We Hate Movies - S6: WHM On-Screen: The 88th Academy Awards

Episode Date: February 26, 2016

On this very special WHM On-Screen, we make contact with the alternate dimension to track down Chris Cabin, bringing the gang back together to chat about the Oscars! Why did everyone love Brooklyn so ...much? Does anyone actually care about The Danish Girl? And let's just give one to Leo and get it over with! PLUS: How many Oscar votes does Rudy Giuliani get? ALSO: Everyone see Chi-Raq and Creed!Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to W.H.M. on screen. This is a special Oscar edition. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Eric Siska, Stephen Sadek, and joining us via the Internet. promised. Take that naysayers. It's our good buddy Chris Cabin on the line. Chris Cabin, are you there? I am here. The legend continues. I mean, there are a couple of guesses as to where you are. We will not reveal your location. No, no. That's part of the deal. I mean, the bunker should be, you know, more anonymous, you know. Yeah, deep 13. I'm not going to, I'm not going to give any clues. Chris, I just want to know how is Randy Quaid. I mean, I got to tell you, like, you tell a guy, it's my cheese sticks. And you think, you know, you think you told the guy this and it's over.
Starting point is 00:01:07 But, no, as it turns out, no. Yeah, did you break his face yet? Yeah, I mean, like, I definitely caught him in the bathroom, pants down, gobbling him up. Man, you know what, Chris? Pants down, gobbling something? Did you say bathroom? In the bathroom? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 In the bathroom with his cheese stick. I think Randy Quaid's the type of guy you've got to teach not to drink out of the toilet. Yeah. He's definitely a leacher. You've got to pull him a few times. So, ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:01:41 in listener land, you probably haven't been able to gauge this by the first few minutes of the discussion. But we are indeed here talking about the Academy Awards that are happening, of course, this Sunday evening. Check your local listings. But, because I don't know when it's airing and what network and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Oh, you don't want to miss that red carpet. Oh, yeah. The rest carpet starts at like 4 p.m. or something. It might be on now. It might literally be on right now. It's definitely like a pre, pre, pre show on right now. Well, E's doing a countdown already, like, fucking CNN with their caucus countdowns. Like, it is 79 hours until the next caucus, those pigs.
Starting point is 00:02:25 So anyway, the Academy Awards Here's what I think Best way to do it I'll just shoot out Some categories here And we can just kind of riff on it A little bit So let's see
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm just gonna sort of Like spinning a wheel I'm gonna go down this list here First thing I've landed on Is Best Supporting Actor Now this is of course Christian Bale for the Big Short Tom Hardy for the Revenant
Starting point is 00:02:49 Mark Ruffalo for Spotlight Mark Rye Lance for Bridge of Spies And of course Our friend Sly Stole for the most excellent Creed. I really, it really sticks, like, and I know people have made a big deal about this already, but
Starting point is 00:03:03 man, the fact that they nominated the one white dude. They found a way. They act from Creed. Like, that's the one thing, and it kills you, man. And Creed's a pretty good movie. I'm surprised it wasn't nominated for more. I mean, it should have been
Starting point is 00:03:17 screenplay, Michael B. Jordan. I can't remember the woman's name who's in the movie for, like, supporting actress. Director. Director, of course, yeah. Hey, why not? And I don't think it would deserve to win necessarily, but why not best picture?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Because you've got 78 goddamn pest pictures every year now. Sure. Does everybody really need to give Brooklyn any attention? I'll never see that movie. Yeah, I haven't seen it. I don't want to see it. It's about cute white people doing cute white turn of the century things. Listen, listen, the both of you were totally fine.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And here's the other thing. I find it, I mean, we've got some science fiction categories, you know, or movies in this year's nominations and whatnot. You want to know the biggest bit of science fiction. You've got a movie set in the 1950s where an Irish girl goes over to an Italian's house and none of his family members have a problem with it. No, that's that's impossible.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I was like, how is this movie absent of any conflict whatsoever? That's the only reason Italian people have a panic room in their house as in case an Irish lady comes over. I've got to tell you, there's not one moment in that entire movie where somebody says before a word, potato eat in blank. Come on. And there should be. You needed at least one.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Someone at the department store's got to say it to her. Can I do my impression of the only reason Sylvester Stallone was nominated? Sure. Everybody else has moved on. But I'm here. What are you doing, Urkel? That's what it is. I thought it was a Muppet.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I was like, is that Ernie or Bert? No, that's a posy. I feel that's a fosy. It's kind of all, that's like the entirety of the performance. I got cancer. But it's, I mean, it's fine. It's awesome. I think he's really doing something in that movie.
