We Hate Movies - S7: WHM On-Screen: Doctor Strange

Episode Date: November 11, 2016

On this On-Screen episode, the guys welcome back good friend, Justin J. Case, to chat about the latest—and greatest?—Marvel movie, Doctor Strange! Credit where credit's due, this run time is amazing! How do they rate Benedict Cumberbatch's American accent? And what's with these lazy stingers? PLUS: Stan Lee almost catches Steve Ditko with his rake!   Doctor Strange stars Benedict Cumberbatch, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Rachel McAdams, Benedict Wong, Mads Mikkelsen, Benjamin Bratt, Michael Stuhlbarg, and Tilda Swinton; directed by Scott Derrickson.Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm going to be able to be. Welcome to WHM on screen, everybody. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Steven Sadek, Justin J.K., and Eric Sisko. We're talking about Marvel Studios presents Coca-Cola's Dr. Strange. No, just Dr. Strange. Is there a lot of Coca-Cola? No, I don't think so.

Dr. Strange isn't a man who drinks soft drinks. No. I don't think anyway. He likes Under Armour, though. That's what everybody likes Under Armour. Everybody loves Under Armour. He loves Paiote Tea. I think that's what most of this movie is

And it's kind of strange This movie is a little strange This is based on the Marvel character Of the same name Anybody familiar with this comic book line Before we got interest in the film? Not really I mean like he shows up a bunch

He's always He's farting around with the Avengers Oh of course he is Well it's more of a new Avengers Kind of a thing Oh pardon me That's when like fucking Spider-Man shows up And Wolverine

Isn't he like with the Fantastic Four a bit? Kind of yeah kind of a little bit. Yeah, he's kind of always around. He's got his hands in a lot of different pies. He's actually very famously in the 1970-something Spider-Man rock comic, which is a vinyl record that I have, where in Spider-Man...

Oh, with going cross town? Go across town, going to... Yeah, he's in that? He's in that, yeah. Of course. He's playing bass or something? No, he's just... He helps Spider-Man defeat the Kingpin.

Yes. You can find that on YouTube, I believe. You go look for that. This is what's amazing It's like how you choose to remember things though Because so myself Steve JJ here And our good friend Sean Weiner

Who's been on the show before Once went out somewhere in New England We're teaching like an improv thing or something And we listen to that goddamn thing At least three times 40 times over Yeah it's great I have no memory of Dr. Strange being

Me neither I was a little embarrassed to say But I was like who was he? No because was he the town of the crossing of the town Peter Parker We remember the one song Peter Parker says

Right you are Doc Let's go cross town Oh he is that dog Oh I thought it was Doc Oh So Benedict Cumberbatch Of course International Sensation

The imitation Gaves Benedict Cumberbatch Oh Lord almighty I've been burning a hole in that DVD right guys I watch a movie Every damn week That's a movie you want

On home video right there No shit Sure la Nice. Standard depth. JJ was going to say standard. Thanks for pulling that across the finish line, gentlemen. It's Cumberbatch.

He's in there doing an okay accent. It's in and out. Here's what I'll tell you it is. And I think here's what it is. Dr. House. He owes Hugh Lorry some fucking voice training money. I'm also medical training too. He's just doing Hugh Lorry doing an American accent.

accent. I'm a gruff doctor, but I have magic powers. Yeah. And you know what? Honestly, though, like I, I, it's fine. The second it hits, I was like he's doing Hugh Laurie doing a new American accent. And you know what, fuck it. It's fine. And fuck it because I love this movie. I'll get that out of the way. I'll get it out of the way. I don't like a lot of Marvel movies. I like, you know, every so often, one hits it out of the park and I thought this was the one. Totally. I really, really like this movie too. I really do. It's one of it's easily the. best superhero movie of the year? Probably yes. Hands down. I mean, what else do we have? This is your fucking suicide squad. Suicide squad? Oh, let's go through it. The beginning of the year was Batman v. Superman, which we...

