We Hate Movies - S6: WHM On-Screen: Deadpool

Episode Date: February 24, 2016

On this episode of WHM On-Screen, Andrew and Steve sit down to chat about the mega-success that is Deadpool. Throughout the talk, the two give their complaints & grievances with the film, and also... mention what they really liked about it. Not shockingly, Steve is knowledgeable and informed about the character and where he comes from, while Andrew is ignorant and doing his best to keep up. PLUS: Lots and lots and lots of X-Men talk. So much so that they watched an X-Men movie right after recording. Deadpool stars Ryan Reynolds, Ed Skrein, Brianna Hildebrand, T.J. Miller, Morena Baccarin, Gina Carano, Leslie Uggams, and Stefan Kapicic as the voice of the poorly used Colossus; directed by Tim Miller.Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So are you a reader of this comic, like actively, or what? I was in the late 90s. I mean, like, Deadpool, the history of the character was, like, mid-90s or early 90s? Rob Liefeld, X-Force happened and then, like, it was a bunch of people with guns that didn't make a whole lot of sense fought each other. And Deadpool...
Starting point is 00:00:38 Like notable people? Yeah, yeah, cable and all that. That's where all that stuff starts. And then, I mean, just the most 90s comic you could have in 90s. Right. But those characters moved on and got nuanced as the years went on. Deadpool was one of them. Deadpool had a, which I really liked a solo series where it was
Starting point is 00:00:54 very similar to what the movie was, where it's like, there's Blind Al, Weasel is there, and like, it's All right. Well, so wait a second. Weasel is T.J. Miller and Blind Al is the old blind lady. Oh, yes. Okay. That's where all that comes from. And he goes on missions and, like, gets into wacky adventures. And it's like fun. It's like, it's like half Looney Tunes, half like actual Marvel comic thing. And that's where that went on. And then kind of Deadpool in the, as the 90s and 2000s progressed, just became so omnipresent in comics. And like he's just everywhere. Like he's been on the X-Men. He's been on the fucking probably on the Avengers. at least once. Oh, really? He's been on X-Fort.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Like, he's just, every, you're going to sell, like, it's the Wolverine thing. Like, you're trying to sell comics, put Deadpool on the cover. So he's that big of a character. He's gotten that big, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Wow. Okay. And it's always been like a mature title. Like, he's swearing and it's, like, violent. The Joe Kelly one I talk about was a little bit, was more for everybody, but it was a little bit edgier. But as the 2000s went on,
Starting point is 00:01:57 then they're like, oh, we can make a mature Deadpool series. and that's where all that came from. Oh, oh, oh. So, welcome to WHM on the screen. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Stephen Sadek. We're talking, of course, about the Deadpool movie, which has been out for a couple weeks now, directed... Oh, one week.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Well, actually... Probably by the time this comes out two weeks. Sure. Directed by a fellow named Tim Miller, this is sort of his... The biggest thing he's done so far. I guess he is already contracted to do Deadpool, too, because this was a massive success.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Hugely surprising, so. I mean, like, it's... It's a superhero movie in a time when superhero movies do well, but not all of them do well. You never know. No, I'm looking at you, Ant Man. I mean, Ant Man did fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's this.
