We Hate Movies - S9: WHM On-Screen: Captain Marvel

Episode Date: March 13, 2019

On a very special WHM On-Screen, the guys chat about the new superhero cinematic sensation, Captain Marvel! What the hell is a Kree again? Look at all the creative ways kitty litter can be used! And taking a moment to remember the one and only jay-smoking genius, Stan Lee! Captain Marvel stars Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, Jude Law, Ben Mendelsohn, Annette Bening, Clark Gregg, and Lee Pace; directed by Anna Boden & Ryan Fleck. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Thank you. Hello and welcome to We Hate Movies on screen for Captain Marvel. This is a very special episode, special because this is the first and likely only time Andrew Jupin will not be on this program. So I am your host, Steven Sadek. I am joined only by Chris Cabin and only by Eric Siska. Yeah, that's right, because this is Eric Siska talking, just letting everyone know that Andrew was protesting the film.

Yes. He was outside my house earlier today with a picket sign. You're going to see that stupid lady movie. No, no, no, of course. Andrew is away on business, so we are filling in. Yeah, because that's what we got so many little tweets about like, oh my God, when are you guys going to do Captain Marvel? You got to do Captain Marvel.

So we're doing Captain Marvel. We want to wait. You know, this is, we want to be on the cutting edge here, I think. This is going to be the cutting edge, you think? I think this might actually be the cutting edge. and during the last episode of the show, period. I think we might not... I want to let people know up front

because I think we ran into some of this with our last Jedi episode. These on-screen episodes are kind of like not a perfect introduction to what our show is necessarily. We're just talking about usually a movie that we kind of like. So if you're looking like,

we hate movies, Captain Marvel, and you're coming in there with some aggressive energy just so you know that's not what this is. And if you want us to really shit on a movie, check out a numbered episode, like episode 400 on the Love Guru, for instance. Well, I will say that I listen to all of my podcasts very aggressively. I'm an aggressive listener.

As everybody knows, I've been very open about this. Yeah, Chris just sits in a room listening to podcasts, like, get to it! And you don't know what he's trying to get to, but he wants somebody to get to something. I do it the most during meditation apps. In any event, Captain Marvel came out this week. weekend, this last weekend, it's destroying the box office as all these Marvel movies do. What did we think generally of the film Captain Marvel starring Brie Larson? I guess I'll go first. I think it's fine. I think it's, I think Brie Larson is incredible.

I think it's not much of a movie if you take her out of it. But yeah, I mean, this is perfectly fine mid-range Marvel to me. there, Chris, because you take Brie Larson out of this and we got Ben Mendelssohn's wild ride across the galaxy. Yeah. That's still good. Yeah, that's still good. I don't know if it's a movie, but... Yeah, I mean, I think that... I think I liked it more than you, but I don't think it's the best Marvel movie ever or

anything like that. I think it's, you know, that... And it's almost unfair because Black Panther just totally owns that spot and will forever now. So it's kind of hard in a post-Black Panther world to be like, oh, it was just a super fun competent light superhero movie that's all these movies should be I think exactly I mean that's

that's exactly I know it's like that's what they're going for and they got there and I did like the movie I didn't I don't think it's the best either but again like you said

like after Black Panther and so on and so forth and there's 23 of these and I'm not a huge is there 23 now is that right you think of 23 and me sounds about right

It turns out on part scrawl Oh man I wish it was part scroll I would really like it If it just you're going to need a 23 and me Eventually to figure out the funding That goes into these movies It's all across

Yeah you're right It's all across like It knows no boundaries Right It goes to different National borders Yeah I think I think this movie is super fun

I think Brie Larson is tremendous in it And she gets both sides, all sides of the character. Like, you know, she could be funny. She could be emotionally moved. She could be tough. Like, and she does all that really effortlessly. And she's the first best actress or even best actor to be the lead of one of these movies, right?

Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, I think that's probably right. And I think that that kind of shows. I mean, not that those awards me and everything, but, like, I think that she's got gravitas and really owns it. And I think I also loved Nick Fury. I thought he was all. I thought giving Sam Jackson some meat on a bone for one of these movies was a really good choice. Yeah, I agree with that. I really liked their dynamic and then going into the 1990s and having all that, you know, the comedy misadventures of just having nostalgia around. I enjoyed like an idiot. I just ate it up because I remember seeing Sam Jackson movies in the 90s.

