We Hate Movies - S8 Ep327: Episode 327 - Drop Zone

Episode Date: November 28, 2017

On this week's episode, we sadly bring Snipesgiving to an end with an all-time Wesley fave, Drop Zone! How is Michael Jeter allowed to play with kittens in jail? What's with all the mid-air pranks? An...d look at Busey bite that hand! PLUS: Finally, some good news to report on SNN, the Skydiving News Network! Drop Zone stars Wesley Snipes, Gary Busey, Yancy Butler, Michael Jeter, Corin Nemec, Grace Zabriski, and Malcolm-Jamal Warner; directed by John Badham. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today on the program, we close out the blessed month of Snipes Giving with the best movie, I feel, in the lineup. It's Drop Zone. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Seda. Chris Cabin. Eric Siska. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always, this week on the program. Like I said, up top. It's Drop Zone from 1994, directed by John Battam.
Starting point is 00:00:45 1994, important to Mark, 1991. Point Break came out. I don't know if you can make any similarities here. Any similarities coming here to mind. It's that, but it's also like, skydiving was a thing at the time. It was a real... It was like rollerblading. Yes. Like rollerblading in the sky. It was pretty extreme.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And this was one of two skydiving movies that were released in 94. They were like rushing to the theaters. It was this and terminal velocity, both of which I saw in theaters. Really? Really? Yeah. Did you go to the X games? No, I did not.
Starting point is 00:01:20 My dad was a bit of a skydiver in the Midnight. Really? Yeah. Did you watch the X games? No. No. Do you skydive in the X games? I thought that was like bikes and shit.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I'm sure they do like an opening ceremony where somebody skydives. Like I have a hard time. I was trying to equate it with, you know, skydiving, rollerblading, all these kind of like. Extreme. Yeah, extreme, cool dude, 90 sports. We're wearing a neon windbreaker. Deal with it. The ludicrous wardrobe is really the pinpoint with all this.
Starting point is 00:01:51 No, the X games opening ceremony is like taking a mountain dew from like one side of the country to the other. Is that the idea? Oh, yes, I think so. And then it's poured it to a goblet. And then Tony Hawk chugs it. Yes, exactly. So this is a movie where Wesley Snipes plays a U.S. Marshal who gets wrapped up with a bunch of skydivers to take down Gary Busey and his skydiving criminal gang. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I fucking loved this. Yeah. It's so fucking ridiculous. But this movie is a ton of fun. Was this the first time you saw it? First time I'd seen it. I'd never seen Drop Zone. And I was, you know, it was one of those, there it is on the videos.
Starting point is 00:02:28 store shelf see you later drop zone this is my first snipes wow ever yeah this was the baby's first snipes yeah did you see it in theaters i did not i rented it was the day when like i actually was waiting for the day i'd seen the uh trailer oh one of my tapes and i was like i got to see that um and you know when the when it was coming out i was like yes and i was like one of the first ones there yeah drop zone i mean i can tell you right from the jump i knew that this movie was all for me This fucking electric guitar fart score. It doesn't even wait, man. It's over the Paramount logo.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's like fart grunge, man. It reminded me like lethal weapon guitar. Of course it does. This is Hans Zimmer. This is what he does. It's fucking cock rock. Like, it's all it is. Cock rock.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah, so. Now he's doing cockboows. Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, wow. Yeah, that's colon rock. Oh, no. those planes are going to bombos. That's what it sounds like inside of you when you're about to fart.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Oh. You discovered the wow. I was born in it. Wow. Great thing. So we opened up on a prison, right? Some of my favorite extra work in a really long time. You check out these like bemulleted beefcakes?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Holy shit, dude. Is this a prison for like professional wrestlers? Is this where they go to cool their heels? I think it was all pro wrestlers and then Mike Michael Jeter. Yeah, I mean, let's get into Michael Jeter in prison. This guy's not lasted a day and a half.
Starting point is 00:04:06 No. He weighs 101 pounds. And he looks like Dr. Wiley. He does look, oh, man. Had he lived, that would have been a man. That would have been great. Who would play Mega Man? We've got to this so many times.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I think the answer you come back to is Elijah Wood. He can still do it today. He could be like a Mega Man Knight returns. If he was having. a harder time with his career. There would be one of those like Mortal Kombat fan film things. It would hit
Starting point is 00:04:36 YouTube and it would be Elijah Wood playing Mega Man. Yeah, I mean, he's like so small he's 8 bit. Maybe 16. He's just made out of blocks. When you go up and you meet him, it's really, it's off putting it first. So Michael Jeter's in the yard
Starting point is 00:04:52 and all these dudes are going to like play basketball workout and he's running to feed these cats. Yeah, I know. Oh, man, like, you know what Michael Jr.? Again, you're not going to start lifting weights. No. Ask for protective custody, A number one. Yeah. Because he's in prison for
Starting point is 00:05:06 like computer crimes. Yeah. And I'm sorry, the birdman of Alcatraz was played by Burt fucking Lancaster. Humongous fucking block of cement. Yeah. I'm the cat man of this prison. No way, dude. Bert Lancaster was built like a brick shit house.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Michael Jeter's a fucking single plie square of toilet paper in comparison. But he's he's, he's, uh, protected on high by the Prince of Darkness, the DEA. I thought you meant Satan. No, he, so he, his crime is that he had been, uh, like, taking, he's been hacking and taking money from like, drug traders from China or some nonsense. Which is a victimless crime.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I mean, honestly. Who even, somebody says, like, when they're giving the rundown, they're like, it's like he lives inside the computer. Yeah. Which is just a great 1994ism. Because what they're saying there is like, this guy. He's such a whiz at the keyboard. It's like his home address is the computer.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Oh, nice. It's the internet, dude. Like, not, that's like, where he's got like a WW dot instead of a PO box. You know, we all get our physical mail. This guy's getting email. He's getting physical mail on the internet somehow. Have you heard about this?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Electronic mail? What is that? I mean, I get electricity out of the outlet. I bring this up a lot, but this is making me think of that episode of Muppet Babies where they go inside Scooter's computer. Oh, yeah? What is it?
Starting point is 00:06:29 What, did they find something with that hard drive? Oh, yeah, a scooter went down hard. Oh, no, baby friends. You've got to get on the computer and get it out of there. Come on, nanny's going to get here any second. You got to wipe that shit clean.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Got to eat all the data. This hard drive's nothing but Muppet babies. In odd positions. Anyway, I think it's like a Tron parody is what they sort of go for. Yeah, not so much like, you know, pornography. Yeah, just race.
Starting point is 00:06:58 over all of it. So he's, I mean, look, yeah, I mean, here's the thing, if you're Michael Jeter in prison, and if I, look, this, I feel like Michael Jeter and I would have very similar
Starting point is 00:07:06 paths in prison. And I would, and I do love cats, but I would pretend that I didn't love cats. If I was in prison. That's a good move. Some dude would be like, Hey, Steve,
Starting point is 00:07:17 look at those cats over there. What are you gonna fucking do about it? You'd be like, nothing. That was, well, that was my belief is that the DEA has been like replacing these cats
Starting point is 00:07:25 as they've been stomped to death by his enemies. on like a weekly basis. This is the thing, prison warden and whoever else, like prison groundskeeper, if there's like a little sewer drain where, like, cats are coming into the yard, you've got to close that shit out.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah. Who knows what those maniacs could be doing to those animals. Someone could be like feeding a cat a file and sending it through the tunnels, where then a, you know, a guy in prison could just like rip that cat open and take it out. I'm waiting for this cat to pass this nail file. Oh, no. Prison games could never do.
Starting point is 00:07:57 They would definitely do that. Absolutely. So you cut pretty quickly to Wesley Snipes, by the way. Like 10 seconds into the movie. I love it. And fucking Malcolm Jamal Warner, too. And he is on this tirade about women. Holy Mother of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. The Mongolian feminist, which comes up twice. It's your standard 90s feminist joke, Madlips feminist joke. It's like, oh, my ex-girlfriend who was, you know, say, whatever you want. Refrigerator salesman feminist. What was the, there was something recently.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Was it in a Snipesgiving episode? It was a punk vegan. Yes. Which is the three worst words. But those two are like 10 years apart, man. That shit has to be pulled about by now. Exactly. I feel you go on the right website, man.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Oh, man. You see this whatever, this like liberal feminist? Or this is always a great. Famin Nazis. Oh, the feminids. I'm gonna be over here Oh, the cat came back in the yard
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm gonna fuck it I'm gonna fuck the jailhouse cat We'll be back to fuck the cat on Infowars.com in a minute Michael Jeter, you watch You watch me do this And so they're driving down the road From the third act of seven by the way
Starting point is 00:09:20 I'm like where are they going There's no paved road Like they're driving to this jail But it's not a paved road They're driving under power lines. Oh my God, we got a box. So, yeah, they're going off on this. I'm only to stay away from here.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Wesley Snipes is the upper hand. Wesley Snipes always has the upper hand. Absolutely. FYI, if there's anything I've learned from this month of Snipes giving. So they're actually biological brothers who are also partners in the U.S. Marshals. Bad idea.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. Yeah. Also impressive, though, at the same time, being able to get on your brother's detail. That's pretty cool. That is insane. No, it doesn't make any sense. No, what would you ever?
