We Hate Movies - S6: WHM On-Screen: Captain America: Civil War

Episode Date: May 20, 2016

On this episode of WHM On-Screen the guys finally get around to sharing their thoughts about the latest entry into the MCU, Captain America: Civil War! Topics discussed include the fact that the film ...is just, "The Avengers without all that Thor magic," Black Panther is a bad-ass, awesome character, it was a good move letting Elizabeth Olsen tone down that accent, what it would sound like if Ray Liotta wound up playing Uncle Ben, and of course, whether or not Vision has some sort of genitalia! Captain America: Civil War stars Chris Evans, Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Mackie, Don Cheadle, Jeremy Renner, Chadwick Boseman, Paul Bettany, Elizabeth Olsen, Paul Rudd, Emily VanCamp, Tom Holland, Daniel Brül, William Hurt, Marisa Tomei, and Frank Grillo; directed by Joe & Anthony Russo.Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to W.H.M. On the screen, everybody. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Stephen Sadek and Eric Siska. We're here. Howdy, partners? Yes, howdy all around? Howdy, Quaid? Give these people air Cohegan We are here To as promise
Starting point is 00:00:37 Talk about The Marvel Studios film Captain America Colan Civil War Or as I've been calling it The Avengers Minus all the magic No one cares about
Starting point is 00:00:49 And the magic is Thor Thor and some You know Hulke mutations Infinity Stones Gondlets It's a street level Avengers movie
Starting point is 00:00:59 Exactly right You're going to dig into the movie. So if you haven't seen it, press pause, go to the theater and come back and press play. Exactly right. Because I'm going to say, there's no, yeah, there's no Thanos at the end of the movie. I thought that fucking gauntlet for sure was. Oh, I was ready for Grimmis's skin cancer afflicted grandfather to appear on screen. I was excited.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I was like, what's Thanos going to wear this time? Man, because I'll tell you what, I rewatched Ultron. And it ends with him literally doing. the old like fine i'll do it myself and it's like fucking fuck this it's fuck it so hard that's no oh no is that he's walking in that or is he in his rascal scooter because he's got that little space scooter dude i would love if there were two thanoses and they're like them fat twins that were on the motorcycles that's the way you do that they're both played by josh brolin by the way oh absolutely they both have sunglasses
Starting point is 00:01:56 and straw cowboy hats on and then the rest of it still just looks like things So what did we think of this, this, they're a Marvel movie? You know, and I said it, I believe on our BVS episode that like I couldn't get excited for this movie. And like even in the theater, as it was starting, I realized I still wasn't excited for it. Sure. Same here. Yeah. Like the trailers and everything with, hmm. Yeah, I just was like totally, I mean, at this point, I am at deep saturation levels with with superhero movies on both. On the sides of the aisle.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Marvel and D.C. That makes you an American, Andrew. Pretty much. Or a fucking citizen of the world, honestly. But overall, I don't know. I liked it enough. I'm not, you know, whatever. I wasn't like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:44 You know, it was like, okay. I was kind of closer to yeah, yeah, yeah. I was really surprised how much I liked it. Yeah. I think I even liked it more than Winter Soldier. I mean, I like the first Captain American movie the best, but that's just me. I got this red skull.
