We Hate Movies - S6: WHM On-Screen: Captain America: Civil War
Episode Date: May 20, 2016On this episode of WHM On-Screen the guys finally get around to sharing their thoughts about the latest entry into the MCU, Captain America: Civil War! Topics discussed include the fact that the film ...is just, "The Avengers without all that Thor magic," Black Panther is a bad-ass, awesome character, it was a good move letting Elizabeth Olsen tone down that accent, what it would sound like if Ray Liotta wound up playing Uncle Ben, and of course, whether or not Vision has some sort of genitalia! Captain America: Civil War stars Chris Evans, Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Mackie, Don Cheadle, Jeremy Renner, Chadwick Boseman, Paul Bettany, Elizabeth Olsen, Paul Rudd, Emily VanCamp, Tom Holland, Daniel Brül, William Hurt, Marisa Tomei, and Frank Grillo; directed by Joe & Anthony Russo.Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to W.H.M. On the screen, everybody. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Stephen Sadek and Eric Siska. We're here.
Howdy, partners?
Yes, howdy all around?
Howdy, Quaid?
Give these people air
Cohegan
We are here
To as promise
Talk about
The Marvel Studios film
Captain America
Colan Civil War
Or as I've been calling it
The Avengers
Minus all the magic
No one cares about
And the magic is Thor
Thor and some
You know
Hulke mutations
Infinity Stones
Gondlets
It's a street level
Avengers movie
Exactly right
You're going to dig into the movie.
So if you haven't seen it, press pause, go to the theater and come back and press play.
Exactly right.
Because I'm going to say, there's no, yeah, there's no Thanos at the end of the movie.
I thought that fucking gauntlet for sure was.
Oh, I was ready for Grimmis's skin cancer afflicted grandfather to appear on screen.
I was excited.
I was like, what's Thanos going to wear this time?
Man, because I'll tell you what, I rewatched Ultron.
And it ends with him literally doing.
the old like fine i'll do it myself and it's like fucking fuck this it's fuck it so hard that's
no oh no is that he's walking in that or is he in his rascal scooter
because he's got that little space scooter dude i would love if there were two thanoses
and they're like them fat twins that were on the motorcycles that's the way you do that
they're both played by josh brolin by the way oh absolutely they both have sunglasses
and straw cowboy hats on and then the rest of it still just looks like things
So what did we think of this, this, they're a Marvel movie?
You know, and I said it, I believe on our BVS episode that like I couldn't get excited for
this movie. And like even in the theater, as it was starting, I realized I still wasn't
excited for it.
Sure. Same here. Yeah. Like the trailers and everything with, hmm. Yeah, I just was like totally,
I mean, at this point, I am at deep saturation levels with with superhero movies on both.
On the sides of the aisle.
Marvel and D.C.
That makes you an American, Andrew.
Pretty much.
Or a fucking citizen of the world, honestly.
But overall, I don't know.
I liked it enough.
I'm not, you know, whatever.
I wasn't like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, it was like, okay.
I was kind of closer to yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was really surprised how much I liked it.
Yeah.
I think I even liked it more than Winter Soldier.
I mean, I like the first Captain American movie the best,
but that's just me.
I got this red skull.
fetish. Well, yeah. When is he coming back? You know what? Everybody, probably never, it seems. I guess not. But didn't they set that up, though? Yeah, like, you don't see. Wasn't he the first they know who's bit? Yeah, well, he gets sucked into God knows where with the cube there. Yeah. And then what happens? Oh, does he go to like, uh, Asgard or whatever?
Two towns over. Oh, Razgard. Oh, you know, Shelbyville. Maybe like, we'll, we'll see in one of these future movies, a stinger scene of the Red Skull, like, in a,
an ice giant prison being given the purple nerple?
No, it would be awesome, dude.
They go to like some other world,
but it's just a parody of the end of goodfellas
and Red Skull comes out of his house in a bathroom
and picks up the newspaper and like waves to his neighbor.
I used to be kind of cool.
I used to be someone.
Yeah, exactly.
Now I just get served from egg noodles and ketchup.
The Red Skull loves pasta.
Oh, big time.
No, you know what it is.
Probably some Spetzel, if you want to get accurate here.
Yeah, yeah.
But in the 1990 Captain America, he was a fascist Italian.
He was.
That's right.
No, the end, actually, I have the, guys, I have a leak here for the end of.
Oh, shit.
Avengers.
He's a bathroom for that.