Yeah. It was a lot of fun. But I also enjoyed how we go into. like it's not like the suit it's not i mean the stakes are super but like we get instead of humongous set pieces where two cghi gleep-glops fight each other we got stuff where it's like sam jackson breaking out of a underground uh you know military facility and it kind of felt a little x-filesy to me and i thought it was really cool well i'll I'll say I think the 90s setting gives it kind of a, it's a two double-edged sword in a way, because I think it, the charm of the movie is that it does feel like kind of a Shane Black-esque to, you know, two opposites working together to get a case done.

But like, I felt like a lot of the musical cues kind of didn't fit weirdly. Oh, really? I kind of disagree with you. I love. And I thought the music was really good. I want to make that clear. I just kind of felt like some of them, they were like, eh, it's quiet here.

We should just put a music here. You know, I kind of, I mean, like, the weird thing about the 90s stuff and why this, I mean, like, I do think that the acting is really good. I think the direction's probably not the best. I wouldn't be terribly upset if they got a different team or a different director for the next movie. But in terms of the music, it's hard for me because, like Eric,

I was such a rube for all that stuff. And maybe that's just me being like, oh, I love the 90s. But every time it happened, I did, I despite myself, was like, I love, I do love the 90s here. And similarly with that cat, that cat looks a lot like my cat. So every time that cat's on screen, I'm like, oh, my God, it's my cat. So it's kind of, but I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I thought the, what musical cues specifically do you think didn't work? I mean, I was talking to my wife about this.

like the um i'm just a girl at the end like it's good and it's a good cue however like there's no effort to like match the what's going on on screen with the turns of the song maybe baby driver just ruined me for all this but yeah uh i felt something similar uh with the come as you are cue when they're in the little uh nether space i like i like both of those i actually not the

come as you are was probably like i'm just a girl is obviously like that song you needed to have in this movie not not cynically like it's just it is it's exactly what the movie is and i thought sort of come as you are was also that like in terms of i i do agree there's not a lot of matching like we're hitting the beat like when when the song kicks in we're kicking somebody in the face or something but like i think just like the lyrics and the mood of both of those songs and both those moments kind of worked for me yeah i thought the come as you are went pretty well with the scene, but I will say about the music, one thing that's unforgivable

about it. So she's wearing a nine-inch nails shirt, and we don't get any nine-inch nails in the movie? I was kind of shocked by that. I bet your Resner refused. Yeah, that sounds right. But then, I mean, then we're just

buying his T-shirt? Does Resner have to sign off on T-shirts or no? He's selling the T-shirts. Have you gone to his Etsy shop yet? So they were like, all right, Trent, we want to give you, you know, $600,000 to play a nine-inch nail song, which I can't think of because I'm an idiot. And he's like, no, but you could buy a t-shirt at full price. And like, all right, so $30 for a t-shirt. I mean, if we're going to be true to the whole, like, 90s, what was the biggest nine-inch nail song was closer?

And that would really not fit the film. Yeah, I think that's also probably part of it, right? Like, you know, who wants to fuck anybody like an animal? Yeah, I mean, they could have, you know, they could, I mean, they could, I guess they could have forced one in, like, reptile or a racer or something. But anyway, I guess it just didn't work out. I think it should have opened with Mr. Self-Destruct. That would have been amazing. I mean, you could use what the Supreme Intelligence bow down before the one you serve.

That kind of works, sort of, right? Yeah, not bad. I've actually liked, in terms of like the sort of sexuality, I like, I like. that there's no male romantic lead in this. It's just sort of her figuring her shit out. And, like, you know, Jude Law is obviously that, but he's also, it's not really romantic. It's just like your boss that you really like,

that you wind up not liking. Right. It's like the cute guy at the office. That turns out to be a piece of shit because he still works at the office. So, I mean, I thought Jude Law was really good in this movie, and it was nice to see him, I guess, in the MCU. I'm watching this movie, and I had no idea what the Cree were until Ronan the accuser shows up in the movie.