So technically, it's an elite. Deadpool. Deadpool, which is actually... I think it's number two. Then you go into X-Men Apocalypse, then you go into Civil War, then you go into suicide squad, then you go into this. It's six superhero movies. And I'm probably forgetting

one, honestly. But I would put this first. I'd put Deadpool second. I feel like there's definitely something we're missing, like, I don't know, like, shirt man or something. Maybe it's one of those movies where you don't know it's based on a comic book and then someone's like, Andrew, that Josh Brolin fucking cowboy

whatever the shit movie was a comic book. And I'm like, who could care? Who could care that that was a comic property? Excuse me, his name is Jonah Hicks. Yeah, yeah. Jonah fucking bend over and I'll show you where to put that DVD, standard death, otherwise.

Is Moonlight based on a comic book? Did I miss that? It's a great movie, too. How did Moonlight get his powers? From the moon. So we're going to talk about this movie a bit, so if you haven't seen it. Yeah, spoiler, spoilers, spoilers. Pauls right now and go to the theater.

We already spoiled what his accent sounds like. Which is unnecessary. He should just be British. I'm sorry, it makes no sense to make him American. Benedict Cumberbatch's identity as being British and like he gets his Benedict Cumberbatch away through this performance anyway like he's very Benedict Cumberbatchee in this movie

which is good but he just needs to go all the way but I think that's just because you know him as only doing an English accent but he doesn't do a good American accent I think this is totally fine it's passable do I want to watch a passable accent

or just somebody actually actually Steve, your accent is passable. I thought he was doing a British accident and that's in that Sherlock show. I'm sorry, I thought he was from Oklahoma. Yeah. No, I'd say that like a spoiler alert, yes, absolutely definitely. But in this movie, the plot is definitely underneath the visuals. There's no way we could spoil what this movie looks like.

Yeah, that's a good call. I mean, I was sitting there tall glasses to the wind. man, I'll tell you right now. Good for you. Oh, man, I prepped. I prepped. My wife was like, you're prepping to go see that movie. I was like, yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's what you call Chris Cabining a movie.

Oh, man, he's not here. That's why he's always seen them, but we'll see them again, huh? Yeah, that's right. For a refresher course. No, but I went in, and it's one of those things where it's like, if you're not bringing it to the theater, which I did not, it was an at-home situation.

You have to. But it's, here's, The thing, though, you're playing against the clock. We don't live in Colorado, Andrew. Oh, God, fucking someday. Thank you, Massachusetts in Maine. No, but you're playing against the clock, man, because I'm like, how many fucking trailers are on this thing? I'm like, look, I already ate this box

of mozzarella sticks. Fucking, come on. And thankfully, you know, by the time Tilda Swinton starts fucking with him in this movie, like, I was still good to go. I regretted not seeing it in 3D. Chris Cabin not here to talk about the movie, recommended highly the 3D, and I believe it.

I saw it in 3D. Oh, I didn't know that. Pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I usually don't want to see anything in 3D. Sure. Get away from me. Yeah, I was actually upset that I didn't get you in 3D.

Yeah. Kind of similarly, yeah. My friend went to see it. I forgot where it was. I think it was in Jersey in 3D, but something happened with, I don't know a lot of the tech talk, but it was shot in like half 3D, half 2D or something, and they got the wrong glasses for the format. that it was in.

Oh, so the, so the, the planes were reversed. Oh, shit. Man, that's a doctor strange shit.

Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's amazing. She was like, I was just gonna, I was just sickening. It made you sick.

And so they had to like tape something over one eye so they can watch them. Oh, that's Refund City. Oh, yeah. It was refunds city. A little anecdote

from my screening. Steven Sadek, movie hero first responder saved the movie for everybody. Oh, get a, please tell us. Whoa, whoa, Dr. Sadek, you have the floor. Yeah, I went to see it in Times Square, which was a fucking nightmare.

That's a big mistake. It was Monday. It was Monday evening. I was like, you know, it's enough time is past. No, enough time didn't pass. When the fucking trailer for the Guardians of the Galaxy showed up, the guy was like, I am Groot. And I'm like, dude, shut up.

You're ruining it for it. Some guy in the theater yelled that out? Some guy in the theater. It was a bad crowd. Oh, no. I kind of had a bad crowd on the Upper West Side, too, not for nothing. They didn't deserve what I did. So the movie starts, and it's really low.

And, like, it's the first scene to Tilda Swinton and Matt's Mickleson. Volume. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Volume. What is that? Clean the shit out of your ears. Wait, wait. How do you say that?