Starting point is 00:09:57 allow this? Why would anybody allow this? Now both of them are compromised. You've compromised two good agents. Um, so yeah, so they're driving. He's complaining about his love life. Apparently Malcolm Jamal Warner's wife is like obsessed with setting him up with friends or something like that. And he's going on this thing about how he could never date somebody named Shenandra and how he likes them as like, he quote, nice, pretty and dull. Wow. Right. I think he's trying to say like he likes leading a quiet life, which is a nice contrast for when he's forced to skydive multiple times later in the film. Sure, and the
Starting point is 00:10:32 Mongolian feminist would never allow it. Also, talking about Oprah shit and like all that, but like, it's good that this is kind of the only banter, really, that we have to deal with. Well, Malcolm Jamal Warner doesn't have a lot of screen time in this movie, unfortunately. They go on a plane,
Starting point is 00:10:48 they're going to take Michael Jeter, uh, and he's into cousin. Well, basically, someone shockingly tries to shiv Michael Jeter in the yard. And the guy is like, oh, fuck, I got to get this dude move somewhere else because he's like this crucial witness or whatever. So Wesley Snipes and Malcolm Jamal Warner are tasked with taking him from Florida to Atlanta. So this is like a quick like puddle jumper flight. Yeah, sure. And then things go terribly wrong because Gary Busey and his gang of thieves
Starting point is 00:11:17 are aboard the plane. A posse comitus. Excuse me. What? That's the name of their gang. Oh, What does that mean? I don't know. But it's a silly, really... Is it like Latin or something? Yeah. It's like they are some weird gang. It's a division of Opus Day.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They sent a message to the pilots. From the Vatican. Anything you want your eminence. Oh, I live to serve. Let me kiss your ring. Oh, come here, Grandmaster. Oh, wait, that's the wrong guy. I'm also in the clan.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It's a busy schedule. it's so hard to hate and love at the same time oh yeah they they go in and uh it's gary bucey and a bunch of stuntmen pretty much oh and jagger and jagger jagger looks a lot like uh richard branson yes oh wow yeah it does
Starting point is 00:12:16 so they all just sort of like take various parts of the plane and they're like you know pretending passengers Gary Busey's like pretending to be a nervous flyer for some reason. It's like, don't even talk to the stewardess. No, dude, he's fucking playing it. Cool, man. He's in character. No, he needs to take his cocaine pills. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And so he's got to get ready for the big show. Which, and show is, you know, committing a terrorist attack. Clearly, I'm not a terrorist. I'm wearing glasses and I'm a real nervous, feller. Pardon me, ma'am. I'm not a terrorist. I'm clearly white. Don't mind to sweat. I was just showering. So they get in the air
Starting point is 00:12:55 And at some point The plane gets word that it's being taken over Which why would you do that? I think it's all part of this like ultra game That Gary Busey's playing Like he's like 10 steps ahead of everybody Kind of a thing for once Yeah so it's like oh we're being hijacked
Starting point is 00:13:11 So they bring Wesley steps to the front of the plane Like it's his birthday And he's six years old But there's this weird code that she has with him Because she's like Oh would you like glass of wine And he's like I only drink wine candlelight. She's like, I think we can make that happen, come
Starting point is 00:13:24 up front of the plane. I'm like, is you going to get a blowjob in the front of the plane? That's what he thinks. It's not a code. He thinks he's about to fuck this woman. I'm with Kavanaugh on this. There's no code, man. I feel like that's what the marshals gets. Like, all right, if you get into trouble, the stewardess will come up to you and say, Stewart is like, you're going to remember this
Starting point is 00:13:42 from your, from your academy days. Exactly. They're not at a park bench with Gene Hackman. It's like, come on. Well, you don't want to alarm anybody, so you need to have a code. And he looks, but no, He looks disappointed when she tells him. Dude, I think it's, I mean, listen. I'm looking disappointed when you find out that there's terrorists.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Oh, man. Well, the flight attendant could just as easily go up, lean over, and be like, I need you to come to the frontal plane with me right now. Don't make a big deal out of it. That's it. I'm definitely not blowing you. Don't get any ideas. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Hands to yourself. But so, yeah, he goes up with this guy's like, hey, listen to this message. We got U.S. Marshall. Chrysley Snipes is like, hmm, that's weird. And it's really, there's like no time for any information digestion or anything because it's like, this is going to happen to your plane right now.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And then like clockwork, Gary Busey whips out these guns that they have stowed away. And it's a mid-90s action movie and we are shooting people in the heart immediately. It is fantastic. God, what a breath of fresh air. It's shot in the heart. That's right. No metal detectors. So, you know, there's a big shootout going on.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Tons of flight attendants and passengers are murdered instantly. Wesley Snipes doesn't go to the back of the plane right at the first sound of gunfire. No. Knowing that Malcolm Jamal Warner is back there all by himself. Well, he's got Michael Jeter to protect him, so he's okay. Maybe he's his older brother, so he looks up to him. So it's just like, oh, well, you know, my older brother can handle that. He can do anything.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And his brother's been marked because. Because the little, Michael Jeter's been saying very loudly, you, U.S. Marshals, hey, U.S. Marshals. Yeah. Hey, could you help? Can I go see my cats? I miss my cats, U.S. Marshalls. That's the big thing.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So the cats are on the plane. Oh, right. The cats are in the belly of the plane. I don't think these cats are making it through it. No way. No, no. Also. A few line fatalities.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I wouldn't be too surprised if they were just lying to that man. Oh, yeah, that's also. Actually, no, there's a shot of the cat. like being loaded on, but they should have just lied to him. Because my God, these are like stray prison yards, sewer cats. What are you doing? Like, oh, can I bring my cats? No, motherfucker. You're in prison.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Come with me, please. And he's going to, he's going to go to another prison, right? Yeah. So, so you're taking prison cats to another prison? That could be a dog prison that you're going to, though. You never know. Yeah. You know, then it's just, that's like oil and vinegar, man. This is a movie, man. It's like
Starting point is 00:16:19 Homeward Bound or some shit. But it's prison animals. And those cats are They get sucked out to the side of the plane they have to find their way back
Starting point is 00:16:26 to Michael Jeter. Exactly. They got to you know they have to break into prison. No, you know what happens
Starting point is 00:16:32 when the when the when the, which does happen is the, the door opens and everything is a loud pop
Starting point is 00:16:37 you get five little cat heart attacks and that's the end of the little cats. Can I say oh sure posi
Starting point is 00:16:45 posi cometeas posimotoes um is the condo is the Common law or statute law authority of a county sheriff to conscribe any able-bodied man to assist him in keeping the peace or pursue an arrest or felon. Oh, it's like rounding up a posse.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. So it's a fancy way of saying I have a gang. It's old west. If I was in that meeting, hey, Gary, how about sky bandits? You know, we were like bandits of the sky. Cloudsurfers. I could make a jacket with sky bandits. Yeah, I'm not going to put all that Latin on a jacket
Starting point is 00:17:22 Because then everyone's asking me what it means That's drawing attention to us I'm not going to be able to walk through the store wearing that jacket So they blow The door off the back of the plane Which was a little weird Because I'm like just open it
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yes What it's an emergency door The latch is right there Why do you got to blow it off And now people are not badass if you just open We've got people getting sucked at the side of the plane Which is when I knew I was in for a good time when I see these passengers being sucked out all chair and all dude still
Starting point is 00:17:56 buckled in it's pretty awesome passenger 58 59 and 60 all get chucked right out it's fucking awesome and a couple of dudes definitely like hanging on for dear life before they go also great they still die doesn't matter I was and Michael Malcolm McGraw mal Warner is next to a little girl who kind of gets sucked at the plane and he saves her is that what happens correct Yes. And after being shot, by the way, he saves this girl, gets her back in. And then he stumbles out. And Wesley grabs him. But of course, we know where this is going. I thought his arm was going to get ripped off. I thought that's what we were going to do in this movie. It was his sleeve. Yeah. Which was actually his arm. I mean, that would have been kind of cool. I just don't see how that would happen. It's a lot of friction and force and what have you, right?
Starting point is 00:18:47 I guess so. I mean, you know what? As it turns out, I'm no physics professors. No, I'm not. Not yet. You're getting there, night school. So, yeah, he falls to his grim death, which is unfortunate. And then this was weird, though, the plane kind of just straightened out and landed totally.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Like, we don't get a landing. A normal landing. But actually, before that, Gary Busey has to... Oh, yes. They're trying to get Michael Jeter. They kidnap Michael Jeter, or it looks like kidnapping. And they're, like, putting him into a parachute, and they're going to do a tandem skydive.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I forgot. And for some reason, he's got handcuffs on. To get him out of the handcuffs, the only thing that they could do is for Gary Busey to bite his pinky finger off. But there's motivation for this, though. Oh, that's right. But this is what doesn't make any sense. I forgot to pack lunch.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I'm starving up here Oh, then I eat this airline food Finger food Shortman of finger sandwiches I take things super literally Hey Jagger I'm a little hungry I'm gonna head over to Jeter's for a snack Well the plane lands perfectly
Starting point is 00:19:55 But what we're told later And this is what makes no sense Is they keep talking about like going through the remains Of the passengers or whatever And they find Michael Jeter's face and they then presume that this dude is dead. Sure. Here was this one severed finger burnt to a crisp.
Starting point is 00:20:13 He must be completely dead. But if the plane landed fine, what is burnt to a crisp? Nothing. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't make any fucking sense. But the movie keeps saying like the remains, the remains, the remains. The only remains you would have are the people who get sucked out of the plane. Yes, the trickling of people, you know, that have been flying out for miles.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah. And it's going to take a couple weeks to find those people. Right. And plot point here. the little girl takes off the mask of Jagger sees his face and is now a witness. It'd be great if the rest of this movie
Starting point is 00:20:44 is kind of like that movie ravenous and it's like Gary Busey going crazy Oh, because he swallowed some of the flesh. Yes, I can tell you why that can't happen. Gary Bucce would eat everybody before they ever, like the whole fucking place. Wait, wait, wait, why can't that happen? That would be the perfect movie.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Gary Buczy. He's a skydiving cannibal, okay? He's a skydiving cannibal and he eats. people and he jumps out of airplanes. No, no, no. If Gary Busy was in ravenous, and that's like, what, the Civil War? Yeah, something like that. So he would eat everybody in the camp. Uh-huh. And then they'd be like, oh, no, he has the illness. He's a cannibal. You know, he's got that brain thing. And he'd be like, what are you guys talking about? I was just starving. He just ate them. Well, I just like that, now he's like a skydiving instructor and he's like eating the people that he's in tandem with all the time. Oh, you get a good, like, you're like 20,000 feet. You're like 20,000 feet. beat in the air or whatever, and you get a good, like, neck bite. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, skydiving vampire.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That's perfect. That's rights itself. And, like, you know, your shoe doesn't open, you turn into a bat. Oh, oh, got to activate my failsafe. Better turn into a bat. I like the idea of activating bat. They did it, man. They did.
Starting point is 00:22:00 According to folklore. So there is. the character with the greatest name in the movie. And this is coming from a film where there's a dude by the name of Scoop at one point. Swoop. Swoop, rather. No, but this dude, he's like the fucking head of the U.S. Marshal's and whatnot. He goes up to Wesley Snipes.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He's trying to get access to him and he's like, I don't know. I work for the U.S. Marshal's office. It's me. Tom McCracken. Oh, I didn't even get that. Fucking Tom McCracken. Come on, screenplay. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Gary Busty's name. Ty Montcrieff Oh yeah We were having a little bit of Yeah it's like Jesse something or other Like there's a lot of fun names And Wesley Snipes
Starting point is 00:22:42 Last name is what Nesip Nesip Nesip Which I learned from reading Roger Ebert's review Is an anagram of Snipes Yes
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yes You think he didn't like Whatever the name was in the script Maybe Did you make him Wesley Snipes I'm going to be calling him Wesley Snipes the entire movie
Starting point is 00:23:00 No matter of life He just plays Wesley Snipes Yeah exactly Like if he got to this scenario. Well, no, but it would be a thing, though, where in the credits, it's not as himself. It's Wesley Snipes as Wesley Snipes, like quotation marks. That would be pretty sweet, and I mean, I'm not going to ever remember the character name of, like, Jean-Claude Van Damme either. Like, this is, this is widespread. That's why he was really smart to have the Jackie Chan mysteries,
Starting point is 00:23:23 and he was just Jackie Chan. Adventures or whatever the fuck that cartoon was. I read that Snipes replaced Stephen Seagall, and that is a trade-up. Of course it is. times. Wow. Well, he had to drop out because they couldn't they couldn't take off. So they're like, well. See, this is why we need the rim shot again.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, exactly. What is, isn't Steven Zagall in terminal velocity? No, that's Charlie Sheen. Oh, executive decision is what I'm thinking of. Never mind. Terminal velocity is to stay two and a half. As is executive decision.
