S9 Ep413: Episode 413 - Pet Sematary (with Griffin Newman)
00:00This week on the program, it's the motto of my life.Dead is better.It's Pet Cemetery. I'm Andrew Jupin.Stephen Siddack. Chris Cabin.Eric Siska.And I'm Griffin Newman.And we hate movies.Hello, everyone. Welcome to the program. Thank you for tuning in as always. And you may have heard four fat guys. And then a fifth guy who you may not know, welcoming to the program, Griffin Newman. And I'm very little. He's very much tinier. It's like you're like a little.
00:59You're like a fifth of us.I'm like Miko Hughes size.Very fitting.I was, I had, the movie we were discussing today, I had never seen before.Right.And watching this, I got angry being like, how did I not get to read for this part in the remake?They wouldn't have to use a dummy.I could be like the stunt version, but I think they gender flipped.
01:22Oh, yes.Yes, they did.Which they do in the trailer, which like that is the thing you put in your back pocket.So if you're the audience member, you're like,like, oh, I know Pet Cemetery.You're like, why do they do it in Pet Cemetery?But now it's the trailer, and I'm like,I don't want to see that movie.
01:36And I had seen several trailers to the movie before,had never seen this original film,thought the new one looks good.It does.And then, like, two days ago,I caught the newest trailer where they give away the daughter.Right before I watched this movie for the first time,I would have been blown away.
01:54Totally blown away.Exactly.We're recording a couple weeks before us comes out,a couple days for us because I saw us the newest us trailer which is like 41 minutes long and I'm in the theater like literally covering my eyes like oh that's a scary cat like no no I just want to watch the movie when it comes out like I don't need the 12 minute trailer you're very sensitive about that oh I'm a spoiler phoom if I tell you who's starring in a movie you get really angry Steve likes to go and cold I like to go in fresh what would you do if I spoiled us for you right now in the air I would leave this I would leave this partnershipIt's actually them.At the end of the movie, it turns out it was them.Well, I don't even know if I want to say thisbecause I feel like you'll get upset
02:34if I tell a story about getting upsetabout reading something on the internet.But I saw someone today being like,I forget who, but an online critic sayinglike, after seeing us, Elizabeth Mossis definitely my choice to play the next Joker.And someone said, spoilers.And their response was, not a spoiler,
02:56I can tell you, she doesn't play the Jokerand it's like, okay, you're being funnyand it's not like I know exactly what that means.Right.But I also know there's at least one scene in the moviewhere Elizabeth Moss does something Joker-esque.Yes.She might not be the villain.
03:12Right.She might not become possessed.I mean, who knows what the Alchem is,but it's like in a horror moviewhere like I don't know what's going to happen to anyone.Yeah.I know how Elizabeth Moss gets twisted.Or she's going to wear a boutonier
03:24that's going to be very nefarious.to be very, very, very wary of that.Or she just, she just has face tattoos.Also, though.She might, she might just be very well dressed.I feel like people don't talk about that enough.Jokker's very well dressed.He is, he is impeccably dressed almost in every iteration.
03:38Every iteration.I don't know, man, for me, it gets a little clownish.Oh, that's awesome.He's like the clown prince of crime.I just saw her smell at Southby.Spoiler, she does.In that movie, in that movie, I had the thought she could play the Joker.Yeah, see, interesting, right.
03:58Yeah.And saying that isn't any kind of spoiler,because it's not a horror move.But what's weird is having seen us, like, last week,now I'm thinking, what the hell is that guy talking about?So it's based in nothing.Yeah, it's totally based in nothing.That's very strange.
04:11Because you do see, in her smell,it's like she hits a certain level of, like, manic intensitywhere you're like, she could play.So is the Joker smell good or bad?It's like kind of like a mix of like B.O. and wine cooler.Does she have a henchman in her,Mel.Yes.
04:27Okay.There's definite henchmen.She actually does.She does.She's got sort of like a cadre of like.Yeah, there's a posse.Okay.The guy who helps Jessica Jones out in her roommate or whatever.
04:40Oh, yes.That's the dude.She sort of got like it kind of feels like a traveling circus.Like she's got like a sort of phony shaman around her and musicians.It's a great movie.It's an excellent film.The film today, by the way, Pet Cemetery from 1989, directed.by Mary Lambert.
04:58But before we get to it,I think we should plug awaybecause we like hanging out of you.We were on blank checkwith Griffin and David.Two down two to go.Yes.Yeah.
05:07We had a great time.We were talking.What do we talk about?We're talking about the total recall.We're talking about it.Come on.Yeah.All right.
05:13Come on.It looks like his recallwasn't total.Well, that's the marijuana.But big news.Just in like a few short weeksat this point?Or it's out like right now.
05:23No days.We're recording this in advance.But in a few days.The Tick season two.Yes.Well, I think these two thingswill be coming outaround the same exact time.
05:31Yes.Yes.It's quickly approaching.It's something we filmeda while ago.What are we talking?Like a year and a half, a year ago?Like five.
05:42I read that you have this intensity in itthat you could possibly play the Joker.I get a little twisted.I get a little twisted this season.No, we filmed it like nine months agoand a lot of that is just TV is weird now.Yeah.Because there's no, like, traditional...
06:01There's no structure to it.It's the Wild West of television.It's the Wild West, really.And I think they took more time on the effects this timebecause last time we were super rushed.And I think everything looks really great.Yeah.But it's been in the similar.
06:14I've just been, like, sitting on it for a whileand I couldn't really talk about it.Yeah.But I think the new season's really good.One of the things I'm really excited about in this new seasonis we have, like, monsters.On the show.Nice.
06:26Because, like, season one, it was, like, human villains.Yeah, yeah.Jack Gittle Hill is kind of a monster, though, right?Monsterish.Yeah.He's monsterish.I mean, at the end of the day, who is a greater monster than man?But we have, like, creatures.
06:40Yeah.Oh, that's awesome.And it's really fun to work with, like, you know, like a 6'5 Russian stunt guy, you know, who's just like, we have this creature who is.We're talking to tentacles?We're talking.It's a lobster creature.I don't think I can say the name of the creature, but it's like a man-sized lobster, walks up right, has all the little arms that pop out of its chest, and then big claws for hands.And those claws may not be handy when it comes to breaking through bank vaults.
07:11Oh, there it is.There it is.But the thing, the mouth sort of like has these tendrils that move and the eyes move around.It's all like animatronics.Practical effects, man.Super practical.That's what I like about the showis I like the character design
07:26It's very, you guysA really good production designThank you, I can't take any credit for thatBut I agree with itNo, the acting is terribleThe acting is awesomeThe performance is a wreckingYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
07:38Were you trying to get laughs?No, no, no, no, I was trying to get fired.Oh, okay, that's it.Not my kind of show.Yeah, I didn't want it.They're holding me against my will.No, but it also is like, as a kid,like, I grow up like
07:52I want to be in the pics.I want to make TV and then you work on so many things where you're like this is boring like there's just like a green screen behind me and actors are lazy and they don't do their scenes with youyou know like they're like so many dispiriting things and it's great to be on like a show where it's like we have big sets and like extras wearing uniforms and like that's cool man cool props and and this this creature um so it's this uh stunt guy who plays the creature on the show has to give like a performance yeahYou know, because he's not, like, doubling for someone else who's carrying the emotional weight of the creature.And it's not a mop with, like, a ball on its head, like, creature coming later.Right, right.There's a real physical thing that we're interacting with.But he has to be very deliberate, not just in the choreography, but in, like, you know, how he conveys the emotions of the character and the intense of the character and everything.
08:43And there was a day where I was doing a scene with him up, like, up close and we were inside and it was really hot.And everyone's, like, sweating all the time.all the costumes were like not very breathable and when we're filming on our soundstages it's like 40 degrees they make it like an icebox it's like hatefully where we're alllike the entire crew is like bundled up with scarves in July and then the actors are allwearing these really dense costumes and sweating so there's this like amazing disparityand so I'm really close up to the lobster creature and I was just like admiring the howincredible the design is lost his eyes right right right
09:21and the eyes moving and the tendrils moving the mouth.God, this is so amazing.And look, they even loaded in some sort of like dummy saliva.There was like goop coming off.Are you sure that was dummy?The tentals of the mouth.It was his sweat.Oh, no.
09:35All this poor bastard.I was like, this is incredible.How can we afford this?Oh, my God.And then I just saw his sweat was pouring out as if it were like a rigged effect.Oh, wow.That's actually the sequel to her smell is his sweat.His sweat.
09:49His sweat.Now, you mentioned the old west about.10 minutes ago.Do you ever think that Billy the kid was like the Joker of the Northwest?That guy was so twisted.I mean, he was like the clown cowboy of crime.Yes.There it is.
10:02I think so.I think that's right.I think so.Let me ask you one more thing before we get to the discussion today.Sarah Finnewitz, just as handsome IRL as he is on told him?He's very handsome and he's a very tall man.Is he 40 feet tall?He's 40 feet tall.
10:16He's a clean 40.I'm very little, as you guys can see right now.One of the things that really aggravated mewas when the pilot came out for the showand when the first images came out,people were complaining that I was too tall.They were like, this is ridiculous.Like, Arthur's like the same size as the tick.
10:38Oh, what?And he's like a good foot taller than me.Like a heavy foot taller than me,plus significantly broader.But sometimes things photograph weird.Like in the same way that you can use,use photography to make people look likethere's a greater size difference between that.
10:55Right, sure.Somehow we accidentally, in some of those early images,did a reverse Gandalf,where I was standing too close to the camera.So then when we started filming the season proper,after they'd gotten those complaints,they would constantly be like,can you try just crouching on a little bit?
11:11Oh, no.They'd like make me expand my stance,and I'd be like, he's already got like...That's famously the same thing that happenswith Batman Returns, because Danny DeVillelooks exactly as tall as Michael Key.the top hat is throwing it off no he's very handsome he wears a leather jacket a lotwhich is just like very cool and it's one of those things i'm just like i can't pull this off
11:31like i never nobody like comes in he's got a cup of coffee and a cigarette it's like going overthe script pages it's just like he's a snack can i now i'm gonna tie in can i tie in blank checkas well at what point did you bring up phantom menace to immediately almost immediately i wouldI would have to, but I'm like, let's get this over with.Yeah, right?Let's get into it.We got cast separately because I was, like, fighting for months and months and months to get the part.And they were fighting for months and months and months to get him to pick up the phone and take the part.
12:06And we didn't both get cast.We weren't both set until maybe two weeks before we were going to start filming.So the first time we met was the night before we were going to do the table read, which is always kind of scary because now they, like, fire people from table reads all the time.They make people do like, you know, like four rounds of testing for like any of these TV shows.It happens more when you're in like the traditional pilot season window when everyone's like going crazy and like fighting to try to get their actors on like the 90 pilots that will never see the light of day.But if someone when they do the table read like doesn't get laughs, the next day they're like out of it.Oh, Jesus.So they always like impart on to you this thing of just like, make sure you get your rest because this isn't just for fun.
12:50We don't want to go back to the drawing board.So I was only meeting him that night before,and it's like for a show that's so much about the chemistrybetween these two charactersand two characters who have been played well beforeby other people.So there's like a specific thing.There's an image that people have in their mind
13:08and what they sound like and how they moveand all this sort of stuff.It was like very nerve-wracking.So we went to dinner the night beforeto try to like get to know each other.And one of the first questions he asked mewhen we sat down for dinner was um i don't i don't know man are you a star wars fanhe brought it up he saw it on you he smelled it dude smelled it on me because i think we were
13:31talking about we were talking about bad work experiences that's what we were talking about we werecomparing things because we were like how do you like to work on set this and that we're talkingabout work experiences we're walking in the restaurant we sit down the restaurant and he says you'rea star wars fan and i went uh yeah anyway so um i was inone of them and he wasn't doing the thing where he was like pretending to be modest yeah he genuinelywas like you probably wouldn't know who the character is right and i had to be like okay and likeopen up the whole book and be like i spent a year pretending that phantom menace was the only moviethat existed right because blank check came out of that right yeah it was for a year just david and i
14:13talking about the star wars prequels as if they were devoid of context well i mean i feel likeI was meeting Peterson and Fedonements for dinner.I thought you're going to say Paris Hills.That's what I heard too.It's a tough one.You nailed his name.You know, Paris Hilton could play the joke.Oh, she's totally good.
14:30She's so twisted.But if you're like, I get off the subway, he's like waiting at the thing.I'm going to wave.Fed a minute!Yes.Yeah.And he's like, yeah, that fat guy.Got it.
14:40Got it.Yeah.It was very bizarre.Like, talks to him and realized like, oh, that was like the first job you got out of drama school.Yeah.Because so much of it was that like George Lucas likes to.who skirt around unions and labor laws.That's why he filmed those movies in England largely.
14:57A lot of child labor on set.I've heard that.Actors, unions are very different over there.So for all those alien parts, the voiceover parts,they just went to the local drama schoolsand we're like, give us your 20 guys who can do voices.And he was like, I did voices for like 10 characters.Two of them made it in.
15:15Wow.Like he's one of the other Gungans as well.Really?I didn't know that.One isolated line is like a gungan.I don't think anyone knows that.Like I've never seen him credited as that.But he was like the guy who played like Subalba was my buddy.
15:27Like it was like we were all like coming out of that class.So do you want lunch or do you want to do another gungan?Like what's, what would you rather have?Would you rather have lunch or another gungan?But he was like, we didn't have any context.Like he wouldn't.And it's weird because it wasn't like,now there's such a thing where you hear like all these actors
15:45working on Marvel movies were like,they didn't let me read the script.I didn't even meet the other act.I, like, shot my scenes in a parking lot in Atlanta.We'll see if I make the cut.But this was apparently just George Lucas doesn't like talking to people.That's not surprising.He was like, so, you know, he's just, like, really evil.
16:02And he said George Lucas was, like, right behind him.I was going to say over his shoulder, but he was definitely under his shoulder.But George Lucas was, like, right behind him, like, breathing on his neck.Wow.More evil.Like, in the recording booth, he was there.This guy's twisted, okay?Yeah.
16:18It's like you're the joke.Joker of Star Wars.It's like the clown Sith of Fry.Someone give me a fucking ladderso I can stand over this guy's shoulders?But he like didn't realizethat Darth Mall was a thinguntil he saw the trailer and was like,
16:32I think that's the character.Oh man, that's so weird.Right, because Ray Park played the body, right?Right, and he was also...Ray the body park.I think he also just was like,I don't know, they're giving me like 10 characters.I don't know if any of these are important.
16:46Yeah, you know?Weird.Well, that's awesome.So The TIC, Season 2.Season 2, April 5th.April 5th is the date.Amazon.Globally.
16:55Available on Amazon.That's awesome.So let's get to it.Steve Zanek,if you had to boil downthe film Pet Cemetery,1989,to its essence,
17:04without saying dead kids.Oh, no.Because I knew that would beyour essence boiling.What are we talking about?What is this movie?It's a neighbor that can't shut his goddamn mouth.It's what it is.
17:15No, it's a movie about,It's your classic, we move into a new house, but instead of the house being haunted,it's areas adjacent to the house being haunted.Your backyard is haunted.You've got a haunted backyard, and it's a Stephen King joint late 1980s, and yeah.It's a true horror story, because you've got like, you're buying this nice house in Maine.A bunch of main weirdos are burying all types of bodies out back on your property.Also, a blind buy.
17:43Blind buy.They're showing up just on good faith.They've already put in the payment.It's your classic metropolitan ignorance.We're moving from Chicago to this sleepy main town, which also I don't get.So this dude is like this fucking hot shit Chicago doctor.And he's like, you know what I want to do?Move to this nothing town in fact.
