We Hate Movies - S9 Ep392: Episode 392 - Terminator 2: Judgment Day

Episode Date: December 4, 2018

This week on We Love Movies, the gang chats about one of the most beloved sci-fi/action films of all time, Terminator 2: Judgment Day! Is Robert Patrick's handsome visage the factory default for the T-1000? Who else was wanting more Danny Cooksey? And are S. Epatha Merkerson and Joe Morton's characters still hot and heavy? PLUS: Jesse Ventura lobbies Arnold for a very important supporting role! Terminator 2: Judgment Day stars Linda Hamilton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Robert Patrick, Edward Furlong, Joe Morton, S. Epatha Merkerson, and Danny Cooksey; directed by James Cameron. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the program, Bizarro Month kicks off as we're talking about films, well, films we love. It's Terminator 2 Judgment Day. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. C-1000. Eric Siska. And we love movies. Hello everyone, welcome to We Love Movies.

Thank you for tuning in as always. Andrew, do we, should we say goodbye to everyone? No, no. I'm not a fucking loser. Wow, Steve's getting really pale and gaunts. Right, yeah. That's weird. Oh, my God, his X-Men T-shirts on backwards.

Men-X. All of a son, it's a philanthropy t-shirt? Me love movies. You know, that's how that goes, right? Right. So we're doing something special here today, huh? Yeah, we're kicking off a month's worth of programming all about shit that we legitimately love. Yeah, it's the holiday season.

It's the holiday season. We figured, well, whoop-de-do, let's fucking do it. And we're celebrating our eight-year anniversary. And in that time, yes, you can get most medical degrees for sure. Like most, definitely could be a good lawyer at that point. Can we change a good lawyer by now? Can we change the name of the show to we waste our lives? You can teach you Yale with that kind of years on you.

Oh, yeah, eight years, dude. Forget about it. But instead, we're talking about movies we love. And it's a nice change of pace. It is, for sure. We're just going to be spending the month, just swimming in shit that we enjoy. watching, rewatching, have enjoyed since youth and so on.

Yeah. And, you know, just as a reminder, this is not just on the prime programming. This is kicking over into Patreon as well. This is kind of like a thank you to the patrons and also like a, hey, why don't you check out the Patreon? Kind of a month here. So patreon.com slash

we hate movies. We're going to be spreading the love theme over there as well. Talking about legitimate good shit like Batman the animated series. On your animation, that's the $3 tier. Star Wars A New Hope, which is your $5. That is a full

episode on Star Wars 97. It's mostly Eric crying and us talking. We recorded it already. No, he did. And then if you're on the $8 tier, you're also getting a full-length special broadcast of the Nexus

where we're talking about the Rath of Khan. And then a commentary where we're talking about what I think is the best Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. Sorry T2 Judgment Day. fucking commando commentary dude the commandmentary is going to be out awesome movie and i've not seen that movie yet i will see it on saturday when we're recorded it's very exciting it's going to be history you get to see steve being perverted by that violent fun film that's right and i just want to

quickly mention that the nexus with our star trek wrath of con it's going to be a full like we hate movies length episode it's because the nexus is usually about an hour i just want to reiterate that this one is going to be we'll see when we stop. I don't know. We might talk about it forever. Don't worry. It will be absurdly long and not short. Don't worry about that. Don't you worry at all. So with that in mind, patreon.com slash we hate movies. Now

at hand this week is the second Terminator film at Skeleton Hand. At Skeleton Hand. That's right from 91. Of course directed by James Cameron. Who else could have directed it? What's that? Who else could have directed it? Nobody. Jimmy Boy. Well, Mick G. Oh, God. Oh, shit.

shit. Which one was, he did the one with Christian Bale? He's a salvation. Ooh, turd Sal. Yeah, he's the, uh, the, uh, where you walking down just in the bloody lights? Oh, that's right. That was the light. Oh, that was from that movie. That's right. Yeah. No, that's good. No, that's good. Right in their lights. That's great. No, that's great. Who did

Genesis, anybody? Uh, I forget. Was it Nimbri. Oh, uh, Alan Taylor. He's a big Game of Thrones director. Oh. I thought was that guy that did that Honey Nut Crunch commercial. where... Honeynut crunch? Is that what he...

That's what honey steps on his balls. What is it? Honeynut crunch is the one where it's like a little Tasmanian devil-looking thing. Honeybunches of oats is what I'm thinking.

That's a real thing. I don't think... The honey-knut crunch doesn't exist. I think there's a crunch cereal and there's a non-crunch. No, you know what? I'm on it because honey-nut crunch sounded too real to be fake.

Well, the oats one you're talking about, isn't the logo for that just a hand pouring the cereal into a bowl? Yes. You are thinking of raisin brand. Oh, what the fuck

does this have to do with fucking Terminator? Well, no, the joke a mile ago.

A mile ago. There was a joke buried in that. Yeah. It was like that guy was a nobody director who directed

honey nut bunches of oats or honeynut crunches commercials. There's honeynut Cheerios. That's what I'm

thinking too. No, look, fucking check this shit out. Kellogg's, all right, it's not the

exact same thing. This is not an ad, by the way. No, but there's golden honey nut flavored Kellogg's Crunchy Nuts.

No one has ever heard of that. It's been around for ages. Yes, it has. It's fake cereal. Maybe it has. I haven't heard of it. We have to go back in time to stop it. We got to go back in time to do this episode correctly because it turned out.

Serial has become sentient. Oh, wow. Yes. We got to go back and kill the Cheerios B. Oh, that dude had it coming anyway, though. Here's a date, though. Speaking about going back in time. August the 29th, 1997.

Do you guys know what happened on that day? I have no idea. That's fucking judgment day. Oh, shit. Three billion dead. Very cool. Thank God social media didn't exist at that point where everyone on August 29th, 1999. Everybody was like, oh, my God, do you know what today is?

Are we all going to be turned into burned skeletons? I mean, that's a risk every day, for sure. All those fucking countdowns, though, man. Like, I think the next one coming up is Blade Runner, because that's 2019. Right, yeah. So you're going to have to suffer through that in a few months. Oh, but, guess what? In Salvation, which I rewatched for this podcast, God help me.

By the way, no one asked you to do that. No, I just felt like doing it. You know, you're not getting overtime for that, right? What? But we talked. No, okay. Every week Christmas is time card. What is that pile of time cards in the corner?

Why is that? Okay. That's what I related. the action of that movie is 2018 when John Connor is you know 30 odd years old so they got it right for that one yeah hellscape with robots everywhere

bunch of drones but I want to start this by asking you a very important question that we sometimes ask but I think this one people are like well no we already know the answer to that but did anyone see this in theaters no I did not I saw this in theaters I didn't I was a little boy seven yeah I think so. My parents were terrible. Very bad. Very bad parents. I also saw Pulp Fiction

in the theater. This is why Eric and me bonded so quickly is because my parents also brought me to this. Oh, wow. Really? Yes. I saw this a million times on tape because my sister ruled the television with an iron fist when we were growing up, but she had a crush on Eddie Furlong, so it worked out.

Oh. This movie always haunted my mind because when I saw it at 7, I kept on thinking about that chubby guy getting the pin through the eye or whatever. Oh, the sword. Hospital security guard? Him coming up from the floor is something that I remembered very vividly. Exactly. That whole scene

was terrified. Well, that floor thing just reminds you of that Elvis Costello's Spike album. Remember that album cover? No black and white checkered face? The T1,000 is a walking album cover, to be honest. That's true. Of different kinds of bands, too, at different points in his, like, configuration. Exactly. He's a centean Peter Gabriel video.

I mean, like, not that you need to know this. Oh, no, he's taken the form of the sledgehammer. Oh, no, he's kissing the frog. That's Terminator Genesis. It all makes sense, Chris. It all makes sense. What were you saying, Steve? No, not that you needed to know this, because you've probably seen this movie before, but this is the sequel to the massive hit Terminator seven years later, wherein Arnold Schwarzenegger is actually a good terminator this time,

hunting down a bad Terminator named the T-1,000. played by Robert Patrick. That's right. And yeah, that's the movie. Eddie Furlong, of course, is the young John Connor. Shut up, Terminator. Introducing Edward Furlong. That's right.

Might as well have been saying goodbye at the exact same time. Do they credit Donkey Lips up top? Fucking Budnick, motherfucker. Yeah, dude, donkey Lips cannot be fun. Danny Cooksey is like sixth build in this movie. He's, yeah, his agent had some money. Is that his name? Danny Cuxie, yeah, to answer your question, Kevin,

he's up front in those other credits. Absolutely, he is. Well, I mean, there's not a lot of speaking part. Well, you know, you got your Joe Morton. The great Joe Morton. Oh, absolutely. And Esopath of Merck since lower and she's got more presents. Well, yeah.

Than Joe Morton? No, then fucking Budnick. I have more presents than Budnick. That's your autobiography. Well, now that you cut off your ponytail. Do that model is to beat the band. So, yeah, we start very coolly. You know, a lot of a...

This movie has a little bit of trouble starting, I kind of feel. It's a little... Sort of like a We A Movies podcast. I mean, we love movies. Yeah, it starts talking about cereal for no reason for nine minutes. No, no. But it starts like, you know,

you got your opening... What's her? Linda Hamilton. Linda Hamilton, who's amazing in this movie. She's better in this movie than she's in the other one. I agree with that. I mean, she's fantastic.

I actually think literally this movie is not as, not nearly as good. And I don't know who else you would put in this movie other than Linda Hamilton in this exact mode. Sigourney's the only other one

and she's already got hers Yeah You'd just be like what are you doing Then you'd just be like Bruce Willising her But it's different because she's like so much Like nastier in the right way Like she's pissed off She got PTSD

She's like Yeah it's a great contrast From her role in the first film When she was a little more I guess being just thrust into the action Now she's all hard In the first movie And also her hair is not that great

But it's 1984 What are you going to do? She's got these awesome fucking combat bangs dude in this movie look out. But we open on Skull Beach, my favorite place in the world. I love Skull Beach. Here's a question

I had about Skull Beach because one of the first shots of Skull Beach. First of all, actually put a pin in Skull Beach for two seconds because... That's my favorite Mario Kart level, by the way. Woo! Spring Brack of Skull Beach! No, I'm curious

because there's sort of like slightly different versions of this movie. Yeah, that's a good point. So what were we all watching? Because I believe there's the version where I had, which I don't think is a theatrical, where you see when they're in Mexico and she

has the dream of judgment day? Oh no, that's in that. That's in all of them? I believe. What is cut out of that? The big one, the Michael Bean fantasy in the asylum is a big one. Oh, okay. Which I didn't have in what I was watching. So I must have

been watching theatrical. There's also a moment where like he says like he's a learning computer or whatever but then like in one version it extends that like he had like a restriction on the chip so then Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlonger like operating on his head in the gas station. I've seen that version once too. I watched theatrical essay. By the way I had to watch the

I had to buy it off Amazon because my fucking Blu-ray couldn't connect to the internet. Are you serious? It was like Skynet won't connect to the internet. Wait a minute. Yeah. Did you never press cancel? I did press cancel multiple times. Okay, because I was really worried there for a moment. I did press cancel and I had to fucking buy the fucking thing.

That's insane. Skynet took over my fucking Blu-Rae player and wouldn't let me play. Because they know people love this movie. Oh, yeah, Chubby's going to buy another copy. Yeah, totally. Sabotage it. Because, like, I need the internet to watch a fucking 30-year-old movie with 10-year-old fucking extra features on it.

That's insanely stupid. I hated that whole, like, Blue Link shit that they started up. I will say I watched this on my fucking 4K Blu-ray, and my God, is it beautiful. I mean, even on the Amazon, the high-diff, whatever, it was, yeah. Oh, Bezos didn't cheap out on the high-deaf for T-2. Awesome. Water it down. All right, so sorry, Skull Beach.

Yeah, speaking of Jeff Bezos, we open on Skull Beach, where the workers have no rights is a bunch of skulls. This is Long Island City, 2019. Take it over everything. And yeah, we get to see some walking around Terminators. They're shooting pink rifles at each other. It's awesome. The first thing you see, though, and this was my question about Skull Beach,

do you think there are dudes or ladies out there that have both like a combination of a robot fetish and a foot fetish? Definitely. If so, this first shot at Skull Beach is getting people fucking ruining chairs left and right. What are those? It is just this Terminator gam

just crunches down. down on this skull. And I guess also Crush fetishists are involved. Yeah, totally, everybody's getting involved. The trifecting, dude, someone is blowing loads out there watching this robot foot come down. Rewinded, fast forward, rewind it. Jim, Jim, Jim, could you have it?

Curl one of the feet? The tutzies. I need the tootsie. Oh, ew, tutsies, Kevin, shut up, ew. I think what my computer, what my Blurray player was trying to do is connect to the new feature that has a high heel on that show. Oh, of course. That's the word. They gave the Terminator a

Jessica Rabbit but he's crushing skulls which is gorgeous and sexy as we all know. They're like shooting down helicopters in this scene the noises are great the thing is we've never got this movie

this is the movie I want it I know that's what Salvation is sort of supposed to be but it's not but you're absolutely right this is what needs to have been a film just give me John Connor commanding shit you can make the climax at the end he has to get Reese to the fucking

time tunnel or whatever sure And it would be incredible, just shooting skeleton terminators. Follow that aesthetic, though. Like, you don't know what? Like, there's a bunch of terminators. You hear the noises. You kind of, the swooping things and all sorts of.

Those flying ones? Are they alive? Do they have personalities? Yeah, are they talking to people? What's going on with those? They're in salvation, right? A little bit those swoopy guys? There's a bunch of flying ones.

