass, but you've got a black kingpin.

You're going to fucking put contact in these girls' eyes? Oh, my God. First, kingpin's black. Now she's got contacts. Oh, this is just ridiculous. Mom, get her. over here. Man,

but, you know, it's a poor representation of electro nachos. What's her name? Electra nachios. Nachios. Yeah. What is that?

Greek. It's supposed to be Greek. No any Greeks with green eyes. I sound like a character from Big Trouble in Little China. Chinese girl with green eyes. Very rare. I was going to say, like, you sound like, you sound

like one of my uncles Hey You ever see a this look like that And so on and so forth You ever see a black kingpin? Ma, get over here! All right. Is this movie an action movie?

Is it a romance? Is it a detective story? Is it a fucking Culeo murder mystery or what? It is closest to a Culeo murder mystery. Honestly, I will take the Culeo murder mystery.

over every other part of this movie. One thing I say, one thing I came away with this time, because like Steve, I've seen this movie a bunch of times, I own the director's cut on DVD. This is the second time I've seen it, I think. Hey, you're fine.

Culeo is kind of a good actor. Like, he's not great, but he's like, at least entertaining. It's just not for this movie. He's better than Ben Affleck is. I would rather have Cooleo play Daredevil. Oh, my God. I can't believe they catch.

Cooleon. as the murderer that Matt Murdaughey's got a good thing. Fucking Coalio, Matt, get over here. God. Oh, my Lord. We're going to go again because I got shit to say on the internet. Man, our website has gotten weird. And in cool news, ain't going to troll itself.

Get over here, Ma. All right. So Ben Afflex fucking sucks in this movie, right? Oh, sure. And I'm kind of a defender of Ben Affleck. I am too. I like Ben Affleck, man. I think he's a likable presence in movies.

I do think that, you know, like, when Argo came out and everyone was like, oh, why wasn't he nominated for best director? I think people were like, yeah, you still owe us for Daredevil. They're like, yeah, you were a fine director, but yeah, you still owe us for Daredevil. Sorry. Yeah, I mean, this has been a harder thing to kind of live down. I mean, I don't know if I saw a Ben Affleck movie between this and Argo. I mean, I'm sure there were things in between. that I caught but like I couldn't tell you

but I could damn well tell you where I was watching this Benapleck movie you don't forget seeing Daredevil fucking sticks with you like that like that burn on Colin Farrell's head in this movie What does everybody think of the costume? I think it's pretty cool. I do too. I think it's actually

better than the TV show. Really? The only thing in the Venn diagram of thing Well like his like bullshit Zorro costume for most of the first series or like when he's Daredevil at the end When he's Daredevil at the end. Oh, I see, yeah.

I like the, because I don't mind the pervert costume he's running around in for the, like, he looks like a... I like that. He looks like the Man Hunter or... He does know the Red Dragon. Yeah, he was like the Rise of the Red Dragon. Oh, he looks like Tom Noonan. Yeah, he really does. Yeah, the costume is, yeah.

It's like a red leather thing. The mask looks okay, I think. I just don't like the double D on the chest there. That's just stupid. It's like a monogram shirt, kind of. Yeah, it is. Electra is totally neutered in this thing. Lecter's supposed to be an assassin.

She is an assassin through and through in the comics. I thought she was supposed to be the love interest, maybe girlfriend. Yes, but she's also an assassin. Really? She's not just like, oh, my dad is Greek and I saw my mother die. I also know karate for some reason. You may have heard of my billionaire father, the whee's in the juice guy. God.

But it sucks, though, because you're right, she does nothing. this movie. Like, it's supposed to be more like a, like, Batman and Catwoman are fucking. Yeah. You know what I mean? But, like, Catwoman is also capable of like being badass and doing a bunch of shit. This movie, she's like, my mom's dead. Meep.

Oh, no, now my dad's dead. Double meep. But it's only after that double meep that she's like, I'm going to train with some sandbags. Maybe I'll throw some size around like my favorite Ninja Turtle Raphael. Can we talk about her introduction

scene, which is that playground fight? Oh, man, the flirt fight? Hashtag flirt fight. God, this is terrible. So, Ben Affleck and Foggy Nelson are in the whatever, in the restaurant. They're at, there's central perk, if you will. Yes, and they're having a fun

conversation. And she comes into, like, drink a cup of coffee and like, Ben Affleck flirts with her or whatever. Matt Murdoch is he a good-looking dude? He looks like Ben Affleck. He's fine. Does he know that, though? Oh, that's cool. I guess he will. I mean, you can feel your own face. Yeah. You're like, hey, I'm not fat. I'm attractive. Yeah. I'm ignorant. I'm sorry, everyone. He takes a shower and he's like, wow, I'm really good looking.

Oh, right. Right, because he could see shower. He's definitely got, he's got a bunch of mirrors in his shower. He should just become Aquaman or something, right? Water is his friend. Yeah. Oh, I guess he would be poisoned to death in the Hudson River, though. Yeah. You can't get a swim. So, um, he like flirts. with her and she's like, yeah, thanks, and starts to leave. And he starts following her out of this coffee shop. Well, that's how you do it. And she's like, I said, I'd like to be left alone. And he grabs her arm, too.