Starting point is 00:23:54 It's Charlie Sheen and Nastassia Kinski. Oh, right. Christopher McDonald's the heavy and James Gandalfini's in it for some reason. there's a great line where they get to like whatever like Florida Keys Swamp patio that Gary Busey's hideout is on
Starting point is 00:24:12 and Michael Jeter's complaining like oh you bit off my finger great Gary Busey line here he's like you got nine good ones fucking awesome but to Michael Jeter's point he's got Gary Busey here this dude's profession is a fucking computer hacker and he's like how am I supposed to work
Starting point is 00:24:30 that's my inter finger that's what I do to hit enter Really? I never thought about it, actually. I would have to look. What, really? The Enterkey? I don't remember what I do. I honestly, I sit down at a computer.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You get into a computer and black out. I kind of do. I get to a computer. I look up. I've done stuff. Sounds like a black mirror episode. It's true. I never really thought about it.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But I guess you're right. I'm sure you could work around that. You probably could. But like he's being. It's still annoying. Yeah. And Busey is nagging him this entire. movie. Every time he's trying to do
Starting point is 00:25:05 work, he's over on his ass. He keeps doing this. Well, because I think he's trying to put pressure on him for like the main event. Well, somehow while they were making this transfer while they were on the boat, they must have made Jeter hack into the airline
Starting point is 00:25:21 to, because they destroyed the manifest. Yeah. Yeah, he does make mention of like, oh yeah, you don't need all your fingers because you hack that airline thing with one hand. That was the manifest destiny. that you want that room shot you had a guess please you're just like hearing words and saying other things exactly that's my function you're going crazy I think so so so Wesley Snipes is being
Starting point is 00:25:47 blamed for the fiasco of the skies yeah him and his brother and they're basically putting a lot of it on his brother and obviously Wes is not having it because his brother died a hero shaming the dead that he caused everything or whatever like he he he's the one that, like, made that explosive go off. You know, I'm going to put a little bit of the onus on TSA on this one. Why the fuck are their guns on the plane? Yeah. That's never explained.
Starting point is 00:26:14 No. It's pre-9-11, dude. They actually handed you guns as you got on the plane. And it's not really that hidden away. It's behind a fucking tray table. Yes. I mean, that's pretty impressive. Although, don't they make mention of, like, they did have someone at the airline
Starting point is 00:26:27 assisting with that with the gun part? They killed some guy who was, like, playing. planting the bombs underneath the plane or something? The weird thing is they go on to like, what's something like, well, I think all these hijackers got off the place like, no, no, they're dead. Poppycock is like, what if they sky dive,
Starting point is 00:26:45 sky dove off the plane? It's like A, that's impossible because of the height and B, how can you get a parachute on an airplane? But they have like AR-15s on this airplane and no one has a problem with it, but the parachute is where everyone's like, no, no! Look, you have a rat to bring that rifle on an airplane,
Starting point is 00:27:01 but you got no rat to bring a parachute on an airplane goddam I feel like you should be able to bring a parachute on an airplane yeah just like you know BYOP man like just in case yeah I mean if it makes you feel comfortable on a fucking plane exactly is that what D.B. Cooper did
Starting point is 00:27:17 because remember that case yeah oh yeah dude that's the first skyjacking right in the world of tomorrow I don't remember if that shoot was already on the plane or he probably brought it from home BYOP man I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:27:32 So what I find amazing is when Tom McCracken, or whatever this dude's name is, when Agent McCracken goes to Wesley Snipes house to relieve him of his gun and badge, Wesley Snipes already has like a real in-depth investigation going on. Yeah. There's like file photos and like a fucking red string around all these tacks. But it's been like, what, 24 hours? He's very upset, you know. He's very upset.
Starting point is 00:28:00 He's grief working. Yeah. The funny thing is, I, the McCracken's like, you know the rules. I need your, it's a bit of skyjacking. I need your badge and gun. Any air tragedy, I need that badge and the gun. If this was something that had taken place on the high seas, I wouldn't even be here right now. But you train, iffy area, there'd be, there'd be a trial.
Starting point is 00:28:22 But this. So, oh, yeah. There's a really weird, I, I just hit me and it was really strange. there's a moment in this where like Busey has an offline and he's saying 911 oh yeah
Starting point is 00:28:38 but he says 9-11 yep he definitely does he says it to Michael Jeter it really like took me out of it for a minute I was like it's weird because what he's saying is like I'm just playing this for the big job 911 I think the context is something about like
Starting point is 00:28:52 well like 911 wouldn't have got to you in time anyway or whatever and he's like 9-11 ain't gonna help you now And I was like, wait, what? I fucking rewound it. And then I turned the subtitles on. I got hired by Osama bin Laden. Oh, no, Osama's really twisted my arm with this one.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It's going to be big. We're down here in Florida. I'm training these guys to fly. They don't know how to land. Yeah, we should have invaded Jake Busey after 9-11. Not Iraq. It would be more logical to invade Jake Bucy. The Bucy compound. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:26 So Wesley Snipes is officially off the case, which means he's fucking hard. core on the goddamn case because he's Wesley Snipes and he goes to like some military training facility yeah he's asking this you know sergeant or you know lieutenant or whatever about like ways in which like really pro military skydivers or peritruppers or whatever like do this shit and the guy says to him like uh there's a there's like a pro who's like level-headed and then there's like a crazy fucker dick brain oh dick brain right there's like the safe measured way to do it and then like the dick brain way to do it Wesley Snipes is like
Starting point is 00:30:03 give me the dick brain and that of course is Jagger yes Jagger and Jagger's ex-wife is played by Yancey Butler who is Witch Blade but ironically enough in in Gary Busey's team there is a woman that looks exactly like her for no reason yeah very true I spent half the movie confused I'm like she's playing both sides what's happening no exactly I didn't know her name until I I watched it with subtitles, and I was like, oh, that's her name. Okay. Well, but I'll tell you what I think the deal is here, because this other lady who's in the gang is,
Starting point is 00:30:40 what's his face's lady friend, Jagger's lady friend. He's got a type. He's got a type. I see. Because Jagger and Yancey Butler used to be a thing. It's very realistic. This movie is very realistic. 50 years ago, we did an episode on Steel,
Starting point is 00:30:54 and we were calling this lady, not Yancey Butler, the other one who's in Steel as a heavy, we were calling her Witchblade and I think in halfway through the episode we're like oh it's not Witchblade That's why it was exactly the same And it's the same movie Oh shit how about that
Starting point is 00:31:07 All these years later we course correct It's just like Vertigo It's just like action movie Vertigo That's what we're talking about We're gonna have to skydive Oh no, gonna look at this painting in a museum And then jump out of a plane Her hair
Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh my God her hair Oh man I want to punch this nun in the throat I'm going to wrap a lasso around that parachute. Bring the moon down for it, yeah. That would be his, if Jimmy Stewart was in Mortal Kombat, that would be his fatality. He would bring down the moon and crush the other guy. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Like a guillotine. Get ready to get fucked. Classic Hollywood Mortal Kombat. That needs to happen. Mortal combat. Carrie Grant's like shooting ice out of his hands. Looks like you need some cute. for that cocktail
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, obviously Launcini Jr. turns out to the wolfman, you know, that's all the... Ida Lupino has their fucking fans out. Errol Flynn gives you venereal diseases. Or he uses a sword.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Well, no, yeah, he does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. With his flesh sword. And then Peter Lorley takes off his mask and the reptile beneath. God, this is great.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Who would be Shao Khan of old Hollywood. Humphrey Bogart. No, Louis B. Mayor. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, Humphry Bogar would be Goro. I was going to say Mogi would be Johnny Cage, man. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:40 The swabest of the bunch. Okay. I like that. Yeah. Spencer Tracy has Baraka. Man, I'm going to cut you up now. David O. Selsnik has sang soon. Oh, yeah. He will
Starting point is 00:32:54 fucking steal your soul, man. Guaranteed. You're under contract. David O. Selsnick's fatalities. He fucking makes Alfred Hitchcock fall on top of you and smother you. The robots from the day the Earth stood still as
Starting point is 00:33:10 Cyrax. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. That's amazing. It's all fitting together. I hope you're listening Midway. There's a billion dollars. It's an expansion pack. It's him and like Robbie the robot or whatever the fuck was that forbidden planet. Or the maid bot
Starting point is 00:33:27 from Rocky 4. Oh shit. Oh, wait, no, do you mean, what was the robot from Lost in Space? Was that Robbie the Robot? Maybe, yeah. I don't think I'm confusing it with that Leslie Nielsen movie. Or Short Circuit, which John Batten actually directed. He definitely did. That's not classic Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Short Circuit's not classic Hollywood. Oh, don't you tell me that it's not classic. All right, here it is. The Golden Age. Oh, sure. All right. Well, maybe I'm off, though, because I was thinking maybe Orson Wells. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:33:53 He's classic. He's gorse. He weighs as much as a horse. I got it, by the way. the the robot for Metropolis. There it is. There it is. C3Pio.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, pretty much, right? Where are we in this movie? Oh, so Wesley Snipes, what's that, Kevin? Wesley Snipes goes to, he makes this girl cry. The girl who saw Jacker witness, but this is only important in the net, as far as the next scene goes. Because it cuts to Gary Busey, who gets a call from a corrupt. cop who is like following snipes most obvious corrupt cop by the way because it's like here are three detectives from the miami police department and it's like two suits and then a guy with a fucking
Starting point is 00:34:38 skullet that's tied into a ponytail which one is crooked just get straight out of fucking miami vice this guy oh my god this guy smells like cocaine it's like dan castanella if he was a drug dealer like you know what i mean like nope nope not trusting him yeah i'm not buying coke from that guy yes so this absolute piece of shit he calls Gary Busey and he's like oh they made Jagger
Starting point is 00:35:05 the little girl made Jagger and like Gary Busey says I'm impressed and the guy's like oh thank you very much and he's like not with you with Wesley Schnapps
Starting point is 00:35:14 because he questioned a witness that's just brilliant that's just insane while my mind's really blown this guy's doing his job holy shit that's the problem is Wesley and
Starting point is 00:35:24 and Ty Mon Kreef never really meet. They don't cross forwards until the end of the movie. Like it should be a game of cat and mask. We're two shots at the same coin you and I. Well yeah, he needs a phone call. He needs to like taunt him. I need a couple like John Malkovich calls, man.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Going again. Going again. Back to him. Why are you calling me on Christmas? I think it's because you got no one else to call. It's Leslie Snipes in a printing press. Sorry to tell you this Wesley's knops, your father's daddy fell down the stairs of Grand Central and broke his neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So, he meets the Auntie Butler, he goes to her skydiving ranch, and I've been to a few skydiving ranches. Oh, really? Are they called ranches? Yeah, well, the ones that I were, they were. They got horses, right? Yeah, the horses skydive, too. No, it's a ranch. And, you know, you go, and