And I'm like, wait, what? This is the same alien species as the gardens of the galaxy? They could have done a better job of laying that groundwork a little bit. The beginning of this movie is really kind of staccato and weird. And I think it's kind of, that's part of what they're doing. It's like, she's thrust into the action. You don't really know where she's coming from who she is. is and that she doesn't know that either so you're kind of mirroring that but it is sort of like

who are the kree etc like yeah i mean i i knew the kre because i'm a resident comic book expert etc but like i was when ronan showed up i was like oh yeah that's right ron was kre we've seen the kre before as opposed to like they're a brand new thing uh did he say did ronan uh say anything about being kree in the guardians movies because then i would just be like if I had remembered that and I don't remember this shit but if I had remembered that I'd be like oh well then okay they're just all evil yeah

I'm like the one person that I actually really liked Roden the accuser in Guardians so after we saw Captain Marvel I went home and I rewatched Guardians one and it's good but I don't

under you know you don't really have any sense of the Cree in that movie either besides they have this, like, they think they're superior and they kind of want to take over other planets. Am I wrong, though, in that? And it's been like a year or two since I've seen Guardians One right before I watch Guardians to, which I do think is better. But is it, isn't there like an Israel-Palestine-esque kind of thing with decree in that

movie where we're kind of, they're imperialistic and like they're, and I think that they kind of carry that over here, right? Am I nuts? Yeah, they're kind of constant combat with Xander. Is it not Zander? like it's a person. Zander Berkeley? Some planet named like Xander or whatever.

Zandar, thank you. But like it's like this war with their neighbor, so it sounds kind of like the Israel-Palestine you were thinking of. But all the authority figures of Kree in Guardians 1 are blue guys. I think there is still, he was in Captain Marvel as well. well with Jude Law Dominic Hansu? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jamon Hansu, yes. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, as Korath. So he's in Guardians 1 and he's also in this because he was working with Ronan in Guardians 1 and, but still you never see anything of the Kree

besides Hansu and Ronan. And like one other blue guy on the TV. Now in the I almost have a hard time believing that Ronan, someone like that, like this fanatical guy would take orders from a computer

god and does everyone who's Cree, I guess, talk to the computer guy? That I don't know. I'm not so much in the Marvel what you called out there, the cosmic universe stuff, but like I mean the guy, it is kind of, wasn't he in that first one and that first guardians kind of going

against the grain like kind of being a bit of a you know a rogue agent or no is he acting well kind of a little bit it sounded like the like the government kind of was still hated zander berkeley and and was kind of almost okay with what he was doing but not i don't think they were actually signing off on it probably hated him because they he kept always saying come on shut up you stupid piece of shit over and over again. That is a whole planet drink milk from the cart. Just doesn't make sense.

Yeah, I don't know. I liked, but I agree with you. So the beginning of this movie is very much like, who are the cre? What's going on? And then like, yeah, when Ronan shows up, it's kind of bizarre. But I do, it's weird the flak this movie is getting for the military stuff. I find kind of odd and like we're kind of picket and choosing our battles in weird ways there.

I mean, I think it is for the most part. The only thing I think is that when she does take it from the girl's shirt, specifically, I'm like, that is almost man-of-steel level bad. Yeah, but I mean, all these movies do that, though, one way or another, like the Iron Man movies have that, the Avengers movie have that. I don't know if there, but I'm sorry, but I really don't know if there is another movie that looks directly at the military and says, yes, that's what I am.

Captain America? Does he do that? I mean, that's the first movie, right? I mean, he's like, it becomes their identity. And it's also as, I guess, Breed Larson's character, Carol Danvers, is that right? Yeah. She was like a pilot and I guess her identity is wrapped up with the U.S. military.

So when she's getting it back, I guess that's an easy touchstone. Which is, I mean, is straight from the comics as well. It's not something in this movie kind of invented. She is an Air Force pilot, et cetera. And like, and I mean, look, again, like, I'm not saying one way or another. I just sort of, I didn't really, first of all, I'd miss that scene because Alamo Draft House has fucking terrible bathrooms. And I don't know why they have like three fucking toilets for eight theaters.

It's nuts. We lost? Because they're a bad show. Oh, no, because I just was online for like, I was like, I'm going to run to take a piss, and some other movie got out, and I wound up being online for like six minutes, and I missed that chunk. Oh, that's terrible. It was terrible, Eric. Thank you. It was really bad.

