We Hate Movies - S6: WHM On-Screen: Game of Thrones Season 6

Episode Date: June 29, 2016

On this edition of WHM On-Screen the guys take a look back at the explosive sixth season of HBO's Game of Thrones! It should go without saying that this episode contains a massive, massive, massive amount of spoilers and that you should not listen until you're fully caught up with season six in its entirety. And hey, put your tweets down, Eric, Steve, and Andrew don't sit around ripping on the show in this episode--they're all fans (to varying degrees)!Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to a very special W.HM on screen, everybody. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Steven Sadek and Eric Siska. We're here talking about the sixth season. of the popular HBO show Game of Thrones. Now we have a little bit of degrees of knowledge. This is going to be weird. It's going to be weird. We're taking this for a test run.

We'll see what happens. So long story short, Eric is like the Game of Thrones head in the room. You've read the books. I read all the books. I read the Duncan Egg novellas. I'm well-versed. Ooh, what are those like side stories?

Yeah, they take a place about 100 years before. Or the events of Game of Thrones. So I could tell you what the Three-Eyed Raven was up to back then. It was pretty badass. Is it canon? Yes, it's canon. Oh, my God. Pardon me.

Have you been... It's George R. Martin. Oh, well, I thought you just said... Who was this other person you just said? Dunkin Egg? Yeah. That's... Well, yeah.

Oh. It's now collected in a group of stories called a Night of the Seven Kingdoms or... Yeah, something like that. It's about a hedge knight kind of... you know, coming up from being a commoner. And the three-eyed raven is in it as Lord Blood Raven. Oh, pretty cool. Have you been to the Bayonne deli that inspired Game of Thrones or?

Well, yes, I ordered the very same hoagie. He got the day he came up with the name Tiri and Lanister. He's like, ah, you got to be a fucking king to be served here. Wait a minute. All right, I'll get one song of fire and ice on a wedge. Large Diet Coke, thank you. Now, Steve Zadak has not read any of the books. And House of Black and White Cookies.

And Steve Zadak, of course, has not read the books, but you are up to date on the show. I've watched every episode. I've enjoyed most of them. I'm like a, I'm mostly all in on the Game of Thrones. and actually the last two really kind of dragged me to the right where I needed to be. But you get a little lost sometimes. I'm going to get a lot of things wrong. And I got so lost at the end of season four

that I died in the woods. And I stopped watching the show. But to participate in this, I watched the last two episodes of season six. Right. So you haven't seen season five. No. So you didn't have to see that insufferable Dorn storyline.

Snor. Snorne, more like. Yeah, exactly. Michael snorn. We want snores? Camille and Johnny I had a pretty good joke about Dorn. He said the entirety of Dorn is one big patio, which is kind of true. Yeah, they did not spend money on them.

But you did go, you watched the last two episodes, which I do believe, which is kind of, I think they're going to be the thrust of the episode because that's what you watch and that's what we all just watched. Probably the best two episodes stretch that they've ever had. most TV shows ever. I should specify, by the way, that I've seen all of season one through four. So I just stopped at five and kind of just fell off two or six. Yeah, that happens.

I watched too much TV, so something had to get cut. Sure. But it's not that I dislike this. It's that I had a hard time following it. Sure. I feel like if I had a laminated menu that just sort of like, just kept reminding me of who was what

and who's going where, you know. I also, I was telling you this before we went on the air. I started this show in the worst way possible, which was like, oh man, look at this. They're looking for dragons and fighting people. Sounds like a great tall glass of water

program. No, no, no. The fucking first two seasons are a real haze, man. We take Game of Thrones very seriously in my house. Sure. It's very like, this is the show you turn the light off for and you get down and you shut the fuck up and you watch the goddamn show.

Are you talking to your cat at this point? Listen, you cat, you're getting locked in the fucking bathroom till these credits it. No mouth it off. I'm not going to get your treats that way. So, yeah, I mean, Battle of the Bastards was really awesome. It's awesome. And I'll tell you what, the whole John Snow struggle, that was easy to pick right back up on. Oh, sure.

You know, that was like, oh, he's still trying to, okay, that's cool. And we do get the revelation in the, I guess the finale, that he is a Targaryen. Yes. You know, the popular fan theory, which has not been done in the books yet, because where the books leave off, John Snow is stabbed the death by the

night's watch, and that's the end of it. Oh, so not, they haven't even covered this resurrection. No, but everyone basically online has predicted exactly what would happen, and it's been very satisfying to see the show do what you think would happen, because it's great

to, you know, just thinking about the rest of the books and the rest of the show and it's like if i had to endure another sad horrible twist like like another battle of the bat yeah yeah if the bolton's win it's just like oh how can i get going on it was it was and me people are some people calling the fan service i agree with you i am just so happy to see some a we're getting close to an ending which is really nice it's like it felt like we're we're getting we're zeroing in on something it's got to go up eventually you can't just keep going down but what i was saying is the uh the the the Leanna Stark.

Now, right. Pretend that I'm an idiot. Leanna Stark is... Here comes Eric's best acting. This is... This is Ned Stark's sister who was betrothed to Robert Barathean

and sort of helps start the war that would eventually overthrow the mad king. Robert Barathean. and Mark Addy. Yep. Gotcha. Okay. Right.