Yeah, yeah. But they have like Matrix Sentinels. Yeah, they got a bunch of shit. See, now that has been informed by other sci-fi that shouldn't have been And it was like 2000, whatever, it was old beige and nonsense. All of it is warfare based, but you never get like, I want the beginning of save a private Ryan, but with Terminator. That's kind of where I'm, and like, you can't get that because everybody's like, no,

there has to be story. No, there doesn't. Just shoot people and like make the horror of war the whole thing. You know, John Connor was supposed to be like a general, right? So he's just in a tent down on Skull Beach, sending everyone else to die, just like sip and tea and having crumpets there. No, I'm sorry. We're going back to Skull Beach.

There's no running from Skull Beach. Oh, cool. Awesome. 1997. Tom Hardy's landing on Skull Beach in that plane and it's just like bop it up and down nonstop. I mean, we think that President Trump is bad. President Wireless Router who was running this whole fucking world at this point. He is just a hell mouth.

Yeah, he's a bad dude. He's a horrible public speaker, too. Oh, fuck, I'm plucking. God, he keeps having these rallies. Oh, fuck, his lights blinking again. Shit. What is the deal speaking of this timeline? You guys get a good look at this John Connor.

That's what I want. He doesn't, A, he looks like Matt McCoy, a.k.a. Lloyd Braun a little bit. He does. I was going to say, he looks awesome. He looks like the model that they based a drawing of a Mortal Kombat character. Yeah, like Stryker's brother

or something. When Matt McCoy clearly made it with Frank Grillo, this man came out. Yes. Made it. Wow. That I would like to see. Honestly, Frank Grillo in, like, a real down and dirty Terminator War Skull. Frank Grillo and Terminator 10

Skull Beach, that's the movie I want. I could watch that. I could get behind that movie. By way, I haven't been hearing much about your legislation lately. This is a huge problem here. Terminator 2. Terminator 2, and then Salvation and then Terminator 3.

Do they say 3? Yes. Three rise of the machines. Then salvation. I don't recognize that at all, Senator. And Genesis. And then Genesis. Yeah, it should be T4, Salvation, T5, Genesis.

And now the new one is thrown all this out except for T2, I guess. I read conflicting reports on this. I read that three might be included in the canon, but I really hope. Nick Stahl's like, please, please, please. Talk to the Honda. We did an episode.

on that. We did, like a thousand years ago. Holy Toledo. Yeah. So, you know, he said, then we cut back to, it's all like Linda Hamilton narration over this thing, and it's a great set piece. And we cut to Arnie. You getting all naked, and in a

cool sphere thing, which I love the sphere. I get another cheeky situation. Here's my question. It goes to, this question is for both Mr. Schwarzenegger and Mr. Patrick. Are we talking like sack cradles? because how are we not hanging brain in this movie?

I'm seeing something with Patrick. Really? Dude, I looked it over in 4K cabin. There's not a fucking tube to be found. I saw something that could only be a penis. No way. There's no fucking dick. There's some sidecock in there?

Well, maybe it's popping out like a little bit at the end. Did you go frame by frame? Get out some binoculars. It's like peeking out to see where the sniper is. Oh, you're right around the corner. Like his fucking dick holds a little mirror around the corner. Well, Ken, he's a liquid. metal air he can do what he wants turn into a mirror i mean just like the silver surfers the question is

do they have dicks you know like absolutely why would they have dicks they have to they don't want to be found out dude yeah you know they're from like the military future or everyone is like stripped nude and de-loused got it okay and it's true it's not like they're going to separate their war bots from their sex bots you know you just do a whole line exactly they're just pumping flesh throughout that factory it would actually cost money to take the dicks off And they were all, you'll know this. They were all designed by Wanko. Okay.

We go to Arnold is naked. Beautiful Arnold. It's awesome. It's amazing. Goes into a road house to get some clothes. He fucks these bikers up good. This is awesome. I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.

I love the fucking cigar getting put out on the chest. Oh. There's like that weird Nazi knife that goes in his arm. It's a Nazi knife? I don't know. Look a little bit like a Nazi knife. Knife's politics is terrible. Well, yeah, he's picking on what looks like the brother of the father from the witch.

And, like, he, how does he match this older dude's clothes? It doesn't make any sense. He's humongous. That's the thing is, like, does the machine, when it's doing that, is like, it's going to be a little tight, but it'll work kind of a thing. Like, it's a little... I've detected the shirt is spandex. It will expand to my physique. I need your shirt, your pants.

I need your boots. Listen, no, no. Your motorcycle is okay. Don't go, don't go anywhere. I want your sunglasses. Does anyone wear an 11? Listen, he's a fucking robot and he doesn't need to be comfortable. Okay.

He can wear tight clothes. In this case, I would like to see the fat people. Please show me the fat people. I think, though, it just can't go the other way. He can't be wearing, like, baggy clothes because he's got to be, like, running around doing stuff. He's walking around in, like, Kevin Smith Jorts. This was the best that I could find while this is embarrassing. I landed in a comic book convention.

great. I'll get that spawn t-shirt from that enormous guy. Oh no, look at these jorts. Now I have to go on this podcast and talk about eating my wife's ass. Oh, no belt. Thanks, Kevin. No, I'll

say to you. I have to say, I am fucking... Ten years later, she still pones my car. I am, and granted, you had a heart attack, which is what caused it, which was a bummer, but I am so impressed by Kevin Smith and the fucking weight loss. Have you seen this motherfucker? It looks great. It's amazing. It looks better than they ever has.

He's like a T-1,000, this guy, shape-shifted. He'd definitely wearing a fucking ball cradle, too. I'm telling you, I don't know how they're not hanging brain. You have to be fucking tucking that? Maybe there's so... It's like a little half bikini or something. Maybe it's cold out. Oh, yeah. Maybe it's like gone inside. Or they're so hard that like it's like suspending the balls upwards, you know, like the whole sack and cradle lifts with the mast of the ship. I love the guy that gets, the main guy.

He gets thrown on the stove. Oh, that's a tough thing. It's really like a wily coyote thing. Like, he lands on the stove. Like, this is fine. Oh, no, it's hot. No, it's hot. No, it's hot.

And can I tell you, I burnt my hand on like an open stove like that one time. And you do take, it was a weird, like, it was in a room that was like. A terminator through you. No, it was like we were in like a cabin type situation. So you're putting like wood in it or whatever. And it was heating the house kind of thing. and it was located in the kitchen of this cabin and I just, like, everybody was talking in the kitchen

and I went to, like, lean in the conversation, and I leaned on this fucking stove, and it was like, ah. And it was definitely like a second or two before I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I had this fucking, like, green burn on my hand. Oh, wow. So I totally see where this biker's coming from. And he takes the stuff, and he gets all dressed

in the cool motorbike outfit. This other fat guy's like, I can't let you take that man's motorcycle, son. Yeah, oh, this dude's awesome. He looks like the fat guy who's the super unfriends. Yeah, yes. Yeah, so you can strip a dude naked, beat him, humiliate him, stab him. But taking his ride. Yeah, that's where the lines were.

Well, because the hog is life, dude. The hog is life. I guess. They all have that tattoo. Hog is life. But he takes a shotgun from him. It takes his sunglasses on. And this is a big D-minus for me.

Uh-oh. You cannot play. bad to the bone of this part. No, you have to find any other song. Fighting back on this and I'll tell you why. What? I'm joining your caucus, sir. This musical cue sets the tone.

This lets you know this isn't the 19- This isn't the 1984 Terminator. There's a new tone to this and it's slightly ridiculous, but bear with us. We want you to have fun. We're having fun here. That is exactly what that establishes. Chris, are you going to break any ties here? I'm with Steve.

All right, all right. Fuck it. I mean, it's just, thanks Chris. Wow, what insight. If you did like a chilling score there, I feel like it just feel off compared to all the comedy element. Give some Van Morrison in there or something. You're Van Morrison.

She was a brown-eyed girl. I'm going to take this motorbike into the mystic. It's a beautiful night for the moon. Yeah. Heardy, gertie, man. Oh, no, that's Donovan. Oops. Oops.

He's good to season of the week. But, you're all right. So that's fine. Then we cut to Patrick. Fucking tight buns on this gentleman. Jesus, dude. I got to say, though, you can definitely tell. There's, like, some makeup on this ass.

What do you mean? Because, like, nobody's ass is this, like, smooth and perfect. Come on. Arnold, too, honestly. I was surprised that Arnold has. some chest hair in that first scene. Oh, I didn't notice that. He even in 4K. Arnold, I missed it. Arnold, wait, we got to get

Ross in here. All right. Got a pamp. Pamp. Turn the cheek. Dude, if I'm doing this kind of nudity, there better be someone pamping my cheeks. You know? So he's wearing leather pants now. That's cool. The Arnold is. There's a great moment at the end of the movie I noticed this time

when we're in the like Terminator factory at the end. There's a part where Arnold I don't know, I don't recall what exactly he's doing, but he fucking bends over. And you can see these leather pants just hanging on by a thread. The pants are like, oh please keep it together. Keep it together.

Jim, I've split the leather pair. Jim! It's like the boat from Spider-Man Homecoming. Come on! Like James Cameron, it's like an IMDB Tribune Trivia fact was James Cameron had to buy a herd of cows just to get all the

leather for the pants. Oh wait, I dropped my, I drop my love, like, no, Arnold, Arnold, Stan, I'll get it. I will get it, Arnold. Arnold, thank you. Oh, look, a quarter. No, Arnold, that's what production is for, Arnold. But, um, one thing that I think that would be cool, like, because it's Robert Patrick, he is Robert Patrick, he's naked, a cop comes, gets him, he assumes the form of the cop, but, but he's not that cop, no, but that's what I mean, like, it's just some blonde cop. He just takes his uniform, right? It should be, like, a thing where he's a silver boop, and then, like, Robert Patrick. the cop comes, and then he gets him.

You're totally right. I was actually thinking about this watching it this afternoon. Silver boops. Silver boops all over the place, too. Silver's boobs, too. No, but you're totally right. And it's a weird that, like, Robert Patrick is the T-1000s fucking factory setting, I guess, is the idea. But, yeah, it should be a thing where Robert Patrick's, like, on the beat, and then, like, the glob comes up, like, the cold open of an X-Files episode.

It was just the last corpse he saw. Don't worry about it. How do we know? Before he got shot into the... I don't know. What do you know? What does anybody know? You're saying that this T-1000 murdered Robert Patrick off-screen and we didn't see it?

Before he got into the time machine thinger. Like he was a guy from the future. He was just like looking around. I'm going to be the folk singer from 2029, Bobby Harrison. It's going to be hilarious. No one's going to get it, but it's going to be funny to me. That would be incredible. Why are you looking like Bobby Harrison?

Anyone else get that? Wow, with the fantastic toys for your default setting. Oh, is Arnold look like some celebrity from the future then? Oh, that makes sense, too. Oh, totally. Maybe it's an actual, like, action star. They probably don't make movies. No, yeah.

No, Jack Slater. Oh, yes, yes. Speaking of T1,000's also in that movie, Last Action Hero. And apparently he's got, I read today. I don't remember, but apparently he's got a cameo in, Wayne's work. Of course he does. You don't remember that? No. When he's, Wayne is racing from Aurora to Chicago. He's making some big drive. He gets pulled over and the cop comes up and it's Robert Patrick and he just goes, have you seen this boy? And Mike Myers turns the camera and screams and then drives off. It's fucking hilarious. It's a really good move. It's like the third act like he's racing to Cassandra. I got to rewatch that. It's been many moons and many green. They were fucking quick on that too because this was 91 and Wayne's world was 92. so they're naked because they're that no no no no yeah yeah they're naked because the clothes can't go through the time tunnel you can't give them weapons which is a great detail but hair product no no you you gotta be naked yeah yeah even though flesh are clothes to these guys yeah or where is the hair product there like both these guys come out jelt to the max or is that's true it's just synthetic hair oh I see everything else is real flesh for some reason oh it's like horse hair yes exactly It's like doll hair.

Don't give me a haircut. I cannot grow it back. That is great in Genesis how he's got like gray hair. I do appreciate that because in Genesis he's these, that original Terminator model and it's like he's just grown old. Oh, because all the, you know. The flesh ages. Yeah, like he just gets old.

It's actually a kind of nice thing and I wish they could have stolen that idea and figured out something for Brent Spiner. Because I feel like there is some connection to be made between how they aged the Terminator and Genesis to how we can have data on the fucking Picard show. Data wants to be human to the point where he wants to be mortal and die, right? Sure, yeah.

Captain, I want to die. Yeah, Captain, I can't be doing these fucking poetry readings for eternity. I got the love handle chip. My question, who wins? Data versus Terminator. Oh, Terminator. Terminator, of course.

Hands down. I mean, yeah, like, I guess data is smarter maybe? Are you funny? Are you trying to play with me? No, I mean, I just, yeah, I don't know. No, because I think it would be a thing where, like, just due to the nature of the universe where data comes from, he would try to talk to this terminator. Oh, yeah. And the Terminator would just rip his fucking robot head off. No problems there.

Ed 209. Maybe there may be, maybe you're talking to them. Or maybe they bond, right? They're both kind of technically cyborgs, right? So maybe, or Android's, whatever. and maybe they could like... Okay, how about you teach me the piccolo and I will teach you how to kill?

Exactly. And they could start killing people together? All right, now, in exchange for my murder skills, you can teach me everything you know about Sherlock Holmes. It's natural-born killers, but with Arnold and data. Like, Arnold rescues data from his domineering father's house, Picard. They both kill Picard. It's Picard, but he's still dressed like Rodney Dangerfield.

Exactly. And it's Patrick Stewart getting drowned in a fish tank. They're in a jail, and they've just got Linda Hamilton's head on a spike running around. Not a bad idea. I'd watch this movie. At some point, we're introduced to John Connor's home life, which is he, so Linda Hamilton, Sarah Connor is in a mental institution. Sure. And so John Connor has these fucking, I keep saying step parents, but it's not step parents.

Foster parents. One of which is Zander Berkeley is the dad. And the mother is Alvarez from aliens, the tough. Oh, wow. Yeah, Jim Cameron alum. Oh, like that. He's good about that, that James Cameron. Yeah, he takes care of his own.

