We Hate Movies - S6 Ep241: Episode 241 - Nightmare Beach

Episode Date: March 15, 2016

On this episode, the gang continues Listener Request Month with the too-little-too-late 80s slasher, Nightmare Beach! Why would director Umberto Lenzi try to deny he directed this classic gem? Was this actor the absolute best thespian to audition for "Skip"? And why did they pick such a lame motorcycle for the killer to ride? PLUS: John Saxon and Joe Don Baker get catty about not going to the Academy Awards. Nightmare Beach stars Nicolas De Toth, Sarah Buxton, Rawley Valverde, Lance LeGault, Michael Parks, and the legendary John Saxon; directed by Umberto Lenzi (as Harry Kirkpatrick).Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Now, speaking to the beach, we're talking about one of my all-time faves that I didn't know was an all-time fave until I figured out what this movie was. We'll get into it on the episode. This is Nightmare Beach. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Seda. Eric Siska. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies on the Sideshow Network.

Thank you for tuning in to our fine little podcast here, our homegrown podcast, as it were. This week, it's a mom and pop operation. It is. It is, it is indeed a mom and pop operation. Yeah, we got mom and pops stock in the back room right now. All those VHS tapes. Oh, I don't know, Mother. I think these are going out of style. All right, well, we're done podcasting.

Lock them in the closet. Are you doing boys doing pornography this week? Nightmare Beach. This episode is requested by Isaac from California. He had this to say. Hey, guys. This is Isaac calling from Surf's up, California. I just want to request

Welcome to Spring Break, aka Nightmare Beach. It has stars both John Saxon and Michael Parks, so it's a good thing there. The killer in this film was an all black leather biker suit. I think

you guys would really dig it. So hopefully you check out Nightmare Beach, aka Welcome to Spring Break. You guys are the best. Thanks. This week is indeed Nightmare Beach from 1989, directed by Harry Kirkpatrick, a.k.a. actually quite famous Italian horror

director, Umberto Lensie, the Artur. Right. Behind a couple of films I've watched recently, including Cannibal Farrox, which is unwatchable. Oh, really? But the soundtrack, quite fantastic. What's that second word, fair ox? Fair ox, yeah. Is that what Paul Bunyan had?

No, I believe you. Oh, babe, the blue ox there. the blue cannibal ferrocks there. And also a cool kind of zombie-ish movie called Nightmare City. This is Nightmare Beach continuing his round of nightmares. Nightmare town.

Nightmare apartment. Nightmare garbage dump. Nightmare bathroom. Welcome to my world. Oh boy. This is, I think, closest to nightmare garbage dump, actually. This is a movie that confirms my

opinion that, not opinion, but But my feeling that these like MTV-esque spring break town situations have zero appeal to me. Well, the thing is, if you go to them, you probably are going to die. Or someone's dying. Whenever you saw the MTV Beach House, there was a dead girl in the pool. You're like someone's floating the wrong way in that beach house pool. Yeah, like, you know, Bill Bellamy died on one of those, right? He's been dead for years, which is unfortunate.

Jesse Camp, former VJ, now Corpse. Yeah, he died. Dave Holmes, he was murdered. Kurt Loder was found dead. Oh, no, wait, he's still alive. He just looked quite dead. They just prop him up in a seat. Kurt Loder, I feel like his secret nickname around the MTV offices was The Mummy.

Like, oh, shit, here comes the mummy. Everybody butting up. Oh, dude, now they got the Teen Wolf going on. MTV's got the Teen Wolf on. How about MTV's The Mummy starring Kurt Lodagh? You can get some sexy looking teens to go and fight them and like try to get them back in the crypt. I feel like every time Kurt Loder opens his mouth on MTV is like, come on. We just look.

It's not that channel anymore. Kurt, just leave. And he's like, fire me. Go ahead and fire me. I think he finally recently stepped down as the film critic there. That's what he's been doing for like 15 years. They don't have any new. Do they have news anymore?

Oh, I've got no clue. What's Snookie reading the headlines these days? Are they even rocking the vote? is what I wanted to know. Well, they had the last election was voter die with P. Diddy, which I think was tied in to rock the vote, quite unfortunately. I think I saw John Norris asking for change on the way here. I should have asked him how things were going at MTV.

I watched a, there's this documentary that came out about REM's relationship with MTV and how like REM sort of came up like while MTV was coming up, so they both like helped each other. It was a pretty cool little movie. They were the propaganda wing. Yeah, pretty much. But, man, talk about like MTV flashback, dude, to all of those people looking in their prime. Yeah, video killed the radio star.

So, Nightmare Beach, huh? Yeah, by the way, Nightmare Beach. This movie also is weird because it came out in 1989. It looks like and should have come out in about 1984. Yes. Yeah, we're just kind of missing the era that this movie wished it lived in. It's specifically from the soundtrack. Yeah.

The soundtrack, there's, like, Ronnie James D.O. all over it. Like, I think he was a music consultant, actually. No, was he really? Yeah. This is gorgeous, man. The soundscape and the music, I was kind of feeling it. Well, because it's all, like, fake music. It's like fake Iron Maiden, fake, like, Metallica.

The main song is, like, fake Tiffany or something. Her name is Kirsten, by the way. Yeah, it sure is. I mean, this is like Spring Break Fart Rock. Yeah, is what we have going on here. It was like, don't take my heart. I think it was the song. Sounds good to me.

I was hoping the killer would rip someone's heart out with that, Larry. Oh, yeah, that would have been cool. The killer in this movie kind of strays from his M.O. a few times, which is frustrating. So what's this movie about? This movie is about, well, it's spring break. Well, it's spring break. I was going to say, there may or may not be a ghost who's murdering people. Or a zombie?

It's like a fake paranormal element going on in this movie. It's a Scooby-Doo situation, actually. It's a very violent. boob-filled Scooby-Doo is what this movie is. So basically, there's a spring break town. Sorry, booby-doo. I had to get that in. Bravo.

Let me interrupt you. Let's derail this for two minutes so I can say booby-doo. That's an interruption I'll gladly take. Yeah, no, it's a shitty town in shitty Florida. I'm not all a Florida shitty. Well, most of it's shitty. Well, most of America's shitty. Listen, this movie was filmed in North Miami.

in fucking Fort Lauderdale, okay? Yeah. I was getting herpes just watching this movie. I mean, that's the thing about, I was saying about spring break is like, I'm just watching this and I'm like,

this is disgusting, that pool's gross, I don't want to drink at that bar, I don't even want to know what the restaurant bathroom is over there. Well, that's the thing, Michael Parks, who plays the doctor in this movie, he's doing all these autopsies.

Like, you know, the first thing he does is seize and disregards the staff infection. He's like, well, that's just part and parcel of what's going on here. That couldn't have done it. everybody's got one of these so there is a there's a motorcycle be helmeted uh killer going around

electrocuting people with his super motorcycle yeah uh and then you know we've got really needs to be explained at the end of the movie it is oh sure listen i want schematics for how uh this thing is wired because what are we even talking about but funny enough actually uh to sort of like dovetail from last week into this week we start this movie back on death row we we we We do. Oh, right, yeah. This dude, he's like a biker who's been accused of murdering this woman. He's just getting the chair, and it's this whole thing.

It's what a letter from death row did not have, which I always find bizarre, is the execution theater. I love it, man. I'm, like, listen. I'll take one for the front row of death row. Yeah, no, that's, listen, three percent of me wishes I could be in a theater like that. The thing is, everybody who gets executed in a theater will undoubtedly say, I'm coming back. Yes. You want to just throw that out there?

Maybe it'll stick. You know what I mean? You never know. Listen, you get killed. You go to the other side. Maybe there's an option come back and torture people. Honestly, that's the only time Satan is watching. You die is when you're in a theater and it's like this weird thing where like people are like,

oh, yeah, this is good. Like, okay. I mean, maybe you're just as bad. as he is now, I don't know. That's when Satan's watching. Oh, yeah. I feel like the public relations person that brings everybody in is like,

you know, she'll tell you the do's and don'ts. Like, you're not allowed to yell anything. When to cheer, when they need the applause. No spitting. If it gets too intense, you go, you know, the exits are here, there, and there. And by the way, he will undoubtedly say that he's coming back, but magic doesn't exist, everybody.

And I want everybody to calm down, because if you look under your seat right now, everybody's going to get a barf bag. And when our convict tonight, Edward Diablo, comes out. I'm going to wave this newspaper up in the air, and I need you guys to cheer really loud. We want the big energy getting right up.

I mean, this is a show, people. Come on, come on. I love that this dude's name is Diablo, by the way. But first, your warm-up execution, Lucifer T. Powers, get out of here. Wow. Oh, they're grilling the priest first for the opening act. Talk about last rights.

So this dude gets killed. He makes the threat of like, I'm coming back for you. Well, the first line in the movie, like, it's all this like tense, like, you know, the atmosphere of like about to watch. No audio, by the way. I thought my DVD was broken. Ditto, yeah. And I was like, I kept turning it off. And it's just quiet.

You know, you see everybody. You don't see the warm up lady. And then you see the guy get strapped in. And to break the ice, he yells out, I didn't kill your sister, bitch. Maybe leave off the last word. Yeah, sure. More believable?