And... Just want to make sure I'm following a lot. Killed hunting a stag he was. Well, a boar killed him. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Read a fucking book. Yeah.

Why don't you read a fucking 2,000 page book already? So, shit. Okay. So, Ragar Targaryen is like this cool prince, man, right? Yeah. You know, he's like a singer-songwriter. He's like the Chris Christopherson of Westeros. And, and, uh,

Robert Targaryens is the Chris Christie of Westeros. I'll have a song of fire and ice on a hoagie. Oh, Gerger Aramontan, that fucking nerd. Oh, man, Chris Christie bullied George R.R. Martin in high school. Guarantee. Easily. Hey, George R. Martin, born in the USA. So the official storyline, I guess, is that, you know,

what it was thought to be was that Rhaegar, kidnaps the Stark girl, rapes her, and sort of starts off this whole thing. Ned Stark's, like, father and brother, I think, go to complain to the Mad King. That's when he burns one of them in their suits of armor. Like, they get killed for, and it sort of rallies Stark to the cause to, to overthrow the Targaryen. So it's like the action that, like, politicizes Sean Bean to, like, get in the mix. The Archduke, Duke Ferdinand of that. situation. So, but, but, but the, basically what's sort of coming to light that might be coming

in light is that, uh, Rhaegar Targaryen just romanced her away. And it was a more of a love story because there was a tournament that they all participated in and like Ragar instead of giving like his, his, his, his, his favor to, um, his future wife, which was a Martel, who the mountain ended up raping and murdering and then killing her children as well. And then he, Then he does the crush to Oberon there. Oh, like, your sister. I killed your son. Oh, I remember that.

Right. So now we got a confirmation that John is the son of Lianna Stark and Rhaegar Targary. That we don't, though, because we get the Lost in Translation Whisper, which is a right. That is very, but I feel like that's just being very true to the books because in the books during that whole like, Power of Joy sequence, it's basically the same thing. Oh, no, no, but isn't, wait a second, I'm sorry. And, you know, I understand. I know this is getting really stupid.

No, no, no, no, no. But doesn't, at the end of the season finale, so I guess we're talking about TV show now and not the books. Doesn't when that little kid stands up and he's like, you should all be kissing John Snow's boots? That's a girl, by the way. Oh, is it? Yes. I don't know. Look, two episodes.

you want for me you're fine you're fine all right but so she's all like yeah more money i don't give his shit because um uh this dude's got like ned stark's blood running through him and whatnot so at least she thinks anyways every yeah no one no one really knows this but when they when they do the you know they they brown goes back they show the tower of joy sequence they have the baby's face and then it cuts to john yeah that baby actor by the way has adult face that's terrifying You ever seen a baby with like adult face? Jesus, you can't even look at it.

And then at the end... But also to go further on, prove who the father was, Steve, even though I know you got the Lost in Translation whispers. Ned Stark... Sounds like a bad case of diarrhea. Oh, you got the Lost in Translation whispers. Sorry. Ned Stark and Howland Reed as younger men defeat

Arthur Dane, the Sword of the Morning, who is part of the Tariff. Targaryen Kingsguard, but Rhaegar Targaryen already died on the Trident killed by Robert Barathean in battle. So why are they, why, why is the Targaryen Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy? It's because John is a legitimate heir to the throne. Which is fair, which is good. And correct me if I'm wrong, Calisi is a Targaryen. That's right.

Generis Targaryen. She is the sister of Rhaegar, so that makes her. John's aunt. And this this is where it gets interesting. Hey everybody. Things are getting juicy. Targaryans like to keep their bloodline pure so they're the only house that is sort of allowed to intermarry. So Danny and John are going to fuck. Get ready.

Well they at the end. It's like ice and fires. I'm going at it. At the end of the season they're like screaming King in the North, King of the North. Like that's a good thing. But that's like being the AFC champion in 19. The Buffalo Bills aren't going to make it. Like, last King of the North didn't work out too well. You'll notice in, I think, the finale episode, Danny, when she's leaving Dario and the seven sons or whatever, the second sons to guard Marine,

she says that once she gets to Westeros, she'll probably have to marry it into some noble house. So I think, obviously, John's going to take over all the North, and then she's going to take over the seven. and to unite the kingdoms they'll get married to have peace. Because they're both practical people. I noticed that...

John's looking for it, man. John, you know, he's been dead for a while. He thought he was going to have sex with Melisandra. Steered clear of that disaster, by the way. She's a wicked witch. Oh, the lady in red? Yeah. You missed an episode, by the way, Andrew.

At the end of one... Yeah. That's the first... The season premiere of season six. It's before she brings back John Snow. She's the one who brings back John Snow. She takes off her necklace. We got some shiny.

She's a secret old lady nudity. She's a secret old lady underneath that necklace, dude. Oh, no. Yeah, man. It's like her glamour, the spell that makes her...