18:04Sex scandal?Well, yes, but in addition to, I think he's a terrible doctor.Oh, that could be.He's got to be a bad doctor because he's just like, well, later on when they bury the cat, okay, he's just like, well, maybe it wasn't dead.not a veterinarian. Wait a second. You're dealing with human people and you can't tell if a catis dead. I'm sorry, sir. I couldn't tell whether or not your wife was dead. She was, but I toldyou otherwise, I'm very sorry. It looks dead, but maybe I should get a specialist in here for this.The eyes have rolled back, but I don't know for sure. His nickname was malpractice. It's also not like,
18:40they go like, excuse me, sir, does my cat have pneumonia? And he's like, I can't tell. I'm not aveterinarian. It's a binaryquestion. It's just, does this thing havelife in it or not?Is this thing breathing or what?You handled it for like an hour.Is it alive or not?I couldn't possibly.
18:54Fred Quinn's like, I don't know.It was fucking frozen to thelaw and you scraped it off like ahoarder. I think it was dead.I mean, he's loaded with analogiesfor how this thing moved.It's like pulling tape off the ground.Speaking of
19:10hoarders, I think in this new movie that'scoming out very soon.the new pet cemeteryshould be in a hoarder's living roomand it's dead cat army dudebetter movie I thinkbecause there's like 40 of themeveryone it's like oh my god
19:26and then we pulled the couch backthere was three more flattened catswait a second did you bury a boy in thathoarder's houseit's gonna come back from the deadbecause that's like a modern Indian burial groundis a hoarder's domain it's just creepywell it's the same instinct right
19:40when you're a horder you're like oh I mightneed this eventually againThis is sacred.Yeah, exactly.This is sacred.We can't waste any part of the Buffalo.We must keep all the parts of the Buffalostacked up in my closet.
19:50What you don't want to do is bury a catunder like a pile of all the9-11 newspapers you collect it.Because you never know when you're going to need those again.Yeah, you're going to need them someday.Look, somebody comes over to the house,they ask, does he impact photos?I don't have any.
20:03I'm totally fucking.The 9-11 newspapers, were people collecting this?Absolutely.Really?Absolutely.My mother stole a 9-11 newspaper from a barbox.Well, allegedly.Let's not get her arrested.
20:14No, no, no, not allegedly.This is an actual store.Your mom's going down.I'm aware of that.Why?Wait, why?So the nation was coming together.And at that moment, your mom's like, now that the coast is clear, I'm going to steal a $4
20:28newspaper?My mom was at a, I believe it was a Starbucks.And her and her sister were, like, getting coffee.And they were like, this is crazy.And like, she was like, all the newspapers were gone.Like, they sell them there.And she's like, oh, like, and then she.saw one on a table, and she's like, okay.
20:46What's crazy, too, is then I would arguethe nation was not even coming together yet.We were all still real.Like, people were trying to find their placeand your mother with laser-like focus was like,I think your mother could play the Joker, dude.That's fucking nefarious.If you also think about it,
21:01like Osama bin Laden was kind of the Joker of the Middle East.That's true, Eric.You started the Joker, Tom.No one brought up with Joker.That feels like a later period, Frank Miller comic.Or a mad TV sketch.So it's the Creed family, this dad with a face built for soap operas.Yes.
21:24The mother is played by Denise Crosby, who had been recently fired off of Star Trek the next generation.Okay, so I was getting my time.So this is like her immediate rebound from Yashita.Pretty much because TNG was 87.Tasha, you are, by the way.Sorry.Oh, boy, I'm sorry.No, you have to.
21:39I just stopped 12 tweets.I just jumped in front of you.Griffin, like me, is a star.I'm more of a Star Wars fan. I'm more of a Star Wars fan, but my girlfriend's aTrek fan and has been trying to get me into it and I believe she just dumped me upon hearingthat mistake. Yeah, because TNG was 87 was that first season and this came out 89. Soyeah, production-wise, like this was their next like biggest thing. Right, crazy. Right. And I thinkshe's good in this movie. She's just not in it that much. No. No, and he's very strange. It's a very
22:12specific type of 80sleading man, which is guywho is only good at holdinga close up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.Like, you're just like, he looks verycomfortable, holding thewhole frame, and he's got a prettygood job. Yeah. And he
22:28doesn't seem that interested inplaying the emotions of the character orsaying dialogue. Oh. Yeah.Well, that's that Melrose Place actingschool you come from, where youjust don't do anything, you just stare and lookhandsome. Right, it's the dramatic stare.That's, but you're totally right, though, Gavin, because he could play a dude named Billy.
22:45Absolutely. Absolutely. A grown man who calls himself Billy for some reason. Yeah, absolutely.Sort of like Billy the kid.Yeah, you did mention that once, 15.The Joker of the Old West.Yes, exactly. I'm retiring the Joker of the Old West.This is the next Amazon show.That's the next show. Come on, right?Honestly, I'm going to flip it.
23:06Mark Hamel and fucking Jack Nicholson could walk into the studio right now, and I'm not saying the words,Joker again. No matter what, no matterwhat. You're already saying this, butdon't you remember the part in Pat Garrett andBilly the kid where he has the little acidflower? He just puts thatPat Garrett. And the buzzer? Oh my God.The buzzer handshake? He does the pound prince
23:25of the O.K. Corral. Originalchoice for the dadin this movie, Bruce Campbell, better movie,same movie, worst movie. Much better.Better movie. I was going to say the wholething with this kind of genre, especiallythis period of horror films is like youwant the fun of
23:41watching someone play Freaked at.Bruce Campbell was so fucking good at thatin the Evil Dead movies.And this guy, you're just like,this movie misses a little energyfrom the fact that he cannot fully committo the terror of the situation,which she's doly doing.
23:56Everyone else is doing.But like in betwixt to multiple trips to Chicagothat she takes in this movie.She looks more terrifiedat the other end of phone callsthan he does when he's face to facewith his dead son.I will say this though.
24:08You know what I don't think Campbell could pull offthis fucking bath scene?we get in this movie. This dude's just taking thatsteamy bath. Where did thatthat guy? That rat bath?Classic rat bath?I don't want to, I'm really, reallysorry to be doing this. I'm going to bring up the Joker again.
24:23Please.Please do that.I do believe thatFred Gwyn, it's kind oflike, it is like Heath Ledgerin the dark night. I think if youtake him out of this, this movie does not workwhatsoever. Yeah, that's actually true. He's like
24:37the lightning rod of the whole thing. And not havingseen this film before, I didn't realizelike, oh, this is who everyone'sparodying. Yeah. Yeah. Eventhe people who don't realize that they're parodyinghim, they're now riffing off ofthe archetype that isthe people riffing off of him. Absolutely.
24:53Because this is the ground zero.Like, the creepy old man who's giving youthe warnings, can you trust him or not?Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the voice, I'm just likerealizing like, oh, I've seen peopledo this voice in a thousand bad improvshows. Oh, yeah. You everwonder how I got these scows?
25:09Yes.Why so serious?And Fred Gwynne, of course, Herman Munster,classic television actor in this movie, which is cool.So when they move in, and immediately it's, you know,it's very bucolic, very lovely, we see Maine.Bucolic, you bring it out all the $10.Like he removed Joker from his vocabulary
25:30so that he's filling it.My IQ rose three points.They're all coming in like a black hole.It's like this Joker-esque town that they moved to.It's twisted.I mean, the problem with this town is it's got the auto bond going right through it.Right. Right. It's insane. There is no speed limit on this road. The worst location I've ever seen.So bad. The family just, it's the mother of the father, the daughter, who's like seven or eight.
25:53This little girl sucks by the way. And like a fresh baby, Miko Hughes. It's like 13 months or whatever.The baby sucks too. The baby's terrible. You got to be suspicious of parents in the situation, though. Like your kid's like 30 months old. You're going to get the fucking movie. You're going to get in there now. Yes.Well, you say it's the worst place to live. But you got to imagine, with.with this major trading route coming through this small town in Maine.The fucking property value is probably really low.Like, you could probably buy that house for 500 bucks.Well, 500 bucks at the expensive, the life of your son and a cat.How about, so.
26:22He's a hot shot doctor.Isn't that the whole point that he should be able to afford?That's the thing is he's disgraced.It's not sad, but he's disgraced.By the way, his bumper sticker?My God, did you get a look at that thing?Gas, or ass?I wish.
26:34No, it's, it said, like, have you hugged your MD today?Oh, see, yeah, he's a perfect.fucking doctors.These fucking doctorsalways want the world.Yeah, he gotme-toed out of Chicagoand now he's like
26:46resettling in Maine.Yeah, that's actually right.He definitely is a guywho takes a better careof his scalpelthan he does his children.That case that that scalpel's inthat's where you put like
26:57fucking war swords.I refuse to believeany normal doctor.No, that's a serial killer.That's a sweetie.That's a Sweenie Todd.Yes, it is.Or Jack the Ripper.
27:07Yes.Who is kind of like the Joker ofHe was.He was the Joker of Old England.God damn it.I 100% agree.You should put Miko Hughes in that case.You should.
27:18That's how you keep him safe.You put him in a nice plush case.But this was also the first time he played a feral animal childbecause he does the same thing in West Craven's New Nightmare,where most of his dialogue is.That's also his dialogue in kindergarten cop.Oh, right.He's also in that.
27:37And then he plays the kid who.can crack the puzzles and Mercury Rising.Yeah, that was, it was in the days,before we were using the word autistic.Yes, it's a pre-autistic autistic child.Anybody ever see the TV show called Babes?Oh, with, oh, it's the Playboy channel?No, the woman who played the sister in Back to the Future
28:00is one of the titular babes.They're two larger women and are living in the cityand their entire house is cow themed for some reason.There's nothing, their couch is cow-cow-themed. When did this air?Like, 1992 on Fox. And MikoHughes was involved. That's how it's got kind of a double meaning.Yeah, yeah, I think that that's
28:17where it's like, oh, they're babes in the city, butit's also like L-O-L. Right, right.That kind of a thing. I feel like you just slipped intoa different dimension where Caroline in thecity doesn't exist. Oh, you know what? That'sa world I don't want to know, dude. I'll just tell you rightnow. But as we're saying, there's thisso they love their house.
28:33There's this road where truckshave to go 90 miles an hour. They can'tgo 40. They can't go 30.You're talking about Babes or Pet Cemetery?I am now talking about Pet Cemetery again.Wait, are you talking about the Joker, dude?All right, just checking.Babes was like the Joker's who cops.
28:50No one's listening now.Go on.Talk about Pet Cemetery.It's like Ice Road Truckers.There's that level of like do or die intensityin every like 18 wheeler that goes by this house.If you get pulled over on this road,the cop is just like, speed it up, let's go.
29:06And it's such a narrow road, so in the middle.middle of nowhere.I want to know where it goes to.This is five feet from someone's front door.Where does this road go to?What is the major trade route?Because it's supposed to be like mid-centralMaine. Are we going to Canada?
29:23Like is it that? You're trying to get to fucking Prince EdwardIsland? Like what is going on?I don't get it. Why they have to speed through this road?I do have a theory about that though.Much like there is a reference toKujo in this movie. Yeah, that was clever.I do believe that this is probably, these are maximumoverdrive trucks. Oh shit.
29:38So they're just controlled by aliens?But we do see at least two truckers.How do you explain that, Chris Cadden?I mean, they're just long for the ride, man.Yeah.The aliens need some guys to talk to.That would be pretty cool.That would sign up for that, but I don't have to do shit.
29:52Do we think that's supposed to be the same truck at the end?Yeah, it's a lot of red trucks.A lot of the trucks are red.It might be the same.I mean, I wasn't checking license.But when he pulled up and opened the door for her, I was like, is that where he's adding someextra gas on the flames here.You know?
30:10Oh, I don't know, actually.But then they don't do anything.I mean, he just makes that like,thank you for not getting me a ticket.Yeah, which is...Usually, I hit kids every time I drive.You're my good luck charm.By the way, sorry about killing your kids.
30:25And there's another boy that dies in this movie.Hit by a truck.Yes, exactly.It's a huge problem.The town could lobby to lower the speed limit.It's not that big of a deal.Says it from the gecko, he's like, by the way,one thing with this town.
30:40It's like always going to get hit bytruck. We tried several years agoback in the 60s toget that speed limit reducedand well the mayor wasimpeached. They burned him at thestake. Yeah, Paula Page ain't going to havelet that happen. Oh man, sick
30:56Paula Page reference. They signed a billhad the clerk run itover to the courthouse but he got hitby truck on the way there.His voice is it's50%JFK and 50%Jimmy Stewart, right? I was trying to do the
31:11math. That's a comfortable blend.Right. But it's at an octave because he'slike six foot nine. Right. That is just sodeep. Right. If you're trying to make ahomemade Fred Gwynne voice, yes,that's how you would make it, I believe.A homemade voice.But I think about the truck. One more thing
31:27is that it's a Stephen King thingwhere it's like, you know, he's a guythat's a very prolific writer and he'svery much of a dad kindof horror writer. It's like, you know,You're having dinner with your kids.That fucking road out there, you know.Every time they come by you, they're going to fucking kill a.
31:45Ooh, they're going to kill a kid.He was inspired to write the book after his daughter's cat was run over by a car.These kids, they're maniacs.These cars might come to life.Ooh, the cars come to life.Maniac.Oh.Nice.
31:59But it feels like, right, he made it like, I mean, this comes after Coojo.So he was inspired by his daughter's cat dying.I mean, this speaks to, like, Stephen King's focus and his prolificness is that, like, he gets that idea, he sits down, he writes maybe 90 pages, and then goes, like, this thing is not going to sustain an entire book.But rather than give up, he's like, well, let's throw like five more crazy things in.Yeah, totally.The kid's got to get hit by the car.I only got 90 pages.Yeah, let me see.
32:29All right, let's get to it.He just blows a huge fucking rail, and he gets back to it.You just feel like he's a guy who never abandoned.a premise. Like if it started running dry, he just shifts.You will make it work. You'll make it work.Square peg round all those stories successfully.Could you turn that TV down? What if the TV?Okay, now the TV is too loud and everyone goes deaf in the town because the TV is
32:52too goddamn loud because no one puts their fucking toys away.You know what, dude, you're joking, but I don't know, you look through some of thoseshort stories. I bet you find too loud TV down. Absolutely.But then a truck goes speeding by his window and he runs out and just,slow down their kids here.Well, that's the other crazy thing is that Stephen Kingfamously, like, in the late 90sgot hit by a car.
33:14That's right. Jogging at night, everyone was like,right, was he like on sort of speed?Like, there were a bunch of weird circumstances,but that's like 20 plus years after he writes,not 20 plus maybe, but 15 years,after he writes this and maximum overdrive.Big truck caught up with them.Big truck, like they were, you know what I mean?
33:32They were in a room, a boardroom,and they wanted to get rid of them.It feels like he was the protagonist in a Stephen King novel.He convinced that the truck would eventually get him.Andrew, did you say karma?Oh, well then, ish.You're welcome.Pund spotter 3,000 just activated.
33:49There's three things wrong with this house.A, it's the road that's going to kill you for sure.B, there's this path that nobody knows where it goes.And C, it's Fred Gwyn, who is the neighbor that if you,and I think there's Chicago people, they're not New York people,because the way I deal with every neighbor I have is,Oh, cool, man.I'm just going to, yeah, it's okay, awesome.
34:07You know that road, it's like, oh, yeah, definitely, go pets.I'll talk to you soon.But this is, it's some terrifying shit, though, because this dad is like, what's with that path?And he goes, oh, that path, great story about that path.I'd tell you some other time, though, bye.I'd be like, wait a second, where does this go?Whose weirdo cabin does this take me to?Sounds like that should cost you a dinner.
