We Hate Movies - S7: WHM On-Screen: Ranking the "Halloween" Franchise

Episode Date: October 28, 2016

Happy Halloween! On this special WHM On-Screen, the gang chats about the entire Halloween franchise and ranks each film! Where do the guys put Halloween III: Season of the Witch? What is the worst seq...uel? And what about those Hellbilly Zombie movies? Coming 2017: The Elm Street franchise? Cover Art by Felipe SobreiroUnlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's entitled to one good scare. Sometimes that is better. Zombies of interest the building. They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your acquaintance with the Wickham. They're coming to get you, Barbara.
Starting point is 00:00:36 He's sick for fucks. He's seen one too many movies. Now, sit! Don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos. More creative! Put the fucking lotion in the back!
Starting point is 00:00:53 It's an excellent day for an exorcism. Hello, everyone, and welcome to a very special W.HM on screen. I'm Andrew Jupe. alongside the whole gang, Christopher Cabin, Eric Siska, Stephen Sadek. We are talking the Halloween movie franchise. Now, you may remember from last year did something similar, the old Friday the 13th series. But this is a different movie series.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It's a different movie series. That's different. Really outside the box this year, we're doing the exact same thing. Oh, yeah, it's going to be fun. By the killer that is probably the most like Jason, I would say. Yeah, spiritual cousin. Kissing Cousins. Not talking like that Fred Krueger.
Starting point is 00:01:32 That might be next year's on screen. Oh, no. I can't rewatch those movies. You gotta do it, man. And then you gotta watch Jackie Earl Haley do whatever he's doing. That movie sucks. It's so fucking bad. I skipped it.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's so bad. You're so right. We're gonna do it next year. We got to talk about that movie. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's that movie so bad. It's like episode worth it. I saw that shit in theaters.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Did you really? I bet you did. You were a big Jackie head. Yeah, I was. I was. You were. I was. You were. I thought he was really good. Chris, have you ever seen Dull Man? I haven't yet. That's a stay tuned, but he's in it is like one of the villains.
Starting point is 00:02:08 You did tell me and you have pushed that on me several occasions. Doll Man is a documentary about Joe Pantleana. Is that correct? Similar. His love of dolls. It's similar. It's that one guy from the wrong guys who's also in trancers. I know. I looked up the cast at some point. Tim Thomerson, it's sort of like Antman, but without any powers, he's just a little guy. Yeah. I've tried to well. Watch that movie like six times. Which one? Dahlman?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Got to do it, dude. I also watch trancers. Trancers I've seen. Doll man, I just kept falling asleep. Oh, I'll wake up. Speaking of waking up, Halloween, the franchise. Now, if you recall from the Friday of the 13th episode that we did, go back and check that out.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's in the archives. We go through the series chronologically, and we say where we rated these things. Now, this was, of course, based off of a Chris Cabin article that he posted last year um rating these right that's i did the friday the friday the 13th for collider um it was more of a manifesto though a bit a bit of my intentions yeah i was pretty you got off track i was radical i was i was what i would call it radical but it was fun because you were in germany were like how do we engage with chris cabin who we thought was we pretty much assumed you were dead we're a little disappointed or not so we decided to i mean we big to we digged a big pit
Starting point is 00:03:29 we're going to bury you what part of New York upstate man you wanted to be by you uh I would imagine we scatter your remains around Albany sure in the tussles in the dirtier areas but yeah
Starting point is 00:03:43 well maybe Utica sure Albany land is expensive it's fun this year that you're here as well and now we'll all go through it and we'll go and see where we all thought these movies were ranked that's right I think so I think it's safe to say how to win 78 that's the top
Starting point is 00:03:59 of everybody's list, right? Yeah, I mean, it's just the best. It is what it is. I have it at number one. I'll get to you. I was re-watching it, and it's like, not only is it like a good horror movie, it's just an all-out good movie.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. It's a well-made, well-shot, well-crafted movie made by people who know how to make movies. It's incredibly efficient without, like, feeling restrained. Like, which is a really big thing with these kinds of movies.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It's simple as shit. I mean, that's the best. part about it. Yeah. It's just a creepier way to kill somebody, like, then stabbing or, you know, all sorts of chainsaws. Like, just manhands on your neck until you stop breathing. That's really great. That's a great way to do it. And I think, I mean, there are stabbings, but they're all like, none of them are gushers. No, no gushers, fruit snack kills. But it's also like, the biggest thing about it, dude, is any dunkeroo's. There's a couple of dunkeroo's in the sequels. But it's like, it's a stealthy way to kill somebody
Starting point is 00:04:59 like that's the biggest thing like I when we get to later on down some of these sequels he's fucking breaking through doors like a Dudley boy yeah you know this is like he's quietly taking out all these people very systematically and he's super strong but he's like Captain America strong he's not
Starting point is 00:05:15 like Superman strong like later in those movies he is oh my god that's just ridiculous I do like the fact that he he sets up a perfect John Carpenter he sets up like this perfect atmosphere of quiet suburbia like anybody who's lived in those kinds of
Starting point is 00:05:33 areas knows that like you walk outside at 10 p.m. 11 p.m. at night it is that quiet. It's that quiet and also like it totally captures those like burbs halloweons too. Like that there's I can't I'm I'm not able to think of another movie
Starting point is 00:05:51 that captures like such accurate atmosphere yeah is that. I like obviously Donald Pleasant's is awesome minute he's a great addition to that before the character became a joke he's like he's got his white whale and he's going through and no one believes him and like he's right but it's creepy my favorite
Starting point is 00:06:08 line that he has is when he's hiding outside the house waiting for Michael Myers to show up like in the middle of the movie most of the movies got his hands at his pockets waiting for the movie to end playing pocket pool but it's those kids are going like you go up to the Myers house no you go up and he goes Lonnie
Starting point is 00:06:24 get your ass out of that house The line is away from there. Away from there, yeah. I'm sorry, I've seen this like a thousand times. Yeah, get your ass. Lonnie, get that sweet ass away from that Myers house. You're going to blow up my spot. That Harvey Fireston?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, that's the original casting. Yeah, classic movie that I could watch like three to four times a year. I'd be totally fine with it. So Halloween 2, where do we have this one? this I had oh gosh you forgot already well I had it at number three
Starting point is 00:07:01 that's where it is on my list that's where that's me too I haven't at number six I haven't in number four ooh yeah I've never seen any I've only seen before this endeavor I had only seen one three
Starting point is 00:07:15 and the curse of Michael Myers like two years ago and then like Halloween one the Rob Zombie movie I never saw this one and everyone was like oh it's the one in the hospital it's like almost as good
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'd heard that a bunch. I was just really disappointed with it. It just didn't do it for me. I really like that. It's like one of these movies that takes place immediately after the last one. It picks up and runs with it. And I think it does a good job with it. So many people who try to do that just fail with it.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Well, and I do think the one thing I do really give it and why it is a little up, why it moved up a little bit more on my list, was that it does look as almost as good as Carpenter's movie. yeah it has almost the same feel but the problem for me is like because you're in this hospital the whole time all that atmosphere we were just talking about it's like totally out the window absolutely and it's also like an abandoned hospital for no reason and a hospital that is un inappropriately decorated for Halloween how about we don't decorate our hospital for any holiday yeah with what with all the sick and dying in the building and also like what is it a fucking town holiday like why is it closed but I will tell you having lived with a medical care professional for many years. Oh, yeah, you were sick for a while. They do do that shit. Oh, they do, like, decorate for valet day or whatever. Hold the phone now.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You're saying that in a hospital, they'll put up pictures of skulls outside. No, I don't think it's... I think it's jolly pumpkins more. Yeah, that you love that. Well, there's that, like, innocent drugstore Halloween type shit. Oh, yeah, like the ghosts. Don't tell me about ghosts. I'm going to be one. Well, you're not
