We Hate Movies - S7 Ep295: Episode 295 - Overboard

Episode Date: April 4, 2017

On this week's episode, the gang finally finishes up the 2017 Listener Request Month by tackling the outright creepy "family" comedy, Overboard! How in the world did the police department allow this g...rift to start in the first place? What's with these kids constantly looking at pornography? And most importantly, what is Kurt Russell's end game here? PLUS: Michael Shannon is getting all sorts of new roles! Overboard stars Goldie Hawn, Kurt Russell, Edward Herrmann, Katherine Helmond, Mike Hagerty, and Roddy McDowall; directed by Garry Marshall.Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I want to talk about a little film called Overboard. So let's get into it. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Chris Cabin. Eric Siska. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Thank you were tuning in, as always. This week, like I said, up top. We're talking overboard. It's from 1987, directed by the late great Gary Marshall. RIPD, man. Totally, dude. Did he get Farina? No.
Starting point is 00:00:50 No, you can't. You can't have the Oscars without Gary Marshall. I think they put a statue out in front. You don't win an Oscar. You win a GERN. You drove by his tombstone as everybody was pulling into the Dolby Theater. No, man, there's like a, there's a tomb, you know? Oh, he's interred.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. With Fonzie's jacket. Oh, no, that's in the Smithsonian. I saw that in real life. It's all glass like linen. Oh, man. Oh, that'd be great if he's just floating formaldehyde.
Starting point is 00:01:19 He's standing up giving a thumbs up. They, they, uh, I almost said, well, I guess it would be mounting it, like, like taxidermy. I will say the best. I'd mount them. One of the best, when I released my book on Great Straight Men, the big, those are going to be a big chapter on Gary, God, Gary Marshall in defending in Lost in America. Oh, he's the casino owner?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Not giving Albert Brooks back his money. And he's just like, we can't, we don't do that. It's, it's Las Vegas gambling. You do gambling. You lose your money, you go. It's like, it's the best. He's awesome. This movie isn't awesome, though.
Starting point is 00:01:57 as we also know sharing the opinion is Tim from Massachusetts he called in to have this to say Hey guys, this is Tim from Massachusetts I'd like you guys to do an episode on 1988 overboard starring Kurt Russell going on This is a movie my sister loved when I was a kid
Starting point is 00:02:13 And I hate it I think it's a horror movie and I wish more people Would see what a terrible, wretched person Kurt Russell is in this movie Love the show thanks bye Yeah Tim you're right This is like you could have pulled You could have pulled...
Starting point is 00:02:27 Listen, listen, here's how you do it. You could have pulled one of them there, alternate trailers where you put in some creepy music. Oh, shit. I'd say, pull the music, pull Ed Herman. You got a Lars von Trere movie. Oh, yeah. This is Dogville. This is almost...
Starting point is 00:02:42 This is very similar to Doggall. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Why is also the late grade, Edward Herman, Ed Herman? Would you mow his lawn? One summer, yes. Why is Edward Herman being left out? He's just as responsible. comical and charming in a Lars von Trier movie.
Starting point is 00:02:59 You know who would have been great in that role, by the way? Not that Edward Herman isn't fine. Willem Defoe? No. No, Hector Elizondo. No, fuck Hector Alizando. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I got to have cameos in all the movies. It bothers me. No, the great Stephen Tobolowski. Tobo would have been great in this role as the husband. Oh, I was going to say, if this was a Vontrera movie, there would definitely be at least one to two characters played by Staling Scarsgaard. So you got to have that. Well, husband would definitely be still in the car.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Well, I was saying, Willem the fuck. I thought he could also. Oh, that's true. Willem's got to be the Kurt Russell role, though. Man, you can bring Kurt Russell in, man. Oh, he's game. We're in the Kurt Russell Renaissance right now. Are we?
Starting point is 00:03:40 He's in that Fast and the Furious movie now. Is that a Renaissance? But he's in the... He's making money a sance. Bone Tomahawk, man. Great movie. I rewatched hateful late, not two days ago. That's true.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Great movie. Does that hold out? Yeah, it does. Nice. It's got to be snowing, though. and you got to have a little bit of whiskey. Yep. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That's a good call. Well, maybe we'll get another snowstorm. I can rewatch it. That's the move. Pray we don't. Yeah, that's also true. I'll wait till next year to rewatch that movie. Yeah, you wait till next year.
Starting point is 00:04:09 So this movie was like a box office smash. Big. There are so, I mean, here's the, I feel, I hate to interrupt you again, Steve. I'm sorry, but I feel like. Steve, shut up. We're in for email town. Uh-huh. Because I saw, I did a thing on Facebook where I was like, I'm watching
Starting point is 00:04:25 this movie and I got blindsided by a terrible Randy Newman song, which we'll address later. But all these people were like, um, I like that movie. That's my favorite movie. That movie's hilarious. I was like, wake up call America. Here we go. You know, there's a lot of sociopaths in the United States of America. Then isolate that fucking clip. I will say that it's obviously it's okay to like a movie. Sure. Because there's people that it's probably their first episode. Possible. You think someone right now, this is the first episode of We Hate Movies
Starting point is 00:04:55 watching overboard. It's my first step. Someone was on the overboards searching around. Oh, what a low point for Reddit. There was a little post of like, who's talking overboard this week? And then this fat guy podcast showed up. You know, a lot of people like this movie. And, you know, it's definitely creepy.
Starting point is 00:05:16 There's a weird, dark, villainous undercurrent. I'll give you that. Yeah. I feel like the chemistry of Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn make the movie work. It's unmistak Goldie Hawn, there's no better career you could have. No, right? Nope.
Starting point is 00:05:30 She's won an Oscar. She, like, killed TV on laughing. She was a box office sensation for, like, 30 years. Totally. She could open, I don't even think there's a, there's a parallel anymore. Like, who would, who's the actress now that's Goldie Hawn? Comical. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Nobody. No. Not, there's, there's no. They broke the mold when they made her. They did. I don't know. They did know. She's great.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's unfortunate, though. Then you think about titles like the Bangor Sisters. Oh, there's a lot of shit. There's just dress. Well, she's got, let me tell you what looks terrible. That snatched. Yeah, she's got that movie with Amy Schumer coming out, snatched. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:06:10 It looks doggone terrible. It's her playing Amy Schumer's mother and then they get kidnapped. Joan Cusack's around. Well, yeah. Joan Cusack? Yeah. I like that. I like Joan Cusack.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah, no, but this movie looks like a bag. of turds. It does not look good. Well, you know. Yeah. You can't win them all. But this era, this 1987, Goldie Hawn. Yeah, this is the gold.
Starting point is 00:06:32 The height of Hawn. 80s into early 90s. Yeah, it was a renaissance. I feel like she didn't even need to buy Coke. People just gave it to her. Like, hey, Goldie Hawn. You did great. Coke?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah, Coke. Oh, I was hoping you said Coke. For a second, I thought you said coat. No. She doesn't even have to buy coat. For a second, for a second, I thought you said Pepsi. People keep giving her Coke. Look, in the 80s, we did Coke.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It's back now, but back then it was where it was at. I don't think it ever went away. There's a lot of young listeners. A lot of people are being reared on this show right now. That's fair. Let's just say, you know, don't do cocaine. From the ground, pound it down, man. So we start on a one of many montages in this.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So many montages. This one's like, this is like living Oregon. You know what I mean? It's a Pacific Northwest. We're cut in fair. We're, I don't know, chopping trees down, wearing flannel. Well, I love it. It looked beautiful.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It does. I'm excited to explore the Pacific Northwest. And this town is called Elk Cove, which combines my two favorite things, wild animals, and beautiful coves where water is. That's great. Do you know if it's a real town? No. I don't believe so. No, you don't know or no, it's not a real town.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I don't know. But did you notice there's one section when they're doing the, like, the TV broadcast of the news guy? Oh, yeah. the guy on the news accidentally says elk grove and then like the rest of the scenes like Kurt Russell I think rummaging around this like diner or whatever and he's just like and it addresses the guy the actor addresses he's like you know I when I said Elk Grove you know I meant Alcove of course
Starting point is 00:08:12 man if this was the real world that would make one of those YouTube like newscaster blunder reels can I read you an entire Wikipedia page Yes please Elk Cove Oregon nice Elkove is a meadow in Mount In the Mount Hood Wilderness on the north side of Mount Hood in the U.S. United States of State of Oregon. It is a popular backpacking area along the Timberland Trail in popular culture. Location of the movie Overboard Film starring Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. End of Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:08:43 The legends are true. How about that? That's awesome. We're going. And then there's a pilgrimage all over this movie. All overboard this movie. Yes. We're going to go there, Chris.
Starting point is 00:08:55 We're going to dump our wives and owner. All of Oingo Boingo covering the deliverance soundtrack. Dude, here's what it is. I'm calling this Hillbilly New Wave. Sure. Because it's like, it's like, it's, it's kind of like an 80s new wavy synth thing. And then someone is just picking a banjo. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:09:15 It's terrible and awesome at the same time. You're at a Coke party with Steve Martin in the 80s. Oh, guarantee. And then there's a slide guitar going to at the same time. it's a lot man it's a it's a lot to take in this movie doesn't let up there's this it's this one song when she when she gets into like being kurt russell's uh a prisoner there yeah she like really starts getting into it getting things done you hear the song and then later you see that band perform this song what a stank ass greasy looking fart rock band if i ever saw one it's well
Starting point is 00:09:48 it's kind of like fart house blues a little bit it is fart house blues big time and you are just you You can smell these guys. He's at a Michael Cain movie. We all got the Fathouse Blues. He did the Cider House rules, and now he's in the Fart House Blues. My career's gone down the train, doing Fart House Blues. All right. Now, I got guests, and my wife put me in the Fart House, and now I have the Fart House blues.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's me and the dog. Good night, babes of Elk Cove. Damn it. Oh, don't I beat you, too? Oh, I'm sorry. A steam rolled right over you. It's quite all right. Like the logging industry in this movie.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So this movie starts, Kurt Russell is just like a guy, a carpenter. He's a Kurt Russell. I mean, this is the prime Kurt Russell character. It's manual labor. You're sweating like a pig. You're constantly drinking bad beer, feed up all the time. The boxes are checked. That's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Lying all over. You know, you know what box is checked? He doesn't wear sleeves for the first 23 minutes of this movie. I clocked it. I clocked it. And why should he? The first time he wears sleeves is to trick someone to thinking he's Goldie Hawn's husband. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:10:59 When he has to go to the police station or like some sentimental ward, he's like better dress up. Yeah, this grift. Put my fancy dodds on. His grifted coat. And that long sleeve shirt is of course red and black checked flannel. What else would it be? His wardrobe is great in this. But also, since we're talking about him, I've got a big question about his past.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Hang up on him. Wait, Kurt Russell's past or the characters passed? Oh, the characters. Okay. He's a widower. He's a widower. He's got four kids. Yes, that is what I want to know.