Bathtub lady. I mean, you see everything. Yikes. Yeah, she can change appearance. Although in the books, I don't think she's revealed to be an old lady, at least not yet,

but it makes sense. In the books, Mance Radar is still alive who was burned by Stannis after the Wildling surrender. They burned someone in his place and she uses, like, magic to make him

look like a different person. So it's sort of kind of set up. I mean, the thing is, I'm super excited. Like, you know, Danny on the boat. I'm all in on it. I'm super excited. The King of the North. We don't know what Sons is up to.

There's kind of a little at the end. She's not saying King of the North quite so much. That fucking Littlefinger, man. He got in her goddamn redhead. I mean, she's kissed by fire. I mean, she's a redheaded person. Yeah, no, I know. And he's all like getting in there.

He's like, are you sure you're cool with this because that should be yours what are you doing right she's like laurlini at the end of Mystic River I pray to God that Sansa after all she's been through and you know with the Ramsey stuff and all the and how

Little Finger basically sold her into that marriage without her consent that Sansa next season open the fucking show with her killing Little Finger Little Finger why would you kill me my accent is good man hi he is just

finger. He's choking back that Irish accent with all he can on the show. He's actually good. I like him a lot. He's a great actor. Baylish needs to die because all he does is metal and that in the main, like he controls the veil. Huge thing.

You know, he saves the day by coming in there at the Battle of the Bastards. All he does is metal. You're really hoping he like goes acoustic on his next one? A real stone sour term. This is something from my early period. Something. Yeah. Go to to get back to the Chris Christopherson

Rhaegar vibe we used to have but he's he's going to he spoils whatever he's around like he's always out for himself right so there's no room for that but I do think that actually I'm curious because that's what I was getting at was like

that's the stuff I'm interested in is that the grand dance as we call it and once we get into ice zombies and whatever the fuck Melisandra is up to I'm a little less interested to be quite honest. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm digging brand as, you know, whatever, the green seer, the green seer, the three-eyed raven, that's kind of cool. But like the, the Knight King and just, it's not the

Harryhausen thing. It just, it hasn't gotten me yet. I, I, I dig it. And funny enough, the, the, the books actually open with the White Walkers. I mean, and the show does, too. Oh, yeah, you're right. The show ends with it. So it's like the first episode, it ends with that. And like, I kind of get it as a metaphor like you know like you have all this political fucking chum going around and being churned over and turned over and then the sins come back and get you you know what I mean like that

you know you might not be there's so much going on on the show there's certain elements you might not be as hooked on but the show the show and the books are so brilliant that they take this medieval fantasy setting and bring in time travel bring in zombies bring in the Pelican brief

they bring in Jonathan Price man he gets a fucking mouthful of green fire in that episode oh man when they light up the mutagen at the end of that holy shit that that sequence is amazing like just the start of that episode with the music and you know

shit's going down you know what I mean they light up the cache of wildfire that supposedly the Mad King had placed all throughout under the city and I believe that's why Jamie Lannister killed him to not blow up the city now this was the same

gobbledy gook that they used at the Battle of Blackwater is it? Yes, correct. Okay. Yeah, I thought it looked familiar. Which is kind of weird. Like, like, Sonsa, I'm very interested in what the hell Jamie's going to do next season. I kind of feel like just for show dynamics, he's going to have to be with Searcy for a little while. Like, I can't, I believe he's right there. Not everybody can be a good guy. He's not going to like what Searcy did. He's going to be very conflicted. I think he will... It's a false flag operation, man. It's kind of what it is. Well, it's sort of like he just, like, Jamie's arc in the, you know,

and especially, I guess, in the show now, he's been trying to get his honor back in a lot of ways. He's been helping Brianne. He brings back River Run into the fold without killing anyone. Like, he's trying to be a negotiator, trying to be a better man than he used to be. Although he does threaten to put babies on catapults, which I appreciate. Well, you know, you've got to have a harsh language. I guess you have to.

He speaks softly and carry a big baby. Right. He's becoming more like Tywin, you know. but in a very interesting and a good way. But he's not going to like that Searcy did what he destroyed his honor for to begin with. I agree. He's going to kill Searcy, my prediction. Then he'll be the king and queen slayer.

Oh, shit. I do think, though, like the show could have done a better job of showing whatever. Like, there's only so many minutes in that thing. And it's a really good, it's a great episode and we see all this stuff. We don't really see, like, the, the, the cast. casualty of it. Like, you see all those people light up and Natalie Dormer died, which is a big deal. Yeah, she's gone, huh?

But you don't, and you see, like, you see one dude get clipped by a bell, but you don't really see. Oh, dude, that guy is the Game of Thrones equivalent to Titanic's propeller guy. Holy shit, that dude is taken out by that loose bell. Propeller guy was my favorite part of that movie. A bell guy's my favorite, but like, you don't see, like, a lot of people. You don't really know what the town The city of Kings Landing thinks about what Circe did

Everyone's kind of falling into line Because she's dressed like the devil at the end of that episode They all I mean they're all hip to it Like they definitely know that it was her That's you we don't know I guess we don't know But the thing is they didn't like her to begin with

Yeah shame Exactly everyone saw that That son knew though he fucking threw himself out that window Otoman knew what was going on That was right that was her other kid That was like Joffrey's younger brother. All of her kids are dead. That's why she's able to take the throne because she's the last living member of the moral family.

