We Hate Movies - S8 Ep323: Episode 323 - Trick or Treat (1986)

Episode Date: October 31, 2017

On this week's episode, the WHM Halloween Spooktacular comes to an end as the guys have some fun with 1986's Trick or Treat! What's with this kid's horrible nickname? Why didn't the writers set any boundaries with the powers this ghost/demon has? And what was with that cowboy hat, Gene Simmons? PLUS: The Trickster gets kicked out of Sammi Curr's band! Trick or Treat stars Marc Price, Tony Fields, Lisa Orgolini, Doug Savant, Gene Simmons and Ozzy Osbourne; directed by Charles Martin Smith. And be sure to get your tickets to see us at the Brooklyn Podcast Festival at the Bell House on 11/18 when we'll be talking about Blade Trinity! Tickets here! Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Now on today's program, sadly, we are ending the Halloween spooktacular, but we're doing it in spooktacular fashion, if I may say so, with this fucking movie. It's called Trick or Treat. I'm Andrew Juppin. Stephen Sedeck. Chris Cabin. Eric Siska. And we hate movies. Sometimes

That is better Zombies have entered the building They're at the door They're coming in It is time to keep your appointment With the wicker man They're coming to get you, Barbara I'm sick for fucks he's seen one too many movies

Now I said, don't you blame the movies Movies don't create psychos Movies make psychos For creation! Put the fucking motion in the bag. What an excellent day for an exorcism. Hello, everyone. Thank you for tuning in to We Hate Movies.

Welcome to, as I stated up top. The final episode of the 2017 Halloween Sputacular. The film in question is called Trick-or-Treat. And before everybody's, you know, getting their feathers ruffled, no, it's not that subpar Brian Cox anthology film. No, it's a better movie. It's from 1986,

directed by a fellow named Charles Martin Smith. Up front, total recommend. Oh, wow. I liked it. I'm going to give a little tease. I'm not going to let them know until the end. See, I don't give up the goods. It might be a twist ending.

I really would love if there is somebody that was just only listening to this show for the recommendations. That's it. I'm out. Those people are out there. I've seen people complain. But as we've been.

saying over the years. I mean, our recommendations for these films are like the points in whose line is it anyway. It doesn't mean shit. It doesn't mean fucking shit. You're still wasting your time. You're still wasting your time. For the younger listeners, it's like the points on at midnight.

Oh, right. There you go. You know what? We gotta, you know. Yeah. It's a, yeah. Exactly. Be in the now. I never watched the second of that show, so I didn't know. Well, it's already cancelled. We'll have to figure out the next show. Oh, the next show with meaningless points. I mean, so I'll say this. Uh, this was one step in the right

direction. Opening credits. And Gene Simmons as nuke. Yeah, that's what you want. Thank you. DJ nuke. What? Uh, it just says nuke in the credit, but he is DJ. No, he just, DJ nuke. He's, he's a guy named nuke who. DJ nuke in the morning. In the morning. Miorning. Oh, that's in Sweden. Toilet flush. morning because it's Halloween Rocktover What is this movie about?

We should probably, it's an obscure film We should guide some people by the hand. Chris Cabin, take it away because this was your fine. Sure, a young man named Eddie and he's into the heavy metal. He's got a haircut that no child should have. He's got a haircut that I had from 1983 until

2007. No, you did not. It was shitty either way. But go on. He's really into the heavy metal. And his favorite heavy metal artist, Sammy Kerr. Sammy Kerr. The legendary, hometown hero.

He's a devil rocker, right? He's a satanic man. And he's called into, Sammy Kerr is called into, let me get it right here. The Senate Committee Inquiry into Heavy Metal Music. Into rock pornography. Rock pornography. Thank you for the terminology. It's such a great term.

pornography. Anyway, before he can... Oh, man, that's fucking sedimentary. That's dirty. Oh, look at these pebbles. Oh, my God. That fucking limestone. I'm getting my rocks off. There it is. There's the one. So, Captain, continue.

With this brief synopsis, by the way. I'm trying here. And he doesn't get to go to the committee, however, says he dies in a hotel fire. Yep, as one does. And his final recording brings on the apocalypse essentially something like that?

We got a spooky record going on. Yeah, he's kind of Lords of Salem is very Lords of Salem. It's like his ghost goes into the record which is the last like demo recording he's ever done or whatever. Sure. There's something to this effect.

So it's a cursed object. He really wanted to give it to Stevie Wonder because it's songs in the key of death. Yeah, that's fucking stupid. That's just great guys. I'll say a couple things up front. Did you guys notice who shot this film? Elswit.

The DP? Robert Ellswood. He shot all like P.T. Anderson's movies, like a ton of shit. And this was one of his like first goes as a DP. It's not terrible. No, it looks kind of totally good. It's serviceable. Did you hear that they were trying to get this out for a 20th anniversary DVD?

Wait, they didn't do that? They didn't because of music clearances. Oh, that's due to total lack of interest. Yes, that's also. Oh, wait. So the music. there was a problem with the band Fast Way, which is

a motorhead guitarist and a flogging Molly vocalist. It's the band. We got a super group on our hands. We do. It's a former guitarist from Motorhead and the dude who now sings in Flogging Molly is singing all of these fucking, this fake band's songs in this movie. And by

the way, the entire record is on Spotify. Oh, are you all nine tracks. I know exactly what I'm doing. Oh, man. what a fucking Halloween treat and this movie starts with like stand open like it's a voting song

of him being bullied in high school well this is a very clearly like did somebody drop the microphone in the toilet because like there's so much audio that you should be hearing but it's over this kid Eddie doing a letter to his favorite rock musician

like I get bullied in school you're the guy you're the best you're the best guy in the universe. Right. And there's all these scenes of like him actually being bullied with a bunch of dialogue that it's just not in the movie. No, it's kind of sloppy. Also, though, some of the most embarrassing bullying you'll ever see,

including this guy being bullied in the locker room and they like take his pants down. Andrew, do you know who the head bully was? This is just for you. No. It is Melrose's place is Doug Savant. What? Yeah, the, what's his name?

the homosexual gentleman or the first homosexual gentleman on television yes and the character is escaping me right now but wow is he named Grant no in this he is this the guy that looks like guile yes yes yes yes that's what I was saying

the whole time but the the embarrassing bullying thing was like they strip him down and throw him out of the locker room and he gets thrown right into girls volleyball practice completely nude and Doug Svant's girlfriend has a Polaroid waiting

to go. They really thought this through, man. They really wanted this. And this is like, I... They want them ass shots. Yes, of course. And they're going to put them on the webs one day. Well, yeah.

One day. So, Matt, Matt, Matt, okay. Sorry. But, like, that is the big... Like, I almost excuse the other stuff. Like, not, not, like,

hearing all the little shit. Yeah. But this is the exciting incident of the movie. Yeah, we should probably, hear what he has to say what's going on yeah why i mean but the thing about it is it's the 1980s he's a metalhead in a school full of what appears to be exclusively preppy's and then one other nerd character uh that is clearly the metalhead's best friend roger roger and but of course he's getting bullied what more what backstory do you what i do love about roger is it's

your classic there's not enough to form a metalhead click so you have to like informally just group losers together. It's like, oh, I'm an audio video nerd. I don't really like him. Okay, I guess I'm hanging out with Heavy Metal Kid. Sure. Close enough. Heavy Metal Kid, whose nickname, by the way, is Ragman. Yeah. Sure. Also,

the subtitle to the film. Is that right? Yeah, and other releases are called Ragman. This is called, this movie, we're, I watched a movie called Ragman. Yes, you didn't. You didn't tell me? I didn't tell you. I'm the rag man.

Yeah, exactly. What a stupid nickname. Maybe he was a big fan of the DC comics character called Ragman. No, he wasn't. God damn it, I know. What is that guy's deal? Well, he's he made of rags. He is made of rags.