Starting point is 00:11:34 This man is vile enough to abduct women from a psych ward. Yeah. How did that first wife? Oh, she died a drunken ATV accident, guaranteed. Yeah, that's the fucking cover story. He does not shed one tear for this wife. She comes up a couple times and you do need this. It's only been three years.
Starting point is 00:11:51 In this movie, you need. that and then Nancy You don't But nobody wants to put a photo on a fucking dresser somewhere At what point can he talk about dead Nancy? Yeah I mean Or like two to what's his face Our friend from Wayne's world
Starting point is 00:12:05 Oh that guy who's also the I think he's like the super on friends Dude he gathers around with his kids You know Let's talk about your dead mother Well those kids need to talk about dead mothers It's your classic 1980s Gaggle of monster children That all talk at the same time
Starting point is 00:12:22 Thank you, thank you very much, Stephen Spielberg. Come on, come on, we all lived it, dude. That's also true. I knew these kids. Don't pretend. Don't pretend this is fake. I was one of these monsters. Exactly. I've met the Sadat clan, my God, in heaven.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah, you guys were all spitting in the yard. Doing all sorts of shit. It actually, you want to talk about checked off boxes. You have all of them for this cadre of monsters because it's weird twins, a creepy one that's defective and a fat one. There it is. Boxes checked. And one's an inventor. One's a little inventor.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Obviously, we need your little inventor. Oh, he's making little like doodads and gadgets and what. Rube Goldberg's here and there. Oh, yeah. Is that the kid from Pet Cemetery, too? Yes, Jared Rushin, who's in everything. He owned the 80s. Yeah, and all these.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I don't know if he owned the 80s. He's ever invited to the Viper Room? He was an 80s time share, at least. All these other kids owed the 80s. Wait, which kid was he in Pet Cemetery, too? The fat friend? No, he's the bad guy that could kill. It's the tire to the face.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, I thought he looked familiar. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. And he's in a honey I shook the kids. I mean, that's a career. Oh, he's the little Russ. Yeah, the one who is closest to the aunt. Does anyone know currently right now which Best Buy he's working at?
Starting point is 00:13:42 86th Street. Oh, is he really? No, no, he's working. City boy. He's working the one in Maryland that was implicated in the first season of cereal. Oh, does he know what? happen to that telephone? I don't, no one does. No one. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, is off that time. He's blowing smoke in the alley.
Starting point is 00:13:59 So, Kurt Russell is a carpenter. He gets hired by Goldie Hawn, her, she is married to Edward Herman. Roddy McDowell, uh, is their butler? Yeah. Is the executive producer of this movie? It's like, I'll give you money for it. But also, I get to play a weird, a fet, uh, Butler. Well, that's the thing is he sold his life. if rights to Gary Marshall to make this movie. Wait, do you think, what really? Wow, you think Roddy McDowell perpetrated such a scam? I think it's possible.
Starting point is 00:14:31 He was loaded up with that ape money. Oh, yeah, that's true. He didn't need to do shit. Do you think anyone's life has been as completed or more completed by fucking people in ape suits than Roddy McDowell? No, not at all. Like, he was the apesuit guy. And honestly, he's Cornelius, right?
Starting point is 00:14:49 He's Cornelius. He's fucking great. He's not in all of those sequels. I think he is. Does he make all of them? I think he's a through line. I'll tell you what, when the last Apes movie came out, which, by the way, I saw the trailer for the new one, and Woody Harrelson's got a line in there where I laughed my tits off in that theater.
Starting point is 00:15:05 This will be a planet of apes. And I just went, gah, ha, ha, ha. Oh, I laughed too, but I'm like, yeah, tick it for one, please. Ticket for one, please. Ticket for one, indeed. Oh, yeah. Wife's staying home. of this one.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh, yeah. She'll come. She'll come or she'll go overboard. No, when that second, so was it, was it rise then?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah, it was a rise into dawn. Yeah. Which one's the second one? Dawn. Dawn. Dawn of the planet. During that second one,
Starting point is 00:15:40 I rewatched all the OG APE flicks. I got to tell you, man, that's a solid franchise. It is. It's weird as fuck.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It gets good. They're good. Ricardo Montelbaum. as a circus owner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Oh, dude. Dude. Go ape. I think I got a summer project coming on. Dude, I went ape shit because I was doing that. I had the TV show. I was doing the cartoon.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I had ape hysteria. No one else did. No, no. No, no. I had apisteria. Actually, when I was living in Astoria, and I had a surly plumber come over to fix my bathtub. He looked like Cornelius?
Starting point is 00:16:20 He did, but I was always. also watching that movie doing the entire time he was there. I was like, okay, yeah, I'm just going to watch this Planet of the Apes movie while you do this one. I was going to say, did he bathe his ape while he fixed it? So speaking of bathing apes, Kurt Russell's all sweaty in this movie. So he's hired to come on this yacht. The Immaculata. Owned by Edward Herman, R-I-D.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I feel like they're dodging taxes or something because he does not want to be on dry land anymore. He does not. That's a great point. International waters for that dude, man. He's doing all sorts of shit. But this is clearly hiding out, though, because, I mean, no offense to the great 400 people that live in El Cove. Did you get a population on that Wikipedia? That's what I was really curious about.
Starting point is 00:17:01 He didn't mention it. I guess it's not on there. It's a bit of a small Wikipedia. I bet it's like a thousand. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's a cool pristine town. Why on earth would these rich people dock there? If not, for dodging something.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Maybe it's murder, racketeering, cocaine. I mean, something. But also, the thing is, like, why don't they, I guess, they're in El Cove, but, like, rich people hire, there are rich carpenters you go to. You know what I mean? Rich carpenters. Oh, can go, please. No, like, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:17:31 No, Jesus was not rich. He was famously poor. He's probably, Jesus is the most fucking famous poor person of all time. What are you talking about? Well, I mean, by now I think he's amassed a fortune. Dude, Jesus is, you know what he has. He's not going to see a fucking dime from it, though. Jesus is so poor.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I would have taken his Obama care. airway. Because fuck that guy. Get a job. That's true. Get a fucking job. It's very true. But he,
Starting point is 00:17:58 high-end carpenters is what I'm talking about. Yeah. A carpenter for the rich. They know how to deal with the rich. The most luxurious of carpets. Yeah. Well, Donald Trump, he's not letting fucking Kurt Russell in his fucking stupid gold house.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I don't know. Kurt Russell's kind of the kind of carpenter that's easier to rip off and not pay. Yeah. I think he would really, really enjoy what he does here. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. Because Donald Trump has.