I'm jokingly saying volume, but the word is volume. Okay, thank you. There's so many people, you see so many people that are like, is Andrew, like, stupid, or is he purposely mispronounce? The answer is yes. And I was just trying to have a teaching moment here. Well, you know, when I jokingly say things like program, and they're like, does that fucking moron not know how to say the word program? Of course I do.

They have this accent? Yeah, well, that's the way I read it. We should have learned as he says it on every episode. Sorry, Steve, I totally. So it's really low. And the first scene, I'm like, oh, maybe we're in a different dimension where everyone talks really low. No, that's impossible.

So then we go into the hospital scene. This dimension is low audio. and I'm like and that bad bit with the music which I wasn't crazy about where he knows all the songs and I'm like

It's to prove his arrogance I can't hear what's going on Darmoon is turning the volume down Dormamu Dormamu You're turning it down Dormamu

I can't even hear myself think literally So I'm like you know what dude Nothing's happening And no one's gonna do anything This theater needs a hero So I stood up and it's time square

So you have to go to the top of the fucking Empire State Building To watch anything So I had to go down The Empire State Building is not in Times Square by the way But I had to go down three escalators to find the human being And the volume is low in this theater Were you at the Empire 25? Yes

That's your problem Yeah you got to go to the fucking top of Ed Koch's dick holes If I can see that movie His dead dickle I fucking hate that theater So I come up and I missed the car accident. I mean, I know who Dr. Strange is, so I knew that he was going... It was like, Dr. Strang is going to a party.

I'm like, all right, so there's probably going to be one more party scene. Like, he might bump into Tony Stark, but then he's going to get into that car accident. I got five minutes. Yeah. But no, it happened on the way to the phone. Hey, Fetty, you missed the car accident. That's amazing. Pretty good car accident.

I missed a car accident delivering a baby, but that was... I'm not going to do it. I'm actually not a doctor. I just have a calming presence with women. well we were talking about a hero that birth would have happened with or without you this guy changed the movie and no one no one applauded me when it came back

back well nobody knows it was you no nobody knows it was you that's why they were like that dude went and took a shit and missed the car accident oh doctor shit's back when I come back Rachel McAdams like I'm so sorry you're in that car accident and then the audio kicks in and I'm like

yeah motherfucker you're welcome I should have done it And like, come on, let's hear it for Stephen Sadek. I can't start a round of applause for yourself. Let's hear it for Steven Sade. So the car accident was kind of cool. It's pretty great. It's an awesome car accident.

Although, I think it has a little bit of creative geography. It looked like they were. It looks like Dr. Strange was driving up 9W in Orange County or something along the Hudson. And then when he crashes, he's in, he's, you get to see what the George Washington bird. That car rolls across county line. It does. It rolls 50 miles. Dude, that's a serious wreck.

your car rolled 50 miles and that's why he needs all this surgery well it's awesome I mean you even get the visual of like his hands go through the dashboard this is really like don't text and drive kids well because he's he's driving one of those like my cock is miniscule cars you know in one of them

is that what the surgery was for Dr. Stephen Strange is driving to a party to celebrate his own arrogance he has to text his friend while driving which is incredibly dangerous luckily the mystic arts will save him, but they will not save you. Dude, that is a heartbreaking film

to make fun of it. I don't know what that reference is. It's Werner Herzog's short, devastating film about texting and driving, where it's like, these are the lives that have been destroyed due to texting and driving. Oh, he made a documentary about texting. Yeah, it's just like short little 30-minute PSA and it's fucking

heart reaction. Tony Stark was selling weapons in the Middle East, but luckily he was able to build himself a heart. By the way, without context, you sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger is a vampire. Come on. Do it. You have the steak.