Yeah, Avengers Infinity War Part 2.
Excuse me?
It ends, right?
And this is the big Thanos movie.
Right.
It's setting up forever.
Yeah.
Thor.
Uppercuts.
thanos, right? Like a Mortal Kombat
style uppercut. And he knocks him through reality
like three levels over. Oh shit. Now he's
an interstellar. And then he's in
a waiting room from Beetlejuice.
And that's where the Red Skull is. It's a guy
with a newspaper and he puts it down. He's like,
what took you so long? Is it Red Skull
the little skull? Because
there's a head shrinker next to him or whatever? That would be
awesome. Dude, if this
I know we're supposed to be talking about the Civil War.
sure but if this infinity war part two ends with like a wink oh ray like we'll see you next time
like fucking eat a dog's ass well that's the problem when i mean like this is related when you
set up a movie and i was so glad that thanos is not in this movie and it's one of the reasons i really
liked it when you set up movie after movie after movie it's that you've got that big question
mark over the whole franchise like what's going to happen and the more you stretch that out the
less patience I have for it, the less
interest. Exactly. Because you know what?
Like, that surprise
or that reveal or whatever it is
can only be so cool.
Yep. You know? And like, at this
point, man, it better
be pretty darn cool. Thanos should have
been Avengers 2. It should have just been Avengers 2
Thanos' time. And then you can get
Ultron on the next one. Like, is there
like what, like, as far as comic hierarchy
goes, I mean, is there a bigger thing
than Thanos that they could have done? Yeah, he's like a
Cosmic, whatever.
Like, so he's kind of like a god.
But I mean, like, it just depends on the story.
Like, Ultron could be as cool as Thanos.
Could they have, has the, have the Avengers ever fought Galactus?
Uh, probably.
Could they have done, like, do Galactus right kind of a thing, maybe?
Well, they don't have the rights to Galactus.
Oh, is that right?
That's a Fox deal, man.
Oh.
Wrapped up in the FF franchise, is it?
So I liked this movie a lot.
Yeah, I actually, yeah.
I thought, I mean, like, I like, um, how much play everybody gets.
Like, they do have really good arcs for most of the characters.
Like, and introducing Black Panther, who's fucking awesome in this movie?
And it got me super stoked for him, but he has, like, a really good arc and he's kept within the movie.
And it's, like, really, like, cool.
It's weird that they were able to, they ditched two Avengers, but then also, like, worked in Black Panther, brought Ant Man in.
And they were still, it felt more fair and balanced than the Avengers movie.
it's an incredibly diverse movie for
any kind of a Hollywood movie
there's just African Americans that are just like
people do you know what I mean like well that's
an interesting turn of events for Hollywood
movie it is because like there's a scene where
you know a falcon and
Black Panther are in a car
and it's not about them being black guys
they're just like dudes and they have like
agendas within the movie
right and they also bring in
Spider-Man is another one that they add
which I was shocked
yes because man am I so
over the Spider-Man, you know,
I have no patience for it.
And I was, like, convinced.
I was, like, going into the theater
being, like, this fucking Spider-Man's bullshit.
Well, just so you know, the Spider-Man's bullshit.
My test of, like, you know,
my tolerance of Spider-Man is how much I can stand
when he's, like, web-slinging
and throwing out the one-liners.
Sure.
And the difference between this Spider-Man with whoever this English kid is.
Tom Holland?
He was, I believe, in the Billy Elliott Broadway musical.
Oh, wow.
Which I saw and was quite enjoyed by it.
Or I quite enjoyed.
But the Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire iterations, it's obnoxious.
All his one-liner zinging at everybody.
I was like, God damn it.
The difference I realized is that this character, this iteration of Spider-Man is like he's in awe of what he's watching.
He's like excited.
He's like, wow, that's Iron Man's dude.
That's so cool.
Because he's a kid.
He's not like a flashy day.
dickhead kid, though. Or a 40-year-old
man pretending to be a 16-year-old
boy. Also that, looking at you, Toby
McGuire. And Andrew Garfield's
older than... Was it really?
Oh, wow. Holy moly.
Well, I was really surprised that
I liked Spider-Man
in this. Yeah.
I liked this version of Aunt May.
I'll tell you that much. Marissa Tomey.
What a surprise.
And they didn't dig up goddamn Uncle
Ben. I will tell you this thing,
Marvel. Here's a free idea.
If you do a flashback for Uncle Ben, which nobody wants,
you get Jason Alexander to play fucking Jim.