Starting point is 00:05:02 He shouldn't have been the only one, but he's really doing something. See, the thing is like, that's probably going to win. That's what won the Golden Globe. And everyone's all happy about that. But I thought Tom Hardy was better. In The Revenant. Yeah, I think more round, well-rounded performance that does something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And me and Chris saw Bridge of Spies. I don't know if any of you guys have yet. I have, yeah. Yeah, I think that guy's good. It's... I'm really pulling for him. Not enough screen time for me, but I really like the performance. But it's...
Starting point is 00:05:34 That is totally fine in the realm of supporting actor, you know what I mean? Exactly. Like, what, Judy Dench won for fucking seven minutes in Shakespeare in love or whatever that? Nonsense. Yeah, it's... I don't think it is seven minutes. All right, so we hit the supporting... So let's go to supporting...
Starting point is 00:05:52 actress. Jennifer Jason Lee, I guess we should, I mean, we're all thinking Sylvester Salone, right, for actor? I am, yeah. I would say so probably. I think it's my shoeing of the week. Oh, wow. That's a lot. Yeah, I was doing actually an Oscar ballot, and that was the only one I kind of felt good about, to be honest. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff's up in the air, so let's see. Best Supporting Actress, Jennifer Jason Lee from Hateful Eight, Rooney Mara from Carol Rachel McAdams for Spotlight Alicia Vicander for Danish girl
Starting point is 00:06:22 and Kate Winslet for Steve Jobs I think it's done to Mara. You think so? Really? I think that's the one they're going to give Carol because they can't give it to I mean it was one of my favorite movies of last year and I think they're not going to give it to anything else. I'll predict Jennifer Jason Lee.
Starting point is 00:06:40 That would be my second choice. Yeah, I meant to see Carol but instead I act the theater was sold out so I watched somebody get jerked off in a bar instead so I missed Carol is what I'm saying. If you were a new listener that has stumbled upon this Oscar special and you come down with Oscar fever,
Starting point is 00:06:58 if you want to hear that jerk off tail that jerk off tail, that jerk off tail. It was on the last mailbag, I think. Correct, yeah. Okay, so you could scroll back and find that jerk. Yeah, I don't know. I think I would like Jennifer Jason Lee to do it. I think Rachel McAdams is kind of a who cares
Starting point is 00:07:16 She's good in that movie But it's totally whatever It's an ensemble Like there's no point And I don't even know why they nominated All the different actors in Because it's an ensemble piece Like nobody sticks out to me
Starting point is 00:07:29 Well it just seems like a grab bag Of who are we going to nominate Like her and Ruffalo Because like Keaton's excellent in that movie Brian Darcy James is excellent in that Like they're all excellent The West Shriver The Catholic Church
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah I would say, honestly, as much as I'd like to see Jennifer Jason Lee, I think it's going to Alicia Vakander because a lot of dummies vote for this thing and a lot of dummies liked that dummy movie. Well, what about Steve Jobs with Kate Winslet? Now, she won the Golden Globe. And I didn't care for the movie. I did I.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'm kind of in the middle on it. I think Foss Bender is good. We'll get into that. I just think that, like, it's kind of a dummy movie. I just don't. I mean, and I think that Winslet's very good. Like, she's got a really good handle on the accent, and she's got a good handle on the dialogue.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But, I mean, like, who in the fuck cares? It's kind of, like, I don't think that that role doesn't have enough meat. It doesn't, you know? It just, it feels like, the whole movie, it feels like almost a gimmick. Like, I know that's what the structure is and everything, but, like, I kind of felt myself falling asleep in it because I was like, oh, okay, I get it. You're yelling at each other.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, and her biggest, her biggest, like, her biggest part of the role, the meat of it, was getting Steve Jobs a new shirt. I would, the one thing I would disagree with you on, Steve, is that I don't think she's got a handle on that accent until, like, the last third of the movie. And it's kind of like you watch her get a hold of this accent, and it's like, so you're spending more time in America,
