WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - Alien Bodies & Technology - The Lost Tapes Of UFO Whistleblower Col. Corso

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

Inspired by the sworn testimony of UFO whistleblowers, Congress is grappling with legislation designed to force the disclosure of materials, craft, and bodies allegedly collected from crash sites. The current wave of whistleblowers is not the first to spill secrets about UFO crashes and reverse engineering efforts by military contractors. In 1997, a high-ranking Army Intelligence official Colonel Phillip Corso shocked the world with his account about a Pentagon office charged with dribbling bits and pieces of alien technology out to major corporations and labs. The tech, Corso said, came from crashes near Roswell New Mexico. Corso's book "The Day After Roswell" became a huge bestseller in 1997, the 50th anniversary of the Roswell events.  But five years before he released a book, long before he was known to anyone in the UFO field, Corso told his story to George Knapp. Corso also sat down for two lengthy interviews conducted by personnel associated with NIDS, the National Institute for Discovery Science. The interviews were recorded, though the recordings were never released. In this episode of WEAPONIZED, Jeremy and George revisit the Corso tale and take a deep dive into the unreleased Corso tapes. CHECK OUT the previous episode on the testimony of Col. Corso in Episode #48 of WEAPONIZED here : ⁠https://youtu.be/eyCftd_FHwE GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• BROUGHT TO YOU BY SQUARESPACE You ain’t done nothing right in your life till you go to https://www.squarespace.com/WEAPONIZED to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code WEAPONIZED. ••• Follow UAP whistleblower Matthew Brown's X account and new SUBSTACK here : https://x.com/SunOfAbramelin & https://sunofabramelin.substack.com ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://netflix.com/title/81674441⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, that's right, because you did a number of interviews with him, We chose clips of his testimony from one set of interviews, but you had a whole another huge interview that the public hasn't seen before. So many of the things that Corso talked about are exactly right at the heart of the questions that people are asking today. Here's a cross that was left on the floor, an actual picture of it, with a chapel. You had mentioned also that NSA was picking up signals from space. I mean, did they?

Oh, yeah, they were, say they were intelligent signals given out by an intelligent source. You couldn't identify the source or break the code, though. How far back was that? Oh, this was in the 50s. Not at the White House. NSA was picking up signals from space that appeared to be from an intelligence source. But did they specifically say it was extraterrestrial? Oh, yeah.

This is weaponized. I'm George Knapp, hunkered down in the Los Angeles. Vegas UFO bunker, joined by my friend and colleague, Jeremy Corbell, who's probably lounging a luxurious Southern California mansion. Jeremy, how's it going? Pretty good, man, trying to get some rest. Seems like I just saw you, you know? Seems like we just saw each other. That's right, man. I hear that we were in Vegas together and, you know, what happens when we're in Vegas together. Let's not tell anybody about it. You know, suspense is kind of building, excitement building right now as we await and anticipate a new public hearing to be held by a congressional committee in early September.

Jeremy, what can you tell our audience about where things stand, how far along the preparations are? Yeah, so, you know, there have been some public announcements about the upcoming congressional hearing. And, you know, it's confirmed. It is the ninth. I'm not saying anything that it's not already public. So September 9th, you're going to have a new hearing. It was also confirmed that there's at least three confirmed witnesses. And I can say that that is fact. You know, there, maybe that will be it. Maybe there will be more. I think a lot of it is still being kind of finalized and debated. Now, the nature of those witnesses, I did hear people, you know, make some comments in public about it. I'm not exactly sure that's going to end up being accurate. This is kind of like a moving target. I know we're getting

closer so they're they're kind of making their final decisions but it's going to shape up to be an awesome hearing because everybody they had to select from had something unique to contribute so yeah that's all i can really say at this time just everybody's working hard on it and i'm very optimistic and um it'll happen on the night you know we we both know how UFO world operates i think it seems doubtful that anyone in UFO world will be happy no matter who is chosen to testify or what they might say, but I think that, you know, they're always going to demand more. We want to know more and we want to know it now. Understandable. But I think the hearing in itself is a really big deal and the fact that members of Congress continue to push the ball down the field, trying to get to the bottom of the

stories that we've all heard for years, that they've heard for years, about crash retrievals and reverse engineering and programs that largely escape oversight by Congress carried out in ways that leave even Congress in the dark. So having a hearing to dig into cases, experiences, encounters, glimpses of secret programs or unknown technology are a big deal. And even if we don't have, you know, an actual technician who's personally working on taking a part of flying saucer or who's managing the bodies or the biologics, if you want to call them that, the hearing itself is a big deal. Would you agree? Yeah, on record congressional testimony is a big, deal and it takes a lot for people to be able to do that, especially if they're current service