34:32maybe uh come over for dinner one time you tell i'll tell you about the pathone of your flaws might be haunted that sounds like lunch talk to youtomorrow at least a couple of six packs dude because this dude is drinking throughoutthis movie but once you find out there's a pet cemetery on your land yeah bulldoze ityeah i don't give a shit what main town he's like to go there and throw corpsesbut are you sure that it's his property though i don't know i mean either wayyou're going back in the yeah either way you're doing a cut through through yourproperty that path is clearly in their yard
35:04put up barbed wire fences because it turns outFred Gwynn's dog in 1924died from barb wireyikes dude that's how does that dogdie from barbed wire unless someonetwisted oh gets to the dogi don't know man it's like someone fucked up where the redfern grows shit
35:24that dog got cut up by what the red fernreally i'm not familiar is that aStephen King film?No, it's classic children's literature.It's one of those books that teachers recommenda kid and then kids cry for two days.Yeah, because you're like, oh, cool,like he loves his dogs and then the last 40 pages
35:43is like this dog's intestines fell outbecause it got stuck in a bramble.It's kind of the joker of childhood novels.God damn it.But the problem, to Eric's point,Stephen King is kind of the joker of horror writers.I move into this house.There's this fucking death road right next to my
36:01house i am putting up a huge fence at least to keep my kids away from this thing and thatthat's like day one shit but they so you're saying you want to build that wall yeah i would liketo build up we're gonna keep the trucks out oh no no i love truckers wait a minute i don't know whati love and hate give me a few days these pets they're coming back to life they're coming overthe border from maine all these dogs have to die like dogssomething somethingIndians I don't knowSo these parents are the worst
36:37Parents are they're fucking terribleAnd I mean like also they get help immediatelyLike it's a huge house but thisThere's a lot ofTo Griffin's point there's a lot of stuffIt's like I don't knowWhat if this lady commits suicide?This woman Missy
36:51Who we don't even know anything aboutExcept for she's just doing a Fred Quinn impressionYeahYeahAnd then she's like doing their sheets and laundryAnd then she later hangs herBecause she can't stay in the cancer anymore.She's in too much pain.
37:04She had a bellyache that she never looked into that turned out to be cancer.This is one of those.I feel like Stephen King notorious for like, you know, oh man, what a good hook.What a good premise.He's feeding on something we all have at the back of our psyche.Right.And this is a movie.I haven't read the book, but this movie certainly has like 20 different major completely disconnected events.
37:28Yes.Could we quickly talk about the guy?Denise Crosberry's, Crosberries, Crosby.Crosby.Her fucking sister.And how ridiculous this is.Another great example.It doesn't even belong in this movie.
37:42She's got a sister.It turns out, Zelda from back in the day in Chicago who her parents tied up in a bedroomand refused to let out until she got like crippled and insane.Because she had spinal meningitis, which apparently turns her into one of the Morlocks from the time machine.I was going to say Gallum.But yes.Right, I paused the movie and went, okay, come the fuck on.Let me Google Spinal Men and Jais.
38:05Guess what it looks like?People who are in pain, it's not a mutation.It's a monster.They don't look any physically different.She looks like clark and it.She's got purple flesh.She looks like the librarian from Ghostbusters after her face like opens up.And she's writhing and writhing and is stretchy.
38:24It's almost like the exorcist here.And I mean, I guess the idea is like, oh, that's her like memory of her.like you know what I mean she like remembers her beingfreakish but it's also like she hasno facial feature she has no eyebrowsshe's like Cardassianand it has nothing to dowell she just looks like one of the
38:42botched alien clonesof Amanda Plummer yesthere's a little bit there's a little bitit has nothing to do with thisno put that in a different movieright in a cleaner tighter movie I'm watchingit and I'm going oh this is kind of interestingso what they're trying to set up is that
38:57emotionally this story is about peoplenot being able to cope with death.Right.In the same way the daughter couldn't process,the concept of deathand the father felt compelledto bring the cat back to life.In the same way that he felt compelled
39:11to bring his son back to life,she's got this albatross around her neck,which is that she's lived with this guiltover this death that she always prayed for as a child.But then there's no payoutbecause then she just gets murdered by her zombie son.Yeah, and I can get all of thatin a nice, tightly written monologue.
39:30I don't need to see this.I don't see this orcfucking tied up in this bed, dude.I don't get it.So the dad goes to workon his first day,this kid gets hit by one of those fucking trucks.And his brains are flying out of his head
39:44the entire time,and they're running him up thereto the doctor's office.Like, he's still fine?He's all right?Yeah.It's at the doctor to look at him.He looks like massive head wound hair.
39:52He does have that, like, fully open.Yeah.Yes.I mean, once again, this doctoris failing the most basic doctorof all time, which is, can you tellif this thing is alive or dead?Yeah, absolutely. Because he goes like, oh, call the ambulance
40:06and I was like, no, called the coroner, dude. Wait, too fuckingwait. Yeah. But it comesback for a second, right? There's like a littlescare, like, oh, but it turns out to be Satan or somethingtalking to a ghost thing. Yeah. They're usinghim as a vessel kind of, right? Yeah. I feel like at theoutskirts of this, this is Lulomain, I think it is.Okay. I might be wrong there. But like,
40:28I feel like they should have one of those, they have him infactories it's in like super eight and stuff the uh zero zero days since accidentsyes except for it's always zero zero days since somebody got fucking killed by a truckright right it's just it's on that main road man and they got to get where they'regoing they do they got to get like the joker of cars they are the no it's true i don't evenknow why you guys are laughing it's just it's just slinging facts he's true facts day he's likethe joker of jokes over my face is purple i don't know but you can't tell it'sAbsolutely purple.
41:01There is a thing where they want to castrate the catbecause it's a Tom cat who likes to go around.And is the Houdini of cats, by the way,because he sleeps with the little girl.You see Denise Crosby put her daughter to bed.She closes the door.And then the cat is outside.I'm like, how is this cat getting out?
41:17Yeah, magic cat, dude.It's a magic cat.Yeah.But there's this weird business where the next morning,he's taking the cat out to get fixed,and he's going to go to work.and he's like she's the daughter's like well the cat's gonna be okay right dad and he's likewell i don't know might happen things happen under the gas man and she's like what and the mom is
41:39like promise her he's gonna be okay and he does and then he fucking gets right in denise crosbie's facelike if anything happens that cat it happens one out of a thousand times but you're fuckingdoing i'm like tense morning 10th morning yeah i also mishear this but does he not say that he'shad the cat since college, that it's likehis old cats. Oh, really? Okay.Yes, I should bring up something fromthe book. In the book,he is obsessed with the
42:05virility of his cat. Right.I don't quite...He's not... And he's really into the fact thathis cat fucks. Right. Like, he's like, there'ssome line in it where he's like, oh,the zest went out of his eyes. He doesn't want tofuck anymore. And I'm like, why?You're a husband. Like, just
42:21fucking focus. Because the movie kind of makesit seem like she's the only one who cares aboutthe cat, the daughter. It's like, I'm a mature pet.And then he has this one offhand reference to like,look, I've had her for a long time. Or had him,obviously, he fucks female cats.Generally. Right, don't want to play thatfemale cats can't fuck. Here's my
42:39cat fritz. Well, it's namedafter Winston Churchill.Yeah. So it's, they nickname a churchand, you know, Winston Churchill alsothat too fucked. That too fucked animals.That cat should have been morbidly obese, though.Yeah. It's kind of a big cat.Churchill, kind of the joke.
42:55of parliament.Absolutely.That's what they've said.Can we back out for a few seconds?You want to cram anotherJoker reference in that?I'm just curious.We can.
43:04Am I the Joker of something?Certainly can.No, I just want to point outthat Steve said that the catwas going to be castrated.Well, I mean, not castrated.No, but that's fucking hilarious.Actually, his daughter
43:15says that, like,I don't want Church's nuts to be cut.Yeah.Which is great.Nuts cut.I like the combo.And that's because of thatextra character, Missy,
43:25apparently taught the daughter that.Right. She talked about nuts a lot.But this crazy chain of events of him saying,like the daughter asking,you know, is anything ever going to happen to the cat?Right. Then he goes like,well, you know, had it for a very long timesince college. Cats get old.
43:41You know, things happen. And the daughter'slike, I don't want to happen. He's like, look, if I hadmy way, yeah, the cat would live to bea hundred.And then she promisesthat nothing's going to happen to the cat. And thenhe yells at her. Yeah. Right.Furious.
43:55For making a promise she can't keep.Which is stupid, though, because you know how many times my parents lied to me when I was a kid?Like, what do you make it a big deal about this for?But also, he brought up the subject.Right.He was the one who was teasing the line.Pretty old.Yeah.
44:08He fucks pretty hard.Who knows how many fucks he has left in?I mean, how many cats die under anesthesia?By the way, just chill out.Like, just let's go to work.Yep.Let's just go to work.And just lie to your kid.
44:21It doesn't matter.Tackle the dead cat problem when you got a dead cat.Exactly.Exactly.And only then.So Fred Gwynn is kind of ingratiating himself with a family.He's like, oh yeah.And the dude starts fucking popping in, which I don't appreciate.
44:37He's just fucking opening your front door.That is the scariest part of this movie.Across the street, weirdo pervert neighbor just walks in.No thank you, Maine.A guy that could actually play Herman Munster if you wanted to.That's the body type I don't want in my doorway.I audition for the role a Herman Monster.gave it to a much more handsome
44:57Can you imagine?The movie just stops dead.To terms of the camera and winks?It is one of those things toowhere it's like they never try to make the argumentthat the two of them have become friends.Yes.No, they're just sort of like, well, we're here.
45:12He continues accepting this guy's presencein every aspect of his life.I think he keeps coming overbecause his wife doesn't like warm Budweiserthe way that Fred Gwyn does.So it's like, well, this dude loves hanging on the porch.And I think there was a thing where it's like, all right, we're going to take you, Fred Gwendo, our favorite restaurant.He's like, all right, we'll go one for one.
45:31I'll take you to the fucking pet cemetery.These are great lobster rolls, but have you seen a dead dog recently?Best pet cemetery in town.Aside from, like, even if you don't believe that you're in the beginning of a supernatural Stephen King novel,aesthetically unpleasing.Like, if that's that close to your home, you'd just be like, I don't love this location.On one side, Fury Road, on the other side, the creepiest pet cemetery in history.You say that, but whenever he has, you know, he finishes his Budwisers for the night,
46:03he takes all the empties and buries them in the Pet Semicet.They all get refilled.He hasn't had to pay for a beer in years.But they come back evil, though.They come back, it's evil beer.They come back at Stroes.Yeah, it's stroze.I put the Budweiser bottles in the ground.
46:19They come back stroze.I don't mind.when in full budnow it's bud linewe're lyingoh thisthis batch got Clamatoand truly the devil's
46:32workthat isso they take this field tripto the pet cemeteryit holds a fullfucking family excursionand you know he's likethis is where my dog died
46:42in the 20s and over herethere's goldbecause the thing is he's likeby the way like 80%of these animalswere definitely killed by trucksthat are right over thereyep yep
46:50some were barbed wirethe goldfish maybe but atruck thing? Maybe you put your goldfishout on the road. Now this was a weirddetail though. I was thinking, whilewatching this, I was thinking about the Errol Moore's movieGates of Heaven. This is about a petcemetery kind of situation. Much
47:05classier establishment for thisplace. But the birdcage that's hanging and it's likeso are you just bringing the deadbird in the cage and it's like, wellI'm going to plant that right there.Why are people thrown junk in here?Yeah, well that's the thing.
47:22Why is it misspelled?I kept on waiting for that to have some...Maine Public schooling.Yeah.Is that just a flourish?Is that just Stephen King pulling like an inglorious bastard?It's just like, oh, a child would spell it that way.It's the innocence of children that bury animals.
47:40Yeah.I do like how Denise Crosby's character can't fucking handle it.She's fucking livid.The girl is like, mommy, wow, it says pet cemetery.Well, it's misspelled, but it says pet cemetery.She's livid about the spell.That's the other crazy thing is, in one scene, the daughter is, like, terrified by the very concept of death.And in the next scene, she's the only person jamming out at the pet cemetery.
48:03She finds it all so amusing.And I think that's the...Look, it's a fish, daddy.A dead fish!That's a victory for Fred Gwynn, though, because Denise Crosby is pissed off.And he's like, no, no, no, you gotta learn about it sometime.And then she's like, yay, dead dog!Fred Gwyn also spoils this movie because he's just...
48:22Like, let me creep her out for a second.Hey, you know, cemeteries arewhere the dead speak.Right, yeah, he does fucking immediately.And she freaks out.He's like, oh, no, I didn't mean it.That way, I mean by the tombstones.So, convoluted.
48:35You know, the tombstones have words on them.So those are words communicated to other peoplewhen they come to the cemeteryand then they read the other words.And every fifth grave, of course,will come to life and kill you.But, you know, that's true.But the dead are speaking to you, a little girl.
48:49What I appreciate, I was thinking about this,because it doesn't have it in this movie,but a couple of years ago,we covered the sequel on the show.And I was going back and look at the IMDB pageand they had some frame grabs.And I realized in Pet Cemetery 2,much more inclusive,
49:03you see a tombstone,definitely a star of David.Oh, thank goodness.So we're letting the Jewish pets in now,which is fantastic.That makes sense.The filter fish.The rare Jewish raccoon.
49:19So, like, you know,so this kid diesunder the doctor's careand he tells him like I'm going to cometo you later and there's this weirdscene where he's having a dreamand he wakes a totally normalthing for someone to say right before they die
49:33by the way I'll see you in about two and a half daysit's like I'll see you soon coupled withlike the soilis bad is the line the soil is sourthe ground is souryou cannot go past or something like thatright it's like soil is thestonier
49:49Stonier in your...Yeah, it's some ridiculous love.By the way, Fred Gwynn also has a line when they're at the petcemetery, it's like, ah, this land'sno good, only for corpses.Enjoy it. How is any landonly good for corpses?And also, what land is bad for corpses?
50:06That's exactly.The beach. The beach. Well, I found it.It's the soil of a man's heart is stonier.Oh, wow.What fuck does that even mean?But also, the only thing he really freaks out about is,how did that guy know my name?Oh, that's right, because he says Stonyer, Lewis.
50:22Right, not the insane shit he saidor the fact that he promised to see him again soon.And by the way, this guy is sleeping like a babywhen this goes.Like, I would not sleep for weeks.Yes.By the way, this scene, a little trivia herehad to be filmed twice
50:36because the first time they filmed it,and this is how it's written in the book,the character is only in his underwear,and they found it too sexy.They were like, it's not scary enoughbecause this guy's too sexy.The jogger?Oh, no, no, the, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, the dream sequence, the dad is sleeping.
50:51Okay.The dad is sleeping and he's in his underwear and they're like, this is way too sexy.Whoa.Oh, we was just like tidy, witty, like accidentally hang and brain.Exactly.He's had a rock and bar?Yeah.Does that happen to you, Griffin?
51:02Do they have to rest up, shoot stuff on the take?All the time.They've had to do a lot of CGI correction.Yeah, that sounds right.Because when people watch the show, sometimes when my friends watch the show, they go,oh, it's kind of embarrassing that you have no bulge in a superhero costume.Yeah, sure.It's like negative space.
51:15And I have to tell them like, no, they actually spent millionsa dollar checking it look like that.Don't believe that that's a practical effect.That's why season two took so long to come out.So expensive, because I got a killer hog.I like the ideaof like the producerssitting down smoking cigars like,
51:31well, this scene is, well now I'm hard.Great. Now I'm hard. Awesome.This guy's got a huge dick and now I'm hard.Refilm it.One of the posters for seasonone wasthe tick and I like from behind.Right. Yeah.