Starting point is 00:02:40 It's an R-rated movie, which is totally different. Yeah, it's, it's, uh, now, here's what I worry about the R-rated thing. So, like, there's, you know, this was a hugely successful movie. I think in the opening weekend, it was something like $137 million. I was something fucking crazy. Nuts. And so they were like, oh, this proves good news. for like R ratings and violence
Starting point is 00:03:01 like you can still have a successful R rated movie and it's that's fine and of course and I agree with that however I just fear that the logic on the Fox side would be like yeah but think of how much money we could have made if it was PG-13
Starting point is 00:03:15 oh okay you know and I don't think that they'll do that but I feel like there's probably one egghead in the room that's just like but what about you know and yeah like that's the only reason I give a shit about this movie If this was a PG-13 movie I don't think I'm carrying
Starting point is 00:03:33 And like I wasn't crazy about this And like we can get into it But like I liked it enough I had fun in the theater So this is of course Ryan Reynolds This is his third turn Third comic book character
Starting point is 00:03:45 That he's playing No fourth Well does So are you counting Like fake Deadpool You gotta count Yeah well and he was also what In the Blade movie too
Starting point is 00:03:54 Well I'm counting that He was in Blade Trinity Yes I mean I don't know if that character was ever a character in Blade. I've never read a Blade comic. He was. Oh, was he? Yeah, Hannibal, whatever. Okay. I don't think he was Ryan Reynolds, though.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Well, was he like a, was he a great big fat person? And they just made it into a hunk. No, I mean, he just wasn't funny and, like, quippy, I'm pretty sure. Oh, oh, yeah. He wasn't talking about iTunes playlist with Jessica Beale. Probably not. I would hope not. And then obviously Green Lantern, see our live
Starting point is 00:04:22 episode on Green Lantern, by the way. And also, RIPD was also a comic book franchise. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess. Okay. I forgot about that. Yeah, so that's in there. He's just trying every which way but loose, man. Yeah. And, you know, I guess this sticks. This is a stick. It works. And I was a, I'm a pseudo fan of the character. Like, I'm fan of some versions of the character, but he is so overexposed. I don't love everything. I'm not like a Deadpool head. Right. Of which there are many. Oh, I've seen the t-shirts. They're out there. They're out there. And I think this movie's fun too. I think it's totally just just a fun movie. The R rating. is the only reason it makes any it's actually interesting to watch or like oh wow they're really doing this and like it goes for a bawdy hard R
Starting point is 00:05:06 oh yeah which I appreciate this R is rock hard which is awesome now I gotta ask you this though so I saw this in the theater opening weekend but I had massive train trouble getting to this theater
Starting point is 00:05:22 okay it fucking sucked I was going late night screening this was last weekend and like you know like most of the country New York was in like that bitter fucking chill yeah yeah so dude trains don't run when it's cold sorry how could a train run when it's cold
Starting point is 00:05:36 you tell me engineers dude I'm going downtown right and the train just stops sure and it doesn't cold out there it doesn't stop like train traffic the train shuts off oh no and all that's on are the lights but like the map navigation died
Starting point is 00:05:53 like everything on the train was dead oh my god the train's dead Oh, that train's mama. Yeah, it was bad. And we're just sitting there and sitting there. And then you see the technician walking outside the train car, looking to see what's going on. And you've got the lady on the intercom. Like, we're trying to figure out why the train won't hold a charge.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Meanwhile, also, it starts getting cold on this train. Because I'm not that far underground. And the train is, and I'm like, am I going to die trying to see. Deadpool? Like, am I just going to freeze to death of this train car? So, I mean, long story short, it finally gets back up. I hoof it to the theater. You weren't in the best mood, I'm guessing. No, of course
Starting point is 00:06:37 not. It's me. Yeah. And so I'm like, all right, I'm debating, you know, when is the next showing? Oh, fucking. It's an IMAX one, so I'm going to have to exchange the ticket and this whole thing. So I get up to the dude and I show him like the ticket on my phone and I'm like, how
Starting point is 00:06:53 much of this movie did I miss? Yeah. And he was like, eh, probably like three minutes. I was like, fuck it. I'm sweating like a pig. You're fine. It's two degrees outside. You know, I'm not going home. I'm going to see this movie that I don't know anything about. Yeah. But so this is what I have to ask you. So I missed the beginning of the movie. So when I came in
Starting point is 00:07:09 he is, and you know, obviously spoiler alert, we're going to be talking about the movie a little bit here. He's in the middle of that like highway chase scene and whatnot. Did anything important really happen before then? Like, I feel like I got the movie. No, yeah. How does it really start?