Blunge it into my hearts. Get to the coffin. Get to the coffin. You couldn't listen to the bears. And then the bear ate Tony Stark. He ate his heart out of his chest. So he had to build another one. Stephen Rogers was a scrawny little boy

who wanted to help the allies. Luckily enough, there was Tommy Lee Jones. And then, when my mother took me from my bed in Munich and we ran into the hills, we saw Steve Rogers. And a man moving metal. And then Klaus Kinski slept in a pile of leaves for two years

his apartment was full of nothing but dirt and leaves and I said this man needs to be in the movies so I decided I would remake Nosferatu the Vampir starring my leaf and dirt sleeping friend Klaus Kinski

also known as the Red Skull and he was so good in the role him narrating a Ken Burns style as if if superheroes were real that right if I love that song Get him to narrate, Ken Burns is baseball. And then Babe Ruth, the fattest man in America,

sauntered out into the fields. And Hell's gates opened and Ceribis vomited, and there was Thai Cobb. And then the American people saw nothing but pinstripes for seemingly eon after eon. All right, so we all like this movie. great, super fun. The visuals are I mean like, does this movie

does it lose visual Augusto because it's very similar to Inception but not really like do we do we fault of that? I don't. I don't. I don't and here's why because I think it does what Inception's doing but better. I really do I really do and it's like

there's a fucking point to it to a degree you know it's not just like all you're dreaming now baby At this point in the podcast, Andrew Jopin is talking about how a man in a cape is doing something better than another film. I mean, you know, they're like manipulating it. You see like the direct action of their manipulation. It's very kaleidoscopic. It's sick.

It's really cool. It's like MC Escher. Yeah. It's very awesome. It's a lot like artist. It's neat. It's very neat. It has a point.

I think it's really cool. Well, that stuff's cool. And then there's like the fucking universe tripping shit, which is like, let me tell you, fellas, see that movie a second time. I mean, and that's directly from the comics. Jim Steranko did a lot of cool stuff with that. Steve Ditko did a lot of cool stuff with that. We're like his all, it's just mind-building kind of stuff. So who did I fuck to make this come?

Oh, Stanley, don't worry. He got all the credit, and Steve Ditko sleeps at a fucking, you want to talk about sleeping a pile of leaves. That's what Steve Ditko does. I mean, I'm sure he's fine. Sorry, Ditko, almost got you with my rake there. I didn't know you were sleeping there. I'm going to put you in one of them big paper bags and have the man of the dump truck pick you out. Oh, no, don't worry, Dicko.

I got some, ah, what do I got? I got a 20 on me here somewhere. Don't go away, Ditko. Don't go away. Honey, do we got that Chinese food from last night at Steve Dickko again? Here's a hundred Stanley bucks. you could use that to buy comic books and only comic books better get munching

do some fucking research dick so actually speaking of research after I saw this movie I liked it so much I bought one of the comics on the like the Kindle thing and I was reading the you know the first ones from like first appearance yeah yeah it's fucking good out of the gate I think really although I'm actually glad they whitewashed this movie with Tilda Swinton, you know, people were complaining about that

leading up to this movie. I mean, the first couple issues Strange appears in, it's very like Foo Manchu, even, even Strang's, he's drawn as an Asian. And then they eventually like, actually there's like a panel that's like, hey, kids, we're shocked that this was popular. So now we'll tell you Dr. Strange's origin story. And that's when they actually turn him into like, see the white doctor from New York and it's the movie's like a direct adaptation it's like oh really pretty good i mean yeah i do i agree like it's kind i mean it's it's tough because like certainly i don't have as much of a dog in the fight as whitewashing as some people do and i i i get that and i yeah i see the floor to that certainly but i do think that there is

something about making because the character the great the ancient one is a very old stereotype of the old ancient Asian mystic that knows all this stuff. And do they really have anything to do with black magic? Is like Eastern medicine and Eastern philosophy? Is that really black magic?

I guess, I don't know. It's just a grab bag of spellcasting. I feel is the thing. She's good in this and it's kind of cool to make the most powerful character in the movie a woman for sure.

You know what I mean? There's stuff there. For whitewashing, if whitewashing on one side, the opposite of it, the goal is just to put the right, actors in the right roles and she's right in that role

it's not like you wasted it with some shitty person but Wong is actually a pretty strong character and I do think that that dude's great it's actually one of the more sadly it's one of the more diverse Marvel movies because Chitua Lachifour is excellent

in it he's awesome in this movie Michael Michael Stoolbarg's good in getting a bag of kettle potato chips at certain point that's what I want to talk about is what this movie does quite nicely is pepper and just the right amount of comedy it's not like just the right amount of potato chips because it's not it's not like guardians where like we're constantly supposed to be laughing at it and you know it's not like