Starting point is 00:08:49 going to be a cartoon ghost, though. If the whole works out. all goes according to plan I will definitely be a cartoon There are some highlights in this movie I do like that one kid dressing like Michael Myers And then getting fucking lit on fire
Starting point is 00:09:03 Ben Tramer Yeah Ben Tramer He was gonna ask Lori out on a date But he got destroyed in a car accident And that is a total fucking All on you Sam Loomis You pervert He's like there he is
Starting point is 00:09:17 Get him! Touch him first That's also Tramer get your ass into that car accident that's also a big where is I going with this
Starting point is 00:09:29 oh it's a big like Charles Bronson explosion too it's just like one car hits another one and a fireball erupts it's I mean the thing for me is like
Starting point is 00:09:39 it is I like the ending I like some of the stuff in the middle I don't like and maybe I'm alone here that Lori and Michael Myers are brother and sister
Starting point is 00:09:47 it's just the dumbest shit it's just it's a lazy twist and I like the idea that you don't know why he's after her in the first one. But then now every movie after that, except for three has carried on that. That's the thing. And that's the problem. It like, it sets the precedent for this downward spiral that sort of kills all these sequels. I'm kind of really ambivalent about it. Like, I kind of feel that too. Yeah, like, I just don't think it changes the story
Starting point is 00:10:10 all that much. Like, it's not like they keep, I mean, they do bring it up. But it's not to the point where I'm sitting there and just like hearing about like, we're family. We're family. Well, think about this, though. Like, So, Judith Myers gets murdered. Michael Myers goes into, you know, Smith's Grove. Those parents, I guess, just ski-dattle. And what, leave her in the same fucking town? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:33 That doesn't make any sense. Like, if you went to go, like, live with the state and then we're eventually adopted, what are the odds you're coming back to the same neighborhood? They die, right? Because it isn't like he grave robbing his mother's grave in that first movie? No, that's the sister. Oh, I'm thinking of the sequel there, or the remake, that's what they do. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And when he steals the headstone, it's from, Judith Myers, the sister that was murdered. But so it's like, you know, why would you just be relocated down the street to the strode? And also take the kid with you. I guess the family just broke up at that point. Oh, they're ruined. They all went their separate ways.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, I bet there was at least one suicide and someone's destitute, I feel. At that point, you're living in a van, becoming a drifter, trying to forget. Trying to get enough enough coins for the wash every. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Other than that, your only care is what, you know, what's at the end of the bottle. Try to figure that out. Get to the worm. So this brings us, of course, to Halloween 3, Season of the Witch. Previous episode, I will say, fan favorite episode. Yeah, I would say it's an episode. I had this at number two. One of my favorites. Eric isn't on that episode.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It's one of my absolute favorites. Yeah, that's why I hate that episode. I had it at number two. Yeah, it's number two for me, too. Number two. three wow i mean it's like we were talking about this off the air too earlier today like yeah we did an episode on it we've done commentaries on it we've made fun of it quite a bit but like for me it's different it's watchable it's got an awesome soundtrack tom adkins is fucking hilarious
Starting point is 00:12:09 is this bad doctor it's got a good mood which a lot of these movies don't have either it is very carpentierian in a long way we watch ability factors high in making this list like you know so i can rewatch that movie a hundred I was going to say any day, but that's wrong. Every few months, I'd say, at least maybe once a year. I'd say twice a year. Twice a year I could do this one.
Starting point is 00:12:32 When are you watching this? This is probably a Halloween. No, no, no, no, no. That's all, it's Christmas vacation, baby. That's our Christmas Eve movie in my house. And maybe a little bad Santa. Maybe put that there. You can fucking put that movie.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I can throw it off a boat. Agreed. I can put it where I like. Yeah. bend over and I'll show you where to fucking put a crap. I'm not going to do that. All right, guys, stop fighting. The vacation movies, that might be a fun thing to do
Starting point is 00:13:00 like a franchise rating in the future. I'll tell you what it'll be at rock bottom is that fucking remake with Ed Helms or reboot or whatever the shit. Now, when we do this, which I think is a very good idea, do we have to do Uncle Eddie's something? Oh, God, we might have to. I think, you know, for completion's sake,
Starting point is 00:13:20 I don't know. It has to at least have the vacation. title on it. Okay. I think it does have to have it. I think that movie is like Christmas vacation to Christmas vacation to Uncle or cousin Eddie's tropical fuck all or what you know. And that that's funny talking about Triptopal Hala. The canon of the vacation series. I wouldn't now that new vacation movie you saw it, Andrew. Is that is that carrying on? He's he's he's rusty Chevy Chase and Beverly DeAngelo are in it. Chevy Chase looks like to steal a line from Steve he was stung by a whole bunch of bees
Starting point is 00:13:56 he's like obese looking in that movie was really weird. And he did not want to be there. I think he's totally drunk through the whole thing to be completely honest with you. It's fucking terrible. Back to the season of the witch. I mean, which again, we don't need to go all the way through it because you see our episode
Starting point is 00:14:12 on it. Nipple sucking. I think a lot of cool deaths, the little kid death. I have a theory that strong Halloween movies and strong. And that's Halloween one ends really strongly. But the door still open. It should always have the door open, but don't like announce it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Also Irish villains. Yeah, it's always good. You don't get that much. No, you don't. And who could trust the Irish, really? I could never, I can't even look at them in the eye. So I used to yell at my grandparents all the time. So then we get to Halloween for the return of Michael Myers.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I had this right at number four, actually. So did I. I got number three for me. Oh, six. Chris Cab with a downvote. I like this movie a lot. I think it's, it kind of is, if there's ever a regular, quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:15:03 regular Halloween movie, this is it. You got Michael Myers. He's doing it. You've got Loomis. He's running around. And I do think the stuff with Jamie is kind of cool. And it ends really strongly. It ends strongly.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And it's, interestingly, from like a stylistic standpoint, this is like it's 1988 they're just trying to compete with the like slasher mania yeah this is just like you remove all of the John Carpenter's stylization from the first two movies and even some of the stylization from
Starting point is 00:15:33 Season of the Witch and it's just a fucking slasher movie which is interesting like the blood is all over the place there's that hilarious gas station explosion yep Donald Pleasant stunt double in that movie oh there's also that guy at the electrical company or whatever he's he's
Starting point is 00:15:49 He's mouthing off to the wrong guy. I'll tell you that much. Well, that's what's weird. It's like he lays siege to that town because he throws that guy into the electrical thing and the town goes dark. I love it. He takes out the entire police force. Like, it's kind of like taken with Michael Myers. That's how you, you know, if you're going to do this at home, I don't suggest you go on a killing rampage.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Instead of cutting, and I'm not condoning that at all, I have to say that for legal purposes. Of course. That's right. Don't cut the lines or power to a house. Cut it for the whole town. Take the whole grid out. That's right. Go big or go home. With your home invasions.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I like the hillbillies that go after him. I like the little... Oh, God. Mob justice, dude. Thank you. There's a lot of parts to this movie, which I like. It moves a lot. Like, now we're just in a house for a while.