Starting point is 00:03:00 fetish. Well, yeah. When is he coming back? You know what? Everybody, probably never, it seems. I guess not. But didn't they set that up, though? Yeah, like, you don't see. Wasn't he the first they know who's bit? Yeah, well, he gets sucked into God knows where with the cube there. Yeah. And then what happens? Oh, does he go to like, uh, Asgard or whatever? Two towns over. Oh, Razgard. Oh, you know, Shelbyville. Maybe like, we'll, we'll see in one of these future movies, a stinger scene of the Red Skull, like, in a, an ice giant prison being given the purple nerple? No, it would be awesome, dude. They go to like some other world, but it's just a parody of the end of goodfellas and Red Skull comes out of his house in a bathroom and picks up the newspaper and like waves to his neighbor.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I used to be kind of cool. I used to be someone. Yeah, exactly. Now I just get served from egg noodles and ketchup. The Red Skull loves pasta. Oh, big time. No, you know what it is. Probably some Spetzel, if you want to get accurate here.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah, yeah. But in the 1990 Captain America, he was a fascist Italian. He was. That's right. No, the end, actually, I have the, guys, I have a leak here for the end of. Oh, shit. Avengers. He's a bathroom for that.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah, Avengers Infinity War Part 2. Excuse me? It ends, right? And this is the big Thanos movie. Right. It's setting up forever. Yeah. Thor.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Uppercuts. thanos, right? Like a Mortal Kombat style uppercut. And he knocks him through reality like three levels over. Oh shit. Now he's an interstellar. And then he's in a waiting room from Beetlejuice. And that's where the Red Skull is. It's a guy with a newspaper and he puts it down. He's like,
Starting point is 00:04:45 what took you so long? Is it Red Skull the little skull? Because there's a head shrinker next to him or whatever? That would be awesome. Dude, if this I know we're supposed to be talking about the Civil War. sure but if this infinity war part two ends with like a wink oh ray like we'll see you next time like fucking eat a dog's ass well that's the problem when i mean like this is related when you set up a movie and i was so glad that thanos is not in this movie and it's one of the reasons i really
Starting point is 00:05:15 liked it when you set up movie after movie after movie it's that you've got that big question mark over the whole franchise like what's going to happen and the more you stretch that out the less patience I have for it, the less interest. Exactly. Because you know what? Like, that surprise or that reveal or whatever it is can only be so cool. Yep. You know? And like, at this
Starting point is 00:05:39 point, man, it better be pretty darn cool. Thanos should have been Avengers 2. It should have just been Avengers 2 Thanos' time. And then you can get Ultron on the next one. Like, is there like what, like, as far as comic hierarchy goes, I mean, is there a bigger thing than Thanos that they could have done? Yeah, he's like a
Starting point is 00:05:57 Cosmic, whatever. Like, so he's kind of like a god. But I mean, like, it just depends on the story. Like, Ultron could be as cool as Thanos. Could they have, has the, have the Avengers ever fought Galactus? Uh, probably. Could they have done, like, do Galactus right kind of a thing, maybe? Well, they don't have the rights to Galactus.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Oh, is that right? That's a Fox deal, man. Oh. Wrapped up in the FF franchise, is it? So I liked this movie a lot. Yeah, I actually, yeah. I thought, I mean, like, I like, um, how much play everybody gets. Like, they do have really good arcs for most of the characters.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Like, and introducing Black Panther, who's fucking awesome in this movie? And it got me super stoked for him, but he has, like, a really good arc and he's kept within the movie. And it's, like, really, like, cool. It's weird that they were able to, they ditched two Avengers, but then also, like, worked in Black Panther, brought Ant Man in. And they were still, it felt more fair and balanced than the Avengers movie. it's an incredibly diverse movie for any kind of a Hollywood movie there's just African Americans that are just like
Starting point is 00:07:02 people do you know what I mean like well that's an interesting turn of events for Hollywood movie it is because like there's a scene where you know a falcon and Black Panther are in a car and it's not about them being black guys they're just like dudes and they have like agendas within the movie
Starting point is 00:07:17 right and they also bring in Spider-Man is another one that they add which I was shocked yes because man am I so over the Spider-Man, you know, I have no patience for it. And I was, like, convinced. I was, like, going into the theater
Starting point is 00:07:31 being, like, this fucking Spider-Man's bullshit. Well, just so you know, the Spider-Man's bullshit. My test of, like, you know, my tolerance of Spider-Man is how much I can stand when he's, like, web-slinging and throwing out the one-liners. Sure. And the difference between this Spider-Man with whoever this English kid is.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Tom Holland? He was, I believe, in the Billy Elliott Broadway musical. Oh, wow. Which I saw and was quite enjoyed by it. Or I quite enjoyed. But the Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire iterations, it's obnoxious. All his one-liner zinging at everybody. I was like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 The difference I realized is that this character, this iteration of Spider-Man is like he's in awe of what he's watching. He's like excited. He's like, wow, that's Iron Man's dude. That's so cool. Because he's a kid. He's not like a flashy day. dickhead kid, though. Or a 40-year-old man pretending to be a 16-year-old
Starting point is 00:08:29 boy. Also that, looking at you, Toby McGuire. And Andrew Garfield's older than... Was it really? Oh, wow. Holy moly. Well, I was really surprised that I liked Spider-Man in this. Yeah. I liked this version of Aunt May.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'll tell you that much. Marissa Tomey. What a surprise. And they didn't dig up goddamn Uncle Ben. I will tell you this thing, Marvel. Here's a free idea. If you do a flashback for Uncle Ben, which nobody wants, you get Jason Alexander to play fucking Jim. Oh, fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's like a little nod to George. The only way George Costanza could get Marissa Tomé is to be murdered as Uncle Ben. Outside of a wrestling ring. Is that or Ray Leota? Oh, that would be pretty cool. I could buy him as an Uncle Ben. But he would like, like, his last moments would be like shit talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You know, like, previous Uncle Ben's have been like, you don't want to do this, you're better than this, whatever. He'd be like, fucking take your best shot, you piece of shit. You know. Peter, Peter, you were never good enough. With great power, get me some coke. With great power, keep stirring that sauce. With great power, look at those helicopters.