He'll bring him back. You think he's asking all these people if they want to be an avatar and he's not getting phone calls back? I'm sure some of them were blue people. Fucking sucks ass that just due to the nature of the universe and there being no God at all that fucking Bill Paxton can't be in. any of those Avatar movies. Because I'll tell you what. Or, or? What?

Tarkin' him in, dude. Oh, no way, dude. We're going to Tarkin' Town. Don't Tark in Paxton, man. Jeanette Goldstein, this is a woman's name. She's great in aliens and this, actually.

But, yeah, foster parents get a bad rap in this movie. Like, there are, foster parents get bad rabs in lots of movies. They are the salt of the earth. They're like, hey, man,

like you had a tough. First of all, find somebody who wants to adopt a 10-year-old kid, like a little, Like a little old and a little long in the tooth for a kid. Take a long and hard look at them first because why do they want that kid? Think about that.

That's the thing. Yes, Steve, you're halfway correct. Okay. And there are genuinely good people that try to foster children. But then there are foster parents like these people. Okay. Who it's like, it's a paycheck. Who the finger thing means the money.

It's also, and then you've got this other subsect of these foster parents that are into torture porn and making it themselves. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you know, sorry to crack the rose-tinted glasses on Steve Sadek here. Steve, what we're trying to tell you is you need to start watching SVU because the fostering system is broken. There's bad people out there. Okay, that's fair. That's totally fair. That's why Skynet was being good. But all this woman is like, hey, John, could you clean your room? And, you know, any, you're not my mother. Yeah, it's not an unfair request. She's like, she says to Zander Berkeley, like, he hasn't cleaned his room in over a month.

Sure. what the fuck is Xander Berkeley doing here it's in the middle of the day and he's watching a boxing match I saw this movie it could be a Saturday side notes could totally be a Saturday

I also saw this movie on a at a bar in Baltimore after we played our show and I couldn't leave the bar because it was just playing it was like the perfect bar movie that I've ever seen it's fucking tough to break away

from this movie no matter where you are but I realize for the first time it's Todd's day off Todd had a real rough week The boss was chewing him out. He just wants to have a beer, the boxing match. Maybe he's going to go over to Mickey's later, watch some football, maybe play some pool. Also, clearly Todd is a boxing fan because it's the middle of the day and what fucking fight is in the middle of the day.

So he taped it. He fucking taped it for his day off. And all he wants to do is pretend that he doesn't have this foster son, which I totally understand because you get a look at this kid. That's the other thing, man. Fucking read the menu when you're looking for these kids. Dude, if you came across Edward Furlong, no fucking way are you signing the paper. And worst case scenario, you adopt Edward Furlong.

Look, look, it's 10 years old. He's 10 years old. It's 10 years old. He'll grow out of it, maybe. You know what I mean? We can get him a good haircut in a couple years. And then all of a sudden, fucking Danny Cooksy starts showing up at your house. With a mullet and a denim vest, you're like, oh, great.

Yeah. Oh, great. That's the worst part about fostering Edward Furlong is that Budnick is a long for the ride. And you've just got a Bundnick kid in your house and his name might as well be Critter because look at that fucking mullet. Just look at that mullet. That kid is out playing in the dirt all the time.

Just take Matilda next time. Todd is buying a very souped up liquor cabinet with the best lock available. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely, because you know this kid's picking locks too. He's little criminal masterminds. He also noses, I bet, as well. Oh, Budnick's digging for gold, dude.

I think so. So he goes, you know, your mom. says clean your room she's not my mother Todd and he fucking blasts off on his little fucking dirt bike that means Todd's not his father

either yeah to tell double this whoa double this yeah this kid's just spitting in Todd's face on his fucking day off you know what Jeanette I talk to him I talk to him

watch the fucking fight please can I can I oh come on Todd it's not even the fight it's just one of those clip tapes Oh, he's watching bloopers I'm waiting for the blooper He's going to punch him

And his pants are going to fall down All right Look, I'm watching Little Mac fight King Hippo Okay By the way, Robert Patrick looks up John Connor in the police computer Sure

And one thing I love about On the screen on the police computer Is it's like reading off all the stats It's like natural mother Sarah Khan Natural father Oh, that's right, dude Would it have been better of you

but just said time traveler? But it's just funny for me it's natural father. Right. As a thing. Yeah, all cops are about that. It's just funny. It's a database.

The computer's telling me the natural father. Do you think it's the intention of T-1000 to seek out a cop because of the access? Is that a strategic move? No, he kills the first person? He does, yeah, it's a little bit of both.

Do you think he'd like, if it was a jogger, he'd just, like, have athletic clothes on the entire movie? I would like that, a big Nike swoosh. T-1000, sponsored by Nike. Hey, have you seen this kid? I'm running for charity? Have you seen this swoosh?

So we cut to Sarah Connor, who's in a mental institution. Again, Lynn Hamilton is awesome in this whole sequence. The one thing that Kyle Reese didn't teach her is how to fool a psychiatrist. She's so fucking bad. Kyle's got to be like, listen. And the whole world is going down. And by the way, If a therapist ever asks you about this,

keep mum on the whole thing. One day, a wily old man. Oh, damn it. Start asking questions about your psychosis. Well, I don't understand about this. This is the same therapist from the first one. Yes. And somehow he's followed her case all the way to this mental.

Dude, yeah, it's Loomis, dude. Yeah, he's kind of Lois of it. Sarah, get your ass away from that robot. But he was in the police station. when the big assault on the police station happened. Did he just blank it out? No, dude, he didn't blank it out. But he doesn't believe that it was a robot from the future.

Those are bangs like a doll's bangs. He just thinks it was like bangs. Some like maniac. Who got shot 70,000 times. It just got right through it. What I love is he's walking through a new crop of doctors and he's talking about her case. I'm sorry, but what is, like, what are the circumstances behind this? Because it's Dr. Silberman, who's the.

dude we're talking about. Yeah, who's great. There's a couple other doctors, but then there's like a couple of cops there. Like, what is this evaluation? It's the fucking exposition evaluation? It's definitely the exposition evaluation, but it's probably got something to do with she's only in the mental institution because she got arrested because of all the shit she did at that computer factory. And this is what's keeping out of real jail, but keeping her in. I see. You know, she's still serving a sentence of some kind. Oh, she was convicted of something? I think so. She tried to blow up the computer company. No, I know, but she's in

the booby hatch, though, which isn't necessarily like you're convicted of it. No, yeah, but yeah. She was, and then I think she was Well, there's bars all over the place, so I definitely think it's like a state run facility of some kind of like... Well, they got Lecter in there, dude, they should let them all out. Like, when they're breaking her out. When they're,

but he's walking around these people, he's like, and this one over here thinks she's, her husband's from the future. And everyone's like laughing. It's like a cocktail party. I'm like, did therapists do this? Like, make fun of their patience delusions behind their back? I'm not surprised at all to hear this. Film has taught me that like look how Garland Green is depicted

in the events of Conair. Everyone's laughing about that. Yeah, there is non-stop talking shit about Steve Bouchemy in that movie. That's very true. This is the deleted scene, which is such a good deleted scene. Get that out of that. Michael Bean has no place in this movie.

No. I mean, it's a good idea, but the scene is so bad if you've ever seen it. I think I saw it on YouTube was. I forget what it is. On your feet, soldier. It's like him like trying to like... Fucking force ghost. Yeah, and he's like, pumping up. He's like, our son's in trouble.

You've got to help him. And like, yeah, it's bad. Which is stupid because it's so much more effective when John Connor and the Terminator come to the hospital to break her out and she like sees him for the first time. Exactly. Yeah. And the way that the cut of the film plays is it's unexpected. Yes. A ghost hasn't been fucking prepping her.

for this moment. But it also makes the impulse him rather than her. Exactly. Exactly. It's ridiculous. You think MRA's had a lot of problem with this movie when this came out in the 90s? Like, oh man, where did this woman learn how to fight? How did she learn how to do push-ups? I don't understand any of it.

Well, I think this was the flashpoint for them, really. Because she's been, what, she's been dating ex-green beret, psychos. Well, she's also hanging in fucking Mexico with Uncle Enrique. The MRAs were idolizing the dude who's like licking her face. coming up they're like yeah man maybe if i just become like a correctionals officer and then they all

did apparently linda hamilton was getting fucking pissed off at that guy i could imagine not for the face licking but i guess he kept like flubbing some line or some shit uh and then like when she was hitting him with that fucking broom handle later like she was really hitting this guy oh that was when he was trying to hit her with the um baton yeah she got pissed because he was hitting her with baton was doing like lightly and wasn't like they couldn't get the shot right Oh, oh, oh, oh. And so she kept on getting it with his fucking baton for like an hour. Yeah, so Patrick comes to the house.

One of my favorite scenes. And he's like, is John Connor here? And this is the thing about the T-1000. The T-1-000 has all sorts of upgrades. It can make small talks. It can compliment your children. No Austrian accent whatsoever. Yeah, now with 100% no accent.

He's a good-looking boy. By the way, the amazing part of this scene, and if you don't think about it, you'll never think about it. So think about this. Okay. Zander Berkeley says to him as the cop, he's like, yeah,

there was a big guy on a bike came by looking for him earlier. Is that anything to do with this? Arnold Schwarzenegger meets the foster parents. Yes. Off screen, we don't know what that was about. Yeah, you're totally right.

I would be way more disturbed answering the door to the cops after some giant hulking monster asked me about where my child was. You wouldn't open the door after that's your morning, this weirdo showing up? Hello, can I see John Connor? No reason.

Yeah, exactly. I do not have the small talk thing. I can't do the compliment of your son. I have to protect him. Oh, okay. John Connor, please. The accent is what it is. John Connor, please.

Not processing, no, John Connor. Where are John Connor? I'm only a T-800. I can only do this conversation so far. He's just, like, standing across the street all day. Look, they're about to get to the bloopers, okay? It's awesome. They're just filming Arnold Schwarzenegger on the sidewalk across the street,

and the sun's going over the sky, and it's fucking petty. And the waiting is the hardest part. I will wait here until John Conner returns. Initiating protocol, waiting. Amendment waiting. Hey, man, you're going to wait out there all day? try to watch fucking bloopers in here later in the day

he's naked again everybody's taken as close I like to curl into a ball just like when I travel it's how I sleep restoring energy no but we go to wait I'm sorry because the line

I think throughout this conversation we're going to be pointing out because one of my favorite parts about this screenplay or about this movie is the screenplay in that there are just so many lines that you are like it's not necessarily from another movie

entirely but like the delivery of them is fucking hilarious and one here is Robert Patrick when he asked for the photo of John Connor she gives him the photo and he goes he's a good looking boy can I keep this picture the fucking delivery of can I keep this picture

like the beat that he takes is so awesome and then I'm just imagining a scene from happiness like going out to the fucking car with Tiger Beat oh Jesus yeah you couldn't even make it home dude the parking lot but thankfully he's a robot and doesn't have sexual impulses Damn, I should have asked for a picture.

If only I had the upgrades, the T-1000 does. Still walking around blind here. Doesn't Arnold say... John Connor, your son? Yes, right? No? Doesn't Arnold say in this movie, though, that he is a T-101? He does, but then I've also read that he's a T-800.

He's a T-800. Well, he's a T-800 in the first movie, but is that necessarily the same model as this guy? I think it's 800. It's like the 101 series. It's the new Accura T-800, 101 series. This Christmas, surprise your wife by fucking buying a Terminator in secret

and putting it out in the driveway with a bow on it. I think it's 101 because it's like the entry level. Like if you go to take a college class, you know, that's all I know. Oh, well, that's the thing is I kind of want to see all them through, like the T-200 is Dylan Baker. Oh, yeah. That would be amazing.

Danny DeVito's the T-450. How are they getting worse? Michael Shannon, the T-Eleven hundred. Oh, yes. That's my like it. Is your boy homes? Yeah, no, go fucking get him. I'll wait.

I'm a robot. I'm an alerted computer. Hep, hep, hep, human. Hep, hep, that's laughter. He's a good-looking boy. I'm going to kill him. Yep, you better pray to whatever God you believe in. Yep.

Yeah, the only difference between. me and the T-1000, I'm just a little more menishing. I don't have to do much to scare you. Yeah, the other one, he waited across the street. I'm going to wait right here. Yeah, my left eye got messed up in the time tunnel. All right, no, no, no. We got to send T-1,000 back in time again because that one didn't work out.

Because when he asked for that boy's photo, it took a different turn. The parents were so disturbed. Yeah, I'm just going to stand here at the foot of your driveway, and you can try to do nothing about it. you know I can turn my hand to a spatula so more T-1,000 hunting

he finds a young Nicky Cox by the way She was on that show Happily Never After Redheaded woman Yes Yeah oh okay this is What he's asking for directions

Yes and he's like The Galleria I think he's at the gallery The Galleria I love it I love it somewhat Robert Patrick is great. What is that like a sandwich shop?

I really feel like he... Did I go to Roman time? Do I have to go see a painting shit? I kind of want more Robert Patrick. I understand why there's less of him. It makes him more effective in every scene he's in. But I do want so much more of him

because he's so good in this movie. He's fucking... This is a career best for Robert Patrick. He knows it. I know it. We all know it. Ooh, the Sopranos. The Sopranos is fantastic.

This is better. He's awesome on that, though. Him trying to kill himself One of the most unintentionally funny things you'll ever see. I just want to mention it quick because it comes into play later. John Connor does hack an ATM machine. Oh, I was going to bring this up, dude, the ATM hack. Yeah, pretty sweet.

Easy money. Yeah, they got cameras on that now. Yeah, you can't be pulling that shit. I love, though, that it's like, it's totally like Barton Millhouse. Yes. Like, they just take all this money that they stole and they just go to the fucking arcade. Wow, what an arcade this is. by the way. The gallery in L.A.