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of that kind of stuff. I enjoy it. And I do think the end of Jamie killing her mother seemingly is pretty fucking cool. I watched it years ago. and I was like, oh, this is trash. But then I rewatched for this little countdown we were doing it. I was like, this is way better than I thought.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Same with me. Like, I got this box set on Blu-ray last year and I blew through it. And this was way lower. I already, like, ranked them last year. So then, like, editing through, I was like, no, this is way higher for whatever reason. I thought it was trash before. I think it's, I mean, for me, it's just okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Like, there are good parts of it. But, like, overall, I felt like there was a lot of downtime more than I was. ready to deal with you also have the dude who's like I guess like the jockish guy who's from dazed and confused oh I guess he's denim overalls from dazed and confused
Starting point is 00:17:30 um you got that cheating on his girlfriend he has like a real romantic cheating on his girlfriend oh yeah in front of a fire find me a fucking 18 year old kid who's fucking in front of a buyer like this I'll give you a thousand dollars I bet you could find one we can make that happen
Starting point is 00:17:45 I mean it's like they're like spending a night it's in reality it's like jerk me off before your dad comes on while the game is on yeah this is like some Batman returns fucking like him and Michelle Pfeiffer going at it I love that the sex is unrealistic I got a real problem with it
Starting point is 00:18:05 I also got a real problem with limping Loomis jumping behind that ice machine yeah right stunt double the one thing about Loomis in this movie is like at the end of two which is one of the best parts of two which it ends strongly is Loomis fucking goes to hell tonight, right? Like, he should be dead.
Starting point is 00:18:21 They're in a small room. He's suicide bombs himself, yeah. With, with oxygen tanks everywhere. And this, he looks like he had a bad, like, a bad puberty. Like, his face is a little bit scraggly. Like, he's got like, dude, you've got nothing left. It's like, oh, if Michael Myers can never die, well, you bring back the doctor. I mean, I'm glad he's back in it, but it's just a little bit hard to swallow there.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I mean, I feel like if he's not, if you're bringing Michael Myers back the first time, you know, since Season of the Witch and Loomis isn't there nobody's watching that movie because you're already absent Jamie Lee Curtis who died I guess off screen is the idea yeah and they then they
Starting point is 00:18:59 explain it later in the franchise but yeah she's just she went away what's awesome dude it's so lazy though so like so Danielle Harris's character Jamie is the daughter of her and there's the part where she like opens the shoe box and it's like memories
Starting point is 00:19:14 of mom and she pulls out this photo it's definitely just a production still of Jamie Lee Curtis from the first movie she's holding the pumpkin and like laughing on set oh mom always loved Halloween yeah we're a real Halloween family so stupid uh which then so that takes us right into Halloween 5 the revenge of Michael Myers uh I had this at seven eight uh six 10 rock bottom wow okay yeah and can I tell you why watch it again in a year maybe you'll adjust just a year off on appreciating all of these
Starting point is 00:19:48 no and I'll tell you why this is the movie that introduces all that ruin of Thorne horse shit and I just I can't forgive it for that it fucking sucks
Starting point is 00:19:57 it's so stupid yeah a man in black at the end yeah it's a weaker one it's just like they don't know what they're doing anymore no my other rule
Starting point is 00:20:06 so my rule for good Halloween movies is they end strong my rule for bad Halloween movies is they undo the ending of the previous movie which is this one because
Starting point is 00:20:15 the end of four is awesome because Jamie kills her mother and then in this one she didn't kill her mother she just badly slashed her and now she's in a mental institution and wet fart and she's not evil at all
Starting point is 00:20:25 like if this was about her like a good guy it's like it's like she's it's like one of those Ewak movies and she's the little girl and Sindell yeah she's Sindel
Starting point is 00:20:37 and Loomis is Wicket Oh oh about size the one thing I give this thing that's an ass a rufferbler Sorry
Starting point is 00:20:49 I will doctor That's a great Halloween costume EWalk Dr. Loomis You still have some time Hopefully All you need is a little bear costume There's a danger to that
Starting point is 00:21:02 Because if you dress up like an EWalk With a trench coat People think you're just a perv Oh yeah Oh yeah that is a that is Perv-O-Rama They're going to be looking at your groin either way Yeah Yeah sure E-Walk
Starting point is 00:21:13 gross what are you saying cabin i was going to say the fifth one i will say the one thing i give it is it kind of looks good yeah it does it's uh one of the better shot ones but like i was so bored by this yeah it's a boring movie i was bored two tears because they killed in the in the fourth one jamie's sister is kind of the sort of new lorry ish and then they kill her in the beginning and then it's like Jamie's sister's friend is kind of the protagonist for a bit, which is not the same girl who's friends with her in the fourth one who is named Lindsay and originally it was going to be the grown-up version of the girl from the little girl from the first movie and they were like, eh, we don't have the money for that whole storyline and just cut it, but they still
Starting point is 00:22:01 named her Lindsay. And this woman is just in this one scene like, she's like, remember she's like, all right, so where am I driving you? the Halloween shop or the ice cream shop. I'm like, that's it. Like, that was supposed to be that character. That's weird. Now it's some new party animal friend. No thanks. This is the one where she asks Michael Myers to buy a pack of
Starting point is 00:22:20 cigarettes. Oh, yes. I forgot. Which he reluctantly does. Which is like that's what you've just ended Halloween for me. The fact that like these monsters are like, and I understand he can be calculating or whatever, but to the point of stopping to buy cigarettes. Calculating. I just don't buy it.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I don't buy it. He's thinking too far ahead at this Calculated is one thing. After the cigarettes. Instinct. Right when she's complaining about it, just slash her throat. All right, I'll buy her dinner. We'll go out and then I'll kill her. Her defenses will be down if I take her out to a nice steak dinner first.