Can he turn other people into rags? He's a gollum made of rags. Oh, okay. So, like, you know. Did you hang out with the one metal kid in school? No, there were enough comic book nerds that I could hang out with. So thankfully. Now, here's what I want to mention.

up front, because people may have passed by this movie, and I want to chastise whoever supervises the home video release of this, because... All right there, okay, you're gonna... On Halloween, you're talking about... You're talking to a dead person, is what I was about to say. Well, I think it's got to be a more contemporary DVD release

because I've passed by this movie several times. I'm like, it's on Amazon or Netflix or somewhere. Yes, it's not, yeah. And the cover that they have is just a spooky looking house in the background, and then, contemporary photographs of Ozzy Osbourne who has a cameo in this movie and Gene Simmons

just both as old deep and I've looked at this a thousand times and gone in a video store? No, it's either on Amazon or Shudder one of these fucking things and I've looked at it so many times and just gone I have absolutely no interest

in watching this and when Chris suggested it for the spookacular I looked it up and I was like fuck it's this movie and this movie is so much better than cover allows it to look like it is yeah what a bad job if you made that cover and you're listening to this you should never make another DVD box and I'm just imagining some guy in front of a big Macbook pro but if you look what I had to work with it's so difficult these instruments they sent me they sent me

higher as JPEGs of Ozzy Osbourne and and and Gene Simmons what can I do they wouldn't even pay for a shutter stock I had to go to Google image. It's illegal. I was like, let me photograph my own Jack a lantern.

It's called... They said no. No. I said the no to a jackalantan. But it's so dumb. It's like, it's like Ozzy

coming off the set of that reality show and a fucking picture of like a 65-year-old Gene Simmons. That's it. You think, you think that show holds up?

No way. No way. What getting to know Ozzie or whatever the fuck? What was that called? The Osborne. It was just, What's called the Osbournes?

The Osbournes. So, you would yell his wife's name? That was a lot of fun. Yeah? Just like that. That's eight seasons. Eight seasons.

That sounds like eight seasons. Oh man, remember Hogan knows best? He also yelled at his wife. That's right. Linda, where's the tuna? Yes, Linda. That's what it was. You remember all their wives's name.

One of the things that is disgusting, so we're showing, we're showing a news broadcast of Sammy Kerr testifying before Congress and they're talking about like his outlandish stage performance and you you see this dude on stage cut open like the top part of a snake and just drink from it the top part like near its head welcome back to animal talk with Andrew Juppin so there's the top part um and it's kind of like where the hole is where the where the hole comes in and then there's a bottom part

And that's where some of them have rattles. Nope. That's not how you bite a snake. No, that's the incorrect way to bite a snake. What you have to do is take it all in your mouth at once. You're kind of filleting the snake a little bit too, right? It's looking pretty sexy. I'll tell you what.

We're bearing the lead here, as is this news story. Because he turns it on and they're starting the story and they give you all this information. And then they're like, yeah, Sammy Curry died in a fucking hotel fire. That's what's awesome. this woman talks for five minutes on this news broadcast and this kid's like watching it along and he's like, yeah, there's my fucking heroes sticking into Congress. And then the woman is essentially like,

but none of that matters now because Sammy Kerr burned to death in a hotel fire last night. How else do you want us to get backstory through? It's kind of amazing because eight minutes of the movie have passed by. We've seen some stuff. He's been writing this letter to this dead person, which is going, by the way, to Hoboken New Jersey. That's where this guy's from.

Yeah, well, that's where the record label is. Oh, I see. So also, this guy, Sammy, yeah, Satan Records, Sammy Kerr is a hometown hero of this kid. He went to this high school because the letter's like, you got out of here, man, you fucking told this town they could fucking suck your ass and you gave it the finger on a motorcycle as you drove away. But he also like was rejected from playing the Halloween dance

and this is a big sticking points for him. And it's mentioned on the news. Like wait a second, you're successful like rock musician who gives a fuck about, your high school. Yeah, why would this dude even agree to go back to do this? Like, you hated this town so much. You're not going back there to play the high school. And it's only for one metalhead kid.

Apparently, there's no one else in the school that likes heavy metal. Roger, excuse me. Roger is only grouped in. He's okay with it. He can appreciate the amount of noise at an AV level. Roger likes computer programming

and sketch comedy. And he gets looped in with the metalhead kids. So clearly, Mr. Bauer, Ragman himself. The ragman, the rag. Hey, Ragman, you are the rag? You know where that's going, and how these bullies don't make that joke. He's got a personalized license plate that says Ragman.

That's great. It is great. It's fodder. It's fucking cannon fodder for these bullies. And they're not using it. I missed this. So he has a license, a vanity. Oh, yeah, he's got a vanity place.

It says Ragman on it. Oh, they're taking it really easy on them. Honestly, that's what I'm saying. He should get more for that. Like, that's, like, daily polarites of your ass around the school. So Ragman is very upset about the death of the legendary Sammy Kerr. What happened to this hotel fire? We kind of see it a little later, but not really, like,

he may have been doing satanic rituals and or smoking on the toilet. Like, we're not entirely sure. You know what, though? It's definitely one or the other. Because you can't smoke on a toilet during his satanic. I'm not ruling out lighting his own farts on fire. Oh, yeah. That could definitely be also just a classic smoking in bed, which is also very dangerous.

I love to do that. If anything. Well, supposed to be a smoking crack in bed, like that's going to pass right out. I mean, you got to have a fire chief, like, being interviewed by the news, and it's just some fat guy with a fireman's hat on. He's like, yeah, this fire was unusually hot. In my 30 years, we've never seen a fire burn this hot in a hotel. Yeah. This guy's definitely dead.

Oh, please. And Sammy Kerr is a well-known musician, well-respected in a metal. He's smoking meth, not crack. That's true. The guy's got some standards. Is that true? Wow. Was that common in the day? At the time. Back when you were a rowdy? Yes. I was a rowdy with Metallica, clearly. Well, excuse me, it's 1986. Where is the cocaine and heroin? That's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah, maybe some free basing, too. Yeah, for sure. I mean, of course. He left the spoon burn in too long. Something like that, dude. So in his distraught state, he goes to what I was guessing was his internship at this radio station.

Q Gene Simmons in this cowboy hat, by the way, which is quite fantastic. And he's just like, oh, hello there, Ragman. He's dressed like macho man Randy Savage. He really is. Well, excuse you, macho man Randy Savage going to a funeral. Okay. Because that's all what the wrestlers do. It's your outfit, but it's all in black.

Yeah. It's your stage outfit, but all, or your ring outfit, excuse me. Well, considering how much he, like, merchandises himself, I'm not, like, putting it out of context that he could have been trying to get into wrestling at this point. That's true. Oh, I'm sure. I could go for a nuke action figure. Guaranteed, Kiss has appeared at some sort of WWF thing over the years. Like a big articulated Todd McFarlane 12-inch, uh, nuke action figure.

Yeah. And you know what? It stands for the fucking national anthem. Did you hear about this with Kiss? No, did he really? Yeah, they did this whole thing. I think they did the National Anthem at a concert or something. Oh, that's what?

You want to talk about disrespecting the troops. Here Kiss, sing the National Anthem. I guess we died for nothing. She's telling me a bunch of goblins are going to sing about America. Wait, I'm sorry. So, did they stop performing? And because, hey, everybody else to stand up. I'm not going to finish this great song until.

Hey, Greg. Greg, get up out of that chair now. He's got it. You pulling it up to see what the deal is about this? Yeah, Kiss takes a shot at Colin Kaepernick. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Kiss stop concert to lead the crowd in Pledge of Allegiance.

Jesus, that's bone-chilling. You know, there's nothing more punk rock than that. Man, yeah, that is so metal Peter Chris and others. Jesus Christ. What the world is coming to. They should be pissing and shitting on the floor. Hey, I was on Celebrity Apprentice. Everybody stand up and cheer the national anthem.

Oh, that's right. He was. Wow, that fucking pig. That's exactly what that is. Did he lose? He must have. I don't know. He didn't win.

I'll tell you that. So yeah, he is. Fuck you, Gene Simmons. Absolutely. For many, many reasons. It's like that scene in Aladdin of take all of column A. You know, just a huge column of shit. That's the reasons to dislike Gene Simmons.