Starting point is 00:18:20 done this to contractors. So she, and to women. She, yes. She, she hires him. She's like,
Starting point is 00:18:28 oh, I need a closet on my boat and like, you know, Kurt Russell's like, closet on a boat. Get out of here. You know,
Starting point is 00:18:35 like one of those, that's kind of the movie we're doing here, you know, like, yeah, he is kind of dumbfounded by the situation.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We're rolling our eyes at indoor plumbing, you know, that kind of a deal. It is charming as fuck. I was watching Kurt Russell in this movie
Starting point is 00:18:48 and I'm like, wait, why am I unbuttoning my shirt? watching a movie. He is amazing in this movie. He's really great. But I'll tell you what's, like, what they're doing here with Goldie Hawn and Edward Herman's characters, these are like cartoon rich people. Yeah. Like at one point, Roddy McDowell comes out to like spoon feed her caviar and there's this whole gag about like, caviar has got to be stiff and it's got to pop and you're, it's stiff and round and explode in your mouth. And Kurt Russell's like, somebody talking about sucking dicks. I work at a bowling alley too. let me just keep making a closet on a boat closet on a boat you tell me rich lady but so uh he does and he does a fantastic job he makes it out of oak and of course i mean and this is a bit on kurt russell i think yeah a little bit because he makes it out of oak and goldie hall's like oh my god you idiot
Starting point is 00:19:42 it should have been made out of cedar now granted she she as the customer probably should have been like hey man make me a cedar closet but you know you're really You order her materials. You got to be like, hey, lady, just want you to sign off real quick. You don't have to hold her by the hand, but just like, this is going to be this material. Yeah, this is why you get the rich person carpenter. Exactly. He does that all the time.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Well, because I feel like Kurt Russell's the kind of carpenter in this movie. He's just stealing scraps from a bone yard. It's like whatever he could find to make this. Whatever coffin he can break down. She's walking around in a swimsuit that makes her look like Gaddafi. And like, no, no, it doesn't make her look like Gaddafi. It makes her look like one of Gaddafi's wife. Well, no, she has the full shoulder pads in general.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh, that part. I thought you were talking about the thong bottom. And I was like, show me a picture of Moward Gaddafi and that. I'll give you a fucking side. I could show you a fucking video where it looks like he's wearing a thong is when they murder him in the street. Don't they shove shit up his ass? Yeah, they shoved a bunch of shit up his ass. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. Now, that happens, Steve. That's how dictators fall. Oh, speaking of that, and you were saying cartoon rich people earlier and Gaddafi being murdered in the street reminded me of this. this could have used a cartoon intro Yes Yes A cartoon intro
Starting point is 00:20:54 Gaddafi being murdered in the street Yeah like it's like They're predicting the future Yeah yeah Well then you would But like you know like Falling off a boat lady Bicked up by a man
Starting point is 00:21:05 Oh yeah well like and I could see Because it's a cartoon thing Right she falls off the boat She's in the water Then a bunch of cartoon fish Like bring it back up to the surface There's a bunch of tugboat noises Oh sure
Starting point is 00:21:15 She's in the house There's like a whirlwind of cleaning or something. Little birdies around her head to indicate the amnesia. We cut to a cartoon shot of a cartoon tombstone, and it's Kurt Russell's cartoon dead wife. And it's him not visiting it. And that's half of the intro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Well, she's clearly in a fucking Folgers Crystall's Cup, like Donnie from Big Lipowski. Come on. So she refuses to pay him. Refuses. She's like, you know, you build us out of cedar. You idiot. Everybody knows you build it out of oak or whatever. However the fucking thing works out.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Which it's like, first of all, it's not everybody knows. Just say, I wanted. Yes, that's it. Clearly not everybody knows because if everybody knew, fucking Kurt Russell would have done it right in the first point. It's a shoe closet to Kurt Russell's credit. You know, the theater's more of a garment thing, right? Well, she's something about moths.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And he's like, hey, lady, there's not a lot of moths in the Pacific Northwest. I don't know if that's true. I don't think that's true. I've only been out there one time. Did not see a moth, but that doesn't mean they're not out there. Checks at them. You see a moth man? I saw a couple of moth men.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I made some prophecies about it. You stayed off them bridges, though, right? I stayed right off them bridges. I would just avoid Richard Gear wholesale. I kind of would do that anyway. We're actually going to Bridgetown. I think Portland, right? I think they have a lot of bridges.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Oh, well, checks out. That's what I heard. What were you saying, Steve? Sorry. No, so basically this is the inciting incident of the movie era. Of course. wherein she basically She seizes the means of production
Starting point is 00:22:50 And tosses her to his tools off the boat She doesn't do it He curses her out Kind of verbally assaults her a little bit You know, it's, listen It's a therapeutic telling off Yeah, but his finger's getting real close
Starting point is 00:23:06 To her throat, that's what's happening He's not hitting her though Yeah, okay No, dude, dude, Steve Objection, Your Honor, Objection, Your Honor, He's not hitting her, though. Yeah, he let her off with a warning.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, I guess. I can't see that as a bumper sticker now. Yeah, I guess. You know what, Eric? I'll take your word for it. No, no. What's shitty, though, is like, it's over a matter of $600, which you think Goldie Hawn is so rich in this movie. She would just, like, you know, pull that out of her toilet.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Ed Herman lines his underwear with that much money. Stop with the Ed Herman. You didn't know the man. The casualness. Edwardian Herman. Edwardian. So he goes home, he storms off. I know, she knocks him overboard first, right?
Starting point is 00:23:51 That's how this works. That's the first overboarding, yes. One of three overboards in a movie. So she had it coming. Not enough overboards in this movie. So he goes overboard. He meets up with his buddy from Wayne's World. What's this guy's name, Mike something?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Mike Haggerty. Mike Haggerty. Yeah, that sounds right. He had, I mean, let me tell you, Wayne's World is one of the funniest movies of all time. Sure. But his monelior. in there about the pinks like getting fired that whole thing is so god damn fucking funny i must think about that at least seriously now like once a month i mean wayne's world is like 25 years old this
Starting point is 00:24:30 year i must think about it at least once a month to just laugh about it it sounds about right yeah him and you know another unsung performance in that movie is fucking ed o'neill oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah I would love to hang out to Stan McKita's donuts, by the way. Sorry. Putting that out there. If it exists. Yeah, I don't know if it's real or not.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It looked kind of real. I've never been to... It's called a set. I was on Star Wars movie. I'm the spaceship kind of looks real. I don't know. I'm saying. I think that Boba Fit might be real.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Okay, now you got me. I think he's real. I want to believe. He goes over. board and she fucking throws his tools in the water. This is this man's livelihood. That's true. That is insane. You know, the fact you're not paying him $600
Starting point is 00:25:18 that you owe him. Which is I did the inflation. It's like $9 million. Oh, yeah. That's how that we're into 1987. Checks out. But like tools are expensive. Yes. And that's the livelihood, like you said. Don't you have goons? Like, really. Like, this
Starting point is 00:25:34 is a perfect time to call your goon to escort him off the premises. What are he going to get Roddy McDowell to deal with it? Well, no, this, this should be Roddy McDowell's job, right? Like, she, she's chucking people? No, but, but fraternizing with the working. The house. He pays him anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Like, she, she curses him out, like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, like, he has an understanding where it's like, here's $600. Yeah, I'm terribly sorry. Because she's not missing it. Yeah, nicked it from the petty cash. Right, right. But then he might not feel so vengeful. And we wouldn't get what the greatness that is about to happen.
Starting point is 00:26:08 The comic gold. Right. Well, it's a, you know, it's a nice revenge plot that veers into a disturbing territory. In Bander's a bit, we learn that his wife is dead. We learn that he is four rotten children. We learn that he lives in fucking squalor. It's at a fucking hoarder's home. It's a fixer-upper.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's squalor. So, um, uh, we just, we live with Kurt Russell a little bit. We meet his rotten children. Um, the rotten children are like trying to pull a Freddie Lounds on the, the principal of the school. glue her to a chair naked and set her on fire and roll her down the street in the parking lot. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're going to get? She comes out to Kurt Russell and she's like, they wrapped me in toilet paper and then they were putting gasoline on me.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Which is amazing that it escalated to pouring gasoline on a human being. And Kurt Russell, God bless him, is just so cavalier and casual. He's like, oh, they're just going through a little bit of a phase. You know what he is? He's private fantastic. What is private thing? Captain fantastic. He's private fantastic. He's the shitty
Starting point is 00:27:11 version of Vigo Mortensen's hippie-dippy dad out in the boons not doing nothing. That's what it should have been, dude. They're living in fucking tents in the trees and shit. Oh, fuck. Separatists. Yeah, totally. Separatists. One of these kids, it's the opening
Starting point is 00:27:28 moments of overboard. And maybe it's even in the cartoon intro, one of these kids butchers a deer with his bare hands. Well, he is grooming a fucking animal. factory here, especially We'll get to it. So he's, so, um, we live with him for a bit.
Starting point is 00:27:44 We live with him? Yeah, a little bit. I would love to live with him. Just putting out that. Can you imagine Rumen with Khrumann with Russell? Rumen with Russell? Dude, if anyone knows Kurt Russell and like, if, it would suck. Because the fucking socks gonna be on the door all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I don't give a shit. And I can't fucking sleep. They have been, they have been constantly fucking for 40 years. I would pay for the privilege to hear Kurt Russell. Nut. That was my question about them, by the way. Was this their first movie together? No, this is the last of three movies.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Of three movies? Swing shift in like 1984. Oh, Swing shift, of course. Never saw it. That's the demi movie, right? Is that swing shift? I don't know. This is, I think it's like set around World War deuce.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't know. That's the big one, as in we took shits. What's the other one? The Great War Oh What's the other movie? Well, you see, there was some aggression in old Europe at the time. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:46 This Archduke was, uh... Actually, yes. He was not asking for it, Chris. It was what I was thinking of. It is a demi movie that he's disowned because it was a studio botched job. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Swing shift. But the other one we do not know. We don't know. We'll figure it out. At some point, it's not protocol. I know that. Oh, man. Protocol.
Starting point is 00:29:07 That might be a stay too. You could help solve a mystery. Do you have access to the internet? Do you have 38 seconds to figure this out? Because we don't. So basically she's on a boat. She falls off the boat because she wants to go to sleep with one of her diamonds. Her diamond is like dangling somewhere dangling.
Starting point is 00:29:29 She don't even know it. I guess her wedding, wedding, I mean wedding ring or some such. And she falls over and due to do. do the shock and everything. She washes the shore and has temporary amnesia. And she's at the psychiatric hospital because a big news story. It's like, do you know this woman? Oh, a young girl fell off a boat, washed up on the shores of Elko of Oregon.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Here is a subpar reenactment. She's a real piece of work. Would you like to pretend to be her husband? Because we got nothing. If so, come and claim her. Well, because this news broadcast goes on for a real long. Like, it's, it's a break. I guess it's like the El Cove local news.
Starting point is 00:30:12 They break into Captain who gives this shit and they just like go with this woman for 40 minutes and like they're just living with it. And Kurt Russell sees it. He's like, and immediately it's not even a thing where like he struggles with it or like a buddy like says he should do it. He just, no, he knows immediately to do it, which is to go to the hospital and claim to be her husband. This whole thing is, like, this is going to be a classic prank. It turns into a sexy prank. It does. Eventually it does become a sexy.