Starting point is 00:22:54 She'll be nice and full. See, that storyline of take a girl out for a nice dinner and then kill her. Now you're just a regular killer. Yeah. A regular hugged, don't killer. You're just like any one of us. You're not like a supernatural, cool, weird. mysterious entity.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah. You're not the shape at this point. No. No. You're the cheapskate. Yes. That's the best. How does this one even end? Well, it ends with the man of black, but it begins with Michael being revived by like in this Mad Max colony or whatever the fuck's going on. It's still no, because you see him like fall into a river, which also like, I'm sorry, if I fall into a river with a Halloween mask on, guess what the first fucking thing that's coming off is. You see him like floating down this waterway with his mask. Well, he gets sunny Corleone at the end of four, which I like. Yeah, that was great. It's pretty great. It's pretty great. Um, so no, then
Starting point is 00:23:42 he's, he just, it's kind of like the old Frankenstein gag. Yeah. Yeah. Like, he comes upon this old man in the woods and he's like, hurt. So this old man spends a year reviving him. He gets caught in this guy's like fishing nets or whatever. But then he just, he's like, oh, what's that? Well, look at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:58 It's Halloween and just murders this guy and takes off. What a jerk. Big time jerk. He fucking he spent time and, you know, maybe some money and energy. And ate the man's vittles. Right. Michael, I got those highlights you wanted. This is a lesson
Starting point is 00:24:14 to everyone at home. Don't help anyone. Oh, no. No way. What are you talking about? Especially if you catch him up river. Don't help anyone over 6'3. You know what? That's a little bit dangerous. And never help river people. Very good. So, Halloween
Starting point is 00:24:30 colon, the curse of Michael Myers. This was part of our Halloween spooktacular this year. And I think, let's not separate these in producers and theatrical just the movie yes there's not that there's not a big difference yeah that it would matter uh yeah hard 10 hard 10 wow i got it at 9 i got it at 9 as well i have it at 7 oh no i'm sorry no i'm sorry yes i do have an answer what where is where is it's it number 9 number 9 number 9 i got it oh wow you know what it's a bad fucking movie i hate it sure and i hate it's cuts but i just
Starting point is 00:25:02 hate everything else a little more yeah there's a lot to hate in this thing yeah i mean it's fine We've, we went through it. I mean, like, C.R. It makes no sense. Boring as fucking shit. But I'll tell you, just one of the dumbest things ever
Starting point is 00:25:15 because it's just a case of an actor doesn't want to have putty on his face is fucking Dr. Loomis. It's like, look at all this plastic surgery I had. Nice try, Dr.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Loomis. That's fine. That's just really fine. It looks like they botched it. Yeah, burn victims look better when they get older. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Also, that fucking face makeup does not hold up when you're watching these movies on Blu-ray. It's like you got like fucking oatmeal on your face, Loomis. It's just so old and crazy. You fucked up
Starting point is 00:25:48 eating breakfast and no one has the heart to tell him. Oh, that's sad. It flies open all the time. They just leave him be. Oh my God. That reminds me of a man I saw on an airplane once and it was the most tragic thing. He was hunting
Starting point is 00:26:04 a 6'4 shape of a monster yeah it was me no but he went to the bathroom on the airplane and when he was coming back it was like this was an old time here you understand probably his last flight loose corduroy jacket
Starting point is 00:26:18 his cock was out no but close and he's walking back down the aisle and I notice from his pants there is an entire like roll almost it's not like a roll of toilet
Starting point is 00:26:34 paper but it's like a streamer. Oh, wow. Flying from the back of his pants while he's walking down the aisle. That's embarrassing. I felt bad. Not as much as his cock. Not as bad.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Not as bad. Not as bad. I think I'd rather have my cock out. What are you looking at? I know it's out. That's the point. Had to report a guy for jerking off in Bryant Park. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So you reported yourself. Yes. Was he cut? I got to put myself in. See Chris's 2004. movie The Panic in Brian Park. Very good. Well received. Right. And in that character
Starting point is 00:27:13 study, that scary character study, it was all about this character Chris Cabin who, the thrill of being caught was like part of what got him off. Really just overwhelming. This is what happened there? I caught a guy jerking off.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Were you like, hey, stop jerking off? No. Was it in his pants? Did he have it fully out? Did the sun hit the rays of the sun? All he was wearing. was a Hangout basketball shorts. Oh, that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Yeah, you see a guy in basketball shorts, and I'm telling this to not on the court, not on the court. Right, yes, you could wear it in the court. But if you see a guy who go into the mall, going to get some food wearing basketball shorts, I'm sorry, but that guy has got a jerk-off problem. Well, this, it's unhinged.
Starting point is 00:28:03 This fella, this fella, because I worked for the institution at that time at Brian Park. It was just a secret government law? It was. And he disturbed it. What is the acronym Brian to spell out? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I'll get back to you. Brutal repetition. No, I don't know. Brutal repetition. Dead already. That's what masturbation is. No, this guy was just like looking at these two ladies having lunch and he was
Starting point is 00:28:32 jerking his dick off. Oh, no. Well, at least it was just his dick he was jerking off. No, it wasn't, like, more than that. What else would he be jerking off with balls? Maybe, I don't know. How do you do things? Good Lord. He's playing for keeps.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Oh, God. Let's move on. Yes, the seventh film in the installment, Halloween H20 years later from 1998 or something like that. Yeah, 98, 20 years exactly. This is Jamie Lee Curtis, returning to the franchise and a whole bunch of WB actors. I hated this.