Starting point is 00:07:24 No, the movie starts. humorously enough with like I don't know how much of the highway chase you see you saw but like when that truck rolls over and all the stuff happens with a coffee cup and whatever else it's that scene frozen and you don't know what's going on it's kind of a fun shot it's like
Starting point is 00:07:43 you see like the coffee cup first you're like what does that mean and then like it kind of expands out and you realize what Deadpool's up to and all that stuff like that's the opening credits and the opening credits actually doesn't say any names it's like if Deadpool wrote the credits So that sounds fun
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yeah it's like Oh The World's Most Handsome Comic Book character Some Hot Chick Something else An obligatory cameo It's that kind of a thing
Starting point is 00:08:11 So it's very again Very Looney Tunes-esque opening Which is kind of Fun You know what I mean Yeah It's why that movie works It's fun
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's fun It's yeah I mean It is a fun movie sure i feel like though you liked it more than i did probably i think it's yeah yeah yeah i did but i'm not without my problems with it i thought marina backeran gets kind of this kind of this kind of like it's it's it's kind of like you can make a case as this is a misogynistic movie and you're probably right like you know what i mean like she's just there for fucking and that's kind of it pretty much and then she's like kidnapped at the end of the movie and but she's still down for fucking at the end of the movie like oh sure and there's also that like it always bugs me like when like women are into Star Wars 100%, but there's this other thing where it's like,
Starting point is 00:08:58 oh man, that chick's so hot, and she's talking about Star Wars. Yes, there's that one line, like, A, that the sex sequence is a really funny, I think, for the most part, like they're just fucking on every holiday and like making little punny jokes for each one. And that works.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And like, it is really raunchy, which again, you're like, whoa, is this a superhero movie? Like, that's the whole point of that sequence. And it works. That's the part of the movie where bad parents are like, oh, my done fucked up. Shouldn't have brought my kids to this one.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Exactly. Oh, man, now he's fucked. I thought he was just going to be blowing people's heads off, but he's fucking a lot in this movie. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I will stand for him ripping throats out and shooting fucking people in the face. But the second, he is having sexual intercourse
Starting point is 00:09:42 with a naked woman, and I can see his nude ass. Yeah. No, thank you. And, like, there's pegging and shit. Oh, yeah. It goes places. But then at the end of it, like, and she said, like nine words you know what i mean this entire movie to this point she's just whips out this star
Starting point is 00:09:58 war's reference to deadpools like oh man you're the coolest girlfriend ever and it's like yeah but she should be a person as opposed to like a fanboy whatever the fuck well oh man a sexy lady like star wars and now she's my sexy girlfriend i mean there is a line after that for all the nerds because ryan reynolds is like did i make you with my computer yeah making a weird science joke and like then again throwing it back volley back to the nerds and it's like oh man weird science jokes too oh but also you know what ryan reynolds looks like ryan reynolds that whole fucking scene or that whole series oh yeah so that's the reason for the season yeah yeah totally he's not building anything with a computer yeah and i mean like the romance
Starting point is 00:10:48 thing like it gives i mean to your i think what your problem with this movie if i remember a correction our story was like basically there's kind of no movie here. There's no movie. Yeah. I mean, and that's, it's just kind of annoying. Like, it's like that first,
Starting point is 00:11:03 actually like both of the origin story Fantastic Four movies where it's like, oh, we have powers now, that's cool. Who's that guy? Credits. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's what, like,
Starting point is 00:11:13 you spend so much of the movie, it flashes back between this like highway car chase and his origins. Yes. Which is fine because I get it. You have most. of this movie where your main character is under a mask but you've got Ryan Reynolds so like
Starting point is 00:11:27 you want to spread out how much Ryan Reynolds you have in your movie sure which is totally smart and I get it and then like you know when he's deformed like he does have the mask off still but it's like Ryan Reynolds looking like a fucking ball sack face so you know that's not handsome Ryan Reynolds that anyone wants to look at so like I get it it's smart
Starting point is 00:11:45 but that's pretty much the whole movie and then it's like oh my girlfriend was kidnapped let's go take two X-Men who nobody gives us shit about. One who definitely nobody gives a shit about. Yes. And we're going to go on this like, I guess, 10 minute adventure to get her back. Yeah. And that's the movie. I mean, the thing is, what I like
Starting point is 00:12:03 about the movie is, most of it is just that highway chase, or a lot of it is that highway chase, like, played out. And that's what you want to see. You want to see like a bunch of like anonymous heavies and you know, Deadpool's bugs bunneying all over them, you know, in an R-rated fashion,
Starting point is 00:12:19 which is super fun. And I actually don't mind the X-Men in that sequence. Like, when Colossus in What's His Face Show and Negasonic Teenage Warhead who is a Grant Morrison character that appeared like... Yeah, that's a mouthful. Yeah, that appeared in like... I mean, they were like, look, Fox was like,