Starting point is 00:09:48 They're fucking following me. Speaking of helicopters and ruin and wreckage. yeah I thought like and in the trailers I thought it was going to be obnoxious as fuck I thought this did a good job of addressing the prior collateral damage of all the other movies yeah which is like
Starting point is 00:10:06 and I know we're going to get flack over because we could flack over everything but they're called paradevents before you continue they are called paradevians I want you I don't want you to fuck that up right right those two guys in Highlander too are called paradigms but
Starting point is 00:10:20 the DC universe right with Batman versus Superman, like, it's like, it feels superficial in a way, like half-assery. Yeah. Like this, they actually really dig into it, and it's kind of the whole plot of the movie. Like... It lives in a world. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:40 It's like, this exists. This is the next logical step. And Marvel movies are always guilty of doing way too fucking much. But that is kind of a through line, and I love that we had this villain that was just a victim of that. It was more gray. It wasn't just like I'm a secret evil doctor from the comic book. Yeah. He's not a cartoon in a comic book
Starting point is 00:11:02 movie. I kind of just wished there was more of this dude because I agree. Yeah. Because yeah. He's great too. That dude is an excellent actor which is why I wanted more of him. But also it just felt to me like he's just kind of a hacker with a grudge. And the grudge is
Starting point is 00:11:18 great. Like it's awesome that his motivation is rooted in stuff caused by the Avengers. Sure. That's awesome. Like, I just kind of wanted more of that. And I didn't necessarily need him, like, reprogramming the Winter Soldier, which I really want to get into this. I think that in a movie called Captain America Civil War, the part that I was least interested
Starting point is 00:11:40 in is goddamn Captain America just refusing to make out with this fucking Bucky Barnes. I don't give a shit about this story. I don't either. I lost interest in it. And, like, yeah, they should be in a relationship. I do love that he has, like, his hetero kiss in the middle of the movie. And it's like, oh, wow, Captain America's going to get the girl. It's like, he's got no eyes for this lady.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's followed this guy over countries. You know what I mean? Over time. It's that annoying thing where it's like, dude, this is the friend that you need to just give up on. Yeah. Like, I'm sorry. I know you're like Captain America, Steve Rogers, the hero of what, like, just let this dude go. This dude needs to have his head run over by him.
Starting point is 00:12:24 an airplane in this runway scene. You know what I mean? I know he's your stupid friend, but like, you've lost a lot of people already. Sure. We get an Agent Carter funeral scene. Oh, yeah, R-I-P, Agent Carter.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That was weird. And TV show, by the way. Yeah, totally. I will say this. At the end of the movie, it's revealed that the Winter Soldier kills Tony Stark's parents or killed Tony Stark's parents.
Starting point is 00:12:45 By the way, one thing, if you put a fucking gun to my head and you said one person from the secret lives of dentists is going to be in a Marvel movie in the year 2016. I don't would have been like, Campbell Scott? And you would have blown my head off
Starting point is 00:13:00 because I never would have guessed Hope Davis was in this movie. So she has not yet played Mrs. Stark in anything? No, no. They haven't even mentioned Mrs. Stark. Dude, but that's, okay. I figured they must have and I just didn't remember because why on earth would you get Hope Davis for 19 seconds? Sure, you know, it's a little something for the fans.
Starting point is 00:13:21 The Secret Lives of Dentist fans out there. But where I was going with that, before I derailed myself with a bad joke, was if I found out that Eric killed your parents, Andrew, I'm staying out of it. You know what I mean? It's just like, my name's Paul and this shit's between you all. Like, that's it. Goodbye, everybody. Yeah. But I mean.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I will kill your parents. But on one hand, like Steve Rogers does not say anything. Yeah. He does keep it quiet. He follows your advice. But no, but at the end, he teams up. He's like, he's picking sides by picking Bucky, right? Yeah, but it's got nothing to do with the death of the parents, though.
