We Hate Movies - S7: WHM On-Screen: Spider-Man: Homecoming

Episode Date: August 4, 2017

On this WHM On-Screen, the gang chats about the audience favorite, Spider-Man: Homecoming! An above average entry in the MCU, the film has everything: low stakes, working class criminals; a worthwhile, entertaining supporting buddy for Peter Parker; just the right amount of RDJ presence; and not a single mention of Uncle Ben! PLUS: No gross web orifices!  Spider-Man: Homecoming stars Tom Holland, Michael Keaton, Robert Downey Jr., Marisa Tomei, Jon Favreau, Jacob Batalon, Zendaya, Donald Glover, and Gwyneth Paltrow; directed by Jon Watts. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a headgum podcast. Hello everyone. Welcome to W.H.M. on screen. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside Christopher Cabin, Eric Siska, and Stephen Sadek. We are talking, of course, about the much, the highly praised, I would say, Spider-Man Homecoming from this year of Our Lord 2017, directed by a fellow named John Watts. Now I got the Tribune open here, and I'm like, who the hell is this? guy? Oh, he directed fucking cop car with Kevin Bacon and that movie's awesome. It's pretty good. Wait, is that is that in the MCU? I think it is. It might be. I think Kevin Bacon turns into

shocker of some dark. He's the arresting officer when they get Galactus, right? Yes, I think he finally slaps the cuffs on Galactus. He gets turned into water jelly. I didn't trust it because his name is Watts and it doesn't have anything to do with spiders like Mark

Webb. Oh, boy, that was a fucking mistake, wasn't it? It was. Those were the worst ones, I think. The Amazing Spider-Man? Yeah, I got to re-watch that first one. I think, because I remember liking it. The second one's in a train rack, but the first one I remember liking. I think they're the worst movies, but I actually think Andrew Garfield's a better Spider-Man than Toby McGuire. Well, I'm a better Spider-Man than Toby. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I might be. the Toby head here. I like Toby. I'm a Toby fan. He was all right. I know. No, no, no. So this is,

what's this? Tom Holland, huh? A little Billy Elliott. Tom Holland is the best spider. I got to give him some more time. I liked him a lot. Some more time to what? No, no. I just feel like, I all feel like it's all so new and I hate being the guy that gets sucked up in it. And I just rewatch this to you, uh, McGuire movies and I liked them. So I feel like, let's see what happens a 10 years kind of a thing before I start giving crown time. I'm agreeing with Chris on this. I think I like the energy that this youthful Tom Holland. Yeah, young. Yeah. Young is a big thing. That's true. Well, because he's supposed to be a baby. He's kind of a baby. And this

yes. And this guy, you know, he's older than that, but like he looks much more youthful than the other two. It just plays. Yeah, he does a good job. And I mean, I think that I, you know, getting this out of the way, I really, really. love the movie. I think it's probably the best or the second best Spider-Man movie depending on the way you're looking at it. I'm in the camp of

this is the best Spider-Man movie to date. I am also in my game. Oh, I'm in that camp too, guys. Let's have a pillow fight. Oh, man. You're going to have to go to my camp, which is across the lake. And I guess we have less money. We're the poor kid camp. But that's where we get our action at.

Oh, yeah, man. I take pictures of Steve in the shower So yeah Holland we all agree on Here was a thing that Steve and I were worried about And I didn't think it overdid itself But how's everybody feeling About the levels of RDJ in this movie I'm good with it

I think it adds a nice angle to it And like it is much better than having any flashback Of Uncle Ben or whatever the fuck You better believe it So if you needed that male adult influence there in some form What if it was Uncle Ben

but it was Nick Nolte Well I mean With great power I'm great responsibility Nick Nulte and Marissa Tomey's wedding photos Can I get in this? He would definitely be in Vegas

I look great that day Oh yeah It's at the Chapel of Love I'm gonna get fucking married All the first of us have hair down our back. Oh, man. They could cut to him

like romancing Marissa Tomey. Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, their first date to get a whole man, I have this dance.

Getting shot in the car. Can I mean, stop that guy in the wrestling ring, you son of a bitch. That's what should have a dude. Uncle Ben should have gone out cursing Peter Parker until his last breath.

You little fucking blot! are you keeping all the spider powers for yourself Can't do anything That's They do They do like slightly reference Like him dying But they don't say Ben

And it's so blinking you miss it No and they don't say Ben Thank God Yeah But he's just he's talking to his friend there And he's like Oh I gotta ease up on Aunt May Because of you know

What with everything that's transpired His buddy Ned Played by this guy Jacob Battalon who fucking steals this movie. Take that spider man. That kid's great. That kid is like flat out hilarious and they have a lot of great gags of them which I also appreciate none of them are overweight gags like it's not like jokes about him being big like he's just a big comedian kid you know what I mean like yeah and that's an easy

big comedian kid yes I mean that with all this is a combo that should for Marvel and them and the kid because they're not like those I just think you you wrote my new Twitter bio Oh, good. No, but yeah, there's no, like, you know, him squeezing into Spider-Man's suit and, like, some joke about that or whatever. There's a quick one of him in the mask. He's wearing the mask, yeah, but it's not like, oh, geez, I can't fit your suit or Peter. Or like, when are we going to go get pizza or some, you know, you could see how that could go. Right.