And then they start flirt fighting. And I'm like, this guy just killed two people last night. Now he's just like stalking this lady. Yeah, like, what kind of movie am I watching you? This is the daredevil I grew up with. Is this drive? What happened? So they start fighting on a playground.

And all these kids are like, yay, white people are fighting in New York. And, like, they all run... Fucking finally! And they're just, like, on a bunch of seesaws, and it takes forever. But isn't it just fun? No. No. It's slow.

You can tell how, like, badly rehearsed these fight moves are. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's really bad. It's embarrassingly bad. That's the thing is... I could fight better than this. Dude, they fell in love during this fight choreography, though. But, I mean, this fight, it is embarrassing.

It's so stupid. but it goes nowhere. He's incredibly stiff this entire movie. I don't know why. Maybe it's just the posture of the red suit. He just doesn't really like move his neck at all.

I think he thinks that's tough. Yeah. That's why, I think that's why he's like demanding that Batman be only in a suit of armor. Was that a demand of his? I imagine. I have no idea.

Because like, oh my God, that preview with Batman getting into like a, A gun damn suit. No thank you. Well, it's like a gun damn so he can fight Superman, right? Right. And then I guess go to outer space and fart around or whatever else he does.

I just, it's gotten to a point where that movie is just like an odd curiosity. I mean, I want to see it, but I feel like it can't be good, right? No, it's at the point where I'm like, I should buy a ticket for one thing and then go see it. Because I don't want to give it money, but like I want to see it. But, I mean, if he's playing Batman, as stiff as he's playing this daredevil, we're in trouble, folks. I mean, the thing is, we're... I mean, we won't be affected all that much. Batman versus Superman, whoever wins, we lose?

Yeah, I think so. Well, the Internet's certainly going to hear about it. But the funny thing is like... Mom, get over here. He famously was like, oh, I can't believe I made that terrible Daredevil movie. I'll never do another superhero movie. And then, like, just when... It's like a gambling addict

Like just when he gets your good graces back Like he makes that Argo movie He's pretty okay and gone girl I think he's very good in Gone Girl The town is a really good movie Yes All those things are just like Yeah it's the it's

Affleck Affleckis songs Yes God Damn it Well you know It's really hard to say These words we're making up Yes that's true

Because he's just And it's just like Oh yeah And like Hollywood's ready To give him the key Hollywood again. They're like, whatever movie you want to make, Ben Affleck. Well, set it in Boston for you. He's on track to be the next George Clooney. Another man who survived a superhero debacle and was coming out on top. But no.

Clooney never looked back, man. No, but he's just... You got to Orpheus that shit. Just keep your eyes forward. Do not be like, but I could be Batman. Like, no, you shouldn't. And of course, Zach Snyder's going to be there. So it's going to smell like farts. It's just not going to be good. Whoa, now Wonder Woman's here. Is she with you? I thought she was with you. Oh, she's not with me. While holding a gun, says Batman.

He's got some fucking rifle or something in that scene. And then Doomsday shows up and who could care? Now, what's his deal? He's some alien or something? Yeah. And he's made out of General Zod's corpse. Oh, is that? I think that's what they're applying.

That's sure. I saw a new, I don't know if it was new, But I saw a trailer with it that had Michael Shannon's corpse in it. What? Yeah, they were unzipping his body bag or something. Oh, man, oh, man. Yeah, get ready for that, everyone. That's the trailer that shows you the entire film.

The trailer has a three-act structure and credits. And the best actor in it is laying dead on a board. Oh, you know what? He's doing a lot in this movie. It's fucking gross as smelling her. Yeah. He's constantly getting an upcliffe. and personal whiff of this chick and it's weird so we're talking about the rain thing so like they go

on a date and he's talking to her and blah blah blah right and it's about to rain he's like oh no no wait wait wait wait it's gonna rain and i'll finally be and this is like kind of your spider man upside down kiss i guess that's what they hoped it would be yeah for sure because it's like oh it's about to rain and i'll finally be able to see you and then like i think the evanescence song is starting in the back Evan essence has two songs in this movie. Oh, yeah, they're big one, and then they're not so big one. You mean all of them? Well, the big one, the one that I was aware of.

Wake me up. Wake me up inside. But take me down. I don't want to hide. Here comes the rap part, everybody. All the things got to work on me. I'm about to my show on the phone of me. Where she's dancing around.

I've been waiting a thousand years, it seems. Wake me up. I'm a vampire Don't start it now Well she's stabbing all these sandbags That training montage Because she's really sad Yeah

The other one though Is I think during this makeout Sash Oh no that's during her dad's funeral Oh yeah you're right Well wait See here's the problem There's a ton of new metal

On this sound thing Yeah now is this scene You were talking about When they were on the rooftop It's raining And you can finally see her For the first time And for I guess it's really

fucking coming down because she could see like the color of her eyes practically. He sees like the pupil of her eyes. What the fuck is happening? There is something not natural going on in the environment right now. Dude, it's one possibly acid rain, but also it's her fake, bogus green contact lenses. They're so bright and uncomfortable.