members, there's extra steps that have to occur. But just anybody going up and willing to do that, there's an entire process that gets to that point, not just vetting, but also just getting people to that point where they can logistically do that. There are, of course, a lot of briefings and hearings that people don't get to publicly see. And this is something I've always been fighting against, but there's a certain limit to it. You know, people might not ever really find out how much testimony has been given in the classified setting behind closed doors. I love it when they tell that it's been done, but it leaves people unsatisfied. They want to hear it too. And I guess just some of the information is so cross-wired with national security issues that a lot of those are

just done, you know, in skiffs and behind closed doors. And sometimes people in the skiffs, they're not even fully able with their clearances to hear the whole shebang. So that's the dance, man. What we can get public on historic record. Remember, we're coming from a dry spell of over 50 years of not having UFO hearing. So this is a big deal. And I am very optimistic. So, yeah, let's just see where it goes from there.

I will say the thing that I've been fighting for the most right now is to make sure to have inclusion of at least a whistleblower. and to go with witnesses, right? And that's been an uphill battle. I still don't know. I still don't know where that's going to land. You know, a lot of people have been asking, you know, is Matthew Brown going to testify? Well, Matthew Brown is willing to testify.

I don't know if he's going to be selected or not at this time. That's the truth. But he did speak a little bit today. I just got a notification on my ex. I've been encouraging him, as well as a lot of other people have. Hey, man, a lot of people want to know how he. you're doing. They also want to know a little bit more about what it feels like to be a whistleboy to go through that process. And then he's done it. So he's created, I guess it's a substack.

He posted it on his X account, which is son of Abram and I don't know, A, B, R-A-M-E-L-I-N. So S-U-N of the word. And we'll put it on the screen or something. And then his substack is the same name or the same word plus substack.com. So people should go read that because he talks about what it's like to come forward as the UAP whistleblower. And I suspect we're going to hear a lot more from him as people have been asking for. You know, these days, UFO folks, we're among them. We want all the information. People on social media platforms will say every single day, come on whistleblowers.

You've got to come forward. Tell us what you know. Spill the beans. There's no way they would dare to prosecute you. easy for people to say as they sit at their, in their home, in their basement, typing on a, you know, word processor or whatever, go ahead and risk everything, risk your life. Easy for them to say, it's a different matter for whistleblowers themselves. They got to worry about, can I be prosecuted?

I'm not sure if they would be prosecuted, but they have to think about it. It's their ass that could land in prison, unlike the people at home urging them forward, or they got to worry about their livelihoods. They work and classified programs, their whole general careers, that having a security clearance is how they provide for their families. That's out the window. You go before Congress and spill some beans. You're not going to work in classified programs ever again.

And then there are all the other things that come along with it, the death threats, the people who speak out, people like Dave Grush, who get slimed. Dirty information about them gets leaked and roughs them up. There are break-ins in people's homes. There are all kinds of really bad things, extra legal things that happen to people who try to become whistleblowers or witnesses. So it's really easy to say, go ahead and do it, risk your lives in your career and testify because we want to know. Well, one of the most famous, most high-ranking whistleblowers of all time is someone that we covered in the early days of weaponized and that I have covered for a couple of decades. And his name is Colonel Phil Corso.

He didn't have to go through Dobser to get approval, as far as I know, to get approval for what he revealed. He didn't have to dodge Arrow and its influence and trying to stifle witnesses and trying to discredit witnesses and cases. He just let it all out. You had told me that basically that's one of the most popular episodes we ever did, the clips from Phil Corso. Yeah, that's right, because you did a number of interviews with him and we chose clips of his testimony from one set of interviews, but you had a whole another huge interview that the public hasn't seen before. And I think it's important because he talks about the craft, the bodies, that they knew it was extraterrestrial. They talked about the dissemination of the reverse engineering technology in the industry.