He'd be crying about food the whole time. Which was, well, that was being high school, by the way. I've said, when are we going to get pizza a lot? He definitely has the line of the movie when the teacher walks in on him and she's like, what are you doing in here? The dance is going on. And he's like looking at porn. I think to your point about R.D.J.

I think that sort of speaks to what the whole movie is like, this is a very specific, different version of Spider-Man that fits well in this MCU as it's currently constituted. i think holland and this approach could also work without all that stuff but you know what i mean like the technology stuff it fits him you know what i mean they do a pretty seamless job of getting him in there and it feels good right and i think like because the avengers that whole world because of our dj specifically well because of tony stark or whatever is so tech forward that if you just had regular schmegular Peter Parker and you know like the McGuire version without all this high tech stuff it wouldn't I don't think it would it would fit as well can I correct you just say regular degular because that's my new catchphrase oh right oh I forgot you're getting that tattoo

we got to get t-shirts you know while we're talking about tech can we mention that this one actually has the the webs as like a fluid that shoots out of an apparatus oh you mean and not a couple of added orifices. Yeah. Oh, my fucking armholes. That was a good decision, I thought. Yeah, no Cronenberg Gapes. No, yeah.

No, I do like that. And also, like, they were able to work it into, like, the movie. Yeah. You know, like, it played well. It's something to return to him picking up the lockers and with his stash of extra weapon. Yeah, I like this little, like, Batman, like, hidden cove in the school. I was kind of I'm kind of

I was okay with Jennifer Connolly because they do a good Marvel knows how to write a good talking suit joke and they have a ton of those in this movie but I don't think it fits and it makes it feel less spider

that's where I put up my nerd card and I give it like kind of a yellow instead of a green I'm like nah it's just not Spider-Man to me slow you're all he's just baby Ironman at that point which is I'm not super crazy about

but again they do it it's well executed and it's funny and it fits the movie. I wasn't rolling my eyes with it, which is what I thought would be happening. So I was like kind of surprised that I was fine with it. I don't know. It had me laughing. Well, that's, I think the best

thing about it is that it is clearly a comedy and I think that it has that over all the other ones. Yes. Yeah. It's got a sense of humor. And it's consistent. That's what it returns to is its sense of humor rather than some big dramatic apparatus,

although the Michael Keaton storyline is fantastic. Yeah, we can get into Keaton. I like that they're addressing that, like, this city was destroyed. Yes. Yeah, yeah, I like that. And I like how, you know, you're sort of focusing on, like,

well, what would the industry around the cleanup effort be? Also, there is a lot of hubris taking a contract on, like, alien paraphernalia and not thinking the government's going to come eventually and be like hey that's our shit. His thing is I called dibs. He's like, no, dude, dibs on that alien. Yeah, no, in the world of alien

invasions, there are no dibs. It's the government or bust. And I do want to just throw up a spoiler alert at this point. You know, you should have known that we're going to get into it, but yeah, there's a spoiler coming. A couple of spoilers of the the whole film right yeah no we're gonna be talking about the movie not too much in depth but yeah sure they'll be spoilers we're 10 minutes into this well i like i like with keaton is i love the real the

reveal that he is uh the love interest it's been a couple weeks now a couple weeks now uh her dad and i think that's a great twist and it fits yeah yeah it does that i couldn't believe that i didn't see it coming did oh yeah i was i was floored by that uh is, is that character's name played by Laura Harry. Who's great. And she was, yeah, she was really great. But, yeah, it was a very, like, Buffy the Vampire Slayer-esque, kind of like, this is a regular high school situation, which is, oh, shit, I've got to see my dad, my girlfriend's dad, and that's awkward and tense.

And whoops, take it to 11 because he's actually the vulture. Exactly. It is definitely like that, that quintessential high school experience you had where you're fucking with an old man in town. like this guy who has a business you're trying to ruin. I don't know why. And then you find out, oh, wait, the lady I want to see is, or, you know, because it's a smaller town at the same time, even though it's the city in this. I want to know where they're driving way the hell out in, like, gorgeous queen suburbs for this house party.

I mean, it's got to be Long Island. Like, you're out on the island at this point. Or is it like out by Hollis where Trump is from? Possibly. I don't know. Long Island. I just, you know, maybe not. Didn't look like it smelled that bad.