Starting point is 00:30:44 But first, you got to remember, Sir Edward Herman, not Ed. Thank you. He, like, goes to the hospital, sees her, and they're like, yeah, that's not my wife. Well, she's being, like, nasty, and he's like, why do I need this nonsense? Makes no fucking sense. Well, he's complicit in. this plus. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Absolutely. He's a cog in it. But the weird. And so he walks away and then Kurt Russell shows up. He does finally don't sleeves. And he shows up with absolutely no identification. I don't even know if he shows, because it's a cop and a doctor. And he's like, that's my wife.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And they're like, you sure? And he's like, yeah, I'm sure. Sure. I saw her ass once in that event. He does this whole, this whole thing like trying to jog her memory. It's just like the most insane shit. He's like, you were in the Navy. Well, this was my question about that.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Is he bringing in stuff from his dead wife's life? No. No. You don't think so? That's a fucking fantastical crazy life that he's laying out. What? That she was in the Navy? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's a thing. Navy. That she's from Goober, Idaho, which is a nuclear dump of attack. That could all check out, though. And then they met at a donut shop or some shit. Yeah, he's also, like, that's the thing. It's like, you know, and I hate this term because it's overused the thing. in the year 2017, but gaslighting
Starting point is 00:32:07 this lady into fucking madness. But he's doing it so where like she's a piece of shit and everything. Yeah, you were the name of you were kicked up because you're stupid. You were from a fucking dump and you got fired from your donut shop. Jerks. And she's like, oh, I guess I'm an awful person.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Awesome. And then the way that he gets the doctors and stuff to release her to him is the birth mark that he saw when he was. Oh, right. The best thing is like, they're like, they're about to give him her to him And this is the world we're living in. And she's like, well, doesn't he need identification?
Starting point is 00:32:40 How do you know who this guy is? And the doctor is like, yeah, I guess she's right. And he goes to Kurt Russell. He's like, you know, I really want to help you out here, man. But ladies got a point. What are you talking about? There are IDs, a wedding certificate, a picture of the two of them together. Any of this would be totally cool.
Starting point is 00:32:59 This serial killer could have seen her ass in another situation. Exactly. you put a picture of a pretty lady on on the TV and some fucking creep comes to claim her Listen listen listen listen just to quell the looney tune Why don't you give me a piece of mail She's thinking of a number between one and ten If you guess it you get this bride
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's also not just any lunatic I mean this is like the hunk of the century Walked into your office you know It's a Ted Bundy type is what it is A handsome lunatic Wait, Ted Bundy was hot? Yeah, he was famously handsome man. That's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:33:40 You haven't seen that courtroom footage? No. That's fuckable footage. No, do you jerk off to that, Steve? Absolutely. It's like if John Hamm was a murderer. Oh, no way. That's actually, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:33:52 He's going to do. We're going to have to fucking fast forward it a little bit because, like, you know, fast track it rather, because he's getting kind of up there. Yeah. But the ham man could play Ted Bundy in a movie. That's true. You dye his hair brown, give him little nerd glasses. He might actually be killing women. Also, John Hamm?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah. Oh, right now? Oh, yes. Who would look? Exactly. And speaking of this scene, great gag in the background is this dude just eating checkers. Oh, yeah. This mental case playing checkers with himself and just eating checkers.
Starting point is 00:34:26 What I love, there's a great detail about it is like, he eats one and you're like, is that dude eating checkers? Yeah, okay. and then like the the attendant looks over and sees him do it and the extra playing this like attendant is like yep checks out he's good continue yeah that's been the rules she gets her right he brings her home and she's really against it she's like really uncomfortable by the whole thing and like she doesn't she doesn't want to go with this guy she when he brings her out of the mental ward or the hospital or whatever it is she literally has a rope tied around her waist and he's dragging her like she's a fucking cow it's it's great like also like even if he is her husband if she's like refusing to go with him she doesn't have he doesn't have legal yeah it's like oh so you're saying the taxpayer should take on this expense i think so in this one instance we should make an exception for a woman that might not want to go home with her
Starting point is 00:35:27 abusive husband or whatever is going on then what happens when every woman wants to do Yeah, that's true. And you have, like, women's shelters, and then it's coming out of my dime. Yeah, exactly. It was with your pie in the sky ideas. It's crazy. So, yeah, he, like, ties her up and, like, puts her in the back of his Dodge pickup truck, and they drive. And the kid, this is where, like, you're raising serial killers at this point because he, he had, off screen has gone to his, he's gone to his kids and been like, hey, guys, guess what?
Starting point is 00:35:58 We're going to pull a fucking scam on this originally. because she ripped your dad off. So you're all going to pretend to be her children and you have to go, you have to go buy like womanly clothes and scatter them around the house so it looks like she lives here and all this madness. See, this starts out as an honest
Starting point is 00:36:15 grift, okay? Because she cost him like $600, so he's going to recoup that in like a babysitting fee. You know, totally boilerplate, normal stuff. Just guy stuff. He works out where he's like, so I figure out.
Starting point is 00:36:31 She'll be paid off in, I don't know, like a month. He's like $25 bucks a day. I'm like, what are you talking about? I guess he's just doing some division. I don't think he's thinking beyond that, though. But also, that's the thing is what are you going to do? What is his end game here? You have to kill her, right?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. You can't just set her loose, man. She's going to tell the fuzz. It's just, it's too deep at this point. Your children are implicated. Everyone's going up the river. Well, that's probably, I mean, I believe that's probably part of the whole thing. he's getting ready for the kids to kill her.
Starting point is 00:37:03 So he doesn't have to get any blood on his hands. It's a real frailty situation. Come on, Grandpa, you were always the best with the sledge. By the way, it's been bothering me. So sorry, I've been a little checked out as I do some internet research here. Overboard in 87, swing shift in 84, and then technically, the only other thing was a movie called the one and only genuine original family band from 1968. Kurt Russell has a role in it. Goldie Hawn is credited as...
Starting point is 00:37:31 like giggly girl or something. Oh, I know. So the two big ones. All right. Swing shift and overboard. Yeah. So this is the last one. Yeah, this is.
Starting point is 00:37:44 The end of the trilogy. They never worked together together together. That's all right. Well, they work together. Yeah, no, I said it earlier. It turns out they've been fucking constantly for four decades. Yeah, good for that. I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Goldie Hawn is a lucky lady. Oh, no, that's a sex. what you want to be a part of, right? Come on. Yeah, that's actually true. Yeah, everybody makes out well on that deal. Just call me condiment. Oh, here comes the mustard. Whoa, what? A mayo now?
Starting point is 00:38:14 A sexy memoir by Eric Siska. Uh-oh, condiment's going to do his finishing move on him. Oh, wait, I'm arrested. Weird. So, yeah, like, she's brought into the situation, and it's just a lot of, like, creepy ass like oh don't you remember you always did this and you were doing this and you like to do this yeah so all these chores he's like you loved like cleaning the shit out of the gutter you loved what you and he's also like you you never slept in the bed you slept on the couch because you because of your back also one of his big things is like well it never bothered you
Starting point is 00:38:51 before yeah yeah there's a lot of that because it's a weird like she still has at the start of the the the grift here uh uh uh the sex capades, if you will, although there's not really much sex capades until the end of the movie. When they movie fall in love, quote unquote. When it gets real gross. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is all like, she doesn't remember who she is, but she still has that, like, the attitude of the spoiled rich person.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So she's coming in and she was like, it doesn't feel like I would live in an outhouse. Because they have to continuously justify the fact of what this crazy shit he's doing to her. So she still has to be kind of a pain in the ass. That's the weird line that the movie walks is like, She's still doing that. And then he's doing things like not immediately sleeping with her. Yeah. He's like a night. Yeah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'm not saying he is, but I'm just saying the movie's like, hey, this all checks out, man. You know what? It ain't cool, but it also ain't illegal. The Leopold and Loeb Handbook. Well, she has a great line here when she sees the house. She goes, we live here willingly. She is great in this movie. She's so fucking funny in this movie.
Starting point is 00:39:59 One of the things to convince her that. this is her life, is he goes down to Mike Haggerty to do some Photoshop, some early, early edition Photoshop. I don't even know how this even works. You tell me Mike Hagherty, what equipment you've got in your trailer. It's such a bullshit thing because this stems from her being like, hey, Kurt Russell, why aren't there any photographs of us, like, or me? Oh, what was I saying?
Starting point is 00:40:26 He goes into Mike Hagerty in the middle of the night because she's like, yeah, where's all these pictures? Oh, right. Where those pictures I was supposed to see. Well, that, yeah, that stems from her being, like, where are the photos of me? So he takes a packet of pictures, and he goes to Mike Haggerty's window, and he's, like, in there with some lady, you know, which is, like, how dare you interrupt Mike Haggerty for this? He's been working this woman down for five years. And he's like, hey, remember that time in high school? You made us fake IDs?
Starting point is 00:40:55 Do it again. I was like, what are you talking about? That was 20 years ago. You know what I mean? I'm not up to date. Am I a forger? Hey, guess what? Am I a forger?
Starting point is 00:41:03 If your idea of Photoshop is a guy on a trailer, you just might live in Elkopf. If you convince a rich woman that she's your wife after she gets temporary amnesia, you just might be in a movie that doesn't age well. Speaking of it not aging well, they are remaking this movie, unfortunately, well. With Anna Ferris and Eugenio Diaz, I believe the gentleman was named. Who's that dude?
Starting point is 00:41:35 I'm sorry, Eugenio Durbez. Who's that dude? He had some, like, something not, like, battery. It's not batteries not included, but something like that. What? He was in batteries not included? Are you fucking joking me? I'm saying the title of the movie is something like battery's not.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It was a huge crossover hit. Was he tracing Hugh Crone? Hume Cronin? Steve, can you please? I'm full in it. So, A, I will say making the perpetrator in this instance Latin American doesn't help anything for the aging of the film. Well, she'll fall in love with him.
Starting point is 00:42:15 But the other thing is you're missing out. Make this a drama thriller. You cast Anne Hathaway in the Goldie Hawn roll. But, uh-oh, this is what solidifies it. You've already made it worse. Go on. Mike Shannon as Kurt Russell. Now this movie is what it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Mike Shannon, do you mow his lawn? Hey, you're my wife now. You've always been my wife. You better watch my children who are all so dead. Yeah, we always do this. You always like doing this. You used to always like when I would threaten to break your neck like a wig. It never bothered people before.