Oh, fuck, yeah.
It's like a little nod to George.
The only way George Costanza could get Marissa Tomé is to be murdered as Uncle Ben.
Outside of a wrestling ring.
Is that or Ray Leota?
Oh, that would be pretty cool.
I could buy him as an Uncle Ben.
But he would like, like, his last moments would be like shit talking.
Yeah.
You know, like, previous Uncle Ben's have been like,
you don't want to do this, you're better than this, whatever.
He'd be like, fucking take your best shot, you piece of shit.
You know.
Peter, Peter, you were never good enough.
With great power, get me some coke.
With great power, keep stirring that sauce.
With great power, look at those helicopters.
They're fucking following me.
Speaking of helicopters and ruin and wreckage.
yeah I thought
like and in the trailers I thought it was going to be
obnoxious as fuck I thought this did a good job
of addressing the prior
collateral damage of all the other
movies yeah which is like
and I know we're going to get flack over
because we could flack over everything but
they're called paradevents before you continue
they are called paradevians I want you
I don't want you to fuck that up right
right those two guys in Highlander too are called
paradigms
but
the DC universe right
with Batman
versus Superman, like, it's like, it feels superficial in a way, like half-assery.
Yeah.
Like this, they actually really dig into it, and it's kind of the whole plot of the movie.
Like...
It lives in a world.
You know what I mean?
It's like, this exists.
This is the next logical step.
And Marvel movies are always guilty of doing way too fucking much.
But that is kind of a through line, and I love that we had this villain that was just a victim of
that. It was more gray. It wasn't just like
I'm a secret evil
doctor from the comic book. Yeah.
He's not a cartoon in a comic book
movie. I kind of just
wished there was more of this dude because
I agree. Yeah. Because yeah. He's great too.
That dude is an excellent actor
which is why I wanted more of him. But also
it just felt to me like
he's just kind of a hacker
with a grudge. And the grudge is
great. Like it's awesome that his
motivation is rooted in stuff
caused by the Avengers. Sure.
That's awesome.
Like, I just kind of wanted more of that.
And I didn't necessarily need him, like, reprogramming the Winter Soldier, which I really
want to get into this.
I think that in a movie called Captain America Civil War, the part that I was least interested
in is goddamn Captain America just refusing to make out with this fucking Bucky Barnes.
I don't give a shit about this story.
I don't either.
I lost interest in it.
And, like, yeah, they should be in a relationship.
I do love that he has, like, his hetero kiss in the middle of the movie.
And it's like, oh, wow, Captain America's going to get the girl.
It's like, he's got no eyes for this lady.
He's followed this guy over countries.
You know what I mean?
Over time.
It's that annoying thing where it's like, dude, this is the friend that you need to just give up on.
Yeah.
Like, I'm sorry.
I know you're like Captain America, Steve Rogers, the hero of what, like, just let this dude go.
This dude needs to have his head run over by him.
an airplane in this runway scene.
You know what I mean?
I know he's your stupid friend,
but like, you've lost a lot
of people already.
Sure.
We get an Agent Carter funeral scene.
Oh, yeah, R-I-P, Agent Carter.
That was weird.
And TV show, by the way.
Yeah, totally.
I will say this.
At the end of the movie,
it's revealed that the Winter Soldier
kills Tony Stark's parents
or killed Tony Stark's parents.
By the way, one thing,
if you put a fucking gun to my head
and you said one person
from the secret lives of dentists
is going to be in a Marvel movie
in the year 2016.
I don't would have been like, Campbell Scott?
And you would have blown my head off
because I never would have guessed Hope Davis was in this movie.
So she has not yet played Mrs. Stark in anything?
No, no.
They haven't even mentioned Mrs. Stark.
Dude, but that's, okay.
I figured they must have and I just didn't remember
because why on earth would you get Hope Davis for 19 seconds?
Sure, you know, it's a little something for the fans.
The Secret Lives of Dentist fans out there.
But where I was going with that, before I derailed myself with a bad joke, was if I found out that Eric killed your parents, Andrew, I'm staying out of it.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, my name's Paul and this shit's between you all.
Like, that's it.
Goodbye, everybody.
Yeah.
But I mean.
I will kill your parents.
But on one hand, like Steve Rogers does not say anything.
Yeah.
He does keep it quiet.
He follows your advice.
But no, but at the end, he teams up.
He's like, he's picking sides by picking Bucky, right?