Or more. You know, maybe you want to try and get empathy at the end there. Like, I'm innocent. You're killing an innocent man. When you yell that word out, I was like, oh, fuck it. Well, no, but here's the thing, though, because the warden gets the, you know, he picks up the phone and he's like, uh, any chance we're commuting this sentence?

postponing? What's that? Nope. Why don't I even bother calling? Okay. And he hangs up and he's like, well, sorry Diablo. We're going through with this. Like at that point, there's no amount of empathy that's going to help you for anything. I'm definitely telling people I'm coming for him

from beyond the grave. Oh, for sure. I mean, all bets are off at that point, dude. And like Eric pointed out, the eyes of Satan are upon us. And you know, and now Satan could do any number of things. He can make you almost a good guy, right? Yes. Is that what Johnny Blaze is? something. Johnny Blaze, the crow.

Oh, yeah. There's so many of them. Oh, you know what the move is? Don't even say I'm coming back. All you have to do to freak everybody out is like, time Oh, yeah. He's on my side. Yes, it feels. And then you get electrocuted like, oh, fuck, that guy was a demon, and it's going to go inside. One of these days, the movie Fallen, right?

Everybody? Well, yeah, of course. The Rosenberg said that when they were walked to the chair. And that's where the lyric came from. It was Ethel's idea. Julian didn't want to do it, but she forced him into it. Yeah, it's sort of just like the spying or the

alleged. I think they were innocent. Did they try to save their own hides and blame one another? I don't know. I've never read the testimonial. I think it's all doctored. It's all phony baloney. So, um... Yes, it is. Sorry.

John Goodman loves that scene. Actually, though... Maybe eats it up. He really does. That's a great... That's a totally great thing to do if you're about to be executed and you've got this like audience like

just ruin a pop song for somebody you know whatever it comes on the radio maybe you're a firework and that and for that moment on Katie Perry's firework is ruined for everyone you know what I'm doing I'm doubling down I'm singing

every Beatle song I know just to fucking ruin the catalog man I'm I'm doing Miley Cyrus it's a party in the USA Yeah, that's a little more chilling. I'll edge you on being chilling in that regard. It's also a song that will never play on the radio again, probably. Yeah, probably.

Less of a half-life as the Beatles. Muppet babies, you make our dreams come true. I'm changing mine. Down in Fraggle Rock. It's like, wow, that guy was really demented. Save your worries for another day. down in Frank Rock. Zapp.

So this dude's dead, or is he? And then, like, you know, the one girl that he's calling a bitch and yelling at in the theater is the sister, who later comes on to be, like, one of the characters in the movie. So then we meet Skip and Ronnie. Skip is our main character. They're both football players from, you know, something, something university. You couldn't tell from his performance, I'll tell you that much. The camera does not love this guy. Which one?

Either. Right. Well, Ronnie, I thought, was the dude who plays the bad boy in Nightmare and Elm Street. Oh. The guy who Freddie makes it look like he hung himself in the jail cell. Yeah. Oh, is that true? It's not, though.

Okay. It's a different guy. He looks like if you mixed equal parts, Mario Lopez, Scott Wolf, Scott Beio. Yeah, I see this coming together. That's what you got. A little bit of scar tissue as well. So they're down at this, you know, whatever the name of this town is. I can't remember.

Is it? You got it? I saw it on John Saxton's police car. At the end of the movie, right? This is a big surprise. Manatee Beach, which by the way, best name for a beach town. It's so awesome. My wife caught it too.

She was like, you have fun watching your Manatee Beach movie? I was like, what are you talking about, Manatee Beach? Because she's from Florida. And I was like, oh, is that a real town? And she was like, no, it's all over all the police stuff. It makes sense, though, because, like, if you want to pack your town with hard and sexy bodies, call it Manatee Beach, because no fat person worth their salt. I'm not going to Manatee Beach because, look at the Manatee Beach.

Hey, Sadec, you must be right at home, huh? Exactly. Hey, look at the Manatee over there. I bet a sailor from the turn of the century would want to have sex. with it you guys hear about that that's like the legend of the mermaids everyone was like oh you all the mermaids they're so beautiful they exist

and apparently a theory is all these sailors were getting all jazzed up over manatees because weight was beautiful back then oh okay wait but they knew they were manatees right there's just a bunch of gray ladies out there I don't know what they knew man I think they were all

scurvyed out and drunk. Well, that could be. Well, that's what I'm saying. So they maybe thought it was a lady. Yeah. But it was a manatee. Either way, you can get in there. Sure.

So Skip and Ronnie, they pull into Manatee Beach. They come just from blowing the orange bowl, is the idea? Well, Skip blew the orange bowl. Ronnie just keeps reminding him about it every chance. Because I guess he's the wide receiver and he's the quarterback. Skips the quarterback, who threw five interceptions.

Yikes. Yeah, that's a. bad Orange Bowl performance. And it's like, you know, they check into this shitty hotel. And like, it's, you know, it's your classic. Ronnie's a dirtbag, pussy hound kind of a thing. Yeah.

Well, he's part of the Beaver Patrol. Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. He's the only fucking member of the Beaver Patrol. Really? That's not real? I thought they took down Bin Laden. No, you're thinking of Sealed Team 6. Oh, okay.

Often confused with the Beaver Patrol. I guess it wouldn't make sense for the Beaver Patrol to leave U.S. waters that much. They don't have jurisdiction in Pakistan. Here's the thing, though. Neither did Zilternich. Hamana, homina. Take that American history. Now, the thing that's awkward about Ronnie is that he, Ronnie's like your asshole friend that you don't like hanging out with.

Yeah. And like the whole time, he's like screaming shit like Beaver Patrol. And this and that. And poor Skip is just like, okay, Ronnie. Don't fucking kill me. Two people do not a Beaver Patrol make. That's just, you know what? And I'm 32 years old, so I know that I'll never be part of a Beaver Patrol.

Right. Oh, come on. Don't sell yourself short. You got plenty to live for. Well, I'm over the age of 30. I'm engaged and I'm not an enormous asshole. So chances are I'll never make, I'll never make my stripes in the Beaver Patrol. but you need to roll four or five deep.

You can't just be two dudes calling yourself a patrol. It doesn't have anything to do with beavers. It's any kind of patrol can't be two guys because that's the saddest shit I've ever seen. Especially when one isn't even into it. So now you're just one man is definitely not a patrol of any kind. So you've got to be a super credible threat. Yes, exactly. It's like in a Western when they round up a posse.

Yeah. You got to get like six or seven dudes that will like, do anything. Yeah, they have to be into it. Yeah. And Skip is not into it. Skip would have rather just skip spring break all together. I don't even know why he's here. I have no idea. They go out to a bar

and he's like, oh, a beer and I'll just have a sip. A beer, but the sun isn't down yet. I think Skip, I mean, look, he's not getting the deposit back on this shitty hotel. Oh, yeah, he was like, yeah, man, we're going to go to, we're going to go to

Miami after I win the orange. Bowl, it's going to be great, it'll be ladies and my tithes, and then he fucking blows it. Oh, so that's why he's all bummed down. Yeah, I think that's what it is. But he's also, like, more mature and not a jerk, I guess. Well, because this actor's, like, 34.

Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of, like, 50-year-old party dudes in this movie. There's a lot of running gags. I mean, because, like, basically, like, it's Skip and Ronnie. There's not a really good thread here, because it's not a very good movie.

So, like, Skip and Ronnie, or Skip is your main character. and like he's woven throughout but there's a lot of like spring break archetypes thrown around my favorite being the the pick pocket who never gets his due no the pick pocket should have been murdered and he does not there's a guy that's going around just stealing

like wallets from out of ladies purses and dudes pants and that is that guy is like a 50 year old dressed like Bart Simpson yeah he's been doing this a long time he's got his like skateboard and his like bleach blonde hair and he just looks like

oh man like it looks like you got like dragged on the highway for a little bit this face has got miles on it speaking of which coming up a little later in the movie somebody gets dragged on the highway a little bit maybe that's why I was thinking about it so you know we settle in with these two

mimboes and then we cut to like random hitchhiker and then so this is our introduction to what this movie is and this is the scene that I've held in my brain for I don't know

20, 23 years I didn't know what this movie was I've said this before and I'll just gloss over it now but I saw this movie on USA Up All Night hosted by Gilbert back in the day like in a hotel room and me and my little sister we were on vacation and the rest of our family

was like down at the pool and we're just like hanging out watching movies or watching TV or whatnot and this movie comes on and it's like so this motorcycle guy's electrocuting people And that's the only memory I had for what this movie was until seriously, like, three years ago, a friend of ours in Chicago mentioned the movie. And I was like, is it this? And she was like, yeah, it's that movie.

And I was like, fucking lifetime mystery finally solved. Because, yeah, those hotel movies you get, because A, it's, you know, especially then, it's pre, you hit info and you know what movie you're watching. This was just, we knew who Gilbert was. And we were like, oh, he's hosting a thing. This was also how I discovered up all night. Yeah. And I was like, oh, Gilbert Godfrey's doing it. Oh, he hosts a horror movie thing. Okay. And we watched like 20 minutes of this. And did you ever think you'd be able to ask him about up all night? Because new listeners may not know, but we had a previous conversation with Gilbert Godfrey. Yeah, I didn't. And actually, when we booked the Gilbert interview, I was like, I got to ask him about up all night. It kind of changed my life. So anyway, this hitchhiker trying to get to Manatee beach, I guess. It's the hot spot. Why go to Daytona when you can go to Manatee? And so up comes this dude on a motorcycle.