51:46Um, and I, my, they gave me the tightest ass in the world.And I have no butt.Sure.I mean, all jokes aside, because I do obviously have a killer hog.Yeah.Uh, all jokes aside, uh, no butt.And this was, this photo was taken without like zero clench request or anything.But none of that.
52:05Can a no butt be tight?I mean, I'll say this.I got a loose no butt.Okay.And my stunt double on season one had a great tuchus.and when I would be watching him do the stuntsI'd be like, God, I wish I filled out my suit that way.And this suit was made for me and he fills it out better.
52:24So I warned my friends like, hey, the way to tell whether or notI did the stunt is to look at the tookus and see if it's looking, look at the tight.So then the photo comes up for the poster, and my friends go,oh, so what, you had your stunt double do the poster shoot?And I said, no, I remember doing that.I know that's me.Did they inject you at all?Who fucking?
52:45said in like the marketing departmentlike we gotta hire someoneto tighten up this buttso you think it's like Photoshopsomeone spent work and energyphotoshopping my butt I havethe raw image from setI compared it
53:01Hollywood is disgustingyou've got this pegboard at home this redstrain all over the place yeahdefinition yeah for sure flat as a pancakethere's the backside it's a littlesaggy even if anythingI can't fill it outAnd then this poster is just two beautiful honey baked hands with real, like, shadowing, contouring.
53:23I was like someone who like, you know, I want to, I'm a visual artist.I'm a graphic designer.I want to make art.I want to design posters.Hey, hey, Hemelberg.You're on the butt this week.Oh, I drew butt patrol.Yeah.
53:38Great.Somebody loved this butt.Like, you look at it and you know somebody really took some time.It looks like they were like doing the like Scarlet Johansson on the.Avengers, like the full treatmenton me. Or they just did likeLost in Translation, we're able to fill that outand turn it around. But do you find it flattering
53:53at all? It's like someonereally focused on your assand was trying to accentuate it and get theviewers drooling. I mean, that's the positivetakeaway is my buttwas that bad. I don't needto overcompensate that muchon a show we're not selling on
54:09sex appeal at all. Someonefrom another department was firedso they could pay.To do that.Yeah.Yeah.Sorry.Well, the butt's bed.
54:20Hands rolled.Amazon stock went down the day that they got the raw photos.Wait, so this ghost takes this dude.Sure.To the pet cemetery.And by the way, so Steve, you were right.The second take of this, he's wearing his scrubs.Yes.
54:35If there's anything you shouldn't get in bed with at the end of the day, it's the scrubs thatyou've been wearing at the medical college.Which also covered with blood.Exactly.Who the hell knows?It's the same thingyou buried this other guy in, for sure.Right.
54:49Oh, Victor Pascow is that guy's name.Yes, Pascao.Because they think it's Pax Cow.Right, yeah.And that's a Stephen Kingy, like, oh,you know what to me, red rum,like what's the word mean kind of nonsense.Totally.
55:01Which also, shockingly, comes to nothing.Oh, weird.Yeah, it's totally shocking.So, yeah, he kind of gives him all these warnings,but not like clear warnings.Like, the warning you want to do is like,look, this whole, your neighbor sucks.First and foremost,
55:14don't listen to anything that old fuck says.You know, go over watch the Celtic games, whatever you guys want to do.But when he's, like, bury something in the pet cemetery, it's going to come back.Evil, it's not going to be worth it and just don't do it.But it's like all this elliptical horse shit about the ground and the soil and whatever.Beyond that, there is one suggestion he needs to give him, which is build a fucking fence stat.He's warning him about things seven or eight incidents down the line.Right.
55:40You could just solve it.Just a quick piece of ghost advice, build a fence.Quick advice.your son and cat will bothget hit by trucks if you don't watch.Oh, no, you can't do that. I likelooking at you and your family.Then he'd have to ignore his grudge with the
55:54local fence maker. Oh, yeah.She clearly has been saucing for a long time.Also weird, too. I mean, he says, like,oh, and don't go over there. There'sa shot of the bramble, and it's, like,glowing blue, like,you know, I mean, classic bad side.The ghost tells him not to go there, right?
56:12Yes, yes, the ghost on their little ghost field,trip back to the and then he goes back homeand goes to sleep thinking it's a dreamand he wakes up and his feet are dirtyand he takes his sheets and putsit down a laundry chutesright so cancer lady can deal with it that's herproblem now but this guy's like a millionaire
56:28with having a laundry shootI mean it's just an old housestillit's got a lazy guyit impressed meit impressed meJeff Bezos just got a laundry shipjust today I love Eric watching these movies
56:42like wow a slutJeff Beezza just burns all this clothesafter he wears it once.Running water.Wow.That's the most disgusting part of this movie, though,is when he flips over the sheets,much like the first Godfather movie.
56:56And it's just these disgusting muddy feet in his bed.I was like, no!It's awful.It's so disgusting.And how did Denise Crosby wake up with thatand not be like, what the fuck?You're telling me that he crawled into bedonce he was already asleep?
57:11Yeah.With the dirtiest feet known to manAnd she didn't feel something in the bedYou didn't see no man feet is what we're talking aboutYou're absolutely rightBut I think it sort of speaks to a thingBecause we had it with they had that littleYou know snap with the cat
57:27You know explaining you know the death thing or whateverI think this is a classic Stephen King troubled marriage familyI can confirm that in the bookThey have a real drag him out aboutThat scene it goes on for like five pagesThe stuff with the father-in-law feels like it comes out of nowhere.The next day, there's clearly backstory missing to why the dad hates.Absolutely.
57:49Because he's against tying up a fucking daughter in a bedroom and letting her die.Right.But it's Thanksgiving.Denise Crosby is like, well, I'll see you.You know the rules with Thanksgiving.You can't come.You have to stay here.We take a small commuter plane.
58:07We take it to Chicago.You stay here.of whatever is going on in this family.Chris, do you know what's going on in this family?What is the deal?Well, because here was my suspicion,because there's, after their little fight,they have that whole thing where she's, like,
58:21talking about how, you know, she gets scaredwhen there's, like, conflict or whatever.And the conflict is about, oh, it's not after the fight.The daughter is, like, what happens when people die?Yeah, sure.And he's like, oh, some people believe you, you know,go to heaven.Some people believe you come back as a little kid.
58:37Some people believe you just, like, snap out or whatever.and she's like, well, you know, is that what you believe?And he's like, I don't know, he kind of basically says that he's an atheist.Yeah.And she overhears it and she's like, oh, I heard you talking to our daughter about not believingand whatever.And she has sort of, you know, she mentions like religious something, something.I was suspecting it was a thing where they hate him because he's an atheist.
58:59I can, it's less that in the book, at least.It's more he's just a total piece of shit.Oh, like he's in the beginning.But the father-in-law is a piece of shit too.Well, yeah, but I will say in the book,they don't actually get into what happenedbetween the father-in-law and him.I need a little bit of that.
59:16I need a little bit.Do they get into the fucking sisterbeing chained to a bed?Yes, they do.That's an extended fucking place.I'm not going to be friends with a dude who did that.I'm sorry.I don't care if I married the daughter.
59:29And he's talking about it?He's just like flim-flamin talking about it.I can't deal with that.But it seems like she spills the beans about thisfor the first time that night.He's like, oh, I'm so sorry, this happened to you.And I'm like, all right, you got two kids.You're married.
59:42That's got to come up sooner.That's a real problem.Well, it's the death of the servant there.She kills herself.She hangs herself.It's a fun hanging.It's a fun hanging.It's a good looking hang.
59:53It's a clean hand.It's a clean fun hand.It's my favorite hang of all time.It reminded me of the Moses-Lex suicide attempt with the no funeral gift to him and he's going to hanghimself.Classic.Yeah, she pins her note to herself, which is a little undignified.I would leave it out a little bit.
01:00:08Yeah, you put it somewhere elseso they don't have to find the bodyin order to read the note.You may put it on the front door.The front door is good.Because I think the thing is like,well, I want them to find it.You don't want to put in a drawer or something like that.
01:00:19I'm not cleaning the house before I hate my dog.I just had to do their fucking laundry.You want me to clean my own house too?Yeah, I'd be drinking milk out of the carton before that happened,throwing it somewhere.It is weird when, when Denise Crosby goes into the whole speech,it's sort of this tone of like,I'm sorry, it's just...
01:00:37I have a secret.I don't like death.Like, the point of the sister story is to explain,like, it's the Phoebe Kate's Christmas monologue.Like, here's why I don't like this thingthat everyone else likes.It's like, no one likes death.What are you talking about?
01:00:53They stuffed my sick sister in a chimney, and she died.Ever since then, I never celebrate death.And everyone was like, woo, death.Awesome.Buntary on tomorrow, see you there.You seem sad at that.That funeral today is, do you have some secret past tragedy I don't know about?Well, there is one person who really does love death, and that is the Joker.
01:01:16He does.Oh, yeah.The only man twisted enough to laugh at a funeral.I really love the house in this flashback when she's telling the sister's story.It's a running theme throughout the film, but weirdo, creepy paintings on the wall.Oh, sure.Not really looking like family members.It's kind of awesome.
01:01:40I also love this sequence where she's just like,and then I screamed and screamed,Zelda's dead,Zelda's dead until the fat weird neighbors came over and looked at it.Also, pick up a phone.I mean, it's like 1960 something.Maybe 911 doesn't exist.But you can be like, hello, operator.
01:01:57Connect me to the police, like something.Connect me to the death department.Exactly, of this town.But I love the dad here.He gives her a big hug.He's like, oh, I'm so sorry you to deal with that.Your family's terrible.By the way, remember what I said at your family's terrible?
01:02:10I was right.Also, you need a Valium.And she's like, I don't take Valium.I was like, you do tonight?What is going on?Yeah, let me go to my fun cabinet.Exactly.I mean, like if she says...
01:02:22It's in a leather case, like a scalpel.Also, why do you have Valium?I don't take Valium to you every night.Yeah, no, I'm loaded right now.That would explain his performance.So she takes the kids for Thanksgivingbecause whatever this unspeakable horror is right he's got the weekend to himself and the catdies like immediately and you had one job yeah one job don't kill the cat one job that's it the
01:02:44cat's also neutered keep the i know how to close a door and i have two cats i close a fucking doorevery time nice that's it that's the trick maybe it's an indoor cat now okay yeah like why are youletting it wander outside when you know that there's death everywhere around this house he's got nowhereto go now. Why is he going to go to abar? He has nothing to gain. You totallychopped that dude's social calendar.Like it doesn't matter. Cut his nuts.He's just staying home watching Ellen
01:03:11done the day. Quick thing, by the way,about just one final thing on thiswoman hilariously hanging yourself. Oh, sure,please. Because we got to mentionwe cut to her funeral. Stephen Kingis the minister. Oh, my God.And this is the sad shit ever.He looks like the Joker
01:03:28of Ministers. Well, he kind of actuallylooks like Jim Jones.These fucking glasses.The glasses.Very Jim Joneshaircut right about here.Exactly.This dude has definitely
01:03:37got a cult.But what was weirdwas Fred Gwynand the dadfront row at this funeral?Yeah.What are we talking about?We were tailgating
01:03:48before the funeral.I like the ideathat her motheris behind Fred Gwynn'slike, could you moveyour head by sorry I was here first?Should I show up earlier.I got fucking Herman Munster
01:04:01sitting in front ofof me at a funeral. My daughter's funeral.Can I tell you my thought I kept having duringevery Fred Gwynn scene in this movie?Because his performance is great, his voiceis great, but he's one of those guys where you just go like,how was that a face?And I was like,
01:04:16who else is like that? Ron Perlman.Like every time I see Ron Perlman in a movie,I go like, how is that a face?Ron Perlman, the entire cast of cheers.Every time I look in the mirror,my thought the whole time wasimagining the 60s black and whitesitcom version of Hellboy
01:04:33starring Fred Gwyn. Oh my God, that soundsso good. Right? Yeah. We watch that.Oh, look, it's a littlefish person. What's yourdeal, buddy? You get likea, oh God, you getnothing. I've got nothing. Nothing.That's fine. When creatures go bump in the night,
01:04:50we bump back.I could not think of a singlefucking line. Oh, Rasputans here.That's my favorite line.We're in the second season of the show. Now we've got tofight elves for some reason.They live under the Brooklyn Bridge.It's one of those there, golden armies.
01:05:11Craig Quinn also mentions that this funeral,he's like, ah, sad to see Missy Gore.Had a lot of time left in her, I thought.I was like, yeah.She also had a lot of cancer in her.Stupid God.Now I've got to clean my own goddamn sheets.All right, sorry, Missy, goodbye.
01:05:28Lost the town launderer.Kind of a dick,move on her part.Actually, the funeral part would have made more...In the book, Missy doesn't...She doesn't exist.Oh, okay.He has a wife.
01:05:38That makes a sense.And she has cancer.And she's doing the laundry.Oh, weird.I, at this point in the film,thought to myself,did I miss something?Was this character Fred Gwyn's wife?
01:05:49Because it feels weirdthat we'd spend this much time on someone.There is no reason to change that from the book.No.I don't understand that.And Stephen King wrote this screenplay.So, what are you doing?So the cat,
01:06:01immediately and likeFred Gwyn's like talk to this little girl onceor twice and you know that they're buddiesthey're like work friends kind ofyou may say she's my best friendI mooch off your dad for beerright you mooch up your daughter homeI want to just talk I'm her best friend
01:06:17the thing they don't explain in the movieis that he's also herpreschool teacherright oh sure they cut out all the scenes of goingnow we're going to learn our ABCoh this here is greenyou're my needto know this if you're ever pulled over by Highway Patrol.
01:06:34Let's do it backwards.Ellie, please lead the class.Your Fred Quinn's getting a little walking.Yeah.I don't have one.I'm just doing the best I got.So, yeah, okay.Oh, yeah.
01:06:45Oh, no.Ellie is going to be so up.And the dad is like, oh, well, this is how she's going to learn about that.Oh, no, but Ellie can't take it.And I'm like, what?It's none of your business.This is my...Oh, so you're the one who started telling her that all the pets talk in the Semites.
01:07:0072 hours ago, you took her on a field trip to a cemetery.Mr. Spooky.You told the parents, kids got to learn sometime.Yeah, no.This is no good time.Why now?On Thanksgiving Eve, on, on, no.Ellie will be so devastated.
01:07:17I think it's a thing where he has now had a chance to evaluate her.She flunked the pet cemetery.Oh, I see.No, no, no, she's not ready for that yet.Your kid's a little bit of a loser.Yeah, she didn't get the blue rose.She's going to have to take remedial grief.And this guy is so like, you know what?
01:07:36This is the time.And this is exactly when you go, okay, man.He's like, when somebody tells me how to bury my cat, it's like, all right, dude, I'm going to get it.Yeah, it's getting gold out here.What time is it, Frazier's on?Whatever, you go in.But he's like, no, no, no.I've got this other thing we're going to do.
01:07:50We're going to go much farther out.And we go out into the deep evil pet cemetery.Right.Yeah, they cross the bramble bridge or whatever.I'm another example of like, why aren't they the same cemetery?Yes, why do we need this other thing?Oh, and going with the other thing of like,I don't want to be buried in a pet cemetery.
01:08:11Not that one but the one for the back.No, keep going to the pet cemetery.I don't want to be buried in an Indian burial.Yeah, exactly.This movie's not really about the pet cemetery.Oh, did you take a left?You want to take a right.But when they cross the brambles, and, like, Fred Gwyn's like, shh, oh, no, that was a ghost quake.