A blind man can see him. Staring through the night, man, these fucking kryptonite contact lenses. I can see it. I got blinded by juggling grenades. Whoa! Wow, your eyes are a lot greener than the green of those grenades I was juggling! If my eyes were Ho Chi Men, that war would have been over. I'll tell you that, Scotty, or whatever your name is.

Now, fuck that woman. And let's end this movie. And now, I'm coming after you, Philipsiemo Hoffman. Right after I go dancing! does he like berate philips seymorhoffin in that movie there's like a trial yeah he's like a trial he's our trial for academics

and that kid's no good i'll tell you that yeah oh yeah he talks shit to phil's oh it wasn't chris o'donnell it was the fact king uh bullseye comes into town on the request of the kingpin because mr weas and the juice has decided that he's out the game yes and he brings

i don't know why he needs king bin or a bullseye to do this but he recruits bullseye all the way from Ireland to come kill this old man the plane ticket alone is just way too much money you know what I mean like well money is no object that's true and he basically there's a big dumb fight and like he throws daredevil's blunt stick his billy club yes at this dude and it impales him like he's

a vampire and I'm like how did that happen because bulls what it's because this bullsie character doesn't make any sense. No. Like you can throw anything and it'll be right on target. But it'll like do supernatural properties. Well, yeah, exactly. If it was, he needs to throw a sword at him or something sharp.

I mean, listen. Throwing knife. Is it that hard? Where are all those ninja stars that he's chucking at people all through this movie? Get one of those in there. You know, TV show had the wherewithal to have a ninja fight. That's what you want. Could use a ninja fight in this.

I think that show's got like five. ninja fights in it. I like a ninja fight. You know what? When I was over there on Asia, I don't know if it was a ninja fight, but it was something. I'll tell you

that, Scotty, or whatever your name is. Chris O'Donnell, sir. Uh-huh. Yeah, so he comes to town. He murders Mr. Weez and the Jews. Yeah. And it's kind of on Daredevil, but the only person who notices is Electra.

Yeah. This needs to be a thing where it's like The Daredevil of Hell's Kitchen Murders Billionaire Wee's in the Juice guy Yeah this should be like publicized It should have it should raise the stakes Because that's the thing

Redemption Exactly because at the end of the movie It's like sources say that the daredevil Was the one that turned in the kingpin But it's like Well who gives a shit Because the city needs to turn on Daredevil In the second act of the film

But nobody notices You would be cutting into Cooley screen time. Just to be fair. It's amazing because whenever they cut back to Coelio's storyline, which never leaves a courthouse, the movie isn't happening. It's clearly

like an alternate month or something. It's like last summer on Daredevil. Well, it's great because like, everyone's like, oh man, the director's cut, the director's cut, far superior. It's 40 minutes longer and Coalio's in it. It's like, well, actually

like that's so superfluous to the actual movie. Right. Yeah. It's just a separate thing wherein, I mean, Cullio is on trial for murder. It seems Wesley actually murdered the lady, which we find out in the last real. It's like a prostitute who was shot to death, which it's kind of funny. This is a bullshit thing that they only do once in the movie and never address it again is like, it's right when he's sitting down to take a bath slash go to sleep for the night. And he is like hearing this woman screaming. Oh yeah, yeah. And it's this bullshit thing where he like, it's not like a hallucination but like we see a woman on his bedroom floor it's clearly the woman that's screaming from far away right that never happens again in this movie he doesn't have these apparitions in his apartment but like if you want to play that up like play up the torture of this character yeah sure these people are haunting them all the fucking time you would think hey you would think well now that that that older man's been impaled by a walking stick. We are treated with a little night nurse of our own, Kevin Smith. Oh, boy.

Because Joey Pants, like, is like, I want you to show me whatever's weird. Well, Joey Pants is desperately trying to be in this movie. No, no, no, hey, movie, movie, movie. Hey, wait for me. Have we talked about his hat?

Oh, his Kangle hat? Yeah, that's something. He brought that from home. How is it not been a movie? I won this from Sam Jackson at a cod game. Exactly. There needs to be a movie, a Twins-esque scenario where the two of them are just wearing Kangol hats and baggy, like, track suits. I'd watch it. Isn't in Joey Pants' contract that he has to mention Hoboken in everything he's in?

Because he's like, I've got an uncle in Hoboken. Do you know I'm from Hoboken? Hey, Hoboken. I'll have a cheeseburger with a side of Hoboken. I mean, if Neo is truly the one, I don't have an uncle on Hoboken, so he can't die, right, Cypher? Wait, am I Cypher? Whatever. Hey, Ox.