Starting point is 00:14:02 But no, it's just like, you can't hurt my friend. But even like, if, again, you wanted to punch Eric's lights out because he killed, you know, punched your dad. I'd be like, yeah, whatever, man. But, I mean, would you let me murder him? I guess the thing is, would you, would you tell Andrew if you knew that I could have been? Oh, no, man. That's going to the grave. Oh, I'm not saying anything.
Starting point is 00:14:19 All right, then you're both Steve Rogers. I like The Vision a lot in this movie I like the Vision and Starlin I was surprised because I hated the vision in Ultron Yeah I liked him in Ultron I'm the last guy like Ultron enough Yeah
Starting point is 00:14:36 I didn't like the first Avengers movie Maybe I should go back to it Yeah you're okay I feel like what you feel about that movie Is not going to change Yeah I do like that they De-ethnicized Scarlet Witch by a lot
Starting point is 00:14:51 and gave Elizabeth also an accent she can do which is like that's a course correction like that's a great move it sure was because she's doing god damn Boris and Natasha in that Ultron and just I don't need that it's distracting so like just give that and that's the
Starting point is 00:15:07 get the shitty accent out of the actor's mouth and let the actor act and that's it totally and it's fine because then what ultimately will happen in these situations is what happens in Civil War is that she's not worried about doing a voice and trying to keep it she can concentrate on giving a good performance because she's a great actor and she's great in that movie and she turns out being really awesome in this movie which i liked i liked that they were like maybe fucking or like getting ready to do that yeah that's a that's a comics thing but um wait wait the vision but how that working though yeah i figured he was just like sexless yeah or like genitalia free steve you've read a comic book i have read a comic book so you say he's never read a batman or superman comic book marvel yeah according according to emails now according to kenny g
Starting point is 00:15:51 Kenny G himself Give us the full breakdown of a naked vision You could start at head or toe But I want a whole breakdown You never see what's going You never see that red pecker It's probably shaved right
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's more of honestly A burgundy pecker probably You think it's got like a weird green point to it too Oh maybe Yeah there's another infinity stone down there Even I found two at once Is he uncircumcised And it's an ascot
Starting point is 00:16:18 It's a foreskin ascot Most likely. But no, why would a thing that's made out of Tony Stark's butler computer have a penis? But it's also got Thor magic in it, right? Oh, that's the other thing that's dipped in there. He's also got an infinity stone. Yeah, he's got all sorts of... Maybe it's like the infinity stone for erectile dysfunction.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Oh, yeah. It makes you grow a dick. Oh, man, the vision, Arnold Palmer and Kevin Neeland. That's how the... That's how those are about. Zeralto commercials. Those are something else. That's an on screen for another day.
Starting point is 00:16:57 According to Kevin Neal and if you want to be successful at stand-up comedy, take some Zimbalta or whatever the fuck. But I like division in this and I like that they kind of, I do think though the weird thing is like Black Panther has a full arc. Scarlet Witch's arc kind of ends in that big scene and you don't know where it goes after that. Which is a big airport scene you mean. Yeah. Like she stops, you know, she chooses sides and like division apologizes. I do love that they go to that big jail and it's like
Starting point is 00:17:23 this happens in the flash show too like the idea of superhero jail has never really thought out it's like well you're in a room for the rest of your life and it's like well that's not how jail works do we have like sentence terms or I think it's like it's like a
Starting point is 00:17:38 black side it's like you're never you know it's up to that it's like I think superheroes would fall under like a military tribunal well that superhero jail to be fair is a gigantic structure that's able to lift itself out of the middle of the ocean.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Sure. So, you know... We're also living in a world with the shield, hanger, carrier things. Right. You know, I was pretty happy that we didn't have DSX Sam Jackson in this movie. Oh, right. I figured...
Starting point is 00:18:04 I didn't even think about Sam Jackson at all. When the prison rose up out of the water, I was like, oh, this is where he's been hanging out. Is he dead? No, he's alive. He does a fake Gary Oldman death in the middle of the first...