He's dressed all in black. He's kind of dressed like the wraith a little bit. A little lot of bit like the wraith, actually. Is this pre or post-raith? He's definitely post-raith. Because this is 89. I'm guessing off the top of my head, and this is often wrong. If you haven't listened to the show, you might notice I get years wrong constantly.

But I'm guessing 86 for the wraith. Let me look it up. So while Eric does a little internet research, so up pulls this, you know, Motorcycle enthusiasts, this is 89. Never get on a, never, I mean, 86, yeah, we're post-raith. Hitchhiking is dangerous no matter what, but especially when the person you're hitchhiking from

is eerily silent the whole time. And you can't see their face. If you get on, if you're like, hey man, are you going to Manatee Beach? And then like you're just going to nod to come on the motorcycle. I'll get the next one. You know what I mean?

Like, you've got to say something. So he kind of just picks her up. he starts driving very fast she's screaming to get off he goes to like a dead end part of this highway which I guess whatever and just like something on this motorcycle electrocutes

he's got these big red buttons she's on the back it's like it's a second seat it's not like uh you know what I mean like it's the hot seat it's the hot seat and like yeah it just this this is like kind of his modus operandi that he tries to do a couple times in the movie sometimes it works

sometimes it doesn't it's a very complicated way to kill somebody sure but the thing you're thinking is well this motorcyclist he's got an electric chair on his motorcycle much like the biker dude was electrocuted diablo and so that's the thing so then you're you're supposed to start thinking like oh shit man the ghost of diablo he may have risen from the grave and he's he's here to i guess mess with spring break for some reason. Biker Vohes. Yeah. No, exactly. Jason with a sun tan. I'm working on my turn. Now I just can't. Now I'm just picturing him with his shirt off, which is making me picture of our conversation about who we'd have sex with, Jason and Freddie. So now I'm on spring break right now.

He's all flustered. We also, early on in the film, are introduced to, of course, screen legend, B-movie legend, John Saxon. God bless him. he's you know he's five years away from nightmare in elm street at this point uh and he's in this movie he's playing a cop again uh and so he he is introduced as having a feud with these bikers so like this biker gang like pulls up outside the bar skipping ronnie sort of like get into it a little bit because they're trying to park where these dudes park it's great because the one the new head of the bike who's like hey and you know jack john saxon's like you gotta get out of here kids

you hit the bricks and he's like hey man this is our hangout. Like, do you look a permit? Like, this is our hang. This is our legally appointed hangout. No, Steve, this falls under a little word called turf. Oh, okay. Yeah. See, that's the problem. It's a common law hangout, is what you're

saying? Yep, no permits required. It's just turf. You're hanging outside of this bar that looks like a shitty pizzeria. And this is what turf wars are. Yes. So here come, Skip and Ronnie come in and the new leader of the demons, which

a fellow named Dog DAWG. Oh, nice. He thinks there might be a little bit of a turf war here. Okay. Yeah, I could see that. Sure. I'm stepping on your turf a little bit. Well, John Saxon shoes all these guys away, so that's not a problem. John Saxon's wearing a wig holding

hat most of this movie. I just got an idea for a better movie really quick. Bikers in outer space. Okay. And it's a turf war. And the movie's called AstroTurf. Ooh, I like it. All right. Now we can go back to the Nightmare Beach. Wait, if that movie gets canceled, we could make a movie about football being played on the moon, and that could also be called Astro.

Yeah, like the longest yard, but like it's like your space measurements. Yeah, you've got to like slow jump because gravity's all fucked up. Oh, totally, dude. And how about this? Burt Reynolds is the team owner. I would love it. Or as the cop in AstroTurf. Burt Reynolds was born to play a space cop.

That's a good point. It's not too late either. What kind of spaceship does this guy drive? It isn't too late. You're right. John Saxon's name in this movie is Stryker, which I'm thinking about changing my name to Stryker. If I had to go, you know, my last name, it's Polish,

it's got a silent J in it. No, it's a real mess. You know, Steve Stryker, there you go. It's pretty badass. It's a little dynamic. Here's the test, though. I'm not tall enough to do it. Well, yeah.

I hadn't thought of that. But before any of that, this is how you get, here's how I will allow you to do this. How you spell and striker. Oh, probably S-T-R-Y. Yep, you got it. You got it. To preserve the Polack, you need the Y.

And I got a wreck of a Polish name. I almost think we should like rock paper scissors for Stryker. No, it's just both do it. And then it can be we hit movies with Andrew and the Stryker brothers. Oh, yeah. I kind of like this. Or you could get into professional wrestling and be the Stryker brothers. But we got a, we got a whole, pump the brakes a little bit.

I don't want us to run into a beaver patrol or anything like that. I mean, the thing is. Because that's starting to sound very, you know. The problem is neither of us could be married and live separately. If we were the Stryker brothers, we'd have to live in a house at a bunk bed. Clubhouse. Clubhouse. I mean, it's cool.

It's pictures of sexy ladies and we're drinking beers, but we definitely sleep in a bunk bed. Yeah, and we fetishize the police department and have handcuffs and nightsticks, but we totally like women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, totally, absolutely. We go, here we go, we're looking. Speaking of pictures of ladies, this is around the time we get the first of about four or seven

just boob montage in this movie, because let's remember everybody, this is a movie that takes place on spring break. And this is what happens on spring break. And it's another one of those, like, Man, this is just wholly unappealing for me. It's just like, we're just dancing in a large public beach venue. You know it smells.

I'm sorry. You know it smells. Everybody smells like shit. There's garbage everywhere. And this is coming from somebody who lives in New York City where everybody smells like shit and there's garbage everywhere. Every bathroom is wet and there's sand in place. Like, dude, we're a mile away from the beach. How is there sand in this bathroom?

Yeah. And also, you know, spring break, all the dumb 20-year-olds, they're, They're throwing them at the bad beach. This is where, like, the sewer runoff is. This isn't the prime real estate. Telling you, man, Stryker Brothers, take on spring break. I don't know. No, you don't take it on.

You clean it up. Oh, no. We divide and conquer. Stryker brothers. So, oh, also, one of the more obnoxious points of dialogue in this movie, there's not a lot of memorable dialogue in this movie. But before they go out for their first night of Beaver Patrol, Ronnie

It's one guy He's not a He's barely He's like an enthusiast At that point You're not a patrolman So Ronnie Noted Beaver enthusiast

He's trying He doesn't get it enough to be that He's a hobbyist He's trying to convince Skip that like It's still worthwhile to go out And he's talking about like I guess they've been friends

For years Is the idea He says like, hey, Skip, remember that time we ate all the candy in our Easter baskets? And I'm like, hey, Ronnie, could you do me a quick favor and shut the flying fuck up? What are you talking about? Easter baskets? Even Skip is like, I've been friends with this guy for too fucking long, man. Like what?

It's not even like a story. It's not like, remember when we learned this lesson when we ate this is, hey man, remember those Easter baskets? Pretty crazy. Anyway, Beaver Patrol is on the hunt. Let's go. And there's so many... Are you going to wear your jacket tonight? I bought you this Beaver Patrol jacket.

I got a size for you. On the shoulders, the Easter bunny, bro. It's coming up. We're right around Easter. Oh, and on the back, it says Mr. Kaczynski sucks. Remember our gym teacher in fourth grade, Mr. Kaczynski? And on the lower back it says, wear damn eggs. You know?

You know, they're going to go. look for the eggs. Yeah, yeah. I got it, Ronnie. I got it. Pow. Oh, man. You wanted to sit here and talk about excite bike for a while? No, Ronnie, I don't. I know you like excite bike. Hey, Skip, do you remember the Nintendo Powerpad? God, I know. I know. You know, Ronnie. Remember how your dad had one and like, it never worked? Let's, you know, let's go to the bar. Let's go to the loud bar. Which is the loudest one we can go to. That's what's really weird about this movie is that they like, there's so many like you're thinking it's about this killer but there's so many like side characters doing side things that have almost nothing to do with the plot right some of them are future

murder victims yeah well that's what i realized after it was over with and i've seen this movie maybe like three or four times at this point but what makes this different from like your average slasher movie is like there's no controlled group of friends yes right like you know counselors in a friday the 13th movie like that's just there and that's which you deal with. This is like a town where hundreds of people are blowing in on vacation and they're trying to focus on like these two idiots but mainly

just skip but then like this other girl who's a bartender whose sister got murdered. Like she comes back into the movie but like they don't have a core group of dead meats basically. So it's like we have to make them characters in any way we can so you've got the pickpocket who doesn't get it. You've got

my most hated character trope. The fucking prankster this Joker Why would you go all the way to Miami not to get laid? Like to not even not to get laid, but like to specifically turn everyone around you, man or woman, off. But that's the thing. That's what these people, these sick, twisted fucking practical joke douchebags. And let me tell you, I hate practical jokes.