No, everybody. Well, Liz's house kind of looked like a supervillain's lair, so I did like that little element of it. It's also a house where like a hip horror movie would take place. You know what I mean? Yeah, like an away scene in what's it, urban legends. But yeah, I think Keaton's great. I think that he's, like, he, he's, he's, he's got the gravitas. He's like, he's funny, but also, like, really kind of menacing and scary, but also, he does, like, you know, but he does, you know, but he's also likeable. And you know what I mean? At the end, you do feel a little bit something for him, but they don't lean too heavy into that. no not too heavy but it's there and also it's just we've complained about this on other superhero

conversations and steve you sort of hit hit the nail on the head whenever it was we were talking about this but like this the plot of this movie or like the stakes of this are so low i mean he's just he's he's robbing the shit like he's just a robber you know and he's just trying to make money he's not trying to end the world he's not trying to rule a country or whatever so like the fact that it was grounded is the wrong word, but closer to Earth than other superhero tales. State of the art

labor equipment. Like state of the art. I thought it was great that they scaled it back like that, especially for Spider-Man. It was perfect. With the using the Tinkerer, that way I thought was really smart. And having Electro, or

is it Shocker? Shocker. Now Tinkerer is a character from the comic books? Yeah, he's a child molester. No, no, it's not. Whoa. You could have just let that child molester thing go, Steve, and I would have just completely bought it. Oh, I should have let you. You went into work the next day.

Oh, you know, like, I was a child molester. I'm like, what? They cut it out of the movie. The guy in Spider-Man's a child molester. Oh, should have been directed by Todd Solid. Todd Solid, Spider-Man. You want to talk about slinging webs. That might be perfect.

That might be perfect. That's like your gritty. reboot the real world that'd be great if Salon's director dude you get like Jane Adams could play anime oh no they have to have old people sex like it's her and Uncle Ben before they're like having

like really sensual old people sex oh god damn it oh god damn it I'm getting it wet Pete you see my Cialis pills Pete yeah get over here man just get right over

Oh, good God. I could almost hear the blankets ruffling. Yeah. Speaking of Aunt May, though, Marissa Tomey is pretty fantastic in this movie. A little underutilized, but I like her. And again,

I do. That's the way Aunt May needs to be. That's a good point. I mean, yeah, like I didn't want her like dating Michael Keaton or something like that. Or going out on a date with Tony Stark.

In those Toby McGuire movies, her whole purpose was just, like I remember Uncle Ben. Yeah, exactly. She won't shut up about him. Get your shit together, Peter. It's been a while since someone said Uncle Ben. Just wondering.

I'm mentioning it now because I'm cooking rice and thinking of my dead husband. Speaking of funny lines, my favorite in this movie was Hannibal Burress is talking about, he's playing the gym coach and he's shown footage of Captain America, doing like the health lessons. Oh, yeah. He mentions, oh, this guy's probably a war criminal now, but the state makes me play this.

And Martin Starr is a teacher, too. I thought it was a great supporting cast. That joke, you can kind of see it coming a mile away, but when he's talking about, you know, the field trip and thank God we didn't lose any kids, and it takes that beat, and it's just like this time, that had me go. And that's a joke that I'm going to laugh at every time.

Where was Spider-Man for that field trip? I'm so used to Martin Starr's, like, persona that he's adopted for Silicon Valley, that to see him not doing that was, like, really unsettling. It was kind of refreshing. I kind of liked it. Yeah, unsettling in a good way, I guess. Like, this was more of his, like, upbeat stuff from freaks and geeks, even though, I mean, he was occasionally pretty sarcastic. Well, he was, he was one of the, one of the geeks on that. He wasn't a freak. He wasn't a freak. was a geek. Yes. I believe he was a

yes. Okay. All right. Now James Franco from Spider-Man the original trilogy was a freak. And the guest. Yes. Okay. And the geek wrote the movie actually. That's right. John Francis Daly was one of the screenplay. One out of 50

screenwriters. Yeah. That was something. That's actually, it's kind of surprising because normally when you see a list of screenwriters this long, you're in for trouble. Well, yeah. And It does hold itself together pretty well. And, like, I love the fact that, like, Keaton is just very simply, like, I will kill you.

And then he fucking drops a building on him. Yeah, that's not half. I also love killing that other shocker guy. That's a good gag, a good murder. Oh, that guy gets incinerated. Oh, the guy from the invitation. Yeah. Yeah, Logan Marshall Green.

It's a good fake out, too, because you're like, oh, this guy's up to something. Oh, no, he's dead. Okay. yeah which paves the way for the great bokeem woodbine to be in this movie kind of but not enough but that's seen with the buses he's coming back though i guess i because they're they're setting up the scorpion and he's a i think they're kind of trying to do like a lower tier like every maybe a sinister six kind of team up thing because you got the vulture there you've already got scorpion coming out and you know i think okay steve every few years i need to be re-explained what the sinister

six. I mean, it's just pick six villains and they come together and like, let's all get Spider-Man together. You know, that's it. Usually the rhinos farting around in that. Mysterio, I think, is pretty usually. You know, last night I was out to dinner and I had

I had one too many those rice balls, the one of the spicy ones. It was like a sinister six. I was up to a sinister six in the morning, shit in my pants. You're a sinister shit. Good thing I have a golden toilet shape like Steve Dicko's mouth. Speaking of Stan the Man, what do you think of his cameo in this is the huge...

It is the best of all the stand-the-man cameos. You think so? Yeah, for me. It's so old... Me too. It's an old... It's a worn gag. You know, everyone's calling out the windows.