Starting point is 00:18:18 So he's just not in the... Not in these movies for a while. Just taking a back. Did, like, Shield dissolve? I don't know what the fuck's going on. Well, it turned out that, if I remember Winter Soldier correctly and, you know, put the tweet down because I don't care, I feel like the end of Winter Soldier is like,
Starting point is 00:18:33 it turned out 80% of Shield was actually Hydra. That's really fucked up, yeah. I mean, that fucking HR department really just let a lot fall through the cracks. But yeah, so it's like, shield is like dissolved and he's kind of in hiding or whatever. Yeah, and then whatever's been happening on the show for the last two years. I've never seen it. Oh, see, and that's, you know, that show's supposed to be, you know, really cool, whatever. I stopped watching it, but like, is that still in the air? It is. Oh,
Starting point is 00:18:59 big time. They almost had, like, a spin-off that didn't get picked up. Like, it's going places, but, like, it's now kind of becoming the, uh, the cinematic universe is equivalent of, like, supplemental shit from the animatrix. You know what I mean? Like, I don't need to be paying attention to ABC programming in prime time to get these movies. Like, I don't, like, I don't, want that to happen. You know what I mean? I hope it means Pat and Oswald gets to be in these fucking Infinity War movies or something. That would be cool. That would be cool. So I
Starting point is 00:19:27 think we should talk about the big airport fight because that's the centerpiece of the film. Right. And I man, watching those trailers, I was like, this is stupid because I hate when superheroes fight each other because it's it doesn't go anywhere and nothing ever happens and then they make up, which is
Starting point is 00:19:43 sort of what happens here. But I'm glad that it's orchestrated by an outside force. And yeah. I I enjoyed it. I liked the Ant Man in this sequence. Paul Rudd's awesome in this movie. I like the Giant Man revealed. That was a big nerd.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I was like, oh, fuck, he's Giant Man now too. And listen, as a not nerd, that was a giant. Oh, great. Something difference happening. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I didn't know that Ant Man could do that either. I was like, oh, that's really cool. And he's like, he is just the right comic sensibility for what these movies need.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Because the only other places you're kind of getting it is like R.D.J. which have their place and are great and then like, you know, Hulk comically punch and Thor and whatever else. I think Anthony Mackey's pretty funny in these movies. He's great in these movies. I do love the bird costume joke where like we take his bird costume.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Oh, come on, man. He's so awesome. I think he as a dude who's like, of the Avengers that are just people that can do neat tricks. Yeah. He's the best of those. You know what I mean? Like there's no reason for Jeremy Renner to be in this movie. I was about to say, I don't know what. And
Starting point is 00:20:49 Who's clamor in for Hawkeye, man? I fucking hate Jeremy Renner, everybody. You know what? I'll just come out and say it. I don't think he's good in these movies. I don't think, I don't know what he's trying to do. I don't know what he is doing. He always seems fairly disengaged.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Because, well, here's the problem is that he feels like that almost all the time. Sure. And the Hawkeye character is supposed to be like, the whole gag of him is like, I don't fit in because I'm not a monster, hero, whatever. Sure. when you have that coupled with a dude whose on-screen persona is I don't give a fuck in the first place I'm like well why do I give a fuck
Starting point is 00:21:27 that you're in this movie at the end he's just in jail forever and he's like I guess I shouldn't have come out of retirement to be arrested yeah I'm like hey dude not for nothing newsflash you're married to Linda Cardalini go enjoy that life on the farm but the captain of America
Starting point is 00:21:42 breaks them all out at the end it's true his heart grows two sizes bigger I don't know I thought it was cool I do like the fight is very cool it's well choreographed it's fun it's your eight here's the thing and I was worried about this from the trailers too
Starting point is 00:21:58 it's watchable you can you understand everything that's happening again I rewatched Ultron before I went to see this that opening fight of like the Avengers just doing stuff and then terrible and then the end fight
Starting point is 00:22:13 you can't tell what's happening It's edited so poorly. The cuts are so rapid. You have no idea where everybody is. I think the other thing that's really smart about it is it's just on this airport runway. So, like, you can see everything. And you know what, D.C., the sun's out, and you get to see everybody's faces. And all the costumes are pretty bright.