I mean, all the stuff that people find most fascinating. That's why we're talking about this today, because you're going to be able to show people a bunch of those clips that have never been out in public. That's part of why we do weaponize so we can put out stuff people haven't seen before that's important. So many of the things that Corso talked about are exactly right at the heart of the questions that people are asking today. And I'll set the stage for who he was for those who don't know. Back in 1997, it was the 50th anniversary of the Roswell crash. Corso released a tell-all book, the day after Roswell bestseller, in which he claimed that he'd been personally involved in handling the Roswell wreckage. He helped distribute it to private industry and to national labs to see if they could, in essence, reverse engineer the tech and then duplicate it. Didn't tell them it's from a UFO crash. He implied, I think, that it was from a Russian vehicle and asked them to see what they could make of it. You know, those same kind of claims are being made today. And my involvement with Colonel Corso started five years before anyone in UFO world ever heard his name. There was a journalist named Mark

Soder working in Seattle who we knew each other. And we had both been covering issues related to prisoners of war that had been left behind in Vietnam. Mark Sauter gets in touch with Corso, who had made these claims in years, in previous years, not only that America abandoned some of its soldiers in Vietnam, but did the same thing in Korea. He was ridiculed for this. People said he was a liar. It wasn't true. He went before Congress and testified, and turned out Colonel Corso was right, even though many people dismissed him as a cuck or a liar. They did the same with him on UFO matter. So as Mark Sauter is talking to Corso about POWs, Corso just happens to mention his work on UFOs

and his familiarity with the Roswell crash. Mark calls me up, puts me in touch with Corso, and we started a conversation that lasted for a couple of years. At one point, as I think I told you, I had met him in 1992. At one point, he asked me to write his book, what became this huge bestseller that came out in 97, and I agreed to do it,

but was later kind of squeezed down. out of it by a publisher. Four years later, NIDS gets created, the National Institute for Discovery Science, Robert Bigelow's UFO think tank, in essence. He put together this amazing group of people, well-known names in the UFO field, in science and technology, academics, former intelligence folks, put them together, and they were looking for things to do. For a while, a couple of months, I was a consultant to them, and I came up with the idea, maybe you want to talk to Corso. At that point, I hadn't talked to him in more than a year. I reached out to him and asked if he'd be willing to meet a group of people from Nids. He said yes. So Bigelow gave us his jet. We jumped on a plane.

John Alexander and I left for Las Vegas and picked up Hal put off in Austin. And on we went to Florida where Corso lived. Get to Florida and he starts talking. His family, in particular, his son was very nervous about him saying too much. before the book came out a year later. So we slipped out of the house. We went into Corsos, Winnebago, an R.Bas some kind, and started talking. And I was the cameraman. You'll see how bad the photography is in this, but I have to admit to being the cameraman,

and I recorded every bit I could. We had a subsequent meeting with Corso, but I'll just leave it at that. This is part of what he told us in that amazing conversation. When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, Use Indeed sponsored jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications, and more. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes.

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The white sands headquarters here. This is Red Canyon for my headquarters was. Here's this. This is a cross that was left on the floor. The actual picture of it with a chapel. And the red cany is right there. Where that X is. This is Trindy site.

My debris area was over in this area. financed that particular thing. It was our money. But did they specifically say it was extraterrestrial? Oh, yeah. What year was within the 47-48 time frame? When I did the autopsy, it was in the 50s, early 50s. Oh, okay. No, later 50s, later 50s. That's another report. You had said that the material had sat in files for like 13 years and then you looked at it. I mean, was nothing done with it in that time period or?

Nothing, as far as I know, there was these reports in there. See, I scrounge this material out in 1960. I started to scrounge it out. You weren't really familiar with it before then? Oh, no. I didn't do this at the White House. The White House, I mean, it was raw information on this particular subject. Because the White House, for example, I was in charge of the policy group on giving aid to Turkey.

I had the fault of the Freedom Court. I don't know if you know what that means, what that is. President Eisenhower gave me a hand to me that personally and said, get this going. What it was, there was, we were going to take all the foreign groups, like the labor service groups in Germany, and put them in uniform of their own military, their own countries, and arm them, and give them their own flags and everything in Germany. And Kenan and Bowen killed it. I said.

But anyway, Eisenhower gave me that. They said that the president got sick, went to Colorado someplace, and he got that, had that heart attack. And they convinced the Secretary of Defense and some of the people that Adenhard didn't want it. Later, Odenhower told Charles Carsten's clungerson that he thought that was a great thing. They lied. And the thing that the Secretary of Defense just sat on it. Nothing ever happened. Stalin himself gave orders to give the Roswell material.

We knew that. I never gave any disgust with CIA, only one man of CIA. Do you ever hear her name Frank Hand? He was liaison between CIA, the White House, and the Department of Defense. A living guy. You discussed it with him? Yeah, he was a good friend of mine. Now, but he and I sparred. He used to sit at the White House, you know, in some of the working groups.