Yeah, but it's got nothing to do with the death of the parents, though.
But no, it's just like, you can't hurt my friend.
But even like, if, again, you wanted to punch Eric's lights out because he killed, you know, punched your dad.
I'd be like, yeah, whatever, man.
But, I mean, would you let me murder him?
I guess the thing is, would you, would you tell Andrew if you knew that I could have been?
Oh, no, man.
That's going to the grave.
Oh, I'm not saying anything.
All right, then you're both Steve Rogers.
I like The Vision a lot in this movie
I like the Vision and Starlin
I was surprised because I hated the vision
in Ultron
Yeah I liked him in Ultron
I'm the last guy like Ultron enough
Yeah
I didn't like the first Avengers movie
Maybe I should go back to it
Yeah you're okay
I feel like what you feel about that movie
Is not going to change
Yeah
I do like that they
De-ethnicized Scarlet Witch by a lot
and gave Elizabeth also an accent she can do
which is like that's a course correction
like that's a great move
it sure was because she's doing
god damn Boris and Natasha
in that Ultron and just
I don't need that it's distracting
so like just give that and that's the
get the shitty accent out of the actor's mouth
and let the actor act and that's it totally
and it's fine because then what ultimately
will happen in these situations is what
happens in Civil War is that she's not worried
about doing a voice and trying to keep it
she can concentrate on giving a good performance
because she's a great actor and she's great in that movie and she turns out being really awesome in this movie which i liked i liked that they were like maybe fucking or like getting ready to do that yeah that's a that's a comics thing but um wait wait the vision but how that working though yeah i figured he was just like sexless yeah or like genitalia free steve you've read a comic book i have read a comic book so you say he's never read a batman or superman comic book marvel yeah according according to emails now according to kenny g
Kenny G himself
Give us the full breakdown
of a naked vision
You could start at head or toe
But I want a whole breakdown
You never see what's going
You never see that red pecker
It's probably shaved right
It's more of honestly
A burgundy pecker probably
You think it's got like a weird green point to it too
Oh maybe
Yeah there's another infinity stone down there
Even I found two at once
Is he uncircumcised
And it's an ascot
It's a foreskin ascot
Most likely.
But no, why would a thing that's made out of Tony Stark's butler computer have a penis?
But it's also got Thor magic in it, right?
Oh, that's the other thing that's dipped in there.
He's also got an infinity stone.
Yeah, he's got all sorts of...
Maybe it's like the infinity stone for erectile dysfunction.
Oh, yeah.
It makes you grow a dick.
Oh, man, the vision, Arnold Palmer and Kevin Neeland.
That's how the...
That's how those are about.
Zeralto commercials.
Those are something else.
That's an on screen for another day.
According to Kevin Neal and if you want to be successful at stand-up comedy, take some Zimbalta or whatever the fuck.
But I like division in this and I like that they kind of, I do think though the weird thing is like Black Panther has a full arc.
Scarlet Witch's arc kind of ends in that big scene and you don't know where it goes after that.
Which is a big airport scene you mean.
Yeah.
Like she stops, you know, she chooses sides and like division apologizes.
I do love that they go to that big jail
and it's like
this happens in the flash show too
like the idea of superhero jail
has never really thought out
it's like well you're in a room
for the rest of your life
and it's like well that's not how jail works
do we have like sentence terms
or I think it's like it's like a
black side it's like you're never
you know it's up to that it's like
I think superheroes would fall under
like a military tribunal
well that superhero jail
to be fair is a gigantic structure
that's able to lift itself out of the middle
of the ocean.
Sure. So, you know...
We're also living in a world
with the shield, hanger, carrier
things. Right.
You know, I was pretty happy
that we didn't have
DSX Sam Jackson in this movie.
Oh, right. I figured...
I didn't even think about Sam Jackson at all.
When the prison
rose up out of the water, I was like, oh, this
is where he's been hanging out.
Is he dead?
No, he's alive.
He does a fake Gary Oldman
death in the middle of the first...
So he's just not in the...
Not in these movies for a while.
Just taking a back.
Did, like, Shield dissolve?
I don't know what the fuck's going on.
Well, it turned out that, if I remember Winter Soldier
correctly and, you know, put the tweet down
because I don't care, I feel like the end of Winter Soldier is like,
it turned out 80% of Shield was actually Hydra.
That's really fucked up, yeah.
I mean, that fucking HR department really just let a lot fall through the cracks.
But yeah, so it's like, shield is like dissolved
and he's kind of in hiding or whatever.