No, but seriously, that does suck. But I think the thing is with all these movies, and it's not just comic book movies, but like macho movies, like action movies or whatever. Like, everything is derived basically from the military or some type of. fascist line of thought where you smash things and you have a glistening bond yeah i i agree with that i think so i think it's kind of weird that it's this movie's getting so much flag for it i do get it i do understand it like if you're like you know fuck the military or all or fuck militaristic propaganda good on you but then you shouldn't watch any of these movies well i mean you have to get that it's like the anti-sjw argument i guess yeah that's true and they just take it up as that but like i mean yeah it is a

minor quibble i always it just got irked by it i was like you could have done that a little more subtly you didn't have to directly do that but um i mean what i really like about this movie is the cast i think like it does so well uh bringing these people together and having fun with them like and actually i'll say for the first time ever uh the de ageifying did not bother me yeah i agree with that i was i kind of just forgot about it i mean like i knew that it wasn't Sam Jackson in 1995, because like Eric said, I've seen Sam Jackson in 1995. But at the same time, I just sort of like, it didn't look weird. They did less of it where it, like, looked okay.

Well, because they got him at like, I think he said that he thinks that it was the negotiator that they used. Oh, that makes sense. And that makes total sense, but I would have loved it if they like, he used like Goodfellas era. I don't think his body's ever, yeah, I don't think his body's getting back to Goodfellas era. And, you know, it's also Sam Jackson's also like, what, like 70 years old now, but he still looks really good, you know? He doesn't look like, you know, a feebile old man the way like De Niro does and who the hell knows what the Irish man de aging will be like. But, I mean, I think it's just going to work better on Sam Jackson than most other iconic actors. Well, it would be funny if, since they're using the negotiator in one scene, they accidentally grabbed.

Paul Giamatti's face on Brutlarsen. And you just get her handcuffed to a desk. I don't know how you're going to get out of this one. Wasn't Kevin Spacey in that movie? He is. Yeah. They're going to put a graph on that face, then. Re-release that.

Yeah, we de-agedified Kevin for the 4K release of the negotiator. It's, well, honestly. It's just Chris Hemsworth. We just made the movie guy with Chris Hemsworth. We had to get him. Or you just, like, blur his face for going forward. It's just like, you just don't have the rights to his face anymore, so you just blur it. Give a, give him the blank mask from Dick Tracey.

Yes. And he talks like the blank, too. Oh, you know, they should do that for the seven, because it would be even more chilling. Oh, yeah. What do we think of Ben Mendelsohn? I mean, I have an idea of what we think of a Ben, but... Oh, love him. Love him.

I mean, it's hard not to. It's weird because, like, I'm always used to him doing, like, the same role in every movie. But this was a little different. I actually, I did, too. I actually think that they're smart in casting him for this because you think he's just going to be exactly the same imperious bad guy. But he's, you know, got a heart of gold and he's got his family and the whole thing. And we're doing that thing instead, which I like that twist. And I really like the kind of not so subtle, like, you.

you know, the Cree, call these people terrorists, but actually, you know, they have their own stuff going on and they, you know, they just want to survive kind of a thing. I mean, they do a good job of, like, giving you a little bit of what you expect with Mendelssohn because of him as a human in the government. Yes. Like when they look at the scroll dick,

like stuff like that, like you get a little taste of what you were expecting and then to have it come back as the main this uh i forget his specific name it's just the main scroll i think it's talos talos um like yeah it i always like ben mendelson when he's warmer and like weirdly like empathetic like he had a really good uh role uh in girls as um as a father of i think uh i forget which character um but he it was a similar thing where you could see both sides of it. And I think that really gives him a lot to work with. I buy that. Did it, did anyone see Mississippi Grind? I did not. How is that? He is incredible. And that, that is another thing that it was also Fleck and Bowden who did that. Right. Same

directors as this film. Yes. And like, you could tell that he has a relationship with them because he does really have that same charisma. In Mississippi Grind, he like outshines Ryan Reynolds, who is just a charm machine. Yeah, I buy that. So I think they knew what to give him in this. So back to the Skull Dick, which we have to go back to. Oh, please, yes. I like that there's an alien autopsy in this movie, another little 90s thing. Absolutely. And he also, so they both look at the scroll dick. And like, you know, Sam Jackson is like doing it because he's genuinely curious. And I think that Ben Mendelsohn's trying to pretend to be genuinely curious that he does that weird little moment of like, I'm so sorry, my brother. I'll see you on the other side.