But I do love the line, how's your mother? It's a very outer burrow expression. And it's... I liked it. Yeah, I think... thought it was a little too front and center for my taste. You know, he's you know, we've been

watching all these fucking Spider-Man movies that I was totally mixing it up with one of the with the one from Spider-Man 3. Oh no, that's awful. That we were just making fun. You know, I guess one man. And I was like, Steve, what's the matter? One man can make a difference. Oh, yeah.

That's the worst. This one, it wasn't so bad. And yeah, just him like kind of trying to pick up chicks out the window. Kind of Old, old person things. That's what I want him doing. Strictly old person things. Well, that's all he does. It's an old man. Delivered the mail ain't an old person thing.

That's true. Yeah, he would have been forced into retirement. Not in Trump's America. Wasn't he like a security guard with the Hulk or something? Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, right. Well, that was in like, you know, 2000.

Get that guy behind a concession stand at a. Megaplex somewhere, please. Yeah, exactly right. Welcome to Walmart, Spider-Man. Can I help you? Let me greet you. Web cartridge replacements in Isle 17, Spider-Man. You know, I've noticed all the fresh and local produce you have here at Walmart now.

You've only just did a commercial. And thanks. I fucked Steve Dicko Bumper stickers, Isle 17. And thanks to Social Security being gutted by politicians, I'll die on my feet at Walmart. Well, not him. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no. You know who has too much screen time in this movie is one Sir John Favreau?

He's okay. You know, honestly, he's not bad. It's just there too much. I didn't mind it. I went through my life hating Happy Hogan until this movie. absolutely hate it you just have it you're at a sunset

with your wife you're having a glass of wine and she's like Eric what's wrong it's that fucking happy Hogan yes he's at it again he ruined

he ruined Iron Man too an otherwise perfect film you know what's kind of a slap in the face is Donald Glover being this movie as just some dude because it's like

that whole campaign of him trying to be Spider-Man And then it's like, well, we're just going to go with another tiny white guy, but you can be this like hoodlough in the middle of the movie. I was peeping around Wikipedia and maybe, yeah, Steve knows what I'm talking about. I looked at the apparently this guy becomes the prowler, which is somebody in the Spider-Man universe. Yeah, he's another like kind of low-level villain, which I think is probably what they might be setting up. Or maybe he'll just be like kind of a anti-hero kind of a dude. Okay. I mean, you know, prove me wrong.

movie universe, but on this day that we're recording this, July the 24th and 2017, I guarantee you'll never see that happen. Wow. That's a bold stance. Maybe he's the guy that takes out Thanos. Oh, yeah. Oh, he solves the whole thing.

The prowler does it, huh? Well, also, I just think, like, I don't know, he's a better, or more well-known actor, I should say, than like, whoever this dude is playing Scorpion. So, like, if that guy's Scorpion and Donald Glover

is this other guy? He's a Better Call Saul actor, I think. Yeah, Michael Mando I think his name is. Or something Manor. He's a better call Saul guy. He's good on Better Call Saul. But yeah, I mean, he's not great. And I mean, like, it lets you know, like, even though they're like, he's the Stinger scene that they're definitely

going to have other characters in this next movie because they're not hanging their hat on that dude. You know what I mean? Right. Well, also, it's weird because he got like Zero from Grand Budapest in this movie. Tony Reve Lory or whatever He's playing Flash Thompson

Oh yeah Yeah and he's good It's kind of an interesting Like they make him an intellectual rival Not like Not the same jock bully We've seen a thousand times You know what I mean

It's kind of a neat Well you know because they're dying out Because America's changing for the worst It's true No fucking Flash Thompson Does he play fucking football anymore It's just the Pushification of America

Since Puccage Since winded football become illegal in these United States? And Flash Thompson becomes who? Eventually Venom, but let's not even get into it. They're not going to I thought that was Edward. How would that work

with the Tom Hardy thing? Oh, is that still a thing? Tom Hardy's doing a Venom movie? Tom Hardy's Venom in a solo venom movie. Why do I want to watch a solo? Hey, great question. It's him it's him versus Carnage. People are going to go see it. Oh,

carnage is hanging out? Is the villain. yeah i still don't care well come on that's a fucking t-shirt come to life that's several t-shirts that's an army of t-shirts come to life they're finally adapting that t-shirt into a major motion picture you go to any water park that is clinging to someone's body for dear life oh yeah someone who's definitely not taking their t-shirt off of the water park that's a swimming shirt me yeah uh you know it's a hilarious cameo in this movie playing a random shield agent is Tyne Daily?

Oh yeah, that's a fun little Tony Award winner Tyne Daily as random shield agent. I'm sure she'll come back, you know what I mean? Like that's a that's a, it's a not that big of a check so you can be like, oh, we want to add some gravitas to the scene. Why don't you be in this new Wasp movie, you know?