These fucking people. But do you hate impractical jokes? I hate all kinds of jokes. Jokes, it's a joke. And that's the thing, right? every time they get called out for being stupid it's like what I'm just joking these fucking subhuman people

they wouldn't know a joke of it hit them in the face well that's what it's I mean look I'm getting off on a rant here but the point is like I hate practical jokes Shelley in Friday the 13th part three is another example it's like you're being so obnoxious and you wonder why people hate your fucking guts it's like because dude

just get a beer and shut up yeah George Clooney that's very true Tom Savini never did this by the way Like Tom Savini went to parties Talked about cool music Drink beer and smoked a lot of refers Sure

And that's what he did He didn't go like oh no Something stabbed me in the eye I'm bleeding And everyone goes what Exactly like we're introduced to this fucking Pervert He's like laying face down in the pool

He's got like a chicken cutlet on his shoulder And he's pretending Someone stabbed him to death And then it's like Oh why is everybody hate me Why don't I have a lady for I'm just joking. Man, I'm just joking.

Oh, do I hate it? I hate it so much. What? No, no, I'm sorry. Let's just get through his pranks right now. Let's just go through his pranks. A slew of pranks? I like this idea.

We'll go, like the entourage movie, we'll go thread by thread. There's a couple of goobers here, man. So my favorite prank of his is where he pretends to be a shark. He's like swimming in the ocean with a shark fit on. And what's great. And this is what's great. not only about the Manatee Beach PD,

but the time we were in America, where a cop could just respond to a shark at a beach and start opening fire with his revolver at it. Sure. When in doubt, blow it away. It would have been great if he killed this kid, but unfortunately he does not. Because he stands up and he goes,

stop shooting. I was just joking. And everybody in the town of Manatee Beach wants to see this dude tard and feathered. So that's one. The pool gag, that's the first one. As people start dying, he dresses up and does like blue face makeup to look like a corpse. This guy's like, oh my God, there's another kill.

There's another kill. Everyone runs. And he goes, guys, I was just joking. And it's like, why is everybody madden me up joking? All right, Andrew, you have to go on a bachelor party, which I've been a lot of bachelor parties. Some are good, some are very not. You know, you wind up, but here's the thing, you have a choice. It's a choose your own adventure.

You have to go to a bachelor party wherein... Is it my bachelor party? No, no, no. It's like a friend of yours, but you're really roped into it. Okay. One of which you know the Beaver Patrol is going to? That's paid... Turn to page 114 to that one.

The other of which, you know that there's a practical joker that's just going to be on the loose. Page 122. Oh, man. Or actually, the third would be a space vampire. That would be page one. Space Vampires was my favorite choosier and adventure. Of course it was. It's the best one. Oh, fuck. You know what?

I'm going out hunting with the Beaver Patrol. Holy shit. I mean, I'm not participating, but I'll put up with those fucking baboons over some dude that goes, oh man, I think I got something in my eye and pokes a fucking coffee creamer with a fork

and pretends his eyeball pop. And he's just joking. These fucking people with the practical jokes. Or the impracticals, whichever one. They're both useless. They're both wastes of time.

So yes, Steve, I would drink with the Beaver Patrol. You'd break bread with the Beaver Patrol. Oh, sure. And by break bread, it's probably eating at an Arby's. Oh, definitely. Okay. After nobody got anywhere, it's like, oh man, bitch is right.

That's how every night of the Beaver Patrol ends. Is them rightfully not being talked to at all and then blaming the ladies themselves all over curly fries at arby's yikes you know the audacity of arby's i've been seeing these internet ads where they're like talking about oh man putting corn beef and sauerkraut and russian dressing on some rye bread i guess somebody had to do it first i'm like you mean a fucking rubin sandwich you idiots it's been around for 2 000 years have you seen this no it's a commercial like internet ads that's literally offensive it's like somebody had

to do it first. I'm like, yeah, delicatessons hundreds of years ago, you fucking morons. That is, that is fucked up. I didn't know where you're going with that, but that's fucked up. We will save the prankster's death for the end because that does happen in the other movie. However, it really rubs me the wrong way.

Can we talk about another side story? Oh, yeah, please. The world's worst prostitute. She's just lining up some sugar dad is? Well, I don't understand. Here's the thing, like, the world's worst prostitute. She's pretty successful. To her credit. She is, but she's very lucky in that. Because her thing is she doesn't let anyone know that she's a sex worker.

She's not like, hey, man, 50 bucks for this, 100 bucks for that, $200 for whatever. She wanted to have a name tag on? This is what you do, man. You got to come up with the sob story. So that the sex is even more depressing. Well, that's the thing. Her thing is she'll go up to people and people, she'll be like, usually older dudes that are gross. And she'd be like, hey, man, oh, do you have a quarter?

because I need to call my parents because I flunked at a med school and the tuition was too much and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da and whatever you could do. And then like one thing leads to another, they go up to a gross hotel room. And like it's always the shot of like, well, that's interesting that you, you know, the circus isn't hiring and they'll go in. And then like they'll do like a bewitched flip and then they'll go out. Yeah. They've been serviced. And they'll be, well, thank you. That was wonderful.

And I hope this $100 or a non-determined amount of money. here's the thing that happens to me I'm like I got 20 bucks man like that was cool but that's Steve I'm so glad that you brought this character I think she would you pass over you first of all yeah she knows she can see when a man

might have some money although I don't know about that 600 pounder gentleman that thinks she's a masseuse but this is that was a weird one you guys are bringing up the biggest question I have with this movie right because you know she's like they're

coming out, like, folding checks and being, like, here's to next semester at med school, sweetheart, and whatever else, right? What kind of high rollers are spring break in, you know, at Manatee Beach? Who are these people? How are these

dudes, like, you know, if this dude can, let's say, drop like $1,000 on a night with his woman, right? Yeah. Why is he not like, oh, why would we go to your Grody Manatee Beach motel you're staying at? Let's go to my Well, I guess you're married at that point.

Right. But I'm saying, like, if this dude can drop a grand on an evening with a lady, why not throw in a couple more bucks and get a nicer hotel? We only know about this character, but she's staying at the same dump motel as our protagonist. They're, like, across the hall neighbors. The one thing I will say about checks, you're assuming it's $1,000, but it's 1989. You could really write a check for $41 in 1989. You know what I mean?

You write a personal check to someone for 30. Fuck it with my checkbook with Steve Stryker. Excuse me. Oh, yes, of course. The first guy that comes out, and you're right, they all get progressively older and grosser as the movie goes on. Until we get to the masseuse guy, who's this like 600-pound guy, is like, I got back problem. That guy looks like, uh, rest in peace, Bam Margera's pervert uncle. Oh, right. Don Vito.

Did he die in prison? No, he died outside of prison, but he's dead. Okay. He's in the ground. loaded or something? No, I think he just kind of died of some fat guy thing. I don't know. He's dead, but he looks like that guy. But the

first guy, though, he definitely says like, this should get you through next semester of med school. So you're talking $41. Yeah. Well, college was cheaper back then. It wasn't $41 cheap. People, you know, you talk to these baby boomers out there and they're like,

I did three shifts at Arby's and I was able to pay for college. I don't know what you millennials are doing. Also, Armie's invented the fucking Rubin sandwich. Trying to work for three days and you can pay for college, but you don't want to work. All I'm saying is I need a price. Give a job. A price card needs to be discussed up front.

Yeah. What's for what and where's for where. Well, to this movie's credit, we don't have to see any of those scenes with the negotiations. So you would approach this woman and say, can I see the menu? Excuse me, do you have a menu of any kind? Just something I could look at with, like, rates and options. I mean, I might be Steve Stryker, but I have my limits. I don't want to get overcharged.

The Stryker brothers haven't won the belt yet, so the money's not really coming in. But that happens a couple of times. Also, married to this plot line is the pervert? Yes. Oh, man. I love this guy. This guy kind of looks like if every member, all four members,

and we hate movies combined? I think I'm calling it the creeperity. Well, that's kind of like our captain planet. When all of our rings go up, this guy get emerges. This living nightmare, man. Which is fitting because I said out loud while watching it last night. This guy wishes he looked like Clint Howard. Yeah, he kind of does.

Something. He's got a sweet mustache. He's got a sweet mustache. He's bald. He's poorly. He's a little. taller than Clint Howard. Yes. That's true. And he's got an eye that's going

every which way but loose. All the better for peepin. Well, his favorite movie is clearly psycho because he's a motel entrepreneur who's got a peephole in a fucking laundry closet where he's spying on this prostitute. Unfortunately, he does not take it to killing women in the shower. No, that's

the job of the killer in this movie. I guess he's kind of a red herring in the earlier part of the movie. If it was a better made movie. He might have been. I was going to say the same thing. The movie didn't really think to carry that through. They could have, it's right there bright as day to anyone with half a brain. It kind of just says, hey, Diablo's back from the dead for the whole thing. It wants you to believe that. I think there's a little bit of red herring going on with John

Saxon towards the middle to the end. That's true. Crooked cop. So basically, but this pervert, I think she's like the third person to get killed. like it's after the masseuse guy goes out the pervert every time the pervert goes in into the broom closet he's getting a peep in and I guess unfortunately

this guy couldn't bring his electrical equipment into the broom closet so he has to choke him with piano wire well that's the thing the killer sort of goes against his M.O. a couple times in this movie and it's when he's deciding to do these indoor killings but honestly it does make sense once the killer is revealed

I think you're totally right you're totally right And we'll, you know what? We'll leave the reveal to the end, much like a Scooby-Doo episode. But so, yeah, this motel clerk gets garreted. And, like, the lady looks and sees an eyeball, like, in the hole, which it's kind of weird because, like, when you look at what she's looking at, it's a huge hole in the wall. And she's like, say, that hole didn't have an eye in it before. We did it have something else in it, if you know what I'm saying?