Yeah, she seemed cool with it. Which is kind of also kind of weird. That's her thing is like, oh, I fuck my brother and I love my kids. You know, like like, you know, like anyone. But apparently the High Garden, the Tyrells were basically the food, it's basically the food supply for Kings Landing. So you're going to have revolts eventually. Yeah. I mean, you're not, I mean, yeah, they're going to starve her out because she's been broke.

And House Lannister is broke. The gold is gone, basically. When's the Iron Bank showing back up, man? When is Sally Mae getting on a boat and telling this lady that, dude, she cannot have a house? That is a good point. That is something that they sort of just stopped talking about in the show. Yeah. In the books, there's actually one of the guys from Bravo's, one of the bankers that's like riding around Westeros going up to Stannis being like, hey, you got these loan payments.

and that's like an element actually once Theon and Sansa well not Sansa in the book it's it's someone else Poole I think her last name is I forget her first name Gian Poole maybe

Mrs. Poole from the Hogan family Oh I knew she was showing up When she jumps the battlements Winterfell Oh he's sticking her nose In other people's business Yeah the banker basically gives him a ride To Stannis

Well I feel like that's like George RR at the deli And they're like sorry bro God's declined. And he's like, oh, that fucking iron banked. I'm going to write them, I'm going to write them

right into this thing. I've got a problem with the iron bank myself. Who likes the iron bank? Now, having been away from the program for a little bit, coming back into these last two episodes. Sure.

I noticed a couple people were missing. Okay. So I have some questions about the status of some people. Barrett Dardarian, live and well. Who? Exactly. Go on.

Now, let's start with Brom's party. I know that Hodor's gone. Oh, Hodor. He's holding that door. That was a great episode. I used the internet that day, and I heard all about hold the door. Hold the door! Hold the door!

He kind of turns out of the J.R. Would that happen? It does. I loved it. My God, that door is dead. Call that door's mama. He ain't coming home to night. That hasn't been done of the books yet either, but it was really nice.

The whole hold the door. Yeah. The brand does stone cold stun Hodor's brain there for the rest of his life. I love it. It's a very cool thing. So Hodor was like, what, pick to death by crows or something? What happened? The Skellington's got them.

Yeah. Whites. Not White walkers, white. I don't know. There's white walkers which are like their own people, basically. And then there's Skellingtons. I see. So a bunch of Skellington's got them.

Gotcha. Now, as I recall, there was another member of that party, the little red-headed kid from Love Actually. What happened to that kid? Is that Rickon? I think you're thinking of Joe Jen Reed. That went up with Braun to the... Oh, right. That kid.

He got stabbed the death by Skellingtons. Oh, man. These Skellingtons are a real problem. What about the tall night lady from Star Wars? Brianne is... She's just kind of on a boat in like two episodes back. She went down to River Run to try to rally Tully Forces behind House Stark Snow. Some of those boats are a little faster than others.

Varus was going up and down, Dorn, man. Dude, man, it's ridiculous. Like, the fact, the, you know, the trips are all over the place. Yeah. So basically your last episode here is taking place over months. Sure. Because, like, Aria getting all the way back to not only Westeros, but going all the way to the twins.

Oh, man. Great scene. Her fucking cut the throat of that Harry Potter janitor, by the way. That was awesome. Well, that guy really deserved it. But the funny thing is, like, so she spends all season, like, summering and, like, learning about this crazy religion of the faceless god,

which is how you morphed it, the Shang-sung code. Oh, I noticed she Mission Impossible at the end of that there. Which is cool, and it's awesome. But, like, she kind of fails. And, like, just kind of, she takes all the good stuff and leaves the religion at the door. Basically, Aria Stark is American Chalin. She is exactly American Chalin. She goes to the monastery, learns all the cool kung fu stuff, and then goes back home and wins all these awesome competitions.

Forgetting about all the honor of what that was. You are missing an awesome little kid fight between her and this other girl and through the city where they're running. Like, it's like a Terminator fight, dude. Like, this girl keeps coming. She gets, Aria gets stabbed in the gut a ton of tons of times. Hey now. Yeah, and she has to be nursed to health. And that's why she's baking up that other dude in a pie, which is pretty dope.

Which is pretty cool. Which is also, in the books, she doesn't put phrase in pies, but Lord Manderly, who is actually the plump gentleman with the long hair and goatee who first does the King of the North in the show. In the books, he controls White Harbor, which is a big town. It's like the beach town. Yeah, there are some fray envoys that end up there and, you know, they meet, they leave. He secretly kidnaps them and cooks them in pies and feeds him at the Bolton wedding to other frays. Now, speaking of Aria Stark, by the way. Here's a question.

Are you finishing that pie if it's pretty good? Do you know the score? If you know it's your son? The answers don't. But you know when you have one good bite left and you're like, looking. looking forward to it. And you're like, uh,

if I'm not throwing up. Yeah, possibly. Okay. All right. Now, speaking of Aria Stark, the hound?

He's alive. Is he? Yes, he got brought back. Wait, so he was, yeah. Murder?