01:08:36Like, there's, like, an energy force going on, and it's just like it's a ghost earthquake.That's all I could think of.This is when he's talking about the loon, right?And he's like, it's a loo.Did you read the trivia about this?Yes.And it's in the book, too.There's a Wendigo loose in the woods.
01:08:52Whatever.Not in the movie.You cut out a whole monster from the movie.Hashtag not in the movie.But you hear a growling.For new listeners, what is a Wendigo?When I say new listeners, I mean me.It's sort of like a snow bigfoot, but not quite an
01:09:06abominable snowman.He's a Yeti adjacent.It's like a Native American Yetty-ish cousin or something.And it eats human flesh.I just keep on thinking of the X-Men villain Wendigo.That is a white beast type thing.Yeah, yeah, yeah.But he's kind of the white Sasquatch.
01:09:19Yes.You always repaint the Sasquatch action figures to make the Wendig.What about the white saskwatches?all rightthe Brownsthey're taking the jobthey're takingthe monster money
01:09:33monster moneywe're gonnatax relieffor monster moneyokaythere were badWanda goes on both sidesit is
01:09:44I feel like no one's discussingthe fact that Trumpjust passed a massivetax cut to thehotel Transylvaniahe's no longerabout looking after the 1%he's about looking after
01:09:57literal fucking monsters.Well, we're going to open the Trump HotelCasino in Transylvania.It's going to be fantastic.I did the mash.I did the monster man.And now, Drak's part of the band.We're all having a good time.
01:10:12That's a lyric of that goddamn song.I know.Dracula was a holdout during the monster mashuntil the end of the song.Oh, I see.And now, drag's part of the band.Thank you, Jared, for talking to track.He first succeeded.
01:10:27in the Middle East, and then he got Dracula to join the Monster Man.There's nothing this boy can't do.Folks, Nosferatu, don't we love him, folks?Don't we love Nosferatu?He's such a good friend.So he takes him on this, like, not to be 260 television, a three-hour tour of thisfucking fence cemetery.This is horseship, by the way.
01:10:46There's no way this nine-foot ogre of an old man with a currently breaking skeletonis getting, they're climbing mountains in this thing.This guy was saying he was hanging out in 1924.He's not doing this.That's the other crazy thingis that it's not like,oh, this is my pet cemeteryin my backyard.
01:11:02I'm the keep of this.It's like apparentlyit's part of the narrativeof this whole townthat they know that there's this shitty.Everybody's in on it.But no one else talks about it.It's like he acts like he's the mayor
01:11:13of spooky town.We also don't meet anyone.No, you don't meet anyone else in the town.I need like the general store keep or something.That's another thing where the singlekills herself because of someoblique stomach cancerthat no one could understand.
01:11:28That's another plus to the sequel, too,is there's more, like, Anthony Edwards is meeting more peoplein the community and shit.There's more characters in it.But he has, like, fun, classic horror movie tropeof, like, the whole town is, like, hiding a secret.You want that kind of thing.Everybody's in on it, exactly.
01:11:42Right, even if Fred Gwyn's the face man,it's weird that it's like he's acting like he's the only onewho knows about the time a soldier came back to life.Yes.And walked the streets.This was great.What was his name?Oh, I don't know.
01:11:58Tommy Baderman?Yeah, that sounds right.But he gets him there.Timmy Baderman.He's like, all right, I'm going to stand over here.I have a smoke.You go bury that cat.It's such a good dick move of like, we're right here and he's like, well, what are we going to do?
01:12:10You're going to bury a cat.I got you there.I got you.I took you all the way.Now get digging.He makes it sound like it's like, oh, mystical forces and all.You have to do it yourself.Sorry.
01:12:22But also, I kind of want to smoke.Kind of hard to dig when you're smoking.Get in the shade.Need a nicotine pig.How does this character not end up being the villain?Because you go, if he's actually pure of heart,what reason does he have to suggest that they bring the cat back to it?He knows how slippery a slope it is.
01:12:38He brought his dog back spot who was apparently not like the dog I knew.It was a violent maniac dog.Why are you trying to bring this cat back at all?He's like the keeper of the secret.Yes.Plus you know about Timmy Baderman,who came back from the war,was buried up there and was a fucking zombie that ate people.
01:12:56Oh, Ellie can't handle this.Ellie needs a violent monster cat.That's a husk of her own cat.Instead of dealing with death, which out comes for us all.No, no.Get her a husk of her own dead cat.There's weird selective coddling of Ellie.Oh, I'll make that girl grow up real fast.
01:13:13Here's a life lesson, sweetheart.Zombie cat.So it does turn out to be a zombie cat.The cat looks okay.Smells like shit.Second best performance in the movie.Yeah, that's really good.Yeah, absolutely.
01:13:26A plus cat. This is when we getthe bath where the cat throwsthe fucking dead rat. IMDBhad the gall. The IMDBTribune, which is theAmerica's most trust in music force,had the gall to be like, by the way, did you knowthat's a fake rat? Like, oh, fucking,
01:13:42really? Wow. Do you love this triviaGriffin? Do you ever read IMDB trivia?Oh, not stop. No. No.Have you noticedthe influx of opinionin the trivia section? I'm getting a littleupset about it. Yes. They need regulation there,big time.
01:13:58IMDB needs to,and every movie just do like anop-ed section.Well,what are you expecting?They just hired Brett Stevens.What else are they going to do with it?No,
01:14:05I'm like a big I&B trivia fan.The one that's my favorite is,I don't know if it's still up there,but it was for Batman forever.It's a movie.The true fact was,the name Dr.Chase Meridian is a subtle nod to the fact
01:14:21that she's chasing Batman.What in the world?Might as well say it was a nod to Chase Bank.Right.My favorite IMDB trivia was for the new Power Rangers moviewhere our fans wrote in that in the sequel to it,Gallagher was going to play the Green Ranger.Oh, right.
01:14:39That just shows you.Because it was a reference to our show.I loved it.The inmates are running the asylum.Nobody's watching the store.Nobody, because somebody, they're like, oh,it was something, something about this movie,like, oh, because they wanted to film it in Maine,
01:14:54which, as we know is a good decision.Don't tell me what's a good decision.Tell me the fact, and I'll decide.I, 10 years ago, if not longer, submitted to IMDB for the trivia page of an actor friend of mine,she considers Griffin Newman to be the greatest of her peers.And then in quotes, you know, she has been caught on the record saying,he really is the best actor of my or for that matter really any generation and it has been up there for a decadethat's amazing no attribution i was just like will they accept anything the question is how many people
01:15:35found that helpful i think two or three my parents were very proudolympia ducacus is you got elipia ducais it says that on hergreat fred gwynn thing so they're like having an after burial beer which i was sure yeah you'reor 12.Right, right.And the guy, like, this dude Lewis, he has to, he has to just get it out there.It's been on his mind.He's like, hey, man, they ever bury a person up there?
01:16:02Fred Gwyn goes bowling with these beer bottles and goes fucking hilarious line.Christ on his throne.No.Christ on his throne.Isn't it like, that's like against everything Christ was about.He was a chairmaker.It's a simple carpet.It's a shitty chair.
01:16:22That's not a front.That's a stool.The other thing is, I feel like so much time on an actual set is spent trying to figure out how to make movements like that look unforced.Where it's like, well, we know the director wants him to knock all the beer over.How do you do that in a way where it feels like natural?But he literally just, he goes, you ever bury a kid?And there's full arm swipe.It's ridiculous.
01:16:45He like pushes the beers away from him.I think the move has to be the director shouldn't want him to not.the beer bottles over because nobody woulddo that. Because then he catches them likehe's worried. Oh, what did I do?Oh, my beer! Oh, my beer! Yeah, all theempty bottle. Yeah, he's got to get him back out to thecemetery. They can't break. He's got to bury them
01:17:02later. They cannot break. But you thinkabout Christ on his throne and it stardlesyou because that's a weird image. Yes.But then you're like, oh shit, he might be watching. I don't wantto knock over all this shit.But also, you know what...You know who started this line of thinking?You, Fred, you went by taking me out of the
01:17:18fucking pet cemetery. That's why it feelsLike the whole move, you're waiting for his explanation of his master plan.Exactly.Like, he wanted this all to happen.I knew there would be a new family that moved in here and I would do,I've done it before.I'll do it again.Why do you think they moved out and then before them?
01:17:34The first time the father goes into his house, he's just got these marks, like the marks all over things.Like all the families he's taken down over the years.Yeah, like the side of a fighter jet where you're marking off all of your fucking victims.So, yeah.This is where he takes that bath.He takes the bath. The cat comes back. The cat's evil. It smells like shit. The girl comes back and she's, the girl is pseudo psychic. She keeps having nightmares about what's going on in the movie.Another classic Stephen King thing where it's like everybody's almost kind of psychic. Isn't the ghost boy also visiting her for no understandable reason? She says it's only in her nightmares. Then the mother and the father see the ghost. Right. We never get a scene of her seeing it. But when you're a child and you see a ghost, which is an average thing that happened. You think it's a nightmare, but it's an actual ghost.I mean, she's always saying it's like, I woke up.
01:18:22Yeah.And in the dream, I saw this happen.And also this ghost was there and was like, hey, nice to meet.And she dictates the whole thing.She calls and she's like, I had a dream that the cat got hit by a car.And then you and that fucking old creep buried it in the pet cemetery.And the dude's like, ah, that didn't happen.Never happened.
01:18:40That's the problem.You can't even go like, oh, the parents are like, you know, writing it off.Or the girl is seeing a ghost and assuming it's a dream.Right.Because she's like in her dreams seeing what's going to play out in the next six hoursAnd the ghost is kind of just like Cripkeepering like hosting like he's doing the framing device for the dreamsYes, I think he's just playing a tape of the movie nowHere's what happens in the next scene
01:19:04But again, yeah, it's not to any moral-Not to a moral effect, not to a warning effect, it's like it's going to get really creepy next timeThere's no reason why she has these powersThe seventh craziest thing in the filmWe just have to see kids freak out.in this movie and it's annoying and you also goif the ghost can invade dreams then why is heever showing up at like an airport
01:19:23why is he in any of this any of thislike unless he's trying to get himself buriedin the pet cemetery I don't understandoh that's what it wasthis random jogger but then he's saying like don't doanything right yeah in relation tohe's just like a good Samaritan that diedright before I get into heaven
01:19:39I have to tell this guy like don't fuck upI have to all wait he fucked up also can Isee my family do I have to hang out with my doctorwho actually killed me's familyAlso, can I put a hat onor something? I feel like I'm just bleeding outhere. Ghostbloods. Just some pants.The size are exposed.
01:19:56Joggers, that's embarrassing.Eternity in that. That stinks.Well, Griffin, I think the master plan forFred Gwyn is that he befriendsthis guy and he gets him tobury him in the pet cemeteryand what is moreevil and unable
01:20:12to defeat than a zombieFred Gwyn. Right. I mean, you'retalking Munster's prequel.that's how he startsand then oh in the sequelhim and Clancy Brown just go at itOh that's niceHow about instead of Lewis Creed
01:20:26This guy's actualPaternal name wasFrankensteinOh niceRightAnd then he builds Fred Gwyn againThe more than I think aboutHow much Herman Munster's like an iconic television character
01:20:40How does this movie not take the scoreFor a little walk and it's likeLike just a briefA nice littleHow about a little wink?Ramon's cover of the monsters.It is kind of a weird choicefor like a pretty po-faced horror movie
01:20:56two decades laterto be like we're gonna castthe funniest monster there ever was.The funniest nicest monster.Oh, speaking of, yeah,so speaking of the Ramones,this movie takes way too longto get to what this movie is.
01:21:13So we're having a picnic.And we have this fucking old manwho would, I think,insisted. I think it was a thing we're having a picniclike, oh, it looks like there might be a picnicover there. Wow, picnic, I'll bringa couple of forks. How about we have it righthere next to the Autobahn? Exactly.
01:21:28We're 10 feet from the road. We're having this picnic.We're flying a kite and it's cutting back andforth between like great familytimes on the ranch.And this trucker, listeningto the Ramones going 117miles an hour down the road.And it's like, all right, here's
01:21:43where it's going. They had like a close call with the kidbefore, so we know this kid's attractedto gravel.Sure.He's coming after that road part.This kid's got a death wish.This kid was going to die anyway.Who cares?
01:21:53Right after that first one,they should have gotten one of those electrical collars they put on dogs and just put it onthe baby.He's a runner!Like, we ever see these like child leashes?Oh, yeah.I don't agree with it, but maybe some need it.Or maybe a series of sticks that you could put on the perimeter of a property connected
01:22:11by a cage.But the cats already died at this point.Yes.There is so much.yard to spare.Yeah.And he sends his littlethree-year-old son off with the kite,
01:22:23watches him continue walking in that trajectory,turns back around.Oh, full 180.This is a diaper baby.You've got to pay attention to this shit.You already know the danger of these,you know, the blood boys.You've got a Morton Joe
01:22:38constantly doing like 300 miles per hour.And, oh, I'm going to give him a kitea wind-propelled device.that is going to steer himexactly towards that road.Right.He acts like he doesn't knowthat death exists.
01:22:53That no one's told him about it.And they only clock itwhen the kid's like two steps away.Yeah.Yeah.And man,this pathetic father is running afterhe stumbles like right before it.
01:23:06Oh man.He trips and the kid gets creamed.And I mean,there's some great...This guy hits the brakesso that like the kid really getscreamed. It's just like being crushed.Spoiler for the third act, if you want to mute this for a second,
01:23:21he comes back, this kid should be kid chilly.Like, there's no way.There's like a tiny scar.I was like, this is the greatest mortician that's ever lived.There's, it's a pile of goo.How do you turn a Jackson Pollock painting into that?His bloody shoe rolled on its own with no foot in it.That's unnecessary.
01:23:43I know that this kid is dead.I don't need to see that fucking shoe.But there's nothing.there should be nothing left.You should be a vaporized.Pink mist.It's just like, where do you go?And then you just bury
01:23:56this blood and it becomes a pink mistghost. Oh, I like that.There comes that pink fog that turns everybodyinside out. Because then even at the funeralit's like, I guess it's not open casketbut accidentally the casket gets likejostling. This is one of the most hilariousscenes in cinema. This is like top
01:24:13four cinematic funerals I feel.I love it. Oh my God. Well, because they have thisblood feud already. So they burythe kid. There's some knowing, obviously.Which that's another thing. That's never been pulledoff successful. No one could do it no. No one coulddo it. Not this guy, not Darth Vader, nobody.Just stop with the nose. The caskets
01:24:29sitting in wake. The father-in-lawcomes out and he started screaming like,I knew this would happen when she married you.You knew the kid was going to get hit by a truck.The kid wasn't even born yet. What are you talking about?My second kid, by the way, one successful.Based on what?They get into a physical altercation where the coffin
01:24:47falls on the floor.All I could think aboutwas one of the greatest linesfrom clerks when he says,her fucking body fell out.It just...It nearly falls out.It kind of opens a little bit.
01:24:57You see the little...You see the arms.But the dad's saying, like,I know this was going to happenand then let you have two children.It's like when people,like, after someone's revealedto be a murder one,
01:25:08like, I always had a bad feeling.It's like, what brownie points do you want?You didn't protect anything from happening.I called it.I called it.I called it.At least I had the decency to chain my kid to a bed.It's the quiet ones you've got to watch.
01:25:22Oh, I knew that was going to happen.That's why I always let my kid sleep there.It's like, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.45 years ago, I told everyone, never go out to a bar with Harvey Weinstein.It's like, well, but then, I mean, what, what?Well, that's helpful, thank you.I said it into my pillow when I went to bed.Like, who gives this shit?