Yeah, and then whatever's been happening on the show for the last
two years. I've never seen it. Oh, see, and that's, you know, that show's supposed to be, you know,
really cool, whatever. I stopped watching it, but like, is that still in the air? It is. Oh,
big time. They almost had, like, a spin-off that didn't get picked up. Like, it's going places,
but, like, it's now kind of becoming the, uh, the cinematic universe is equivalent of, like,
supplemental shit from the animatrix. You know what I mean? Like, I don't need to be paying
attention to ABC programming in prime time to get these movies. Like, I don't, like, I don't,
want that to happen. You know what I mean?
I hope it means Pat and Oswald gets to be
in these fucking Infinity War movies or something.
That would be cool. That would be cool. So I
think we should talk about the big airport
fight because that's the
centerpiece of the film. Right. And I
man, watching those trailers, I was like,
this is stupid because I hate when
superheroes fight each other because it's
it doesn't go anywhere and nothing ever happens
and then they make up, which is
sort of what happens here. But I'm glad
that it's orchestrated by an outside
force. And yeah. I
I enjoyed it.
I liked the Ant Man in this sequence.
Paul Rudd's awesome in this movie.
I like the Giant Man revealed.
That was a big nerd.
I was like, oh, fuck, he's Giant Man now too.
And listen, as a not nerd, that was a giant.
Oh, great.
Something difference happening.
I really enjoyed it.
Yeah, I didn't know that Ant Man could do that either.
I was like, oh, that's really cool.
And he's like, he is just the right comic sensibility for what these movies need.
Because the only other places you're kind of getting it is like R.D.J.
which have their place and are great
and then like, you know, Hulk
comically punch and Thor and whatever
else. I think Anthony Mackey's pretty funny in these movies.
He's great in these movies. I do love the bird
costume joke where
like we take his bird costume.
Oh, come on, man. He's so
awesome. I think he as a dude
who's like, of the Avengers
that are just people that can do
neat tricks. Yeah. He's
the best of those. You know what I mean?
Like there's no reason for Jeremy Renner to be
in this movie. I was about to say, I don't know what. And
Who's clamor in for Hawkeye, man?
I fucking hate Jeremy Renner, everybody.
You know what?
I'll just come out and say it.
I don't think he's good in these movies.
I don't think, I don't know what he's trying to do.
I don't know what he is doing.
He always seems fairly disengaged.
Because, well, here's the problem is that he feels like that almost all the time.
Sure.
And the Hawkeye character is supposed to be like, the whole gag of him is like, I don't fit in because I'm not a monster, hero, whatever.
Sure.
when you have that coupled with a dude
whose on-screen persona is
I don't give a fuck in the first place
I'm like well why do I give a fuck
that you're in this movie
at the end he's just in jail forever
and he's like I guess I shouldn't have come out of retirement
to be arrested
yeah I'm like hey dude not for nothing newsflash
you're married to Linda Cardalini
go enjoy that life on the farm
but the captain of America
breaks them all out at the end
it's true his heart grows two sizes bigger
I don't know
I thought it was cool
I do like the fight is very cool
it's well choreographed it's fun
it's your eight here's the thing
and I was worried about this from the trailers too
it's watchable
you can you understand
everything that's happening
again I rewatched Ultron before I went to see this
that opening fight
of like the Avengers just doing stuff
and then terrible
and then the end fight
you can't tell what's happening
It's edited so poorly.
The cuts are so rapid.
You have no idea where everybody is.
I think the other thing that's really smart about it is it's just on this airport runway.
So, like, you can see everything.
And you know what, D.C., the sun's out, and you get to see everybody's faces.
And all the costumes are pretty bright.
That's a lot of fun to look at.
Totally.
I really loved one of the coolest things I thought in this fight was Ant Man going into Iron Man's suit
and fucking with stuff.
Oh, yeah.
And it was like, oh, well, how's he gonna get out of this one?
And then it's like the anti-fire thing
and he like flushes him out.
Like, it just, it worked.
They smartly paired up people
that should fight each other
at the right times kind of a thing.
And it wasn't just,
we're bashing everybody's brains in it.
Yeah, it's not button mashing
from like a bad video game.
Like, there's actual like choreography there.
I love the Empire Strikes Back gang.
I was just going to say, that's so funny.
I saw this old movie
called the Empire Strikes Back.
That was just nice.
It's a fun little thing.