Oh, man. But that fucking kiss toothpaste, though, man. Yeah. You never matter. That cancels it all out. Kissed toothpaste. So Gene Simmons is like, I'm sorry,

your rock legend idol is dead. But guess what? I have a gift for you. And it's just this record. And it's like this on-release material and Gene Simmons is going to play it at midnight on Halloween. Which is technically not Halloween.

Yeah, I don't know that Gene Simmons is thinking about that. Yeah. I don't know that Gene Simmons is thinking about that. I would doubt. it. I mean, you should play from Deaville's Night into Halloween. That's my new favorite holiday.

What is that from? The crow. Oh, right. Which I rewatched recently. It holds up. It's pretty good. What about Crow City of Angels? Not so much. I didn't watch it again.

It's bad. There's a bunch of those Crow movies. How about wicked prayer? Have we talked about the shot in the crow where they took a shot with a Wait, you're talking about when Brandon Lee was shot? No, no, no, no. When they're doing, here's the devil's night, my new favorite out. That was what killed them?

They put a bullet in their mouth. They took a shot of whiskey with it. Yeah, yeah. You got to shit that bullet out. They swallow the bullets? Yeah, you're shitting out of bullet. You're literally shitting bullets. I'm thinking you're getting something else in the shit in a bullet.

I think something else is happening. No, I don't think you're going to cut to 10 hours. Devil's nights my favorite holiday, but this is the worst night of my life, man. I'm losing my intention. intestines out my asshole. I would be so paranoid if like... Dude, there's blood! Exactly.

Or even worse, dude, your stomach acids and whatever else like melt down the gunpowder a little bit. And that shit goes off in your asshole. Can you imagine? And then it like breaks the toilet. And then you got to fix that. Well, you're dead so you don't have to worry about a broken toilet.

That's on the plus list at that point. Your next of kin have to worry about that broken toilet. So it's best to drink bullets in public. So, yeah, he gets his record, and it's the last record that he ever did. And, you know, he's going to play on midnight. And, like, he's, oh, thanks so much, man. And I guess, like, he made a tape of it. Gene Simmons made a tape that he's going to play off.

He's already bootlegged this, so way to go. So he gives him the original. I wouldn't give this kid the original. That's what I need to understand. First of all, I know eBay doesn't exist, but you can sell that shit. Oh, sure. But that's what... He's such a super fan.

I need to know, though, what the ragman's relationship is to this radio station. Like, is this... kid's dad? No. No. But like what is it then? Is it an internship? Does he work there? He's probably like his father figure, I guess.

Well, clearly. A best fan kind of a thing, you know. Calls in a lot. Does a lot of requests. This loser kid seems to, he's nice enough. But the movie just never sets up why this kid goes to the radio station. That's because the other Jim Simmons for a day. Because like the next scene, he's a puddle of clothes.

Yeah, he vanishes. So that's it. So you get Gene Simmons for one day. Yeah, I know, by the way, once this, this, this rocker dies, right. He takes down all the, uh, other posters of, you know, false idols. Oh, yeah, and motley, yeah, a lot of anthrax in there, man. A lot of anthrax. Uh, yeah, they all get torn down and this dude's a little fucking shit fit.

I think I might have even seen some annihilator stuff in there. I don't know for sure. Oh shit. It was that a metal man? Probably. Yeah, they were, they were from like South Jersey. Hello, we are shit fit. That's a good name.

They put out one, precisely one EP. I like it. Hey man, that's all that was needed. He said everything we wanted to. Yeah, they're legends in Santa Cruz. So at some point, like this babe invites him to a pool party. He's at school. And she's like, hey, man, I feel really bad about photographing you nude on the volleyball court yesterday.

Come to this pool party. The pool party, by the way, is them breaking into the high school to swim in the school pool, I feel like that's a big problem. It's always a bad idea. Nobody, I mean, look at Chud 2, first of all of Chud 2, it follows, let the right one in. All of these are bad things. Wait, we're talking about pool

horror? Yeah, pool horror. The faculty. The faculty is great, right. The end of Nightmare 2. Yeah, Nightmare 2. Yes, absolutely. Nothing goes well with pools in horror movies. Hackers. Yes.

There's like, like, it's fine if it's like six or seven kids. This is the party from Boogie Nights happening in this school fucking like John C. Riley's making iced margaritas in the back. May I see it? But get the net kid.

You were just humiliated not 25 hours ago. Yeah. Nobody wants to see you at this party. You are opening yourself up. Rogers are not going to this party. Roger knows well enough to stay home. Raj is at home because there's a fucking episode of outer limits on that he's never seen before.

Smart young man. That dude is tuning in. You better believe it. Chicken salad sandwich and all. Also, though, I don't believe that this woman has any sort of animosity toward him. She's actually trying to make good. She is. She's in on it.

There's two, I mean, there's the girl who is, looks to be into him from the beginning, essentially. Right. And then the other woman is Matt's or whatever, isn't it, Tom? In this movie, he's Tom, the blonde one. The main bully. Main bully, Tom, his girlfriend. And she's the one who gives him this speech in this pool. Right.

About how I was like, you're so creepy. Why do you? And she's trying to be like nice about it. If you just weren't such a creep, we could be friends with you. And this kid's just like eating it. And then the other dude comes up and he's yelling at him. Great line here. This guy says, you got ears, dildo? Man, just calling someone a dildo.

That's embarrassing. Well, I mean, to be fair, he's being polite at first. All he's telling him is to get the fuck out of here. Which is the right move. Like, you know what, dude? And that's polite. That's polite. for high school that's polite

Hey man you're getting in on our breaking and entering And I don't appreciate it Especially when you're in high school It's made up nothing but 24 year olds Oh my God dude It's kind of outrageous It's really funny These are some old ass people

Playing high school kids So of course he gets pushed in the pool They put it's like They try to kill him It's a gym weight Yeah And they put it in his backpack And just dump this dude in the pool man

And somehow the record is saying. Yeah, that made no sense to me. I was wondering that the whole time. Like, wait, was there a scene where he went home or something? And put that, like, it's not addressed. There's no way. The records, I guess, not on him at this time. It is.

Though that's like. It should be. He says he puts it in his backpack. He says that? Yeah. He says, I will take this from you with my arm and put it in my backpack. That's exactly right. Okay.

It's a really good movie. Yeah, I mean, all right. Yeah. I mean, he could, for all I know, yes, he did stack, but it makes no sense. They don't make that clear. Here's what they should have done. The record falls out of the backpack and it goes to the bottom of the pool. Yeah.

And it starts making the water bubble and boil. Oh, shit. Like all it took was, dude, you got that record wet after midnight? Oh, yes. There are more Gremlin's connections coming up. Absolutely. So he starts losing it. He starts screaming shit like, I'm going to fucking nail these guys to the wall, all this shit.

And I had the thought that this was the innocent year of 1986, man. And thankfully, he is just going to go home, put on a satanic record, and resurrect a demon. Because otherwise, if this is 2017, that's a school shooting. Absolutely. That's exactly what this is. So thank God it was 1986. And all we had was demon albums. So it reminds me a lot of, like, evil speak a little bit, right?

Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Yeah, too, for sure. Big time, except he puts on a record instead of going to a computer. And it's also kind of like brain scan in a lot of ways. Oh, yes. I was thinking about the whole time, like this, what comes out of this record, this demon guy, the Sammy Kerr undead? Yeah. Reminded me a lot of Trickster.

Like, was Trickster in this band? Oh, that definitely could have been, dude. He played bass. I'm playing bass with Sammy Kerr. I'm mixing his albums. Oh, I think I'm going to leave this band fast way. Sammy Kerr is a control freak. I can't get any of my songs on the albums.

Well, fancy meeting you in hell, Sammy. Do you want to get it on my mailing? Oh, you've got a record thing going on. That makes total sense, man. I'm going to do a base jam session with Les Claypool. Oh, man, he's not dead. Trickster loves Primus thought. So, yeah, he goes home playing this record.