Starting point is 00:22:36 That's a lot of fun to look at. Totally. I really loved one of the coolest things I thought in this fight was Ant Man going into Iron Man's suit and fucking with stuff. Oh, yeah. And it was like, oh, well, how's he gonna get out of this one? And then it's like the anti-fire thing and he like flushes him out.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Like, it just, it worked. They smartly paired up people that should fight each other at the right times kind of a thing. And it wasn't just, we're bashing everybody's brains in it. Yeah, it's not button mashing from like a bad video game.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like, there's actual like choreography there. I love the Empire Strikes Back gang. I was just going to say, that's so funny. I saw this old movie called the Empire Strikes Back. That was just nice. It's a fun little thing. I will say it's the weirdest part of the movie
Starting point is 00:23:19 is the fake RDJ as a young teenager. That gave me skin chills, everybody. At least it was like, I thought it was going to be a flashback and I was like, what's it going on? But thank God it's just one of his stupid inventions because then it can look terrible because it's a dumb invention. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I didn't think it looked that terrible. It's a nice, like, less than zero era R.D.J. I was kind of fine with it and honestly what Tony Stark is using it for and the fact that he like admitted it publicly like I don't know I was like this is like
Starting point is 00:23:55 it's got some emotional weight to it these movies a lot of the time don't have for me like I feel like they're very hollow with that stuff and that I was kind of like oh you know and then like when all that stuff comes back around like I really thought this movie showcased
Starting point is 00:24:12 better than any of his solo movies better than the Avengers appearances. It's the best performance of Robert Downey Jr. in these movies, I thought. Probably, yeah. I really think he did the best. They give him the most to work with in that way. So do you think in the next movie, we're going to see what happens
Starting point is 00:24:28 with all these students-funded projects? I would hope so. Is that the stinger? Am I watching this right? You're just going, it's a stinger scene of like, you know, people at a science fair or like an IBM job interview.
Starting point is 00:24:43 man what are all these people going to do and I do say I only keep bringing up bad stuff but I will say I got a problem with the stingers when it's the logical conclusion of the plot is part of a stinger right that's not okay and I think that happens in another one of these movies too
Starting point is 00:24:59 that I can't remember but like it's the Roger Ebert rule your movie ends when the credits roll yeah don't continue the story if you want Danos farting around you want to do you want to showcase a character or have like a one-off gag like the Peter Parker gag they have at the end of this it's fine but it should be the winter soldier being like I have to go my planet needs me
Starting point is 00:25:17 that's the end of the movie that's like the whole movie's about what's the winter soldier going to do yeah give me that rap-up of him getting frozen in Africa and Black Panther's going to like oversee it yeah because that's honestly what an awesome black outline for the movie of Black Panther being like let them try or whatever it is oh yeah and you look out and you see oh man great shot they just pan out to everything boom cut to black like directed by the Russo brothers. Fucking badass, dude. That's, yeah, that's stupid that that's a fucking stinger.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I'm excited for that movie. Oh, man. Is Coogler definitely directing him? He's 100% directing it. He announced Michael B. Jordan as something. Like, he's just, he's in it in some way shape or form. Is the, are we going to have to deal with this Andy Circus villain? Probably.
Starting point is 00:26:05 That's what's he crossbones? Is that what it's called? No, Claw? Frank Grillo was crossbones. Oh, he's the dude that gets killed in this movie. Yeah, he comes off the purge anarchy and starts beating up Captain America. Is that worth watching? I never saw it, actually.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I want to because I think that the purge election year looks fucking stupid, like a real fun fucking stupid. Yeah, I kind of want to see it. So I want to catch up with the franchise? Oh my God, we got to, guys, we got to watch the purge. We got to watch all that perjers. I saw that first one, and that movie is awkward and not good. I saw that too. That movie is just awkwardly, a rich white couple ties a black gentleman to a chair and beats the
Starting point is 00:26:42 shit out of him until they then open a door and let a gang of other rich white people murder him. I don't understand how there are elections in the purge. And the idea is like this woman's like against the purge and everyone's like, nah, fuck that lady. It's like, no. Are you kidding? I mean, she said that lady's
Starting point is 00:26:58 got as much of a chance to be elected as Jill Stein. Well, the real bleeding heart liberal. She's this green party kid. Well, the thing is like, okay, come on. Think about the world post-Trump's legacy. after being president for a long time. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Four terms until he dies of a massive steak-related heart attack. I don't know. He might be in there forever, yeah. Yeah. Like Fidel Castro. Exactly. Turn him into a robot. Yeah. All right, let's get this on the table.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Is Fidel Castro secretly dead and has been for years? And we've got like Saddam. What did this? What show my husband? Saddam dupes. Sorry to get all blame. on outer space on you guys. I apologize, Marvel movie fans.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So it's just like, why aren't they talking about the Black Widow? Listen, I think Fidel Castro may be might be dead, but I think it would be a recent event. I'm not, I don't know if they're... Like a 10 years thing.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Here's, I'll tie it back in. It's something that Captain America could get to the bottom of. That would be great. Before he allows tourism, before he allows American people to visit. He has to murder.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Or find out the truth about Castro. He's a Muppet. Not a lot of Scarlett Johansson in this movie. No. That's okay, by me. They're giving it more to
Starting point is 00:28:26 Elizabeth Olson. I mean, heaven forbid there's two women with agency in this film. But again, like, I don't know. Scarlet Witch is a cooler character.