Starting point is 00:09:09 but somehow you're sounding more Polish as times going by? I think she's more flustered at that point. Or is she aging into an old Polish woman? Oh, that's possibly it. It's really her story, I think. Yeah, I mean, I liked that movie. I certainly couldn't fall asleep in it, Chris, because you'll understand why I saw it at a New York Film Festival P&I
Starting point is 00:09:30 and I was stuck in the front row, wedged in between a couple people. I didn't deserve to be wedged between. They were bigger than me. Was it Steve Jobs? No, no, he's dead. Oh, it's Steve Wozniak. Ew. I would have loved to sit next to the Wasman.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Talk about dancing with the stars. Why the hell not? Sitting with the Was. That's a short story right there. That's your next podcast. Her accent kind of dangerously veers closely to the blue power, the blue captain planet lady. Veeler! You have to invent Apple computers.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Your daughter is downstairs. She's not my daughter. God damn it, you blue. Buh. Good job, Willer. You avoided using the swear jar. I'm Steve Jobs, and you're not going to be able to do anything I don't want you to with my computers.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You know who's actually a better actress giving it a performance in that movie is Catherine Waterston playing his ex-wife? Yes, she's good. Just plug for Queen of Earth, the Alex Ross Parra movie that she's in with Elizabeth Moss. it's good. Amazing. Amazing movie. So we've got a few
Starting point is 00:10:41 for, well, let's see, Cabin, you said Rooney Mara. Yeah, that's where I would go. Steve? I think that they, I kind of wanted to go to Jennifer Jason Lee mostly, but I also think that that would be a good career award. It would also be a good way to give hateful eight something, which is one of my favorite movies
Starting point is 00:10:57 of this year. Sure. Yeah, I think J.J.L. Yeah. I mean, you know, or Winslet might get in there. I mean, I I would like to see Rooney Mera. I still think it's this Alicia Vicander.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I haven't seen Carol and I really want to. It was my favorite movie last year. Have you watched a guy get jerked off at her bar yet? That's really good. You know,
Starting point is 00:11:20 I saw it when I was really young. So I'm going to have to see it again. Underrated. I'm going to say it. Underrated. This next one, a couple of these I do want to get in. I haven't checked
Starting point is 00:11:32 if we've seen all the movies. So, you know, if you haven't seen it, it's fine. Yeah. The best animated of future film, I think, is an interesting category this year. We've got Anomelisa, Boy in the World,
Starting point is 00:11:43 Inside Out, Sean the Sheep movie, and when Marnie was there. I've seen four out of the five of these. I did not see Sean the Sheep movie. Oh, that's the one I would want to win. Oh, is that right? I can't watch those Ardman animation. I can't do it, man. It just freaks me right out.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I like those movies. I haven't watched the Sean the Sheep one, actually. I think it's really good. I mean, I kind of you like inside out sort of like a given just because we do that it's got it's a lot yeah yeah i haven't seen any of them i i really liked inside out i think it's one of the better pixars yeah in the last 10 years for sure and you know it's it's it says some stuff but it doesn't say too much it's it's the winner i i do want to see anomalies really bad though chris did you see anomalisa i did i'm kind of the middle of the road with it honestly i mean it's interesting i love watching it but
Starting point is 00:12:35 kind of, and this, I mean, it sounds so stupid because it's the movie, what it is, but like, I just didn't believe the characters. Like, I mean, it didn't believe those puppets? I didn't really get it. And, like, it's definitely amazing to watch to look at it. And it was originally supposed to be, like, what, like a radio play? He wrote it as a stage play. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I mean, I saw it at Toronto, and I thought it was okay. I saw a second time, and I liked it much more. So, I mean, that, you know, doesn't say a ton about a movie, but... I mean, any movie where a puppet is handling a dildo, I mean, it's really... It's got my thumbs up right there. Well, if you want to see more of that, tune into the Muppets on ABC. Good Lord. Why don't I don't need to see Muppets fucking or talking about fucking?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Well, that's... Eric, it was a five-rader. It wasn't a Dilldo. Grow up. Okay. Well, I would also, just while we're talking, Boy in the World is one of the most amazingly animated movies I've seen in quite some time.