in the infinite or whatever. I want him to add also like, sorry for looking at your dick, dude. My, you know, I'm just trying to blend in here, you know, it was part of the role. Absolutely. I kind of wanted him to like, like, be disgusted, like the minute Sam Jackson,

but he just vomits everywhere. And he's like, how could they do that to you? My brother! How could they do that? Enough with this ruse. I'm taking your body out of here. it's not worth it anymore not even saving the universe is worth it

that would be beautiful that would be a beautiful film and the rest of it's just him trying to find the right place to bury him it's like Gary yeah and then the scrolls have to like find another planet like we definitely can't settle on Earth

or Taryn or C-54 or whatever this place is called because they're fucking dick hungry here they're cutting dicks open and they're looking at them he looked directly at his skrick and laughed Skrick Oh yeah touch my skrick

Oh yeah we go Yeah I mean so I really I think the action isn't great in this movie That's a slight to it I think But I do love Like we've kind of said a couple times Is like the big ending set piece Is her versus law

And he tries to do that thing where he's like, you know, you don't have to use your stupid superpowers. Fight me like, you know, without them. If not, you're, you know, you're worthless or whatever. And she just says, fuck you, I don't know you anything. And it's a really kind of, it's a really pointed and poignant kind of ending for this movie specifically, I think. Yeah, I think it was great to shove his bullshit back in his face.

But she does fly, she basically towards the end of the film gains, like, I guess it's equivalent to like Superman type of power? Yeah, I think so. Okay, yeah, I didn't know if you knew the character. Oh, no, but like in terms of strength. Yeah, like, I think all she could do in the beginning of the film is just use her hand blast, but she's got this inhibitor thing on her. Once that goes, she can like, if she has like super strength, she has like super, yeah,

she can do everything almost. It's like Superman light. She takes down like that one of those Cree warships and Ronan has to run with his tail between his legs. I kind of wish there was a bigger confrontation there. It didn't have to be like a 20-minute fight sequence or anything like that, but I don't know, dialogue, something. But by and large, I know, I understand the, um, the criticism with the action in this movie, but I kind of don't care almost because like I've seen so many of these movies and every single one of them usually ends in more or less the same fashion where, you know,

You got the big green one is fighting the big orange one or whatever. You know, it kind of becomes a blur for me, but, but I totally buy that because, yeah, it's not, it's not like, oh, and then we have to, we have to shut down the power converter before the world has ended. And we have to run around and do that for an hour and a half while we smash our action figures together, which I, I would rather just have the fight on the subway. Yes. Like, it's really restrained.

And like, by the time we get towards the end conflict, I guess, you know, she's got the superpowers. that is so powerful that why even bother having that huge orchestrated fight? Yeah, totally. Well, I guess that's kind of where my issues come in, is that it's the same, I guess it's the same thing for all these movies, is that you're right, and that, like,

I'm much more interested in her relationship with her old pilot that she worked with. Yes. Maria Rambo is a character. Yeah, yeah, Rambo. With her and with Jackson. And, like, if you would just

literally taken out most of the action other than stuff like the subway ride i'd be much happier but it kind of has to play the game yeah yeah like all these movies it has to like be half a movie i do not care about at all uh and half a movie that i really like well at least it didn't play the game so much where it's like and now we have to go to korea for a little while which most of these movies do now because that's where the money comes from uh what do we think of the Stan Lee cameo by the way I liked it a lot which is I didn't expect it and

just him reading the script of Mallrats I thought it was just such a 90s touch that it was just it's so ridiculous that they went for it so I got to enjoy it also it sort of destroys the entire universe that they're talking about

at the same time for a two second joke but sure like as a Stan Lee is in the movie Mallrats he's Stan Lee and he's created a lot of Marvel characters, such as Captain America, who she's going to meet later. You know what I mean? So I was like, what? So I was talking to this loser named Kevin Smith, and he said, read my script for Morats,

and then I met Captain Marvel. I was riding the bus. I do love that he's on the train. That's right. He's on public transportation. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Jack Kirby riding the train.

God, haven't done this in 40 years. This is what he had to do every day. I'm horrible. I mean, maybe this, you know, all the movies just take place in his imagination, and he's just like, I'm reading this script, but wouldn't it be nifty if Captain Marvel was riding the train with me? And then the whole movie exists just around that thought of his. That makes sense.