Starting point is 00:36:22 you're bored all day because you're a little kid. I almost stepped on somebody's parachute once, and this big fat guy was going to cut my throat. It was literally like, it was a matter of life. You got in your face? Yeah, he did. It was a matter of life and death. Hey, kid, you never walk anywhere near someone's parachute.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Man, I mean, I get it, but man. So that's when you started sabotaging parachutes. So I put a bunch of spoons in there instead. Four spoons and a can opener. Boy, I'm fucked. You killed a lot of people that day. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Is that a head of broccoli? But this reminded me of it because it is like that kind of scuzzy skydiving ranch. Everybody's only talking about skydiving. Of course. And they're degenerates. They're degenerates. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:09 The ones that I dealt with. The ones that I dealt with. I'm sure there's like some nice skydiver. Oh, sure. But it doesn't shock me at all to hear that there's dirt bags in the sky jumping back down to the ground where the dirt is to be put in other bags. Circle of life. So he like hits it off with Yancey Butler and we're in a classic Wesley Snipes' 90s situation where this should be a romantic relationship and it's not because it's a white woman and everyone goes, ew, which makes no sense. If that's the case, then hire a black actress.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like we can't do either. We're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't. We can't have two black people as leads so we can't have like any kind of romantic tension. And yeah, it's fine to have an action heroine that's not like the main guy's girlfriend, but this movie like goes right up against it. It's right there. And it's like, you know, what are you waiting for?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah, exactly. Cowards! Do we think that they rewrote, like, because it was Seagall, and if you're trying to tell me, Sagall's not fucking the female lead in this movie, you are kidding me. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:14 No, he's going to get his fucking buttery paws all over this person. No, I feel it was a real conversation. They cut it. They must have cut it out of the movie. Like, there must have been like a really, sleazy sex scene that was cut out of the movie which is probably for the best but it's also uncomfortable when you're watching because oh man and you know what you're totally right because this is the exact kind of movie right like you rent with your uncle or you rent with
Starting point is 00:38:35 your dad or whatever and you're just sitting down and it's just a fucking skydiving crime movie and then out of nowhere there's fucking an ice cube on a tit yes and you're like wait oh what is happening and then all of a sudden it's just a fucking sex scene this is your fault for watching a Tony Scott movie with any male relative. But no, you're exactly right. It's one of those movies where it's like a left turn sex scene. And again, it's better that it
Starting point is 00:39:02 doesn't, but not really. I mean, especially the end of the movie, like, when he saves the day and he's like he's totally fine, but on a stretcher. Like, there's a moment. She's like right up next to him and like that's where it happens. She's really close. She's like, I'm so glad you made it. And he's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:18 yeah, yeah. No, we'll talk about this later once the credits start rolling. It's nice being your Plutonic friend. Thanks for everything. That is the problem, is that in lieu of that, what we have to deal with is like an awful truth situation where they're just kind of bickering at each other the whole time. I thought you meant that Michael Moore show. But you're talking about the classic Hollywood film, The Awful Truth. The old Crary movie.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Like, yeah, the whole time they're just bickering at each other because he's skydiving apparently is a very, very secretive club. the fucking, you know, the masons. Yeah, I don't understand. Like, I don't know, just pay the 180 bucks and go skydive. Now you're a skydiver. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there it is. Yep, that's it.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That's the thing. Jeez, I can't believe all these secret skydiving societies right here in my hometown of Flint, Michigan. I'm going to get to the bottom of this. I got a lot of weird language going on when he goes to the skydiving bar that is playing a skydiving TV show that apparently goes up every five. fucking day. It's like SNN, like skydiving news network. It's like, what? In other news today, we had some more people having some good jumps. And that's all for this evening, Kawabunga and good night. Here's a, today's daily montage of first time jumpers
Starting point is 00:40:39 jumping to Tom Petty's Free Fallen. Oh, we just got news. The president has been a shot. Even though we, it was not sky. Skydiving related. I hate to break in here. That was the one of the hardest days of my broadcasting career on SNN was when someone took a shot at Reagan, and I had to break the news to literally only the skydiving community about this tragic turn of events. Jumps will be suspended for 24 hours. We're now hearing that the shooter wasn't a skydiver either.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So that's good. There were conflicting reports that John Hinkley was an average skydiver. I'd like to correct that. That is a false statement. For the next week, we're going to be doing skydiving at half mass. And that would mean you fly the plane only half the way. It's incredibly dangerous, but also very respectful at the same time. Yes, the classic memorial jump of silence.
Starting point is 00:41:52 there will be exactly zero wahoos when leaving the plane. The plane will be painted all black. Yeah, dude, it's all black parachutes. That's funny. That also happens when they lose someone in the community. Yeah, yeah, as well. What's the rallying cry? I have it here.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Blue sky, black death. Oh, God, is that what they say? When Jagger bites it, they do a riot. of it. So Gary Busey is tipped off by that skullet dude that Jagger fucked it up. So they're doing a practice jump with Michael Jeter
Starting point is 00:42:32 and then they go up and Gary Buse is like, hey, let me come with you this time. And he like gets, he's like sitting on this dude's parachute like weighing him down. And the guy's like, oh come on Gary Busey stop and he's like, oh no, I think I'm comfy right here. And he somehow manages
Starting point is 00:42:48 to be so comfortable with your skydiving ability to do this. Exactly. This is amazing. And he's like, all right, I'm just going to twist my butt cheeks this way. And it's going to make you fly into this power grid. This dude just gets fucking cooked up, man. There's easier ways to kill somebody. And dispose of a body. Like, this guy's found by the cops immediately.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Immediately. Well, they also, they plant some coke on him. Oh, right. So they basically say that this dude was like, you know, running some drugs. By the way, what a fun way to be a drug runner. Absolutely. But let me take you back to the jump itself. where Jagger and this not Yancey Butler are, like, footsying.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. Like playing footsie's in the air. Yeah, dude, sky fucking. But, okay, so this is suggesting that they had some kind of relationship. Yeah, we're told flat out that that was his girlfriend. And you, like, so he killed, they make a big deal about people dying later in this movie. And, like, he killed him right in front of her. Well, because, listen.
Starting point is 00:43:50 She kind of knows. She's like, yeah, you know. Gary Busey's the boss. Yeah, of everything. And so when he lands, he's like, woo-hoo, that was fun. Now we have a skydiving team of four, and that's all right with me. I didn't say a Shar? I'm not going to say I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:07 No, guaranteed. It's like if you want in on this fucking heist, man, put up or shut up, and Jagger was fucking it up. So at the skydiving bar, Yancey Butler finds out that Jagger dies. She's very distraught. And, like, they work out this sort of tacit deal. wherein Wesley Snipes is like, I will sponsor your skydiving team. $15,000 for this scheme, by the way. To get into this like, which we'll get into this memorial jump that's happening in Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 00:44:35 which also, by the way, looks exactly like Florida. Huh. Yeah. How would that be? And you will get me close to Jaggers people and his team. Right now. And I guess it's like the getting close part is really the only excuse for Wesley Snipes to have anything to do with skydiving in this movie. Exactly. Like sponsor the team, fine. And then maybe you're like pretending to be the pilot or you're like Grace Zabriski's co-pilot. Right? Like she's like mama skydive team for this company or whatever. And she's just flying the plane. Maybe he's somebody's boyfriend that's just along for the ride. He's just there. This is Dale. Mm-hmm. He's in a relationship with with Dark Angel here. Not Dark Angel. Which play? Which play? Which play?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Speaking of Grace, it's interesting that in the Holy Month of Snipesgiving, we've gotten both Leland Palmer and Sarah Palmer. And Sarah Palmer. That's right. Love it. And then we got some Chris Malky. So that's at least three Twin Peaks actors. And may I bring you to the name of this beautiful plane, The Crazy Flamingo? Yes. And actually, Alan Alda is Judy. That's in every movie there's a connection. Yeah, I am this evil force that's going to take over everything. Damn the atomic bomb. This is the water. This is the well. Boy, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:46:01 It's not a big deal. So there's a fucking crazy-ass thing that happens. Wesley Snipes is like trying to talk to Yancey Butler about this whole thing. I want to mention this. We're ahead of it a little bit, but it's a fucking dick move in a half. He goes up in the plane to like continue talking to her. She's like teaching this skydiving class in what. whatnot and he's like sitting on the plane he's the last to go and not wearing a parachute he's
Starting point is 00:46:27 in the plane she fucking has some like mr burns esk like platform fall it's the drop zone and she i don't know she just like surprise drops wesley snipes out of this plane listen if that was me instant heart attack oh yeah like 17 of them instantly and it's crazy because he's falling and she's like ha ha ha and grace zabriski turns around very casually and is like will you go get him please and then this woman's like okay and just jumps out of this plane like at no point is anyone in this movie doing the amount of pants shitting that you would be required to do in these situations as we'll talk about later with um how skelly uh his graceful plummet to the ground martin schrelly everybody is immortal in this movie you mean swoop no skelly the young guy
Starting point is 00:47:19 Oh, oh. Parker Lewis. Yeah, Parker Lewis. Who can lose in this movie. He just barely doesn't lose, though. I mean, he's an immortal, like, clearly. That should have been a fucking wily coyote gag. Yeah, but you're right. Like, that should, and she goes, she gets him, and he's like, oh, you're crazy. And then, like, apparently in the original draft, or one of the original drafts, her character was a man.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And Wesley Snipes punches that man. Or Wesley Snipes character punches the man. And then when they got to filming it, they're like, oh, whoops, we. left this in and then like Yancy Butler's like no I want that to happen because that's like a funny thing to happen so sure enough once it's up she punches her right in the face and she's like you know yeah whatever it's kind of great
Starting point is 00:47:59 though because he punches her in the face she falls over and just starts laughing at oh yeah man pretty badass so we're still at this bar another amazing thing that happens right here is so they get this dude swoop involved and he's like this crazy
Starting point is 00:48:15 fucker that's constantly in pajamas it's like Ted because it's if he was a skydiver. This guy kind of looks like, what was the name of that dude from Dead Man on campus? Oh, Lockland Monroe. He kind of looks like
Starting point is 00:48:29 Lockland Monroe with like a D.B. Sweeney, the actor thing going on. D.B. Sweeney's the one I always think of with this guy. So they're like practicing for something and he messes with this dude. Oh man, I forget what it is.