Isn't that another one? Tank and dozer. Oh, Tank and Dozer. Switch. Switch. Switch is my favorite in the Matrix because she's the one that goes, not like this. Not like this. Are you telling me, Stanley Jenkins, before he visited Hoboken, killed his wife who had diabetes? That doesn't sound like Stanley Jenkins.

It's for me, by the way, Hoboken. I think it's Sammy Jankis. Sammy Jankis. Portrayed by our good friend, Stephen Tobelowski. Yes. Kevin Smith is doing his I can be in movies thing, which is fine.

That's one way to put what this is. Well, because it's the same character in Die Hard, right? Where it's like one scene, I'm going to come in and say the word I'm going to say the word, cool a bunch of times and then walk away. Yeah, I mean. And then Harry Knowles.

will be at your screening. Yeah, with bells on. This is also Kevin Smith before he got his like modern haircut. Yeah. So he's still rocking a like his 90s like part down the middle like kind of longish hair in this movie. Dude, I mean, it's the early 2000s.

Honestly, I think the 2000s are, it's the worst decade. It's like everything that's bad about the 90s heightened. It's you're not wrong. I mean, look at that movie we did years ago, boys and girls. like that's like that is a disgusting time capsule of the 2000s um uh what he called there the butterfly effect another 2000s nightmare yeah yeah you're not wrong there's a lot of them Kevin Smith's just wrapped up in this but the problem is like I mean this is like post j and silent Bob strike back I think yeah come on with this get that haircut is

am I remembering wrong is he wearing some kind of hip t-shirt or like a nerdy something t-shirt I mean he's wearing a lab smock well he's got he's got the smock on What with doing the autopsy, but it's like, I thought he's wearing a t-shirt underneath his open smock. Yeah, it's possible. I don't know. It's not, it's not advertising his comic book store. Is it that Daredevil t-shirt? It's not the Daredevil t-shirt I'm currently wearing.

I thought I was getting intercepted for a second. Well, so Kevin Smith says, like, hey, you told me to, like, call you if I found anything weird or anything cool. And he has, he pulls out the, you know, the nightstick from Mr. Wees in the juice's heart. and he like opens it up like he discovered how to open it and it's a blind guy's walking stick so you know joey pants puts it together like hey it's that blind lawyer i met that once i saw him at the hell's kitchen courthouse when i was drinking heineken man heineken all over this movie huh right front and center sharp focus in these frames drink that fucking piss will beer i like heikin fine yikes um if they're gonna sponsor the show i love them they're not sponsored Well, you never know. It's toilet water. Until they sponsor the show, it's toilet water. Speaking of toilet water.

We already talked about Kevin Smith's performance. Ooh. Ooh. Ah, deep cut. Yeah, that's burning. Yes. They spend like two minutes just talking about Fight Club in this movie. Oh, yeah.

You want to talk about early 2000s. It's just like, and Foggy Nelson hasn't seen it yet. What a jerk. Oh, my God. Oh, God. Oh, man. It's been fucking four years, Foggy. Is this the director's cut?

Because I'm getting like a minute of some guy explaining that he hasn't watched Fight Club. No, I do believe that's, that made the theatrical. Oh, I bad, because that's a nice little pop culture reference. Totally. That's probably why Kevin Smith signed on. Do you think this is a pop culture reference? No, he likes Daredevil. He wrote some Daredevil, actually, back in the day.

He wrote some good Darryl, though. I've read his Daredevil, and it's good. I agree. This cameo is useless. Sure. Get what's a cop doing in my command center. Oh, that's the Die Hard 4 cameo. Sorry.

Yeah. Shit. Ma, get over here. Ma. Those we hate movies assholes are ragging on my stuff. I liked Daredevil Die Hard 4. Hey, speaking of David Fincher movies, The dude playing Wesley is Leland Orser from 7.

Oh, yeah. Oh, so I did. That's a better... That's what I want Hell's Kitchen to be is 7. Yes. It might as well be, right? It should be. Well, Mark Stephen Johnson's directing style is very Fincher inspired, which is a nice way to put it.

It's Fincher want to be. You got a lot of those tracking shots that are CGI, you know what I mean? Like, you get a lot of that stuff. There's a lot of green going on in there. I heard that he's willing to do a sequel. Mark Stephen James? He's willing to do it. He's available, huh?

He's available. Didn't we do another Mark Stephen Johnson movie? Ah, we must. I can't remember. I remember his name coming up and saying something like, you know, how do we sound like, Daredevil, that's to stay tuned. Bob, get over here. It's just stay tuned.

Wait, what? It's great as no one's listening anymore. So let's just do one just for us, guys. So he, I mean, whatever, the end of this movie, which we could sort of, the last act is they do, um, uh, Alexa. Sorry, this right off the internet ticker, his other directing credit that we have done previous episode is Jack Frost. Oh, wow.