Yeah, so it's like, you remember, I remember World War II. Wouldn't it be interesting if there's a scrappy kid named Steve? Oh, wow, now we're watching a movie. Exactly. it's just happening in front of him when he thinks it's like he's a god I'm going to a urologist down in down in Manhattan wouldn't it be weird if a portal opened and space dragons came out what if the Avengers were here

now they're watching that movie while I'm getting my dick played with wouldn't it be weird if we looked at a scrunt you know that's a scroll's penis while I'm playing with my dick I'm thinking about scroll dick a lot of ridges on that guy for sure Oh, yeah. It looks like Harry Potter's wand. Yeah, I mean, I think that I'm kind of, I wasn't crazy about,

I don't know why these ending sequences have to be directed in half a day. And like they always feel like video game cut sequences. I don't know why they have to be so bad. Although I love the cat one. The cat one's fantastic. You guys stay for both stingers? Yes, yeah. There was the cat one where the cat, I guess the flurkin, actually, alien species or whatever.

Vomits up the Tessarac. And then I had to go home and like, okay, what was that again? Oh, okay, it's got the space infinity stone. And here's the timeline, and I read the timeline. Yeah, it's the McGuffin of the first Avengers movie. Right, yeah. And also the first Captain America movie, and then I guess it goes back to Asgard at some point um and what was the other one again that was literally uh stinger scene that was just

like ending infinity war yeah like they're they're using the beeper to call her and then she's like i am here now it's like woo and it's like i don't know it's i mean like i i would have got there anyway but i was just sort of like they're always so stiff and weird those those stingers with a lot of characters in them yeah i i agree with that i don't i don't like them because everything has to be set up for another thing and I understand that and I understand that now but I guess she's going to be able

to take on Thanos more than other people because she's got better superpowers She's the most powerful character they have because her power Sorry I'm just saying it's kind of interesting She's the most powerful character

that they have now for sure Well yeah and they did They went to the trouble of not defining her powers at all Other than fist blast And flying So she really could do anything eventually I think Well isn't it like pure energy or something like her

like she's like combined with this energy force and yes it makes you be able to kind of do anything you can kind of use that energy to fly or shoot guys or and be super sure and use the energy to course to make you stronger than you would be etc which I think all works I mean I don't think

I don't think we even need that much more of an explanation because like again like Superman is like yeah he's just you know he's an alien and then the uh the specific son of one planet makes him, like, go fucking bonkers and he can shoot all this shit out of his dies.

It's like, what's the difference? You know what I mean? Like, okay, you know, someone's combined with super energy, okay. I'm 100% on that, but what I know is going to happen is somewhere in end game, there's going to be something she can't do

or can't, like, like, there's going to be some weakness that has suddenly sprung on us that doesn't mean that you could just obliterate Thanos. They call that conflict in screenwriting. I call it bullshit But she'll have her super friends to help Chris

Yeah I guess But you know speaking of Ill-defined powers What is with this There's one Mary Sue character Of the MCU And that's Thanos Okay

Like I didn't see him train Yeah As a young man I didn't see him learn anything That's true I mean all of a sudden He's big and purple How do you get so purple?

That's my question Yeah How did he get so purple? Exactly did he fucking like twist his balls under his scrunt that it just turned to it turned them super purple and then then eventually spread to the rest of the body? He's a total Jack Bill or whatever you call a Mary Sue, a male Mary Sue. I think I think they call it a Gary Stu because it's very creative. That's creative term.

And the fan fiction community, they're a creative industry there. I was thinking, so are we excited for. the game now that Captain Marvel's going to be in it? I mean, I'm just sort of kind of curious to see how that's going to all wrap up for sure. I'm not really excited for that game. I keep forgetting it's coming out honestly. Because it doesn't matter.

I mean, you know, they acted like it was such a big deal and it's not because it's just, they keep approving all these movies to be made after it. It's like, okay, so Spider-Man's alive, obviously. Yeah, just get ready for a deluge of excuses why it's okay now. Yes. Yeah, I mean, if you guys

think if people listening and you know sometimes new listeners come across this like i've said um listen to her on screen on infinity war where uh chris and i disliked it and andrew and steve liked it so it's we we definitely we're definitely not huge mc u backers in in general but i just can't get excited for it because i you showed me half a movie last time yeah i kind of agree i mean i'm i'm excited to see what they do with it i'm excited to see also now that there's this character that i really like that i've only seen once i get to see again uh i'm into that because i really like captain marvel but i also i don't know i'm just sort of curious how what the ramifications are going to be like how they're going to write out downy and evans and all these guys like who's going to die or who's