Starting point is 00:42:55 They retitled the movie because it's like a cool, like artsy movie. You always do this? How did I screw it up? No, Chris Kavanaugh, he was on the right track. The dude's name is Eugenio Durbez. And he played one of the little UFOs and batteries not included. No, I know the movie that Chris is talking about. It's been sitting on HBO Go for no one to watch.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's called Instructions Not Included. Oh. Is what it is. Yeah, so who... Hey, Ann Hathaway, you're a rich lady. Why don't you go clean my house? You're my wife now. do I look like I'm kidding
Starting point is 00:43:29 exactly this isn't a joke it's him at a kitchen table and she's like she's trying to make it a comedy and he's not letting her hey honey shut up first of all remember these little words honey till death do us part
Starting point is 00:43:47 you don't want to part do you would you like to part oh oh it's your birthday today Let's go off for your birthday Today Let's go Let's go in a drink You know
Starting point is 00:44:00 Being tied up Never used to bother you I go to work From 830 to 930 at night And you were tied up For that time Well yeah I mean because this is room
Starting point is 00:44:12 I mean this movie is essentially A fun room Yeah Oh I like fun rooms No no no Room the movie Oh Tommy was so
Starting point is 00:44:22 Classic No Eric It's just Just like the room. The Academy Award-winning film. You never used to bother you to play catch. Well, you know, Scoop McInery tried to make that situation fun. He did his best.
Starting point is 00:44:41 If Gary Marshall directed it in that movie, it'll be a real fucking knee-slapper, I guess. Oh, yeah. There'll be Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. Here's what all you have to do, you have room. It's the same movie. But you have it surprisingly end with a random. Andy Newman tune, and everybody's laughing. You're tearing me apart, Lisa.
Starting point is 00:45:07 A chipp, a chipp, a chipp, a chipp, a chipp, a chip, a chipp. Oh, man, Michael Shannon. Why did they cast James Franco? I like this idea better. I know. Did you see that thing out of South by that James Franco was like, it's kind of perfect because I think I am kind of like, Tommy Weizzo.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Oh, he makes terrible movies? Yeah. That's accurate. Because, no, I haven't watched all of his, like, Faulkner movies. Faulkner ones are not good. I heard they're all trash. His Cornick McCarthy one is not good. Oh, the one where you see a human being actually taking a shit.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah, it's been a long time. Jeez, I could do that. Been a long time. Probably since early Lars von Trier. Yeah, that movie fucking stunk. What was it called? Is that the idiots? No.
Starting point is 00:45:51 No, I was talking about the James Franco movie. Oh, a child of God. Yeah. Something like that. That movie was not good. It's a rotten turd of a movie. A lot of necrophilia in that movie. It used to never bother you before.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Hey, hey, it's okay. This is a comedy. Hey, you always should see my lighthearted do comedy overboard. I thought you liked being rolled up in the carpet. That's my dead wife. We sleep with her, too. You know, it's a thing where I think that I'm happy to take you out for dinner for your birthday, but I'm going to pick the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You think we're going to Italian. You're very wrong. I can't believe the remake and overboard. So she, he put her... Two directors, by the way. Great sign. He puts her into servitude really quickly. He's like, oh, and you always loved having this...
Starting point is 00:46:42 He goes off to work. He's like, you always love to having this chore list. And it's like, do all my fucking housework. And as he goes off to work, he's saying, he'll do our housework. She lives there, too. She does not, Eric. It's a con. It's a long con.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You know, you also make messes in the house. You know, that was your spaghetti plate you didn't clean up. Asker Russell goes to work, he goes zippity do da, zippity day. Oh, boy, do I love having a slave. And, man, my fucking balls went up inside me forever. I mean, which I think is the original Disney lyrics. I'm not sure. I think it was the original score to Fantasia.
Starting point is 00:47:28 No, what's that their racist movie that's awesome? Which they are also remaking with Michael Shannon. I play a young Jeff Sessions. It's me against all these crows. I don't know. I got a raw deal. I don't know how much about a bill becomes a law, but I can make a shallow grave. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:47:51 you know if it comes to it and I have to be murdered I wanted to be Michael Shannon he'll do it right because he's a professional I think I should put that in my LinkedIn profile kill me Michael Shannon no one else fuck me Kurt Russell struck me down while you still can if I was if I was fucked by Kurt Russell
Starting point is 00:48:11 I would immediately then just want to be murdered because there's nothing left to live well you did it all welcome back to fuck Mary kill me okay well who are going to marry Now, we got the fucking killdown. I don't marry Hector Alizondon. I was going to marry Scoot McNary. No.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Gross. Hector Elizondo, who played the garbage captain of the boat. He's a captain of a garbage scow. Is the one that fished her out of the water. Correct. And, man, if you love to laugh, marry Hector Elizondo. Because he's a fun dude, man. You know, in all of his little roles that pop up, he always makes me smile.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah, he's kind of a now we're talking Whenever, whenever I'm never I've never changed the channel I read that episode of West Wing when he was on That was great For me it's just like, all right I'm really just tolerating it Like I was recently rewatching the Princess Diaries
Starting point is 00:49:06 And you know, he's in that movie for a fashion And I was like, alright Just alright I'll put up with it I'm not gonna change the channel on actor I mean I'm here I'm here I'm not happy but I'm here
Starting point is 00:49:19 See I'm already here here. I didn't come for this, but I'm already here, and now this is also here. That's the idea. I think he'd be a delight. Wasn't Hector Elizander the first person say shit on broadcast television? Wasn't that him on Chicago Hope? Oh, it might have been. That would make sense. I mean, he says a good shit. That's world history. Do you hear that they're remaking, uh, Chicago Hope? No, they're remaking the princess diaries. And, uh, with Michael Shannon. He's going to be, he's going to be the one that, uh, carols the princess into being a princess. Oh, I thought it was good. He was going to be, he was going to be, the princess. Oh, that's even better. Yeah. Hi, I'm middle school outcast Mia Thermopolis.
Starting point is 00:49:58 My dad's dead and I live with my artsy mother. Do with that what you will. Oh, great. Now I'm wearing a tiara great. Now, which, now, which, which fork am I supposed to use when I'm eating? How about I just eat with my hands? I really don't want to wear the crown. Well, you got to, dude. I really, I'd rather. not what is it tiara all right so i mean like she started this is when we get one of our first of many montages she starts to to get into it i guess she's into it yeah totally and like cleaning the house i guess the idea is well this is good for her character because you know she never did a day's work in her life presumably it's great she's accepting their situation now exactly if you're if you view this no but it's building upon her as a person
Starting point is 00:50:51 She came from, listen, don't defend the rich every second you get. Her mother is a nightmare in this movie. Their family is a nightmare. Her husband that Cabin Mose Lons for is a nightmare. These are nightmare people that maybe should be dead. I mean, her mother is like one step away from Brazil. Yes, I thought it was that lady. It is that lady.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Oh, is it? What's her name? From Who's the Boss? Oh, right, yes. That's Mona? Yeah, Mona is a. in Brazil and overboard. What?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Really? You're that surprised? A bunch of newspapers just gobbled up Andrew and he's gone. Dude, I've seen Brazil like ten times. I had no connection that that was moanor. Moda. But yeah, they should all be probably dead. Terry Gilliams on the phone, Moner.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Uh-oh, I got killed by a giant hand. Monad, Bob Hoskins here to fix the sink. Oh, man, Bob Hoskins, best part of that movie. Or possibly De Niro. I don't know. The whole thing. Yeah, but, yeah, and she's like her mother, because basically what happens is Edward Herman, like, goes off and he's like, oh, great, this is my chance.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Well, you do find out later, which you need to kind of know because the movie doesn't make sense without it, is that Edward and Herman doesn't have money. It's actually, it's always been Goldie Hans money. Which also doesn't really make sense, because the rich people don't marry none. rich people? Yeah. Like it doesn't make, or like maybe she's got so much more money than he does. That makes sense. That would make sense. I mean, yeah, like he's, it's her
Starting point is 00:52:29 boat, it's her money. He's so much older than her. It doesn't make sense that she would marry this guy. It doesn't make any sense at all. So he runs off to like just go fuck on the high seas and Mona keeps calling. And he keeps doing this thing where he's like, oh, she's, you just missed her.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Oh, she's like, telling Roddy McDowell, oh, just, you know, tell him we're out, whatever. Feeding her fucking Scott Peterson lines. Well, that's the thing. This woman disappears on the high seas. And at a certain point towards the end of the movie, at a certain point in the movie, she calls him up and she's like, listen, I don't know what's going on there, but I don't like it. And you
Starting point is 00:53:04 have one week to tell me where my daughter is. I'm like, if you suspect this guy has killed your daughter, you're going to give him a week to get out of town. Like, you hire a private investigator immediately. You're a billion. That's when Michael Shannon shows up. Oh, my God. Yes. What happened?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Did you throw her overboard? That's what I would have done. I would have thrown her right overboard. Tell me you did it. You know, Tell me you did it. Are you a cowboy? It's really popular in Elk Grove.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Women tend to go overboard. That was so funny. I had the same reaction. I was like, one week. Yeah. How about call me back in an hour? That's it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. You say she's out. If I'm going to call by midnight tonight, I'm calling the police. When he leaves the, I don't know, the hospital or whatever that they're keeping air at at the start, he says something like, well, she's left me or whatever. So like, play to that narrative. Tell the mother, like, we got to build a story maybe. We got to a big fight and she got off the ship at El Cove and told me to go, you know, to go fuck myself. There you go.