I will say it's the weirdest part of the movie
is the fake RDJ as a young teenager.
That gave me skin chills, everybody.
At least it was like, I thought it was going to be a flashback
and I was like, what's it going on?
But thank God it's just one of his stupid inventions
because then it can look terrible
because it's a dumb invention.
Here's the thing.
I didn't think it looked that terrible.
It's a nice, like, less than zero era R.D.J.
I was kind of fine with it
and honestly
what Tony Stark is using it for
and the fact that he like admitted it publicly
like I don't know
I was like this is like
it's got some emotional weight to it
these movies a lot of the time
don't have for me
like I feel like they're very hollow with that stuff
and that I was kind of like oh
you know and then like when all
that stuff comes back around like I really
thought this movie showcased
better than any of his solo
movies better than the Avengers appearances.
It's the best performance
of Robert Downey Jr. in these movies, I thought.
Probably, yeah. I really think he did
the best. They give him the most
to work with in that way. So do you think in the
next movie, we're going to see what happens
with all these students-funded
projects?
I would hope so. Is that the stinger?
Am I watching this right?
You're just going, it's
a stinger scene of like, you know, people
at a science fair or like an
IBM job interview.
man what are all these people going to do
and I do say I only keep
bringing up bad stuff but I will say
I got a problem with the stingers
when it's the
logical conclusion of the plot is
part of a stinger right that's not okay
and I think that happens in another one of these movies too
that I can't remember but like
it's the Roger Ebert rule your movie ends when the credits roll
yeah don't continue the story
if you want Danos farting around you want to do
you want to showcase a character or have like a
one-off gag like the
Peter Parker gag they have at the end of this it's fine
but it should be the winter soldier being like I have to go my planet needs me
that's the end of the movie that's like the whole movie's about what's the winter soldier
going to do yeah give me that rap-up of him getting frozen in Africa and Black Panther's
going to like oversee it yeah because that's honestly what an awesome black outline for the
movie of Black Panther being like let them try or whatever it is oh yeah and you look out
and you see oh man great shot they just pan out to everything boom cut to black like
directed by the Russo brothers.
Fucking badass, dude.
That's, yeah, that's stupid that that's a fucking stinger.
I'm excited for that movie.
Oh, man.
Is Coogler definitely directing him?
He's 100% directing it.
He announced Michael B. Jordan as something.
Like, he's just, he's in it in some way shape or form.
Is the, are we going to have to deal with this Andy Circus villain?
Probably.
That's what's he crossbones?
Is that what it's called?
No, Claw?
Frank Grillo was crossbones.
Oh, he's the dude that gets killed in this movie.
Yeah, he comes off the purge anarchy and starts beating up Captain America.
Is that worth watching?
I never saw it, actually.
I want to because I think that the purge election year looks fucking stupid, like a real fun fucking stupid.
Yeah, I kind of want to see it.
So I want to catch up with the franchise?
Oh my God, we got to, guys, we got to watch the purge.
We got to watch all that perjers.
I saw that first one, and that movie is awkward and not good.
I saw that too.
That movie is just awkwardly, a rich white couple ties a black gentleman to a chair and beats the
shit out of him until they then open
a door and let a gang of other rich white
people murder him. I don't understand
how there are elections
in the purge. And the idea
is like this woman's like against the purge and everyone's
like, nah, fuck that lady. It's like, no.
Are you kidding? I mean, she said that lady's
got as much of a chance to be elected as Jill
Stein. Well,
the real bleeding heart liberal.
She's this green party kid. Well, the thing is like,
okay, come on. Think about the world
post-Trump's legacy.
after being president for a long time.
Right.
Four terms until he dies of a massive steak-related heart attack.
I don't know. He might be in there forever, yeah.
Yeah.
Like Fidel Castro.
Exactly.
Turn him into a robot.
Yeah.
All right, let's get this on the table.
Is Fidel Castro secretly dead and has been for years?
And we've got like Saddam.
What did this?
What show my husband?
Saddam dupes.
Sorry to get all blame.
on outer space on you guys.
I apologize, Marvel movie fans.
So it's just like, why aren't they talking
about the Black Widow?
Listen, I think Fidel Castro
may be
might be dead, but I think
it would be a recent event.
I'm not, I don't know if they're...
Like a 10 years thing.
Here's, I'll tie it back in.
It's something that Captain America
could get to the bottom of.
That would be great.
Before he allows tourism,
before he allows American
people to visit.
He has to murder.
Or find out
the truth about Castro.