No, no, no, no. He was, um, he was left for dead. Oh, oh,

right. He like falls off the cliff or whatever. Brienne kills him almost. Right. He's like, he's like, he's dying. And then Ariya's there and.

He begs for, death at that point. And she doesn't give it to him. But she assumes she dies. She's like walking away and whatnot. Yeah. So what happens there is in this season, he's basically been nursed back to health by a religious sect that followed the seven, led by brother Ray, who's played by Ian McShane in the books. It's September. I thought that was Dan Aykroyd. Gozer to the guys are? Stanis Barathean

Pressing his name? Brother Randall's Brother Ray's a cult bookshop But In the book, it's Sept and Marybald And it's much better And it's like these former warriors

That became religious After falling out of so many battles That was kind of a bummer for me was the Ian McShane thing because he's awesome He's one and done He's instantly hung Oh seriously

He's in one episode You do get to see a nice Ian McShane corpse Which you know Like that I was sure Did it a little bit for me But he leaves a beautiful corpse I bet Yeah I mean

I would have gotten that In 10 15 years anyway The hound is kind of like They need to figure out What to do with the hound I guess he's with the brothers Without Banner He's gonna go up north

And fight some zombies Which is gonna be cool But I'm just sort of I'm sure where he's going, what he's trying to do, how he's going to figure into the events. He's got to fight the mountains. I hope so. I hope so.

That's what online. Oh, he's got beef with the mountain? They're brothers. Their brothers, yeah. They're Kane and the Undertaker almost exactly. Yeah, that's pretty cool. The hound, Sandor, Klegain, has half a burned face because his brother put his face in the fire. Oh.

Yeah, the mountain. And the mountain was pretty fucked up looking. He's Frankenstein at this point. He died. Yeah, he's Jason Voorhees. Oh, shit. He's brought back to life. Through mad science by Quiber and the dark maister and now Master of Whisper.

I mean, can we talk about the little kids killing Mark Donovan? That's pretty awesome. So, yeah, I didn't know anything that was going on there. I kind of thought I was watching a David Cronenberg movie for a second. I mean, and also, you know what, dude, maybe time will tell. But if 10 little kids with knives are coming at me, three little kids have broken necks. sorry, you know, at least three, because I'm just chokeslamming kids, you know? Yeah, and they're the little birds.

They're like the people that spy around the city and find out what the scuttlebutt is. They used to be varus? They were varices. And actually in the book, I believe it's Veris who has Paisal killed and Kevin Lannister, who in... Kevin, sorry. Kevin Lannister. He's been a character for like two seasons. Who is he?

I saw his name listed in the Christmas. credits and I was like, I hope that's pronounced Kavan. Are they calling him Kevin? I don't remember. Because that's pretty... Kevin! So, he is

Tywin's brother, I believe, and he takes control. Okay. Oh, the guy who he blows up in it. He dies at the septum. That's right. He was the hand for a little bit. Yes. Not short-lived hand. He was shutting out Circe because she's terrible.

Because she's walking around with a Frankenstein monster. I'm like, hey, this is who is escorting me to the Oscars. It's like, yeah, you don't get to intimidate the small council anymore, Cursi. Yeah. But, and I think what's her, this is, I'm really excited to fight. Because I do think that, like, I was really a happy to, I'm a surcey Lanster fan. I like the character. I think that, and I'm glad that she's kind of leaning full into supervillain at this point.

Yes. And, like, we're going to, like, because she's been relegated to the sidelines a lot in the last couple of seasons. rightfully so i mean like yeah and it builds up that motivation for her to come back as you know this evil queen it was her master stroke you know she was like you knew she took out all the opposition in one day it's brilliant and you knew she was waiting for something you didn't think it was going to be this big i mean most people knew the wildfire they kind of set that up quite a bit but like you you see it happen you're like oh wow well done yeah hey lady well done well played yeah no that was awesome um so here's something that was quite a surprise a pleasant surprise in the

Battle of the Bastards. What's with this Giant? Oh, the 0-1-1, man. Yeah, he was, I believe he's the last of the Giants. Fuck. They could fight another giant. Dude, that's the problem with Giants, man. They're always this close to being extinct when you meet him in a story. It's always like, well, I'm

the last of my kind. Really? Why can't we meet like a fucking town of Giants, man? There were like three or four, but the Knights Watch killed them when they were attacking the wall. Oh, so they're like inherently bad? No, they were just free folk. Oh, you mean wildlings there?

Yes, yes, yes. They lived beyond the wall and they didn't meddle in the games of man that much, I guess. To your point, I really love the, finally the Ramsey Bolton, like, let's just fucking kill this guy already. This dude was not a character that I knew, but this actor seems awesome playing Ramsey

Bramsey Bolton here. He's the bad guy. He's the one that cuts what's his face dick off. Oh, was he? Oh, so I have seen him before, okay. Yeah, his face gets turned into a hamburger at the end of that episode. Johnson knows it ground and pound. I was

expecting Sonsa, because she's standing right next to it watching it. I thought it was going to be the end of Nymphomaniac too. I thought she was going to piss on his head. Because that's what happens in the end of Nymphomaniac. Someone gets beaten up, and as the final humiliation gets pissed on. Or at least bash him in the face with a

sock full of quarters. Something like that. But then... You mean a sock full of silver stags? Yes, that is what I meant. Okay. But then the dogs are pretty awesome. Oh, man. Those hungry dogs, dude.