He plays a record, and when he plays it backwards, I, for me anyway, I had difficulty hearing this character the entire movie. I'm like, wait, what's he saying? It's a lot of just, it's a lot of like, you know, finish them. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, finish them. Ragman, ragman. I mean, other times it sounds better and clearer than other times. At this point, he gives him like the blueprint for an awesome killer prank.

Is that my understanding? I guess that's the idea, right? Because he has this whole thing where he's like setting up traps for people. kind of, or like, things to get in the way. Right, yeah. He's like, here's what you're going to do to those bullies. Okay, first of all, you're going to take a mopping bucket and you're going to put it out in front of the teacher's hall.

Okay, and then you're going to go and put a chair in the hallway. They're going to trip on that chair later. We'll get to it. It's just like, bear with me. Bear with, no, no. Just let me explain everything first, and then if you have questions, we'll go back to them. We call this a final destination. Okay.

Then you take the tray of food and you throw it on Tom's perfect little face. Then you run away. They're going to give chase. Boom. That's where the chair comes into play. It's funny that you said Final Destination because the dude who plays like the nerdy buddy in this movie went on to like write and direct some of those movies. Oh, Glenn Morgan. Yeah.

He writes like the best X-Files episodes. Yeah, he was a big dude on the X-Files. He's got something to do with that lore show. Like this guy... That's Roger? That's Roger, dude. Raj grew up to be very successful in Hollywood. Rodg did good.

Yeah, so maybe it's because they went to the same high school, so he's like, did Mr. Hembury retire or no? Okay, he's not... I can't believe he's still there. Go to his office. He's always got an extra pair of scissors. That's his thing. So, yeah, he like throws food in the bully's face,

and it's like this whole to do... Well, he runs... So, yeah, like Eric said, they run into a chair. like he's got like 10 bullies with him someone to get picked off by a chair someone can pick up by a mom mop and bucket with the water and this dude

just one bully just slips and slides like out a window or door he goes right up the fucking front door it's like we're in Raiders it's like we're last crusade and like someone drives off a cliff or something

yeah that kid's dead yeah I think so and then Tom is like oh I'm going to spray him with the fire extinguisher and he kicks open the wrong door and I guess he like sprays an AA meeting what is going on in this room

I thought it was the teacher's loud. Okay. You don't have to do, you know what? We're glad you're getting help. But you don't have to unload your personal life. Probably shouldn't be in the middle of a high school during the day. And I didn't even know that the car was in neutral. I wasn't paying it.

Get out of here, jerk! Just getting douged with this fire extinguished. I left my daughter another voicemail today. That didn't. Nerd! I deserved that. At one point, somebody calls him a wussy fucking weak tit,

which is a pretty great insult. I liked that. But by the way, this bully that sprays them, the teachers, I guess, his punishment later we've come to find out is janitorial services? What? You suspend him.

Forced to be my butler. What I love about this, though, this is the thing that, I mean, it's a real problem in, like, pop culture and other places where it's like, we look down on that shit all the time when it's like, oh, you did a terrible thing, you broke up that AA meeting with the fire extinguisher, and now you have to do disgusting, the worst disgusting, despicable thing I can think of, janitorial work, and the janitor is right there, like, uh, I can hear you. I have a house. I'm a person. steady income. I also have insurance. I don't know what, okay. I have my own metal band. We're called shit fit. We've got an EP out.

I'm synthesizer, so I don't have much, but we're working on it. Oh, I want to be part of shit fit. Oh, that's such a better name than Fastway, isn't it, Jeremy? Jeremy! Oh, you're not born yet. That's right. I have to wait for CD-ROM.

to be invented. Good on you, Sammy Kerr, getting into the record biz. Guess I'll just continue playing this base until I hear otherwise. Man, I hope the trickster learned to change his business model, man. Otherwise, that dude is out of business. That's a good point. You know what, Sammy, I'm out of here. You know what?

Every time we try to fucking have a practice, trickster takes over the whole damn thing. Please go back and listen to our eyes. episode on brains again if you have no idea what yeah it's like that's the that's how it's like the it's like the enigma code so the bully like tries to get back at this dude and there's another like final destination type thing here where this bully he almost gets murdered by this like table saw thing and the guy our hero the ragman is about to just stand back and let it happen oh he's thinking about he should have let it happen kind of like all right then you know other things that

or more reprehensible in this film would not occur. That's actually true. No, I don't know. Do you think Sammy Kerr would stop at one body at that point? Well, no, but I feel like the ragman would have less impetus

to continue out his plan. You think he'd be in jail for this? I don't know. It's hard because like it's the bully, the kid and another bully. I feel like the other bully is going to make shit out and be like, yeah, he killed him.

Yeah, exactly right. Even though that bully totally runs away, he like runs behind the corner but yeah, he would make something up to avenge his bud. But, like, the bully's tie just gets caught into this machine, and he's like, it's a wig of them. It's going to get worse for, it gets better. Which goes down as some of the best security footage of all time, animated or otherwise.

Or that studio head at the beginning of Roger Rabbit. Yes, yes. Valiant. That dude's kind of getting off on that. I don't know why, but it is. Yeah. He's into it. So the Spike's about to go into this dude's head, and eventually,

Ragman does he does he does the right thing yes he stops the machine but if you just let the machine happen I mean this I mean Tom still dies

sure yeah that's true might as well die earlier more gruesomely Tom actually has a great line delivery the actor kind of like mucks his words in this take that they used and he's like a big surprise for a trick or treat

he goes it's not over yet me ann it's not over yet he just says me yeah What is me and me? He's trying to say, oh, I see.

Are we sure? I mean, it might be a 1986 colloquialism. Oh, that could be, actually. Yeah, no. You goddamn me, and. You know what? Maybe we shouldn't say it. I don't know what it means.

So this is what... I was actually very, you know, applause for this movie because we're throwing wussy around all sorts of things. I was expecting an F-bomb. I really was. Yeah.

I was like, I was just ready for it. I'm holding on to my couch. It never came. No, that's actually quite surprising. There's no gay slur. in this movie. What with the nude bullying that happened? It was kind of just right there. That's why

I'd lean to closer to recommend for me. So because he's now like friends with this ghost and the ghost is like in his cassette tape and wherever else, he's like, he's given this like boost of confidence and there's this weird shot where he's driving his car, the

ragmobile. What are we calling it the ragmobile? Ramobile. Guarindee. Well the license plate says ragman. It's all right there. but he's like, he's like speeding down this street and he's listening to this fucking terrible music and he's like, you know, nodding along, fucking loving it. It's listening to it backwards, by the way,

and talking to this ghost and you see him and he's just running all of these red lights. Like, come on, Ragman. If you want that confidence to be knocked down a peg, just keep doing that shit. Yeah, and also I guess like in the news at the time, I mean, we all heard about the satanic panic, right? Of course.

whole, like, playing records backwards. So that's how he communicates with this. And there's a scene. I think he's dreaming. And it's, um, he sees Sammy Kerr, I guess, in the hotel room that's, well, on fire. Yes, but they kind of also infer that that's what actually happened, that that was what it was. And he was in the middle of a ritual. Oh, right.

Yes. And he was talking backwards like he was in the, uh, Black Lodge. Meagr, deaf. She's meh. M. Madalika. It's crazy, and then fire's walking with them. Just walking with all that fire?

Yeah. So he, at this point, Sammy does come to life. There's like some, like, he spills soda on the machine or something. It's always a soft drinks problem. Soda and Sammy comes out and he's like, we're going to get all these sons of bitches back. And he's like, yeah, man, cool. And he's still kind of with it. So we're at like.

Is it like a lover's lane situation? Makeout point. It's also like dawn, which is a weird time to be, I mean, I guess why don't you've been up all night, partying. Well, they always cut to this kid. He's got like a secret drinking problem. Like, he's always sort of drunk and you never see him drink. Like, later in the movie. Who the bully?

Yeah. Hey, man, it's gone. I'm like, when did you get wasted? I wonder if that was like a ratings thing. They didn't want to show pounding beers or, I don't know alcohol use in this at all. Yeah, I don't know what this is rated. It's got to be R because there's a significant amount of nudity. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it was the 80s. I mean, those John Hughes movies have nudity. They also have a lot of casual racism in them, and they'll still go PG ratings. That's true. So we're at this makeout rage. These kids are going hot and heavy. And then the dude, like, stops everything.