Oh, Lord, no, it's definitely not a glory hole. It's spring break. Spring break. So she, by the way, in this, we can talk about her outfit for two seconds, her death outfit, which is a large pink and blue Garfield like house shirt with an

Ares symbol on it. And I was like, oh fuck, because that's the girl from troll two wears almost the same shirt. Really? But apparently there was a series of Garfield T-shirts in the 80s that used zodiac symbols. Yes. As well as Garfield.

Wow. You were bound to attract killers If you're fighting the Zodiac and Garfield Well, I think that they were thrilled Of the Zodiac with, they were like Oh, it's over with now we can reclaim it I think if Steve Stryker approached this woman Could you wear the Garfield shirt?

How much for the Garfield shirt? Well, it turns out there's two things That Garfield really loves. Put it on. Put it on. He loves lasagna and he loves astrology. The best Garfield performances was always when Saturn was in retrograde

or Mercury or however that horseship works. Whatever that bull hockey is. So she finds the dude is dead and she runs the elevator and in the elevator thankfully there's power lines where this guy kind of just zaps her head. And no, this is the one where it's in the

mouth. Oh yeah, that's uncomfortable. It's like electrical wires like in your mouth and this movie speaking to Tom Savini. I mean listen the whole thing is Umberto Lindsay tried to deny that he like directed this movie and it was actually this other guy but like this movie has the gore

effect style of Italian like extreme horror stuff like this girl just melts basically it's like she looked in the arc of the covenant her whole fucking skeleton is shown by the end of this I feel is this the one with the furnace or am I getting ahead of my son? No the furnace

is a little later the furnace is later but this but it's like that's a real that's a real that's an arc of the covenant my friend yeah that's a real brutality So, the next person to die is our buddy Ronnie. Oh, thank God. And you're just praying for Ronnie's death for minute one anyway. RIP Beaver Patrol, unfortunately.

They fought valiantly. They died. They died with their boots on. He died doing what he loved, sexually harassing women. He did. He did. No, he does. One of the, my favorite parts is so, like, at the bar, Skip and who will become his girlfriend later in the movie,

this bartender who like is she's had it she's kind of I think she should probably stop living in this town in general Oh yeah Yeah she's a local Is Diablo killed her sister? Correct supposedly

Yes And One of the things He catches her eye Because like this girl Who's actually the reverence daughter comes up to him And it looks like he's about to get killed

Actually she's like Hey man you want to go out in the alley And have a good time And I'm like is there like three guys out there that are going to beat this shit out of me? Right. That's where I go when I hear that.

Yeah. So Ronnie goes out of the alley with this girl. This girl is not the reverend's daughter. This is a biker chick. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well, he's talking about... The reverend's daughter harasses Skip. Exactly.

But Ronnie is lured out by the biker's sick. He's actually just walking the boardwalk drunk at this point in the movie. And he's like going up to every... Hey, you want to see something? Yeah, and you know what, Ronnie? I think it's about 8.45 p.m. I'm inventing chat roulette.

What if there was a thing where you could, like, look into a TV and someone's just showing you their shit? It's like a million-dollar idea. What? There's too many of us doing it. Oh, man, the numbers are all messed up. Oh, goodness. So the nerd in the back is like, oh, no, our pervert model has failed.

We didn't account for the amount of gross people. My God, look at those numbers. My God. Wits full of dicks. Bravo. I'm afraid I can't let you jerk off. Dave. Yes.

So Ronnie goes into the alley with this lady, friend. and we know her to be part of the demons. Uh-huh. And so here comes the rest of the demons. And they kick the shit out of them. Dog included, because this is Dog's lady, by the way. Yeah, and I was pretty thrilled about this. Oh, the day of the dog has come.

Oh, it's so cathartic, man. Just watching this dude get his ass handed to him. You know, I'm kind of wishing this movie was about the motorcycle game. Yeah? Well, because here's the thing. Either you have a movie with a motorcycle game. Yeah. Or you have a movie about Spring.

break. And Mary the two should ever meet. No. It's just, it's really awkward. And it's ruining spring break for everybody else that there's a biker gang. This Italian's like, one of the two major forces of Americana. Spring break and biker gangs. Yeah, you know, Umberto wasn't wrong. So he gets a shit kicked out of him. The woman steals his medal. He's got this like, I guess, whatever. It's like a football medal. Is it a medal that you get if you lose the orange bowl, but it's like a

participatory? I think that's why it's like, like silver. Yeah. It's like second place. I think it's actually pewter, but yeah. I pewter meddled at the orange bowl. But that's all college sports is. You know, it's like, you're still winners.

No, none of those college athletes are winners and that's the problem with it. You're right. No, so the greatest thing, and this is, it's kind of I love in a movie or in real life. I've seen it happen a couple times in real life, not as much as I'd like. And not really to anyone I've ever known. Wait, a biker murdering people? No, no, no, before the murder. Someone getting like a drink poured on them.

Oh, yeah. And this chick takes this bottle of like wild turkey or old granddad or whatever it is and just starts dumping it on this guy. He's been beating the shit. Yeah. And she, it's not like a fuck you, poor and then I'm out of here. She's letting this bottle empty out on this guy. Bravo, lady.

Bravo. We've all, and I'm just giving her a standing ovation in my liver. living room. This is the Beaver Patrol. I mean, that's the thing is like,

this is not a sympathetic character. No, not at all. And then like, he wakes up and the killer is there and he's like, hey,

biker, you think you're hot shit. You want to fight. You want to fight. And the biker's like, all right, come on. Got to get him closer to the bike. Got to get him closer to the bike. Oh,

why'd I do it this way? All right, come on, pal. Come closer to the bike. He nurses him back to hell for 12 months. Amongst the dunes.

Just so you can. sit on the back of my bike and I can kill you proper. Oh, don't come after me too fast. You've been unconscious for a long time. You've only had milk and water in your body. Have some bread first. I'd love it if he was blind

so it's like Frankenstein when that blind man takes the monster into his cabin. Oh, it's perfect. So he grabs his hand and makes him touch the part of the bike that electrocutes him, he electrocutes him. And RIPD, Ronnie. RIPD, any possibility of the Beaver Patrol.

any success on spring break. Lights up like a Roman candle. And John Saxon is the chief and Michael Parks is the doctor. Corner. The corner slash medical examiner probably. And then there's a mayor involved and now we're in Jaws country.

Oh, big time. This guy's apeen Murray Hamilton like nobody's business. I don't know what I understand. It's like the good thing about spring break is it's only a week. And everyone's here anyway. So he's like, oh no,

if the word about the murder is gets out spring break's gonna be ruined i'm like didn't you already make your money on spring break it's all i mean it's such horseshit like specious reasoning anyway like you tell a bunch of kids like oh hey 30 000 kids uh some guy from the beaver patrol got murdered no one's going anywhere no one's spring spring break is safer this killer's doing the lord's work but it's like in jaws with the shark they don't want to tell the populace because it would ruin shark week well he's concerned Murray Hamilton is specifically concerned about the 4th of July.

But also, that's like a whole season. As Steve said, this is literally like a week and then all these fucking horny pigs are out of here anyway. You've already got the hotel reservations. You can't break those. You can be that money. That's true. That's true. And then it goes back to sewage beach anyway. All right, take all the manatee signs

down. Put sewage back up. Let her rip. But the weird thing is, so like, in Jaws, they don't hide murder. They're just like, oh, fuck, it's going to get out. It's going to here like John Saxon is burying these dudes outside of town limits and it's kind of weird in like a salt mine dude I thought it was salt mine it is it like a thing it's extra well I had to ask my wife this I was like you're from Florida honey um is this where they keep

the beach sand slash corpses are they like are they trucking in a bunch of sand to the like it's just a field full of sand it makes no sense it's really wait did she confirm it made no sense. Yeah, she was like my husband's an idiot, but this makes no sense. So the weird thing is, like, they're having these conversation, you know, your standard jaws-ass conversation. Like, we got, and like, Michael Parks is the one guy is like, look, what do, how are we going to hide these murders? Like, it's not right. Blah, blah, blah. And they have this weird, like, dropped line, which is actually like an interesting character note where the, where the mayor puts him in his place. Yeah, where the mayor is like, oh, yeah, shut up. We own you, you, you crooked medical examiner, because we won't tell anybody about those pills you give all your pretty. boys. And it's like Michael Parks just looks like well all right and then like John Saxon's like I'm not listening I'm not listening

and like that's the end of that. I kind of want this to be Michael Parks's movie. Yeah. Because he's the only fucking legitimate actor in this movie. John Saxon. Well okay yeah. Andrew I'm not a legitimate actor. Get out of here John Saxon I pay you to clean my

toilet and I guest on my podcast. You know all I need is two more toilet cleanings I can afford a good wig and you'll see me at the Oscars next year speaking of which you got any staples or what he's got to get that clog fixed first it's pretty bad hey wait a second serious question in all serious question of we hate movies

in all the years that he's been active in the Thespian community has John Saxon ever attended the Academy Awards Ooh, probably not. I'm leaning on ooh, probably not also. He might have been Joe Don Baker's date one year. No, you know what he was doing? He was cold call in Charlotte Rampling this year.