Starting point is 00:13:41 There's no dialogue in it. It's like fake, it's very little talking and when they do, they're speaking in backward Portuguese. Oh, that's cool. But really amazing animation. And also... Better than Ninja Scroll, you think? Or what are we talking to?
Starting point is 00:13:55 On the Ninja Scroll a meter? Where does this ring? Well, you know, in this movie, one, it's for children, so no one's getting dicks pulled off and whatnot. But, you know. Some people get dick. pulled in. Yeah, I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:14:08 wake up in the middle of night screaming because of a boy in the world. Whereas Ninja Scroll has happened a few times. A lot of sleepless nights. I rewatch that recently. Stay tuned, everybody. Because of the stay tuned, that's why.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Wait, you watch Ninja Scrolls, that what you said? Oh, yeah, man. Oh, yikes. Was it on in that bar? That guy was getting jerked off. All right, let's move on to Best Act. Actor. We've got Brian Cranston and Trumbo, Matt Damon in the year's funniest movie, The Martian, Leonardo DiCaprio and the Revenant, Michael Fastbender and Steve Jobs, and Eddie Redmayne in The Danish Girl. Did anyone see the Danish girl? I refused to see that movie because I know exactly what it is. I really didn't want to. Anybody? It's really, really not good. It's, I mean, it's very pretty, like all Tomloper movies are.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Well, he does look very pretty in the trailers, that's a little same. Well, Eddie, yeah. And I mean, that's what I understand the fact that Vakander got the nomination, because she's the best part of the movie by a mile. Sure. But everything else sucks so much. I just find Red Main to, like, chew on scenery to, like, an utmost in an uncomfortable degree. There's just something off-putting about him.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I haven't seen, like, any of his movies, but I see all the previews. I'm just like, all right, buddy. I get it. It's always just, you know, look at the wig I'm wearing today. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. 12 also like if you really want to see him doing what he does well actually watch him with jupiter ascending
Starting point is 00:15:38 like if it's just like screaming and being like falsetto like falsetto high voice yeah it's just that's kind of his whole thing to me I have not seen that yeah what category is it not I think it's only in costume design I think you're going to have to check the Razzie nominations for that one oh you bitch I mean, I think that this is Leo's category to lose, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It is. And it's like, regardless of whether or not you like that movie, I think it's like, that campaign for him has been so hardcore. I think it's my shoeing of the week. I think Leo's going to get it. And I actually like The Revenant a lot. I know a lot of people don't. And that's, you're right. Including Chris Cabin right here.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yes. Oh, my God. Like, I kind of think, am I the one who thinks that's kind of what calls him? Clive and Bundy thought he was going through. Like, in his head. I think you're right. I think you're right, but it's still a compelling story. I think it's a trashy, like, revenge movie, and they, like, make it into spiritual
Starting point is 00:16:48 hokom. Well, when you're on the brink of death, I guess, is the idea. Yeah. You get the spiritual hallucinations. I once had E. coli poisoning at a motel in Armarillo, Texas. And it was kind of like the Revenant. Oh, really? There was like a Spanish church out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:17:07 You could sleep in a horse for a little while? I was sleeping in the bathtub. And the trick is there. You fill it with water because your stomach's in so much pain. It kind of like emulates the how you feel. Oh, the motion of the ocean? Yeah. It was kind of relaxing.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Chris, you just hang yourself? What was that noise? Hold on a second. No, I mean, I kind of agree. I'm kind of in between Eric and Chris on this. Like, I do think the spiritual hookup didn't really do it for me. I think Leo's actually really good in that movie. What bugging me about the movie was, like, all the CGI stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Like, it's like, oh, I'm going to sit on the side of a mountain and try and watch the light break right over that mountain and then have a CGI moose farting in the corner. And it's like, you know what? In Eritu, like, it's fine. And I'm glad. The movie does look beautiful, but the CGI just completely takes me out of it. I mean, this is probably one of his only, one of his, like, one of the only movies of his that I actually liked.