Starting point is 00:12:34 all right, we want some X-Men in this movie. Who can we use? Well, I guess to get anyone to care, we'll use Colossus who, they look at like the slate of the next nine movies. They're like, well, he's not going to be in any of them. Let's just put him in here. That way someone will shut, that fat guy will stop calling me every week, ask me when Colossus
Starting point is 00:12:51 is showing up. And he's CGI so you don't really have to hire anybody anyway And you can get away with it Right And then you get this other one where it's like I don't know but we need like a girl another We only have one woman in the movie Let's get or two women actually
Starting point is 00:13:04 Gina Carano's in this movie doing nothing Oh super nothing And let's bring her in and she It's the bar it's your like X men first class cast away Where like all those characters You're like wait who are these people? Why am I what? That X-Men first class is really tough
Starting point is 00:13:21 because I'm looking at those people like, well, you're not Storm. Yep. You know what I mean? Hey, where's Gambit? Where's anybody? I mean, so to me, like, I hear word that the X-Men are floating into this movie,
Starting point is 00:13:35 and I'm like, Negassant, what? And so immediately, I'm like, well, you don't count. Yeah, I agree. And then here's a C-grade colossus. Yes. And he's just, I mean, like, he's a god of war character. Like, it's like Frank Welker did the voice, too.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like, it was just a voice. voice actor. They didn't like hire anybody. No. But get the guy from Daywatch to do the voice of Colossus. They're done. I just, it's five grand or whatever it is. I mean, honestly, like, what was the price point and like what would the different to just
Starting point is 00:14:05 make it that much better? Because like, I actually kind of really like Colossus. I almost always play it as him in that arcade game. Sure. You know, so he's got his fans. He's got legions of Colossus fans. Sure. And it's like, just do it. Like, I get it that it's the Deadpool show.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, but if you're going to do it, just do it and do something. Get anyone from Game of Thrones. Like, you know, the villain is a Game of Thrones, dude. Oh, is that right? Yeah, or he was in, I think he was, he's in some one of the, he plays some game of throne at some point. And it's, uh... Ed Screen is his name. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, playing Ajax.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Ajax, which is just, you know, I mean, whatever. You know, and it's fine. And I, all that stuff I like, but I was saying, no, I don't, I'm just on the internet ticket here. No, game of Thrones for this guy. Or my nuts. No, I don't. He's, oh, you know what he was in, though? He's the dude who replaced Jason Statham in those fucking Transporter. Oh, okay. He's Frank Martin and Transporter refueled, which, uh...
Starting point is 00:15:02 Well, he certainly almost looks like Jason Statham, doesn't he? But, like, that part is fine because it's part of this big chase and, like, they, you've tied in your universe is Colossus X-Ben, you know, and like, Deadpool makes a bunch of jokes about Patrick Stewart, which I actually like the fourth wall stuff. Now, but so this is where, I don't know that we differ on it because I was fine with it, but my argument for this is that confines this character to that world, I feel. Because, like, how can you then have it? If, whatever it is, they wind up doing with X-Men, whatever the next phase of X-Men is. And you actually have to applaud Fox a little bit for this because, like, stepping the shit up, man. Clearly, they're stepping shit up. They're getting stuff going, but you know what they're not doing? Publicly just sucking each other off about how great the next. fucking phase of whatever is. You know what I mean? There's that. You know, I don't need Marvel giving me the thumbs up from 2020.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Like, get ready to love all these fucking movies. Yeah, yeah. I'm fine just letting knowing what's coming out next year. Whatever it's coming out next year is. Sure. And so like, whatever it is, wherever the X-Men go, like, he's, now that he made so much money, he's got to be. And it's just, it's going to be weird.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Like, I don't think Patrick Stewart's going to be back for stuff. Like, who knows what's happened with James? What's his Maccavoie, you know, so like, if he's, because the joke is like, you know, oh, Professor Xavier, is it, you know, Patrick Stewart or James, is it Stuart or McAvoy is the joke? But it's like, if that character knows that and is on that meta level, if he then appears in a movie alongside like an older James McAvoy or something, it doesn't make any fucking sense. There's this kind of fake weird rule that happens in the comics too.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Like Deadpool will look at the, not the camera, but like, you know, looks at the panel. Look at the panel and says, you know, like, we'll make some joke about Marvel comics or make some joke about editors or whatever. Like, so he's aware of who's writing the comics. It's the Bugs Bunny with the pencil. You know what I mean? Like, you know, they're drawing the cartoon. So he's aware of it, but like, it's just an aside. And if it just happens only in the Deadpool world, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You know what I mean? And so, but that is my question slash concern. If he's then, because, like, as you said, he's been, whatever. Yeah, he's been in all of those comic lines, too. so it's like if he's in one of these more serious movies are we taking half a second for Ryan Reynolds to look at the fucking camera while like Jennifer Lawrence is being butchered