01:25:39Yeah.But why this funeral is great.So, hilarious casket drop.Yeah.Fist fight.Then this father-in-law, after he knocks his,dude now gets some Robert De Nirokicks in on him while he's on the ground.
01:25:50You're kicking the shit out of your son-in-lawin a church. Awesome.It's also like the most destabil-like up until nowit has been a hallmark movie.And all of a sudden it's a scene from husbands.Yeah.Like the camera's right in your face
01:26:03it's like levitate and going like, what the fuck?And then my guy holding him back.Oh, that's my favorite guy.He is the voice of reasons.He grabs the dad by this shirt collarand he's like, this is your son's funeral.Knock it off.And he's like,
01:26:16I didn't start the fucking fight.Go to that guy.Also, why did you name your son, Gage Creed?What is that about?Is he fighting Rocky?He wanted him to grow up to be an ultimate fight.Or a bounty hunter is definitely.That kid is wearing...
01:26:31Hell yeah.That could get to dust on his 18th birthday.For sure.Wait, so he could be like professional extreme fighter.What did you just say?Bounty hunter.Definitely a professional dog trainer.Sure.
01:26:43Like, oh, I'm Gage Creed.I'm going to train you dog.that can have that's on the professionthat's also a bounty hunter accentI could see this guy inMandalorian armor rightgauge creedoh yes I'd buy that comic book
01:26:56Gage creed he probably takes overfor Steve Irwin after hisOh sureYeah he could do thatWasn't Gage Creed in Shadows of the EmpireSo they bury this kidAnd they're like you know we're gonna fuck offto Chicago
01:27:10The dad at least the father-in-lawHas the good gracelook, I was hopped up on Coke.I shouldn't have fucking done railsbefore your son's funeral.Sorry about those Robert De Niro kicks.Are we friends?I mean, for what?
01:27:25And also, I would say, if anyone came up to meon my father, my fucking son's funeral,like, yeah, it's like Mardi Gras, bitch.I could do whatever my wife.I'm bearing a three-year-old boy today.I'm going to go fuck somebody.I'm going to go drink for three days.You can't touch me.
01:27:38You can't touch me for at least a month.I essentially have diplomatic immunity.It's the end of lethal weapon, too.Kidplomatic immunityThe crazy thing is that the takeaway from the funeral isI think we should go spend a little time with my fatherThe guy who instigated the fightShe sides with the dad
01:27:57You need some spaceYou're clearly going through some shitYou allowed my father to punch youLook you're rightI shouldn't have brought a baseball bat to the funeralI'm sorry I didn't mean to do itThis is my fault my faultBut the thing is like they're like
01:28:10Oh we have to go back to ChicagoAnd the little girl's like daddy daddy you're going to comeHe's like, I got some things to wrap up here, which is like, I don't know, like, I work at a fucking college hospital.Maybe someone's got herpes.Like, what on earth is so pressing that you can't leave?People are getting tested.You just said it.Yeah, I guess that's it.
01:28:26He doesn't know how to get his scalpel through security.It's also, this is like the last job before he bottoms out.Oh, I see.Yeah, that's true.Yes.And then the other thing is, like, you got like, he, doesn't he say to Denise Crasby, like,it's a good opportunity.maybe you'll finally be able to come to terms with your
01:28:44sister's death. This storyis your emotional journey. Yourproblem now. Right. And then to thedaughter, it's like, I think it's betterif you spend a little time away from your father, he'sgrieving. So let's go back to yourgrandfather who brought a sackfulof oranges to a funeral.
01:29:00So he could beat the shit at your fatherwithout leaving bruises. Oh, bythe way, oh, where we're going to go? It's a haunted castle.Don't worry. Don't worry. It's just a haunted castle.I wouldn't worry about it. So theygo. Andobviously first thing this guy's going to go to is the pet cemeteryand like that stop and now you know
01:29:17we've got fucking Fred Gwyn looking at his shoesbeing like you shouldn't go to the pet cemeterylike two fucking late tall guyshe's like I know what you're thinkingI was the first thought when you saw him get turnedinto that pink mist was bury him in the pet cemeterybecause now he's told him the storythis is where he tells him he's like I lied to you before
01:29:35because he's like you know Christ on his throneno no one ever tried that he's likeI lied beforewe totallyThis is amazing.We tried it so hard.And this military vets wandering the town, biting random people,to the point where Fred Gwyn and the gang have to burn his house down with him in it a lot.
01:29:53This makes no sense.His father is in there and is like, better get out before I burn you all the alive.This dude comes back like fucking Bud the Judd.He's running around and the dad is trying to do the whole like, and you've seen thisin like, good boy, you don't understand.Yeah, I mean, you've seen this in like newer zombie things now where it's like, no, that's my kid, whatever.I'm sure Walking Dead has done it a thousand times.Sure.
01:30:16Yeah.And so the guy is like, no, no, no.Like there's a dude who plays like young Fred Gwynn from behind.Yeah.Which is great.It's like, you better get out of there.They're going to burn it.And it's like, why just fucking caught off the head or destroy the brain?
01:30:30It's a zombie, dude.Don't burn this house down.Isn't it like identical to Bob Clark's death dream almost exactly, like the vet coming home andbecoming a zombie and thennot being able to kill it. It's pretty similar.The other thing is, correct meif I'm misremembering here,he serves in war.
01:30:49He gets sent home.He gets sent home.Which, here's the dramaticirony. He made it all the way back hometown.He gets hit by a car.Does he not? They say something abouthe died on his way.Right, on his way back to the house.
01:31:06It has to be some for him.accident. Which againthe moral of the story is change yourfucking traffic laws. Yep. I meanthis is like the 1940s it's been happeningsince. What is the fuck is going on?He probably got hit by a wagon.Let me Craig. Going 240.
01:31:24A lot of horse power.I feel like you know what they burn this housedown. I would go if I'm the dad, I go to thefucking town council the next day. I'm likeyou know my son was a zombie.Did you need to burn my? Like that'sall I had. I had. I lostthe kid. Does he make it out of the house? No, the zombie takes him to hell with him. That's what's good. It's good. It's fucking hilarious. The dad tries to get out and the dude gives him like a big zombie bear hug. And then you see this guy's legs catch on fire. Yeah. At that point, you should just die. You should just die. You know your house is going to be gone. Your son's gone. Just die. Just shut up and leave everyone alone. It is also so muddy like what the reviving process does to them.
01:32:08yes yeah because it's likeI mean not to jump ahead butMiko Hughes it's like half the time he's likechucky and it feels like he's justhaving fun right yeahit's just for sportand half the time it feelslike is this like they do they need
01:32:22this for sustenance right yeahyeah what with the throat anythingI mean let me seeNico Hughes when he goes back to lifehe's kind of like little Jokerhe's like the Jokerlike revived dead kidsI've never seen
01:32:35a kid this twisted I've neverbefore you're going to hear a DorisLance. Doing it for the lulls.It's like he finds murder funny.It's just crazy that they buried him in the purplesuit and it was so weird.So weird. Where did you find purple velvetthat kid's size? They put a giant
01:32:52fish in there with him.A lipstick fish.And a whoopee cushion.A big mallet.A little girl fromStaten Island next to it?They both went down there.So the dad is
01:33:05undeterred by this fucking story ofpure horror.I want to visit that upon my little babykid. He probably wasn't even listening, honestly.It's not even that. It's like so muchworse than that. He's like, Fred Quinn's like,well, it's going to come back andyou might have to get. He's like, yeah, I'll kill my kid
01:33:21again. Yeah, I'm ready to do it. Let's go. Let's gofucking kill my kid. He has someline where he's like, and if he comesback wrong, I'm just going to put himto sleep again. And I was like, remember when you said you weren't aveterinarian? Yeah, I'm a doctor.I'm so good at knowing when things aredead or alive. The other
01:33:39thing is, I think Fred Gwyn saysthe, you know, I didn't tell you the truth.The thing I didn't think you're right at here.Sometimes dead is better. Right.And you do have them over where you're like, this is FredQuinn. He's giving a great performance. It's clearlythe iconic line. Right. And then they comeback from the flashback and he says it like
01:33:55form. Yeah. And you justget the sense on set. They had no restraint.They were like, I don't know. Should we just like quadrupleddown on it? That's clearlythe trailer moment. We really want everybodyto know. Sometimes dead isbetter. So you see sometimes dead isyou hear it once in the trailer
01:34:11and you're like well I better hear it like four timesthe movie. The movie better bethat but more. You need at least four timesto make a t-shirt out of it after it comes out.He just says it in a row. It's likeit's like he's stuck like the record islike skipping. Well yeah he's got Alzheimer'sit's. He's probably loaded. Yeah. You know.
01:34:29But that's not my favorite line of the movie. My favorite line of the movieis while this is all going onwe're in the creepy haunted castle in Chicago.Right. Yeah. The devil in the whitecity happened actually we're sitting around and was that h h holmes yeah yeah he's like the joker of chicagoyes he's also a doctor the windiest joke they're like we got to call we got to call back so youuh how my father's doing et cetera yeah they call they don't get anything and you know denise crosbie's worriedand the mother is like oh honey don't worry about it he's just probably it's a man he's alone for the
01:35:02weekend he's out having a hamburger or a chicken dinner and i don't know about you guysdo they walk down the road they eat a full chicken that's i mean my girlfriend my wife goes out of townyou know i draw the blind i open the computer and i have a full chicken dinner dude i order thefucking jake blues four front chickens and a coke immediately the second the door closes when she'sgone men are pigs aren't they they just the chicken chicken he's breathing he's gonna walk along the roadfor 10 to 15 miles and eat one full chicken just kill a chicken honey in a sittingHoney, honey, honey.Just listen, your father, he ate chicken dinners all the time when I was away.
01:35:42And he didn't tell me about it.Be happy that he tells you about it.We can't change men.That's twisted.I'm so sorry, I had a chicken dinner.I love you.While you were away, I went to the Italian restaurant.I had the chicken breadingada.
01:35:55I had the chicken bread together.It's just important that you told me.It was a chicken dinner.I'm sorry.It was a hamburger sandwich.I'm sorry.Yeah, she definitely should have called it.in a hamburger sandwich.
01:36:07She does call either oreither a hamburger sandwichor a chicken dish.But does she sayhamburger sandwich?Oh, I think she just sayshamburgers.You're probably right.
01:36:13You're probably right.But they make these parentsare like they were born in the 1860sso she definitely should have said hamburger sandwich.Now be honest with mewas this the only chicken?Or were there other chicken dinners?What?
01:36:28You didn't have a roast, did you?You tell me if you had a roast.Well, uh, I'm going to go to the doctor tomorrowbecause someone brought a chicken dinnerinto our house. Someonedid it. You know I am a doctorno, not thatdoctor. Wait, you knocked up the chicken
01:36:43dinner. Chicken doctor.So heyou know, he hangs out in thisgraveyard. He brings shovels during thedaytime and I feel like there shouldbe a gravekeeper. He was like, you know, dude, no.That's my job. But he's got it. He waitsfor nightfall. Wait a minute, wait. That's my
01:36:59I'll take it from here. The petcemetery? Oh, you want to dig him backup. Oh, yeah, right. He goes to thereal graveyard to dig upgauge cream. The cops come by, the lights flashand he just sort of stays still and theydon't catch him. You have to imagine if you're police in thistown, you got to know the number
01:37:15one thing to look out for. Yep.Grave digging. Because you don't want another Timothywhatever his name is. And especially afterthe death of a kid. You're patrolling that grave likeat least twice. To do the rounds but notlook hard enough to find him when hedoesn't even bother to hide.Right. It's insane. It's almost
01:37:32like not putting a stop sign on the fucking mostdangerous road in the world. It's kind of alsoon Fred Gwyn because Fred Gwynn knows exactlywhat's going to happen and instead of sittingwith his warm six pack infront of the cemetery he falls asleepon his porch to be all right so there'sa couple things about Fred Gwynne here Fred Gwynn is like
01:37:47oh no I'm going to stop them I'm going to siton my porch and I'm going to give him peace of my mindstern talking tomaybe not everything needs to be a partymaybe we can hold themaybe we can get a fucking cup of black coffeeso we stay awake for thisto happen instead of like well I got to get my buzz
01:38:03on sometimes buzzed isWhich, by that, I mean all the time.He ain't wrong, man.He is not wrong.But he digs this kid up.And, like, also, the question is, like, death certificates.What are you going to do in this?Like, we publicly buried this kid.
01:38:19But it's 1989.You could really get around anything back then.Oh, it's my kid, Rage.Oh, Gage is dead.Rage is a lot.Yeah, exactly.Rage was too upset to attend the funeral.It's sort of how he was able to escape his past as a bad doctor in Chicago.
01:38:33God, go to Maine.It's just started a new life.it's fun. So heburies the kid.Fred Gwyn falls asleep. The kid comesback to life. Denise Crosbyafter the chicken dinner fiascois like, oh, you know what, mom, I'm going to leave.
01:38:48I'm going to fly back. It's kind of a bit of ahome alone. I was just going to say she's like fuckingCatherine O'Hara. Where does she sit in a van withJohn Candy trying to get back to this house?But then also you have this ghost appearing to her likeit's Griffin Dunn in AmericaWarwolf in London where he's like sort ofdoing like quippy commentary. And he's
01:39:03helping out though. And that's this weirdinconsistency with this ghost, it's like, are youin this girl's dream only?Right. But she, like he holds the gatedoor open at the airport.Yeah, but they still miss the flight. So he's justlike, uh, we missed our connectionin Boston. I don't know. I'm just to go,
01:39:19should we rent a car? Can you drive to Maineright now? Ghost speaks to the daughteronly in the form of dreams.Yeah. speaks to the father, direct conversation.Yeah.Denise Crosby's interaction with the ghost seems like the ghostsays something and then she suddenly has the ideain her head. Yes. And he pulls this over also
01:39:35on that fucking a rental agencywoman because she's like, we don't have any carsand he's like, what about that one that's got scratcheson it? It's like he's the Ben Kenobiof ghost. Yeah, he's like forced mind tricking.So yeah, she's like hitting the road to get back.The car has a flat tireand the ghost appears again and he's like
01:39:53oh, they're trying to prevent you for makingit. I was like, who the fuck are they? What are you talkingabout? And also, don't you know the gig is upby now? Like the best thing for Denise Crosbyis to stay away from the house.Like, you're not, you, the kidis in the ground, do not, you can'tprevent this anymore. But does she know about
01:40:09I mean, does she understand what happened withchurch? No, she doesn't, she'snot hip to the cat. Let's be fair.It's not like she would go like, fuck. I think if I gohome, there's a risk that my zumbifiedson. Well, no, but if you're a ghost that hasall the cards, he's the one. He's like,a hundred percent. He's like, come
01:40:25on. It's like, no, the game, the gig is up.Like, that's over. Like, stay with the kid. He's avery unhelpful ghost. And whyis he so invested?Like, he should be like, oh, they didn't do thatfor me didn't put me in the fucking pet cemetery.I just got buried. How rude.I think it's like that's his heaven assignment.
01:40:41Like it's a really tough one. It's like,you have to make sure this shit doesn't go down.Oh, Clarence, George Bailey is going to bury his kid in the pet cemetery.You better go stop him.I want my son to live again.It's confirmed none of this is going to work because when they finally get back to Mainefrom hitchhiking in a truck that may or may not have killed.I think it killed the dude who is on this journey with her.