Hey, we're kind of in the same age bracket. I'll pick you up at seven. Remember me, baby. Hey, you're kind of racist. I'm kind of racist. I hate what happened to Hollywood. That's his opening line Johnny Sachs want to be my date

to the 1979 Academy Awards No, I don't want to go that bad Baker. Can you believe that Marlon Brando got that native to accept? What a I'm not going to even say it. John Saxon

and Joe Don Baker's slightly racist Oscar phone calls? Oh, yeah. I want those tapes. That was what, before live tweeting, it was Jono Baker and John Sexton on the phone to each other for the entire Oscar ceremony. Just bitching about the ceremony?

Ah, not her again. Don't worry, I'm going to get there next year. I got a movie coming out called Joysticks. That'll get me there. Yeah, did you cast the role of idiot yet? Ordinary people. Joe Don, does anyone watch these movies?

I was in a Bruce Lee movie once. Once. Yeah. Oh, mercy. But yeah, that whole thing gets dropped. And Michael Parks is like drinking a bunch. At a certain point, Skip, like, threatens Michael Parks, finds out what's going on. And Michael Parks tells him where all the bodies are buried.

So he goes out there and here's the thing. a commissioner striker, whatever your name is, you're now in a murder conspiracy. And the way murder conspiracies work is anybody who finds out about them have to be murdered. So he goes out there, he digs up his friend. He's like, oh, Ronnie, what they do to you, man? Dude, this is one of the worst bits of acting you'll ever see.

It's all just this guy like, oh, Ronnie, man, I'm sorry, man. You know what, the Beaver Patrol was a great idea, man. I just can't believe you're dead. Oh, and I lost the orange ball. You know, I'm going to carry on the legacy of the Beaver Patrol. Remember that time we ate all the candy in our Easter baskets? And I'm just looking at my watch. Like, this is the fucking worst delivering monologue you've ever heard.

And he's like, hey, kid, when you're done trying to act, there's a scene about to start Saxon style. He's right behind him with the squad car. And he's got a shovel. And I really thought this was going to, hey, kid, dig your own grave. Oh, yeah. Which I would have loved. Sure. I love that in a movie.

But he gives him, he's like, all right, kid, you didn't see nothing or else I'm going to kill you. Now go back to society. I'm sorry, it's one of the greatest John Saxon deliveries ever. He goes, you're going to get in your car and you're going to drive north till you see snow. That's pretty good. And I was like, whoa, badass. Oh, you mean drive north until you hit the FBI who's about to come and destroy? Like, you can't let this kid walk out of here.

Kid, you're naive. States rights. Listen, who knew that the plot of Nightmare Beach was going all the way to the top? It's pretty impressive. So now he knows Saxon's in on it. He talks to his girlfriend. And they wake up the president. Yeah, they pick up the red phone.

They're like, you've got to get down to fucking Manatee Beach, Florida. No, I don't. Oh, no, this is George HW here. Right, but they probably made it in 87. Oh, okay. Maybe it was a transitional. Maybe that's why the feds don't get involved. Ron, I think I think I'll still leave this one up to you.

Don't need this on my record. Don't need to deal with Manatee Beach, Ron. Don't need to do it. Not going to go down to Manatee. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to regulate the crooked sheriffs. The crooked sheriffs want to bury people across state lines. I'm not going to regulate that.

Well, I mean, it's low crime if they don't exist. You know, it's weird down there, George. They got a whole parking lot full of sand. I thought the sand went on the beach, George. Why don't you get to the bottom of that? Oh, no. The kid that was killed down there was part of my son's alma mater, the Beaver Patrol. Hey, Poppy, you see my friend from the Beaver Patrol got murdered?

You got to do something. They were the rival to the skull and bones. Very proud of the heritage of Beaver Patrol. Got a patch on one of my jackets. It's a beaver with sunglasses on bar. Because he's a beaver, but he's on patrol bar. He's looking out, Barr. Is that where he found Barr?

One last night, boys. One more Called back for one last Beaver Patrol Back in the saddle bar No no He did a Goodwill hunting His buddy from the Beaver Patrol

Went to pick him up one night There was a letter that just said Gotta go see about a girl And it was him driving up to Harvard With Miss Misery playing Ronald Reagan's like How do you like them apples? Mommy?

What does this be? Mommy, I don't know. I hate apples. That George H.W. is a real genius, and he's wasting his potential with that beaver patrol. You went Mandura hard on that one. So what's going on in this movie, so John Saxon's not making him dig his own grave?

So he lets him go, and he... Oh, right, drive north till he sees snow. He recruits the girl whose name escapes me. He recruits the lady whose sister was killed to help him put John Saxon behind bars because now he's convinced John Saxon is the guy doing the killing. Yeah, they're like super, super convinced.

And so they break into his trailer. I kind of like his house, man. What? Listen, if my life, God forbid, ever falls apart. Oh, if you're on the Skids, this is a pretty good Skids apartment. Here's the thing, though. I wasn't paying attention last night,

and I kind of like was looking down on my computer, and then I looked up and I'm like, whose trailer are they in and why? They're just trying to find evidence on for Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just, you know, it's Daphne and, you know, Fred looking for clues. If we're talking about beachside trailers that cops live in, I'm taking rigs from lethal weapon. He's got the best one.

Mel Gibson's got the best one. Although they both do have, what, a German Shepherd of some sort? Yeah, they do. And John Saxton gets maced in the face. This dog gets maced. It's one of your, it's your classic, like, dog. Like, it's just water, but the dog kind of hates it. Anyway. Like, you know what I mean? It's obviously, it's supposed to be maced, but the dog's like, oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, and then so, oh, the lady's name is Gail, by the way. And so, like, Skip's just like, by the way, we invite you to the wedding of Skip and Gail. Can you see those invitations? Uh, so like, he's just like, uh, what the fuck was that? And she goes, oh, it's pepper spray. I got it. You know, after my sister was murdered. That shut Skip right up. Yeah, that's going to win a lot of arguments for a lot of years. They go, they go into his.

house and like John Sacks that's like a wall of shotguns. There's a wall of shotguns. There's a pile of photographs on the table, all of dead girls. And keep in mind that both Steve and Andrews said they'd like to live here. No, no. Here's the thing.

Shotcuts can probably stay. But the dead girl stuff and the weird bondage paraphernalia he has in his house, that can go. He's got a really sweet like tube television entertainment center. That's pretty badass. A couple leather couches. Yeah. See, opposite for me. I'd say, take the guns, leave the

girls. I don't need the guns, but you know exactly what this trailer is, right? It kind of smells like cigarettes. There's a lot of like half drank whiskey bottles cap off. The most complicated meal

made in this house was scrambled eggs. That's where we're living right now. And that shag carpeting is sterilized from all the times he stumbled to bed holding a bottle. Oh, yeah. That's the other thing. though you can't that's why I said it smells kind of like cigarettes

because he had to stop smoking in there because if you're dropping ash yeah it's just it's gonna go up he would go up in flames with all the alcohol spilled so the girl rips up a picture of her sister she has a little freak out she's like I can't believe it's at my daughter in there and then like

John Saxon comes and finds his dog outside ruffles what are you doing out here he's like but he actually is like looking at him looking for an answer it's like I'm not leaving until I hear an answer, Ruffles. Something bad must have happened. He's not talking to me anymore.

Now it's my movie and I communicate with animals. I'm like Aquaman, but with dogs. Dude, I need a John Saxon movie where he's just talking with dogs. That's why H.W. stationed me at Manatee Beach to communicate with the manatees. Now, Mr. Saxon, we need you to get down there. Gotta start seeing what those dogs know. Got to find this killer, John. Got to sniff them out.

What better way to sniff something out than with a pooch nose. I need you sober, John. Dogs don't like talking to drunk people. I'll be a doolittle, all right? Oh, classic mistake, Mommy. The new guy assigned Saxon to do some detective work. They learned the hard way, Mommy. Mommy?

I asked him to infiltrate that karate studio. That didn't work out. That's probably pre-hand. Whatever. so whatever at the end of this movie which is kind of where we're going anyway

sure the the biker gang decides to break out a dog because he gets arrested John Saxon's just like I'm just going to arrest you with no evidence baby I own this down poor dog is the fall guy and it's not John Saxon's dog it's DAWG dog thank you for a second I was confused

I was like never arrest my own dog dumbass he told me he didn't do it. Listen, I believe my pooch. How could he do it if he's teaching a class at the community college? Oh, man.