That's the guy I want doing my Daredevil movie. Hire this man. Yeah, no, he also directed, oh wait, uh, I guess he, what was he a writer? Yeah, he was also a writer. I guess he, um, he wrote the story. story for Jack Frost, excuse me. But his directing credits are Simon Birch

which is, you know, fine. That's a tear joker. Daredevil, Ghost Rider. Oh, that's right. And then some recent stuff no one's ever heard of, such as Win in Rome and Killing Season. Oh, when in Rome's that Kristen Bell movie.

Yep. Yeah. Hey, yep. So, um. Hey, Jack Shepard's in it. her husband oh right god that's those commercials suck

what where there's like a happy couple and just trying to make it in this world as billionaires I don't know what you're talking about but it sounds about right I've seen that commercial and there's a bunch of them I know it's like they're like being all cute around all their beautiful appliances

talking about how great the appliances are they are probably pretty great though they own them I think the company is capitalism wow but I'm not sure. I think it is. Yeah. I think it is.

Dollar sign industries. But, so, Electra thinks that Daredevil killed her dad for some reason. So they fight on a rooftop. I'm like,

I don't know. Like, she's not fucking him in this movie, but she has made out with him. Like, this mask again, like when you get close enough to it,

you're like, oh, that's Ben Affleck. Like, oh, man, I had my mouth on that mouth. Exactly. But she fights him,

she stabs him with her sigh and removes the mask and oops, wouldn't you know, it's Ben Affleck. He's like, that's what I've been trying to tell you. And then you stabbed me through the shoulder. And then but, you know, unfortunately

this little loving moment is broken up by our good friend Bullseye who comes back in. Bullseye, who looks like the edge this entire movie. Oh, he so does. He looks like the edge, the annoying YouTube guitarist, not the professional wrestler. Right. He looks like the

yeah, like the edge that walked off a stage recently. If you ever saw that video. Oh, yeah, him pulling what we call in the business a Kelsey Grammar. Hilarious. Posing as a U.N. ambassador. That! Oh, owie, owie, owie, owie.

Ruzz! I think there was an... Oh, dear Lord, in there. But I don't know what to do that. Tost salad and scrambled eggs. Yeah, look up the... video of Kelsey Grammer falling off the stage you'll do you'll laugh too much

um toss salad I toss grenades he's he so uh daredevil is down for the count because he got he got a little bruise on his arm so Electra fights him and again Electra is like

should be an assassin but at this movie she's just kind of like somebody that does kickboxing at the gym I guess with size yeah totally she's taking a couple like rocking box and boxing classes, kind of the thing. Some Tybo bullshit. And she gets murdered by Bullseye.

Yeah, it's her own sigh used against her. That's from the comics. It's a Frank Miller comic, if you want to know. Oh, he's in this too. You know, he had a little Frank Miller. Get just his little head falling down. Well, it's the way you want to see Frank Miller on screen, murdered and quiet.

Nice and quiet. When we were, like, we were all watching this separately, we were texting, like, oh, where was Frank Miller? And I found it. it was like he like bullseye steals his motorcycle or whatever yeah but what i didn't tell you guys is when i was googling for to see the like see an image right right where it is in the movie where frank miller is and i found it and it was part of like this like photo bucket album or whatever the rest of it was hardcore pornography close but i i scrolled through the rest of this album

and each one was a different scene from a movie where someone was either gouged in the head or something's like penetrating their eyes oh man And someone was jerking off to that. Which is, that's creepy. That's Hell's Kitchen. Well, it was fucked up because, like, you had said, like, oh, he's credited his man with pen and head or whatever it was. So when it happens, like, he just drops dead into the frame. I thought it was Joe LaTrulyo.

It looked like comedic actor, Joe LaTrulyo. You're right. He did look like that. That's you, Frank Miller on Brooklyn Nine, Nine. Oh, yeah, they'd have a case against him. so yeah so she's murdered and then like daredevil is trying to get up or whatever then the cops come

that's when we get the framing device he's back in church and there's this Irish priest so on and so forth because he has to be an Irish priest Bullseye fights him in this church and they fight on top of the world's largest organ I think

this organ was growing as the fight scene went on like this the pipes on this thing are getting bigger and bigger I don't know where I mean this is more of like the burtening Yeah

But like is that from the comics Is there a living organ As a character And not like a biological organ The piano man Yeah the piano man Yeah That's Billy Joel

There was a custom comic With Billy Joel To give out at his At his concerts It's the piano man If I saw that in a comic I'd say Man what are you doing here

Bravo But yeah This thing's enormous And this is when, like, Bullseye accidentally, like, kicks the organ. And then, like, Daredevil's like, ow, my ears. Ow, my freaking ears. Yes, exactly. But then he's saved by the Phantom of the Opera.