Starting point is 00:54:14 There you go. Which I would love to hear Edward Herman have to say that. She told me to go fuck myself. still a whole week you have all that time even if she was still alive with him he'd have a week to kill her dexter her and fucking be done with it or yeah or this guy's got means he's a flight risk that's why you don't let people go he's a flight risk but there's a line in this movie there's nothing to do with the killing the possible killing but it's a real kurt russell line and it's unfortunate that it's in this context because i feel like if kurt russell made this joke in real life you'd be like kurt russell that's fucking funny But he's showing her around the house and he's like, you know, this is where this is. This is the bedroom and he goes in and it's like just a shitty Kurt Russell bed. And he goes, a lot of miles on that mattress.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And I was like, ooh, Kurt Russell dialogue. It's a funny joke. But again, like it plays to the sex angle, which is really, in this instance, it's unfortunate. So like we get the first night he goes, hangs out with, he keeps going out every night. He's like, I got to go bowling with the guys. And he's always hanging out with Mike Haggerty. And, like, the first night, Mike Haggerty's like, hey, did you do it yet? Hey, you teach that rich bitch a lesson yet or whatever?
Starting point is 00:55:26 And he's like, and like, the way the scene is played is like, well, of course you're going to have sex with her. But Kurt Russell's the good guy. Sure. So he, in air quotes, so the way he's playing it is like he's pretending he's going to have sex with her, but he's too good of a guy to do it. Well, it's kind of like how in Fargo, Peter Stormair's. the good guy to Steve Bouchemey, you know what I mean? Wait, what? No, it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Well, Steve Bouchemy, like, gets mouthy, you know? Like, he's a mean dude. Yeah, but Peter Stormere just starts murdering people. I think he's closer to Peter Stormere, actually. All right, you know what, whichever. One of the Fargo goons is nicer than the other one, and that's the way the movie plays it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, this whole world takes place in, like, the, like, basically the town that a time to kill takes place in.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Like right before it happens, I feel. Man, that, oh, if this turned out to be a time to kill prequel. It might as well be. But she does get into this blue-collar life. Sure. Oh, yeah. Starts eating it up. Well, there's a turning point where, like, she gets, like,
Starting point is 00:56:34 her pans are glued to the plates. Oh, God. And, like, these rotten kids have been awful to her. But then she gets the hose out and starts spraying everyone in the middle of the house. This is a turning point, Chris. This is where the romance starts. It's such a bullshit turning point, though. But they're having fun.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Jesus. Well, she's just baked a huge fucking chocolate custard for them, and they're putting their hands in it and just feeding and shoving their mouth. That's a weird thing. You have Mike Haggerty come over. You're like, hey, Mike Haggerty, come over and watch some football. He's like, all right, let's do it, buddy. And he comes over.
Starting point is 00:57:08 There's a bunch of beer. And it's the classic, like, she's running around, cleaning, serving them. He's like, oh, how about some more beers? This, that, and the other thing. At what point in this one, it's like the fellas together, are you like, let's dip into this chocolate cream pie? It's so weird. It's another one of his little, like, fucking control things. Because he's like, I'm hungry for dessert now.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yes. Are you going to come and give me dessert now? And Mike Haggerty's like, hey, man, I just came here to watch a Packer game. This is getting weird. No, no, no, no, no, shut up. Where's my dessert now? But so she freaks out in this scene, and she's like, I've. been working my ass off. You don't
Starting point is 00:57:48 say thank you. I'm cleaning up after you. I'm serving you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You always liked it before. It's like a huge thing. And she goes away and then she comes back and sprays him with a hose. And it's like, da-da-da-da-da-da. And the music's all happy as ever-loving shit. This
Starting point is 00:58:04 is when she becomes blue-collar trash. Yeah. But I'm saying it's liberating for her. All of that can't happen in 25 seconds in the same living room. Well, it is what I'm saying. It is a movie. It's the scene you remember in serial season
Starting point is 00:58:20 two when Bo Bergdahls made those guys with a hose and they all started liking each other, the people that were like the Taliban? Yeah, he sprayed the Taliban with a hose. That's right. And then they all started playing cards together and even though he slept in a bird cage, it was like they were buds now
Starting point is 00:58:36 and you kind of felt good. Everybody was a little bit right in that situation. And they shared a chocolate pie together. It was really sweet. What did that show conclude that he was a traitor or something? No, they kind of leave up to you, Eric. Yeah, you know what? I left it up to myself to not finish listening to that season.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I'll never listen any of that shit. That's fine. You're all right. But, I mean, she's a prisoner, is what I'm saying. But so she has this moment. It flips. It's whatever. We cut to like she gets called into the teacher's office because these kids are being
Starting point is 00:59:07 monsters. They all have the same teacher. It's like a schoolhouse. I don't know where the, what friggin' Mennonite compound they're living on. Cove, Oregon. They're just all living. They're like Amish, I guess. We're like, this kid's 14, the other kid's eight, and they're in the same class.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Odd. It is odd. But so this woman's like, oh, these children are unruly. They refuse to take this placement test, blah, blah, blah. And Goldie Hawn, you want to talk about dressing down. She dresses down this teacher. It is fucking fantastic. It's great.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Oh, my God, telling this woman off. Oh, it's awesome. Yeah, and she's like becoming a real mother to these kids These kids are loving it Like they needed discipline and structure in their life The youngest kid can't read and Kurt Russell's like Ah, he'll figure it out It's like dude
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's like not all your kids will learn to read By reading pornographic magazines by the way They're running around that nudie man The older kids constantly looking at pornography And he's got a line where he's like Ha now those are tits Yeah He's like looking at a magazine
Starting point is 01:00:11 And Kurt Russell's like whatever he's 13 He's jerking off all the time Which is true, but come on, give him Moby Dick. Because she goes up to Kerr Russell, like, you know, you're not raising these children, so-and-so doesn't add to read. Tommy's got pornography everywhere, and he's like, well, I'll build you a separate bathroom if it bothers you that much. And I'm like, ew, ew, ew. You know what, Kurt Russell, it's not the jerking off that's being argued right now. A second bathroom doesn't fix everything.
Starting point is 01:00:41 That's a bait-in bathroom, man. You've got to have your regular bathroom, then you've got a baiting bathroom. But to Steve's point... Were you in the baiting bathroom? Did you know that you're not supposed to go into the bait and bathroom? One question for you, if you were in the baiting bathroom, were you baiting? Because if you were at baiting, you shouldn't be in the baiting bathroom. Why don't you just come back out here with you?
Starting point is 01:01:05 Let's go for a ride to the desert. No, no, we're seeing the desert tonight. Yeah, Hector's out there digging a hole nice and deep. Oh, Hector Alessandro? Right before I marry him. Also, Goldie Hawn is able to point out to this teacher that all four of these little mongrels are stricken with poison oak. Sure. Which is like, yeah, that's unfortunate, but that's not the reason they're refusing to take this placement test.
Starting point is 01:01:32 No, they're just being assholes. There's also this subplot where Kurt Russell's making a mini golf course, which this movie did not need. Oh, my God. This movie did not need it. You know what? I'm sure if you look through all of the decades of cinema history, there are some points, specifically Caddyshack 2 in where you need a plot line about a mini golf course, but not a lot. Did Caddyshack 2 have a mini golf course? Caddyshack 2 is all about a mini golf course.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Oh, because they were converting it to a mini golf course. Stay tuned, by the way. Oh, big time. Jonathan Silverman in that film? Yes, Jonathan Silverman in that film? No, but like, you know what? Not overboard. No.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And it's like him and Mike Haggerty. There's enough going on in this movie. They're like sketching out ideas. Well, no, she, you know, Goldie Hawn's the real designer of this whole park. And this is a big bunch of horse shit because Mike Haggerty has the better idea where he's like, this golf course should be like every hole is a different famous brewery from America. How cool is that? And I was like, fuck yeah, Mike Haggerty. I do put putt at that shit.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Absolutely. And then Goldie Hons like, what about if there was a mini golf? course where every hole's like a big monument from around the world and I was like, oh, like every fucking miniature golf course in the history of human society? Really? She's got results though, man.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Like, no one's... You're gonna bring a kid. Every brewer else to say it was a big fucking factor in. Well, it's all... Look at this big gray structure. Can you get it in there? It's all for fucking not because when at the, when we finally see this monstrosity it's just like floats
Starting point is 01:03:06 in the middle of a field. Like, it's not even designed to flow. bite your tongue this succeeds does it yes everyone's happy they're dancing oh that's one night's business that's a grand opening that disgusting fucking a honky
Starting point is 01:03:22 fart rock band definitely plays the grand opening of this mini golf course they just go they're singing Jim Dandy three times in this movie well you know when you pay for Jim Dandy you really pay through the nose the funny thing is though
Starting point is 01:03:38 so like at this point like she's basically changed Kurt Russell's life for the better she's teaching his children how to read she's cleaned his house she's made order of it
Starting point is 01:03:47 she's destroying that one child's addiction to pornography she gave she gave him a business like all this stuff and he's like I'm starting
Starting point is 01:03:55 he's going to Mike Hagg and he's like I'm feeling bad man I guess I should I guess I should tell her that I abducted her about two months ago she finds those panties
Starting point is 01:04:03 oh that's right but they've got different initials on it from the name she knows oh right and there's this weird subplot of like she wants to like figure out like
Starting point is 01:04:13 who Kurt Russell's sleeping with and what's going on with that. Because he's like catfished her in real life to the point where she feels like jealous of her abductor. It's totally fucked up. It's amazing. But then like the brain twists. It's a bunch of inception. I mean like and
Starting point is 01:04:29 because he's doing fish gut work at night. Yes. Yeah. And everyone is trying to keep them together because they're so good together guys. I don't know if you notice. they're so good together like the kids want like they're like no you're our mom what are you talking about and then billy you know michael haggerty says that the uh the man the fucking the fucking spiel he lays oh it's such a lot that these panties belonged like oh i strayed from
Starting point is 01:04:58 gertie and i found us phones this i actually wrote this down this is like verbatim he found a phone sex operator who would accept personal checks and he didn't be a bad Billy Bratt for nothing. Bad Billy Brat. Wow, he converted on a phone sex operator, huh? That's pretty tough. She came down there to have sex with him, and he wrote her a personal check. And this is like in the middle of Kurt Russell trying to, like, admit what's going on.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And he's like, shut up. No, this is not real. He's not, you know, and she's like, no, oh, thank it. And she's like giving Mike Haggerty a big hug and laughing it off. And Kurt Russell's like, that's not what a phone sex operator. does. They don't come to you and fuck you. I just don't understand how, like, Kurt Russell doesn't drive
Starting point is 01:05:45 home one day and the ATF has the place right. No, exactly. Well, I think that's what Mike Haggardie's deal is. Like, dude, he's an accessory at this point. Oh, yeah. That's why he's not like, oh, it's not I don't care about you, man. I'm not going to the clinfinition. The idea that like, wait, no, dude, we're in too deep.