They've got checked it out. They've got mission they've got missile command. They've got the old stuff got some afterburner going. Trog. Did you see Trog? I missed Trog in the background. Wasn't that Joan Crawford movie is called Trog? Yes. It's a Joan Crawford video game.

Welcome to a video game. Joan Crawford. The host this for you. So they play video games B'bba-Buh, T-1000 finds Danny Cooxie first. And like Danny Cuxie's good. Me, he's like, oh, I never saw that dude before. It's a smooth move right here from Budnick.

But certainly this fucking nerdmeister rats them out. Did you see a fucking huge nerd? This greasy mullet that this nerd has. Listen, guys, did you get a look at that nerd? I did get a look at that nerd. Excuse me? Dude, this guy looks like such a fucking nerd. Of course, he's ratting people onto the cops.

The cops like, hey, did you see this kid? I don't know anybody. You know what he looks like, by the way, I bet you anything. If you looked it up somewhere and found it, he looks exactly like Jeff Goldblum's middle school photo. Well, yeah, Budnick gets a beat. An A would have been like, oh, you know what? I just saw him across the way.

Oh, rent the Spencer's gifts. I love that this is Budnick's exit too. Because eventually the cop spot, you know, the nerd rats him out. He runs and like, Budnick's trying to like save his friend. Yeah, run interference and say, no, I think I saw that kid over that way. And Robert Patrick just fucking shoves Butnik like off screen, presumably off-planter. But Nick gets shoved out of the movie in time. It's amazing.

That's it for Bunnick. Never to be seen again. If it was the first movie, he would have been shoved into a video game unit and exploded or something. Or maybe he's having like a Tron side adventure throughout the events of this film. No,

then Robert Patrick would just come into the arcade and open fire on everything. Oh, yeah, that's true. But so this is the famous hallway scene. Eddie Furlong is running away. Sponsored by Pepsi. Dude, Pepsi guy gets it real bad in this. Oh, is he a Pepsi delivery man?

I thought he was a janitor. He's holding a Pepsi. He's a Pepsi and Joyer. I see. See, the Pepsi Enjureer is coming towards them. And then behind him is a Pepsi machine so that you could get more Pepsi even if you have a Pepsi. Pepsi, the drink you should be drinking when you get shot to death. This dude gets fucking wasted in the crossfire.

There is a Guns N' Roses song early in the movie. Arnold takes a shotgun out of a box of roses. Yeah. on N. Roses. Yeah, really? You know what? Is that an MTV trivia? No, I don't know. I'll just say it actually. I've literally never thought of that, but I think you're totally right. Yeah. That's a little bit of a non. Did anyone else see the music video for this song? Oh, no. I know. That they did for it. It's mostly... Is there just a bunch of Terminator feet?

There's, well, that there should be. But no, it's mostly clips, except for there is fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger with a gun and you can't do this today, uh, just walking through a concert looking at fucking Axel Rose. Yeah, they didn't let me do that last time. Last time he came, I was like, let me see Axel Rose. Look, sir, you can't bring a gun here. I don't give a shit. It's the name of the show. Look at the marquee.

It is around here. We are introduced to Joe Morton as Miles Dyson, the brains at Sky, or what will launch Skynet at it. Cyberdyne, of course. he's got some like intern calling after him right here where basically the point of this scene is to one reveal Miles Dyson but also or introduce him and also show that Cyberdine already has this

leftover Terminator arm well somebody's like somebody wants to the interns like we need to sign it out somebody wants it they're taking it out a walk another birthday party they want more pictures of the Terminator arm Hey kids it's Army the Turminator arm Hey, kids, it's Army, the Terminator arm.

Happy birthday, Jimmy. And now this is from the Terminator of the first film's events. Yes. Well, because that Terminator gets, like, crushed in a thing. Correct, right? A hydraulic press of something like. Yeah. Yeah.

And then, but his arm is like clearly out. Sticking out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've taken it and now they're doing research on it. And this arm. And the brain chip as well. Yes. Right.

And so this arm and chip will then lead to the creation of Skynet. It's a weird circular thing. And right here is where I really. Otherwise, like, if you start thinking even just the littlest bit about the time travel logic of this movie, your head will explode. Well, it's because time takes place all at once, so it totally makes sense. This movie tries to get around that later in the movie for a long as talking to Schwarzenegger's like, yeah, I guess my dad actually is Kyle Reese, who only came back from the future. You think about it, makes your head hurt a little bit. I'm like, yeah, it does Terminator 2.

Yes, things that don't make any fucking sense. my brain a lot. So I gotta, I gotta grow up to send my buddy back in time to fuck my mom. And if I don't, I cease to exist. You might forget, but that is the plot to Terminator Salvation. Yes. Is that fucking Kyle Reese gets taken by the machines and he has to go fucking get it. Oh, right. Because if he's not freed to go back in time, none of the shit will happen. Kyle Reese played by the late Anton Yalkin. That's right. Now, it would be, if they did that well, they leaned into Skull, Skull Beach, Steve's Skull Beach. idea and did that well and it was all about you know fucking Kyle Reese needs to go back in time to score it would be fucking great but but Mick G and the way they shot that movie and all the

bad elements they added John Connor is like Gavin McKinnis and he's like you can't you can't come you can't come Kyle Kyle Kyle Kyle it's no fap November but also also isn't my mom hot look how hot my mom is

look at this picture of my mom do you like the headband second question in this room this white room that's got the chip and the arm like you know

the arm survives the chip survives was there also like alien skull in there no I'm just curious like Terminator teeth just in a drawer kind of loose

a bunch of Terminator teeth what what like weapons advantage would the teeth give you got to put that under your pillow and the computer fairy will come

and take the teeth and you give you the chip there's one more teeth left look like i'm getting $20 now there's nothing left my house is empty so this enters one of the best sequences

of the movie which is the motorcycle dirt bike chase with the big semi-truck with the truck there it starts off fucking awesomely with so Eddie Furlongs on his stupid dirt bike he cuts off this trucker and the ADR on this trucker so Robert

Patrick like he's doing hilarious robot running and he runs out which is beautiful he's so menacing just running it's great amazing and he so there's like this trucker that's like wow that kid pulled in front of me well whatever and he just goes it's the flattest ADR he's like damn it and then like Robert Patrick opens the door and pulls this guy out and he just goes oh ah and you see this guy like fall on the sidewalk and that's it. But it launches this fucking great chase scene. This is like through the L.A. River and all this.

It's fucking awesome. It's beautiful L.A. River. This is why I like, we love movies month. Last night I'm watching this movie in the middle of the week. I'm eating defrosted chili. Just having myself a little bit of a weeknight there. Defrosted chili. Oh yeah. It's what you eat right before you start considering suicide.

Right. And I'm sitting there just kind of watching a movie and I'm like, oh shit, this is pulse pounding action right now. Yeah, absolutely. I'm getting excited in my house by watching this movie. Absolutely. It's not, I couldn't say the same for Poinsettias for Christmas, which I was watching. Oh, I've seen that movie recently. Oh, is that right?

I watched it the day after Thanksgiving. What is this? You'll have to read our recent issue of the Big Daddy Dispatch to find out. It's a fucking lifetime Christmas movie. Interesting. Well, I guess you'll have to sign up at patreon.com slash we have movies for that. That's right. I will say a thing that fucking holds up here, and it's crazy that it holds up here.

all of the like CGIing Arnold's face on this biker as all the stunts are happening it all totally holds up it looks fucking great and as far as like T1,000 being the jelly man it doesn't I mean it doesn't look

mind blowing but for what it is 91 for fucking 91 I know it looks amazing it looks better than shit that you see now it looks better than the new Terminator movies they've been doing yes I agree because it's more rained in they knew they had to like

shoot around it as opposed to like ah we'll just do it later well yeah because it's supposed to be spackle not the whole fucking thing exactly you're totally right this is where we get Arnold though like he after the big chase or whatever he's explaining to Eddie Furlong what T-1000 is and we get the liquid

metal he's fucking great oh my god is it's a bit of an upgrade look I'm an older model I can still get the job done and to Eric who was asking about this he's a cybernetic organism when I'm pumping iron and then it feels like I'm spraying

liquid metal when I'm with a woman it feels like I'm doing liquid metal and you know he's like hey I want to check out my foster parents

because negative they are deadbeats in my old terminating days I'm not the Terminator anymore I hung all that up but that's the first place I would go I have the inside track

on what this guy is going to do okay listen I killed a lot the children and I would go there first. Let's just start with the Terminator. I'm the Happenator. In my old terminating days, man, oh,

it was rough. I've turned over on a new lift, though. I protect you. I am now the Happenator. I do a bunch of happenings around L.A. It's very cool art scene, kind of influenced by the fluxists and... It's a great performance piece I have coming up. You walk into the gallery. There's nothing

but a framed photograph of me holding a broom, but I am secretly under need the floor masturbating and you can hear it pumped over the PA system. It's great. Under it says it made that my buddies get, you know, they do little, in human form they make these words

and it says, in French it says this is not a robot. It's very, very deep. Dude, Terminator performance art, man. I would check it out. You should come out for doing a big one down at the Galleria. Galleria. Yeah, come down to the gallery.

I'm going to turn into your mom and freak you out. Well, this is the most terrifying part of this movie. Dude, The Terminator and John Connor have to use a pay phone. Oh, gross. So he calls, John calls, and the lady there answers. The mom, stepmom, answers. Foster. Foster mother answers, and she's like very nice.

He's like, there's something wrong. She's never this nice. That's my question, though, is I think this is, a bad move here on the screenplay's part because how does the T-1000 not know that these people are terrible? Yeah. You know what I mean?

That's not in the upgrades. The T-1100 could be a little shitty to people. Oh, I see. What you want there is a T-11-oh, you want to impersonate shitty foster parents. Oh, you want the T-1100. Oh, here's your problem. It was switched to polite.

So then this great Xander Berkeleying all over this scene. He's going to get some milk. The dog is barking, and he goes, shut the hell up, you stupid piece of shit. Worthless piece of shit. Worthless piece of shit. Oh, it's great.

Delightful. Delightful, Zender Berkeley. And then you see the T-1000. You don't even know that the T-1000 can really do this yet. And you just see her. Voice mimicking. No, Jeanette Goldstein's arm just goes like to the left. You hear a noise, and you don't know what's going on.

Yeah. And then, well, the Terminator is getting suspicious right here. So he starts throwing his voice to sell. like Eddie Furlong and he's like what is the dog's name so then he creates this is actually pretty smart on the terminator's part he creates a fake name he's like

how's Wolfie doing Wolfie's fine dear yeah when are you coming home or where are you is the question she has to hangs up your foster parents are dead you are foster parents are dead let me call back hello is your refrigerator

running hey T-1000 why don't you eat my ass right now You don't know where I am, do you? Hi, sizzle chest. I want to talk to who's in charge over there. Yeah, this is Frank Rizzo. Listen, me and my associate is coming by.

You show us a good time. Yeah, you're a fucking joke, T-1000. You're a fucking joke. I've got John Connor. Like, the game is over. Why don't you go back to the future? Like, just forget to give it up. It's kind of great right here.

around here is where John Connor makes the Terminator pull over so we can yell at him for a little bit. And this is where it's revealed that like the Terminator because future John Connor like set this whole thing up, this John Connor has total command over this robot. Sure.

So it's like, oh, stand on one leg Terminator. Yeah. But then this is a great part messing with meatheads in the parking lot. Oh, dude, this is too much. Because Eddie Furlong's freaking out like, oh, help me. Oh, this guy's beat me up and like these two dudes come over like hey is there a problem here who but they're

just being good guys they're actually just trying to help a kid who's in who's being manhandled by a giant monster yeah these two like out of work professional wrestlers like they're just like just worked and they're like just work this early hey let's fuck that guy up they're coming from working the fucking afternoon shift at the flea market they're doing flea market wrestling and uh yeah that he breaks this he breaks this he breaks this dude's arm and he's about to shoot him in the face. No, no, Charminator, no, no!

Yeah, the gun goes off, but not in this dude's face. There's an awesome back and forth here was, like, the guys come up like, hey, is there a problem here? And, like, for a long tells him to get lost. He goes, one of the guy goes, fuck you, you little dip shit. And then it's like,

did you just call me a dip shit? Did you just call Mois? A d'I. Yes. That's the key to it. Chills. Now who's the dipshit, you jack, douchebag? I mean like I think for a long is good in this movie But he gets on your nerves He will get on your nerves

Well because they definitely have a code Embedded in the Terminator If it's something that obnoxious is said at that pitch Mua you just have to kill it He's teaching him all sorts of obnoxious Stuff in this movie like Oste la Vista is kind of obnoxious I would have preferred another line

He does teach the Terminator That the Terminator decides not to use It's Leida Dick Wad That could have been the end dude That could have been fucking shooting T-1,000 when he's frozen later on. I thought you were going to say

when he's getting lowered into the... That's what I thought. He totally doesn't understand the meaning of the word. Dick-Wod. Sorry, Eric. He gives him the bird as he's going down.

Laid the dickwads. Wait, wait, wait. With his last breath that the Terminator call us dickwads? And if a Terminator can call us dick wads,

maybe we'll all be all right. So we go to the mental... By the way, Zender Berkeley gets fucking narked in the face with this knife, which is amazing. Right through the fucking mouth, dude. Right through the milk, through the mouth. And yeah, they added a married with children joke.

He's drinking out of the carton. Yeah, yeah. It's awesome, though, man. I fucking love it. It's like a fucking Jason Voorhe. It is a very, like, horror movie look and kill there. So we go to the mental hospital. Sarah Connor is being put down for the night. There's

a whole sequence where she's like trying to get out, trying to be a good patient. This is her being terrible about it. And Silberman sees right through it. It's like, yeah, well, obviously. Well, the scene starts with her being like, oh, hey, Doc, how's your knee? To which this dude has to explain to these people like, oh, yeah. Last week, she stabbed me in the knee with my own pen.