Oh, I'm here to save you, Daredevil. Or if I'm about to fight in a church, I've got earplugs in my little Daredevil belt than putting them on. Do you think earplugs would do anything for Daredevil? Or maybe they would just make them completely actually blind, probably. Oh, shit. That turns it right on. or to make him normal like normal hearing

yeah that's you're halfway there that's true I don't know well it wouldn't make him act like an asshole which is grab your ears in the middle of a fight letting someone know your one and only weakness did he grab his real ears or his little pointy ears on his hat his little

my little pointy ears to be fair it is a hat this movie because it's not actually connected to anything else so it's just a little it's a daredevil hat dude also speaking of like this movie wanting to be Batman there's definitely a shot where he's going after some hoodlam

for some reason or another this dude oh it's when he goes he leaves that rain date yeah yeah and he like because he hears trouble of foot and he runs to the sound and this mugger is like fucking with somebody and the way they do it it's like a shot looking down

at this alleyway and daredevil totally stands up in total shadow and he's got the ears and I'm like dude you are just cribbing Batman You can't do it. You can't do it. You just can't do it.

You also can't fight in a fucking church at the end of your movie. God damn it, Daredevil. Yeah, there you go. Well, I mean, like, Daredevil is more of a Catholic superhero. That's one of his things. That's one of his big deals. Oh, really? Yeah, he is.

Okay. Oh, dude, the Catholicism of this movie is off the chain, though, because the end of this fight scene is, God damn Colin Farrell gets shot by a sniper through the hands, and he totally does the stigmata, like, holding his hands up, like, how am I freaking hands. They got me hands. And he's just like yelling for Marcy from the devil of hell's kitchen. And then who kicks down the door, but the boondock saints. I actually think Colin Farrow, this bullseye would fit so in with the

saints. Oh, yes. He'd make out with those saints left and right. This is from the saint averse. I think they prefer to call it the Duffyverse. Just in case he makes any other movies that have nothing to do with those annoying characters. Impossible! Yeah, Blockbuster went out of business. Because they would Blockbuster finance the sequel, right? Boondocks 2?

Oh, did they really? It was partially, I think. Were they trying to do like a Netflix originals thing? Yipe. Like a fucking rental originals. Oh, yikes. But would it be worse or better if... Because even at one point, Bulls, I want a fucking costume.

Or in the movies, I want a bloody costume. If he's just in a costume, it would look so much better. Here's my thing. I mean, I think you're right. Yes. But the question is, why isn't Wilson Fiske fucking shout out for that costume? How much for that cost? He's like, I don't give a shit about anything.

I just want you to give me a fucking costume. Yeah. And Michael Clark Duncan, like, laughs at him, I guess, because he doesn't get that costume. Bullseye in the comics has a costume Or maybe they're making a... Oh, he left. But Bullseye, it's... Oh, he's ready.

Oh, shit. Maybe there's that Taylor character from the TV show. Yeah. Making Wilson Fisk's knife-proof suits or whatever's going on there. That's what I'm going to need after this episode. Come, get over here.

Stab that man. Sadeg's getting it. But, I mean, so like, Bullseye gets, like, paralyzed or something. He goes finally to fight Wilson Fisk. And this is the way, by the way, sorry to interrupt you. But Daredevil throws Bullseye through a fucking window. Joey Pants's window because he's like, oh, I'm in this movie. No, no, no. I just came back from Hoboken. He throws him through the church's stained

glass window onto Joey Pants's windshield. Hey, I just got you from Hoboken. What did I miss? Oh, crap. Yeah, story just fell right in my laugh. Right my little little laugh. he does kind of look like a ventriloquist dummy in this movie that hat is doing him no favors like just be a bald guy man just be a bald guy well you can't have three fucking bald guys in this movie we'll be able to tell people apart

just just Joey pants being mistaken for Colin Farrell or Michael Clark Duncan would be the funniest thing of the world to me so we got to have the big face off with Kingpin now

which is I mean again like this is Michael Clark Duncan's third scene in the movie and like and every scene he has he's like Wesley do this okay buy movie and it's like well let's stick with him for a minute even so I mean there's to prove your point exactly there is a scene

in this movie where they go to like a big fancy schmancy party and whatnot a gala and and fucking Favro's trying to talk to Wilson Fist and instead he winds up talking to Wesley at the bar and one of the most useless cutaways of this entire movie

where Leland Orser's like Why don't you just go and fuck yourself? Okay, lawyer? Bubba, blah, blah, blah. Michael, Clark Duncan just takes a backseat to Leland Orser of all people for most of this movie. That never happened before or since.

And Michael Clark Duncan takes off his jacket. He is jacked in this movie. Oh, man, is he ever? This is a intimidating shit. You don't want to fuck with Michael Clark Duncan ever? I mean, now he's gone, but like... You never wanted to when he was being a beautiful person on this.

earth but like he is enormous in this movie and it's amazing because you always want to give a little chuckle to someone with suspenders yeah not this guy nope oh man you look at those suspenders you're like those are some ass kicking suspenders right there and i think what's his face uh to do the show thing um denofrio does a really great job with denofrio is excellent on the show he's got a lot more to do but like he's not as like the fight scenes are never entirely believable with him Well, it's kind of like when, like, on law and order, criminal intent, like, whenever his character had to go, like, take someone down in an arrest mode, you're like, yeah, okay, like, I get it. Like, he's the cop and that's the bad guys. So that's how the scene is supposed to go, but I don't know.