He kills everything because he's got to go to the bathroom. Big problem. This is an embarrassing moment for this guy, and he doesn't realize it. It seems more like a desperado moment. Like, he's just, like, peer. out at the like if desperado came on the fucking radio he's just peering out at the sunrise while his girlfriend he's stewing in the backseat about to listen to ragmans well you know sometimes man if you're you know urinating and there's a view before you while you're doing it it's just

kind of like I'm you know you're one with nature yeah or I remember one time I was I was at I was eating dinner at a restaurant no no no but in the bathroom oh it was very it was very it The restaurant was very high up in a building. And in the bathroom, in front of every urinal... Framed pictures of eagles. No, they had... Even better, dude. They had windows.

What? And so it's in, like, the middle of Manhattan, and you're way up on. No, it's the Rainbow Room, actually. Oh. And you look at you, just look over Manhattan while you're fucking urinating. I was like, yeah, I'm pissing on this town. Man, I would... Fuck you, New York.

Man, I would piss forever. It was, you know what? It felt like it lasted forever. That's a beautiful thing. It was great, but that's... I gotta take a piss up there, hurt. That totally, dude. Oh, do they have that?

Can I use your bathroom? Do they do the stalls reverse so you can do that while you're taking a shit, too? That is a good question. Like, like, hopefully the ladies room would also have a view. Yeah. Man, what a skylight, maybe? What a great idea, actually. Like a side door to the urinal or the toilet and the stall, you get in there and you're facing a window.

Well, it would have been a one way. Well, of course. I mean, you know. Now, how about this, dude, take it one step further. Make it like, I think. you know, like, maybe some medieval castles had this type of situation where the latrine just goes off the side of the building. Like, there's no flush, just fucking piss on people.

One step further. Let's just put the toilets on the sidewalks. Just take shits in the middle of the street, like everybody intended and shit on cities. True. Some people are way ahead of the game with that one. A shit porch is all I want. A shit porch, yes, thank you. You know what was a weird bathroom situation?

I never went there, but I heard about it. I don't remember. Maybe it was on the radio or something. For a while, I don't even know if it's there anymore, but I think it was in Pittsburgh. Jerome Bettis, the bus, the bus himself had like a steakhouse or something. And one of the things with... This is his beef. Wait, this is a man that's a bus. Jerome Bettis was called the bus. He was a football player. Oh, okay. This is built like a bus. Welcome to Bettis's beef company. I mean, yeah, whatever it was called. But apparently the men's bathroom, it was the same urinal situation that I had, but you were just looking out over. over the restaurant. It was like a fucking one-way mirror. Ew. That's disturbing.

I'm just pissing on these diners. Very strange. Yeah, I would think so. I would think that would scar you. So, um... We're rolling out, pissing on diners. Diner's pissers and drives. This place has got an appra shit porch.

That would be awesome. He stops talking about the food, and it's just him going around raiding places he takes shit. Yeah, it's bathroom reviews. Oh, man, that piss was one-way ticket to Relief Town. It's like I'm pissing on the diners. I'm looking at that sweet brother, fistpounds. It was a bathroom engineer, you guess?

Yeah, I guess. Thank you. So who designed this bathroom? Bring him on up. You're the mastermind, huh? Ha, Fred. Um, no, so he, uh, he, uh, Tom goes to piss or something. And then the girlfriend is just like, oh, I guess I'll listen to his walkman while he's gone.

Sure. Because apparently, she must know that he's known for long pisses. If you're like, I guess I'll put some music on while I wait. I'll listen to side A while he goes. Well, he's been drinking all night. Yeah, that makes sense. And so, yeah, she puts this cassette on and it's like, What, it's, it's amazing.

So this was like, this is where this movie turned from like, all right, this is kind of stupid to like, oh, my God, this movie's crazy. It's, it's like a green hand escapes from the headphones and goes down her body and starts to undress her a little bit. Yeah. And then a lot bit, I would say. It's like the, it's like the, it's like the, you see the bits. It's the cousin of the Ghostbusters blowjob, actually. You're absolutely right, yeah. She's being pleasureed by this ghost, I guess.

But then it manifests as like this giant goblin creature. A long-tongued demon. Dude, I think they stole a prop from critters. Where is this coming from? Why is this in this movie? It never comes back again. Never. Never.

Never again. How do you bring this in and be like, that's it? So, whatever. I assume a crime was committed. here. Guaranteed. I would think so. Is this like a demon

of our rock star guy? Or did he just take a different form possible? That was like one of his minions, I assume.

Oh, fine. You can borrow my hell demon, but you better get it back before Halloween. I have plans for it.

Chexter, I hate to tell you, you also have to bring your own amp. God damn it! Once someone invents a laser disk,

you're all in trouble. That's all I'm going to say. Live it up now, stupid. But yeah, so it's this big goblin person. And like, you hear her scream and then Tom comes back. Cut to like the car like is rock. And then, yeah, he comes back and like, she's like partially melted, at least in the ears.

The headphones have melted to her ears. Yeah, dude, that's just fucking classic fast way. What is it with this like the late 80, early 90, like. like the fucking ear trauma shit. Like, why? Why? The goopy ear shit, man. I guess that's a trigger for you.

It is a little bit. Freddy's dead. This? What else? Nothing else. That's it. That was enough. There's got to be something else.

I'm sure there's a hundred things that I haven't seen. Tweet at Crabbin on Twitter. Yeah. What are other ear trauma movies? I really want to. Fuffed up ear shit. I'll make a list that I never watch. No, send Chris Cab and fucked up ears.

Like that's really fuck them up Hashtag ear shit You always had another metal band We are ear shit We sure are This is our first and last show Steve's right A podcasting I think is

Ear shit Yeah we're on iTunes under ear shit That's what the E is for us for ear shit We're told by the way That this woman is not dead But she is in fact in the hospital That's all we hear is like She's in the hospital

Never to be seen again Forever. Yeah, exactly. Like, what happened? Like, the morgue is in the hospital. Yeah, that's a really nice thing for the mom's in the hospital. Which part, which floor? Open basement.

And now we're calling the cemetery of the hospital too. So he comes back like freaking out at this dude, you know, like, what did you do? Blah, blah, blah. But he does the right thing, which is, you know, you don't want to be the bully that tries to escalate. You just walk away. you know what man just stay the fuck away from me

that's what's yeah he's just at this point he's like just stay away from me yeah he's sufficiently weirded out cut to the second useless cameo in this movie Ozzy Osbourne as like a TV preacher

who's preaching about music pornography well I mean what are we trying to say about this movie that's my question like is heavy metal music bad or is it good it seems like it's supposed to be good because everybody likes heavy metal music Well, this this actualizes the idea that heavy metal people are actually summoning the devil.

Yes, exactly. So that's the whole arc of the movie, is that that actually happens. The one metal head we meet is this shithel, you know? He's a shithel who has to learn a lesson. But before he learns that lesson, he very much becomes like a teen wolf situation. Sure. Because he's walking around this fucking school like the king of the hill. Just dance around like, see you later, babe.

He's definitely, like, walking with a strut. And I was like, this guy's teen wolfing right now. This demon in a cassette tape. Yeah, he's teen wolfing, baby. You better believe it. Yeah, because the suggestion isn't that he would have had the one thing gotten his revenge and been done. No, no, no, no, no.

The minute you get a taste of the devil, you want to kill every fucking buddy. Right, but it's only with that bully, though. When he hears what happens to the girl, he's upset by it, and he wants to back out of this situation to which the demon, The demon singer is like, no, no, no, no, no. We're in it for the long haul now. Now I'm real out. By the way, so he lives with his mother.

Eddie does. And she hears some, like, crazy shit coming from this thing. And she goes into his room. Yeah. And they act like she has never been in this room ever. Yeah, ever. In her entire life, she's never been in her son's room. She's surprised he has records.