Because he was CIA, we sparred for about eight or nine months before we became friends. We didn't trust each other. I was military and he was CIA. He was getting paid by CIA because he was a liaison. When we say it disappeared, is it something that we as humans may disappear or something else may disappear? No, I suspect that they made it disappear.

See, I have to explain this to you. Now, this is a drawn-out thing. When I, the crash at St. Augustine and there, when I looked into that, My radars were picking up some mysterious things out there. Well, I'll tell you about the church after. Here's the White Sands area. The White Sands Missile Range is a low gravity area.

There's supposed to be a lot-gap up through there in the Earth's magnetic fields. My headquarters was right here. Here's the White Sands Missile Range. This was my headcores of Red Canyon. This is Trinity. Right. It was a low-gravity area. Let's see the block wall

makes a zero up through here. And Goddard used this. Los Alamos was not set up by accident. Bon Braun knew this, and so did Obert. That's a, for want of a better name, it's a low-gravity area. And missiles can disappear, in these areas. I discussed this with Wilbur Smith. Once a month, I'd send out trucks on a scavenger hunt.

They got parts of our cast, parts of missiles that look good to you and bring them back. And we would. This boy told me that in one particular case, when the missile had disappeared in his gate, and then there was another time there was an explosion to see, because what we do, here's where we operate. I don't know if you know the way Nike Ajax operates on Nike. It doesn't, we don't fire these a slant range. They fire up this way and then they dive. Right. The moment the big radar locked on the plane, it would transfer it to the acquisition radar.

The one would look like a tub. Right. The acquisition radar, now one of the target track radar would be locked on the missile, standing up on its launcher. The other radar would lock on the target, pencil beam. That would lock on the target. The acquisition radar would transfer it automatically in a computer to the, and then the boy would put that in a gate. And when our missile would dive in, it was supposed to get in the gate, that's when the explosion.

There was a computer would, and I trained my boys, I told them now, I'm in. The moment that missile take off, I want you to drop your hands, because they could adjust with a little dial. Drop your hand, let the computer do it. I made the first perfect missile shoot. It worked. Don't try to put any human, that computer is better than you are. And it worked. But then there were some strange things that happened.

He told me in one particular case, they found one. one of the missiles and all the holes where electric crews had been taken out. The engine looked like it had been taken apart by hand. Now, strange thing happened. I saw a report on Bokendor in Russia. The UFOs came over the aerodrome. And the next day, they found a tower.

was it fell apart. All the rivets and everything fell out of the holes. They were all clean. Now this happened to me at the Red Canyon. The parts that we picked up were clean like somebody

had taken them apart. And not, there was no jagged edges on it like it had been ripped. Now... What time frame are we talking about? I'm talking about 57, 57, 58. Okay. So, and my theory is, now you remember Braswell said that there was a terrific thunderstorm,

and it kept lightning and lightning, lightning. I discussed this, Wilbur Smith, it looked like this buildup a pillar. And when the UFO came through, one of them must have run into, and they found that, that's the one was at the Braswell Ranch, all the parts. And the other one, I think it came through the time frame, and one was a little bit ahead of the other. and they hit. But I mean, do you think the program ended when you left it? Or was there some kind of continuation?

I think it ended. Remember, it took the driving force of Trudeau behind it. As I told you, when I wrote proposals, I discussed something. What he did with it, I don't know. Some of it became, I know, became, went to industry. Who he passed it to, who he discussed it with? I don't know. You don't go, I said, General, who'd you talk to?

I mean, that's just like asking President Eisenhower. Who did you talk to? Who did you tell? I don't ask a lieutenant general of that. You had mentioned, for example, the chip. It went to Bell Laboratories and later to Rockwell? Yes. Yes, I knew that.

I mean, you gave it, you handed over to Bell? No. I didn't hand anything in the industry. That wasn't my job. I do proposals there was set up in R&D to do that type of business. They would follow up the proposals and the thing. And then they would call me. I would go visit the production models.

Then I would call in the industry to do. How did the, was it your charge chip in your file that ended up at Bell? Let's say my proposal, Trudeau would get it, and then it would be written in terms of R&D without my comments. And I would go to Bell Dob. That we had an actual, there was 3,000 people in R&D. Right. They had sections that did it.

exactly that. That wasn't my job to do. Right. But what I'm trying to trace back to is did fell labs actually get a charred ship and wonder... Yeah, they did. They did. Now, that I knew things like that. But how did that happen, do you know?

Well, the general... The general would send it out as an assist, and they thought we stole it from the Russians. So we didn't say one thing, anything about it. Let them think I'd say anyone. So what you did was to write what we call a request for proposal. I'd write the proposal.