Starting point is 00:29:06 this movie. Okay. I did, but it's number five on my list. It's five for me too. It's five as well. Wow. Seven. Okay. I liked it. This is also one of like my first ever DVDs, so this is like a, I've seen it like 20 times. I saw it in the theater.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Ooh, look at you. I did too, yeah. I did see this in theater. I didn't do it. I waited to buy it on DVD for probably like $27. I saw it with a raucous crowd. It was like an opening night scenario and some guy. was dressed up like Michael Myers
Starting point is 00:29:38 and scaring everybody in the audience. Man, you know what? That fucking sucks. Yeah, it was not a fun. I was like, dude, just go away. Because that's like, that's like cats when they come into the audience.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Like audience participation. We're not watching Stab right now. Dude, like get out of here. It's fine. Just sit down and watch the movie. That's the problem. They're not just going to sit down and watch the movie. They're going to come up to you
Starting point is 00:30:04 and pretend to stab you like an asshole. Wait a second. Wait a second. He was doing it during the movie? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like he would scare like girls. Oh, yeah. Well, you could have to jerk it off. I didn't see if he was wearing basketball shorts or not. Well, he was wearing a gas station attendance uniform. Also probably had a camera on him. I guarantee you underneath that jumpsuit was basketball shorts.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Bright orange ones. Bright bright orange ones. Yep. He's a Knicks fan. The biggest problem with this movie is that it's made in a post-scream society. Good Lord is. So all these kids are just witty and annoying. Like any other You know Mainstream garbage horror movie In the 90s
Starting point is 00:30:42 And you know It's not good But you can watch it I guess It looks better Than I thought it would Especially this The one that comes after The one we're about to talk to
Starting point is 00:30:53 It looks like shit Yeah This one actually kind of looks good And we had an actor In this movie We got an actor We got a couple actors We got a couple actors
Starting point is 00:31:01 Alan Arkins in this movie Oh also cool J's in this movie Oh excuse me deepest, bluest. This is also one of the scariest movies. Oh, really? You know, because you're watching the opening credits, and this is where it really jumps out of you.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It scares you. It scares you. Turns your hair white, Chris. Introducing Josh Hartman. Yeah. You can't take that one back. Those were a rough few years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He needs to tuck his fucking shirt in in this movie, huh? Please do. This is like a... Also, the tie is supposed to go around your neck. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. we are cool kids in a private school and that's how you do things right Steve yeah no you don't and did
Starting point is 00:31:41 Michael Myers give him a haircut because it's just what is going on with that but the thing is and I agree the scream stuff bugs me to no end even to the score the score I like actually it's done by John Ottman who's awesome but it says by John Otman
Starting point is 00:31:57 and then like I read the Weinstein brothers didn't like his score so they inserted the scream score into the score So there's points in the movie, like, when there's scare moments, it goes, br-dr-dr-dr-dr-dr-d at it in nowhere, and it doesn't fit in with anything. It totally sucks. I think the treatment of this movie was also written by, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Kevin Williamson. He didn't do the script. It's directed by Steve Miner, who did a bunch of Friday the 13 sequels, though, which is why it's like, I feel it's a more competent horror movie than some of the sequels. It looks good. It moves along at a good pace. I think she's good in this movie. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I agree. She's like, hey, Josh Hartnick. Could you give me one day a year? Hey, can you do me a huge favor? Stop being like an asshole on the one day a year that is, like, traumatic to me. But it seems like she's been doing it before that for quite some time. Yeah, well, sure. But just give me one day a year, man.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Like, I'm going to take a bunch of pills. Mom's going to take a nap for a while. Oh, okay. You need you to be where I know where you are. The two Chardonnay day, that makes much. That's good. Is this the only one that's not in Illinois? It's in Northern California, right?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. Where's resurrection? No, no. Resurrection is back in Haddonfield. back in the Michael Myers' house. No, 3 is in California, but that kind of doesn't count. Oh, yeah, so that's kind of a spiritual route. Because that's sort of North Cal too, I mentioned.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But of the, you know, Michael Myers' storyline, it's the only one that's not in Hatton Field. I do like that she cuts his fucking head off in this movie. Because you watch all these movies, especially when you're doing like the whole watch. End strong, huh? Yeah, it does end strong. You're like, why is it anyone cutting this dude's head off?
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah, totally. And run with it, put it in a box and put it at the bottom of the ocean. Oh, yeah. Send it to the Queen of England. Death also sent it to the Queen of England. Put the rest of that fucking body in a Heisenberg bath. Yeah. Just be done with it. Decimate this corpse.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah. You think she does? I mean, like, ignoring the next movie, which is, we'll talk about in a minute. Like, if you, she's going to do time at the end of this movie, right? Because, like, Michael Myers dies. She kills him, like, she stabs. He falls over. L.L. Cool J's like, hey, man, it's over. Which is like, what the fuck? But she
Starting point is 00:33:59 then steals an ambulance and then cuts his head off. Like, you've got to do time for that, right? Oh, yeah. Probably. I don't know. Well, maybe, maybe. you know, by reason of insanity. Sure, yeah. Some temporary insanity claims. Or are you justifiable homicide?
Starting point is 00:34:12 I don't know. I think you're definitely being put away somewhere. You got to pay for that van at least. That is well. An ambulance probably costs a lot. A couple of like parking tickets. Lord, I mean, you know how much they charge you to have ride in the back of one? I couldn't imagine if you wanted to buy the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And you see, and like, and the fact that it turns out to be the EMT's head in the next one. Which is so annoying. They just undo the ending. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't count towards this movie, though. No, you got to leave this in a bottle. I was offering a bridge to the next. Oh, I see. The one last... He's a professional. And he's trying to do a
Starting point is 00:34:51 segue. You know what? You know what? You know what? It was damn good. Thank you. The last thing though I did want to say about it is what I also find appealing in H2O is that it's a very small movie, not a lot of kills. not a lot of like, you know, super deaths or anything. I don't like that a lot of the deaths are off screen, especially with a little man Tate.
Starting point is 00:35:10 God damn Jumanji kid. You put a little man Tate in a movie where he gets murdered. I got to see it happen. Or else it doesn't count. I want that throat getting cut. You're totally right. All right. Yeah, so Halloween resurrection.
Starting point is 00:35:21 This is the eighth movie in the franchise. I got this fucker at seven. Number 10. Welcome to the basement, ladies and gentlemen. Number eight. Number nine. Oh, wow. Ooh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 So this is the one where we're back in Haddonfield. It's 2002 and everybody's caring about internet web video broadcasting. Yeah, when the technology wasn't quite there yet. I mean, it was, but it was just always garbage. It was garbage, man. And, you know, I made the joke somewhere else, but like, where's the real player buffering? Like, the connection that these kids have watching this shit. Yeah, when they got T1 line?