He's a Muppet.
Not a lot of Scarlett
Johansson in this movie.
No.
That's okay, by me.
They're giving it more to
Elizabeth Olson.
I mean,
heaven forbid
there's two women
with agency in this film.
But again, like,
I don't know.
Scarlet Witch is a cooler character.
She has a power.
She has a power.
It's fine.
Because Scarlet Johansson,
I mean,
she's kind of Hawkeye,
the lady.
Yes. I mean, she's better than Hawkeye.
Well, of course.
Yeah.
I'm interested in that movie that they, I think they announced it or they're going to announce it.
If they do it, it would be cool.
I mean, because the problem is, it's just, I mean, it's the same with all the other powerless characters.
They're sitting around when Thanos is turning like squirrels into gold and it's like, wait, what?
Fuck, is that his end game?
Dude, that's how you win the Infinity Wars.
By the way, Freakazoid fans, that's a freakazoid joke.
Oh.
Wait, is someone going to turn his Infinity Gauntlet back?
into squirrels.
It's got to put
to a gaggle of squirrels.
Yeah, like, she just
she gets sidelined in this movie.
She kind of has a nice, like,
she then, you know, she's supposed to be
like against Captain America
and then she lets those guys go, I guess.
But I was like, come on, man,
you're just instigating this bucky nonsense.
Now you're pro bucky.
Like, come on, man.
I don't like...
Passing the buck.
I'm just not a fan.
Like, I want...
in America to have a better reason to do the stuff that he does, but other than my buddy.
You know what I mean?
My buddy.
Well, I know that this Civil War does not really at all go along with the comic line, but like the comic story of Civil War.
Right.
That's Abe Lincoln.
Oh, right, right, right, right.
The Abe Lincoln comics.
Well, we had to mention it.
Those were some hot Marvel sellers.
They actually had Civil War comic line Marvel.
They did, yeah.
Oh, really?
Oh, that's cool.
That actually, you know, featured Man in Blank.
blue uniforms, men in gray uniforms.
You know, and they had an airplane hangar
fight of their own.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Like, if they gave Scarlet Witch more to do in this movie,
but again, just like...
Yeah, Black Widow.
Oh, Black Widow, excuse me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know. Give her the own
solo movie, you get two hours of Black Widow.
I'm like killing people in Russia and doing...
That's cool. But here's the thing about that, though.
You need to make that...
An R-rated movie? Like a born movie.
Yeah. Like an R-rated...
Scarlet is just kicking ass in that.
movie like I could because here's what's like it's a born movie so you would have Jeremy
renter in the last one and then cut him out of the new one because nobody wanted to watch
that's another movie he's sleeping through that's what they're like oh let's go back to the one
that worked he could have had his own franchise there but instead he took a two hour and 40
minute nap in a cabin somewhere that eventually blew up for some reason I don't really
remember that movie so I think is like his height is hurt locker yes yeah oh yeah
and that's and that's that yeah but the thing with the thing with black widow is like yeah
make this like hardcore you know because I don't want the start of is it the first Avengers
movie where she's like joking around with these Russian terrorists or whatever is that
the first start of that one yeah I just because I don't I'm tired of like tongue and cheek stuff
in every movie I like when it's like we have different tones for these different Marvel movies
and that's a perfect one that you could do it with I like that uh the flashback scene in Ultron
that weird thing with
where they show
like her graduation
she's shooting people
in the right
oh right
because you got
what's her face there
before sunrise
what is her name
that's killing
Julie Delpie yeah
in like such a small role
and I was like
oh that's kind of
maybe set
there must be a weird thing
where like they must have
gotten her
like some on some weird
on some weird
like almost Richard Linkletter
S contract
like in the next nine years
we're going to call you
for a Marvel movie
and she's like
whatever new house
I'll believe that when it happens
I mean because that would be awesome right
Like have a movie where like
Black Widow's going around kicking ass
And it turns out like Julie Delpy's the villain
And it's like oh a relic from my past
Blah blah blah but she's like
Breaking Necks and throwing dudes out windows and shit
And then Lady Thanos shows up
Lady Infinity Stone
Yeah that's what that's cool
Played by Roseanne Barr
I feel like she could voice it
Exactly
Phanos is playing
poker with her family.
That's just like
Thanos to take all the chips.
Exactly.
I think that's it.
I think we covered all the bases.
I think that's enough.
I really liked that there's no magic
in this movie.
You know what I mean?