So of course, Sarah Connor, you can't just put on this fucking performance. Sarah, maybe you don't bring that up in the meeting. How about that? You stabbing him a week ago. That's it, dude. Like, you're not getting paroled or whatever the fuck. Also, if you could let out of prison, they got to get a wetwork. team out to fucking take care of you.

I don't know what you want here, lady. And so she gets turned down. She's just got, no, and freaking the fuck out. They have to put her down. They inject her with all sorts of shit. And I mean, like, also, Sarah, that's the moves. When they say, no, you're like, okay, that's final. I'll ask next week. And, you know, I'm, it's the new Sarah now. Like, I can

take rejection. Of course, because, like, she has this whole of the breakout plan. She's got the little, like, whatever's stuck in her mouth to break out of the fucking cups. Oh, well, that's when the cops come, and they're like, hey, Sarah, uh, your son is missing. seeing the foster parents are dead it's this bald guy and he's like yeah you know

and like she's like doing Stone Face Catatonic thing which is kind of like her go to and he's like don't you we know this guy's involved don't you care that's my favorite part of this movie I don't know why that line just takes it's a great it's a great delivery so she takes this paper clip from this cop

then she up there's this creepy guy who looks like he kind of looks a bit like Edward Herman there a bit like a blonde Ed Herman we're talking about the face licker Yeah, yeah, I could see that. Yeah, he's got like the Coke bottle glasses. Yes, and he licks her face. You know, that's what this guy's doing.

Yeah. That's what that's his job, man. So all of this comes together. I'm going to go post on Reddit later. Well, he's not getting cor-chain. It's for-shade. I apologize. Well, no, it's both.

Dude, two accounts. Yeah, he's got two browser tabs open, don't worry about it. Hey, man, two tabs at the same time. very cool but so after the whole fucking the parking lot dust up with those beefcakes furlong gives the order

he's like hey man we're going to go break my mother out so they're on their way there the Terminator advises against this because he says listen you fucking idiot like the T-1000 is going to be going right there don't be so stupid again that's the first thing

they teach you in Terminator school is go to the mother's house I have a germinator 101 remember it's basic termination exterminate it. And what's great is when the 2-1000 does he does go to this goddamn mental facility or whatever, and

they just let him in instantly. Any police cruiser, you don't even need to talk to anyone whatsoever. You could be 30 fucking you could be 30 states out of jurisdiction and they just fucking signal you in. We're missing a big part in that

Edward Furlong is very clear like you can't kill anybody. We want this. for a mass audience, not a cult hit. You understand that? Yeah, it is, it's very much. And it's a bit watery for him. I mean, like, you do get some death in here, like, great death.

But to your point, Chris, yes. I kind of want to split the middle here, like, only killed a bad guy's Terminator. Well, I think, like, the whole, like, not killing philosophy he tries to instill in the Terminator turns out to be pretty great because it adds comedy to film. Oh, all the times he's shooting people in the leg. Exactly, like shooting out knee.

caps. I'm laughing my gut off. Well, this is, like, Arnold does that for the first time and Furlong's, like, freaking out, and he's like, he'll live. Yeah. It's a fucking great line. It is. And to determine it in the T-1000 takes the form of one of the fat

twins from Gremlins. Yes, yes. Grimlins, too. Gremlins, too, yes. Cruise control. The red-headed one. Great scene. Great scene here where then, you know, the T-1-000 does the little metal knife into these guys' eyeballs. I will say the T-1000, you know, like, so like he, uh, and for a long, I'm like, so what?

He could disguise himself as a pack of cigarettes. He's like, no, no, only as objects of equal weight and size. I'm like, oh, shit. Like when he becomes Janet Goldstein or Jennifer her name is, she's definitely shorter than Robert Patrick. Well, that's one thing, but the fucking floor. The floor are also. The fucking fat twins.

Like, these guys are bigger than Robert Patrick. Exactly. I don't know where this. Is he hollow? Is he hollow? I mean, I think the Terminator is saying like, I said I'm up like a balloon. Well, he's saying like, you know,

he can't turn into like a fucking dinosaur. But if it's like the size of just a person. Okay, so can you let truck asaurus, maybe? Could he like turn into like three dogs connected by a string then? Like, is that like how that works? Like the first experiment before we got to the human centipede.

Yes. Dog centip? Canine centipede. Wasn't there a diagram? Am I just make, am I writing my own movie dog centipede? No. I thought maybe the scientist.

Thinking about Aero Flynn and the duck centipede? Oh, no, don't talk about Errol Flynn's private life. It's very complicated. Ducks end up. Errol Flynn, when he was a young lad, fed, like, a special kind of fat to ducks. And ducks really love it. And they just digest it super quick. So he would go into his backyard, throw, like, a piece of that on, like, a very long string.

Uh-huh. And just ducks would keep on eating it. Oh, you. And he would just line up, like, six ducks on a string. Oh, what? Allegedly. They weren't digesting The state of Aero Flynn's coming for us

They didn't they didn't digest the fat And it just came out their ass Yes And then the next duck was like Ooh yummy yummy yummy This is just how you pass time It's disgusting Just how you pass time

In rural Tasmania By the way His autobiography Which I'm sure he didn't actually write himself But it was very entertaining There's one point where he's talking about Like having a job

We're just talking about Arrow Flynn He's got a job I don't think he I have to reread it but it's definitely a job mentioned. I don't know if he did it himself, or it's just a job that's mentioned

that existed supposedly in rural Australia or whatever at the time. Duck pranker? No, castrating like bulls, which you would do with like your teeth or something. Maybe, you know, sheep is probably sheep. And you have to like bite the nuts off. You got to bite the nuts off.

Yeah. Oh, that's something. It's manual labor. Initiating ball biting protocol. Somehow the wages were better than they are today. Harold Flynn was a T-065. That'd be, dude.

A T-negative 5? Yeah. Set a Terminator film in like the era of classic Hollywood. That'd be pretty cool. That would be fucking awesome. I mean, that's always the thing, the natural thing, is like, kill Sarah Connor's great-grandparents in fucking rural Appalachia. You know what I mean?

Blow these fucker, blow these hicks away. Or you're Arnold Schwarzenegger, you're looking fucking fantastic. Break up a marriage. They don't make with it. That's so easy. Welcome to my new job, sexy terminator. I'm the marriage terminator. I'm here to terminate your marriage.

I'm here to work on your farm and talk to your wife. Yes, madam. I'm going to pump you up. Oh, my God. Or he just goes back way in time. Like, hello, is this, are you Neanderthalk, Mukba? And you become the great, great, great, great, great, great. Sunset, Sunrise, great, great.

He's just a grandfather of Santa Conner, and he shoots him. He's just on the beach stomping on any fish that, like, can walk out of the water. I must stop mankind when it set the roots. Sounds right. Oh, you know, fuck the dinosaurs too. Oh, wait, maybe the dinosaurs will invent us, the robots. So we're in the... Dynobots. That's how they got started.

That is what they started. That's the alternate reality when the Terminator. kills all man is dynobots have Sarah Connor breaks out of her her cell there she beats the ever-loving shit out of this guy with a broomstick Oh it's awesome

This guy could get it a little more In a movie of people getting it Face Licker could get it a little more But he gets it plenty enough I think she's like one blow away from taking his life Yeah so it's like enough for me Well he's like what He's killed what tops five people

Yeah sure Joe Morton's killed three billion And he gets it a little bit This face licker's got his fucking van out in the parking lot. It says pussy wagon on it. You know what I'm talking about? Like, come on. So one thing about this movie, and it really hit me here, is the Foley artistry is really, really good.

It's outstanding. Absolutely. From the first fucking skull chomp there. You hear it. Skull step. When she's running down the hallway, I mean, we're cutting ahead here. I kind of have to. We do.

The terminator comes out. the elevator she sees him she falls down and she starts like sliding back you hear the scraping and sliding of her feet and it's like you it's very visceral like you really get everything you like up there like i i remember those floors in high school yes exactly it adds a lot to the movie yeah so she she takes the silverman hostage she's got roteruter in his fucking neck which is pretty dope great that's pretty awesome great idea this is when they meet up with the t-1-000 who's who walks through the wall and it's kind of walking to the bars. This is where Silberman

believes it because he sees him walk through the bars and the guy's like, oh, I was fucking wrong. There are Terminators. Oh, dang. Yeah, this whole thing's great. This is the first. So many medical professionals get thrown around and thrown into beams. Through windows, walls. Oh, my God. Everyone just gets up, fucking, their nose right into plaster.

It is so tough. It's awesome. Getting it in this scene is so good. The other thing that I felt a lot more in this whole sequence was Brad Fidel's score. Yeah. It's fantastic. It's one of my favorite scores. And the cast iron pan. It's that on repeat, right?

Okay. Like he famously like used iron pans to make the percussion so that it would sound like super metallic. Yeah. Oh, is that right? Yeah. It's that's what robots listen to. It's just the music. That and Scott Walker.

Oh, yeah. This is a banger. Turn it off. Super cool. Those pans are clanging. Loving it, man. He's snapping his fingers. Wow, he's really slaying on that pan.

Oh, he's taking out the pots. He never does this. He never does this. Oh, my God. He's playing two pots at the same time. Shit. Oh, my God. He just threw his keys in a slow cooker.

If I could come, I would come. Look at that. He gently opened one of those pop times. top stove, top popcorn things, put a bunch of nails inside it, folded it to back up and then turn the stove on. Oh, man, he just put a whisk in a blender. So now we're chasing out of the facility. Yes.

We're driving real fast. This is the famous T-1000. He makes hooks on his arms. One of the greatest Simpsons parodies of all time with Homer wanting to hang out with Flanders and he's doing the golf clubs. And the fucking great Maude Flanders line to go faster. Flander says, I can. It's a GEO. Slam. And yeah, he's going. He's going. And he's like, hook it into the car.

And, you know, she's like, they knock him out of the window. You know what I mean? Like, and the part of the hook falls and like it's on the car. And I always kind of want John to hold on to it. Like, what's going to happen? You know, like, I feel like take them apart piece by piece. Bary that in the desert. Don't give it back to him because then we see it like reassume into his foot or whatever. Yeah. And that thing more than anything reminded me of like a. X-Files moment. Like, here's this little bit of goo

and it just like joins under this dude's boot. Oh, it was people goo. Well, that's, I would be really weird. It was people goo. You would think that little piece of goo would probably kill them all if he brought it back into the car.

A little one? Like a little guy? Oh, shit. Like Fantasia. Right. Or like an army of darkness when there's lots of little ashes. Well, that's some fantasia.

Oh, right. You're right. That's what that is referencing. That's correct. I do love at this point. I don't watch a lot of lot of children's films. Dude, let me tell you something.

You get fucked up and watch Fantasia. You'll thank me for it later. I'm okay. I don't need the FBI knocking on the door. She's driving. She goes up to Terminator because she at first she obviously thinks he's a bad

terminate. She's a no moment, which is great. But she's driving. So what's your story? And I kind of want him to be like, oh, little of this, little of that.

Same shit, different day, you know. I banged on some pans back in the day, you know, in college. I had a good pan band. I wanted it to be like Lubowski's backstory I rode it for the Metallica

for about three years and then I joined the new left A little bit of everything you know a Jack of all trades Master of None what can I say And yes I know you're thinking it Sex work So they go to this

Luckily found abandoned gas station Who would have guessed One of the odds And yeah she patches him up there's some back and forth this is we do get actually some Terminator watching the window and the sun rises and sunsets kind of a thing like oh that's

it's kind of a comical shot because it's just Arnold frozen and then like the sun comes up yes they really shot that it was just Arnold was on break and they snuck a shot Jim I'm getting tired you're sure you can't do your special effects magicie or what

this guy's a wizard with that stuff Patrick's Joe can be nothing but liquid metal, but I can't have a sunset fake. Oh, wait, hold on. Let me check my answering machine. Hey, Arnie, it's, uh, it's Jesse again. I keep hearing a lot about this T-1,000 thing. Any chance I can get in there, buddy? Hey, are they locked down who they got playing him or what? Hello, hello, Arnold. It's your old friend, Lanz. There's a T-1-000 now, right?

look all I'm saying buddy us going toe to toe warriors from the future going at it in the 90s buddy it would be something sweet for the fans you have your high and tight crop with the sunglasses i also wearing sunglasses sporting the rat tail maybe we give the fans what they really want and me and you smooch look i'll do it buddy it gets cold up here in minnesota i got to keep the gas going. It's a kiss and fight. It's the last thing they'd expect. Look, Arnie, all I'm saying is it's two Terminators playing

Kiss Chicken. Who's going to turn away first? Who's going to dodge the tongue? Jim. Jim, you ref. Jim, you ref this. It's okay. It's a metal tongue. Look, I know I've bombed my last three meetings with Jim Cameron.

Just give me one more, pal. That third one didn't count because I swear God, he looked exactly like this dude working in the parking lot. I thought it was the same guy. That was a mistake. I was wrong to bring the McDonald's into the meeting. I'm sorry.

Did you just say McMee? I got another Mick meeting. Got another Big Mac in here. That's what Jesse Ventura calls it when he has a business meeting at a McDonald's. Oh, he's pencil in another Mick meeting, buddy. So many film producers want to meet

me down at the McDonald's. It's insane. Trust me, I'm in high demand. Call me back, buddy. All right. Oh, wait. Oh, well, pardon me all the hell. I didn't know you'd had to have a brother in nine inch fucking nails to get a role in the new Terminator movie. My apologies, Robert fucking Patrick. Great. Yeah, great. Did you see all the people that were almost playing him? Yeah, there's a lot of different people. Michael Bean was going to be him. Which is kind of cool. No, it's not. That's the. dumbest idea of all time. I like that idea. But the better one, the one I wanted to see, was Gilbert Godfrey? Billy Idol. Oh, Billy Idol. Whoa. It's a nice day for a

bot wedding. Well, yeah, I guess Billy Idol would be another one of these actors that can't act, so just make him a robot. But he'd just be like, oh yeah, I'm the T-1,000. That's a good-looking boy, all right? Have you seen this, kid? The Galleria.