Starting point is 00:35:59 I just don't care. Like, I... Well, no. Nobody cares. Yeah, I mean, like, this whole fucking second, like, to show us how it works and, like, oh, my God, is that a real killer or not a real killer? I don't. Who cares? It's such fucking bullshit and nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It's the kid from L.I.E. And some Dunderhead fucking looking at a screen. Yeah, I don't like the little web chat. This movie aged. It's funny because, like, you know, obviously a lot of these movies are of their time. This ages is the poorest, right? It's bad because, like, we don't care. this this kind of
Starting point is 00:36:33 use of the internet didn't go the way this movie thought it was going to go. You know, like, yes, we stream stuff online, but like, not like this. We're not, it's not like event broadcasting in this way. Not like this. Not like this. Yeah. You got Buster Rhymes. First
Starting point is 00:36:51 build, by the way. Yeah. Well, who else is it going to be? He's the main, like, you think you're going in this movie. You know, there'll be a little Buster Rimes. That's okay. Whoa, this much. it's a ton dude that's a big scare i need him as a pinch finding forester perfect
Starting point is 00:37:08 absolutely perfect dark perfect this is this movie is busting at the seams i rated this movie higher than you guys and i think the reason for that
Starting point is 00:37:18 for me is while as bad as it is i could see rewatching it and laughing at it because it's just bottom it's like the troll two of these movies it's too boring for me Like, going back to it even, like, I watched this thing fucking twice because it took me that long to get through it.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Wait, how does that work? I think that you had a file that was two movies together or something? You watched it and you stopped and then you started it over and it completed. I'm sorry. You started over from the start then? Yes, I went twice just because I was like, I want to see it all as a full thing. So then I finally got through it the second time. Well, it's also the horseshit thing where like Buster Rhymes for like,
Starting point is 00:38:01 ratings for this internet broadcast is like so it's like this reality TV idea spend a night in the Myers house search around like it's kind of like a very flimsy premise for a TV show because it's supposed to be a real right it's supposed to be to get him the the real show no he's got this thing's called like Danger Tainment him and him and Tyra Banks have a whole company I thought that was the name of the company I thought this was like the network like you're on dangertainment I don't know. I'm unclear on that. I'm not going to comment.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I think that that goes to what's problematic in the movie. Maybe it's not too clear. You don't know how they're making their money off of this stuff. No, I have no really. You want to look at the books. Why anyone would do this? Chris Cabin's audit of danger detainment. I watched that.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Kind of based on MTV's fear a bit, right? Like you stay inside of a house and you're doing stuff. That's exactly what it is. And that's what Buster Rimes does too. is like he puts shit in the house to scare them uh you know that's like not like there's like a gross looking like baby like high chair
Starting point is 00:39:07 that with chains on it and they're like oh they fucking strap him into this is this what made him evil? Yeah and I'm like that's stupid there's a lot of TV stars to be in this oh Katie Stackoff Katie Stackoff that was nice to see it was she's playing an obnoxious character
Starting point is 00:39:24 this character is not screaming the whole time she does not have a hold on like she just doesn't play a like that's what she's supposed to do and like every character she's ever been successful at is not a dits yeah it's not she's overplaying it's not good yeah we're speaking of stupid though I mean we're not talking about the stupidest thing in this movie
Starting point is 00:39:41 which is the fucking prologue well yeah oh yeah holy god which we kind of talked about which is that yes oops what what actually Michael Myers does at the end of H2O is break the larynx of a fat a fat he's a fat guy this guy looks like the dude uh the twins from
Starting point is 00:39:57 uh gremlins to and the guy from... Oh, I thought you're talking about T2. Yes, it was the same twist. Oh, yeah, yes. I thought you were talking about those two heavy guys on the motorbikes. That famous picture. Very similar. But it looks like that guy. So he breaks his larynx and he puts him in the...
Starting point is 00:40:13 In the mask. He puts him the mask. He puts in the van and then, like, Jamie Lee Curtis cuts his head off and what you don't see at the end of H2O she opens the mask and wouldn't you know it? It's some fat guy. Who also... Ken Bone. Who looks like... Damn it. I've been trying to fucking say it.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Oh, no. He looks like... He looks like... He looks like internet never was Ken Bowen. Well, then we should be applauding her because she just vanquished another monster. It wasn't Michael Myers, but it was a monster with horrific beliefs. Oh, yeah, Ken Bone, man. Who is actually at the Doctor Strange premiere.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Did you hear about this? Yes, I saw it. And he was wearing his Ken Bone outfit? Well, of course he was. You're not getting through the fucking front door if you're not wearing the Ken Bone outfit. Knowing Marvel, and these are opportunist people, I think Ken Bone is going to be in the next
Starting point is 00:40:58 Avengers. Oh, okay. Yeah, I could do that. I think his powers of indecision. I do. I think one of his busted pairs of khakis is a fucking infinity stone. Right, yeah. It's the infinity stone of saying that Trayvon Martin deserved it. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's, uh, that's Ken Bone for you, everyone. This is the person you made into a meme. You're fucking human kitten. You, you fucking monsters. So also, Jamie Lee Curtis is like in this insane asylum now. Faking being comatose. Yeah, okay. You can just do that like you're acting.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Somebody's checking the doll. I'm sorry, this place is a professional, like, stop it. Someone's checking blood levels for the medication. Like, come on with this shit. They're like pick, they're, they're, they're at least putting a needle to your toe. Yeah. And that's, you're not going to be. What are you, a Navy seal you would stand that? What do you treat Williams? I don't think so. Just start the movie. I know the movie's already under 90 minutes, but still. And also, in keeping with bad Halloween sequel tradition, Jamie Lee Curtis has a fucking terrible wig on.
Starting point is 00:42:06 My God. She's hardly in this movie, and she's killed off. She's killed off. She's like in the first five minutes. She's about to kill Michael. She's got him like on, which also, this isn't going to kill Michael. She's the top of a building. How many buildings is this guy fucking falling off of at this point? She's like, I got you now, Michael. And it's a
Starting point is 00:42:23 stupid Looney Tunes trap. No. Just cut the head off a again. It weren't it. Exactly. Get chopping. Start stabbing them in the face. You already done it once.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And it's so stupid because she thinks back, she's like, okay, contestants, you've got a jar of peanut butter, scorpion chills, and Michael Myers' head. Enjoy. This is chopped. Yes, Ted Allen's my Ted Allen impression. Sorry, everybody. I should have announced it.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I just don't know chopped. I was going to, I was like, where are you going with this? Just Michael. of a peanut allergy? He should. Well, no, just like your match game joke from a while back, I was like, it's another game show he watches that I don't know anything
Starting point is 00:43:06 about. Watching a bunch of game shows. Just let him talk. He'll shut up eventually. He'll say something. But she does this stupid thing of like, oh man, I totally regret killing Ken Bone. Better make sure it's not another person.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And she's like, she has the line like, I have to see. And she She goes to pull the mask off and it's like, oh, whoops, murdered. Yeah, great. She gets stabbed and thrown off the building. And she wanted to do that to, like, secure that, like, her character could never come back
Starting point is 00:43:37 and she could be fucking done with it, you know. That'd be nice. Which is, you know, she did it, and that's fine. Buster Rhymes beats Michael Myers with karate in this movie. Yeah, that's fine. He's loving, he's watching all these kung fu flicks. Uh-huh. That's not a really high point for the series.
Starting point is 00:43:52 No, that's not. It's a low point. So, speaking of low points, So this is the end of like the original incarnation of Halloween. We're going to the zombie verse now. Rob Zombie's Halloween. I got this first one at number eight. Number eight.
Starting point is 00:44:11 What? What was that? The gag from The Simpsons where he's like, I'm taking barbershop in a whole new direction. He plays the tape and it's just the girl going number eight and he's burping. I have it as a number eight as well. There you go. I got it as 10.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Last five. Five. Five. All right. Explain, explain yourself. I think it's much better than a lot of the sequels. I think it looks better. I think it's more interesting as a movie. I don't think it is. I think it's not a Halloween movie. That's the problem with it. Right. It's the premier problem. Because it's another fucking hellbilly horror movie it is. And I can't take that. But that stuff didn't, like that to me, it didn't, that stuff didn't stick with me as much as it does you. Like that stuff. It's right in my craw. I'm like, fine. I don't like it. And like I said, five is not exactly. That's midway. So I think this is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. I think that I agree with Andrew. I don't like the hellbilly stuff. I'm not a big, I do like that there's like competent actors throughout. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's a who's who you got William Forsyth who's terrible in this movie, but it's cool to look at William Forsyth.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. Presence. They have presents. You got Brad Duriff who I would watch. I would watch Brad Durr if he'd fucking McDonald's. You give me 90 minutes of Brad Doriff, Adam McDonald's. That's a movie I'd watch. That would be a better movie than anything Rob Zombie's directed.