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah. It's definitely, it's better than Birdman for me by sure. I think so. Oh, yeah. I have margin, I would say. I think it's better than Birdman just because, like, it's not a gimmick movie. Yeah, it's about something to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So, yeah, that's, it's his to win. So we can move on to actress. Kate Blanchet for Carol. Brie Larson for Room. Jennifer Lawrence for Joy. Charlotte Rampling for 45 years and Sersher Ronan for Brooklyn. Can we just fucking stop with the just like the pencil in whatever Jennifer Lawrence does at a fucking David or Russell movie nomination?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Can we just stop with it? I'm sick and tired of it. But it's not going to stop. It's clearly not going to stop. Like that's just kind of what it's going to be until she's going to have to drop a brick at some point. I thought that Joy was supposed to be that brick drop. I refused to see it and everybody said it was terrible. and all of a sudden there's a fucking Oscar nomination.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's not that bad. I don't know what anybody's talking about. I mean, it's clearly not his best movie by any stretch of the imagination. But, like, it's not a bad movie under any circumstances. I guess I just don't buy her in roles like that. And I don't know why, but, like, American Hustle, I do not like that movie. But one of the things in the movie that I really don't like about it is it feels like she's just in a high school play playing an adult
Starting point is 00:19:30 Like I feel like that character Was supposed to be like 35 years old Yes And it's just her at like 22 or whatever And I'm not buying it Yeah you know Stick to the hungry games I haven't seen Joy
Starting point is 00:19:46 I was going to And I was kind of looking forward to it But then I heard how terrible it was And I was like Let me see what else I got laying around I mean I think it's A much better than people are getting
Starting point is 00:19:59 credit for but I mean it's not anything anybody needs to see and it's certainly not something that we should
Starting point is 00:20:04 be nominating for anything anybody see room yeah anyone cry like a fucking I just wept that
Starting point is 00:20:11 entire movie man dude you want to know an awkward situation me in an auditorium in Toronto filled with like a thousand people
Starting point is 00:20:20 watching this movie at once and everyone just fucking sobbing including me and me sitting next
Starting point is 00:20:28 to my boss, who is also crying. Oh, my God, this, I haven't seen it, but it sounds like the passion of the Christ. It's pretty close. It's not far. This is a kid, this two, there's two kid-toucher movies this year, right? And this is one of them? It's not a kid-toucher movie.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It's not? What is this, then? It's like she's kidnapped as like a... Oh, it's an adult type of. Yeah. Well, I guess she's like a high school student. Well, that's kid? Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:20:53 It's like that Ohio pervert, that everybody was thrilled, killed himself. It's like that as a book. Yeah. And then as a movie. And the funny thing is I read the book, too. So, like, it's a pretty faithful adaptation. But, man, was I bawling? Oh, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And I think she's great, though. I mean, she's amazing. She's fantastic. From everything I've heard, I think this is the lock of the week. You know what, man? I got two shoes. I got a lock. I got a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You got a gym shirt. You got some shorts. Chris, you're my gym shorts of the week. Thank you. Well, you know, it was interesting. It was for a while I was rooting for Charlotte Rampling. and then she was like kind of a racist old lady about stuff. I mean, like, and she's amazing in that movie.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean, she is the star of Adolf Tittler, so. What do you expect? I would say the thing that could kind of come in and swoop the rug out from under all of this is Sir Shor Ronan with Brooklyn, because people just blindly love that movie. People also love like star making roles. Like, oh, a newcomer has entered the scene. Yeah, no, totally. Also, people love blind checks.
Starting point is 00:21:58 That's true. They do love Kate Blanchett. I just feel like that movie is not getting the love that it's going to deserve. And, I mean, you already said, Chris, like, they got to give it at least something, and it might be Rooney. And I don't know, Blanchett's got one for Blue Jasmine just a couple years back. Sure. I think it's going to be Brie Larson for Room. Yeah, I agree. So that's what we all say. So let's move on to the next cat. Yeah. So that brings us to, let's go with Director.