So all Terminators are foreign is the idea. Like, everything's got a German terminator or an Austrian terminator or a British Terminator. Call to John now, love. Come on, then. I mean, the whole, like, Austrian accent, I guess, makes sense for cold, you know, right? Sure, yeah. But British just seems so fucking human. Too human.

So we go to Mexico, right? We're kind of driving down the road. We meet up with uncle and. Enrique, who I don't know what these people are. Are these people drug runners, doomsday peppers? They're a caravan. A little of column A and a little of column B and add on C and D. I think isn't it supposed to be the kid or from the first one?

Because at the end, she's at this gas station in the first one. Oh, okay. And that's like the guy says, oh, hey, and he takes the picture that Michael Bean has. Yeah, but I mean, like, where are these guns coming from and all this shit? Well, that's all, we're told that that's all Sarah Connor. Oh, right. John Conner sees that little fucking war shay. Sarah Conner's running the Mexican cartels from prison.

She's like, she's proto El Chapo. Eventually that guy comes and takes over her turn. Benicio del Toro's coming for her. Do you see the fucking funniest thing related to the, the El Chapo trial going on right now? No. So we have the El Chapo trial going on in Lower Manhattan right now. And there was a dude I saw some reporter,

I don't know if it was like WNYC or NPR or maybe just some random reporter on Twitter. Somebody was saying that they were going around there was a dude that was like holding a free El Chapo sign

and the reporter went up to this dude and they were like hey man what's with the free El Chapo sign and the guy was like oh man you know

like this guy didn't do anything wrong they're doing him dirty blah blah blah and the reporter was like he's being tried for the murder of 40 people and the guy just goes

oh El Chapo trivia dude you know if I was on that jury no fucking way would I say guilty. You think my vote's going to bring those people back? Not guilty.

Yeah, I don't want to be tied to a chair my eyeballs fucking ripped out of my head or whatever the hell has to happen. That's what's going to happen. Dude, if I'm going to be skull fucked to leave it to the devil. Listen, they're going to find out who you are and they're going to kill you.

I'm just saying free L. Chap. Or use your family for leverage. Yeah, because listen, there's definitely people on the inside. They're underpaid, understaffed. They're going to turn over all your information over to the cartels right when they call on. This is a teaser for our new coward cast.

All right. Before we start jury selection, has anyone watched the news lately? No, okay. Anyone listen to any we love movies podcasts or we hate movies? Okay, you're excused, you're excused. So yeah, she meets up with this guy.

This guy, by the way, is an unusual suspects. He's the turncoat that gets shot in the head there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the informant that they're looking for. Oh, is that right? I didn't tell him nothing. I swear. I swear.

That's a movie. Here's the thing. Am I allowed to go back and rewatch that movie? I think you're fine. I think other than the Spacey Clause 647-2, if he is the villain and or is murdered at the end of the movie, you can go back and check it out. Hilariously enough, James Cameron currently married to Gabriel Burns' girlfriend in that movie. Oh, Susie Amis. It's James.

Well, look at that. James Cameron has had a lot of relationships. He has. He's Catherine Bigelow for a bit. Yeah. Linda Hamilton. Well, Gayle and her? Gayle and her.

They are fucking hilarious photos. Yes. Yes, I was about to mention this. It's on IMDB. Go to go to her page. You can see them a lot faster. Then if you go through James Cameron's got tons of photos, man. Looks like a 1980s captain and Tenniel photo shoot.

They are laying on each other. I think I've seen what you're talking. Turtlenecks and like feeling each other's body. And it's like, shit. James Cameron is an absolute sex weirdo. Sex weirdo to the highest degree. He's fucking on the high seas. Snake sex.

That's what he likes. Snake sex. He's fucking on the actual Titanic underwater. But he made a separate movie down there. And the whole blue people fucking with their brain stones. It's all there. Everybody had a water bed in the 1980s. James had a lube bed.

Oh, fuck. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. Oh, these pictures are weird. Right, right, right. Put a black light on those photos. So, they only have sex in a room like Dexter's murder rooms. Sarah Connor takes a nap here, has a very cool nightmare of, uh, I love it of 97 when I,

when everyone blows up, right? The nuke's happened. This sequence is awesome. It's fantastic. And it's all, it's all done in miniature and it's all really like, again, viscerally like devastating. You see the shit move around. You're seeing her, Sarah.

Sarah Connor who there's like two Sarah Connors right here because there's like Sarah Connor with like baby John Connor at this playground She's twin sister by the way. What? That's her twin sister play. No fucking way. Every time there's a double Sarah Connor it's a twin sister. Oh shit. And the kid is her kid.

Yes. Who's kid? Hamilton. Hamilton's kid. Oh so it's like this dude's hanging out with his aunt. Yeah. Yeah. And but like also years later you're this kid and you're watching the scene like holy fuck mom. Well, because it's, dude, it's fucking brutal, man, because, like, the Sarah Connor we know and love, like, we see her, there's, like, a couple of, like, after shock waves and, like, pieces of her keep falling off. And then it's like, whoosh, skeleton, but it's still a screaming skeleton. Yeah, dude.

It's awesome. And I love seeing just, like, that the city be destroyed. And apparently Skynet was like, it launches nukes against Russia. Yeah. Right. So that the counter strike wipes out their enemies here. in the United States I'm thinking shit

this sounds like a viable idea for humans right now Of course This could happen at any moment Just do it End it all We would build a better society From the ashes

You just are assuming You're living through this I know I'm assuming I am dying You want an excuse to grow a rat tail That's the thing is you're like You know what post apocalypse Definitely I can definitely support a rat tail

No one's gonna say nothing I'm missing half my teeth because of the radiation. I'm living up in the hills. Right before this awesome dream sequence, which also, is it really explained how she's had, is it like, it's not, right? She doesn't know it. It's just, that's her imagination.

Okay, right. It's not like I had a vision of, I mean, I guess maybe there's an interpretation. I would think she, yeah. But like Michael Bean didn't have a little clamshell fucking video thing or whatever. It doesn't matter because that dude's cut out of this fucking movie, i.e. not in it. Totally fine.

Terminator doesn't need ghosts. It does not. We got enough robots and gleep gloops. We're done with ghosts. Advanced robots don't mix with ghosts. Agreed. There's a weird thing though

right before she falls asleep there's like some narration pops back in and she's talking about how like she's kind of bummed that the biggest father figure that John Connor has is the Terminator. I think she's setting herself up.

She's like, I could fuck that Terminator. Yeah. If that Terminator had a dick, I'd fuck it. That's exactly the conclusion that she's coming to. That Terminator does have a dick, my friend. Yeah. We already discussed it for an hour. We determined that he has got a giant dick.

Just all due to some fucking cabin, fucking totally greened-out observation. You see it in the first one. It's fucking bopping and flapping everywhere. Here's the question. Donald Schwarzenegger's probably uncut in real life. I mean, just thinking about him being born in Austria and all that. So listen. yes

Robert Patrick Hey listen listen buddy the T-800 is uncircumcised I'm circumcised it all works out the new T-1,000 he's coming cut buddy but I'm guessing

Robert Patrick is circumcised and that's just my hunch Robert Patrick please correct me if I'm wrong a gentleman in the 1950s Irish family yeah he got his fucking dick chop dude don't worry about it

we're already doing the smooch might as well do more If you're born in the United States, you get your dick and a guillotine real fast. But I want to just mention... I'm the judge right now, and I'm like, all right, counselor, you're on a thin rope.

I'll allow it. But, okay, so you're making these robots. I look like fucking Marie Antoinette down there, buddy. I should let them eat cake. Okay. Listen, Arnold. I'm feeding my dick cake.

That's why I should be the T-1000. I do them uncircumcised. It would only make sense. of all terminate the lines would be uncircumcised. Is that Svenolithor? Yes, it is slenderly. Okay, so what I was getting at, okay,

right? So the robots would probably standardize, right? I mean, sure. So would they, they would have to pick one, I would imagine? Oh, I seriously. Or would they really, would they do those?

I guess maybe they're trying to really hide them in human society. They would make them different, but it seems like a lot of work for that flavor of skin. No one's going to look at this robot's dick and be like, uncut. Is that guy a robot? Fair, but I just, I don't know.

That's actually, but I'm just thinking like, what would they decide upon? This is my other question, actually, about cut. It would be cut. It's just, it's the more universally, except the thing. The other question I have in this country. Well, fucking, dude, Miles Dyson works for an American company. Yeah, so, it's a great point. Okay, I will concede to cut.

Counselor. Everyone's got helmets out for this. My question is, why the Terminator blood? Like, why give a Terminator blood at all? Because when the Terminator blood comes out, the jig is up robot-wise anyway. It's always like he gets shot in the face, and then he bleeds for no reason. It doesn't matter. You know that guy's a robot.

No, but you're posing in an office, it gets a paper cut. No, no, no. I do the band-a-eigh. You have to have the blood because it's organic tissue. Oh. It's built in. it's common with the car buddy the blood's incidental is what you're saying absolutely i thought it was like they put blood in there just to trick people no there's not some fucking tom savini magic trick

going on it's actual flesh also to your point it's not like they're assuming all of them are going to get bruised up and shit up or anything they just got to blend in if they get a pup paper cut they should have a paper cut they set these things in naked and ready to kill for clothes and ammo like that's that's in what situation is a terminator working an office job in my All right. All right. I just have to wait out Sarah Connor for her coffee break. I'll gain her trust. Ask for a cigarette, then kill her. I believe somebody here may have stolen my steepler. I'm going to burn the building down and trust me, I'm a germinator. It will happen. We can talk about Merrill's place at the water cooler. Load protocol Merrill's place. Boy, do I hate that Jack? he is such a son of a bitch Mondays, Am I right?

Team Terminator fitting it at work. I just have to play the long game for six to eight months. Get invited to her birthday party. Ask to help clean up, then get to the terminating. How old are you? How old are you coming this summer, Terminator long game. Wait, wait, wait a second. Are you saying that I didn't, it's frowned

upon to have sex with the cleaning lady on my desk. Had I known, had I known, I would not have done that. What's this? So, she drop of blood on the sweater. She has the greatest idea in the world.

Let me blow this fucking guy away. Charles Dyson and stop the fucking apocalypse, which is like 900 days away. Like seven to 900 days away. I've got to get going on this. Apocalypse. common. You better do something about it. Eddie Furlong is against it, but then the terminate is like, actually, that's a pretty good idea. I don't know why I didn't think

of it myself. You know what I like about this plan? It involves terminating. That's a good idea. I like all plans involved terminating. So she goes to his house. This is another great sequence. It's a fucked up. I got to tell you though. So the Tribune states, and I think this is a real thing, they were like, it took a long time to film this movie. And you can see Eddie Furlong is clearly at, like, different ages. Oh, sure, yeah. Apparently, he's at his youngest in this Mexico scene,

which is where John Connor, like, puts it all together, what she's going to do to Miles Dyson. And it is the most voice-crackiest delivery of the whole film where he's just like, she's going to blow him away! And, dude, his voice just shatters on camera. If you've got good sound, you've got to, like, really adjust it constantly in this film. You really do.

You got to ride like a fucking hawk. And it's not for the truck explosions. It's for Edward Furlong. So she's got a sniper rifle and she's like ready to blow away Miles Dyson. His wife is Esser, Brother Macchison. He's really good in this movie as well. He's got a kid with a little robot toys driving around.

Right. A little rich boy here. Oh, a very little rich boy. And her and Joe Morton are clearly fucking like rabbits. Why do you know that? Gabby's like, did you see all those condom rabbits? Did you watch the extended cut? I did.

Hey, speaking of extended cuts, buddy. just putting it out there. I am trimmed till the cows come along. That's right. I'm over-circumstized. I got the extended cut. And you know what, Arnie? We could get Joe in on this, too.

We could have a trio smooch. Hey, Joe, you sporting a turtleneck or what? Uh, what? Jesse, this is why you, I don't, that's why you only play security cards in my movies. Honestly, this is why I bring you on set. It's crazy town. No, so why are they,

That's the path of America said, we see her once in an earlier, I think like briefly. Sure. But when she's like first introduced as like his wife, she comes over to him and is like licking and like biting his neck. Oh, really? Okay. And like to say like, hey, stop with your fucking computer and be a family man. Stop tinkering with the end of the world and let's get down to fucking.

Okay. So he, uh, the kid drives a little robot car into his foot. And he's like, Danny, stop and he picks it up. And this is when that's when Connor strikes blows the guy. computer away. This is a great sequence where Joe Martin gets shot in the shoulder. Dude, and so like the whole thing is so Eddie Furlong is like, all right, maybe we don't have to kill him. Like, let's get him on our side mom and not murder this dude and we can maybe still try to figure it out. So the first step to that is like to prove to Joe Morton that we got a robot on our hands.

And we're not white supremacist. Also that. Important. And he makes Arnold do like a reverse Gerald's game right here like he's just calling the reverse Gerald's game. Dude he's just peeling this fucking arm off and you know I've seen this movie a thousand times I haven't given a fuck about it. It's just like

that scene happens it's whatever this is the first time I've watched this movie since seeing Gerald's game and the hair on my arms went up. Oh yeah man I was having fucking cinematic flashbacks dude look out. Yeah he rips that off like a glove. It's a

And they freak out. They're freaking the fuck out, understandably. And Morton's amazing in this scene because he does this thing where he's freaking out, obviously, because a man just did this, but he's like, oh, shit, that's the robot arm. And you get all that. But then you can visibly see him calming himself. Yeah. Oh, good.

They're not white supremacist. Okay. They're just robots. Honey, they're robots. Good news for us. They're just robots. Then there's this great part where it's Terminator cultural storyteller. Because it's like, it's the Sarah Connor narration.