Starting point is 00:28:35 She has a power. She has a power. It's fine. Because Scarlet Johansson, I mean, she's kind of Hawkeye, the lady. Yes. I mean, she's better than Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Well, of course. Yeah. I'm interested in that movie that they, I think they announced it or they're going to announce it. If they do it, it would be cool. I mean, because the problem is, it's just, I mean, it's the same with all the other powerless characters. They're sitting around when Thanos is turning like squirrels into gold and it's like, wait, what? Fuck, is that his end game? Dude, that's how you win the Infinity Wars.
Starting point is 00:29:06 By the way, Freakazoid fans, that's a freakazoid joke. Oh. Wait, is someone going to turn his Infinity Gauntlet back? into squirrels. It's got to put to a gaggle of squirrels. Yeah, like, she just she gets sidelined in this movie.
Starting point is 00:29:22 She kind of has a nice, like, she then, you know, she's supposed to be like against Captain America and then she lets those guys go, I guess. But I was like, come on, man, you're just instigating this bucky nonsense. Now you're pro bucky. Like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I don't like... Passing the buck. I'm just not a fan. Like, I want... in America to have a better reason to do the stuff that he does, but other than my buddy. You know what I mean? My buddy. Well, I know that this Civil War does not really at all go along with the comic line, but like the comic story of Civil War.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Right. That's Abe Lincoln. Oh, right, right, right, right. The Abe Lincoln comics. Well, we had to mention it. Those were some hot Marvel sellers. They actually had Civil War comic line Marvel. They did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Oh, really? Oh, that's cool. That actually, you know, featured Man in Blank. blue uniforms, men in gray uniforms. You know, and they had an airplane hangar fight of their own. So, yeah, I don't know. Like, if they gave Scarlet Witch more to do in this movie,
Starting point is 00:30:22 but again, just like... Yeah, Black Widow. Oh, Black Widow, excuse me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Give her the own solo movie, you get two hours of Black Widow. I'm like killing people in Russia and doing... That's cool. But here's the thing about that, though. You need to make that...
Starting point is 00:30:36 An R-rated movie? Like a born movie. Yeah. Like an R-rated... Scarlet is just kicking ass in that. movie like I could because here's what's like it's a born movie so you would have Jeremy renter in the last one and then cut him out of the new one because nobody wanted to watch that's another movie he's sleeping through that's what they're like oh let's go back to the one that worked he could have had his own franchise there but instead he took a two hour and 40 minute nap in a cabin somewhere that eventually blew up for some reason I don't really
Starting point is 00:31:02 remember that movie so I think is like his height is hurt locker yes yeah oh yeah and that's and that's that yeah but the thing with the thing with black widow is like yeah make this like hardcore you know because I don't want the start of is it the first Avengers movie where she's like joking around with these Russian terrorists or whatever is that the first start of that one yeah I just because I don't I'm tired of like tongue and cheek stuff in every movie I like when it's like we have different tones for these different Marvel movies and that's a perfect one that you could do it with I like that uh the flashback scene in Ultron that weird thing with
Starting point is 00:31:39 where they show like her graduation she's shooting people in the right oh right because you got what's her face there before sunrise
Starting point is 00:31:49 what is her name that's killing Julie Delpie yeah in like such a small role and I was like oh that's kind of maybe set there must be a weird thing
Starting point is 00:31:56 where like they must have gotten her like some on some weird on some weird like almost Richard Linkletter S contract like in the next nine years we're going to call you
Starting point is 00:32:04 for a Marvel movie and she's like whatever new house I'll believe that when it happens I mean because that would be awesome right Like have a movie where like Black Widow's going around kicking ass And it turns out like Julie Delpy's the villain
Starting point is 00:32:19 And it's like oh a relic from my past Blah blah blah but she's like Breaking Necks and throwing dudes out windows and shit And then Lady Thanos shows up Lady Infinity Stone Yeah that's what that's cool Played by Roseanne Barr I feel like she could voice it