in a lot of the fight scenes like in guardians where you're still like cracking wise in between punches and whatever but like this movie does have some really nice moments of comedy to it which is cool because it's like in this world where you've got a dude that's got a fucking sentient cape that's punching people in the face and whatever else like it's not taking itself too seriously when it totally could. And you'd be like, all right, here's your fucking big dramatic Doctor Strange movie. But it's got a sense of

humor to it. And even like the ending is just so like him stepping in front of a huge window. Even that has a good sense of humor to it too. Because it is just like your welcome world, your new hero. But it's so kind of over the top. What's the other movie that ends? I'm trying to think, oh, Punisher

ends exactly. the same way. But he's on a bridge, but that's like, it's taking itself too seriously and you're just like, shut up. I just saw John Travolta get dragged through a junkyard. Shut up. I was about to ask, which Punisher? Yeah, that's a good question.

Stay tuned for that punisher. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, no, so I appreciated the comedy in it. I appreciated Chowatel Ejia4. He's fucking awesome in this movie. And the thing about it, and, you know, biggest spoiler ever, I guess, at this point, because now it's like plot pointing here and not just origin story. The character of Mordo is also

another Asian character that they turn African American or African. He kind of looks almost like a monster in the original comic books. Oh, is that right? Yeah, he's got like a giant unibrow and he's bald and he's yeah. Baron Mordo they call him. Barron Mordo, yeah.

And he's kind of, he's a villain like right out of the gate but he's studying under the great one so the great one can keep an eye on him basically. Well, that's what I was going to say. He's very much the Mads-Mickleson role and I guess that's what the Stinger scene is setting up of showing him going bad. I really like this stinger scene because it's not

just like a get ready like it's an actual continuation doing something it's him saying like you know what I got pissed off that Dr. Strange used this like really dark magic to save the world which he's not supposed to like you know there's too many fucking cooks in this

kitchen and his whole thing is like I'm going to hilariously fucking paralyze Benjamin Brat which is great but his whole thing about like I wish I could do that there's no you don't there's too many you know there's too many magicians or there's too many wizards or whatever his sorcerers, you know, I'm going to fucking thin that herd

or whatever, and you're like, oh, cool, he's developing into a villain, Dr. Strange, too. It's villain, idiot. Exactly. That's exactly what's going to be happening and read it. But I do agree. I actually think that, like, I like that better

in the other stinger scene where he's just farting around with Thor for two seconds, and it's like, I'll be in the next door movie. See you later. See you later, America. It's like, oh, were you fucking filming black hat at the time? because that's a fake goddamn Thorgoatee.

I'm tired of the stinger scenes. Honestly, like I do agree that the Chidewell one is good because it actually it continues the movie I was just watching

as opposed to like something that was filmed on a fucking Sunday that they, like that what's his like you know Chris Evans was busy so they're like

oh I don't know get the Thor guy in here but he doesn't have the right hair who cares it's directed by some like fucking stunt man I will say to be there like it's all

Also thrown together in SlapDash. I feel like at least that Stinger scene is brief and it's kind of funny. It is kind of funny. I like the beer bit. Yeah. The beer bit that he's refilling the beer. Yeah, no, it's in and out. It's totally fine.

I like that it's sort of hinting. It's not like Nick Fury coming in. No. I guess, I mean, is it hinting at... Samuel L. Jack said diarrhea that morning. I think it's hinting at that Dr. Strange is going to be in the next Thor movie, right? That's what I was trying to ask. Yeah.

For Ragnarok. Yeah. though I thought a lot of that movie was supposed to be Thor and the Hulk farting around through space. I'm sure at the last five seconds, Dr. Strange will show up and be like, here's that portal you needed. See you later, movie.

Portal delivery. Portals delivery is late. Dr. Strange are delivering some holes. You know what I... Fresh holes for Hulkster. Oh, Lord. There's another really great thing in this movie

that Marvel movies avoid almost entirely. He, like, in his first, like, fight as Dr. Strange, you know, the, the, whatever, there's, like, strongholds that protect magic, blah, blah, blah, can't even get into it. But, sanctums. Sanctoms, thank you. Yeah. So, like, this sanctum is getting attacked, and he, like, fights this dude off and he kills him. And he's got a serious problem about having killed somebody.