And then, like, she plays his music and she's like, Oh, my. Oh, my, no. Have you not heard it for the last fucking five years? But it's this weird bit, though, where, like, she can't turn it down. It's really loud. And it just keeps rocking and rocking and rocking. And I was like, oh, man. And this is where this movie loses points because I was like, oh, man, this woman's head is going to explode.

And it's going to be awesome. It's a movie where a woman's head could totally explode. Totally. And unfortunately, Eddie just comes in and breaks the whole thing. thing up, which is unfortunate. Well, they spent all their money on that fucking demon puppet. Oh, sure. So I don't know if they had many head smasters left.

Well, maybe they were supposed to do more stuff and then they broke it. Oh, no, we broke the puppet. Oh, shit. The dick fell off. It's useless. It was originally supposed to be able to move and be able to come out the thing. But then Bradley just fucking broke the thing and a half. It is seriously just someone, like, when you see it in the movie,

someone like pulls the back of it so it looks like it's standing up. And they, like, insert a monster noise and the whole thing lasts three seconds. That's all you've got. So when he tries to back out of this and the demon is like, no, no, no, this is where our friend comes through the stereo system. He's, like, born out of a speaker or some shit. And he's half burned, but half not. What with that hotel fire? This fucking two-face revealed.

Yeah. It's just like, here's one side of my face. And oh, look at the horror of that one. Better Two-Face than Tommy Lee Jones, I would say. Yeah, obviously. Anyone in this room was a better Tommy Lee Jones, better than Tommy Lee Jones at Two-Face. I was going to say, our Tommy Lee Jones aren't great.

They need some work. Here's the thing about Sammy Kerr coming out of the stereo system. It's one thing that's like mildly annoying about this movie, but I guess at the end of the day, it keeps surprising you because of it. The boundaries of what playing this record backwards can do it's constantly being smashed. You know, first it's just like

you're doing my bidding because I'm saying shit, then there's a critter in the car, and now you're like jumping out of a fucking stereo speaker, and I was like, where does it end? And he can now, it doesn't matter if you're playing it or not, he can play it himself or whatever. I mean, you got to, you

can't like do a hard sell with a kid. Like, you can't just be like, oh, here's my pervert demon. And like, and then he's going to be just fine with it. You have to be like, look, we're going to embarrass this fucking bully for a little bit. It's completely innocent. Don't worry about it.

And then the pervert demon comes in and starts melting years or whatever the fuck. And he's electric based. He's very much akin to the electric gremlin. Yes, he is. All of his powers are now based in electricity. Sure.

Which is weird. Yeah. I mean, I guess because he came out of a speaker. Well, it also reminded me of, what was that one movie we did in Sputacular a couple years ago, where the serial killer goes into, is it the phone?

Oh yeah, ghost of the machine. It's sort of like that, right? It's like wherever there's like electric whatever, Sammy Kerr ain't too far behind. Well, like in ghost of the machine, it's a little bit more creative. They're like, we're going to make the microwave, like cook the whole house or some shit like that. This is just he makes you disintegrate. Yeah, he's zapping a bunch of people. But he's also able to affect what is happening on television, which is really weird.

That was the weirdest. Well, okay, so the, uh, uh, a ragged. man gets Roger to steal the tape back. Yes. And then Roger takes it home and decides to make a very interesting milkshake that looks pretty good, including Hershey syrup.

Yes. Peanut butter. Oh, yeah. Milk and ice cream, I assume. Well, here's the thing. I think he's just this is a really stupid way of making chocolate milk. I see no ice cream. There's peanut butter. He's making himself a Reese's chocolate milk.

I assume before the scene started, they put some vanilla ice cream in there. At least that's what I would hope. It looks pretty delicious, and I got bummed out that this kid didn't get a chance to make it. And then Ragman calls him and says, like, hey, did you find the tape? Yeah. Oh, did you destroy it? Yeah, yeah, I did.

And then end the conversation, but he puts it on. Well, this is Ragman's fault, though, because he's like, hey, what's on that tape anywhere? And, right? Ragman says, oh, it's just something. It's unbelievable and awesome. You'll never even understand it. Don't worry about it. I'm just so glad you destroyed it.

Like, no. You say there's a demon. He's fucking up the world. It's the lost Beatles record. Don't worry about it. It's fine. What are the circumstances in which Ragman is not getting that tape himself, though?

Because he's grounded. Yeah, because his mother said no. Oh, right, right. Because that's the most metal thing to do is behave. He does hilariously smash that stereo system with a baseball bat. But Eric, you're saying? Well, then Roger puts on the tape

and then we get Sammy Curr. and there's a woman on television at the same time who's talking about, I don't know what, the sins of music. She was in it before towards the beginning. Yeah, we met her before during that first useless news report. It's Sammy Kerr reaches into the television set

and pulls her out and she's instantly a smoldering corpse. And then it collapses on the ground. And I forgot what happens after this, but... No screams from the television anchor that just watch somebody fucking like leave reality but I laughed so loud

after this all happens Roger just starts vacuuming up this fucking woman's ashes oh it's so great

he's like unfaced by anything in this movie oh it's so great but here's the thing like the scale of this old lady it's like he pulled

her out and she remained the size of the television thing you know what I mean like yeah it looks like she pulled out

the jigsaw puppet Then is she still alive and like the representation of her on television is dead? That's a great question. What was the point of doing it? Well, as it turns out, it's never addressed. But he certainly does vacuum up her asht. That is so fucking. Like a dog went on the carpet.

Hold on a second. We don't, she might have been three feet tall. That's really good. She might have been three feet. It's a very good point. So the nerd Roger goes to the Halloween dance at the school. Because Sammy Kerr tells him, he's like, look, you have to play this at the dance or you.

You are dead. And he's, well, I'm planning at the dance. Yep. It's all about me. I guess he's never heard of the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. He's just fucked up. He's going to do, he's heard of A number one. Yeah.

Excuse me. This man, just a few scenes ago, had spent a full 30 seconds looking up some cheerleader's skirt for some reason. Oh, right. He was getting a view. This woman was on a ladder. Yeah, it's pretty creepy. That's very creepy. I didn't need that.

So he goes to the dance and he puts this tape on. And basically, what's his face thinks the movie's over? Eddie's like, Ragman's like, cool, movie's over. Wow, it's weird that I still exist. I beat the devil. How about that? So then the lady friend calls the ragman and she's like, hey, are you coming to the dance?

He's like, eh, I don't know, probably not. And then in the background, he hears Sammy Kerr's brilliant music being played. And he's like, wait, what's that music? And she's like, I don't know, some fucking horrendous metal music. and he realizes that, you know, his buddy has screwed him. Sammy Kerr has got one more concert in him. And I, at this point, paused it. And I was like, oh, there's like 40 minutes left of this movie.

That's a shame. You're way wrong. What? Is it longer? No, this is the best 40 minutes in any movie. No, but I just couldn't believe that any movie. I mean, my God. So the ragman gets in the ragmobile

And he starts like trying to go to the school or whatever And like the ghost is in the car And it like prevents him from driving to the school And then it like I was getting lost here a little bit The car explodes But then it was only like the back end of the car that exploded He's like trying to kill him now Because he's trying to thwart his demon plants

And like he drives it like under a truck And cuts off the roof Yeah it's kind of like a lot of action for this movie. I couldn't believe it. It's not bad. So back at the dance, a live band shows up. I guess they're about to do some music, but the lead singer gets sucked into the amplifier.

Right. And Sammy Kerr comes out. And also, this movie, not a scary movie, right, but the most terrifying scene in this film is this band going on stage. Oh, my God. And this guy's like, you know, all right, high school, are you ready to rock?

ready for some sticks covers yeah they look like they're gonna cover some sticks man and then it's the classic like the band is totally unprepared and the guy's still tuning the guitar and there's amp problems and then people start booing them

oh my god my skin's crawl I'm getting fucking goosebumps just thinking about it now oh man there was a goosebumps book about that that actually sounds like this whole thing if you took out like the rape and the nudity and the foul language in this movie Sure. It could be a goosebumps tale.