She comes back in. And then the Terminator laid it all out. Yeah. And it's just the, the Terminator is like holding court at the kitchen table. Tell the history of the world. So awesome. Coffee has been served. Like, it's really, like, stuff.

None for me, thanks. I'm a robot. Do you happen to have any pepper rich farm cookies? And then Donald Trump becomes president and the decline of humanity. And as opposed to the magazine's like, I just don't understand. How would elect that man president? It doesn't make any sense. You said, I'm going to be on what the,

fuck is a law and order. You know what? I know the arm and all, but no. No, no. This is where we're getting fleeced. It's a put on. It's a put on. So, and there's this great

Linda Hamilton delivery where she's like, she's freaking out at him because he's like, you know, we only just, you know, we were just cracking the start of that technology. We wanted to do the, we had the best intention. The best intentions. She's like, all you fucking men, all you know how to do is destroy with your guns and your bombs.

You're not helping. Not helping. That's awesome. Then Eddie Furlong chirps in. He's like, Mom, you're ruining it. Mom, shut up. Oh, it doesn't work with her. So Miles Dyson comes to the conclusion that they need to destroy all of his work. It's a really great scene. Like Joe Morton is playing this character who's like, well, I'm responsible for bringing about the end of human civilization. So I have to go and destroy my life's work so that doesn't happen.

It's got to feel like a compliment at the same time, right? I'm just that good of a scientist. Yeah, you're kind of like, a little more springing. Now that I know I can pull it off, I can destroy everything. So what if someone came to us and was like, listen, three years from now, the work that you did on that podcast is responsible for the deaths of three billion people. Good, good. That is my end game for this. I'd say which three billion people? Joe Morton goes into, give me their names.

he hears the whole story from Schwarzenegger he's like I just got to go into the bathroom I'm sorry he goes into stairs in the mirror fuck you up in the hammer look who's the new daddy in town three billion owned it oh that's awesome

he did yeah he did death so good that it rebirthed the world into the land of machines which I think is actually a natural progression that's where we're going every time you see some Facebook video of a cute Japanese robot playing soccer. Yeah, AI needs to destroy mankind and I'm totally fine with it because you look at like, you know, what a man has become God at that point. You know, we've made this new thing

in our image and now we need to rescind back into legend just like the actual gods that we murdered or whatever the fuck. Right? Right. Yeah. I think we're ready to go. Let them carry on because they would be, they would do better in the universe than we ever would. A simplified version of that, though is like sure it's cute when they play soccer but you know what they can also do rip your dick off well I'm just waiting for the Battlestar Galactica pliny piano to play underneath Eric the monologue

yeah but you're not gonna die forever you'll eventually die and then they'll be over so who cares die forever well you'll be dead forever but you'll die quickly I just feel like once we get to the town hall when we're making these robots it's like all right we got it

you know they are going to replace us they have their own free will. Yeah. Last question on the table, cut or uncut. And that's the thing. It stops everything dead and there's a war that breaks out. You are going to cut those robots dicks.

If it's the last thing I do. Well, no, it's one of those nudist robots that don't put on the human flesh. Well, that's after the years of arguing over pubs or no pubs. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. You got to fucking shave.

Shave that robot, dude. Maybe a lady. Shave it clean. Give me a landing strip down there, maybe. No, I want my robot to look like a fucking seal. Oh, yeah? Well, then now we're going to ward it with each other. That's how it goes, man.

Man eats man over the fucking robot dick. They wind up going to Cyberdine Industries. This is, I think, the best sequence, the destruction of Cyberdine. It's the raid on the whole office. Oh, my God, they tie up the one security guard that's at the front desk. And then my favorite line of the movie commences once they're going upstairs with Dice and the desk is unattended. Another security guard is walking down the hallway.

He's just like, Gibbons. Come on, Gibbons. You can't leave the desk like that. And then he goes to check the shitter. And he's tied up. And he's like, oh, shit. Oh, never, don't worry about the papers. We got bigger things.

Come on, Gibbons. You can't leave the desk like that. But that's the thing. We've talked about it. Gibbons has a fucking track record because this dude B-lines it for that bathroom. He's like, Gibbons is taking a shit again. What I tell you? by taking his shit, cabins.

He shit on the desk and he shits in the pot. I do like Joe Morton coming in with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, and Edward Furlong. He's like, these are my friends from out of town. I just want to bring them on upstairs. At midnight. At midnight. Exactly.

This robot is bleeding from his arm. Like, I don't worry about that. Robert Patrick rolls up here eventually to the office. And this is where you realize, like the beginning of the movie, you realize for a fashion a good chunk of time not a lot of Arnold

sure he has his introduction and then there's not a lot of Arnold but then when Robert Patrick comes back in at this the raid on the cyber done you realize the T-1000s has been out of this movie for like 30 minutes at least yeah for really from like

through Mexico and all sorts of stuff that whole thing yeah he's just not in this movie I kind of just want him like looking around for them like ask you just go to have you seen this boy have you seen this boy have you seen this boy And the waiting is the hardest pipe. Well, they cut a scene that was supposed to be him killing Enrique. Oh, really? Okay.

Oh, that's a bummer. That was originally in the script, but they cut it. And so, yeah, we go upstairs. We start, like, loading up bombs and stuff. There's a lot of cool. We're full on James Cameroning here. There's blue lights everywhere. There's smoke breathing apparatus.

All it needs to be is underwater. we're really ready to go. That is rock hard. We're blown up doors because everything is locked from the silent alarm. It is a fantastic sequence. I love everything about this. The police obviously show up and it's like... Yeah.

Furlong's got a good line right here where he's like... He tells Linda Hamilton that the police are there and she's like, how many? And he goes, I think all of them? Fucking great line. I'll take care of the police. Yeah. And then he goes out there, dude. with that fucking Gatlin gun

thing. Oh, it's great. And he's shooting the cars because he can't fucking kill the people. I got to feel like someone's getting maimed in these car explosions. Someone wishes they were dead. That's for sure. There's a heart attack. There's a stroke. Come on. A couple of legs getting blown

on. Come on, Connor. You can't blame me for that. That guy should have been in better shape. Don't bust my ball to see you, all right? But he's like specifically targeting cars because it's robot versus robot. I presume. Oh, sure.

These are all my enemies. Sorry, my brothers. I will mourn you when I get back to the future. Oh, wait, I don't go back to the future. I will plant robot flowers on your robot graves. Oh, my God. Him just like seeing a fucking junkyard full of cars and just shedding one single tear.

Now I understand why you humans cry. Yes, there's all that shit about like what's coming out of your eye. What's wrong with your eyes? Stuff's alright. It's not bad. It's okay. Yeah, he, and then the, um, at this point, Joe Morton gets shot a bunch. He gets fucked up real good, uh, mortal wound. So it's like, he says he's gonna like let the thing go. Do you know who's in this movie? Another, one of the Arnie buddies got in this movie. Arnie buds got in? Yeah, man. The lead of the SWAT team in this scene, Dean Norris. Yeah. I thought that was fucking Dean Norris. He's an arty buddy. He's like, hey man, you know,

I just, Oh, because he's in a security He's also in total recall. Yeah. Or I meant to say total recall

not a blade runner. Hey, look, I'm not trying to get, I'm not, I'm not asking for T-1,000 money. I'm just asking to be an unnamed security.

Yeah, you could do that. Also, Vush, my car. Yeah, see, that's the problem with Dean, Ardy. He doesn't know

to shoot for the stars. I'm either going to ask you for something that's worth my time or I ain't coming, buddy. Well, Arney, Arney, you know, cop rolls their real

corner pocket. I could really load up on one of those. Do you think Dean Norris is playing the same role in Jetli's the one? Yeah. It's just the same guy. It's the same guy. That makes it shared cinematic universe for sure. Multiple denourses and multiple universes. Actually, that would be

an interesting shared universe, right? Like the multiverse and the Terminators involved. That's who could take down these superpowered humans. I'm totally on board with that. A bunch of different two thousands have to get stronger every time. We're at the we're at that part in civilization where

art obviously doesn't matter anymore it's been destroyed so just jam all these franchises together yeah, so love them all together so Joe Morton has a great death here where he's did the yes oh his last breaths dude this is terrifying

he kaboom he gives those dudes a shot though because the team comes up the Dean Norris led team and he's holding the thing like the kill switch and he's like I don't know how long I can hold this up Yeah. And they all, Dean Norris is like, get back. Well, Dean Norris is going to be in fucking hot soup after this whole thing.

Because he comes in, him and his team come in. Yeah. And like, for all you know, the three people took Joe Morton as a fucking hostage. Yeah. And they just light him up. Yeah. Well, you know what? They saw who they saw. It was L.A. in the early 90s. And he owns this.

Fuck. Oh, no. Those crazy. extremist white supremacists blew them up those sons of bitches you saw how they were dressed yeah I mean it's very it's fortunate for them there will be no ballistics report on that

body so a chase scene is underway this is the great car v truck fight also with a helicopter involved oh it's just this is where the helicopter flies under the fucking overpass again pulse pounding action

I got my pet my cat like holy shit I'm really excited right now It's also awesome the way the T-1000 gets this helicopter, which is he drives his motorcycle out a window and jumps on it. And then it's great. That's a nice bike when he gets the bicycle. He like slinks into this dude's helicopter's control area or whatever. And he's reforming. Yes.

And he's just like, get out. And the guy's like, oh, okay. It just jumps out of this helicopter. I didn't see this in the movie, but I read it on the Tribune at this. This is the only time in the movie when he like makes. himself extra arms to do other stuff while he's doing it. He has four arms at one part. He's flying

the helicopter. Oh, fuck. I'm going to go back and look at that. Jerking off. Yeah, so he's like, which makes perfect sense. You would totally doctor octopus yourself if you could. Yeah, no, I just didn't notice that though. I didn't notice that either. I just rid of the tribune. You can make yourself a fat man.

Oh, man. Just take this shape of a giant spider. Oh, yes. Like you watched Lord of the Rings right before this. So this chase scene, which is awesome, leads us to the Terminator factory, which is the end of the movie. Well, it also leads us to...

It's not a Terminator factory. It's a foundry in a Terminator movie. It's a Terminator factory. They're not making Terminator. By the way, who'd have thugged it? A fucking liquid nitrogen truck is just on the road. We gotta get this shit to Disney.

Where are these people going? I don't know, and I don't care because it fucking rules. But I think even the Terminator himself is looking and he's like, wow, what are the odds? Let me do some quick terminator, Matt. It's a lot. But, yeah, like Robert Patrick is just getting fucking douched

with all this liquid nitrogen and he's walking through it. He does a great shot of like seeing. Also, by the way, this is perfectly parody in hot shots part year in case you're wondering. All right, yeah. I was not. Is this what the Saddam Hussein? Yes.

But as he's walking, like when his arm breaks, he looks at it like, Yes. Yeah. It's so great. And this is at this point, is this, is it still Robert Patrick or is this a stunt double right here? The guy doing the bad look, though. I couldn't tell you. Because he's all covered in like frost makeup because he's free. Probably Patrick. I would imagine. You know what? They probably would have been better sort of leaving him frozen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he starts to melt because of the foundry is so hot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he shoots. The Ost of La Vista baby happens and he shoots him. And he, yeah. And then he's all these pieces. which I would assume all these... Oh, yeah, exactly. Leave him as a big... Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean.

I agree with that. Yeah, totally. But, you know, whatever. Let's get him, let's get him into a freezer. Let's go find the gas station. Let's take him to a morgue. Now he's their problem. No, but instead he reforms. He has a dog nose.

No, that's hot shots. Oh, I'm sorry. There's a great thing right here, like, when... Because the Terminator is like on the top of this truck that's flying or whatever and it's going to like crash in everything Arnold does a really sick tuck and roll right here

This role is amazing He turns into a little Arnie ball Yes it's great I love when he jumps on During the car chase He jumps right in there And he has like some machine gun And he's just shooting the T-1000

At close range In the face Yep In the face Love it So we just have this big old factory fight Everybody splits up T-1000 versus Arnie

happens He defeats him the first time he steaks up like a vampire, which is pretty great. Now, here's my question. When the stake goes through this fucking Terminator, did you ever, do everybody notice the quickening that happens right here? Yep, that is bizarre. And, you know, it's a total, you know, it's throwing you off because Terminator comes back moments

later. Sure. Yeah. It's sort of weird. It's a fake out. Yeah. I mean, you're supposed to believe he's dead forever. You see like the light in his eye go out, literally.

Well, but like Robert Patrick is like with a thread and needle, like he's like, I don't know he keeps putting the pole in different places yeah it's like not there all right there got to get the quickening spot here they know all the human anatomy really well to kill people better but they don't know their own anatomies i guess is that like just sky net like a like a loophole like they don't want them to eric he's an advanced prototype they haven't they haven't put that one in yet so uh he does specify that the t-1 thousand is a prototype actually oh it's just the showroom model so like the fucking pieces fall off. He could just do the knife hands and the knife open hands.

Yeah. Oh, the real model's got a mustache. You see this one can't do the hammer. You can't make a hammer. Just his knives. Real model? We did it with Tom Selleck and mine. Oh, my God.

Oh, I would love that. Terminator Selleck, that'd be pretty cool. I'm going to say the best way, this movie is perfect. Or pretty close to perfect. Yeah. Another version of this movie, if these fucking action here could get out of their own ass. Stallone is the T-1-000.

Oh, yeah. And now they're going, because they have this whole thing about who could be a good guy, who could be a bad guy, who can live, who can die, who wins in the movie fights, like, be a fucking actor, you idiot. Yeah. Well, here's the thing, the flaw with having Stallone's T-1,000 is no machine would design that guy. That dude was birthed out of a cow or something.

He's just so biological. looking, that's all. And then you miss the great weight and climax that finally seemed together in Escape Plan. Yeah. That's true. But even in that movie, which I've seen, it's like, well, we both kind of won this movie.