That's a great scene. And you really see it happen a little bit. Don't tell me it didn't happen. I saw that. Well, what's great is that dog, the dog, and it's a computer dog. Sure, of course. So you can't really, you know. It's kind of a Hulk dog a little bit.

It is. You can't compliment the dog acting in this situation. But this dog is definitely like, like, lick in his face at first. Like, am I going to eat that? dude. I'm really hungry. Yeah, let's bite his fucking throat out right now. It's awesome, man. It was good. I almost

I mean, I almost wanted ghosts to do it. Just so I feel like the show has been so bad with the dire wolves. Yeah, come on. Are we done to one? Is ghost the last one? Ghost is supposedly with John. I haven't seen

him with John in a long time. But there's also Arias, Nymeria, who ran away. Oh, right. In the books, it's alluded to that this dire wolf is roaming the riverlands. Because remember at this point, like, there's so many corpses everywhere from all these wars. That this dire wolf's leading a pack of wolves that are like over a hundred of them. Oh, that's so cool.

And they're roaming around eating things. And eventually maybe. Wolf farming? Yes. Yes. And also, there's theories, you know, maybe all the stark children can warg. So maybe... That's when you go into an animal?

Yes. So Aria could potentially command a wolf farming is a theory. I want to see... And I want the Stark family Christmas. You know what I mean? I really want it to finally happen. I want everyone to get back together. Yes.

And let's get in a room. Or maybe we even do... Oh, you know, it would be great. At the end of all of Game of Thrones that ends, you know, probably John and Danny are king and queen. Maybe we even get a end of Return of the Jedi. everyone looks at the camera you're a force ghost

for a thousand people thousands of forest ghosts behind them but like I want like it's the the end of Godfather two where like they have that last scene where it's Christmas and dad's coming home oh yeah and we couldn't get Marlon

Brando so we're just going to have James Con meet him at the door off camera but like it's that and everybody's back and maybe it's like a fun but I guess it wouldn't work because everyone, like, everyone went through puberty on that show, except for, like, John Snow, essentially. It sounded like John Snow, Kit Harrington was, like, using a different voice. He's gotten a little bit deeper in his older age. Like, he's a little bit more raucous.

Yeah, yeah, I don't know. He's a little more badass in these recent episodes I watched. Yeah, he's becoming a man. I like that, John Snow. I like, uh, I like the end of, uh, do you think that for the reason Return of the Jedi ends with everyone saying goodbye to everyone is. because Lucas was upset that no one said goodbye to anyone at the end of Empire Strikes Back. Our movie has to say goodbye to you.

I didn't know it was the end of the movie. It was pretty rude to just look at that galaxy with your droid nearby and that bait. And you're not even facing the audience. I was pretty bummed out about that. Just turn around and give a little wave. Would it kill you? You know, they're paying good money for these movies, guys.

I mean, a little how-do you do can go a long way. Goodbye movie. Now, what is it the deal, by the way? Last time I saw Theon Grayjoy, he was a sputtering mess. He seemed to be pretty with it these days. Did he go to rehab? He's back with that sister. He accidentally molested.

Yara's been trying to talk him up into being a person again. Because basically, he escapes Ramsey. He helps Sonsa escape Ramsey, actually. Oh, okay. And that, like, kind of gets his mojo going. in a little bit. He stops being reek. Finally. A reek, that's what it was.

Yeah. Weird. So, yeah, then he decides to go back to the Iron Islands, which seems like a stupid idea. And then they steal all those boats during that religious ceremony, which is kind of hilarious. The king's mood, which they do not succeed in, and Yuron, the crow's eye,

is granted the king of the seastone chair. It's kind of like the end of Fahrenheit 451, where it's like, all right now. You losers, now I'm going to be king and I'm going to eventually murder you but I'm going to go away for about an hour to do this religious ceremony but you be right there

and I'm going to kill you I swear to God oh no they took all the boats they're God it's like oh fuck yeah they steal a hundred boats and take them to Danny out in Marine are those the boats that are floating there at the end of the season yeah some of them

some of them are captured slaver's navy that you know the dragon the dragon destroys one boat maybe two that was awesome oh yeah that is part of that episode right that first scene oh man those dragons just taking that boat to task that was pretty awesome god it's fucking great you know who i love on the show by the way and he's like not a big character i guess but um torment giants bane yes he's the big norwegian actor the red-headed dude was he a former wildling yes i mean he is a wild he's the free folk it's not a little and polite you say Oh, is that like a slur in that world?

It's kind of a slur. It's a restorosi slur for them. Oh, interesting. They prefer free folk, but hey, what are you going to do? But he's like running with John Snow and that giant. Right. That's what my dad called him, okay? You know what?