Starting point is 00:22:26 tour. So we got Adam McKay for Big Short, George Miller for Fury Road, In Your Reto for the Revenant, Lenny Abramson for Room, and Tom McCarthy for Spotlight. I don't know. I don't want it to be In Your Reto. I think that would be ridiculous, although I feel like he's kind of the favorite. Yeah. I want George Miller. Yeah. I think that that's just a bone for fat boys like us. Like to get us watching the thing is to get is to nominate him like i totally agree i think that it's great and he should totally get it i just don't see it happening i think it's going to be tom mccarthy i'm kind of leaning that way too if it's not miller yeah i mean it won't be miller because again fat boy law
Starting point is 00:23:11 dictates that it it should be but it won't be i think it's probably going to be into yeah i don't want it to be but i feel that way although i will say the thing about uh some of the directing honors you can give. It's a lot about how you work with the actors. And in that case, I mean, Spotlight and Room have the two best performances on this list. I don't think Adam McKay has a shot. That's just kind of a would be a nice. That movie sucks.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I'm sorry. I'll just, I mean, like, I've badmouthed some of the movies that were nominated. I didn't dislike any movie as much as I disliked the big short this year. Well, yeah, I didn't like it that much either. I think I liked it a little more than you. but I just feel like then the use of camera in that, the shaky,
Starting point is 00:23:56 okay, first of all, you got Michael Scott in your movie and you're doing the shaky cam. Yeah, it's like an office episode. And then I just,
Starting point is 00:24:03 the stuff with like, hey, you dumb fat piece of shit, here's a celebrity to talk to you. I thought it was pretty condescending and weird. Incredibly so.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I know it's supposed, that's supposed to make it fun and interesting. No. Like, just trust me to get it. You know what I mean? Like any movie that I watch,
Starting point is 00:24:20 I just hope you trust me to get it. Like, tell me what it is, but trust me to get it afterwards. Exactly. You already got every Hollywood hunk dressed up like a clown. That's amusing enough. You've got Brad Pitt and Ryan Gosling and whatnot, we're wearing all types of wigs.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It's a fucking S. It's literally S&L at that point. Kevin, you like, I feel like you liked it more than we did, though. I definitely, I mean, I enjoyed it. I thought it was, I'm kind of indifferent to it at the end of the day, because I do think it is just a comedy. Yeah. It is just like a stupid comedy that
Starting point is 00:24:50 has some big laughs, but it's like nothing that should be ever talked about. Yeah. Yeah. I understand that at all. I did not hate it. Just seeing it just seeing it nominated for all this stuff is a little weird. And like Frank Pitt has nothing to do in that movie.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah. He really does. That's a literal crime. He's like he's like cooking stuff on that stove at one point. Well it's kind of like two CSI Miami actors. They're like running the scene and I'm like, what the fuck's going on? Well, because the problem is this was produced by Plan B. It's the same thing that happened and why he's like playing the role
Starting point is 00:25:23 of Jesus Christ in 12 years of slave. Yeah. It's like I'm putting up money for this movie. I'm going to be in it for a hot second. I don't have to star in it. Yeah. Brad Pitt as Canadian Jesus. Steve, the thing that I would argue with you against is the fact that uh, trust me to get
Starting point is 00:25:39 it. This is some of the most convoluted complicated shit ever and even like with the like condescending explanations. I'm sitting there when the credits are rolling like, wait, what the fuck happened? I mean, it's just, it's something that if You're not in that world. It's just a bunch of gobbledygook.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I agree with that. But I do think like process movies, like movies about complex whatever's. Yeah. That's the magic of the screenplay. You need to find a way to make characters talk to each other in ways that make me get it. And if you don't do that and then you're like, well, I guess we can go to Anthony Bourdain, take it a shit inside of a saucepan. Then like, fine, but that's not even helping me. But like, and it just felt like the Wolf of Wall Street liked.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah, oh, big time. Yeah, that's true. And that had, like, consistent asides. Like, he's constantly talking to the camera, whereas this is, like, three big globs of it in the middle of your movie. Right, exactly. So I think we're all thinking in your retoo, probably. I'm going to go to Tom McCarthy. I think it's going to be Tom.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I will, too, yeah. You're going to double up on that and we can get it to best picture. I think it's going to win best. But I want Miller. I agree. I think Miller would be my second choice. stuff. I do think it's if I go with who I want
Starting point is 00:26:55 to win it. It's Miller, yeah. It's Miller time. It is Miller time. Did anybody see the documentaries? No. I didn't. So, Cabin is real quick, Amy Carteland, look of silence, what happened, Ms. Simone, and
Starting point is 00:27:11 Winner on Fire, Ukraine's Fight for Freedom, what are you picking? I think Amy's going to win. I would have liked to see Winner on Fireland. I actually totally agree with that. I think Amy is the most overrated documentary of the year. Also, though, Cartel Land is quite excellent.