Well, I mean, that's, they're like giving them each a shield agent because once Randall Park is going to be Ant Man and the Wasp, he's the shield agent for them. who's Randall Park again from fresh off the boat oh right right right right oh yeah

I like that dude actually he was just oh he's on Veepe yes he's good on Vee you know they should have named Tyne Daley's character Agent Lacey like Cagney and Lacey yeah yeah that's yeah thank you yeah there you go okay she was she was Lacey gotcha

okay wait the fuck up Chris I'm sorry I'm not a hundred and five years old I'm not going to sit around talking about Cagney and Lacey on the internet it's like having a fucking TJ Hooker podcast I mean Christ on the cross Holy shit

That would be pretty late Hey Eric when I come When am I coming back As soon as possible You can get to Get Sharon Glass in there too And then so you know I'll tell you

I what I didn't like In this movie She was Cagney What sorry Oh go ahead I'm going to try to talk Over your Cagney talk Fine

I'll start my own fucking podcast about dead TV shows no one cares about. Keep the Nick Reel with Cagney. Wait, wait, wait, wait. If you did a Cagney podcast, you would then just ignore all the Lacey scenes are down on. Yes. Yeah. That's what gives it its edge. Right. You only talk about what Cagney's doing. Okay. That's exactly right. Then you can keep it under 20 minutes. And so what are you saying, Cabin? I didn't. I, the one thing that I didn't like was the, uh, M. thing. Yeah. Just like randomly like

she's MJ. I'm like no, just don't bother. Why? Why bother? Chris, you're against like teasing future loves in these endings? Well, I just don't care. Like, and that you didn't go out of your way to make that connections like that before. The reveal was a bit like okay. Like either just do it or don't. Yeah. And I'm glad. I'm sure this girl could do. I think she was funny. She had a lot of good lines and like I think that, you know, growing her out will be great, but I just think that at the end, it was very much the end of Dark Night Rise is like, oh, it says your name is Robin on

this form. That's, yes. Yes, that's exactly the way I felt about it, too. She's a Disney property, Zendaya. Yeah, they got there was. Is that her full name? She's, Disney property. That's her full name. There was a guy at the regal that had to point out to his buddy, angrily, by the way, as the movie was letting out. And they changed MJ's race too. What? Yeah.

Where did you see this? No, this is it in Regal Theater? Yeah, well, it was in Regal Theater on 14th Street. Union Square, man. Wow. We're in the fucking middle of Manhattan. Well, downtown, but, you know, we're in the heart of New York City. Some fucking asshole whining about that.

It was outrageous. To this movie's credit, the diversity helps. The diversity, like, it feels fresh. It feels very New York. It feels real like this. Yeah, it feels like a fucking high school in New York City. Absolutely. And like, and what the things that.

they do to sort of make it like legit new york feeling even that what's funny is like those ramy movies a lot of it of that trilogy is actually in new york and most of this movie is not yet this movie feels way more legit new york than that it's like stanley 60s new york with with the ramey stuff and this is like real deal nowish new york well well in those in the first movies it's all his relationship with harry is like the center and his relationship with MJ. Right. Is it? This is a, this builds an actual community. Uh, and with a bunch of good actors. So it feels lively in each scene. It was that, the cast really, and I really like, you know, there's little high school moments when like, you know, and it does that like Spider-Man like, oh, can I just be a normal kid? Like,

when he wants to go, like, they invite him to that pool party. He's like, oh, shit, I might get a boner and push it on somebody or something. And he can't because he has to go be Spider-Man. You know what I mean? Like that, but it's not overwrought and it's not like so telegraphed, but it's there. You know what I mean? Like, and it's a nice little detail. I'm glad that they didn't like, like that happens and it's not him like pining for how he missed the party. Yes. You know, that he's, he understands that's, that's, I guess, you know, Bennett already died and told him the life lesson. So he understands and he separates his life pretty well. Peter, Pete, you're I'm going to wrap it up.

Just remember, always wrap it up. I double bagged. Wait a minute. You're telling me she's pregnant. My hair is a gentle dance. Ew. Oh, ew. Oh, ew.

But, yeah, I like the fact that he's not constantly, like, oh, woe is me. Like that sad sack of shit, Peter Parker. in those ramey movies, man. He's not, like, pathetic like that. He's got confidence. Like, that was what I hated about Toby McGuire. It's, like, he was so, like, mopey. But he's also not too arrogant of a, of a character like that.

And that's the Andrew Garfield goes too far in the other direction. And you just, you really hate that guy. Oh, I hate that guy. I hate him as Peter Parker, but then I hate, like, I just like you sit around. I hate that guy. Oh, dude, that's, what are you? think I do when you guys aren't here. I was fucking sit in the dark talking to myself

about people I hate. What? Fucking Eric Siska, thank God he's gone. Hate that guy. In a boiling hot bath. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You have to be completely nude. Sure. I don't even remember it as saying. I do like the fact

that he goes to a bodega. They use the word bodega and there was a goddamn bodega cat. Murph, the bodega cat, my favorite character, bar none of the do we know it's higher does he die tragically or does he survive? No no he's rescued

oh thank God yeah you see Spider-Man gives him the cat exactly in the version I saw oh wow I don't know if you saw like the editor's cut or something no none of those available thankfully but yeah