Starting point is 00:17:29 Why is she getting butchered? Oh I don't know I just had a bad feeling about mystique in this timeline Yeah but you know what I mean Like something serious and dramatic is You know James McAvoy is getting a bullet in his fucking back Yeah yeah yeah and then he's like Hoyt's doesn't it
Starting point is 00:17:43 I mean that I would hope that does not happen It's gonna take away from where what you're trying to do. No, and I think that that's, I mean, like, what I liked about this movie was the lack of reverence for everything and anything. Yeah. And just like, you know, everything, it's not, like, even the emotional angle is pretty much a sexual angle, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:05 Like, it's just like, hey, there's a body fun. It's like always sunny in Philadelphia if it was like, if you put it Mac at a Deadpool costume. Yeah, that's actually pretty good way to describe it. I think T.J. Miller is fun. But, I mean, I do think that. I loved T.J. Miller in this movie. He was actually. Kind of maybe my favorite non-Ryan Reynolds part of the movie, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I mean, that Blade 2 joke slayed me. He's just a funny fucking dude. Sure. And it's like, it's great that they had him in this. What's weird is his straight hair that they give him? Yeah. How long did that take? Days and days.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I don't think it's a wig. I think he's got like chemically straightened hair in this movie. That's a tough one. It's very hard to swallow. But like he's very funny in the movie. I mean, my problem also. Like with this Ajax character, get anybody. You know what?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Just get anybody. Because the problem is, if you're going to have a villain who's not really doing much, like this guy kind of just has a junkyard battleship hideout or whatever this place is at the end. Sure. But there's no real plan. It's just like I have specifically kidnapped what's his name, Wade Wilson? Yeah, Wade Wilson's ex-girlfriend. Yeah, because like, you know, after he has the, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:19 experiment done on him to make him a mutant like he's disfigured so he like runs away. He also has like a terminal cancer diagnosis that they fix with this mutation. Yeah that's part of it. But so he's like ashamed of the way he looks so he like just makes her pretend or makes her think that he's dead or whatever. Anyway
Starting point is 00:19:35 like this dude has no other plan. I don't believe which I actually again I appreciate again lack of reverence. We're not like lifting up Kosovo into the sky and going to drop it down or whatever happens at the end of Avengers too. Listen I'm not saying a third world country needs to be raised a mile above the earth surface but I just need
Starting point is 00:19:55 anything because all it is is this dude who's like I've kind of been annoyed by Wade Wilson through half of this movie yes now I'm going to kidnap his girlfriend but like you have all these henchmen you have this huge base so what is it just an average Wednesday like something's got to be going on and you know what I think that they should do for the next movie and I think that A the problem with Deadpool uh one of this one of the problems is like his motivation's super weak like he buys that for some reason Ajax can make him better again
Starting point is 00:20:25 which doesn't make any sense yes this whole thread of like you can make me look normal which I look what do you read that off the back of a crackerjackbox like where did you get that for like it's very thinly defined it's the only reason to give him any motivation to get to the end of the movie but like if there was a vague drug trade
Starting point is 00:20:41 going on and AJ and Ajax is involved I'm fine like make it an 80s action movie yes with Deadpool doing the fun stuff that he does. Bing, bang, boom. Maybe it's like the plot of that movie Fatal Beauty with Whoopi Goldberg
Starting point is 00:20:55 and like there's bad crank on the street. Yeah, you can make mutant crank or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Like, we got to get this gack off the street. Like, these kids are, you know, killing themselves or whatever. That's just it's something, but instead it's just like, I'm sorry, Deadpool, your princess is in another castle. Yeah, I mean, it's like, that's not
Starting point is 00:21:11 a thing for a movie. It should be a straight revenge movie also. Like, that makes like, oh, you did this to me. I'm a homicidal maniac. Here I come being a homicidal maniac. Also, like, she should just be murdered in front of him. Yeah. I know what I mean? It wouldn't hurt the movies, like, standing with
Starting point is 00:21:27 like, it's either that or she's just like, let's have sex again. Like, at the end of the movie, she's like, I'm going to sit on your face and like, sure. I mean, it's like, you know, he puts, he takes off the mask and she's like, that's a face I'd like to sit on or whatever, and you're just like, okay, that's this movie's
Starting point is 00:21:43 like, I love you too. Like, which is fine. Yeah, sure. That's the world you've built. sure but that's like the note we're going on on his face hitting it's like you know I don't need Patrick Stewart to roll out at the end of this movie come with me Mr. Wilson like I don't need that but like I just kind of need something other than a fake fucking you know X man just being like okay now it's time to go back to Westchester house yeah I did yeah I mean and you did a better colossus than that guy did Yeah, I just, you know, the fact that they're all...