And, like, in all these movies, like, fucking, you know, goddamn Captain America is snapping necks, left and right. Tony Stark's shooting people off of cliffs. Nobody gives a shit. And he's like, hold up a second. I don't want to do this. He's like, I'm a doctor. I'm not going to be in your fucking wizard game. I just killed somebody and I have a real problem with it.

Can we sit and talk about this for a second? I was like, what cinematic universe are you a part of right now? Because no one is ever fucking taking a step back and talking about killing people. Which is cool. It draws him as a different character than the rest of them and like when eventually or whatever. He'll have a different stake in the game. And I think that's kind of neat, you know? I think that that's cool.

I really like the ending of this because it is, aside for being trippy and fun, you could see Dormamu who's a big, I usually like it more as a flaming jackalanturn hand, but that's just me and I'm a classic. This is a star fox villain. Yeah, he's a bit of an Andros.

I thought it, I know, I wasn't that from, you know, obviously I wasn't familiar with Darmund or whatever the fuck. Dormamu. Dormammu, I came to bargain. Dormammu, I'm barking again. Hey, Dormammu. I thought it looked kind of cool. I thought the visuals were nice.

It was like, why the fuck isn't Thanos this guy? Like, why do I have to see that purple people here so fucking much? Why is he a cool or looking villain? A radiated gray-tootsie roll, that fucking Thanos. I'm so tired of it. But I think it's cool that it's not a big, I'm going to punch somebody in the nose for an hour and a half. Yes. It's literally him outsmarting him.

It's, you know, using a little bit of trickery, a little develin. Steven Strange. I like that. I love seeing the hero die multiple times. Oh, shoot. That's great. It was a clever fun way to wrap up the movie instead of doing the Hulk's going to punch buildings now for 45 fucking minutes.

It mostly avoids the whole 75 9-11s cliche. Yes. And they write themselves into all the right places. Right. They're just like it's a superhero movie, man. You can do anything. And

just like there's another dimension we can fight in so we can use anything we want but it doesn't affect the other world yeah fight yeah totally yeah and go that's that's so once i heard that i just really was just like i can just enjoy all of this movie now yeah because right now marvel has written itself overall and its overall arc it's written itself to a corner because it's not it's now all about collateral damage yeah and this movie could have no collateral damage because of where they are in their story. Right. Because it's like even though, you know, Hannibal himself, Mads Mickleton,

is like knocking down this building and this big fucking wormholes opening up and whatever else. Like, Strange is using this spell almost immediately to like reverse time. So it's like it's already in a gimmick. Yeah. And there's also that just that alternate dimension that they can be in and fight. The mirror dimension, yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.

And I don't know why other movies don't do that. You can't always have a mirror dimension It's sabotage It's the mirror dimension That's true Nack, get in here Get into the mirror Oh, Nack and Lucy

Or whatever Lizzie Lizzie get in here There's supposed to be no girls In the mirror dimension I'm making an exception Grind up You broke the mirror

That's seven years The funny thing is We get a nice Stan Lee cameo He's almost annoyed By the mirror dimension Because he's on a bus He's like, ah, let me channel Steve Ditko. Imagine myself on a bus.

I had to sneak on through the back door because I couldn't make the fare. Reading the doors of perception, by the way. Is he really? Oh, weird. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, Mads Mikkelson is in the mighty Marvel tradition

of annoying the hero for about 41 minutes of screen time and not ultimately mattering all that much. He's a heavy. I mean, he's cool. I like Mads Mikkelson a lot. I just don't think that he does. There's a whole lot in this movie. You know, I can see that being a fault,

but I view it as a strength because I'm so tired of hearing about, oh, and this is Clyde Fargadoo, and this is what his logo is. Dude, I fucking hate Clyde Fargadoo, first of all. I fucking hate that piece of shit. But, like, I'm tired of the exposition of what all these characters are. Okay, he's a disciple that went bad, and he's doing some fucked up shit, whatever.