Starting point is 00:45:30 This Whopper's pretty cold. Wait, did he go to Burger King by mistake? Twist. That's the problem. What's this? One, two. Three pickles for a whole wopper. Really?
Starting point is 00:45:46 But I have this at the bottom, not only because of the hillbilly stuff, but, well, okay, mainly because of that. But it's also, you're just dealing with this kid for like 90 goddamn minutes, and I just couldn't give a shit. Little Mike or Miles you're talking about. Yes, exactly. What was scary to me about the first movie also is like it's just this middle class regular kid that suddenly for no unknown reason snapped and killed someone. Yeah. And that is more, it's scary or not knowing the fact that it's just like I got to see a little kid torture squirrels for fucking 90 minutes and this is what you turn in as a movie. Turn in.
Starting point is 00:46:21 You can an F in my class. Mr. Zombie. it's paid by number of serial killer stuff like yeah the the hurting animals is a big abusive stepfather like yeah to your point but also like what bugs me is like all the psychology is not great because even uh what lumis is doing like a book tour i think this loomis is terrible i thought malcolm macdonald shit the bed in both these book tours in the second one isn't it no in the first there's two books oh he does he writes another book and in this one this got some guys like excuse me uh mr lumis is it uh do you think it was nature or nurture
Starting point is 00:46:55 that turned out. I'm like, you know what, dude, I'm fucking putting my hat on. You're fucking crackerjack horse shit. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I think Malcolm McDowell is fine. I'm, I'm, I think. Yeah. I'm fine with it. I think like, and I mean, yes, of course, all this, like, psychiatry stuff
Starting point is 00:47:11 is nonsense. Um, total nonsense. But it's just, it's, it's like, let's just talk about Jeffrey Dahmer for 90 minutes and then slap Halloween at the end. But even that to me, like, I guess I just got more tired of, the formula of the
Starting point is 00:47:26 slasher stuff. Sure. In this particular iteration. And that's why this is a little higher than like five. It is an interesting looking movie. It does look cool, I think. Can we talk about how he decided to cast the mountain from Game of Thrones? Oh, and that's the next thing I was going to point out.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's like eight feet tall and like... The dude who played Wolverine in the first X-Men movies. Sabretooth. Or Sabretooth, sorry. Do you have been Hugh Jackman is Michael Myers. I'd watch that movie. You know what? I would tune right in. tune right in. Yeah, sorry. The fact that he's, like, lifting weights or something, like, what is Loomis doing with this kid? No, yeah, well, exactly. You can't get that body. Like, you could be tall, but you're probably
Starting point is 00:48:05 going to be a fat guy if you're in a mental institution. They don't give you weights in a mental institution. He's got to be, like, they're injecting in them with steroids. All right, crazy person, time for your afternoon session in the yard. And one of the things, my hallmark, and I do like some Rob Zombie movies, which we'll get to, actually. And I really love Lords of Salem. but the thing that's on display here at least in the first one and a little bit in the second one is that it takes fucking 40 minutes for someone to die because they've got to cry they've got to look at a picture of their son and be like i'll never be able to go like it's too dramatic and emotional and it just seems overly cruel in my in my personal opinion and i don't want to know my horror movies I don't think it's quite I mean I have a really
Starting point is 00:48:50 I do get when movies get cruel I get very very I'm like I'm very quick to judge sure I try to get better at that one day at a time yeah thank you Eric thank you I'm touching Eric now just keep rewatching this
Starting point is 00:49:05 you'll eventually you'll sort your life out it didn't bother me that much here I didn't feel it that much but and like I said this is not a great movie under any circumstances. I would not sure I'd even call it a good one.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Sure. But to me, it's much more interesting than the like stuff in five or four really. All right. All right. So that brings us to the final film, which is Rob Zombie's Halloween Duh. I got this fucker at
Starting point is 00:49:37 six. I have it at number four. Jesus. Chris, what is number one? Number two. Number two. Wow. Oh, my goodness gracious. Number nine, second of last.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Wow. Okay. So this will be interesting. We are literally at the polar. This would be interesting to unpack. Now, the problem I have with this movie is Rob Zombie made his Jeffrey Dahmer movie, the last one. Now he doesn't know what to do. Oh, I'm just going to make him Jason Voorhees and do the mom ghost and make it.