Starting point is 00:22:18 If it was just him, it was just Deadpool, like, on the boat, killing all these people, doing that stuff. Yeah. And, like, even if it was, you know, we keep the kidnap subplot, sure, whatever. But the fact that, like, Colossus has to fight Gina Carano and then Negasonic Teenage Warheads doing whatever the else fuck. It's like, it's not a teen movie. It's called fucking Deadpool. Like, that's what I... That's what you've built this movie on.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And I understand, I remember from 38 minutes ago that he lives near the X-Men. Like, I remember that part. Although I do think that Coloss is vomiting at the end. It got me. He blows the dude's head off and he throws up. It's, it played. It kind of, like, you know. I do like that the movie does, because, like, they set up that moment of, like, you know, you don't have to kill him kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And he does. And you're like, all right, good. Like, this movie's keeping it where it needs to be. Like, also, I, because I didn't need, like, a redemptive Deadpool or anything like that. Like, I was like, please shoot. this guy in the face. Please shoot this non-villain in the face. Which is a problem. Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:20 hats off to Ryan Reynolds. He did. He was in that terrible stay tuned, by the way. Wolverine Origins number one. Oh, yes. X-1 origins colon Wolverine, I think, is the way they went with that. It's actually so much more of a state tune now than it was before because of what they do with a Deadpool character in that.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah. It's, I don't know who even thought that was an idea to make. I think there's a joke in Deadpool, uh, a makeup joke because one of the dumbest things in that movie was they sewed his mouth shut. Yes. And I think in this movie, they're showing like different test subjects of this same process. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And there's somebody with, it looks like there's a sewn up mouth. Yeah, I was like, ha, ha, knocked on that movie. They also make fun of that movie directly in this, I think. Yeah, he holds up actually the action figure of him at some point. He's like, well, this sucks. You know what I mean? Or something to that effect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Like, but like, and he really lobbied hard for the character. He understood what the character was. and wanted to do. And it's what you want in a Ryan Reynolds superhero movie where he's making jokes and he's doing...