I don't, I feel like it could easily, and they often do fall into such mustache twirling. Yeah. And I feel like it kind of avoided that in this movie. It does. Yeah. No, no, I got nothing. Well, no, I was just going to say,

I don't know if you got to it in the comics yet, but what's also nice about putting Mads Mikkelson in this role is that Clyde Faradu was actually drawn like a Fu Manchu type character. You took the floor for a fake one. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get Steve to talk. But actually, speaking of that, I think that Wong, I forget the actor's name, the guy who plays Wong. He's actually Benedict Wong

Who's actor's name He's great in The Martian And it's a good pickup And it's nice He's in Prometheus too For a hot second He's a good actor And you know what I mean

It's a nice role And like it seems like They're gonna expand him more In the next movie And I'm into that Yeah Tilda Switten's dead by the way So the white wash

The whitewash ends in a grave Which is appreciated It becomes a redwash I love that she remains dead At the end of this movie There's no fucking Dirt Tittering anywhere He's reading a book

and like Star Wars ghosts come out Exactly Dude man Her eaten pavement is one of the best parts She said that's it And you guys Talking a lot about movies Like an unsanctomious death

Yeah And this like smacked of that But felt really Like yeah she fell off that building She's gone man She's totally gone And I love that fucking scene Of her and strange

They're doing the out of body experience They're out on like The patio or whatever And she's like you know look at me here I am you know I have all this knowledge this power blah blah blah and yet like I'm still scared of death I'm wasting all this time so I can look out at the snow like it's a fucking awesome moment you do not have in Marvel movies and I actually and yeah I think is what they do with these smaller movies we'll call them smaller movies like Antman does

this a little pretty well as well and not only the visual trickery and fun like they can have a little bit more fun with it but like the character actually gets from A to Z in a movie and I love that he doesn't he realizes that he can't actually save her at the end he has to give it to Michael Schulberg who has to put down a bag of jalapeno and kettle chips

and boy do they look tasty you want to talk about wanting food and that's what another like tiny detail and it's like it's in these tiny details that make this movie so much greater than a lot of the Marvel movies at the end of the movie

like he's looking out that window and he looks and his hands are still shaking and like yeah he's like this master wizard now or whatever and he could totally do the Benjamin Brat spell and make his hands fine but he fucking doesn't and it's a reminder of his like you know ego and whatever and he keeps himself fucked up it's such an awesome detail that they put in I also sorry no I was just going to say that another thing I appreciate is it's lean it's short god bless America shorter than star wars which is a rarity in Marvel movies what you think of the world building that this

movie has to do, and that for no one who remembers, or anyone who doesn't remember, rather, the expression shorter than Star Wars, or longer than Star Wars, is because we say, you know, Star Wars, the first Star Wars movie does so well at building this entire universe in like two hours and three minutes. Dr. Strange, very similarly, builds this entire fucking magical world in an hour and 55 minutes. Are you shitting me? It's well fleshed out. It doesn't feel shallow.

I know where he is, where he has to go. Yeah, yeah. Where their powers are, where they need to, where they can go, where they can't go. Totally. The fact is, is that, talk about writing yourself into a smart place, making libraries a central location is, like, super smart. Because it's like, any time you need something for new, there's always a book on that shelf. Just look at Buffy, the Vampire Slayer TV show, man. They were always hanging out in that library.

Also, I was never checking my watch. No. You know, because some of these, like, like Civil War, it's. It's just like, yeah, I enjoyed it enough, but it's just like, and now we're going to talk about all the collateral damage, like you were saying. And it's just like, Jesus fucking Christ. Can we get to the movie? Yeah, yeah. When are we going to get to the fucking fireworks factory? Exactly. When is, when our building's going to turn in on themselves? When is Tilda Switten going to eat pavement? Oh, man.

For her crimes against Asian America. When is she going to fucking eat it? Teeth first, man. And, you know, I wasn't checking my watch. I had a fucking bad audience. I was sitting next to a guy. I was in one of those theaters. They got these upscale theaters now where everybody's got Barka loungers. So everyone's reclining.

But the thing about when you're sitting next to a stranger in these two-seater situations. A doctor-stanger? No, no, you don't want to pull a doctor-stranger in the theater. No. That is when you just grab somebody's... Yeah, it's a surprise physical. You got it, you sit on your hand for a while.

And then you just grab someone else's crotch. Oh, what a mystical adventure. You put your right hand through medical school. And then you sit on it. Yeah. And then it's like, it's weird because it's like, it's like your astral projecting because then your hands numb. You don't feel the sensation of rubbing someone else's couch.