The Manatee Beach Community College. Look out for a flock of losers there. I see you a grade in papers, Doug. I guess, wait, Bach, Bach, I guess these guys get bees. Woof. Oh, that buddy got an F. Here's a question I have about the Manatee Police

Force, Manate Beach Police Force. Is John Saxon the only active member of the squad? There's a, well, we're going to get there because there's a couple of losers that are underneath him that are so inept and gleefully so, one of which is the guy that fires on the shark. You see him a couple

of times. And one guy's answered the phone being like, we don't have the manpower for that. I guess that crime just happened by. Yeah, he does do that. Click. Before this happens, Michael Parks kills himself in it's a real like it's a glorious cinema suicide so he calls up the mayor it's like john saxon the mayor after somebody gets killed this it's it's out now like but i think uh the guy

the killer kills somebody at a furnace and burns her head off which is kind of awesome oh yeah and dumps her body in front of city hall like kind of like you got to deal with this yes um so now it's out and is that the one sorry to interrupt but is that the one where um Someone goes, oh no, there's been another murder. And then there's like a stampede of people. It's a spring break stampede. Yes. Like everyone just starts running through the town.

I don't even know where they're going. And again, nobody's leaving. They're still attending concerts, going to the bar. Yeah, they're running the liquor store. Yeah, I would be. Just start a spring break riot. Sure. So Michael Parks calls the mayor and he's like, hey, you ruined my life.

You, you know, I'll never work at this town. again and he's like ah shut up but he's like oh yeah and like puts a gun in his mouth and blows his brains out over the phone yep which is kind of like too lazy to kill you walk over to the mayor's office and kill yourself a little bit right phoned in that suicide well no and here's here's the other part about it is he's being a little bit of a jerk because listen you're not like uh you know he does say listen to this well but you know one you're lazy and you're not going over to the mayor's office to do the deed. You're also like not going on live TV and doing it, right?

Like, there's no proof that he actually committed suicide. Like, the mayor then has to be like, send someone over to Michael Parks's place, please. I'm pretty sure he killed himself, but I couldn't fucking see anything. So it's like a radio play at that point. Sure. It's the shadow. Are you suggesting people Bud Dwyer? That's all I'm saying.

That's what you're concerned about. is they didn't find the body fast enough get that shit cleaned up yeah yeah whatever so at the so um the bikers like oh man I can't believe they took dog we run this town because there's like three policemen and 30 of us so they go

into the police office and yeah it's the net of some big concert he's like well sorry everyone's doing all sorts of crowd control I guess we can't solve that crime click this band by the way that you see up on stage for this before it's like,

there's been another murder! Yeah, yeah, yeah. The band that's playing like that night. Cold Sliver. It's a bunch of dipshits on a stage is what... I mean, it's so... It's amazing. I love this band.

It's like so beautifully 1980s nonsense. Why can we get to gleaming spires, man? Oh, yeah. What were they up to, huh? It's a good question. Try to communicate with a dog. Unsuccessfully. So the...

it's the easiest prison break in history they kind of just go in there and put a chain around this dude's neck and he's like oh bye it's weird the fact that they successfully take over a police station is pretty impressive

it's a feather in the cap of the demons yeah no this is something future generations of demons will be talking about for years to come and I was like you know why wasn't I watching the demons the whole time they get shit done exactly um they do

they break out dog and dog steals a gun And he's like, oh, we're not done tonight. Not by damn sight. It runs away. At this point, the prankster is murdered. That's what breaks up the concert pretty big. But here's my problem with that. Okay.

Is that I hate this character. Sure. I hate this dirty, rotten, practical Joker guts. Oh, that one. Yeah. There's so many to hate. Yeah. You just hate them all.

No, I hate this guy. And off-screen murder. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that. fuck that hard and it's all because like they're trying to do like a boy who cried wolf situation like he's pretended that he's dead so many times so the cop comes up and this dude's like hanging from something and the cop's like i don't worry kids it's just that stupid prankster everybody hates and he pushes him and this body just falls on the floor and they're like everyone goes ap shit and this cop gets on the radio and it's like we've lost control entirely and it's like this is this is the reason Manatee Beach PD sucks. Right, and this is when

John Saxon gets all the birds in the sky and the chipmunks and the fishes to come out of the water to save the town from the bikers. Dude, it's like the ending. It's the end of Ace Ventura too.

Exactly. Friends, quadrupeds, lend me your ears. I wish. No, but actually, Skip enacts a really shitty plan where he goes up to Gail and he's like all right Gail we know he like at one point he follows her on her motorcycle

we know he's going to be looking for you on your motorcycle what you do is get on that motorcycle you draw his attention and keep in touch if I'm there he won't do it so you just keep in touch and I'm like well there's no cell phones but apparently they have these enormous

walkie talkies out of nowhere these things come so it's also hilarious too because she's definitely just on like this little moped. Yeah. And it's like she's just puttering down this quiet Florida road. Sure, but don't get murdered. Oh, and I

think right before this one, Diablo's own girlfriend gets killed. Yeah, she does. So that's sort of like the first like, oh, why would Diablo do that? Oh, right, it starts chipping away at this idea that it's this mythical murder. A man has risen from the grave.

Yes. Which like, I mean, you don't buy that for a second. This movie, from the start, you can tell this movie's not paranormal activity stuff. Well, I think there's a scene towards the beginning where his grave has been disturbed. Someone stole the body. So you don't know. It might have risen.

There could be ghoulish nonsense. Who knows? He is risen. What I love about the demons, by the way, it's a sick reference. And again, something that it makes this whole Umberto Lenzie argument of like, I didn't direct this. Someone else did nonsense.

The demons, right? Demons is a Lumberto Bava movie, a great horror movie that was made a few years before this. And Demons, the way it's spelled on their jacket, is the font that's used on like the posters and everything for this film Demon. So, you know, he fucking directed this movie, okay? Well, it was really Harry Kirkpatrick.

And I was just there the whole time. He's got to hang it out. It's a Tim Burton situation. So as she calls in, she's like, oh, my God, he's right behind me. And he's like, okay, I'm in this parking lot. It's my favorite lot. It happens twice. This big fat guy's driving a truck.

And he's like, hey, this guy's trying to peel out and save her. Right. He's like, what do you own the street? And then, like, they cut away to her. And she's like having like a white knuckle chase with this guy. And then they come back. A five mile an hour white knuckle chase. And they come back to him again.

And the other guy's still demanding to know. he's like, what, do you own the street? Like, he says it twice in a row. But then Skip just like screams at this guy. And the guy's like, oh, okay, buddy. And like, back, you do own this street. Wow. Can you tell me how it is you came to own this street?

I'd like to dabble in street ownership. I've been checking Zwillow every day. See when that street's coming up for sale. So they get to, oh, by the way, he calls out there. He's like, all right, Gail, go to your father's junkyard. And I'm like, when did that happen? Nobody knew Gail's father had a junkyard movie. Yeah, well, see, because this is the disgusting beach town, as we've been saying.

That's what the industry of the town is sewage, police enforcement, and junkin. Scrapping. He's a junker. So, he goes, last act of the junkyard, Gail's running around, the guy's chasing her. John Saxon goes up to Skip because I think he just wants to kill Skip at this point Well, because he told him to fucking get out of town

And he sees him, he's like, you son of a bitch Here it comes, baby And then John Saxon I'm not gonna have, I'm not gonna kill you My friend Mr. Woodchuck's gonna kill you And then he's mauled by a woodchuck That'd be great No, I just imagine we took the gut

Like two onechucks with a revolver Oh I thought it was Dave Cooleyé's pathetic puppet from that fucking Fuller house. He's still got that puppet. Hey, Woodchuck meet Beaver Patrol. Go for the wood, if you know

what I'm saying. But then John Saxon is shot. So he goes down, and this is the greatest part of this movie. He gets shot in the chest. You're like, oh my God. And it's dog. It's dog. And they come up and they're like, yeah, Saxon! And they just kidnap this guy

and drag him off and that's the end of it. Well, they put a... He's been shot in the chest and he's bleeding out and they put a chain around his leg and drag him from a motorcycle. Yikes.

It's just not... It's, that storyline's not finished. I want that demons movie. It's justified, well, yes, of course, but that is justified because Diablo was set up. Yes. That was all bullshit.

No, but it's just amazing that this character is just dragged off. He's dragged out of the movie. Right. The movie City Limit. Yeah, he just goes right. I don't think they meant to do that.

I think they just went a little too far and they were out of the movie and they couldn't come back. You cease to exist after you go a certain yardage out of the movie, you know? You're like too far away from the cameras. They're like, oh no, we were just supposed to tape him up to the wall, the police station in his underwear, but we left the movie. Now the audience is going to think we killed him. It's kind of like in a dodge ball game. Like you can't come back until somebody catches it.

Like, oh, maybe they'll mention us again. We'll come back in the movie. That's exactly it. Yeah, they're sitting on the outskirts of town. Well, shockingly, Skip's not like, hey, what happened to that guy that tried to kill me multiple times? Yeah, he's not too worried about it. He's like, ah, the demons will take care of it. Right on, noble demons.

So, you know, the ending in this movie's stupid. They, like, get in a fight with the killer. The helmet comes off. And whoops, it's this preacher character. Who has, like, three scenes or so. Yeah, he's always lecturing his daughter about going out and going out. getting drunk and being well yeah he's like the extremely

righteous whatever so this is why it makes sense he would kill the the prostitute and the pervert and right and uh pranking is also I think against the Bible now shalt not prank thou shalt better not fucking prank that was the 11th commandment but

the goddamn Andrew Jupin Bible fell off the rock before Moses got down from that mountain oh Moses looks like the bottom of this second one's chipped a little bit no no it's fine Are you sure? I don't even know what pranking means. I'm not even, you know, I'm not going to say it.