Starting point is 00:48:42 There's something that happens where this guy like jumps on this dude while they're skydiving. So what happens is, basically, and this is the thing that kind of doesn't make a lot of sense. So, like, there's this big jump at D.C. and this is our team. It's Wesley Snipes, Yancey Butler, this kid played by Coronemic, the bald guy from Cliffhanger. Oh, God. Yeah, that's where that dude's from. Bob. I thought he was, like, a northern exposure or some shit.
Starting point is 00:49:13 He also might have double-dipped. He played the moose. and what's his face and this guy swoop and for some reason because Gary Buse's whole plan takes place on Memorial Day
Starting point is 00:49:28 he needs to get his team in there so like they're there and they're not keeping a low profile like they want to get on the jump but what they're also doing is fucking with people so like one of the guys fucks with coronemic
Starting point is 00:49:39 this blonde guy fucks with coronemic and opens his parachute on the ground and he goes flying and it's like humiliating so to get him back swoop is willing to risk everyone's life. And he does
Starting point is 00:49:51 what's called a gift rat. Yeah, there's like a dude on the ground, like one of the judges, and he's looking up, he goes, quote, looks like a gift wrap. Yeah, like this happens all of the time. All this lingo. It's like constant drug. Dude, we are getting a front row seat
Starting point is 00:50:06 to a world we know nothing about. Because there's two parachutes in every parachute of it. It's the regular one and the emergency one. So Swoop unhitches his regular one. in front of this guy and wraps him up which could kill him and swoop also like the reason you have that emergency
Starting point is 00:50:23 parachute swoop is just giving you a better chance at not dying so like to just get rid of that get rid of the regular one well dude I mean you have like no regard for your life if you're doing this every day yeah I guess so you're just living in that moment and in that movement that moment he was like hey man gift wrap time
Starting point is 00:50:39 ladies see what happens ladies and gentlemen I am so sorry to announce swoop has been killed we all notice Rup was a fan favorite amongst all of us here at SNN rest in peace
Starting point is 00:50:54 he tried to light his fart on fire which I believe is called a cannonball in midair and it just let his whole parachute up and he leaves his underwear to his cat we're all going to wear
Starting point is 00:51:08 pajamas to honor him and as would have to be the case with any of these skydiving junkies, he leaves behind no next of kids. But he was gnarly. Cowabunga and good night. So for revenge, Swoop goes to take a leak
Starting point is 00:51:33 and this dude from Gary Busey's gang barges into the bathroom and starts beating the shit out of him. Which is like, again, keep your note. You're about to pull a job, by the way, to steal all the DEA agents. identities. We're doing like a Mission Impossible kind of a thing. Can I tell you something I love about this? Sure. The villain, the big guy
Starting point is 00:51:51 who like wants all this information is like an old white banker dude. Yeah. He's just like an old asshole. Is it because he's like concerned about like heat coming down on him from the DEA? He clearly like launders the money or something to that effect. Like he's a big deal guy up there. It's like a
Starting point is 00:52:07 Netflix service that's very expensive because like I'll give you the list and every month it'll update for $2 million. murder season two oh you want stranger thing season three huh three million bucks
Starting point is 00:52:21 three million simoleans smackaroos so this dude so this other dude on the team that starts the fight looks like he could be a fucking terrorist from diehard
Starting point is 00:52:34 oh absolutely this guy's like seven feet tall blonde as the day is long and then yeah some fat guy and this other shorter guy and like Wesley Snipes comes in and we finally get some Wesley Stimes karateing
Starting point is 00:52:46 which is awesome oh my god he fucking lays waste to these dudes it's fantastic oh man he just beats and it's like a closed quarters bathroom fight it's fucking totally awesome it just it goes on forever and I'm loving it like the the blonde-haired guy and the guy who he kicks in the balls in front of the place
Starting point is 00:53:05 it's funny I kind of feel bad for like the 63 year old truck driver yeah that guy but he's also an ass So he's like, hey, motherfucker. Yeah, he's trying to do stuff. He is so awesome. They, he, Wesley, they destroy his stalls. Wesley Snipes throws these people through stalls.
Starting point is 00:53:23 This bathroom is out of order. Yeah. And not because the toilet was clogged, but because it was broken in half. I think he's fucking awesome. One of the big, uh, villains in Justified. Who, the fat guy? Yeah, the big fat guy with the beer. He's one of the big dealers.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I think you're right. He's like marijuana guy. He's the wee guy. Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, like, everything. Yes, yes, because he looks like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I mean, like, yeah, I need a scumbag. One-900 scumbag, dude, there it is. He can't get M.M. at Walsh this week. Oh, you, this movie couldn't afford M.M. at Walsh. Look, I wish ZZ Top could act. And then someone's like, well, you know, we got a guy. And we could clone him. He's kind of fatter than anybody in Zizi Top.
Starting point is 00:54:07 This dude is great, though, because you always get this dude. It's like a staple member of these kinds of gangs. It's the guy who doesn't participate in the thing, but he's like driving the car. He keeps the hideout clean. He's making eggs in the beginning. He totally is, dude, crying over them,
Starting point is 00:54:26 like George Sonsa. It's such a sad scene to make fun of, but George Sonsa crying over scrambled eggs is great. It's a cathartic moment in that film. He's sad. And so they beat the shit out of everybody, and then like everyone's, On to sort of Wesley Snipes at this point.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And the way that they still have to get back at this team, which doesn't make any sense. Well, it's like pranking the camp across the lake, dude. You need fucking revenge. So they're like, okay, let's cut open Yancey Butler's parachute. That way they won't be able to do the jump because she's the leader. Right. On one of like the qualifying jumps. And at this point, Coronemic is like the whiny like younger brother type for some reason.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah, he's like been a part of this. ranch the least amount of time kind of a thing. So she's like he's whining about something. She's like you know what dude? Why don't you take my parachute? He's like okay thanks and he takes it and whoops it doesn't open. Yeah so this dude like it's another crazy ass
Starting point is 00:55:26 like go get him. Yes and like swoop is just fucking full on conversations in the air which I don't know how you can necessarily. Yeah is that possible I don't think it's wild you would have to have supervision like actually be able to look at what people are like signaling and I know like it's
Starting point is 00:55:42 possible to do all this shit. So, you know, save that fucking tweet. But I just want, like, my surprise in all this is, like, Jesus Christ. Like, it's just fucking terrifying. And it's something that I love about this movie. All the Ariel shit is so awesome. It's pretty practical.
Starting point is 00:55:57 It's really, really great. And I'm just constantly marveling at it. Because we're cutting between, like, just green screen, people, like, in a parachute. Like, that's the conversational scenes. Right. But then, like, all the stunts are, like, real stunts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And those are the people actually falling. Yes. They don't look like they can talk. No, exactly. We should call your father right now to see. Get some input on this. Those shots of Gary Bussey, he looks like he's like getting into a lazy boy. Like he is comfortable in these aerial shots.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And you see him like he's pulling the different things to turn and whatnot. He's just like, left, right, left. Oh, this is so relaxing. What's this? I mean, a hot air balloon? So the scene takes place in a hot air balloon. Skydyev, what's that? Like a motorcycle for the sky?
Starting point is 00:56:48 But so, yeah. Cornemic Singh doesn't open. Swoop sort of saves him. No, he doesn't. He's dead. This kid is fucking dead. And maybe I'm mixing up with another skydiving movie.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I remember him, somebody like bounces. And I was like, oh, this is when corn mnemic like bounces. There is something where someone bounces. I remember seeing a bouncing corpse. Oh, what? Now that's ringing a bell.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah, what? And, like, they're all, like, dusty and, like, totally dead. And I thought that was this movie, but it's not. Oh, balls. It wouldn't be top gun. No, it might be terminal velocity, but I don't know if you guys saw that. I haven't seen terminal velocity, but I feel like I know what you're talking about. I forgot it as soon as I saw it.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah, I'm in that camp. But, like, so he lands in a lake and, like, Yancey Butler does. And she's actually good in this movie. She's not to say, actually, she's good as this movie. You know, she's very upset. She gives him CPR and saves its life. The kid should be dead. Let's get some stakes going.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Parker Lewis cannot lose. It's right there. Yeah, you're right. But he has to lose. I'm sorry. He has to lose here. Was that the series finale, actually? He lost when like the Coob fucking wrecked his car and Parker Lewis was killed.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Alec Baldwin took him out back and that was it. Everyone's number comes up. He plays chess with the devil. Oh, wow. There, yeah. I never saw that show. Am I missing anything? No. No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:58:09 It's like a fake Ferris Beeler. I think it's on Hulu now or something. Fuck, get out of here, really? I might tune in. Well, I mean, after I just told Eric not to bother with it, I'm like, yeah, I'll check it out again. Got some water programming to do. Well, there's always that, Chris Cabin. But, like, I feel like this smells of test audiences saying we don't like him dying.
Starting point is 00:58:32 We like him. Don't kill him. It's a likable enough character. Come on. Somebody has to die. I'm sorry, this needs a bigger body. They need to show the real world consequences of skis. skydiving that's not related to
Starting point is 00:58:43 DEA related heist cops and fucking security guards are getting gunned down in their throat slit by the dozen. Yeah. And hilariously in the middle of this like after one death, Gary Busey says, we can't kill a we can't kill a cop. They smell dead cops. We'll be run out of here.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And of course, he's killed like 20 of them by the end of this. Well yeah, because but to your point, yes, like that should happen. We do cut to, and also by the way, after this horrific accident and all the fucking horseplay that goes on, either A, both of these teams are disqualified or B, the whole jump is fucking... And the horse play, you mean, when they shove that horse out of the plane?
Starting point is 00:59:23 Because now they're skydiving with a horse. I don't know about this, Dustin Hoffman. It seems like a bad idea. And now we have an expose to get you skydivers back on the right track. We cannot shove horses out of airplanes, people. This just ends. Some happy news to report for once here on S&N. Coronymic will survive.
Starting point is 00:59:47 The horrendous fall he had earlier today at the trials, he will make it. It's incredibly unbelievable. He was the result of an oopsie daisy. That's what we call it when the parachutes don't open. He did not, he did survive, were rare survival from an oopsie daisy. It's also technically a whoopsie doodle. is when an immortal plummeted to earth
Starting point is 01:00:11 but we do yeah but so this jump should be canceled but it's not but we do get there's two break-ins the break-in at the end there's one in the middle that has some consequence well there's a fucked up thing where it's like
Starting point is 01:00:28 this dude who's hiring Gary Busey to do this stuff or rather Gary Busey's like you should give us this job motherfucker the handler the middle man and so the guy's like Gary Busey says Like, all right, we'll do this.