He's way more believable sitting on a toilet and then shooting an unarmed man with a rifle. And then blowing his brains out. But Duncan, like this fight, I mean this fight, which is terrible. I don't think it's terrible. It doesn't last long enough is the problem. But like, there's some good fighting going on. I just don't need. You believe you could beat the shit out of bad athletic, that's for sure.

Well, absolutely. But like, I just, what I don't like about this fight is that it ends with like a Nickelodeon studios gag because he like. He gets sucked. Yeah, a bunch of slime falls on him. No, like he slides under his legs. like the sprinkler system's going off so thank God it's raining so he can see during this fight

Why does Daredewell move to Seattle by the way Speaking of Fraser Crane Well that's what you want If it's like your David Fincher movie right If it's seven it's just raining constantly In Hell's Kitchen Yeah now we're talking I can see

The future is so bright I gotta wear a shade Seattle's got real superheroes right Phoenix Jones Yes Isn't that dude like didn't he get arrested or something I don't know. I would like to see him thrown through his sting last window under a car. But, I mean, he comically slides under his legs, like some Pete and Pete action scene or something.

I think Judd Nelson does that in the breakfast club. It's the same kind of slide. But then Ben Affleck kicks his knees back in the other direction, and it's fucking horrifying. Ooh, that just makes you flinch. and basically finds out as also like for some reason like just he removes the mask and he's like oh it's Matt Murdoch who I met once in this movie oh also I killed your dad because I remember when I kill Boxer it's like no no way would he remember he killed Matt Murdoch's fucking dad dude he just rando kills those two bodyguards for the fun of it at the beginning of this movie he's not remembering some loser boxer 35 years ago that he murdered. Also, you know what?

When the mafia tells you to take a dive, don't do anybody any favors and take a fucking dive. Yeah, you know what? I don't care how hard your little pipsqueak kids cheering for you in the audience. Take that dive.

Exactly. Now, when the mafia says take a dive, you take a dive. And people don't know, this is a New York City show. And the mafia told us to take a dive on this episode. I don't want to spill the beans

too much about how the sausage is made. Well, no, yeah. What the, what the, here's, here's my philosophy. Maybe I'm wrong. When what the, what the mafia says goes. And you know what? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Why, why, who am I to say no to the mafia? No, especially if you're a 42 year old washed up boxer. Exactly. Get the money any way you can. The show does it a little better where he like, he kind of does a Bruce Willis and Pulp Fiction where he bets on himself knowing he's going to die. Yeah.

And like, so he sets up Matt for life or whatever. which is fine. There's, you know, story there. Yeah, sure. Actions having consequences and whatnot. Sure. You know, action, reaction, chronology, all that great stuff. So did Culeo do it or what? No, Culeo gets off. He gets off and he starts hugging everyone. It's a touching moment. It's a scene that just we cut to last summer on Daredevil.

It's last season on Daredevil. It's such an extraneous scene. And also, like, it just, it doesn't even look the same. It's brighter. You know, that's the problem with this movie. Like, the fucking playground scene is like this, some other scenes. There's way too much brightness. There's way too much sunlight in this daredevil movie. Well, they filmed it in L.A., which, you know, that's what you're going to get.

You're going to get a lot of sunlight. You get season six onward of the X-Files syndrome. And, you know, New York City, you got all these big buildings blocking some light. You know, in Los Angeles, for instance, nothing is over three feet tall. All the buildings are tiny little. That's why I move. out here. I'm like,

I'm like Gulliver out here. I got my dollhouse and everything's fine. Now they're trying to tie me to the beach. Man, Gulliver's travel starring Joe Pantleiano

is an idea that's probably more successful than Jack Black. Well, let's let's reverse it and he goes to a land of nothing but big people. Oh man, that's some Twilight Zone

shit for you. And all these big people are tying them down. Did anyone see that Jack Black movie? No. That's totally fine. The end of this movie has about four end of the movie scenes. Yeah. I don't know if the director's cut

or what. But it is nice to see that after Frodo and Sam split, Sam gets a nice stable home life. Yeah. Sure. Because he was heterosexual all along. That's right. We got to see Kingpin in jail

They're implying that Samwise Camji was kidding Get over here Question We see They're like right down the hall In like a jail medical room Is Bullseye who's in

A hilarious body cast Come on It's fit for a Looney Tune This is so fucking dumb And he bullsize a fly with a siren. And it's kind of a bullshit, like, end of psycho reference where it's like the flies

on his hand. He's like, I won't even harm a fly. Look, I'll just let it sit there. They'll never suspect me. Like, that whole thing. Like, they're doing it, and he's like, because through this whole movie, he's like grunting and farting and burping the whole time. And he's just looking at this fly like, mm-h-ch-hmm. And then, yeah,

he picks up a hypodermic needle and bullseys this fly. Wow, that's great. Is he good? So he's It's going to be in Daredevil 2. Yep. And Joey Pants is writing, he's writing the story of Matt Merdoch is Daredevil. Sorry, Daredevil, I got a job to do. But then he gets his second heart.