I don't even know what pranking is. He's just like, nope, not reading that, not reading that one. Okay, I'll use that one. That's pretty good. Ha, ha, you've been into that apple and there's a worm in it, biblical pranks. So, he's a 60-year-old man. I guess he was on the A-team for a while. Like, he was like, the antagonist of the A-team or something, or maybe the friend.

I don't know. I didn't watch any of the A-team. He was like, what of the, you know. It should have been George Pappard playing this way. Oh, man. You want a good serial killer. You get George Pippard in your 80s slasher. The thing that's awesome about this, though, is that when the helmet comes off and he's just got this motorcycle outfit on, it's just a leather daddy costume.

And here's this old man like, I'm going to get you, sinners. And I'm like, just look at you. Yeah. Bring out the gimp. Someone's repressed. So like there's two It's your classic horror movie thing Where he's like choking

Skip and he's about to kill him And Gail grabs this pipe It hits him over the back Because he's just a dude And like you know he lets go of Skip And then they start to run I'm like no no you've got a pipe This old murderer is down

Yep let's finish this Oh finish the job Steve Absolutely get the fucking Stryker brothers in there A couple of stunners Elbow drop from the top, bro? Totally. The Stryker brothers are experts at cracking an old man's skull.

Exactly. Break that fucker's neck off the top turnbuckle, of course. But no, I mean, you... By God, this old pre-serial killer is dead. And I mean, he is literally dead, folks. I mean, they didn't take any chances. God bless him. But you don't leave...

Wire have a last act chase thing. No, it's so stupid. We hit him once. That always happens to the screen movies. You knock down ghosts. face and then you're running to the other room. No, no, no. You crush his head until he's dead. Yes. Anything. Anything to take care of the situation to the point

where you don't even have to question him. I'm crushing your head. I'm crushing your head. Oh no, Mommy. They should have turned his head into jelly. This nightmare beach is pretty stupid. Just like we did to that alien, Mommy. We turned his head into jelly. Mommy, you remember when we killed that alien? He definitely.

Definitely has green blood on his hands. I'll say that much. That's how we celebrate it. That's how we rang in our 50th anniversary, Mommy. Splattering alien brains. So I'm picturing Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan. Yeah, sure. With a gray alien tied up in the bedroom. Yep.

Ronnie Reagan dancing around like he's Michael Madsen and Reservoir dogs. Yep. I'm with you so far. And they're just like going to town on this alien, like torturing it to death. Yeah. Oh, wow. It's tough. Well, you know, you've been in a car.

in a relationship that long. Sure. Gotta spice it up somehow. Yes. I can't find any ears tick it off, Mommy. Doesn't have a nose either, Mommy.

Stuck in the middle with you, Mommy. So this dude gives chase. He does. He gets back on his... Briefly. Why let him get back

on his motorcycle? But he does. He hits a tire? It's like a tire from a monster truck. I don't know how this thing got in there. I guess it's just like generic scrapyard junk.

This dude hits it, which come on, you can see this thing clear as day. He flies off and then very, you know, fittingly into some scrapyard electrical wires that are just hanging loose. As they would be. And this dude just fries up. Here's the thing that you realize

by the way, when you get to the end of this movie and it's revealed like who the killer is, you start to think like, of course it's this old bastard. Because look at that motorcycle. It's not a motorcycle that's like part of the demons like a badass like that is

a weekend warrior bullshit it certainly is this dude gets AM and FM on this fucking thing it's the dumbest I think there's like fake wood paneling on the side of it yeah it's bullshit it's such a loser motor there's no MC on his back

and it doesn't even you know if you don't have that you got to say lone wolf at least yeah and it's not it's got like it's got extra security on the side so he can't fall off exactly I tell you guys, once I was in northern Mexico driving through in the desert, I saw this, like, stereotypical, like, badass biker, like a, like a, like an American myth. Oh, yeah. Was it the renegade?

Yeah, I think it was. It was Lorenzo Llamas himself. But we were heading north to Nogales, Mexico. And this, he appeared out of nowhere. Shit, dude. And on his, on his, on his back. Yeah. Instead of like a motorcycle club, it said, lone wolf.

Whoa. And like in the same type of font And the curvature, man It was chillingly awesome Dude, I think that might be the coolest thing I've ever heard Not for nothing That's fucking badass

I don't know, striker brothers though Have you given enough thought to the striker brother? Yeah, but here's the thing Striker brothers badass tag team sure How about this though? Stryker brothers plumbing It's kind of the same You know

It's an interchangeable striker brothers whatever that will happen if the beaver patrol is successful oh shit so this preacher is dead and we're just driving in this dude's car and the only thing left after this like you've had this traumatic experience and whatnot sure this chick finally saw her sister's real killer get murdered by the way which thanks a lot fucking american capital punishment god damn diabol went down for nothing he was telling the truth the whole time think about all the innocent people we execute in this country it is unconscionable it's crazy and i mean diablo's just one example he should still be out there leading that biker gang yeah dog should be the number two yeah exactly you know

diablo steps down or there's some type of uh knife fight where they're strapped together oh sure Oh, yeah, totally. Speaking of Biker Gang, stay tuned for Stone Cold. Stone Cold. Oh, the, what's his face movie? Brian Bosworth. Yeah, the Biker Gang movie. Yeah.

It's worth it, man. But so, in all of these movies, like what happens, you see a life ended after several other lives have ended by that life that just ended. Sure. Of course, you're horny A.F. You know what I mean? And so they're driving. And they're like, all right, yeah, what an adventure.

And he turns and starts making out with her, like, while driving this car. And I'm looking at my watch like eight, nine, ten. Will you please watch the road, man? You're just making out. It's weird because they don't have any kind of intercourse or real chemistry either. But like usually in the middle of these movies, it's like, oh, man, how are you going to survive? Dude, did you mean discourse and you said intercourse? No, I meant

They don't have sex in the middle of the movie Oh, you did literally mean sex Usually that happens in the middle of the movie We're like towards the end It's like, you know We're gonna die tonight Might as well get it over with This is why they're victorious

Against this killer Yeah, they didn't get down to fucking You know But then how do you explain the jokester? That's just I guess a mercy killing For the community For everyone Yeah, I think so

I think that was like I'm doing a lot of bad Here's some communal good I feel like that wasn't even him, though. I think somebody was just like, dude, if I off this guy right now, they're just going to chalk it up to the serial killer. Dude, I would love it if they're like, and you killed Robbie, and you killed dog's girlfriend,

and you killed the hotel manager and the prostitute and the jokester. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't kill the fucking jokester. I hated him just as much as the rest of us. But let's be honest, who's thinking about killing the jokester right now? you're right i mean anybody could have taken that dude or if he was like i thought he was funny oh my god this guy's a real monster oh actually wait a minute

he's a weird like comedy guy autoerotic asphyxiation oh very possible that's how nine out of ten of those guys go it's true that's a big honestly autoerotic association is the number one killer amongst prop comedians totally yeah look out carrot top

Would anybody recommend this movie? Yeah, anything called Nightmare Beach, I'm going to recommend. I mean, I don't even think I watch this movie. No, it's a fun 80s romp. It is way too late for what it is. Like, the music is awesome. We haven't talked about that enough. It's so rules.

It's fun. I like it. I would definitely recommend it. It's just ridiculous 80s murder nonsense as, you know, it could have used it talking dog, but it's pretty. good. Most movies could use a talking dog. I will say I really enjoyed the scenes with John Saxon

and Michael Parks as a character actor nerd. I kind wanted a lot more of that and there's not nearly enough. It's just these two stone-faced not teenagers running through this situation. That's true. Which is a strike against the movie. Yeah, the problem with your like teen murder

horror movie is that your two best actors are like 50 year old dudes. Yeah. But this movie's a hardcore recommend. It's right that beautiful wheelhouse of like skis 80s fun. Yeah. And I wish there was a Nightmare Beach franchise. I mean, you know, who knows?

Maybe we should reboot it. We can get John. Hey, Andrew, can I be in Nightmare Beach too? I don't know. How's that kitchen sink looking? I find any fucking dishes in there. We're not negotiating. No, I'm doing your dishes.

God damn it. That's Nightmare Beach. from 1989 directed by Umberto Lenzie if you want to get a hold of us and find out more information about this fine show check out our website WHMpodcast.com or find us over at syshownetwork.com

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Ryan, Philips. Robin Philippi. Who would have been a good Robin? Robin Hunter. No, I think that's his name. Robin Leach. No, Ryan Philippe, it's a cyber thriller.

Tim Robbins is in a... Tim Robbins, that's what I'm doing. He's like a Steve Jobs type fella. I think... No, yeah, it's definitely Rachel Lee Cook is in that film. Yes. I think Claire Forlani might be in there as well.

I know. It's 2000 anything could happen. That's what we thought back then. It's 2000 anything could happen. Yeah, and final note. Isaac. Yes. Yes, of course Isaac, who wrote in from California. Well, I think it's

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