Starting point is 01:00:40 We'll do the first job for free. Oh, okay. So you can see how awesome it is. So this is where they like break into this. It's a, it's the DA's like evidence chamber or whatever. Because they're stealing a bunch of coke. But in the process, one man who's just innocently watching Jeopardy gets his throat. I know.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It's so sad. And then the guy working in like the fucking evidence locker is just shot through the heart by the not Yancey Butler lady. And then which one? Because they're getting all of Miami's undercover. agents or whatever through the same process. And it's amazing because Gary Vucey is like pacing around this office while Michael Jeter's doing
Starting point is 01:01:17 this hacking. He's like, can I help? Can I help? What can I do right now? But it's more than... Is my hot breath helping you out or not? You better hurry up. Better hurry up. We've got to get out of here. The Coke's going to spoil. You let me know when you need a capital letter and I'll press the shift.
Starting point is 01:01:36 My horse breath making your neck sweat or what? I got all these discs for Minesweeper. You did any of them? I brought all the computer stuff I know. I got it all right here, man. There's another kind of like, this is great, actually. There's another, like, much more minor break in, like, right before this, Yancey Butler
Starting point is 01:01:54 breaks in to, like, I guess it's like the FAA's investigation garage or something. The death parachute for Jagger. Right. And so she's checking it out or whatever. And Wesley Snipes, like, follows her into this garage. By the way, do you guys notice it? in the background, there's an abandoned truck rig that just has fucking
Starting point is 01:02:13 bud dry on it. Oh really? When you want Budweiser that somehow tastes even worse bud dry. What was it? Bud Ice had more alcohol and it was a liquor practically. What was Bud dry? I think it's the street trash stuff man.
Starting point is 01:02:29 They advertised it Bud Dry as having no aftertaste. So it's like Budweiser that doesn't taste like anything. It's it's Budweiser that you won't regret drinking because you won't have any that disgusting Budweiser aftertakes. As your life has become a void, why not drink a void with Bud Dry?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Keep up the best part of drinking. Getting dehydrated. You stare into the abyss and sometimes it stares back into you. That's Bud Dry. Hulu Hala, see you in oblivion. The only beer you can drink while playing. chess with the grim reaper Bud dry. The reaper
Starting point is 01:03:13 drinks it. If it's good enough for the reaper, it's good enough for me. So they this is when they find out that the parachute they were using had a special kind of nylon, which goes nowhere, but I just like the term smugglers rig. It's a smugglers rig, dude. It's another
Starting point is 01:03:29 bit of fucking goddamn skyjacker jargon. That sounds like a great Clapton song. And it's got to be like 12 minutes long. Oh, so much noodling. Yeah, no, that's more of a cream. That's a cream tune, actually.
Starting point is 01:03:44 If you ever fucking take a toke in the ninth minute of Smuggler's rig, man, you know when the fucking guitar really hits it? All right. Everybody's strapped in for the Smuggler's ring outro. Oh, my God, Baker's doing it with that solo.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Drum away, man. Drum me right into the Guy. Bommel that bass, brother. I got my smugglers Rick ready. I would love that song. Eight minutes. Six left to go. The intro's over. The song is a side and a half on the vinyl, baby. You gotta flip in the middle. Oh, man, that would be annoying. Flip in the middle. So yeah, it's the big night of the big jump and Yancy Butler is furious with Gary Busey for this
Starting point is 01:04:45 so she wants to kill him and the best way to do that is to take a gun on a plane and wait for it to take off and then confront everyone in the air. Sure. Question mark why. Because of the rush. Just because you're out for revenge doesn't
Starting point is 01:05:01 mean you can't also have the rush man. That's a good point. But the best part about it is my favorite line in the whole movie. It's my favorite Gary Bucy is of the movie is like she's she confronts everybody right when they're about to break a DA thing and Gary Busey he's like oh shit it's Jaggers girl and then he looks at the other the girl Cara and he's like this is his girlfriend now he meant nothing to you you meant nothing to him it's like oh it's great like awesome yeah which and then he just
Starting point is 01:05:30 throws out of playing because obviously you would there's an open door isn't this where she fakes killing herself yes oh that's right she does she perfectly jumps down enough to get like it's a helicopter yeah dude it is fucking horseshit i couldn't even believe it like i'm i'm watching this for the first time and i was like all right she's everyone's got a secret shoot in this movie yeah exactly what happened another secret shooting why wouldn't you have a secret shoot in this scenario i don't know i mean like i guess she's just like that confident that this this marty mcfly fake back to the future two suicide is gonna work i thought this was like a De Niro in 15 minutes
Starting point is 01:06:08 thing. I thought she just killed herself. Does he, he doesn't kill himself in that movie? I mean, just get you kill off like the second lead of the movie. He gets fucking stabbed repeatedly on film in that movie. Stay the fuck tuned for that. Do we see that in theaters together? Yes, we did. Yeah, that was a bad afternoon. Bad idea. She's holding on to this bar which seems impossible to do for anyone for more than like three seconds maybe. Like three, four tops, but like it's 20 minutes. Everybody jumps out
Starting point is 01:06:35 the thing she's gone and then Wesley Snipes is going after her with their team and that's when they see her and then like she sees them and they kind of do a reverse of the beginning of the movie where she jumps and then Wesley Snipes catches her Yeah and he has I mean this is a fucking crock
Starting point is 01:06:52 of shit because he's just like he sees her like she drops and he well no he goes first and he's like this is the only trick I know and I was like no please let swoop handle this Swoop and fucking maybe on Northern Exposure are both in the airplane. This is your third jump. Are you ready to save people?
Starting point is 01:07:13 Something tells me, dude, you have not logged enough hours for a fucking mid-air rescue. And Swoop has clearly already made his peace with God. Oh, years ago. Every day. Every day he's ready for it. Me and the Lord don't talk no more. And maybe it's the New York thing, but you're only a lot, you have to like jump like ten times tandem before you can even jump with like a, solo you're not just like
Starting point is 01:07:36 Is that right? Oh yeah man Well this is what Florida? Yeah they got freedom down Yeah Oh man in Florida Here's how it works dude Your first 10 jumps Your fucking tandem with a gator
Starting point is 01:07:46 Then after that You can jump solo But no gatorless jumps Before you hit the big one oh That's a good point Yeah you gotta get into double digits A Another gator related
Starting point is 01:08:02 Fatality is a sky You know, sometimes I wish a week could go by here on SNN without a gator-related tandem fatality. Seems like all I do these days on the airwaves is report grim death. And then cut over to GNN-Gator news, Derek. We got another one. Oh, yeah. Put it on the big board. Bertha ate him up.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Dude, if there was a fucking thing. And I don't even care if it was a puppet. If it was a Gator Puppet reporting news, I would finally be in for the 24-hour news cycle. Now 10 minutes with our Leonard Skinnered cover band the Freebirds. Just the footage of Gators. Which network is that on? So he does save her, and then they both land on top of the DEA building. Not only does you save her, but he also lands perfectly on top of the DEA building.
Starting point is 01:09:01 It's amazing. I mean, I think this guy, just with, like, the hours logged, he might be the greatest skydiver of all time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's the chosen one. He's the fucking neo of skydiving. He's going to need a few days in the hot tub after this, though, because he lands on this thing with his back and it's pebbles and how. He's going to be needing a few days in the hot tub because hopefully he's having fucking sexual intercourse with this woman afterwards. You never know. As long as it sits off screen, you can imagine whatever you like. Yeah, I choose to believe they run. rode off into the sunset together. It's nice. I like that, too. Just doing jumps every fucking ding-dong day, man.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Oh, romantic jumps, totally. Sky-fucking, the whole thing. You get married, you get married in the era. Oh, yeah. Wait, does anyone sky fucked, or is that just, you know, legends? I'm sure they have. I think I've seen footage of Sky Wedding type things.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Well, yeah. Well, you're sure they have, Chris? I mean, are we talking about, like, penetration? Like, that's got to be hard to learn up. The 80s in porno, it was. like underground New York 70s experimental they were doing everything what you got a fucking gimmick
Starting point is 01:10:06 we'll do it I mean if you were tandem jumping in the nude I feel like oh yeah okay now I see like you start out like you're already like interlocked yes you're not doing that mid-air you know what I'm saying two parachutes meeting up with each other you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:10:23 I've learned what you're saying I've gleaned and actually you might all of that might have to be in the suit you'd have to be in one singular Like a giant fucking trash bag. All right, some great news to report today in the world of skydiving adult entertainment. Two of our greatest legends were finally filmed successfully having intercourse inside a hefty force flex. This is skydiving after midnight.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Get ready for the best sky fucking. Dude, man, like the skydiving Messiah is like born in the sky, like conceived in the sky. That's, maybe that's Wesley Snipes's backstory. He doesn't even know it. Oh, right. Yeah, he's the chosen one. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 He's got a weird, yeah. He's got a weird birthmark on his back of a big parachute. He didn't never do with that, man. It's a fucking, it's a map to dry land, dude. It's a map to a city in the sky. Yes. Yes. So we're landing on this.
Starting point is 01:11:29 DEA building this is great there's way too much security guards watching television in this movie because the guy who gets his throat
Starting point is 01:11:37 cut is watching Jeopardy and they're asking for like the name of the actor who played the kid in like the Charlie Chaplin films
Starting point is 01:11:46 and this dude knows it and he's screaming at the TV throat cut then we get to these other dofaces who are watching
Starting point is 01:11:51 Star Trek but my favorite security officer is the woman who's like patrolling the halls sandwich lady dude she is
Starting point is 01:11:58 this This woman is like, they're talking about like, oh, someone's burning something in the kitchen. The alarm's going off. Are you cooking anything up there? And she's like, no, do you guys want to order a pizza? And then like two minutes after that, she's seen in like the security guard fucking commissary or something, building what is no doubt a Garfield sandwich. Yes, yeah, it's the biggest sandwich ever. She's got this huge sandwich and she's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Yeah, I'm off the floor 26. Also, by the way, the most offensive thing about that. this sequence is she takes out the mayonnaise to put it on the sandwich on this giant dogwood sandwich and she does not put it back in the fucking fridge. She leaves it out. She leaves mayo
Starting point is 01:12:42 sitting on the counter. Because dude how else you're going to know that some of this movie was brought to you by Hellman's? I guess so. It's just right dude it's fucking label facing the camera. Helmand's mayonnaise. Eric Eric, Eric. She put a whole pickle in a sandwich. She clearly does not care
Starting point is 01:12:59 about anything. Dude, this lady's a fucking anarchist. Gary Bees is like, let the sandwich go. It means nothing to you. This is my sandwich now. Some people
Starting point is 01:13:12 just want to see the condiments spoil. How long would you go just looking at eggs and oil mixed together? So there's a bunch of stuff that happens. Basically, I mean, like a fight. You're not wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:29 This woman gets, like, killed pretty cruelly. It's very cruel. It's very cruel. She's a lovable character. This sandwich, this cartoonish sandwich, man, I was so excited to watch her eat it. Yeah. She never got to eat that sandwich. Well, because, again, they have to hammer into that these are villainous people.