Oh, no, I mean, it's literally just about a band setting up, but it takes forever. So, yes, as this guitar player is checking the amp situation, he gets sucked into it, and out comes our friend. And then everyone's like, woohoo, special effects at this high school is awesome. Woohoo, this metal band that none of us like. That's what's bullshit. This school is like basically just preppy kids. And all of a sudden, everyone is fucking rocking a wall. So are we to assume that

he cast a spell over them That's what I assume A love me spell? Yes, like a oh yes You are in my throes now Even though they like The minute he starts zapping these people Well we gotta talk about

So he starts zapping He starts playing his song And everyone's like oh it's so awesome Everyone's like rushing the stage practically But there's like good barricades for high school I guess They hired like a bunch of huge security guards Just stand there in yellow polo

shirts. And as he's playing, he starts to use his guitar as a gun and like electrocute zap these kids into the next world. Yeah, they just vanish. Just vanishing, dude, like you got hit with a lightsaber. I think their souls are now his servants in hell. I'm pretty sure that's what we're going on with this. And they one, one, the first kid is just appropriately dressing at the Grim Reaper and that had me laughing. That was pretty great. And then the rest of them just look like extras from round house he uh spared the clown he did yeah you know yeah terrifying doesn't harm terrifying he spared one clown you don't know where else it i mean his zaps could have gone anywhere it takes

him like six kids to realize that something is up and then everything starts going ab shit yeah and he shows uh eddy shows up um there's a lot of back and forth um they have to basically turn off the power to the school right and they can't do it and uh Sammy Kerr is about to get him and the girlfriend, and Roger sacrifices his life by using an axe. I mean, Roger is notably upset because, yeah, he did kill 12 of his student friends. It's kind of an awesome moment. They're having a back-and-forth on the school steps, I think it is, and this guy playing Roger is having this emotional line delivery,

and the actor totally coughs while yelling at this kid. It's so awesome. And again, they just left it because it's true. trick-or-treat, but he's like, don't you understand what? I've done it there. I got responsible for those deaths. Personally, I thought it made it more realistic. Oh, yeah.

Oh, sure. Like a mumblecore. Well, they're choking on the smoke of all of those deceased kids in there. Andrew Buzhalski's trick-or-chis. Yes, a mumblecore remake of this movie set in Austin, Texas to the scene of, you know, the indie music. Well, Joe Swamberg's already signed on. If you have a movie, that you're making, Joe Swamber.

Yeah, dude, an indie music demon. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Oh, mutual decapitation. Oh, that's excellent. Blood wax. Scary, uh-uh. Yeah.

Ah, yeah, so the nerdlinger jams this axe into the electrical box, and the dude is vanquished. For a moment. a moment or two. And it's kind of hilarious because the ragman thinks that this dude is dead and he's like crying

and then like the guy wakes up it's kind of like very anticlimactic there's no like we're pounding on this dude's chest like an ape

earn this well he wakes up and he's like I'm dying like it's kind of a gag I don't know if like I don't know if Raj makes it it is right

also at some point around here the jock is electrocuted until I presume his head blows off yeah he like kind of Sammy Kirk grabs his throat and like squeezes. Yeah, it looks like

it blows up or vanishes or whatever. He's done. Yeah, he's He's trying to make quick time with Eddie's lady. A sexual assault. Sexual assault is what it's called. But yeah, he really he's an awful person. It's good that he

died. It's sort of out of nowhere, too. I mean, like, he's a bully so sure, but then it's like, ah, I got to get killed in this movie. I better try and rape this lady. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Yeah, this bathroom. room assault that takes place. Hey, this is why he should have died earlier. That's a good point,

Eric. You kill him early. Yep. That's, hey, you know what? If I see a guy, looks like he might try something one day. Let his head get... I'm kind of justified in killing him. Take off, let his head get taken off by a power saw. That makes sense. I don't know, man. That's like future crime shit. That's a slippery slope.

Well, I don't know. It's not like... Well, wait, did they make a movie about that? They will. Oh. So, then it's weird because they come out of the school and the other jock friend it points to the ragman and he's like there's the dude that's the guy that did

this and I was like that's the guy that did this pause again 20 minutes left up couldn't even believe it yeah hit play for this third act and so then this the ragman leaves with this girl and they're like on the run and it's all these like

and again this is you know Ellswood's filming this shit dude there's all these great like amazingly composed shots of this couple running through these dark city streets out of nowhere. I was waiting for a saxophone to kick in. But like this is like the sequel or something.

Like the climax should have been the school dance. It's where everything has been leading to from the start. We're introduced to Sammy Kerr as like oh he's going to he was going to play the dance and now that his demons has played the dance. Curtains.

And yeah like Roger sacrificed his life. That's the end of the movie. You're actually, like, this is kind of like the first, if you added the first 20 minutes of Halloween to Halloween, it's exactly the same movie almost. That's exactly right. And so what happens is they realize that Gene Simmons is still going to play this record at midnight. And so they can't get a car or steal a police car, whatever it is,

so they have to like run to the radio station? One police officer gets blown to hell. That's right. For no reason. He's like, you son of a bitch. And he gets blown away, which I kind of love. And then they do steal a police car for a while. Oh, that's okay.

They go to the radio station. Gene Simmons is dead. They can't get inside of it. Yeah. Because they realize that, you know, Sammy Kerr can control everything. But he does have a consciousness. So the idea is like, all right, I'm going to go in the police car and I'm going to drive him away. Right.

And while I do that, you have to destroy the tape. Right. So he says, like, count to a hundred. a hundred or whatever it is, and then run in and destroy the tape. Because Sammy Kerr has, as the Ragman put it, put a force field around this tape deck. Uh-huh. So, like, he just cut to, like, some force lightning, like, wrapping itself around this reel to reel, which is like, all right. It's just all right.

Whatever you're going to do. So, you know, also, they're trying to call Gene Simmons. This was an interesting detail. He's trying to call Gene Simmons to, like, make it easy on himself and be like, hey, just don't play this, please. There's a demon of foot. Please don't play this. But when they call, the number that he's given

to call the radio station is a security desk where there's like a uniformed security guard? Yeah, just reading pornography for some reason. Definitely reading pornography because he's a security guard

in 1980s film. Reading pornography? Oh, he's getting it for the letters, man. But it was just weird because I was like this small town radio station armed security officer.

I guess. so he's pushing a lot of buttons jean simmons oh you think he's a shock job he could be shit i would think so actually oh man see how they get there jean simmons is like a total rag doll which is just ridiculous they just got it for one scene so he drives off the ragman does and he just he drives his car off a bridge into the water because i guess we're told by the way that water fucks with this demon we learn this the toilet scene his arm is stuck in a toilet uh when he attacks them like at the girl's house

or something he gets his arm stuck in a toilet and then she makes it worse by flushing it hilarious fucking hilarious that's my weakness a toilet

no power flush damn you ragman my suppository they run by a movie theater at one point and the marquis just says lunch of the dead

which I think that's a hilarious fake movie It might be, I mean, you know, who knows? They could have made lunch of the dead, but it sounded pretty fake. You know, it's what happens between like dawn and day. There's a lunch. Lunch of the dead. And only seven people I've seen.

Yeah, wouldn't that be in the day? Wouldn't that be in day? I don't know. Lunch. Yeah. Maybe it's a light lunch kind of a situation. What brunch of the dead? Oh, wait, that's millennials.

That's us millennials. Uh-oh. So he goes off. the bridge and the demon is vanquished and then she destroys this tape and you know congratulations everybody it's credits it's we've made it to

credits he's hilariously trying to make sure that the demon is in the car as he's driving to the bridge and he's just like talking shit about him the whole time and he's like oh yeah that fucking pussy Sammy oh my god I want to fucking loser that guy is right everybody oh yeah he's a real loser

yeah that guy totally sucks I'm glad he's dead and finally the dude like a years in the back seat. I think it's the toilet that gets him. He's like, nice fucking toilet flush idiot. He's like, hey. Oh, you're right. He brings up that toilet flush.