Starting point is 00:50:07 It's like the same fucking thing now. It's similar. I'll give you that. And I see where you're going. and I mean I think it's not really it isn't a Halloween movie I will say that like Oh big time
Starting point is 00:50:19 I mean that movie Hands way up It's not a Halloween movie I think it's kind of a cool movie I think it's a really cool movie I think I do like the ghost stuff I like what they do with the Lori Strode character and I think
Starting point is 00:50:30 The girl scout Taylor Chatt Compton Scout Taylor Compton I think she's good in both these movies I think she's excellent in the second one I think she's really good I think it's and like she does a good job
Starting point is 00:50:43 of like it's the most out of all these horror sequels, including all of them, it explores what your life might look like if you lived through a horror movie. Right, yeah, the like legit after effects. Yeah, like she's fucking ruined. Unlike the original Halloween 2, this takes place a year later.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yes. But I actually think my least favorite part of this movie is the first part where we're pretending that it's Halloween 2 in the hospital. The fake out really bugs me because it's a long movie. And both these movies are excessively long. I mean, that is, I think, the key problem. with them but I to me like
Starting point is 00:51:16 I only let the hospital thing go because it is if I was going to see that scene that's what I want that scene to look like okay um could I do without it of course yeah um to me this is like the most
Starting point is 00:51:30 inventive there's a lot of stuff going on here yeah a lot of action a lot of like and yeah they do there are parts of it where I feel it does drag a little bit with the backstory and all that nonsense he fucking flips a car with his bare hands, man. That is really stupid. But with
Starting point is 00:51:48 Aaron Burr inside of it. But again, to me, this is not like, this is not out of the realm of possibility for a fucking Michael Myers. Yeah. Well, especially this Michael Myers. For a mysterious what is this, what is this the shape? I'll give you that. But the fact that I had to watch him potty train for 90 minutes. I don't know. It doesn't do it for me. I, I dig. I really I think that there is like
Starting point is 00:52:16 it looks the best. There's a lot of good Brad Durf in this as well. There's more Brad Durf. He kind of turns into the Loomis in this movie. He does. I kind of like. Yeah. Oh, the thing that we haven't mentioned about either of these is that playing Annie Brackett is Daniel Harris. Yes. Yes. Jamie
Starting point is 00:52:32 in four and five. And she's good in this. She is good. Yeah. She does have her own like, oh my God, I'm getting killed. Oh, my God. I'll never have a fucking family. Like, you got to go to the whole fucking day. Yeah. And I know it's one of the reasons why people find this one interesting is the visuals of the dream sequences
Starting point is 00:52:48 but it was just like I'm watching fucking Dragulo the music video now I'd rather watch the stuff with the horse than with fucking sherry moon zombie man like I get it dude you love putting your wife in your movies but Jesus Lord she's not great
Starting point is 00:53:04 God bless her she's not great nobody else is going to put her in anything no I know I know I know speaking of the horse we all don't have to be in movies sorry what's speaking to the horse it should have been babe the blue ox with how fucking big
Starting point is 00:53:20 Michael Myers is in this incarnation he's just Paul Bunyan but I gave the blue ox there I love the mind he is Paul Bunyan man American folklore he's a humongous indestructible fucking force of nature the guy can do whatever
Starting point is 00:53:37 but it's cooler when the like the indestructible force of nature in the first one is just like some fucking dude like when he jumps on the car at the beginning of that movie you can see his fucking like thin hair he looks like captain lou albano less is more mustacheless less is more of course but like of course if i'm ever going to rewatch a Halloween movie you're rewatching the first one oh sure yeah of course that but then like the second one and i don't necessarily have to think of the first one every time i think of zombie's second one so on its own i think it works
Starting point is 00:54:07 completely oh yeah i think it's better than than zombies first one yeah and i also think you get 10 points for putting Margo Kidder in a movie after 9-11. She's less photographed at Zasquatch these days, man. Did she have something to do with it? No, but I haven't seen her in a very long time. She bought the tickets for those guys. Oh, you know, I heard something about that. She actually did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Dude, we got the documents. Margotter.com. Infowars.com. Well, no, because InfoWars is Alex. Alex Jones. So, uh, info battles. Ah, yeah. So, all right. So let's, let's go back through. I'll start off. Uh, my order is, um, one three, original two, four H2O, zombie two, Resurrection, Zombie 1, Halloween Curse of Michael Myers, Halloween 5, Revenge of Michael Myers. Uh, um, I go Halloween, Halloween, Carpenter Halloween, Halloween original, uh, Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, uh, Halloween, Halloween, Halloween,
Starting point is 00:55:11 Two, zombie, Halloween 3, Season of the Witch, Halloween 2, Halloween 1, zombie, Halloween 4, Halloween H2O, Halloween 5, Halloween Resurrection. And as my note puts it, Halloween fart, Paul Rudd. I think that was the working title, actually. That's the name of the producers, Scott. The curse of Michael. Of Michael. Eric Siska. Yeah, well, number one is Halloween.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Sure. out. Okay, number two is Halloween three, season of the witch. Number three, Halloween two, then I go Halloween four, Halloween H20, Halloween 5, Halloween 6, Halloween resurrection. God help us. And then the drags, Halloween 2, 2009, Halloween 2007. Yeah, so one is Uncle Eddie's Vegas vacation. No. No, it's a fucking island Christmas vacation, I'm pretty sure. Rob Zomby director? He was using a gnome to film, though. He's producing. Honestly, Randy Quaid would be a perfect hellbilly. He would, yeah. Get him in your fucking
Starting point is 00:56:23 get him in 31-2. 32. Let's just forget that was ever man. I just feel like he's I can. It's terrible. He's got a standing invitation. Like, hey, Randy, when you come out of the madness, you can come be in one of my movies. Well, I'd love to do that, Rob, but I can't be certain
Starting point is 00:56:39 you're not one of those Hollywood Weird assassins. I owe several agencies. Millions of dollars each. If you want to come to Thailand and make a movie, Rob, I'll do it. Okay. It's spooky here. Most recent movie he made was his fucking sex tape.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I didn't know how to it yet. We didn't get to it yet. We should do sex tape for Valentine's Day. We'll go through all the sex tapes. All right. Really quick. Halloween one, season of the witch is next. Then it is number four.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Return of Michael Mine. Uh, number four is Rob Zombie 2. Um, number five is Halloween 7, which is the H2O, H2O, thank you. I just did this a number, sorry. Uh, a number, at number six, it is the original Halloween 2 at number seven. It is number five, uh, whatever, revenge of Michael, Revenge of Michael Myers. Revenge of Michael Myers. Uh, at number eight, it is, uh, the first zombie movie at number nine. It is Halloween 6, Paul Rudd Farts a bunch, and lastly, it is Halloween, let's kick some Michael
Starting point is 00:57:45 Myers' ass with Buster Rines. Happy Halloween, motherfucker! Yeah, that's my favorite line. So that is our ranking of the Halloween franchise. Stay tuned for next year when we're doing Nightmare and Elm Street. It's got to be. It's got to happen. Well, I don't know. No promises. Those are some bad
Starting point is 00:58:03 sequels. Those are bad. Like, I think the only thing worse is Hellraiser. Oh, which we'll never do. I won't appear on a Hellraiser countdown. But actually, we can do this really quickly. You've got a day where you have to watch four or five movies of a particular one of the one of these horror franchises. And the only ones we can compare is Friday versus Halloween. How are you spending that day?
Starting point is 00:58:30 Friday, any day. Friday. Friday. Friday. Friday. Yeah. Oh, they're just, I mean, like, I think Halloween, number one, beats all of those movies with a fucking stick. But there's just much more enjoyable sequels.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Well, also, you're getting a whole day out of Friday the 13. It's simple and they stick to a formula. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's something about the repetition that I find appealing, honestly. Yeah, yeah. I know what I'm getting. You know what?
Starting point is 00:58:53 You're not trying to impress me Halloween or Friday the 13th. You're just trying to entertain me. It does get stupid and they get into the supernatural bit too much. Sure. So it's not without its faults. Yes, exactly. Got plenty of problems. Well, that's WHM on screen.
Starting point is 00:59:08 everybody, have a happy and safe Halloween. Until next time, I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. It looks scary. Chris Cript. Chris Cript. You suck. No, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:59:26 What would I be Andrew Jumpscare? Yeah. Oh, I like that. Oh, Andrew Slayback. I'd be Stephen Slayback. Oh, Slayback. Wasn't that a movie with Danny Glover? Oh, it's Switchback. Switchback.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Switchback. You'd switch back than that would be. Take it easy. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a title of one good scare. Sometimes that is better. Zombies have entered the building.
Starting point is 01:00:02 They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment. They're coming to get you, Barbara. They're sick for fucks. He's seen one too many. Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies. Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos.
Starting point is 01:00:23 More creative. Put the fucking lotion in the back. It was an excellent day for an exited.

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