Starting point is 00:27:28 As is what happened, Ms. Simone, I did not like the look of silence. I was kind of underwhelmed by it, and you got so many people saying it's like the best documentary ever made, blah, blah, blah. First of all, it's like a sequel to another movie that's better. But I just, I had a lot of problems with that movie. Unlike the B side to the action. Yes, it is really good. I really felt like that was like This was another idea
Starting point is 00:27:53 And it's not a bad idea But like It just felt like such an afterthought It'd be cool if they nominated Loose Change every year Until it won Until we get answers Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:05 And there's a I think every year there's a new cut of that film I think that's the last documentary I saw And also Just real quick I think this might just be a me and Chris one, too, best foreign language to get it out there.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Chris, did you see these? I saw three of them, I think. All right. So just to go through, Embrace of the Serpent, Mustang, Son of Saul, Thebe, and a war. Which ones did you see? I saw a Mustang, a war, and Theb. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:37 So of those, do you think anyone stands a chance? Oh, I would, I mean, I think Son of Saul is going to take it just from what I've heard. Right. Holocaust, right? Exactly. It's a Holocaust drama. It's a fucking. brutal movie for one and I never need to see it again. Also, it's a Sony Pictures
Starting point is 00:28:53 Classics movie and the gag is like they always win. And the best example was like they had some movie from Japan one year that nobody knew what the fuck it was. Nobody had seen it. It wasn't even out yet in the States. And it totally won and everybody was like, wait, what? What movies? What's that? It was departures. Yes. Yes, very good. I will say, though, if anyone has the chance, Mustang is a fucking, excellent movie. And that's about That's about horses? No, it's about five sisters in Turkey that are being sold into domestic slavery through fucking arranged marriages. Yeah, that sounds excellent.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It is. All right, let's cap it off. Best Picture, we got the big short, Bridge of Spies, Brooklyn Mad Max Fury Road, the Martian, everybody's favorite comedy, the Revenant, room, and Spotlight. I mean, why not? It's down to the Revenant. Yep. I really, I really would love Fury Road to take it. I know it won't happen.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's another fat boy nom. Like they did District 9 all those years ago. Big time. It's like let's put something commercial in here kind of. But I think the Revenant probably dark horse candidate, the Martian, won the Golden Globe for hilarious comedy. And it's a crowd pleasing film. I enjoy The Martian fine. It's like a total like B minus like regular schmegular.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Here's a good movie. Which is probably like every. Almost every Oscar movie ever. Yeah, pretty much. I think I'm going to go hard on Spotlight here. I think I just feel like they, because of the Innery 2, two year in a row thing and this, there's a lot more backlash to the Revenant than there has been to Spotlight. Yeah. Like people coming out and like, ah, fuck that movie.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Like nobody says that about Spotlight and like it's. I think less people saw Spotlight. That's also very true. Yeah, no, it's true. Yeah, I think like the other thing is even with it's the negative whatever is, people. People are just talking about the Revenant way more. It's got the star power. I mean, Spotlight does too, but not as crystallized as Alia da Capria.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I saw Spotlight, and I wasn't that into it. I understand why it would win, but it's a little dull for me. A little groan you made is about my reaction to Spotlight as well. Oh, you didn't like it, Chris? I like what it's a do. I mean, I see why it's a big. deal. I feel the same way. We're on the same page. Put that in your newspaper. I like Spott. I like Spottler a lot. I think it's because I grew up Catholic and I wasn't molested.
Starting point is 00:31:28 It's kind of like when Indiana Jones like gets out of a temple that just explodes and goes, you know what I mean? Like, wow, how did that? How did I make it out of that? Kind of the same thing with me, man. Kind of the same thing with me. Although amazingly, at the end of the movie, also, by the way, if you want to talk about the brutality, of going to a fucking film festival sometimes. I saw this and room in the same fucking morning. That's tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. But right at the end of the movie where they say like they give the huge list of cities where all this shit happened, right up at the top Albany, New York, baby, blammo. Hometown Pride. God, what a fucking disgrace. Yeah, I don't know. I would like to see Spotlight. I'd like to see Room.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I would love to see Fury Road. It's just, it's going to be the revenue. Yeah, I don't think there's any getting away from it. Well, I guess we'll have to see on Sunday. Okay, who's going to get their tuxedos pressed? Me. Getting my boxer shorts pressed because I watch TV mostly in my underwear. Yeah, I might.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I think I'll wash my underwear for this one. Oh, nice. Fancy affair. Once a year, right? Yeah. And Chris Rock is hosting this ceremony. That should be awkward. Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to go after.