Starting point is 00:32:35 Exactly Phanos is playing poker with her family. That's just like Thanos to take all the chips. Exactly. I think that's it. I think we covered all the bases.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I think that's enough. I really liked that there's no magic in this movie. You know what I mean? If Thor was farting around here, it's just a little too much. The vision is kind of magic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And Scarlet Witch, too, right? Yeah. Yeah, I get, but yeah, she's like an enhanced human. I mean, she is usually magic, but in the movie, she's an enhanced human. Yeah, the thing is, I don't know what's going on. Well, we can't use the M word on this side of the Marvel Isle. No, that's, is the problem. We use Inhuman, which is a franchise that never happened.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Oh, yikes, they canceled that movie. They shelved it. Yeah, okay. They shelved it. Shelved it all the way to the garbage. Yeah, I really dug it. I think that I really like the vision. I could almost go for a vision movie.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Oh, I don't know about that. Let's not get nuts. Has the vision had like his own line at all? He's got a pretty good comic book series out right now. Oh, that's cool. On shelves now. I mean, because I like Paul Bettney. Paul Bettney's a dude that constantly makes terrible movies.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, it's, but even as like the voice of the computer in these Iron Man movies, I was like, this is the greatest work you've done in ages. And he's doing it, you know, he's doing, he's doing all this. wearing that cool outfit for half the movie. I really enjoyed that sweater over that button down. Oh, he's looking pretty sharp as like Professor Vision.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You know, I agree with you. And it kind of harkens back to Batman and that duster. You know, put some coats on these people, but let's get some slacks. Exactly. On the Iron Man. Some clothes over these costumes. I think it'll work out. Oh, last thing I loved
Starting point is 00:34:31 is tying in our good friend Brent Reynolds No, well close He needs to be in a Marvel movie Oh, who would he play? He could play somebody Stanley's lackey nephew
Starting point is 00:34:46 Kurt Lee You know, it's sort of like Tommy Lee Jones played a military guy In Captain America He could play some aged out colonel That's right Speaking of age out colonels That's what I was going to say
Starting point is 00:34:59 William Hurt in this movie I'm glad that they tied That first Incredible Hulk movie back in. That was nice. Oh, wow. I didn't even know. You didn't even realize that. Thunderbolt Ross.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah. That's great. I dug that. And I liked his character. And they kind of like turn him into a jokey villain. But he's like, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. You've killed thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up. But seriously, seriously, seriously. Like, there's a whole country dead. And like, you know. Yeah, yeah. Mothers are without children. Children are not mothers.
Starting point is 00:35:25 This is a bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shut up. And he's a great actor to ground that stuff too. So I was like, I was happy to see that. There is that great scene where he's just showing like, Sokobia, New York. And Captain America has this great like, I'm trying to eat lunch here.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Stop making me remember all of our fucking massacres that we've been a part of. Yep. Ah, well, that is WHM on screen for Captain America colon civil war. What's another big release one of that we could promise this summer.
Starting point is 00:35:59 There's a couple things coming in. Someone was, I keep, someone's like asking you know, oh, you can do one screens on this, that, and the other thing. It's always like a matter of time. We'll do at least two. I'm going to see that X-Men movie.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I will say this. Independence Day 2. Oh, that might be one to do. I have seen X-Men apocalypse. Oh. And I liked it. I feel like I'm going to spend the summer eating shit for this.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But I liked it. I'm ready to like it. I was, in the mood to just see a fun action movie and that be it and I got it when I saw it so I don't know I'm putting it out on the air I liked X-Men of Pocket
Starting point is 00:36:37 Can I ask you how big Stan Lee's house is or like what are we talking here? Oh my God you could tell us his cameo Oh Welcome to my house mighty Mavalites You got a golden ticket It's Not you Jack Kirby
Starting point is 00:36:54 You dirty piece of dog shit get out I'm hiding one golden ticket in the Marvel comic books you gotta buy them all gotta buy them all Marvelites sorry Augustus Gloop you're the blob now
Starting point is 00:37:08 Stan Lee and his wife cameo in the movie oh wow keep your eyes peeled for Mrs. Lee as well their cameo credits by the way as themselves it's not Stan Lee playing a fucking Baxter building mailman
Starting point is 00:37:24 yeah he's just like oh Did you see all this, Martha? We should make a comic book out of it. Very wisely, he keeps his fucking mouth shut. Oh, no, is it like Ben Gazera having sex and happiness? Is that what happened? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I knew it. I knew it's going to happen eventually. So until next time, I'm Andrew Juven. Stephen Siddharic. Take it easy, Mighty Mama Nights. Thank you. Thank you.

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