Starting point is 01:13:46 That you hate, not killing the fucking protagonist's brother didn't do it. Right. I mean, like, Gary Busey's whole thing is like, all right now. All right. Just tell him everything's fine. You're going to be okay. Just tell him everything's fine. And she does exactly what he says.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And he's like. all right that shit lights out like murders her yeah well she did see him yeah oh no he has this is the line he's like okay then you're dismissed yeah oh yeah and fucking shoots her right in the heart a lot of direct heart shots in this movie these skydivers are shooting to kill man it's beautiful um and then this is when wesley snipes the nancy butler get the action she uh yansley butler fights the other woman uh in an office it's like a fucking mirror fight from speaking of mortal combat sonya blade versus sonya blade mirror mad yeah uh and she kills her with a copier
Starting point is 01:14:33 no quip with the copier though there could have been something that would be like she's looking at the face looking at the copy and she's like wow i'm seeing double yeah like there could be that making copy oh it was 94 definitely Snyder cameo dude he's just there
Starting point is 01:14:49 comes out with his fucking goblin face and he's just like making copies and then fucking Gary Busey shoots him the heart yes i love it prefer that i like that i would like that to happen it's brutal though man she is smashing this woman's face on the fucking copy bed we i think the gag speaks for itself it does it is it is a gag we're making like a lot of the copies come out and it's just her fucked up face which is pretty funny i'll tell you this though this is deeply unbelievable wesley
Starting point is 01:15:18 snipes uh wins a fight by default no no no no this guy he like fights and he like they go down the stairs together and he just breaks his neck. Oh, right. This dude, like, it's an accidental kill. Yeah, and then like, these people... Yeah, that's a real letdown. These people who have been slaughtering people on the regular, they find one body of their own
Starting point is 01:15:41 and they go to pieces. They don't give a shit about, clearly. Wesley Snipes doesn't die hard. He puts him through... He uses his parachute and kind of puts him through the elevator. Oh, yes. He doesn't put ha-ha-ha, I'm a machine gun, but it's pretty close. It's just without
Starting point is 01:15:57 the little catchphrase on the t-shirt. Isn't there also like an Air Force One kill coming at? Yeah, the blonde-haired guy. Yeah, the dude who looks like he could be in Diehard. So like they're on the roof. This guy is fighting swoop and fucking Northern Exposure dude. Who's actually
Starting point is 01:16:15 in what? What's his actual credit? He's in cliffhanger. He's he gets shot. Just a shoulder shut though. They were clearly aiming for his heart though. It's like, it's like this dude's left shoulder and I was like you were going right for that bald man's heart
Starting point is 01:16:30 but the best part of it is is like swoop is willing to kill at this point you know what I mean like gotten into it man he's like a deputy at this point what's weird though is there's no scene where like swoop bald guy
Starting point is 01:16:46 grace Zabrisky they don't like freak out finding out that he's a cop you need that scene of like you're a walk oh no I am a T-E-A agent. Yeah, exactly. You need something like that.
Starting point is 01:17:02 They're just like, yeah, that's cool. Selkirk is a Korennemic's character's name. Or Selly. He's constantly called Selly. I think he landed the miracle on the Mohawk. But yeah, not the Hudson. Swoop is like, oh, you shot my friend in the shoulder, huh? Well, I'm going to put this noose around your neck and pull your fucking parachute.
Starting point is 01:17:20 It's quite great. It's an exact fucking get off my plane. Which was after this, though. Right. somebody saw this movie well this one's got the helicopter pad lights going on it so it's a real feature for the neighbors well this was i say that man's being hung by a plane well harrison four did twice the first time he you know the second shot was get off my plane which everybody knows but the first one was i'm gonna do what swoop did and drop zone crack you ever see my favorite movie's drop zone
Starting point is 01:17:55 President Punch saw it twice in theaters. Swoop, there it is. Oh, it was coming. I don't know how, but they found me. Man, at the start of this, it was like, welcome to we hate movies. And I was like, someone's going to fucking say swoop there. Thank you for making the prophecy come true.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It's happened. Now the world can end. I owe you five bucks. Maybe this guy just likes Nike. Anyone else think of that? Oh, that could be. Well, that would be swoosh. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Which, I mean, I'm not calling a grown adult swoosh. Now, and what is a swoop? Well, that's a move in skydiving where, you know, it starts off as a tandem jump. And then the prank part is you detach the person who doesn't have the shoot, you kick them in the back. That's not true. Fucking swoop, there it is, man. Well, they're calling him swoop. I thought it was like a Star Wars name, you know, like Dash Rendon.
Starting point is 01:18:53 It's like swoop, whatever. There might be There's swoop bikes In Star Wars, I think. What the fuck is a swoop gang? I think it's like There's, I think the Empire has speeder bikes and like
Starting point is 01:19:04 dirt bags have swoops. I don't know. I thought the swoop gang was like in attack of the clones when Anakin goes into that fucking Scuzz bar. Elon Slees-Bagano is there and he's got his fucking gang
Starting point is 01:19:21 of fucking swoops. Maybe. I'm totally making that up You know what? It's something Of course it is because it's Star Wars You just give something a stupid ass fucking name And place it somewhere and it sounds accurate I do know that the swoop bikes were designed
Starting point is 01:19:36 By a disgraced Jedi swoop tusk No they weren't I know Maybe Kuwaitu drive yards but not that Maybe it was Cypher Diaz man We finally figured out what that guy was up to So there's a great thing when Gary Busey
Starting point is 01:19:55 gets his fucking pause on this woman it's this hilarious like he grabs her and just screams in her face dude I think you could turn to stone if that happened if Gary Busey puts his arms around you and screams while looking
Starting point is 01:20:08 like directly in your eyes you'll turn to stone hey if she dies from shock which she would that's an easier murder beef come on you'd at least have an Anapakwin X-Men won white streak
Starting point is 01:20:20 after that moment you know what I mean you're not walking out they're completely unscathed. Exactly. And then Ian McKellen, we love what you did with your hair. Oh, man, that is the bitchiest line in that whole franchise. I fucking love it.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Oh, I love it. But, so this is the fight finally between Snipes and Bucy. They're going at it. We get your classic. We both have our guns out at each other. They're both empty. Both empty. You know what we also have, though, that's quite childish is the, like,
Starting point is 01:20:46 I'm on one side of the desk and you're on the other side. It's just a shitty computer console. let's fucking fire wildly into that thing. What are we doing? Well, then you would still just get clicks, clicks, clicks. But then, yeah, you would get it done with quicker, I guess. Well, I mean, I certainly know that neither of them are getting shot in the face. Like, that's not going to be how this movie ends.
Starting point is 01:21:06 No, it would be pretty cool. Do we, and do we all remember how Gary Busey gets in? Oh, of course, we'll get there. What, the fucking greatest death in the movie? In the whole cinema history. I mean, it's fucking awesome. They're just kind of fighting each other. It's great.
Starting point is 01:21:20 It's pretty, you know, they're really going at it. A lot of good choreography here, you know, even from Busey. It's like, it's a good, solid fucking dudeful crazy. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, but this is definitely post-accident, though. Yeah, he was on the lip. Like, this was close. I'm going.
Starting point is 01:21:38 And then, yeah, it's awesome. Wesley Snipes is just like, hey, fuck it. And just grabs him and jumps out this window. Oh, man. Pretty fucking great. Wesley immediately pulls his parachute. Another secret parachute, man. they're all over this picture.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And then he proceeds to, as he's going up in the air, dump Gary Busey's dummy. Because it's a grade A practical effects dummy fall. Yeah. Oh, it's fucking awesome. This is my only beef with this movie. Oh, dude, I, this fucking bumps it up half a star. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 01:22:13 You need Savini in here. This should look like Hellraiser's bathroom. Like this should be a real fucking blood bath. I'm sorry for not cleaning up. I didn't expect company. Well, you're right. It's all over the tiles. On the ceiling even.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Look, everyone, it's hell. You can't judge me for my bathroom in hell. Of course, my grout is stained blood red. Like 30 miles. You're supposed to enjoy going to the bathroom in hell. Get fucking with it. Shit, I'm sick of it. So Busey does go through the windshield of the...
Starting point is 01:22:50 He's like a tactical thing. Yes. And to Chris's credit, he's right. There should be like a blood mist or an explosion of gore or something. No explosion. He should explode. This dummy just goes through this windshield and it's like, well, that's it. The guy's still driving the truck.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And that's the guy from before the guy with the beard. It's the guy who's too fat for skydiving. Right. He's a guy. He's a master from justified. But it's a great shot because it's Bucy. It's partially dummy, but at one shot, it is Bucy like probably on a rig or something going in. And you see, you see the wheelman.
Starting point is 01:23:21 those teeth and he's like, ah! He did his fucking teeth first into this windshield. It's awesome. I mean, yeah, he should,
Starting point is 01:23:28 it should be like Jamie Fox and baby driver. Like, he should be like impaled by the teeth. Well, that's the thing that was like, I don't understand
Starting point is 01:23:34 the physics of this because it's like a down and then he stops in midair to go forward to this really good point. It makes no fucking sense. He had rocket boots, I think. It's as,
Starting point is 01:23:46 it's as hard as destroying the Death Star. Like, you have to like really get Bucy right in there. Well, it's like, it's like, the end of true lies when the terrorist is like stuck on that fucking rocket? He's going
Starting point is 01:23:55 straight at this truck. I don't you got launched from some shit. And just you should be throwing like fucking cans of paint out the side. He should have flown right into that fat guy. Yes. Yes. And that is just like it's like two people shaped water balloons just exploding. I'd love it.