That's how I learned. Right. John Snow commands a wildling army, which is also why some of the northern houses were reluctant to back him because they've been basically fighting their entire lives, their entire family's lives to keep these people out, right? Yeah. You know, got to either have a border.

either have a Westeros or you don't, all right? You got to build a wall. Let's talk about what everybody wants to talk about. That fucking library that Sam goes to, man. Ooh, boy, what a library. Well, it's called the Citadel. And it's a big deal. Here's the thing about that library.

At a certain point, it makes a little bit of sense to have two libraries. You know what? I mean, like, if it's a 30-story, like, you know what? Let's get A through L in one library and get M- through Z in the next. Well, what is? I mean, is this like a history of their people? people kind of a thing or is it like are you renting fiction serious this is the one college basically uh-huh and this is where the maesters ford their forge their chains which is basically

you know each advanced degree they earn so this and refrigerator repair heating and cooling electrician a lot of people are illiterate obviously even davos was illiterate restaurant management until chereen teaches him how to read and then gets burned alive for her efforts yikes yeah the little girl gets burned oh that's what that dude's

yelling about there at the end I'm kind of surprised davos wasn't like oh fucking she outside the ball yeah yeah john snow's banishing you I'm gonna oh john I gotta go get some bread I'm gonna go down the road to get some bread yeah just like just catch her like right

when she's gonna get in that boat and just do it well you know there was a fan theory about what was gonna happen with with once davos finds this out And it was pretty cool because now, John's, you know, there's a prophecy about Azar as high or whatever the fuck. And it's like the mythical figure that's going to defeat the White Walkers eventually. And he prophesized to have this magic sword that's called Lightbringer.

So some people theorized that John Snow was going to cut Melisand's head the fuck off. Oh, nice. And that her red god power would go into Longclaw, the valerian steel sword and it will go on fire and it would become uh light bringer which is the name of the the sword which is and that sounds awesome and i kind of wish that happened do we think georgia r is like sitting and stewing is he because i mean like bennyoff and weiss have like have basic like crib notes for

some of this stuff but they they're making up most of it basically right i think hold the door is from that's a real deal And I'm sure Ramsey's going to die in a different way. But I think the broad strokes were we have to go towards this type of conclusion. So I think some of this will happen, but we probably won't read it in a book for another 20 fucking years. Well, you know, when you're when the shore is beautiful, Eric, if you've ever been down to the Jersey Shore, it's going. It's easy to get distracted down. He lives in New Mexico now.

Oh, really? Oh, by Santa Fe. Oh, shit. They definitely don't call them wedges down there. Now let me ask you this Because I haven't tried to read any of them But what I did try to read one time Was Fellowship of the Rings

It's totally different And I almost fucking died You know Just because there's a lot of like Now you're gonna read these song lyrics And look at this map And I'm like There are a couple of song lyrics and maps

In these books But most of it is very breezy The writing is very breezy It doesn't really feel like Like some books you're like all right I'm getting through this I'm trying to understand it just it really does go by I bought the set for my wife

as a gift and I was like good luck with that I'm never reading that shit because it's so long I could never imagine me reading it after like two or three seasons of the show I started reading it and well I fell in love there you got dude you never know but it's gonna tickle you just

right there is you know they say cock and another C word there's it's it's just as filthy as the show so it's It's fun. Tolkien doesn't say No.

Someone's from New Jersey and someone's a religious scholar from England. Yes. So predictions for season seven premiere? We got a whole year to talk about it. I do think that they're, are we solidified on the two short seasons? Or is that just the rumor right now?

Oh, are they pulling a sopranos with this shit? Well, they're talking about doing two seasons of six episodes each instead of 10. I don't know what's going to happen. We'll see. But, I mean, I think that we're probably, I mean, they can't, unless, like, what I'm hoping is we end with Danny on the boat.

We can't spend a whole lot of time with, before we get to the siege. She's landing, I mean. She's got to go to King's Landing, right? Yeah, she will first go to Dragonstone, which was the seat of Targaryans in Westeros besides King's Landing. Uh-huh. You know, that Stannis lived at after they killed all the Targary.

So she'll take that back from whatever five people stand us off there. And then she'll have to attack. I mean, and I hope it happens pretty quickly. I mean, not that I would say, action, action, but I just want. I'm predicting that like that next season, Westeros has conquered, you know, maybe John and Danny hookup or whatever. And then maybe the next season is just all about the White Walkers. Because obviously, okay, now, I'm surprised it didn't happen this season. But next season, I think for sure the whole wall is coming down.

Oh, yeah, that's the one, right? Because the wall is magic and it keeps them out. Right. And there's supposedly, there's been talk of some type of horn that exists beyond the wall that would bring down the wall. So there was talk. Play like the brown note and it falls down. Exactly. The wall shits its pants and it all falls down.

you know, apparently, like, the wildlings might have had it, but they didn't, I don't know. You know what, dude, don't, not to be a dick, but Uncle Benjin, why don't you leave me, I know that, I know you got to go. I know you're really busy and, you know, the magic is keeping you out. Why don't you drop me off a little close to that wall? By the way, I can't walk. Thanks for taking the horse. You know, thanks for leaving me in this 13-year-old girl in the snow outside, like, two miles from where we need to go. Well, he's got to touch that smiling tree or whatever.