Starting point is 01:06:02 You convinced that woman for 40 years that this is how it is, and that's the way it is. Look, eventually one of you'll die and then it'll be over with. But for right now, I'm not going, I can't go back to prison. Well, because my, he's definitely done time. But this character has forged
Starting point is 01:06:17 those photographs. Yep. Yes. I mean, he is like, tits deep in this. It's an accessory to kidnapping. That's a big deal. It's a huge deal. He's doing time. Serious time. So, um, it's her, basically in one of these times, Kurt Russell comes home
Starting point is 01:06:33 and he's like, baby, I got to tell you something. And he's about to say it again. Yeah. But then he's like, and she's looking at him and he realized how beautiful everything is like, it's your birthday and like he does this twist where like I was trying I missed your birthday so I'm going to take you out to
Starting point is 01:06:49 a wonderful dinner. They go to some shitty blues house and fuck, right? Like that's the thing. But I got to stop you though because here's where the charm of this movie picks back up again. There's a split second in this movie where it looks like it is a genuine good time and it is Kurt Russell
Starting point is 01:07:05 doing sweaty roadhouse dancing in this bar. Holy shit. it's awesome dude i don't care if he abducts me look jeff domer could cut up a rug at all those fucking milwaukee clubs all right he was great on the dance floor he loves to pick up a good guy i'm breaking it down into little moments okay in this moment i had the thought wow it looks like it would be really fun to share the dance floor with kurt russell not this overboard character or whatever the else fuck so much fun to get stockholm syndrome
Starting point is 01:07:39 No, no, no, I'm talking about the precious seconds of actual Kurt Russell doing actual Kurt Russell dancing. It's disingenuous to bring up your serial killer friends that you love so much. Sure. You know, because we don't know that he's killed anyone yet. I mean, I know I suspected him of killing his world for his life. Yeah. But this is the staircase right now, man. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You know what? No, man, I watch fucking overboard. and I get Stockholm syndrome. And I'm like, he's just a good guy. You just need someone around. Mike Haggerty's definitely taken a life or two in this movie. Guaranteed. Oh, man, he definitely strangled someone to do.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Back when we were living in Germany, my wife died that way. She fell into a white barrel and I buried it. Well, it's like, oh, actually, that's a fucking terrifying moment in this movie where she's like, she's fucking catatonic. And Kurt Rouse was like, I'll fix it. it and he carries her outside and dumps her in a barrel of water. And then later in the movie, even more chilling, like, she's like, she's like disagreeing
Starting point is 01:08:46 with him and like, he's like, what do you want to go back to the barrel? She says, I don't want to go in the barrel. It's like, please don't put me in the barrel. Yikes. So at that moment, I was like, did Eli Roth direct some of this movie? So they do have sex and it's incredibly sensual. Oh, yeah. It's very soft.
Starting point is 01:09:04 We don't see anything, thank God. This is worse than the Revenge of the Nerds Rape. right? Because, I mean, like, they're both misleading sexual encounters. That's bone-chilling. It is. The end of Revenge of the Nerds is bone-chilling. This, I mean, like, look, it sucks. It's a thousand percent problematic. The movie and Gary Marshall and everybody involved did it as best as they thought they could to make it so, like, they're both in love. And look, clearly, by the people who, like, responded to my Facebook post and everything else, so many people fucking fell for it. Sure. And I think a lot of that has to do with the chemistry of Kurt Russell and Goldie. I agree. I feel like anyone else playing this, as we illustrated with Michael Shannon and Anne Hathaway for several reasons.
Starting point is 01:09:50 If it was anyone else, it wouldn't work. But like, these two people were in love in real life and it comes across on the screen. You know what I think it is? I think it's you end this movie with a Randy Newman song and everyone thinks the movie was fun. If you, if you ended Dogville with a Randy Newman song, they'd like. like, oh, that was kind of fun when that woman broke her statue. That would be a little more confusing than anything. Well, that's an odd choice for Von Tree. The bouncy synth-billy soundtrack. Like, there it is.
Starting point is 01:10:21 That's what it's called. Cabin coined it. And, like, I'm sorry. That's what makes all of this okay in the outer world. It has this stupid bouncy. You put some Wagner over this. Yeah. Well, that's what I was talking.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Wait a second. I'm going to go home and do that. That's what I was talking about with this fake trailer shit. You could change that up, man. And it's like bone chilling. Even bone chilling is the kids almost run into them the next morning. And one of the kids, I think it's porno, fat kid, is like, You got nice tits or nice ass.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Hooker Russell's like, ew, man. What I believe it is because it's even worse. Because I mean, like, this is after like this movie spending all this time being like, but she's like a mother to them and they respect her as a mother. Well, this is, first of all, it's a real Larry the Cable guy birthday present because he fucks her and then opens the door and it's a bunch of rug rat mongrel kids going, got you a warshin machine. Yeah. And she's like, oh great, a warhing machine. And then he goes to get the kids and he like shoes the kids out.
Starting point is 01:11:24 And before this kid closes the door, he goes, she might have no tits, but she has a nice ass. Yuck. And that's where this whole thing should crumble because Goldie Hawn's character totally hears. it. And she's like, wait, what did he say? I feel like I missed this line. No, that's a real line. Yeah, it's there. He says it, and she goes, what did he say? And it's like, and it's like, and then they cut and it's over
Starting point is 01:11:48 with. She had to be like, wait, he's cut? No, no, no, no. Don't, don't worry. I was just telling him about what's going to happen on a 16th birthday. It's just outrageous that she's like, wait, what did my son just say about me? Yes. Cut. Cut. Gary Marshall,
Starting point is 01:12:04 cut. It's fine. So Edward Herman rushes back because... Warshing machine. The federally's around after him. He picks up moaner along the way and like I guess fills her in as to what happened. And he basically shows up
Starting point is 01:12:20 to Kurt Russell's house and he's like, it's a scene where like she just walks by and she's like, oh hey Edward Herman. She's like, Edward Herman. She remembers everything. And we have a she's all that moment plus Sven Othorson. So that's pretty... Oh man. Svenl Thorson as like the beefy
Starting point is 01:12:36 security guard. What a camera. named Oloff. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's appropriate. You know, I really wish we could have seen these two stallions fight. That would have been great. Kurt Russell starts duking it out, and it would definitely be duking it out, by the way.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Oh, definitely, dude. Maybe some fucking drop kicks back and forth? No, it's totally. They have to fight in a lumber yard because it's Portland. It's Oregon, right? And then fucking Svennolly Thorson, as big as a fucking tree trunk, gets fucking thrown into a saw. Yes, exactly. I thought you were going to see.
Starting point is 01:13:08 takes a whole tree and swings it at Kurt Russell. Oh, if he hacksawed Jim Doug and him? Both, dude. Both. Both. And then Kurt Russell has to... He's like, now we've got to go live in the sea because now I'm going to murder B. He's got to murder B on top with this whole kidnapping thing. Instead, it's just this awkward thing where Edward Herman in this scene is like not...
Starting point is 01:13:29 He doesn't say a word really. No. He's just like standing there. And all he says is like, oh, if you want to get rough, that's why I brought Ola. And then Sven Olthorson doesn't get to say anything. It's just a bunch of people not saying anything. Because they're wrong for each other, man. Who's Sven Olthorson and Edward Herman? That and Edward Herman and Goldie Hawn.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Are you the comeda? So. The thing is the She's All that moment is really small. It's not like, it's never, a, no mention of charges by either Edward Herman or Goldie Hawn. Like, dude, this guy should go to jail. She doesn't burn that. house down. I'm sorry. It's not convincing. Because she's just like, oh, I can't believe you lied to me.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It's like, yeah, he did a lot more than lied. But I think it's a thing. She, excuse me, he rescued her out of the complacency of her doomed marriage and terrible life. And also, Edward Herman's totally complicit because he did the whole like, not my wife. Yeah. So I think it's just like the two dudes here are like, let's just kind of call this. even sure i mean we're you know i'm playing a little bit of the devil's advocate sure
Starting point is 01:14:43 hoo ha ha ha oh geoffrey jones should have been i'm not even sure of how pachina would be okay with this i think he'd probably have a problem this is this what do you think that that relationship with beverly d angelo was she had no idea who he was found her in a hospital once oh my god yeah i'll uh yeah i'll take that when i saw that vacation movie yeah she looks like a pip yeah i'll give you a 20 tire to the top of my car so i guess it's like so get back on my boat so you know there's like 20 yeah there's like 20 minutes where there's like some stupid therapist named dr corman who are not even gonna plays a piano it's like a joke it's like a joke and then like she's like oh give me a beer
Starting point is 01:15:31 and everyone's like everyone's monocle falls out like because like she's been trashified Right, yeah, she's a pig now. Yeah, she's a white trash pig. And she's, like, hanging out with the staff and stuff. And everyone's like, oh, something's wrong with her or whatever. Basically, this movie ends as an 80s movie should with two boats careeding towards each other. That's the only way to end an 80s movie. She's drinking beer.