I really think this movie I think it's good I actually I think that the ending is kind of like it's Marvel's worst nightmare like oh my God what if somebody gets all of our IP? What if people start stealing from us? So it's like Spider-Man needs to say this. Or

or not even the IP. What if like a plane full of precious Marvel merchandise crashed on the beach? And people didn't pay us for some of these products. But I did like that whole thing. Here's a big thing

because so many of these movies you just have to execute these villains one after another. And my God, the vulture lives to see another day. And he does himself in. I loved that. I love that fact that he's so desperate for what he needs. Like

he's his own end and like Peter is kind of bested it. He's weak. He doesn't rat Peter out either when that guy comes up to him in prison. You know, he's like, he knows he's like a good kid anyway, I guess. Yeah, he learns. He grows a little bit, you know, and he did save

his life. So he's, you know, and I think that ratting him out is probably a thing that this guy's not going to do. No, because I mean, This guy's definitely had some dealings with the mafia. You know, he knows the score, this Adrian Tunes. I do. A weak part of this for me is the music. There's a lot of really obvious music cues that are just kind of like,

some of them are good. I think the spoon song is fun. That I like quite a bit. I don't like the Rolling Stones. Can you hear me knock? And it's like, dude, are we doing a parody of a Scorsese movie right now or what? I did not care for that. I do like the use of Ramones in this movie.

It adds to the New York City. And it's actually a, it's not just like, oh, they're a New York City band. They were a fucking Queens band. So, like, it heightens the whole New York Cityness of this movie way more for me. That Rolling Stone song, though, you can fucking forget it. You just can't do Rolling Stones in the Mafia. You just can't do it. I mean, I think you can't use the Rolling Stones in a movie now unless you are Martin Scorsese

or you're the Rolling Stones. in a movie. Well, you can get Marty's blessing. So I was smoking a J with Martin Scorsese and it turns out I made the godfather. So I was snorting cocaine with Martin Scorsese. We're making the last waltz. We're doing tons

of cocaine. I'm hanging out in the backstage during after hours. It was a great picture. I've been sniffing Robbie Robertson's fingernails for the past 25 minutes. If you look really quick, in one of the shots it's actually not leave on helm playing drums but it's me stand the man if you look in the background i've been licking neil young's nose exactly chris i was about to say if you see me in the background i'm trying to cover up his coke nose neil young's coke nose it was at that very

concert i was telling neil young i was like hey two things to lay off the coke and awkwardly hitting on jony mitchell because i was living with joney mitchell at the time we had a walk up in greenwich village And I was like, give it a rest, man, spoken for. Fun fact. I'm the subject matter of court and spark. So I like the fact that he denies or turns down entry into the Avengers at the end of this movie. I mean, even though you know it's coming in this whatever the fuck movie next year, this two-parter. But it was just a nice, like, I'm glad the movie.

he doesn't end with him, like, swinging through a building with Iron Man, like, right next to him having a great time. I do wonder, though, like, when they invite him to join the Avengers, like, what is that life like? Like, now you just got this, like, 15-year-old boy living around? Like, it's, it seems a bit illegal, to be quite honest. And, like, what are the vision and Scarlet which up to, like, do they, so they don't have jobs? They just kind of just putter around Avengers Mansion, talk about doing cocaine all the time. Research, quote, unquote? I guess so. Yeah, I mean, that's the problem, dude. Like, if you're in, like, these off hours, Avengers modes, it's a lot of just hanging out.

It's kind of like, you know, if you're at the Avengers compound in an off season for villainy and whatnot, I feel like it's kind of like living on a college campus for summer semesters. Yeah, there's like kind of stuff going on, but there's not a lot really going on. Him and Vision are just drinking in their bedroom. And where is this place like Utica? Like, it's really out of the way, right? Yeah, it seems that it's, it's like, don't they say, I mean, don't they say like Westchester or is that we're encroaching on X-Men territory? I think they just said upstate, which could be anything, but I just, yeah, that's true. An Ant Man, uh, wasn't there a sequence at this same facility with Falcon?

That's at the, it's at the Avengers. He breaks in there to steal something. I don't remember what it is. Yeah, something from them. It was hilarious how it's definitely this like, uh, uh, Oh, it's kind of like at the end of Godfather, too, when they have that scene where it's everybody sitting around the kitchen table and they're like, oh, grandpa's here. But like, they could not get Brando for the movie. So everybody leaves the room to go say hi to Grandpa. And it's kind of like that where they're like, oh, by Avengers, you're off on a mission.

But it's just the plane flying away. You can't see anybody. They dug. I was kind of amazed that Gwyneth Paltrow showed up. Because, like, she was, like, freaking David Miskavage's wife. It's like, is she dead or what? Like, where is she?

Where is Pepper Potts? She's goop. That's the thing is she's, she's, she's, is it goop or gloop? Goop. Goop. She's wrapped up in all these goop scandals. Yes. And she was in Mordecai, guys.