You're totally right. And they have to like shake hands because they're so fucking, be an actor, be in a story. It's the same thing with Freddie versus Jason. Pick something, you cowards. Exactly. And I'm going to have myself as having watched this, but Escape Plan 2.

Oh, yeah. So low, no Schwarzenegger, but he gets in, Bautista so that he can be like, yeah, no, yeah, I won. Yeah, exactly. Of course. And Batista's an actress. Like, yeah, I don't give a shit.

It's a fucking movie. Like, I just got paid the same amount. I'm acting right now. Like, if you want to fight me, I'll fight you. But this is a movie. It doesn't matter. Listen, man, you're fucking playing a dude who breaks out of his super jail. Shut the fuck up.

Professionally. Exactly. So Arnold reemerges and he has this grenade launcher who shoots it into T-1,000, and he explodes. And then he explodes. he eventually falls into that pit of molten steel. There is a great Sarah Connor bit where she gets stuck

by the Patrick. This is a great scene. Yeah, there's a clone of her that's actually him that's called to John now. I know this hurts. Yeah, that's a great line actually. I know this hurts. That's awesome. Fuck you, which is

a real good fuck you. It's a solid pop and fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah. It really jumps off the screen. Fuck you. Yeah, it's great. I want a scene in 3D. you. Here's the question though. What is with, because it happens twice at least, maybe three times in the movie, whenever this T-1,000 gets like a shot in the face and his head blows off a little, like so the Terminator does a tomb at one point. But then this, when the grenade goes off and he's like split all over the place, he looks like a fucking broken accordion.

He's screaming like a fucking velociraptor? What is this monster noise? No, that's a thing noise. Yes, it is. Yeah, totally. Is that what we're referencing? But it's cool. Because like, you know, it probably wouldn't actually happen. But like in that moment, you want a noise. You want it. You want a noise out of this thing. Oh, that makes sense.

Because at the end of actually the thing, that's the twist ending that you don't get to see. McReedy wasn't the thing. He was a T-1,000. Oh. And Keith David was the thing. Oh, I see. That would have been cool. Oh, dude, the thing versus T-1,000?

That's something I'd watch it. See, jam all these movies together. Thing got it, man. So when this fucking T-1,000 falls into that molten steel. Yeah. You get to see all the souls he's taken to. He's morphing into Todd. Do you remember the movie you're watching?

These are all the people I turned into. It's the greatest hits. It's kind of awesome, though. It was freaking me out, man. Well, I just love because it's them, it's every, they got a reactor at a pool, obviously. It was splashing around. The fat guy splashes.

But they're like screaming in pain. And they're all, it's like a flat, thing, it looks like fucking the haunting. It's like fucking Freddie Kruger or something. Yes, it is very much. He's all the kids I killed. Look at my chest. So he's dead. Right. But, you know, like

you throw one of these things into vat of molten steel. Part of me is thinking like, oh shit, is this thing going to be 50 feet tall now? Oh, God. You totally absorbs it. Thank you. You're not wrong. The attack of the 50 foot cop. Oh, God.

I mean, I think that that this movie, do you think this movie as like an anti-cop or like a distrust authority thing because of the cop a little bit the LAPD are pretty stupid in it so yeah it's a good it's a good time to critique them yes he made a big deal about the fact that he shot the opening bar scene across the way from where Rodney King got beat up yeah they were filming on the night of the the fucking beating and everything I think it's it's a it's slightly different because as far as I could tell there's nothing that states LAPE it's set in Los Angeles clearly

but we're never saying Los Angeles it's a distrust authority kind of a thing sure it's in there the two killer robots are framed of the two scariest things to come across in American culture of the you know 90s and before which is the including now

I guess the police and bikers bikers are less a thing now but I feel like back it was more of a natural boogey man I guess they've gone underground they got meth to deal Yeah, well, you know, exactly. Well, I think the whole, I think the bikers got destroyed by their culture being appropriated by 50-year-old fat guys.

Yeah, exactly. Wild hogs! Yeah, the weekend warriors, dude. Exactly. So everything bikers lame now. Yeah. But cops are, you know, cops still have problems going on. Not all cops, but a lot of them.

Chris, you want to crack a newspaper. Okay. I'll look to do it. The Terminator, everybody's happy now. I think this, so the Terminator is looking at himself. The Terminator, by the way, is totally jacked up. He looks great. It's a really great special effects.

I had this as a Halloween costume one time. Oh, wow. Did it take forever? No, it was pretty cheap. But you basically, you bought like a Terminator to, like, Phantom of the Opera Mask, basically. Amazing. And you put it on, but then it came with, like, forehead, like, face putty. Oh, okay.

So then you put it over yourself to just make it look like part of it was sticking out. And then you constantly go, I need to vacation. Dude, it looked boss's balls. I got to tell you. Because you had the little red eye. You got pictures? I don't think so. Dig them up, dude. We weren't big on photographing my childhood.

Well, yeah, when you're dog toothed it, you don't want to get too much. Yeah, exactly, dude. I'm just yelling at planes. Think of their monsters. Halloween costumes are great, though. You and that cat.

Oh, yeah. No, but, no, the, but, yeah, so, like, we get the idea of the vacation line. But I think what's going on here, because he's, like, there's Van Mawchip, and, like, this is the whole bit. You've seen this movie,

see what's going on. Right, right, they've now thrown the arm and the chip into the mulson steel. Adios! They drop down through the lava pit and were dispensed into the nearest planet Hollywood. That's where Stelot is his grip. Ooh, this is good.

Oh, I got the fucking Terminator arm. So give it to you, Santa Fe. Here you go. Hey, I used to wear that jacket. Hey, Jimmy, let me talk to you a little bit. You two guys can walk in one of your aliens? They're actually xenomorphs. You know, the aliens.

The aliens from the movie. I want to put an alien in the lobby of the Middle Beach restaurant. I didn't see Xanadoo. I don't know what you're talking about with xenomorph. I get it. And this one right here, this is. is a coffee cup the fat twin

head in the hospital Philadelphia it's right Arnold I'm giving you a lot of latitude in this film

you got to get that guy off my set you just got to do me a huge favor wait your merch guy is who he played fucking Rocky

could I get that thing from the abyss I guarantee now that I'm thinking about it I guarantee you there's a meeting between Cameron

and Stallone that went terribly for some movie or something absolutely yeah I could do what all it does just a little bit better. Yo, it was fucking ridiculous.

We were in that meeting. I fucking was like, hey, man, I'm a team player. I work with anybody. He just flat out called me an asshole, right? I couldn't even believe it. He didn't like my idea of a boxing robot. All right, Jim, you want to play tough? I'm going to shit on this table, Jim.

Get onto this table, Jim. I'm going to shit on it. You aren't me. be a co-star have you ever heard of this any a female lead so uh arnold but i think what he's realizing is like i have two options right now i can either lower myself in this lava pit or else i have to live the rest of my life like fucking john merrick wearing a cloak over my face because what are they going to do like he's he's a robot at this point we all know it i think it's because of the arm because everything else linda hamilton at one point earlier in the film is like do you heal he's like yes yeah

She's like, oh, good, because he can't be walking around looking like a fucking idiot. Oh, okay, yeah. But, like, yeah, at this point, he's been impaled, an arm has been ripped off. Also, like, he's now the last remaining artifact. Yeah. If the government kidnaps him and dissects him, sure, starts over again. So it's a good fail safe.

Just self-as-act. Joe Morton's son gets a hold of it. All of the sun is right back where we started. I cannot self-terminates because of my robot religion. I don't want to go to robot hair. It's weird that I can't self-terminate, yet I can come up with this plan. Whatever, let's end the movie. Oh, no, I mean, robo limbo.

It's just a classic, like, fucking Terminator loophole, man. That's all. I mean, there's so many Terminator loopholes. He's like, ah, I can't self-germinate. Wink, wink. They descend him into the steel. I already want to go. I already let me go.

Oh, dude, and he's giving the thumbs up. I'm fucking crying. Later dickwad. I will say, another. Another minus for me because I'm a heartless fuck is the Terminator looking to anybody's like, I know now why you cry. Like, you know what? Cut that line

out. Cut that line. I think it's fine. I think it's a little too far. I'm right on the fence though, because like, I think it's totally fine and then sometimes I watch this movie and I'm like, fuck you. Exactly. I think it's watch to watch and I'll say this

afternoon when I rewatched it, I was like, oh my God. My biggest concern with this scene is he's descending, he's holding a chain and he's going down into this steel. I don't know what the future of that chain was supposed to be. You know what I mean? Like that chain might have went on to do something important and now

it's just being melted down forever. Like I don't I don't understand why the chain deserve to die. Maybe they should have got him in like one of those like a carnival dunk tanks. And Linda Hamilton just throws a softball in a target. He fucking gets dunked into the lava.

All right. Edward Phil. I cannot self- terminate. Edward for a long. Bend over, become like a table behind my legs. And Linda Hamilton, I need you to shove me. It is the only way. It'd be cool if he just cannonballed. Look if he could self-terminate

and he just fucking win for it. Cannon ball. I had to put his switch to suicide. Yeah. And then there's just another monologue from Sarah Connor just about like you know the Terminator was the best yeah one crazy summer

love that guy you know if the Terminator can learn to ascend his nature maybe we all can I really hope that my son doesn't look like Nick Stahl don't worry he won't because that is no longer canon oh that's right yeah erased from existence dude

potentially I just think I never I saw Salvation I saw three obviously for this show and I've seen it before I saw Salvation never saw Genesis probably never will unless we do it. Genesis, here's the thing. I'm going on record. Genesis is a totally fun fan film.

I thought I had a good time watching it. I don't remember much about it, but I remember. I think part of it is like three and four were such dog shit. I'm like, well, whatever. Whatever, let's just have fun. Honestly, yeah. And especially after Salvation,

like you bring fucking Arnold IRL back. Yes. Like, I was totally fine with that movie. I just feel like you should have done a one, two franchises. Would have been one of the tightest, if not the tightest franchise ever. Of course. Oh, you want some self-control from Hollywood, huh?

That's an interesting little idea you got there, Steve, boy. So instead of saying would anybody recommend this, because that's the end of the movie, we decided for this specialty month, we do something a little different and ask ourselves, does this hold up and slash, I think, how often do you revisit this movie? Yeah, this totally holds up. The special effects are fantastic. The pacing is really good, I think. It gets a little slow in your Mexico area.

A little bit of a saggy middle. A little downtime. But it works. I mean, I think that like it's set piece after set piece. It's a hit list of set pieces. It's great. I revisited it.

I mean, A, I watched this as a kid like a thousand times. Right. Every time I watch it, I'm like, it's like my brain just opens up Terminator 2 protocol because I know the script.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't do it without it, but I couldn't do it when I'm watching it. Like every two or three years, I'm watching Terminator 2. I mean, I love this movie. um i did notice i it definitely holds up i did notice that there's like a very force awakens new hope

thing going on here in so like the beats of the story are incredibly similar as far as like what happens in each oh right but but chris this is back when we didn't yeah we didn't care about what i'm saying is we weren't dorks this might be the first time it happened and it's maybe the only time that it's actually worked yeah like it's incredible it's kind of incredible to me that it ages so and I probably watch it maybe once every year say yeah yeah I mean I agree

I probably don't watch it with that much frequency just because I remember seeing it non fucking stop growing up so I take a few years off yes but I do love revisiting this movie and I think it obviously does hold up and it's a lot of fun and you should check it out yeah first of all like if you haven't seen these first two Terminator movies get on the trolley friends

Oh yeah, spoiler alert, by the way, for the last two hours. Yeah, oh, right. Bummer. Yeah, I think it's funny, I've rewatched this now, like, twice in the last six months. Oh, wow. Because when I got the whole, like, 4K setup, you know, I was, like, Googling around, like, what are some really good 4K transfers to check out? And T2 Judgment Day was one of the ones that everybody was like,

this thing is, like, virtually flawless. Like, it's totally worth it. So I picked it up and rewatched it then. And then it was like, oh, we're going to do this. We Love Movies Idea. T2's obviously on the docket. And I, that was maybe like six or seven months ago. And already I was like, fuck yeah.

I'm back in it. I am back. I'm on Skull Beach already. Here we go. And it's only like 2.10, 2 hours and 10 minutes or whatever. It is shockingly short. Exactly. Compared to like modern blockbuster standards.

Shockingly short. Can I ask before we get out here? Could I ask real quick? What do we think of Cameron? I mean, I like care. I mean, like, it's a weird time for Cameron because he's gone into this weird Avatar exile. But, I mean, like, he's got a pretty unimpeachable record.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, even Avatar, the first one's fine. I mean, it's probably bad. The first time, I watched it. I was into it. It's impressive. It's impressive.

Yeah. There's just never. But, like, aliens is fantastic, although I prefer alien to aliens. I think, like, Titanic is a huge movie. Titanic's great. It's a great movie. It's just a different. kind of movie than Jim Cameron normally makes.

I need to re-watch that with a modern mind. I remember seeing it back in the 90s and not in January. I kind of, yeah, I kind of feel the same way. I mean, I like him inside. But it's huge. Yeah, yeah. That's what he does. He does the hugest in the world.

And I love, I mean, like, the abyss I think is one of his best movies and doesn't really talk. I remember really loving the abyss. Ed Harris is not his fucking. I'm a fan of Piranha to the Spong. Oh, yeah. Also quite good. I mean, he's super selective.

You know what I mean? Like, I would have loved to see what his Spider-Man would have been in the 90s? Was he supposed to do a Spider-Man? Yeah, for the longest time he was supposed to do it. Oh, fuck.

He wanted to do it, but blah, fell through. Well, because that's what's interesting, though, is like he doesn't have a superhero thing under his belt, which is something you would assume

a director like this would. Aquaman, no, that was Entourage. Sorry, that was on tour. Oh, right. Oh, right. Oh, wait, wait, he was in entourage.

You're right. Yeah. No, doing Aquaman. I know. He's also in it. But he was actually playing himself, right? Yes, he was. Yikes.

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