Starting point is 00:32:48 after it a little bit because he has to the Oscars so white thing which is kind of a fucking disgrace we should touch on that a little bit yeah it's it's a it's a fucking disgrace what do you want there's Michael B. Jordan Sam Jackson all these other people
Starting point is 00:33:04 that you could have uh yeah Sam Jackson I think totally should have been nominated for Hateful 8 even more so than Jennifer Jason Lee who I thought was great also like Sam Jackson is that movie he's fantastic in it he's also fantastic in Shirek which by the way was a movie that came out last year and was really good Yeah, if no one knows, Shirek is a fucking amazing Spike Lee movie that no one saw.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And I can't remember the woman's name, but the lead actress in Shirek is... Dawn from Mad Men. Yes, she's fucking phenomenal in that movie. She's really good, yeah. Cabin, did you see it? Oh, yeah, it's what you want out of a Spike Lee movie. Oh, exactly. Tiona Paris, I think her name is.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's amazing in that movie. Total fucking Snub City. And, I mean, I hate to reiterate about Cree. but like Tessa Thompson In Creed is amazing She's so good in that movie
Starting point is 00:33:54 And they're the director right Ryan Coobler That scene The riff on the Rocky Strong Now with the fucking ATVs Yeah And all those dudes are in the street And it's like oh my God
Starting point is 00:34:07 That's what this movie is Yeah Like it comes by surprise almost Like oh I'm watching a Rocky movie And then like this music video happens In the middle of you like Oh wow This is like something totally different
Starting point is 00:34:18 and amazing and, like, emotional and, like, nah, yeah, no, not, we, we're not going to see it. We're not going to see it. We're not going to see it. As Oscar voters, we're not going to see it. Well, I'm glad that we, uh, as a country, you know, we got outraged for the Oscars for, like, 91 seconds. Then, uh, Beyonce, like, does anything, uh, at the Super Bowl and everyone fucking farts like a loser. Like, we, we all watched the Super Bowl. I don't know about Chris Cabin there, but like, did anyone think that that was a problem? It was just, no. I was offended by something, and it was goddamn Coldplay. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:54 You mean Coldplay's Bollywood production, they have? I really thought that the tip would have been, wow, Beyonce is like dressing up like a Black Panther. That's pretty disrespectful to the Black Panthers. You know what I mean? Seriously. That's what I really thought was going to happen. It's one of those things where like you just, you could look at the people and the reaction the next day. And it was like, I know where you stand on a whole lot of things after that Super Bowl halftime show.
Starting point is 00:35:23 That is insane. And also, why is anyone getting mad that the Black Panthers existed? You shouldn't. See the Stanley Nelson documentary that came out and did not get fucking nominated for a category? And you cannot equate them at all to the KKK. And why are you okay with the KKK all this? You're not yelling about that. My question is, how many voter ballots did Rudy Giuliani get this year at the Oscars?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Well, it's just like every other year, Stephen, I get about seven. I get seven because of, you know, I was a great mayor. I was America's mayor. I get to vote in the Oscars seven times. It's fantastic. Oh, good, great. Chris, don't come back to America. That's all I could say.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's going to shit. You thought it was bad before, man. Well, that's, you know, I think it's, here's what happens. Chris Cabin leaves America. fucking flushed the toilet on this country. Chris Cabin, you were like the support beam of this country. You were the retaining wall of America. Well, my friend, I think we'll leave it at that for this WHM Oscar special.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Thanks for calling in from the moon. And hopefully when you come back, we won't be in mutant death camps. But we'll see. We'll just have to wait and see. It might be days of past over here. We might. I'll bring some loaves of bread and I can toss them over the gate. That'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I'm just hoping I passed Trump's blood test. I think, I don't know, I think I might pass the test and I'll be all right. I don't know about these guys. I think you've got to be like 85% blue blood. I'm fucked. All right, gang, with that, enjoy the Oscar ceremony on Sunday as much as one can. Until next time, I'm Andrew Juppin. Stephen Sadek.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Eric Cisker. Chris Gavin. Take it easy. Thank you.

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