going to retire or are we going to reset the universe in some weird way you know what i mean like i'm i'm curious about all that stuff all these kind of hanging chads we have i can answer answer some of these for you. They're definitely not resetting the universe. Well, no, maybe they will. You know, maybe like to do so, there's like a soft reset of the universe possibly. It's going to be

like, like Tony Stark's like like, okay, Dr. Strange, let's turn back time. But unfortunately that means that my body's going to have to explode for that. Exactly. And I'll be a sexy young actor on a cheaper contract. Right? They'll use like his

heart engine and it'll explode. and he'll be a corpse and hey, good thing we got all these other new heroes to be in the Avengers, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, I said, I mean, I made a joke about this, but like, is far from home going to end like Jacob's Ladder?

It's the only thing that makes sense to me at this point. We're going to find out. So, like, I have to go see the movie, the stupid end game movie, to make sense of whatever else. is going to come after. And it's going to be tough. That's true. I'm so like, I'm into it.

I'm definitely, like I said, I want to see this movie, but we're actually doing this four-day East Coast tour the week that movie comes out. So I don't even know if I'm going to have energy for that. Those tickets, by the way, are on WHMpodcast.com on the tour tab. We're going to be in Boston, Philadelphia, D.C., and New York, April 22nd to 25th, just an FYI, if you're listening. Yeah, I'm going to be there. I know you're going to be at all those shows.

Are you going to have the energy to sit through a two-and-a-half-hour Thanos movie at the end of the week? I don't know, maybe on Sunday, right? The Lord's Day. We'll see. Yeah, exactly. So any kind of final shots on Captain Marvel, Brie Larson, the whole bit? I mean, I think this is a good introduction to her as a character. And like you, I am very interested to see how Marvel comes in on endgame and how big a role she will play in it.

I'm hoping it's big because I really love watching her do what she does. I think what I love most about this movie is how natural she felt in the role and how easily she found the heart of the character. Whereas other times I'm like, oh, this is just a hero person. Like this felt like a person. Yeah, she's just sort of effortlessly charming in this movie. Like the whole bar scene with her and Sam Jackson getting together. it's just she's likable and she's but she's tough and she's it was just a really like

I could just watch this woman do this role for another three hours which I probably will in literally 40 days oh for sure oh you know with the end game they can really get me back if they start putting that cat goose and all the previews like let me know he's going to be there I'm with you and or maybe set maybe set some of the end game in a blockbuster honestly let's go back to that blockbuster maybe thanos is hiding one of those infinity stones in one of the old tapes right yeah like definitely like something something behind the saloon doors i'll tell you my my dream ending of end game is to have goose eat than oh my god yes that would be yes right wouldn't that be the best that would be perfect i'm i'm really pro goose like i said uh he looks a lot like my cat and i'm very into that idea and the belly of the cat can hold hold, you know, the Tessarac, which is an infinity stone, right? So, like, he could eat the whole gauntlet and he can just be safe keeping. And then the stinger scene, so he eats him at the end of end game.

And then the stinger scene is him taking a big Thanos-style shit in a cat box. And he's just like, he has to cover him and all that stuff. And it's really gross. It's a big old Thanos skull. And he's like kicking kitty litter in the eye sockets. Look, we can't find a kitty litter thing. big enough to fucking house it. What are we going to do?

Take him to the Mojave Desert. Oh, that's amazing, right? Like, the cat, then, like, the whole desert is his toilet. Yeah. And you can shit all of Thanos out and all of his infinity shit. And then even after that, you go and you wake up Stanley from a nap with a cat on his chest. And he's like, did I just dream all that, goose? And then we end.

Yeah, it's perfect. Oh, by the way. I know we were having some fun jokes there. I know he passed away. And I thought it was really nice that they did the intro to Marvel with all of his cameos instead of the heroes. Yeah, I thought that was really nice. I did appreciate the fuck you, Jack, at the end of it.

Yeah, that was a weird move. I mean, even in death, it's kind of fucked up. A little bit. No, no, yeah. That was actually very sweet. And this is the first Marvel movie with Adam. I'm sure they'll do some more stuff for him. So this is going to wrap up our on screen of Captain Marvel in theaters.

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