Hey, man, that would make me mad too. And Eddie gets the girl. Oh, they just start making out of that. Yeah, he was derogical. After he swims out of this canal. Yeah, how he survives this fucking Ted Kennedy

-esque car accident, man. It's ridiculous. He just swims up like he just jumped off the diving board in a public pool or I was killing a ghost oh where this demon came through my radio now we've got to sweep this all

under the ruggy sounds crazy it was a rock and roll demon as Senator Ragman are you are you to tell me that this this record was called song in the songs in the key of death

Is that right? And only one pressing. Only one. Here I got to play it backwards. I was thinking about that Wu-Tang album that that piece of shit Martin Schrelly had. You think there's some satanic shit on there?

No, it's just like that was the only copy of it that they made. Right. So maybe it's got magical properties. Did that guy have to give that back, though? What happened with that? I don't know for sure. I think he was trying to sell it to cover legal fees.

I hate that guy, so I don't care what happens to it. Well, I think to smite. him, Wutang should just release the whole thing. Well, they'd probably be bringing the law. Yeah. That's probably illegal. So was anybody else confused by this dude's like turn as a late night DJ like at the end of this movie?

Yeah, I guess he's, I guess he like, I guess he graduates and he takes over a nuke's role because he's missing a presumed dead. But no, I thought this just happened all right here. I don't know. Like they're making out at the radio station and then he sits down. That has to be months.

He said, then tell me that because other Why is they just cut to him sitting in jeans scenes? No, you had nothing to do with the making of this movie. Actually, I did. Oh, shit, really? Yeah, that's right. Wait, are you Gene Simmons? No, I'm a movie demon.

If you rewind this movie while watching it, I come out of the TV. Your first PA role when you were four years old. But it's weird because he just sits down and he's like, wake up sleepy heads. It's time to rock. Or like, whatever it is. It's wake up sleepy heads something. Look, cut to credits. It's how he's dealing with the trauma, okay?

He's just going to sit there and now he's going to play some records. Wait, do you think this was fake? He wasn't even at the radio station. He's just doing that in his house because he's a crazy person now. No, he's doing it. He's running the prisons radio station. Because this guy's going to jail. Because everyone, he's definitely like implicated in all these murders.

The satanic panic is about. They'll pin the whole thing on him. There's no one to prosecute. You're so right. Ragman would be fucking lit up like a. a bunch of oily rags. No, they'd keep him in jail, dude, until Joe Berlinger made three documentaries about him

and then he'd get released from prison. Wake up, jailbirds. Good morning, Attica. Here are the four songs I'm allowed to play. It's weird, though, because also I could have sworn and I rewound it and it still looked like it. He puts in the evil tape at the end. really and says wake up

no that's why I was I think it's one last scare kind of thing I think that's what it was but I was confused because he's supposed to be reformed at this point he just drove his car off a bridge why would he put that tape decked the devil got the girl there was an opening at the fucking radio station

his rapist villain is dead sure why would he unleash terror yet again why would he do that but that's what it's a very confusing ending if you're one of the eight people that have seen this movie. Please write it in in the mailbag. Yeah. You know someone has this fucking collector's DVD. Come on.

Come on. They weren't bothered by that shitty, heinous as hell cover art. God, that's terrible. So we hit credits. It's more of this fast way, which is just fake ACDC. This last song is fake ACDC like nobody's business. Yeah, and like it

makes no sense because all the other, not to be a metal nerd, but like all the other bands are like thrash. Like they're not really this kind of stomp, rock roll metal. Right. So I don't really get this. But whatever.

Did anybody else catch the Ozzy Stinger at the end? No, I missed it. Guess what? It's not worth watching. It's just another. I think there was a contractual thing where it was like, Ozzy has to be featured in this movie for 36 seconds. And they got the final cut.

And it was like, oh, Ozzy's only in this for 34 seconds. Let's just put a thing at the tail end. And it's still from that fake TV show that he's on where he just calls somebody a complete pervert and like that's the end of that's like the that's the last words this movie goes out on is oh that a complete pervert aren't you good at because

I'm kind of a pervert and I like metal music and this was a funny bit and then that's the last moments of it but like I you know what useless like little blips at the end of like useless stingers

like that you're just wasting everyone's time. Yeah, exactly. Well, you're also like just making me sit through this because like, oh, you're like, oh, it's a Stinger. Well, weren't you compelled by the music? Well, yeah. Oh, well, the fast way dude. But I turn it right off because they can listen to it. I'm a huge fast way fan. Ah, and that's that's trick or treat, which I think

was quite a treat. Would anybody recommend this movie? I wouldn't. I might be alone on this one, but I it's fun at parts it's a little too long I do this is sort of we always do one sort of complete trash 80s

horror movie and I'm glad we got this in it just didn't do it for me I do like some of the deaths though but not nearly enough saggy middle it does have a saggy metal I'm gonna a light recommend

I think it keeps going for the most part like yeah the buildup between like the area between a pervert Demon and Sammy Curry actually coming around and doing stuff sure that takes a while

but I enjoyed it I wasn't I was never too bored and yeah in the last like 40 minutes are really good yeah I would recommend it I thought it was fun I mean I really I had a good time watching it it's it's a movie

I hadn't seen before and yeah the time period kind of tickled me just right and you know I thought it was a decent way to spend an afternoon. I will say I do think like Al Gore probably puts this on to like get Tipper in the mood before like I mean because this it is just really maybe remember when you had that crusade to get parental advisory stickers on CDs. Think about how many demons you prevented Tipper. Give me a kiss. Hold on Tipper that those stickers are not biodegradable you have damned us to hell with your

crusade Tipper. You have broke this family. You guys, I want to tell you guys a secret. Not many people know this. Are you Al Gore? No, no. Listeners don't all, don't spread this around because this is, because it's Halloween and it's scary. You play an inconvenient truth backwards. Yeah.

Al Gore will come out. Oh, shit. Yeah. I just got a place at the table for Al Gore, though, unless he's a crazed sex demon. Hey. You never know. Got any good beer? No, I mean good beer.

Oh, that's too good. Much like this movie I too have a saggy middle So I related to it Sure No I had a lot of fun with this movie man It's trash but it's just like Fun enough trash

And I can't stress it enough Do not be fooled by that wretched DVD cover Fucking Johan Whoever put that together You should be fired sir That was terrible Also be careful there is a The aforementioned trick or treat

That's right There is a trick or treat as well. Oh, what's that about? That one is a real garbage shoot. And no, nobody should know anything about it, so I'm not going to say anything about it. Well, that's a piece of shit.

This is trick or treat or ragman. 1986, right? 1980s. Correct. There you go, everyone. Directed by Charles Martin Smith. Yes, that's the one. The actor. The man between, the man behind dolphin tail one and two.

Oh, man. Talk about a spooktacular. He also directed Airbus. At the first Airbud. And he was in The Untouchables, among other things. Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's a real actor. Quite the career.

Oh, well, that is the 2017 Halloween spooktacular ending on Trick or Treat, directed by Charles Martin Smith. We will also be releasing either the same day or maybe it's already out right now. Maybe I put it out on the 30th. So be sure to look out for if it's not out yet are rankings of the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise. Spooky. I think that's another reason why I was a little kind of. to this film just because I've been slogging through those sequels. Oh, boy, oh boy.

Next week, we are kicking in the high gear, man. Spooktacular. Gay turkey out. Into Snipesgiving. Dude, get the family together. Snipesgiving is happening. And what are we kicking it off with? Rising sun. Oh, rising sun. God, oh, that is him and Connor. Yes, it is. Oh, man. Get the fuck ready.

It's going to be fun. Kicking off Snipesgiving month next week, the month of November, including, by the way, that live Snipesgiving taping at the Bell House for BK Podfest man on November the 18th. Do not snooze on that one. So until next week with Rising Sun. I'm Andrew Juppin. Stephen Siddak. Chris Cabin. Eric Siska. Take it easy. Sometimes, that is better. Zombies have entered the building.

They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment with the Wickham Man. They're coming to get you, Barbara. He's sick for fucks using one too many movies. Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos.

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