If Thor was farting around here,
it's just a little too much.
The vision is kind of magic.
Yeah.
And Scarlet Witch, too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I get, but yeah, she's like an enhanced human.
I mean, she is usually magic, but in the movie, she's an enhanced human.
Yeah, the thing is, I don't know what's going on.
Well, we can't use the M word on this side of the Marvel Isle.
No, that's, is the problem.
We use Inhuman, which is a franchise that never happened.
Oh, yikes, they canceled that movie.
They shelved it.
Yeah, okay.
They shelved it.
Shelved it all the way to the garbage.
Yeah, I really dug it.
I think that I really like the vision.
I could almost go for a vision movie.
Oh, I don't know about that.
Let's not get nuts.
Has the vision had like his own line at all?
He's got a pretty good comic book series out right now.
Oh, that's cool.
On shelves now.
I mean, because I like Paul Bettney.
Paul Bettney's a dude that constantly makes terrible movies.
Yeah, it's, but even as like the voice of the computer in these Iron Man movies,
I was like, this is the greatest work you've done in ages.
And he's doing it, you know, he's doing, he's doing all this.
wearing that cool outfit for half the movie.
I really enjoyed that
sweater over that button down.
Oh, he's looking pretty sharp as
like Professor Vision.
You know, I agree with you.
And it kind of harkens back to Batman
and that duster. You know, put some coats on these
people, but let's get some slacks.
Exactly. On the Iron Man.
Some clothes over these costumes.
I think it'll work out.
Oh, last thing I loved
is tying in
our good friend
Brent Reynolds
No, well close
He needs to be in a Marvel movie
Oh, who would he play?
He could play somebody
Stanley's lackey nephew
Kurt Lee
You know, it's sort of like Tommy Lee Jones
played a military guy
In Captain America
He could play some aged out colonel
That's right
Speaking of age out colonels
That's what I was going to say
William Hurt in this movie
I'm glad that they tied
That first
Incredible Hulk movie back in.
That was nice.
Oh, wow. I didn't even know.
You didn't even realize that.
Thunderbolt Ross.
Yeah.
That's great.
I dug that.
And I liked his character.
And they kind of like turn him into a jokey villain.
But he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
You've killed thousands of people.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shut up.
But seriously, seriously, seriously.
Like, there's a whole country dead.
And like, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Mothers are without children.
Children are not mothers.
This is a bag.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shut up.
And he's a great actor to
ground that stuff too. So I was like, I was
happy to see that. There is that great scene
where he's just showing like, Sokobia, New York.
And Captain America has this great like,
I'm trying to eat lunch here.
Stop making me remember all of our
fucking massacres that we've been
a part of. Yep.
Ah, well, that is WHM
on screen for Captain America
colon civil war.
What's another big release one of
that we could promise this summer.
There's a couple things coming in.
Someone was, I keep,
someone's like asking you know,
oh, you can do one screens on this,
that, and the other thing.
It's always like a matter of time.
We'll do at least two.
I'm going to see that X-Men movie.
I will say this.
Independence Day 2.
Oh, that might be one to do.
I have seen X-Men apocalypse.
Oh.
And I liked it.
I feel like I'm going to spend the summer
eating shit for this.
But I liked it.
I'm ready to like it.
I was,
in the mood to just see a fun
action movie
and that be it and I got
it when I saw it so I don't know I'm putting
it out on the air I liked X-Men of Pocket
Can I ask you how big Stan Lee's house is
or like what are we talking here?
Oh my God you could tell us his cameo
Oh
Welcome to my house mighty Mavalites
You got a golden ticket
It's
Not you Jack Kirby
You dirty piece of dog shit get out
I'm hiding
one golden ticket
in the Marvel comic books
you gotta buy them all
gotta buy them all Marvelites
sorry Augustus Gloop
you're the blob now
Stan Lee and his wife
cameo in the movie
oh wow
keep your eyes peeled for Mrs. Lee as well
their cameo credits by the way
as themselves
it's not Stan Lee playing a fucking
Baxter building mailman
yeah he's just like
oh
Did you see all this, Martha?
We should make a comic book out of it.
Very wisely, he keeps his fucking mouth shut.
Oh, no, is it like Ben Gazera having sex and happiness?
Is that what happened?
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
I knew it.
I knew it's going to happen eventually.
So until next time, I'm Andrew Juven.
Stephen Siddharic.
Take it easy, Mighty Mama Nights.
Thank you.
Thank you.