Come on. Oh, my God. That movie. Who. I couldn't get through it. oh really we finished it i couldn't do it i want you know it's awful i oh well i just don't let someone tell you it's not awful uh yeah so you know that it ends on that nice note i like uh apparently he's gonna be wearing this that that super suit that he turns down at the end of this movie

i sure hope not i didn't like the way that looked but you know maybe fool me what's going on what's going on looks like he got a new haircut the the picture yeah it looks like tony He kind of does. Wait, wait, does Infinity War going to end with him just taking a bite of food and you don't know what happens? Just black out? Holy shit, can you imagine

the outright nerdsplosion that would take place if that's how that second Infinity Wars movie ended? Oh my God, you'd be cleaning up so much feces in theater seats across the world. It's him in Gomorrah and fucking nebula.

Well, that's the thing. There's the Hall H footage that I saw anyway. It was Danos coming home from work and grabbing a Lincoln log off the kitchen island. And Nebula is trying to drown herself in the pool. And he has to let go in and jump in and try and save her. Oh, man. James Gandalfini falling in the pool. He doesn't get rid of that sausage, though. That's for sure. And then so the stinger scenes in this movie not too spectacular. On purpose. Like a gag. On purpose. Because what are you going to do?

I mean, the next step is these Infinity Wars movies. Yeah. Right? That's literally the next marble thing. That's the next. Oh, Thor. Oh, right. Thor. Well, there's no way to really connect that. Yeah, it's a bit out there. I did. I like the stinger with Chris Evans telling the audience to go fuck themselves pretty much. That was funny. That was funny. A lot of people, Steve, did you get this vibe when we saw it? a lot of people didn't understand the joke.

Yeah, I think that some people were just like, wait, what? Why is it not? Yeah, because we were having a good time giggling by being told to go fuck our nerdy selves. And everybody was like, so what's he? What is it? What is it? Oh, patience must be a new villain next year. So something to round out because, I mean, because that's Spider-Man homecoming.

That's, you know. We all liked it, right? I love it. the better, if not the best Marvel MCU kind of movies. It's just it's really complete. You know what I mean? Like even though we're tying in some other stuff, it just feels really grounded

in a very specific world more so than any of these other movies. For me anyway. Yeah, I had a good time seeing it. So yeah, I'd recommend it. So it's just Steve brought up Hall H and I just figured we should talk about the big thing coming out of Comic-Con

that we've all seen now at this point, to sort of tack on to the end of the episode here is the Justice League trailer so you can go to YouTube and watch that but how are we feeling what's the temperature of the room on Zach Snyder's the Justice League well is it Zach Snyder and

Josh Whedon now yeah yeah yeah I didn't want to get into that but yeah I'm sorry so so Zach Snyder and Just Whedon's Justice League or however they're going to credit that's well that's what's being talked about is that right that's a big deal right My apprehension is melting, and I know it's foolhardy. I know it's foolhardy because those freaking movies are terrible.

Wonder Woman was good, but the rest of them are terrible. And it's Zach Snyder, who, you know, I'm not going to start ragging on them in this. But, you know, it's all that stuff. But I'll be honest. I was like, holy shit, it's the Justice League. Wow, the Justice League are getting around. And yeah, it's getting me. It's getting me.

I thought it looked bad. Yeah. I'm with Cisco. Yeah, it just looked like nothing on the screen. And I just, I didn't like Flash or Cyborg or Aquaman. And that's like almost all the Justice League. Yeah, that's the problem. You don't like that many characters.

I'm interested in Aquaman and I like the fact that James Juan's doing the solo movie. But yeah, Flash is not interesting to me. The fact that they're trying to do Flashpoint is freaking nuts. What are you even saying? What is that shit? It's a major storyline in the flesh. They did it on the show. It's basically like him going back in time and like taking it like stopping stuff.

Like reshaping the history of the DCU, which is kind of odd as the history of the DCU is so un-informed right now with the cinematic universe. So what you're saying is like the flash you go back and like make it so suicide squad didn't happen? Yes, that's true. well he would make he would make an alternate suicide squad oh shit yeah some other people would be in there but maybe there'd be like an actual villain in that movie that'd be kind of cool nero it's the it's the it's the joker about to get a tattoo and the flash goes up to it's like hey that's going to look really stupid and he's like oh okay thank you very much i appreciate that i will not get any tattoos i didn't know that's going to look so stupid oh and then he then he plays

it straight and gets the regular job and that's when we see jared leto and And what was her name? Margo Roby. Roby. Yeah, together with that suburban life. That's just what the movie is now. Oh, right. They just grow up to be normies. But they kill themselves. Yeah, yeah. Without question.