01:41:03She's right shotgunwith the Polka King's in the band.But he's, the ghost guystays in the truck and drives onwith the truck driver.I think because his assignmentfailed with this family,now he's going to haunt the trucker
01:41:18who killed him.It's just this arbitrary.He's like, I can't go any further.They're at the fucking front door.He's like, that's it for me.I'm going to keep hitchhiking with this guy.My favorite part is when she triesto get on the next flight
01:41:31and there's that old couple.and she's trying to barter with jewelry and he goes,oh no, she's got a big drawer full of them, a dangly one.That is my favorite line in any movie, top five.The other crazy thing is, though,the fact that the ghost refers to the father by name on his deathbedbefore he becomes what is clearly a ghostimplies that this was faded in some sense.
01:41:57Yes, yeah.That like the death of the jogger is in some way tied to this larger thing,which is when I'm waiting for the reveal,that Fred Gwyn has been pulling the strings.Yeah.He's been pulling the fucking bottles out of the...That's all he's been pulling.Like a flashback of Fred Gwyn
01:42:10just like shoulder checking this dude into traffic.Yes, all right.He's just watching joggers.He like puts his leg out and trips him into the road.You want to reveal that he Mr. Glass style.Yes.Exactly.Which is he's pushing people into traffic.
01:42:24They call me Mr. Gwyn.So the kid comes back.The kid comes for Fred Gwyn first.As he should.And now we've got literallyI knew it was comingI've seen this movieThis is probably my third or fourth time seeing it
01:42:40It is the most viscerallyI react to any gore in any movie everThis is your first time watchingYeah the two Gwyncuts are roughIt's really toughAnd they're at this weird level of likeThey're just realistic enoughTo really upset you
01:42:57YeahLike physically upset youBecause it doesn't go into crazy Samurai mespurts of bloodand just likewhat are tworeally bad placesto get cut?
01:43:06Like the cornerof the mouth thingis blocked.It's a little.I don't know how we got those guys.It's exactly the Joker.You're right.It's the Achilles tendon though
01:43:17that makes me just all of my hairgoes up.But to bring it backto child's playit's like this little doll hand.It's chilling to seea little doll handholding your scalpel.
01:43:28All this porcelain doll handthat comes out.And I was like going likethey're havingthe kid do a lot of this.Why didn't they want him to do this shot?There's certain insert shots from certain angleswhere it's clearly a doll's hand,
01:43:39which does, when you have the soundtrack,as the kid going, he-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h.And he's just sort of like jogging around.Yeah.It does feel like, is this just for kicks?Yeah.He's having a great time.Right. Is he just like a haunted Pinocchio?
01:43:54Well, he says that he's playing with him.And then when the mother comes,he says he's played with Mommy as well.Right, right.So, I mean,he really is like the Jokerof Pet Cemetery. You do kind of wantsome sort of rule of like this is
01:44:08what burying the people here does.It exemplifies whatever'snatural in their behavior. If there wassome idea that's like it heightens it toan evil degree. Or even a demonyou leave and a demon takes your bodyor some. Whatever it is. But I just can'tfigure out the rules of like what's the end game
01:44:24here? Because he also starts pulling likesome saw shit. Yes. Yeah.He's like laughing around. He's like doingsome jumps care stuff. It's like bluby trap andBy the way, are we saying that like every Native American who was buried came back as a zombie?Or are we saying only white people buried there becomes zombies?Fred Quinn has some line where he's like, that's why the Indians stopped using it.Once they realized it was crooked.
01:44:48That's one of those bad ones.Every so often you get a bad graveyard.But if that's the case, somebody put up a sign.Someone put up a sign.Certainly don't refer anyone.I mean, there's just so much tragedy that could be avoided with just a couple ofquick signs. I'll say I really like sour things. I love like sour candy and like sourbeer or anything and it's one of those words I always find appetizing like crispy. If anything
01:45:12decides it's crispy. So the amount of times that this like last chunk of the movie betweenthe ghost and Fred Gwynn that someone says the ground is sour. I know it's supposed to bemessy but every time I go like I want to eat that. The dirt sounds great. The dirt sounds sofucking good. The dirt has blue flavor now. That's why I'm like it's like wild raspberries.It's got gummy worms in it.It's a screaming green apple.Neon glowing ground.It's also got a lower ABV, but it's actually pretty nice.
01:45:43The ground is sponsored by warheads?Oh, nice. I miss those.It's been a while.My favorite dichotomy of the kid, it's obviously a little kid actor, a three-year-old actor.And you have to, you know, you do the shining thing where you tell him other things.You know for a fact.The kid, Miko Hughes, does it, where Fred Gwyn.has been, you know, cut in the Achilles
01:46:03tent and cut in the mouth, and it's like,do you want to give him a raspberry on his neck?Yep, definitely.And he's like, and they make the noise.It's awesome because, like, when they cut.That's the part that's adorable.Everything else is terrifying. That part's adorable.But when they have to cut back to like what is supposed to be the kid
01:46:20then like moving off of him and there's a piece of his throat likeattached to the kid's mouth, it's clearly a my buddy and mewith like gore on its mouth and some effects guy just yanks it off of Fred Gwyn.My buddy.Yeah, dude.Classic commercial.Whatever he kills, I kill my buddy.Classic haunted toy, man.
01:46:39Oh, definitely.Cursed.So this dude's dead.And then she gets back and...We turn it to like a house of horrors immediately.I love that that's at Fred Gwyn's house, by the way.Yeah, don't, you know what?At the very least, that guy's house should burn to the ground.
01:46:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.Did I go to sleep?Do they not show the Denise Crosby getting murdered?They don't show it.They don't show it, which is fucked up.So she just falls out of the rafters hung.Right, this dude gets to the house and he's investigating.How did a baby hang a grown woman?
01:47:11And they also, I mean, first she sees her sister.She sees Zelda.Oh, right.And so it's like, can the kid transform?Like, that's what you go, like, is there some demonic spirit that's like...And then just do that.Otherworldly.Or these just zombies.
01:47:25Also, the kid is dressed at this part when he kills his mother finally, like Tom Pettyand the don't come around here no more video.Yes, that was my exact note.What the fuck is with this?Where did he get this hat?I don't get it.It's an amazing baby hat.It's an amazing baby hat.
01:47:40Is that what they buried him?I know.We buried him in his best top hat.Looks like Little Lord Fauntler, right?It's so awesome.He's missing a big lolly in bloomers.It's Danny DeVito and Big Fish.Yeah, but he does kind of, we do see him like stab his mom once or twice.
01:47:58Right.And then we cut to whatever.Yeah, we mean.miss him tying the noose, hanging it overlike Kevin McAllister. Wragging her up tothe attic rigging it so that it willfall at the right moment. And hidingFred Gwyn's body under that bed
01:48:11and putting the cover down over it.I couldn't move Fred Gwyn. I could not.Dare I say this is when he really starts tofeel Joker ass. It feelslike it's less about the bloodlustand it's more about that he likes watching peoplescream. But if hecan do that Zelda stuff where he's making it, that's more
01:48:27of a scarecrow move. Yeah, that's true.are you think he's got like those toxins?Yeah, yeah.Oh, it's a little kid fear gas, dude.So the dad, by the way, of course,this dad sleeps like a rock through anything.He wakes up and he's like, oh, I overslept after I buried my kidin the pet cemetery.
01:48:44Right.And what's the first thing he does when he wakes up?He checks his scalpel.Yeah, that's what I would do.Well, at least now he's got the foresight enough to load his syringe with whatever kills things.Kill juice.Yeah, it's a kill juice.He puts a bunch of kill juice.
01:48:58He finds the cats.on his way over to Fred Gwyns, kills the cat,injects it.With a steak, which, I mean, I know the cats, like, eat meat and whatnot,but, like, in any kind of movie or literature or whatnot,the steak, that's a dog distraction.It is a dog distraction.We're going to fish out of the fridge.
01:49:14But a demonic cat is just a dog.Oh, sure.Second favorite line of the movie behind the chicken, which is,come on, church, come on and eat it.It's Thanksgiving Day for dead cats.I'm like, what are we the dog?Dude, that line is trauma-esque.great new holiday idea
01:49:30and he kills the catand then like he goes into the houseI kind of like this third act littleyou know where it's I'm this movie I think is creepyat this point I'm not yeahit's super creepy because I mean especially becausesometimes it's a little kid running aroundsometimes it's clearly a puppet with
01:49:46I got a thing with puppets they freak meright the fuck out you know that's helpingand then the other thing is when it is Miko HughesHughes but it is Miko Hughesdoing it feels like the only direction they gave himwas have fun, which makes it creepier.They're not directing him like a creepy kid.Yeah.
01:50:05I mean, he's just doing it for the long.This is my point.Disturbing.No, but between the puppet and a kid gleefully, like,celebrating clearly off of like misdirectionfrom the crew, you know?I mean, it's been proven in movies over and over againthat kids can be creepy if everything else around it
01:50:24is set and shot like a creepy thing.Right.And then they're having fun because this movie does it.They do it.I've brought this upon the show before.There's that shotin insidias
01:50:31where Patrick Wilsonlooks to the cornerof the roomand there's a little kidwith his back to himand he's dancingin front of a gramophone.And it's like
01:50:40and he's in this likesailor outfitand then it's justthis creepy fuckinglike monster child.I wonder if this wasa formative moviefor James Wan.
01:50:49Like not his favorite moviebut if this was onehe saw a specific agebecause even just the puppet shit.I know that's not in universebut it feels likeHe's like, man, puppet, like little puppets doing things.Yes, no, absolutely.
01:51:02If this little kid had, like, a little red tricycle, I'd be very suspicious.And he is rigging up these traps to try to teach him the meaning of life.Want to play a game.I just have this image of Miko.He was like, hitting a beam like, nah, not right there.That's not a load-bearing one.Okay, all right, right, shit.Well, his father just sleeps.
01:51:24Wee, wee, wee, wee, wee.If you're having zombie stroes, I mean, that,That will knock you right the fuck out.Well, he had to hitch a ride with one of those trucks to the 24-hour hardware story.He had to buy all this stuff.I do love that Fred Gwyn just has all that rope hanging around.Yeah, he's a rope.Well, I mean, he knows where he's going.
01:51:41But he sort of has that complicated knot.Like, he's like tied a harness around their shoulders.You know, it's not just like, right?With Fred Gwyn, you see like these loops.Yes.Oh, that's how he moved.He's going underneath his arms.Yeah.
01:51:53Oh, man.So it's like he died and he came back a zombie boy scover.It was pretty.Or zombieSlipknot from suicideThe only guy more twisted than the joke.That was a guy that used likeropes and rope guns.
01:52:08His name's Slipknot.He can escape from anything and then theyimmediately kill him.I always imagine there's thisthe one guy in the audience likeOh, Slipknot. Favorite character?Jima Slipknot. Oh man.And you're reading Adam Beach. That guy was
01:52:24on SVU. Awesome.Yeah, totally. It's also one of those thingswhere, like, you could see how Warner Brothersdidn't get what worked with Marveland we're like, they like it when they're like a lot of characters,right? Like, they're going to like all the characters.Tons of slip-knot merchandise.And I'm talking about, like, action figures,
01:52:40but it's like, oh, you can get your, like,slip-knock notebooks.Oh, yeah, man.They sell full-sized slip-knock cardboard cutouts.Somehow Captain Boomerang makes it to the end of that movie,whatever, dude.Yeah, they thought spin-off.Yeah.
01:52:53There was, like, a variety article that was, like,Warner's is feeling pretty confident aboutCaptain Broomerang.Everybody loves Jai Courtney.Dude, that guy, he's had so many chances.He's had a lot.He's had a lot of chances.I mean, he's tall.
01:53:06Great. Congratulations.He's tall.As my podcast co-host, David Sims says,he's got a nice big potato head.Sims is not wrong there.He's got a big potato head.But speaking of enormous heads,Pet Cemetery, Jason Clark,
01:53:20that's a ham on his head.Absolutely.That thing has dimensions and dimensions.He's a golden-eye character.Fred Gwynne,one in the tallest heads.Yeah.Replaced in the sequel,
01:53:29I know it's not the samecharacter with Clancy Brownwho's another big head man.Absolutely.And there's go huge head.Absolutely.He's got like a fucking turkey on top.Fred Gwynn played one of the
01:53:39stone heads in Rapa Nui.Sick trivia.So there is an end to this movie eventually.So he's got the kill juice.He goes into the house.He finally gets a hold of this childafter being cut a little bit.And the kid, right, slices him up.
01:53:57and dices. But the kid, I mean, we're not suredoes the kid have supernatural powers?Right. Or does he, like, because I wouldfucking punt this thing into thenext county. I'm sorry. And alsothe kid doesn't seem to want to kill his fatherbecause he's just sort of dicing up,having fun with everyone else, he goes straight
01:54:13for like the pain point.I was, because I hadn't seen this in a while and I was like,is it a thing where he's like, well, you're theone who buried me and brought me back, so youget a pass. I'm going to cut you a little bit,but it's just fun. And hereally goes for it. But you're right, Steve,because if you fucking kicked him, you know what it would be?
01:54:28It would be a fucking puppet getting kicked out of weird.Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun.He'd be so good.But instead he just injects him in the neck with this kill juice.This kid's got like a little final line too.No fair.No fair.Does he says, oh, you're no fun.
01:54:42No fun.Oh, man, awesome.And then there's like legit footage of this kid falling over and hitting his head on a door,which legitimate laughs.And then all those penguins take him out.Penguin Viking funeral.But even it's weird.that, like, you know,
01:54:59church, right?Oh, it's a cat.The Tomcat, like to scurry aboutsometimes catch a rat or whatever,comes back a little more feral.He drops the rats in some unpleasant places.Right, but not, you know, out of character.It's not trying to rip your neck out.
01:55:16This kid comes back, goes straight for the scalpel.Like, goes into his father's briefcase,opens it up, finds the utensils he knows he needs.Very strange.It's not like they've characterized him as like,this kid can't stop playing games when he's alive.They could have made it a thing of like.They should have done that.
01:55:33I'm playing games with you.Or oh, my scalpel is not for you, little.Yes, you know what I mean?Telegraph that shit.Right.It's called writing.People complain about when things are too telegraphed,but there's a reason why.
01:55:45Yes.It's because it makes payoff satisfying.It's why it's like a basic tenant of storytelling.Right, right.Absolutely.Oh, man.So, yeah, this kid's dead, which is great.And then he decides
01:55:57RollsTotally ruleYou knowAnd againThis speaks a lotAbout how I thinkI'm just likeThe littest bit of a sociopath
01:56:04Because like that kid diedNothingNeither timeThat kid or the catOh my GodI was looking at my dogIn the other roomLike getting kind of fucking
01:56:12MistyLike he fucking diesNext to that steakI was like oh noWell he saysYou knowI love itHe's yelling at the cat
01:56:19He's likeNow you're deadStay deadAnd the cat's likeIt's your faultmotherfuckerI didn't want thisin the first place
01:56:27kind of up to youso he winds uphe's like oh but nowI actually kind of likethis ending where he'slike it is sort of likethat's so likeoh it's cinemas in
01:56:37so stupidbut it makes sensebecause it's likeoh it's been likeyou knowI like he's so over itat this pointhe buries his wife
01:56:44and it's likeyou knowI didn't have enough timeyou know what I meanand now that she's freshershe won't come backsociopathic and monstrousand it's like no
01:56:52no where are you gettingthat from dude that's that's not information this is another like this should be sort of a satisfying endto like a story about one man's hubris yeah sure yeah exactly you know that he hubristically thinks he cankeep on beating death yeah yeah but instead because this guy is such a wet blanket yes you just kindof go like what this fucking dummy yeah stupid soap opera face i can tell you exactly why he did it it'sbecause it has nothing to do with the learning and he less it's because he knows what he hasto do next is go to Chicago and talkto Robert De Niro, who's
01:57:28going to take him out.I'd rather get murdered by myzombie wife than have to deliver that news.This is the move. You get yourzombie wife, you get her a plane ticketto Chicago. Oh, nice.You kind of just get her out of your areaso you can't be a victim?