Starting point is 00:24:20 He's beefy and handsome but he's also making jokes which is why Green Lantern sucks because he's flat as fuck and when he makes joke you're like, well, what are you talking about? It's like, well, that's not funny. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:24:32 But this movie plays to all of his strengths and now it's the biggest movie of his career and there'll definitely be like two or three or five more of them. I mean, I'm sure he's like in this for a jack
Starting point is 00:24:44 Ackman-esque, you know, amount of time, probably. And, I mean, especially if they start, like, dropping them into other things, which, I mean, is there any indication of where the X-Men are going after Apocalypse? I have no idea, actually. Like, that movie's been pretty well secretive of what they're going to do. I mean, like, honestly, if they just keep making X-Men movies that are, you know what I mean? Like, this time it's Apocalypse. Next time it's Mr. Sinister. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Whatever else happens. Something goes on on Genosha. Like, I'll watch all those movies. You know what I mean? And, like, if they do that and, like, if they do that and, like, this. they branch out and like they're going to do this gambit movie like i just think it's just going to be what the x-men were in the 90s on screen which might actually break cinema because there's just way too much of them to keep track of and it's over saturation and
Starting point is 00:25:27 all that stuff and so the the tail end of this movie is kind of awesome it's a great shot at the marvel stingers like that's that's specifically what it is and it's like it's parodying like the ferris bueller ending and you know he's like oh you're still here you know did you expect Sam Jackson to come out with an iPad, blah, blah, blah. But then he does just drop. He's like, Cable's going to be in the next movie. Which is fun. And then just like struts out of the way, you know, which
Starting point is 00:25:54 is cool. I'm into it. I mean, there was a series of Cable and Deadpool where Cable played the straight man to Deadpool and they like went on adventures, so that might be where they're kind of going with it. That's interesting. And so and is Cable a time traveler? I mean, the problem with Cable, everybody, is getting
Starting point is 00:26:10 him into one movie makes he Cyclops's son from an alternate future which Apocalypse destroys. Oh. So yeah. Like that takes a lot. And you're like, huh, wait, why? And like, he's older than Cyclops all the time. And you're like, hold my head hurts.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Please, Cable, you're making my head hurt. So they were saying one of the people that could possibly, or is even, I think, maybe personally lobbying to play it is Stephen Lang from Avatar. Oh, that's fun. It seems like it would work. Yeah. And he's a big gruff. He's a good actor.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I mean, that's kind of, that's what you needed in this movie because, like, that's what they try to give a colossus is that straight man thing. But it's just so terrible. Because you didn't bother to hire an actor. Yeah, exactly. There's nothing that I'm looking at because it's just a big shiny cartoon being your straight man. Plus this other little girl with a shaved head who's like kind of angry sometimes and can fart pink waves out or something. whatever happens in that movie so like i like i like i like i like i like i like the idea that there is that like there's a straight man funny man balance so like that like that could be totally
Starting point is 00:27:21 cool exactly and i think that the next movie honestly like just use 80s action tropes and put him in it and i'm fucking we're off to the races like yeah they do in this anyway like it's on a barge for no reason but like you know what it is it's like the end of a lethal weapon movie you're like wait what why are they on that barge sure you know like it's fine just don't have fucking Colossus power slam Gina Carano for no fucking reason. Yikes, that's stupid. It's just stupid. She's sort of like Ajax's
Starting point is 00:27:49 number one guy in the movie. Yeah, yeah, and she's as strong or if not strong and then Colossus. Oh, right. She's also had the mutant procedure. I forgot about that. Yeah, and she is a character. I forget what her name is, but whatever. You know what? It sounds like we'll be totally fine to not remember it. But there's a lot of that going on, which is
Starting point is 00:28:04 like so-and-so in-name only. Like, you know what I mean? Like... Oh, so it's not like the actual character, but it's like we're pretending it is. Yeah, which is the lesson you should have learned from Wolverine Origins. That isn't a good idea. Yeah, that's actually true. I'm trying to look up to see if the internet
Starting point is 00:28:20 ticker can tell me who she is. How does she not make... I don't understand the pages of IMDB. How is she not at the front of this? She's in the movie a ton. I also don't understand why, what her career is because Haywire is an amazing movie. And like, I would have watched
Starting point is 00:28:36 Haywire 2 through 5. You know what I mean? Oh, totally. I would have watched all of those I feel it was just a thing where, like, nobody saw that movie. She plays a character called Angel Dust. Yes, which is, I mean, she's a mutant because there's a million of them and, you know, you got to fill up X-Men comics. Yeah. So, whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:52 So, all right, so we've got Apocalypse is coming out this summer or like May or something like that. Super excited for that. Super-duber excited. So we're also supposedly getting like this Gambit movie is a thing. Is there another Wolverine coming? Did I make that up? That is coming at some point.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And that's supposed to be. like his last one which is going to be that's that's kind of the big question mark like you know what mean like i don't know he doesn't seem to be an apocalypse but he has to be almost that's what i was confused about he's on none of the advertising i'm staying away from the i mdb page because i just don't want to know but like if anything it's a small part maybe or something right how would he i mean at that point like after days of future past like wolverine is he's mixed up with the x-men and by the 1980s or whatever. No, no. Well, again, like, I don't know what the timeline, like,