We've got to learn some stuff. I love that character in the books called Cold Hands and you never find out who he is. I mean, you think it's going to be Benjin. That's the thing is the TV show just like every nuance in the book, they just rip right out and instantly give you what the reveal is, which is fine. It's a TV show. Well, they don't have a thousand pages. You know, they got 10 hours. Yeah, Cold Hands in the books, you know, Uncle Benjin rides like a giant elk.

It was kind of cool to have him riding something with big. horns. It would have been better than just that horse. And he could have left it for, uh, yeah, for brand. Come on. Like, dude. Dude cannot walk. Yeah.

You got a perfectly good pair of dead legs, Uncle Benjamin. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, like, again, the Christmas thing, but I do. He would be the legitimate. That's what I want. I mean, like, I really like that John and son sit together. And it's like, that's what this season was to me. That's why I liked so much of it is like, like, I felt like, I felt like,

we went so far away from we expanded expanded expanded like as much as we could and everyone's going off on the that people are the books too is it kind of meanders like fuck and you get stannis who just kind of comes to nothing you know what i mean still alive in the books yeah we'll see well he's definitely going to dot well everybody but now we're kind of getting back and that now now you know we've taken back winterfell now they're living together and things are going on aria's finally back in an area that matters to be quite honest so do they all right so do they Not to be racist or anything like that, but do they all think that Braun is dead? Yes, I believe so.

Well, the thing is they, Theon told Sansa that they didn't actually kill. Bran and Rickon. Right, but now we found Rickon and he's dead. I think Braun's just missing and assumed dead. But the thing is, when Braun comes back to Winterfeld, he's the legitimate head. That's his house, right? He's the legitimate head of House Stark then. Yes, he's the heir parent, although he probably can't fuck.

I don't know. maybe he can fuck he can go inside of a bear or a big burly dude and then he can fuck you can work fuck people dude it's like demolition man

can you inhabit a person he can inhabits hodor a few times and that's kind of and he in one of his flashbacks in time he basically does it

then and it fucks with everything and that's why hodor goes crazy yeah yeah exactly kind of make him go crazy oh man influencing the past huh yeah

why don't you influence went back to like Ned Stark not getting murdered. Yeah, there's been, there's actually theories about, because apparently God damn, we're, I know we're talking about this really in depth here, but

there's a theory that like maybe even Brown goes back in time and is responsible for the building of the wall. Oh, because it was built by Brandon, the builder, and old man who used to tell them stories at Winterfeld when they were kids, mentioned something about

like how every brand start it seems the same to her like there's so there's sort of weird I'm interested what maybe we do X-Men Days of Future Past and like at the end of the series oh never happened yeah like I love it like basically

he basically just tells his dad not to go to Winterfield not to go to King Fland fucking weird that'd be like the Tommy Westfall universe or something yeah it's just like oh yeah hey dad don't do that that would be a great opening for the show

then it's like the little map and all the wood knickknacks are doing their thing but it's all inside of snow globe so you're saying okay so Ned's he tells Ned Stark never to King's Landing yeah so that would mean the small council and Robert Barathian would order the assassination

of Danny so she'd die pretty quick yeah exactly that's the whole show harmony in the world well I gotta tell you after watching these two episodes I think I'm back for season seven you gotta come back I think I'm coming back the water's just I would say, you know, last

season, five was not that good. I think you should watch the rest of six if you're interested. There's a lot of cool shit. It's been kind of the greatest hits, actually. We're getting a lot of cool stuff. I really, the aria stuff was really cool. I liked... I got to see that

Hodor's skeleton. The hudor the hound killing some people is pretty cool. You're missing Max Fonsido, dude. Get out of town. Yeah, he took over the role as the three-eyed raven. Oh. I am the three-eyed raven. Oh, a little bit of Max one side. He's another

secret Targaryen. He was a Targaryian bastard that was legitimized. And he can walk, right? His real name is Brendan Rivers, I believe. Because in the riverlands, instead of snow. Isn't it the lead singer of Incubis? That's Brendan Flowers.

Oh, I think Flowers is the bad... Pardon me while I burst into flames. Flowers is the bastard name in the area of High Garden, I believe, and they're, you know, down by Dornet's sand. Like, it could be John Sand. Oh, that's what I've heard is like he should actually be John Snow because he's not. Because his male bloodline is from the South. Isn't Brendan Flowers the lead singer of the killers? Yes.

Brendan Something is the lead singer of InCube. Rivers Cuomo. That's Weezer. Yes. And that's WHM on screen, everybody, talking. What I, you know, seem to be thinking is the pretty cool Game of Thrones season six. We'll have to do this for season seven. Yeah.

Folks like our television. If people like this, maybe I talk too much about the stupid books. No, dude, there's people out there that eat this stuff up. And I'm sure people will correct me on my book knowledge, and maybe, you know, I missed a word out of a $10 billion. Well, we'll look to Twitter and see what's what. Yes, we will. For more we hate movies, check out WHMpodcast.com. Until next time, I'm Andrew Jupin.

Brandon Boyd was the singer of Incubis. Eric Siscus. You even say that. That's right. You are. Take it easy.