Yeah, you don't even know who you're checking off. It's like getting one in the mirror zone. This is strange. No, but this dude commits the fucking sin of, like, he's reclined and he's got his hands behind his head. Oh, come on. Just like kicking back, dude. It sucked. I had that guy, and I, man, I had a real fucking D-plus audience.

There's a dude two rows in front of me picking up the cell phone towards the end of the movie. At which point, I yelled the fucking asshole because I couldn't take it anymore. Oh, wow. By the way, you're no longer the hero, the theater hero. No, come on. Bendy Throne. No, I got to say, no, I mean, well, actually, with Steve, no one reacted either. Nobody reacted with me.

But then they did the thing, like, the day new ma' happens, like, you know, the knot is untied, the movie's heading towards credits, but we're not there just yet. These people are getting up to leave. Boy, I can't stand that. You've been here. You sat through 30 minutes of credits. You sat through two, almost two hours of this movie. Like, just give it the three more minutes that's left.

Where did you see it? Upper West Side, 84th, and Broadway. Yeah, but in New York, it's not like you're going to beat the traffic. That's, dude, that was my exact thought. I was like, what are you racing? What are you racing for? You're already at a movie. You're at a 915 movie on a Monday night.

You already fucking made the sacrifice to stay up late on a work night. That's so stupid. Three minutes. And, I mean, I actually didn't see any of the stingers just because I saw like an 11-something and I was just busted. I feel like, so like, I mean, feel free. On the flip side of that, feel free not to watch the Stingers. I agree.

I'm never going to be like, excuse me, the movie hasn't ended yet. No, the Stingers is, no, you can get out of the theater. I will say I was next to a really annoying couple. Was it? No, no, it wasn't you? It was Stephen as Dr. Stranger. That's what I was thinking. Hello, Dr. Stranger.

I made another person by sitting on my hand. So tell me of this couple. So one of the couple, I was like, you know, Ditko, I paid for you a ticket. Dude, is Steve Dicco still alive? No, yeah, he is. And I'm sure he's doing very well. No, he's fucked. How about a Dr. Stranger?

No. He's sleeping on leaves, dude. No, he, uh, the guy goes to the woman. He's like, oh, do you, the movie's ending, look, just credits like, better to camaraderette. Like, do you think there's a secret scene? And I wanted to, I've never been so embarrassed being in any way. Dude, haven't you been going to superhero movies for the last fucking 10 years?

He wasn't joking? No, he wasn't. not joking. Yeah, he wanted to know if there was a secret scene. He was excited. What did she say? Did you hear the response? No, she just like drank her soda and was like, just like, let's just watch. That's a response in its own way. It sure is. He

asks this every time. I mean, yeah, I just think that we're done with the stinger scene because like, especially Dr. Strange, it leaves you with a really good, like, this was a movie. It wasn't a Marvel movie. This is a movie and the movie has ended and I know who the credits are and that's it. And let's get out of here. This is like all

these fucking stinger scenes, that's like your web series online, Marvel. Totally, totally. For more, go here and you can watch three minutes like they do with Battlestark. If and when Dr. Strange shows up in the Ragnarok, I'll be like, oh, I know why. Or they'll just have to say 30 seconds of like,

oh, thanks for coming by. Wouldn't it be rad if you were just watching a movie and something happened that you weren't anticipating? That would be great. Heaven forbid everybody. And also with the Chihuetel scene where he goes back to Benjamin Brat, you just placed that as the second to last scene,

in the movie. That would have been perfect there. Or the cold open to your movie. Holy shit. Right. If it's in part two? Remember Benjamin Bratt? Like, oh, fuck.

You know, he was wearing that Adidas jacket. Now he's in real trouble. He sure was. By the way, Dr. Strange, if you are real, could you turn back the last week? Yeah. Oh, my God.

And send him into the dark zone or whatever the fuck it's going. Oh, Wisconsin, you mean? Yes, exactly. Wherever Dormonu. or whatever the fuck lives. Dormammu, I'm here to negotiate. Oh, do Mammu, as of January 20th, he'll be at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Oh, right, yeah. That's great.

That's W.HM. On Screen for Marvel's Doctor Strange. Until next time, I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadey. Eric Siska. Just in case. Take it easy. Thank you.