Starting point is 00:29:43 the timeline, it's, we're in, uh, into darkness territory now. You know what I mean? Like literally Oh, oh, because, oh, right, that movie like reset the, like, canceled out that first trilogy? Yes. Well, and it, it, it, like, basically takes two and a half hours to undo, uh, X-Men, uh, three last end. Yeah. Oh, actually, why don't we just plug it right now, come in this summer for summer
Starting point is 00:30:09 Blockbuster, we're doing X-Men Days of Future or X-Men Last Stand as an episode. Kelsey Grammer. Oh, you get the point. But yeah, I mean, like that's, so who knows where they're going to go with it? I mean, honestly, if they're just like, do regular, because that was the thing that I was kind of getting bored with with both the first three X-Men movies
Starting point is 00:30:28 and the first-class movies. It's always Xavier and Magneto. And Magneto's in this, too, because it's Michael Fosbender. He does an amazing job. And, like, you're going to hold on to it. But the same thing with Ian McKellen did a great job, so you crammed him into movies. But there never was good secondary villains.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Or a good main villain for the story to take shape over, which it seems like what they're trying to do specifically with Apocalypse. And you can find new threats. And if that's the thing, is like every movie there's another threat, let's do it. Well, I mean, I'm sure I haven't really read a lot of X-Men comics, but I'm sure just like Superman, they've got a staple of unused villains. A hundred million.
Starting point is 00:31:04 You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Omega Red can show up. That'd be fun. Um, because like what, I mean, in that first singer trilogy, well, I guess the first two singer movies, you didn't do the third one. Um, thanks a lot. Brett Ratner. Brett Ratner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But like an X2, it's kind of Brian Cox. Yes. But then it turns into Magneto at the end. Like, Magneto is like basically double crosses Brian Cox or something. Oh, no, Magneto's going to end the world. And they stop him.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And then the third movie, it's Magneto again. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's true. Magneto, Magneto, Magneto. And it's like, Ian McKellen's amazing in those movies. And yes, you should probably be in all three of them. Oh, and they also do Phoenix in that last one. Stay tuned. but that's all fine but like just give me what the X-Men do and do it well right yeah no do please do it well
Starting point is 00:31:51 if anything please try to do it well and and Days Future Past does Sentinels which are awesome in that movie I think that's a fucking great movie that's up there is like all the sea of superhero movies like that's up there like way high Nolan territory
Starting point is 00:32:08 I agree yeah well so that's Deadpool Steve. I mean, if I had to give it a grade, I'd give it like a B-minus. Like, it's, I think it's admirable that it's raunchy. I also don't want them to get, like, the comedy works for Deadpool, period. Like, do not try and make X-Men movies funny because they shouldn't be. No, no, no, no, no. There could be humor, which there are in all those movies.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You know, Brian Singer knows how to put light touches in those movies to make them funny. Right. But, like, it worked once because of the exact circumstances. and because it was going against the grain to try and replicate that with other characters or shoehorn that into other characters. It's just going to come off as cynical and not funny. Also, because I know Channing Tatum can be very funny.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I don't need this Gambit movie to be funny. No. You know, I'm sure maybe they'll try to pepper something in, but like obviously I don't think it would go to the lengths of like a Looney Tunes Deadpool type thing, but like I don't need him constantly cracking jokes. I agree. You know, a nice like Hugh Jackman, Wolverine fuck off joke.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Like, that's all you need in a movie like Gambit. Agreed. What could a Gambit villain possibly be? I mean, does he just, I mean, I don't know what Gambit's solo adventures were like. I think it would be big. Is he fighting a robot version of Chef Paul Perdone? I was thinking like Big Daddy from the Simpsons. Lord, I wish I was so fat.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Oh, hello, Gambit. Oh, I guarantee. I mean, pretty much, right? Like, I mean, like, they've tried Gambit series. They've never worked. Like, they could only get like five or six to 12. issues and like he's a thief and like it's always like oh this job that happened 10 years ago remember that guy and then some cyborg shows up and he fights them it's yeah maybe a cybernetic
Starting point is 00:33:49 paul perdon might be fun or an emerald lagassee reptilian guy would be fun bam bam i'd like all that i mean so i guess we'll just have to wait and see if that movie ever comes out that's w hm on screen talking deadpool until next time i'm andrewing stephen steyta take it easy Thank you.

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