So that's why it's the suicide squad. They get in a car in their garage and leave the door closed. The family suicide. There is, yeah, I don't know. My concern was like, so you got Wonder Woman who we've met. you've got Batman who we've met before but then there were three other characters we have not officially met this movie is going to be so long yeah yeah because if it's not it's got to be four hours long because if it's not so long then you're doing a bad job at making them characters in the

first place and i got to tell you i'm really concerned about the amount of screen time joe morton's gonna get at this point you get a little nervous i i would lower your expectations considerably he deserves to be on screen the whole fucking it's not going to happen here's my question why did J.K. Simmons get to such incredible shape just to wear the world's largest raincoat? Like, is there going to be a top of the scene at some point? Well, no. That's the thing

is you know there will be now. I guess so. There has to be a time where he takes off his shirt at some point. I would love that. That was also, I mean, listen, we'd all love that. But my thing about, that's my biggest concern of this movie, because I don't anticipate it to be good, but I like seeing

actors that I enjoy not waste their time. And my concern is, because, like, All he is in this trailer anyway is just the butt of the joke. They're all fucking breaking his balls. And I'm like, Jim Gordon is not supposed to be your point of comedy. This is not fucking Pat Hingle we're talking about here, okay? J.K. Simmons jacked out of his mind. For some reason.

I mean, it's the bane for you. I just want him to be used appropriately. I mean, we have, listen, Gary Oldman is the best James Gordon. Yes, cinematically speaking. And like, I want to see J.K. like sort of carry that torch a little bit and not just be a little fucking 17 year old flash making fun

of them. Unless this movie is six hours long as they can't give him that much time. I know. And then so like you know that he's a big actor and a bigger character so that means Joe Morton's getting even less screen time. Joe Morton's got nothing. Just cutting into his end. Let's talk

about the stinger there about like Jeremy odds like oh thank God you're here. It's clearly Superman, right? Am I not? It's clearly Superman. What are we even talking about like that's the only way that makes any sense and he's obviously in the movie they are that news is going around today which is hilarious that like he couldn't shave his mustache for some of these reshoots and they're going to have to what are we even talking about i love it i love this movie already it's so fucking i just want one cut one shot just to sneak in and he's got this

big caterpillar on his mouth well you know honestly just give superman a mustache for the whole thing go that can add the mustache. Oh, that would be pretty cool. I've seen things you can't believe. That's why I grew this pretty sick mustache. But it's like, it's such a dumb thing that you're trying to cover up in this trailer because it's someone who is clearly taller than Jeremy Irons and he's got red all over his shoulder.

Who the fuck else could it be? People are saying, also, why does Alfred have Superman's phone number? Because he's like, you got my call. No, no, you don't know. You don't know this. but Alfred's mother was also named Marr. Oh, fuck. No, but what call did he make?

Does he do it a seance? Oh, my God. If the movie begins with Alfred doing a Bill and Ted seance to get Superman in the movie, and then it takes like two hours to happen. They need to explore. Superman, speak to us.

Explore the dark arts. Yeah, make Alfred your Doctor Strange. Exactly. It's him and John Constitian and Tatumana. They're all there, and like, Alfred's like got like some headdress on. I'm into this idea. Was this Superman or?

Would you the child killed by the cold? That'd be great. If George C. Scott was still alive, bringing his character from the changeling in? Ooh, yeah. Just C.G.I. Ah, fucking Superman. Uh-oh.

Careful. People will realize that that's the same impression as Nick Nelty. Yeah, no. I'm sure someone's already cracked the case on Twitter. You know, it's so crazy how many breakthroughs people find on Twitter. It's really nuts. Yeah, I don't know. So I guess we can leave it at that.

When does that Justice League movie come out? November. Wow, so it's this year. November 17. I kind of feel like it's either an emergency episode or a or on screen, but we're going to see it. Oh, I mean, we're going to see it. Let's see the fucking thing. Because we're just, we're, we're huge losers.

Don't let anyone. Not that people who see this movie are huge losers, but we just. Gotta, got to have an opinion on trash. That's exactly right. It's irrelevant in pop culture. Might be some winners in that audience. We don't know. I know that of superhero movies coming out in the month of November,

one will definitely be way better than the other one. And that will not be called justice. What is the other one coming out in November? Thor, Ragnar. Well, we'll see. I mean, they haven't done a good Thor movie yet. Right? I need to rewatch those movies.

Yeah, I mean, that's another, I might be being suckered. Like, yes, Tycoeatiti is amazing. And, like, you know, and that's, he's going to add a lot to it. color it looks great yeah everything about the movie already looks and sounds miles better although i here's my question and stevedak resident comic book expert you can maybe answer this real quickly how is he talking so articulately as the hulk in this that's it i mean like because that hasn't happened before is that like asgardian magic they are going to change the character i guess i mean because clearly like that's not what the character's been i mean the

the hulk can and ken talk depending on who's writing them you know what i mean meaning what the story is. Why is that the one character they constantly change? This is a great question. It is a very good question. But hasn't he been on like Planet Hulk and maybe they're teaching him English? No, that's a good question. Planet Hulk, what the hell are you talking about? Oh, it's a big, it's a, it's a, it's a planet of Hulk's. This will be a planet of Hawks. That would be a great movie. You get Woody Harrelson fighting Hulk's And eventually the Hawks are going to win. Well, there'd be a bunch of like crippled horses because all these

hulks try to get on horses and just like destroy their legs. No, no, no. The apes can go on the horses. The Hulk's have to stay off. Honestly, two hours of just breaking horses and halves with Hulk's. I don't, that might be a good movie. Dude, they did that. It was called HBO's luck.

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