Starting point is 01:24:15 And then so that's the end of it really. Wesley Snipes is hurt. He's on a gurney and then he sees Michael Jeter. come out in a DEA jacket pretending like he's a slippery guy and you think that he's going to get away but nah-uh swoop has been deputized there it is there it is indeed
Starting point is 01:24:33 he like jumps off a building nearby to tackle this guy I think swoop has like magical binocular vision I don't know how he even notices what the fuck's going on Batman or something yeah man yeah this dude being Batman the idea that like you never know
Starting point is 01:24:51 when someone's going to skydive in this movie like you know what I mean like you might right now we're having a nice conversation I can just jump out your window because I'm a skydive just right out dude and you secret shoots wow it's not that far man yeah I only live on the second floor you'll probably break a leg bit before you get any shoot out yeah and then it's just like this is where they
Starting point is 01:25:11 should be kissing they like they both have their arms around each other it's all just right there they're so close fucking terrible society's terrible yeah everything's terrible everything is terrible but so yeah it's just like we're going to fade out and once there's no visible human beings in the frame
Starting point is 01:25:30 then we can start making out but not before not a fucking frame before do you understand me says studio executive at paramount just keep laughing yeah keep holding each other but laughing you're laughing with your mouths yeah it was traumatizing but you're having
Starting point is 01:25:46 fucking fun now laugh laugh god damn you keep those lips separate And then we cut to SNN's headquarters And they're like Oh my God We finally have real news
Starting point is 01:25:57 To bring you I show oh wait what We've been canceled Shit On the one night We finally have something to broadcast Well there goes my pull it sir And with that
Starting point is 01:26:08 I'll leave you with just Fond wishes Safe travels in the sky And I'll see you on the other side Cuts off before he finishes Because it turns out this dude his whole network set up like the desk and everything
Starting point is 01:26:22 has just been inside a plane and he skydives out of the set with the desk and everything the whole thing dude he just fucking pushes the whole set out of a plane the end credits are weird because it's like a setting sun
Starting point is 01:26:38 and a woman doing like they have the thing it was at the end of hot shots like the other shots actually yeah you're right well it's like this I don't even know what you call them these like wind column things
Starting point is 01:26:49 There's a training montage where they get Wesley in one of these things And he's working on like balancing himself like while flying through a bunch of Oh yeah I mean that's to me this is the biggest selling point of the movie is there is a that whole scene A full Ted the wot the wet Sprocket song oh yeah the whole fucking cranked dude and uh it's just so it's that it's a woman doing like acrobatics in one of these wind tunnel things uh against a setting sun why not just some end footage of skydiving What the fuck? What is this up with this horse shit?
Starting point is 01:27:24 I don't need to watch this. No, he couldn't get the rights from SNN. Oh, you won't be able to afford what we're going to ask for. Are you kidding me? Tomorrow I have to interview Joseph McCarthy. Wait, what? From hell?
Starting point is 01:27:40 Well, you know, he's dead. Oh, right. Now he's on H&N. Oh, that's with Jeffrey Jones, right? part of this stay tuned to versed. And that's it. I actually do appreciate
Starting point is 01:27:53 how this is just a quick wrap up. It's just like, well, there's literally no more story that needs to be told. Roll those credits, which is, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:01 admirable. Sure. There's no fucking like, let me pull over and, you know, Sean Connery's last voiceover appearance or anything.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I thought, Chit Kohi. I thought you might get like one, like a, McCracken, like, going to that boat where the white guy, the white villain was. Oh, right. Maybe he gets him. Because I don't think that
Starting point is 01:28:25 dude gets taken down, does he? No, no, no. He's never seen again. Well, fucking, dude, corporate America lives to see another day. You know, it would be nice is it's, it's, it's, it's, is Malcolm and Jamala Warner's grave, and he's bringing his new girlfriend, Yancey Butler. He's like, look, I finally found the woman of my dreams, and yes, she's white America.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Can we fucking stand it? I'll really piss over some fucking shit. heads in this country, dude, she's pregnant. Oh, yes. Oh, man. John, I'm going to tell you what we did with your ending. We burned it. We clipped it off the end and we burned it. Now you get back in the studio and you shoot some skydivers for my credits.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Or I'm going to kill you. Did you see, by the way, who was the second unit director on all the skydiving? J.D. Caruso. DJ Caruso. Or DJ, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's hilarious because they almost have the same. John Badham and him have kind of the. exact same career. They both directed
Starting point is 01:29:19 Saturday Night Fever. And war games? Like middle, middle of the road, not good, not like, not great. Yeah, you know what I suspect it doesn't hold up, but when it came out, I thought was amazing was the DJ Caruso film Salton C. Oh, yeah. With Val Kilmer.
Starting point is 01:29:35 I bet that's just obnoxious to watch. I never liked it. I saw it once back when it came out of it. Kind of diddo, yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I'm sorry. No, I was just, it's my appeal. And this is why I'm actually kind of surprised that you didn't it but actually you're more versed in this than i am but like it is that like pulpy like neo noir kind of shit good kilmer too very good kilmer good kilmer from what i remembered but who
Starting point is 01:29:58 even knows but i do actually now that i'm thinking about it's definitely vincent donovria with a pig nose yeah that's fun and also adam goldberg is like fisting shit at some point yeah you guys are reminded me why i don't like uh disturbia probably stay tuned right also probably oh you know I mean, yeah, because why not? But I remember kind of liking that movie. I never saw it. I was like, oh, it's like rear window with the internet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:23 If I remember as being like insanely boring, but it's probably also ludicrous eagle eye. Oh, dude, me and the misses saw Eagle Eye in the fucking theater. Yeah, that's a real turd salad. Would anybody recommend this movie? Because that's the end of it. Oh, yeah, it's great. I really loved it.
Starting point is 01:30:42 It was super fun. It's, uh, yeah, it's a blast. It's a stone coal, Wesley Snipes Blast, he's doing karate, he's doing the thing, and yeah, it's right. Yeah, I mean, it's, it reminds me a lot of point break, but it's very good. I mean, this is, it is probably one of my favorite, uh, Snipes movies, actually, not the thing. Yeah, probably. But do you, do you think that due to like the, the content, actual quality of the film, or because this is your first Wesley Snipes experience? It's both.
Starting point is 01:31:07 I mean, I also like John, in general, I like John Battam as a director. I really like Sire Night Fever. Great movie. The first stakeout. I actually think is great. The first stakeout is that's a franchise. Well,
Starting point is 01:31:19 franchise two movies, but it's like one is grossly different than the other one. Yes. The first one's a real movie. The second one is a stay tuned. And I've seen it like 40 times.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Oh yeah. Easily. That was a repeat rental. I never owned it. Repeat rental. That's fucking sad. Oh, I just thought Emilio Estevez
Starting point is 01:31:36 was the living end. For a long time there. Well, think about what that, that plot of that movie is there on this stakeout where it's Richard Dreyfus and Rosia Donald
Starting point is 01:31:47 pretending to be parents to Emilio Estavit. Who's like 40. What about you there, Mr. Siska? I like it a lot. I like Drop Zone. Not another steak out. I like Drop Zone a lot.
Starting point is 01:32:00 It's strong recommend. And I think we said this last week that this would be the turkey of Snipesgiving. And I want to mention and I wanted to thank everyone who came out to our Blade Trinity show this past week.
Starting point is 01:32:14 or whenever it was. Yeah, I think that that's about right. If that episode comes out, that will be the leftover. Oh, right. Oh, bravo. That's your turkey sandwich the next day. I've been thinking about that all week. Glad you got it done.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah, I had a fucking blast with this movie. It was, I think, by far, the best Snipesgiving selection. Sure. I think this is a grade A hangover movie. because you wake up, man, you're getting like acid reflux, you're running to the bathroom, but then you give yourself a hot second because there's some beautiful skydiving footage.
Starting point is 01:32:51 That's what makes it because you don't have to follow the plot. You're sick. You're puking your fucking guts out. And you come back, you look at the TV, and you see that beautiful aerial footage. There it is. And some Toad the Wet Sprocket. Which you cannot forget about that.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Cannot go wrong with. Nope. Now, I do want to ask this question, though, because it's the end of Snipesgiving. Okay. And so we've been talking about like, you know, some like fun to boring and bad Wesley Snipes
Starting point is 01:33:17 movies can we go around and give like wow that's a solid ass Wesley Snipes movie sure I mean like yeah I'll take the easy one because I just rewatch it it's it holds up Blade 2 and like he never he never gets enough credit for the superhero boom that we're currently in
Starting point is 01:33:34 it was post Batman we had a lull we tried spawn that didn't work Blade came out and everyone was like oh superheroes are cool let's try and do X-Men, which is kind of very leathery jacket kind of your blade, and then we go on from that. Yeah, it's blade. I love Jungle Pever.
Starting point is 01:33:50 I think it's an incredible movie. And I also really like him in King of New York. Oh, he's a great. Oh, right. Oh, fuck, yeah. And Lawrence Fishburn's amazing. Lawrence Fishman is fucking insane in that movie. Yeah, his work with Spike Lee in general is just incredible.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Yeah. Mr. Siska. Demolition, man. Of course. Legitimately good movie. I was waiting for you. It's a classic. My pick has to be New Jack City, man.
Starting point is 01:34:16 He's fucking awesome in New Jack City. And that movie has one of the best openings ever because it's Wesley on the fucking Queensboro Bridge dangling a dude by his fucking ankle, just threatening to drop. And it's fucking great. And not to push us over the top here, but how can we save Wesley's career?
Starting point is 01:34:35 This is my question. Because it's unfair. You know what I mean? He's great. He's still in amazing shape. He paid his debt to society. He did. And so a lot of people in the world should have gone to jail for a lot less.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I guess the Taken formula, because, like, right now he's doing, like, these movies where he's, like, fighting aliens or some shit. Oh, you're talking about the recall from this year? I don't even know if it's out yet or not. I guess maybe direct to DVD. I have no idea. But, yeah, I know it's hard to know what to do with an aging action star, you know? So it's... That's what's...
Starting point is 01:35:10 Oh, go ahead. I mean, because he is... I mean, I said Spike Lee, but he's incredible in Chirac. I was going to say that. Yeah, that was a really good point. And I really thought that that was going to get him more attention. Like, I thought that alone would do it. But it hasn't really seemed to go.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I mean, he's doing alien movies. So I guess he's getting paid. So that's nice. Yeah, I guess that's fine. But, I mean, yeah, you know, just every time Spike announces he's going to make a new movie, see if he can get in there. Because that's a thing, like, aging action star, yes, he is. But he's also, like, proven to be more.
Starting point is 01:35:40 So I think the sky should be. the limit for Wesley Slaps. Dropsone joke here. But, like, you know what I mean? Like, he is a fucking great actor. And, you know, we've, you know what, guys, we've had a lot of fun this month on we hate movies. Yeah, we have. But he's fucking awesome. Well, you know, a move to do
Starting point is 01:35:56 is get him, and it's very on brand for me to say this, get him in, like, Black Panther 2 as the villain or something. Oh, shit, yeah. You know what I mean? That's actually a really good idea to get him involved in the Marvel world. Because way, A, Marvel owes their shit to him, because he, like I said earlier, he
Starting point is 01:36:12 revamped the superhero formula. B, he was supposed to play the Black Panther and the movie didn't go anywhere. Oh, was that right? Yeah, like way back when it was like, oh, you did Blade, do Black Panther tears? I'd love to. I'd just went nowhere. Does Black Panther, because I know in that Captain America movie, his father's murdered, but does he have any kind of like older dude relatives?
Starting point is 01:36:30 Well, his dad died in Civil War. Oh, that's what I just said. That's literally what I just said. Literally, I just stopped listening when you're talking. Oh, wow. Oh, thanks a bunch. No, no, I don't know. He's thinking about the mailbag. We're nowhere. Steve's like,
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