01:57:43Dude, get her back to the house and then set her offon the in-laws, close the door.Exactly. Or lock her in the back ofthe truck or whatever and drive her toChicago and just unleash her on her ownfamily. Also, oh yeah, go ahead. Oh, no, if you want togo nuclear, you put fuckingFred Gwynn in that pet cemetery and now
01:58:00the entire East Coast falls.At the end of it. Like, literally there's no stopping.I mean, that's how you build a franchise.Yeah, you can end with, it's like just this likespace shot of America and like all the lightsare going out. He's like the Thanos ofzombies because he's like created everyzombie that's ever existed.
01:58:15Also, though, he, oh, go ahead. No, no, I wasjust going to say, I mean, the other thing abouthim, you know, seemingly just not wantingto face his daughter and deliver her the bad news.The daughter, we breeze past this, but keeps on going on and on about, like, is there anychance he comes back?Yes.Like, couldn't God do it if he really wanted to?
01:58:32We've got to keep all his stuff the same.So the daughter has this whole flaky sense of death that you go, like, it's not even bad enoughthat the dad would have to get on a plane and go to the daughter and be like, so your mom's dead.He has to be like, your mom's dead because I tried to bring your brother back to life.The thing I told you was impossible.It is possible.I shouldn't have done itShe's going to be in New York
01:58:53And with a new lifeShe's got husband and kids and everythingAnd she's bringingLike when one of her kids diesShe brings it to the local pet cemeteryThinking things are going to be greatOf courseYeah absolutely
01:59:03It's a shortcutIt's an easy answerThis will happenThis is goodDon't worryThe dad would probably still be likeOh but the catThat definitely ran away
01:59:11Yeah rightThere's a bullLike it's bullshit thoughWhere he's likeOh you just freshly diedI can bury you whateverBecause he spends all of that extra timefucking burning down the house.
01:59:21Yeah. You see this little puppet go upin flames, this little kid puppet. Oh,funny. It's very satisfying to see that. I lovedit. It's my favorite part of the movie.And you could have licensed the song, too.You got the talking head. Oh, yeah, it's just, it's likethe match falls on the gas.It would be great. Watch out. Yeah, that would love it.
01:59:39It's another thing, too. If he's optimisticand he believes that she's going to bebrought back to life as normalbecause she's fresh,why does he burn down the house first? Doesn't hewant to assume that he cango back to a normal domestic bliss?Oh, no, it's Fred Gwynn's house.
01:59:55Oh, right, yes, yes. That guy deservesnothing. That's fine. He was going to burn downhis house anyway for different reasons. We'll finally have aview. He's got a nephewthat was eye in that house for years. Oh, are youfucking kidding? It's a good plot ofland. Right off the Fury Road.Right around the corner from the pet cemetery
02:00:13in that other cemetery.Oh, yeah, you got all sorts of ghoulishspokes to look at from the top corner.I'm awaited in Valhalla.So when Denise Crosby comes back,because she's got that eye socket, just spewing ooze,and he's just like, I guess we should just make out.Oh, dude, yeah, and there's some serious tongue kissing
02:00:31and the fucking goop gets back in their mouth.Ew.Trade in goop.My whole thought was like, what did that taste like?You're eating like prop goo.Probably salty.I feel like it'd be sweet.I feel like isn't like...
02:00:43Prop goop, but like, whatever was actual goo?Oh, the actual goo?Salty.That's salty.Or maybe it's sour.Maybe it's a little sour.If you sourced it from an actual cemetery, you mean?Ooh, baby, your fucking eye socket tastes like a warhead.
02:00:57But Griffin might be like a goo pound.If you found...I might be a goo pound?Yes.If you tasted dead ooze and it's salty.Oh, you're saying I might love it.Yes.I thought you were accusing me of reading Gwyneth Paltrow's website.
02:01:14Nobody would say such blasphemy.I would never.Your question wasn't, what do you think,fake goop, taste it likeon set. Your answer was, what doesvial taste like? Famously bad.I feel like people use it as an example.But you want to eat sour dirt, so you might
02:01:31like it. Yeah, they said sour. It's got a nicelittle, it's in the nameright now. I think salty goop.Dead might be sour. I think a little sweetfrom the, it's that sweet, a little salty fromthe eye residue. I justimagine eye is salty. I haven't tasted.I must be salty. You know, I will say
02:01:47one time, um,Tearducks.I can't remember the name of the restaurant,but there was a place in Long Island City where you could goas a Quebec Coy restaurant,you could get half of a pig's head.Okay.And I got it one time.
02:01:59That's just like a person.M. Wells.Emwell's Steakhouse in Long Island City.I don't think it's open anymore.Oh, I wonder why.Because it served delicious food.I don't know.I went to town on this pig's head,
02:02:10and I was in it.Did you eat the eye?I ate it.Okay.What?So salt?Salty?No.
02:02:14No.Sour?Sour?Sour?Not much on the sour.It was pretty salty, and it just tasted like the rest of the meat.Maybe for it's rancid, though.Do they give you a crown of bones when you order this thing?
02:02:25This is the most decadent nightmare monster.Christ on his throne.Kevin had it, too.It's delicious.And the pig's teeth are sour.What?You're not eating the teeth.You're not eating the teeth.
02:02:34You're eating ears.You're eating snout.You're eating jowls.You're eating brain, and you're eating eyeball.Can I ask, do they sell the eye as, like, a feature?Or are they like, most people don't eat the eye.They don't tell you about it.But it's like, the option is there.
02:02:50Like, you can do it.You do you.It's like anything here.You can do it.Yeah.And I did it.It was my birthday.They don't tell you about it, but that eye is there.
02:02:58I'm going to eat it.Yeah.And it was good, man.I wasn't crazy about the brain.Okay.Yeah.Yeah.It was kind of bumming about that.
02:03:04What was that sour?It was a little too like mushy.Like, I did it.The texture.Yeah.The brain is actually the, the joker of Oregon.Hey, hey.Hey.
02:03:15Yeah.How dare you.It's twisted and deranged.So yeah, they're making outAnd she fucking pulls outShe pulls a knife off the kitchen tableI love that he's waiting for his wifeTo come back as a zombie sitting on the kitchen floor
02:03:28Up against the fridge playing solitaireYou gotta pass the titleI'm surprised he didn't take a good old napThis guy loves to go to sleep afterYeah, he just had that whole adventureBurned that house downHe walked all the way back to that fucking pet cemeteryAnd back to the house
02:03:41But also like twice this guyHas tried to revive people to bad resultsHe knows it takes a little time for themto like cook until they're ready to popback up again. I don't believehe's this chill the third time.Yeah. Yeah, you're right.Totally gonna work. One thing we missed,
02:03:58which is the John Carpenter head,the second time he goes back to the bed cemetery,which is like the 14th thing this moviedoesn't need. Oh, the thing thatlike the head comes out of the rock.It's, like, he likeblinks, he goes, well, that was odd and nothingever happens with it. I think that was supposed
02:04:14to be the beast or something, whatever.Yeah, they just forgot to cut it out.King's main is essentially the BermudaTriangle.I really don't.There's all sorts of mom stars in those woods.Oh, yeah, I buried Amelia Earhartback on the Pet Cemetery.
02:04:30And then it's man credits Ramon's song,which is awesome.Yeah, the song in the end credits.Amazing.The video is hysterical.This director was mostly music video directordid all like the early Madonna videosand she was apparently like
02:04:42Best Buds with the Ramones.Yeah, yeah.And the studio was like,you can't do that.and she like went above themand got Ramones to write the songand then delivered itwhich is so great
02:04:52because apparently Stephen King's a big Ramon's fanI think Stephen King won the argumentI think the studio didn't want the Ramoneson the soundtrackRightThat's the other crazy thing I read about this filmWas that it was supposed to be George RomeroOh right yeah
02:05:04He backed downThat king like pointedly likeGave the rights to RomeroBecause he thought he could do justiceYeahWrote it for RomeroAnd then Romero did monkey shinesIt's great
02:05:15Right, and then they were still hot on the thing, so they made it anyway.But this is when he was still a little protective over his rights.Yeah, that didn't last much longer.And this was like sort of a thing where it was the writer's strike was happening,and they didn't know when they were going to make this movie, et cetera.And like this was the only reason they made this movie is because the script was in such good shape,they wouldn't have to get a whatever, a rewriter on that.Air quotes for the listeners.
02:05:40Yeah, yeah, sorry about that.Good shape.Yeah, it's such a good shape.would people recommend this movieI'll startI thought that's where you're goingDid you have something else?You know, I like this movie
02:05:51I think this movie is efficiently scary enoughIt's bad shit crazyI think it's well directedIt looks niceIt's got a niceYou feel the 1989Which I likeThis is the first scary movie I ever saw
02:06:04At 17 because I was a cowardAnd I steered clear of itAnd I was at like a partyWe were about to go to a partyI was visiting a friend's collegeand everybody putall the big boys put this onI was like oh no it's a scary movie
02:06:18and I got really freaked outbut I sat through it and I watched itand it stuck with me as like a super scary movieI was less scared last night but the tendonsstill gets me I like it a lotyeahit's you knowit's a very light recommend
02:06:33I think it takes it takes way too longto get going okay and that'ssomething like the first three minutes I was like Idon't need any of like him getting tono Fred Gwynn, all that stuff.I'm like, okay.I mean, but once the funeral hits, I think, is when suddenly jumps to life.Yeah.
02:06:50And then, so for that, and after that, I guess I have to, yeah, light recommend.Yeah, I would recommend this movie.I think after watching this, and we did the episode on Two, also directed by MaryLambert, I think Two's kind of better because there's just, it's a little sillier.It's a little less self-serious.Yeah.But it's still fucking weird and creepy.But I've always kind of liked this movie, and this was like the,
02:07:12fourth or fifth time I've seen it and yeah those that little critter cutting his tendon man look outit's creepy as fuck I would say it's a light recommend for me too but like there's so much in thisfucking thing that you do not need that goddamn sister being chained to a bed yeah and other sceneslike if this movie was 85 minutes it'd be amazing it doesn't need to be an hour in 43 minutes that's areal problem I mean I give this a soft recommend but with the caveat that I'm hopingthat the remakeimproves upon itbecause I think we all agree
02:07:48there's a lot of likesort of fatthere are a lot of weirdlike sort of tendrilsoff the side of this filmthat take away from itthe new one has a really good castI just feel like
02:08:01this is exactly the kind of movieyou want to remakewhen it's likeit's got a little brand valueyou have source materialbut they didn't likefully knock it out of the parkIt sticks in people's minds
02:08:13because there are enough elementsThere are enough well executed thingsBut this is certainly something you canImprove uponYeah, absolutelyRather than like total recall or RobocopWhere it's like, rightDon't play with that
02:08:24Who is the wife in the new movieAmy SimonsOh yes, she's greatThat's a great castIt's a really great castClark is fantasticAnd I do love LithgowYeah and you're like
02:08:34Who could replace like Fred Gwynnett's likeThat's the one modern choiceSee that head?HugeLike a Christmas ham!And I think after it, like...The soup is bad.Right.
02:08:45Progressos soup!The only one that remembers that Edgater.Yeah, no one knows what you're saying.Everybody knows.The floodgates are open after it was such a successful remake.And I think we're going to see like almost every king property.Dude, I want to do needful things.I'd be into it.
02:09:00Yeah, that'd be great.Just you're clear of the shining.And then we're fine.We already did that twice.Yeah, we did it enough.I think they're doing a doctor's sleep movie.They are.You and McGregor.
02:09:08That's right.Yeah.Yeah.So that's, I never read that book.But there's weird.like vampires in it or something.Yeah. All right. I guess we'll seeabout that when the time comes. But until
02:09:17then, that was Pet Cemetery, directed byMary Lambert from 1989.If you want more We Hate Movies, check out. Patreon.comslash we hate movies. And Griffin,go ahead and plug awayeverything you got going on. Blank Check,the tick. Yeah, blank checkwith Griffin, David, available wherever
02:09:33podcasts are found. We havea second feed on Patreon now.Patreon, a company that none of us are worriedabout. Not at all. We're all cool withAll super cool.It's just fine.Future looks incredibly bright.But we do commentaries on franchises on that feed and on the main feed.
02:09:51It's directors, filmographies.We pick directors and go through all their movies.One at a time.Two of you guys on and we'll have the other two soon.As soon as we finish recording, I will pass your guys about that.Tick, April 5th, all 10 episodes,because last time they did a weird thing where they split them up.Oh, not the case this time.
02:10:10Nice.Just dump it.episodes on one day. Pleasedigest a thing that tookmonths and months of my lifein like one afternoonover a bag of chips.There will be a lobster.
02:10:22There will be a lobster. I'll say this.Tiptoeing the spoilterracly. Several lobster.Now we're talking. Is thisexclusive? This is exclusive. This is exclusive.Several lobsters. I'm getting hungry asfuck. Several lobsters. Speaking ofMaine.
02:10:40Yeah. That's it.for the program. Thank you so much for dropping by.This is a lot of fun. Thank you for having me on.Way overdue.And we'll do it again. Maybe weget Simsian too. No doubthe would love to do it. Awesome.Well, that was a pause that I was like,
02:10:52no way.Don't you fucking dare.And next week, next week on theprogram, Steve Sadek, what are we talking about?This show, it continues every Tuesday new episodesas you flip through a GoogleDrive doc. What are you talking about?Dude, you are the joker of a spread show.
02:11:09God fucking damn it, we are doing...It's like he finds Excel funny.We are doing Shrek 2.Oh, wow.The second Shrekking.Yes, the Shreckoning.The sequel to our incredibly popular Shrek episode.Sometimes Dead is better.
02:11:25Did people get angry when you talk Shrek because they're like protective?A little bit.Now, do we think people will be as defensive toward Shrek 2?Yeah, giant gingerbread man, dude. No way.They can't.That's also one of those things where when that came out, that was the,third highest grossing movie inhistory. Yeah, which is insane.
02:11:43This society is so doomed. Yeah, lifesucks. You can talk about Avengers Endgameall you like. Shrek 2, no thank you.Trek 2 was just this momentwhere apparently everyonealive wanted to go backto the swamp.I remember sitting in the theater for
02:11:59Shrek 1 stewing.I was not having it.We saw the second one together.We did. At the theater.Miserable existence. I'll see it this Sunday night.You dodged it?You were the one and done in the church.You were the one.
02:12:13Yeah, it was the one.You were the one who stopped them from beating Titanic.I think I dodged it too.I quit after two.I've never seen whatever the five.Three, four, five, six, seven, eight.Halloween specials, one through nine.Right, didn't they do like Christmas shit too?
02:12:27They do a lot of Christmas shit.Oh, good God.See, I'll say this.Like, I'm younger.One and two, I was like seeing in theaters, like, jamming on.Way to brag on the show.Yeah.Well, no, because it also was the thing that was like,
02:12:39These are fucking cartoons, but they're like edgier.So you can be a teenager and still see that.Shrek fucks.Right.That was the argument.He fucks, he farts.I mean, it's all there.I love animation.
02:12:50I was so into the fact that everyone else wanted to see a cartoon movie with meand I didn't have to pretend that my sister wanted to see it.But I look back at like one and two now, I'm like, these are nightmare movies.They're like staring into the eye of Sauron.And then by the time like three came out, I was like, I don't want to see this.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Oh, man.Well, until next week when we stare into the eye of Sauron.
02:13:13I'm Andrew Jupin.You even say it, at Chris Gavin.Eric Siska.Griffin Newman.Take it easy.That was a head gum podcast.Thank you.
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