Yeah, I'll delete that. You know what? I'll delete that. But you know, if... Dad Devil's actually from Hoboken is what I meant to say. Yeah. Sorry. My cousin.

I'm gonna get some more fucking phone books over here I'm trying to type I gotta sit out on something he does a bullshit thing where he just holds down the delete key and he's like taking forever to delete a paragraph and I'm like just end to this movie

movie mistake there the font changes like when he's writing it's like a nice book Antiqua but then when like you see it reflected in his glasses it's an aerial oh man what a bungle I know man you want that book Antiqua at all time That's a publisher's eye, you got.

That's right. And then so he goes outside to, like, have a cigarette and there's Daredevil. He's like, go get him, Matt. Why the fuck does his asshole have the last line of the movie? I think Ben Affleck, like, in narration is like, I'm Daredevil or whatever. I'm a guardian devil. Yeah, or whatever horse hockey. I will protect Clinton as much as possible.

You better not get above 50 First Street, though. Let's just say a couple blocks of nine. The rest, you better call Spider-Man or them four weirdos downtown. You want to rape and murder people? You do that either in Chelsea or Harlem. Yeah, that's free game. I mean, the X-Men are in Westchester, so that's fine. Yeah, they're not taking the train in for this.

So if you want to do some crimes, I don't know, maybe avoid Westchester, Hell's Kitchen, part of Queens where Spider-Men live I don't think anyone's protecting the East Side Not for nothing That's it's Escape from New York

All over the East Side Is it the Gargoyles maybe I think so maybe Don't worry We have it covered Over here on the East side It's where all the old money is They built us gargoyles

It's true What was the deal with them Were they statues that came to life Or are they aliens Prettaining to be statues There statues that came to life I see. Good for that. And where were they parked?

I don't remember. St. Patrick's Chrysler Building. I think wherever they wanted, man. Yeah, they didn't have to like return to a certain point by like midnight or something. Well, by like son up, right? When the first person comes to work. Actually, the last spoken word of this movie is, go get it, Matt.

Aside from the, what do you call it, the voiceover is Ben Affleck goes up to the rooftop where he kissed Electra and he finds her necklace. He grabs it, and it's the worst delivery he gives in this movie, which is saying something. He goes, Braille. And it's like, ooh, who are you talking to? Yeah, it's Braille, Matt. That's what blind people used to read, you fucking idiot.

I can see if I'm down here, you stupid fuck. The think I almost outed you. So he reprises his role, apparently, in Electro? Yeah. Is this a, wait, is that a prequel? Because that, she's dead meat, right? It's a sequel. She's brought back to life by the, what's the group?

And I think, and Terrence Stamp is in it a stick. Oof. Yikes, I never saw it. I saw it in theaters. I don't remember anything about it other than there's definitely people turning into animals and back and forth in that movie. Oh, it's like Twilight. One of your classic, hey, let's make an anime as a live action movie and nobody likes it. Oh, is Elektra an anime?

No, but like the tropes they were using like people turn into animals and like all. Yeah, there's a lot of you'd call it Asian mysticism in that movie also. And it's just, that movie's just that movie is. a big fucking thud, too. If you can believe it, it's way worse than this movie. It's Joey Pants in it. I'm right about you now, Elektra.

All right. So, that's the end of the movie. Is anyone recommending Daredevil theatrical or otherwise? I mean, I would, if you have to watch it again, like, oh, was that good? Go for the theatrical cut. Oh, my God. Save yourself the 30 Culeoless minutes.

And I mean, like, yeah, there's more violence than the wood director's cut short. It's not like people are getting their heads cut off. It's not worth it. Not good violence. I would say never see this movie. If possible, build a time machine and stop yourself from seeing it the first time. I just, I didn't like it when it came out.

And I watched it again now. Did you see it in the theaters? No, I thought, I think I saw it at home video. Oh, yeah. It's way worse than I remembered. Like, I was just like, oh, whatever, that's forgettable. This is, like, condemnable. It's unforgettable.

It's way worse than I remembered. I won't forget how bad this movie is now And here's the thing Because we've been saying it this whole time Just go watch the show Yes The show is awesome The show is great

It's gonna have the Punisher next season John Bernthal I'm super excited about that That's a good Punisher casting right there And I think they have a lecture too Oh yeah yeah She's in there I don't know who they have cast as her

I haven't heard it I've been trying to like Yeah Keep ignorant about it Ditto yeah I haven't watched any trailers Or anything like that Deadpool comes out on Friday

I'm interested because it's R-rated. They've never done a really, like an R-rated superhero, like big-name kind of movie. I mean, closest we got was Blade. Yeah. And I think even that last blade was PG-13.

Oh, really? Yeah, and they softened it. Well, Steve, you're on text duty. Text me when it's... If it's good. Yeah, because you know I'm seeing it, you're right. Text me if it's bad. I'll text you when I see it.

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