Starting point is 01:15:53 She's talking to the staff. She's regained her humanity. But it's just amazing that this movie is like, look at this piece of shit. Who was a piece of shit person? Sure. And it's like, this kidnapping. happened to her and this kid look what this kidnapping did it made her into a real gal don't worry here comes james con to settle the whole rest of the thing no i would much rather a dogville ending honestly
Starting point is 01:16:18 fucking ed herman comes to the house with a bunch of guys of guns oh yeah they shoot them all yes hector alizando they get the doctor they get the kids yes they got to get the kids oh sure especially that porno i mean i don't think you should everybody's going down and the town doesn't exist anymore. No more elk cove. That'd be, oh, and it ends salty earth. That's what it is. The movie they're all dead. It ends with Sven Olthorson going up to the
Starting point is 01:16:45 sign that says, welcome to El Cove, like population, whatever, and he just picks the entire sign up out of the ground and just breaks it over his knee and throws it in the water. Fade to a stage with outlines of some guys like, hey,
Starting point is 01:17:00 excuse me, buddy, how do I get to Elk Cove and keep driving. Listen, turn the car around. Keep driving. Goldie Hawn's in the back seat just staring blankly. Smoking a cigarette man. Just trying to get it all through her head.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Goldie Hawn, like, gets in a fight with Edward Herman, because Edward Herman's like being a scumbag. And he says something about he spent the past month whacking the donkey with painted ladies. Yeah. Because he's just been like fucking hookers, this whole movie. One of which is called Tofutti. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Hey, you're sure. So, like, Kurt Russell is going to go, like, he loves her, so he gets Mike Haggerty to commande the Coast Guard. That's how this whole thing goes tits up, man. You get the U.S. Armed Services involved? Do not bother with you. You got to get a buddy's boat. This is a buddy's boat situation. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I know a guy who's got a boat. Don't bring the government involved. Oh, yeah. We've got to get the government out of our lives. Well, no, because they're all like, oh, great. You're rescuing your wife. wife and you're like well not really he's like what do you mean and then you tell them the story and you're in a fucking stockade yeah you're in the brig exactly it's like wait so then the
Starting point is 01:18:15 coast guard gets a call and it's like oh salmon poachers yeah there's salmon poachers and so the guy i think these are all like real life coast guard people because they're all fucking horrible one of them is gary marshall's son actually oh the little turd on the radio can i tell you the most meaningless piece of i'm db trivia i've ever seen for the movie overbow Wow, sure. It's for overboard. It says, trivia. Gary Marshall's sister is Penny Marshall.
Starting point is 01:18:45 In overboard? In overboard? Filed under Overboard. It's like, trivia. Penny Marshall exists. Did you click that that was not cool or interesting? I didn't bother. Was she like thanked in the credits maybe? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:18:58 And he was just trying to shove it in there. Oh, I don't know. Oh, she played Poseidon in this scene, but they cut that out. so like the the coast guard's like we got to go do legitimate shit so this dumb thing will have to be stopped and they go to turn around and Kurt Russell's not having it and he jumps off the boat and here's what's unconfirmed as far as overboard well he goes overboard yeah he goes overboard but here's the thing the question I had as to who's going overboard because I rewounded a couple times unconfirmed as to whether or not that's a stunt double I think Kurt Russell was jumping off that boat. I hope so. It looked awesome. I would think he would. I would hope he would.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah. I don't know. Didn't you notice it looked a lot like Kurt Russell? Why wouldn't he jump off the boat himself? Oh, he's a big movie star. Oh, he's a virile young man. I know, like Tom Cruise always insists on doing his own stunts. Well, and I mean, he's got to know that Randy Newman's in the water.
Starting point is 01:19:57 So, anyway. Are Randy Newman in the water? Don't go in that water. I heard there's a Randy Newman in there. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do you're going to need a bigger piano. You ever see Randy Newman's eyes like a doll's eyes? Rose back in his head as he clinks the piano keys. You want someone to kill a Randy Newman.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I can do it. The U.S.S. Indianapolis. The water was cold and a bunch of Randy Newman's. Swimming around us. I saw a bunch of men start going under. I said, really steel boys with a bunch of Randy Newman swimming around. 33 good boys go down to this drink with Randy Newman that night.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I like eating bro days. Oh, it's awful. So she jumps into the water to... Sure, she's going overboard a second time. Woman overboard. They follow on... They follow. love they come back onto the Coast Guard
Starting point is 01:21:05 boat and like he's like I can't believe you gave up all that stuff for me and she's like no I didn't I'm actually rich and I have all the money like and the gag is like the four shitty little kids or he says like they're already making out their Christmas lists and she's like oh great
Starting point is 01:21:21 so add grand larceny to this fucking because this is Stockholm syndrome ladies and gentlemen that's the only reason for her to do this like if she hates Edward and Herman that much is like you know what I'm getting an apartment in New York I'm going to figure it out for like eight to 10 months. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Separation. Trial separation. Sure. See what happens. But then she eventually marries Colm Fior and that is the prequel to First Wives Club. Yeah. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:21:46 No, it ends even creepier than that because she's like, or I don't know who suggested. Somebody's like, hey, let's have a baby. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:21:55 He's like, he's like, you can give me something. He's like, ah, you know, you're giving me all this money. What can I give you?
Starting point is 01:22:00 She's like, you can give me something. She looks at the fucking ugly kids. he's got he's like she's like a girl oh right yeah that's what it's a girl beep and then cue randy newman and we're out of here guys jesus christ you should have had a cartoon outro yes at least like they smile they kiss maybe the cartoon is like the two of them and it's the top of their wedding cake sure yeah or like how is there not bloopers at the end of this how is they're not like we're doing the thing that roger ebert always hated where it's like the credits are going but the
Starting point is 01:22:33 movie kind of continues like where's the wedding those four little shit-stained kids are like the groomsmen we could see the little girl but I did there maybe this might be a sequel set up by the way you never know oh that could be overboard two now there's a kid great title
Starting point is 01:22:49 what do they trick that kid into thinking that's a great question because the new cast member has to be the one that gets tricked no it's one oh no that's what it is it's the one of the kids goes to prep school and then somebody overboards him to a dirt family and like it's like Oh yeah my how the tables
Starting point is 01:23:07 have turned fat kid Exactly Fat Pornow Kid would have to be it Would anybody recommend this movie? No it's about two hours Which is about too long One hour and 52 minutes And there are a lot of like really
Starting point is 01:23:22 Bone chilling lines like the barrel line That really like even when you're starting to be like Well this is a kind of a Let me put away my 2017 Glasses Right Put on my 1987 glasses, still not that great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:36 No. Hard no. This is awful. Chris Cabin's hard no. It's all creepy. I would say from beginning to end, it's like really bone chilling. And like I really do think you take the score off this thing and it's a much more frightening movie. So yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I think it's, you know, obviously there's problems with it that were addressed on this podcast. But Kurt Russell. I think, well, it's, it's fun, it's dumb, you know. I think a hangover movie, seeing is believing type of situation. I would recommend it. Sorry. I mean, it's crazy. Sorry, America.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It's crazy, but. I thought you were going to say sorry, not sorry, which reminded me, today I heard someone use that in real life. I almost threw up. Oh, that's a problem. I think I didn't make you blow chums. Here's how I will argue that it's a hangover movie. is because if it's a hangover that's bad enough
Starting point is 01:24:32 And this is the first movie you put on While you're trying to deal with just laying on the couch with a Gatorade You can kind of fall asleep at about 20 minutes And that's before the creepitude kicks in So you can kind of just enjoy the chemistry of the two of them And then before anything stockholmey goes on If you're in need of a real rageache Fine
Starting point is 01:24:55 See that's the thing is the chemistry Russell and Hahn make this No, they ask, I will say their chemistry is undeniable. The circumstances is deplorable. It sucks. Another word ruined by 2017. It's just amazing that it's like this, this fucking past the mustard. Nobody was like, you know, Gare.
Starting point is 01:25:19 This is Roddy McDowell's dream. This is his baby. Do you think that's why he was dumping so much money into it? Oh, you know who wrote this movie? Speaking of movies. Oh, O'O. Adolf Hitler. Steve Bannon.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Steve Mnuchin. It's a little... It's written by a woman. It is written by a woman. So then you're like, oh, okay, so that's kind of like, take some of the stink off it, right? Which it kind of does. Also, like, every woman I know loves this movie. It is written by a woman named Leslie Dixon.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Right. Who has also written movies called Mrs. Doubtfire. Wow. Oh, I'm seeing a fucking trans. Uh-huh. She loves stories about trickery Problematic trickery Criminal trickery
Starting point is 01:26:04 Just like heaven Which is a very weird movie Also very weird Is that that Warren Beatty movie? No that's the fucking Reese Witherspoon Oh where someone's a ghost She's a ghost
Starting point is 01:26:16 And Mark Rufelow And Hulk is like in love with her It's a stay tuned You got John Heater farting through that movie We've got a four-timer here She's done the movie we just did which is overboard
Starting point is 01:26:29 She's done Mrs. Doubtfire. She also wrote, look who's talking now. Wow, one of the odds. And Eric Siska favorite lover boy. Oh, my goodness. Whoa. Lover boy is also another like, we're going to fuck people for money. It is.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Weird. Yeah. How about that? A lot of criminal sexual trickery. Weird lady. Hey, weird lady. Well, you know, I mean, she pulled that off. Maybe that was the big con on the world.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Maybe she tried to sell them all as thrillers. Oh. And then she was like, no, let me rejigger it here a little bit. And boom, comedies. Oh, that's what it might have been. She was like, here's this bone-chilling thriller I wrote called Overbord. And look who's talking now. Yeah, also a bone-chilling movie in its own right.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Well, it's like you take the talking dogs out. That's still like a bone-chilling story. Mrs. Dought-Fire, clearly bone-chilling. Take out those dogs, swap in some Kurt Russell's. Kurt Russell Terriers That's overboard From 1987 Directed by the late great
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