Okay. The comments. You wrote the proposal or did you write the request for a proposal? Something that they would then respond to. But putting out enough information to steer them. No, I would write only a proposal on all the facts with the heading on and hand them to the general. He would hand it to other people to put in the form to go to the industry. Okay.

That wasn't my job. Okay. I wouldn't go that far. But then I would get instructions on him to form. follow things up, which I would go. Like I went to the lab on the Nightview Lane, and I'd go to Rockwell, TRW, and places like that. On his instructions now. Now you mentioned that there was a fabric found that couldn't be x-rayed through? No, not it can be x-rayed through. He couldn't cut it.

Well, couldn't cut it. Mm-hmm. Where did that come from? From the UFO thing. So that was on the bodies or something? No, no. It was separate. like debris. You had mentioned also that

NSA was picking up signals from space. I mean, did they... Oh, yeah, they were, say, they were intelligent signals given out by an intelligent source. They couldn't identify the source or break the code, though. How far back was that? Oh, this was in the 50s. I was at the White House.

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You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough. Enough to get lost. Or you could book a stay with Hilton. Welcome to your ocean front room. Just steps from the water. The Hilton sale is on now. Book on Hilton.com or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected. When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. Yeah, well, man. So look, when I was watching that for the first time, that's testimony. That's visual recorded testimony. It's so much of what, you know, Lazar said back in the day, we now have a different way to look at it. And so much of what Corsso said back in the day,

we now have a different way to look at it. So it's really cool that you got that, you know, whistleblower or witness testimony on camera and can now finally share some of that publicly. It was great, man. You know, the Nids guys, Hal and John, they didn't quite know what to make of it. Holy cow, is this for real? But they were impressed. And if they could confirm some or part of what he had said, it would be a really big deal. So John Alexander, I remember, went to D.C. and spent a couple of days over there going through archives. And then we asked, Corso, would he be willing to come out to Las Vegas and tell the same story to a slightly different audience, meaning, again, Hal put-off, but also with Dr. Jacques Bel-A., and with Robert Bigelow and me in the room over at Nid's headquarters,

and he said, yes. So, you know, what happened was John Alexander had gone to D.C. to check into the records, and sure enough, Colonel Corso really did work at all the places where he said he worked. And he really would have been in a position to handle Roswell-type wreckage, physically handle that stuff, if, in fact, that wreckage was under the programmed, ran by a guy named General Arthur Trudeau. It all looked like the story he was telling, as fantastic as it was, was true. Now, in the year since then, there have been a lot of criticism of Corso for stretching it a little bit and inflating the roles that he had, claims that he was made about how that alien technology from the Roswell crash was what inspired and led to all kinds of amazing technology now,

fiber optics, for example, night vision goggles, for example, and other things. He comes out to Las Vegas. He goes through several hours of grilling by Jacques and Hal and Bigelow, and I think maybe Colm Keller was there as well, and by me. And again, the camera work is not all that great. It's my handywork, but it was great just to get it on camera. And we had a third interview after he came to Las Vegas the following year when his book came out, but we'll have that for another time. Yeah, I mean, the thing that really strikes me is he's talking about back then when that,

you know, kind of the testimony is pretty pure. He's talking about bodies. And he says extraterrestrial bodies, alien bodies, reverse engineering, these are the things that people are most interested in right now. You know, we're getting kind of spoiled. We hear all these people come forward and talk about what it is that they've encountered. But he's talking about the biologics, the beings. You say you also had reports on bodies, on alien bodies?

Yeah, that came from Walter Reed. Were they pretty, I mean, they definitely said, not that these were genetic humans or something. No, here's what the report. The thing that I was mostly interested in the report was the two lobes in the brain. There are two lobes there. And this movie showed part of that. They didn't know what they had, though.

You know, some of the things that he said that really stuck out to me is he confirmed with his words that the Roswell incident, you know, was considered extraterrestrial. Because we've always debated, you know, where are these from? But within our military and our government, that was his assessment of their assessment, is that it was extraterrestrial in order. Now, he's going through all of this, I think, 13 years after these files were kind of written. He said something about that. But the story remains consistent that there was some sort of transfer and handling of these materials at a high level within the military, where I think you said that they were transported to Bell Labs and Rockwell. Is that correct?

It's a couple of places where it went. Bell Labs, for sure. and then there was, I'm off the top of my head, I can't remember the other ones, but he said that they arranged for that to happen, which would make sense. I mean, that would be probably how you would handle it, because the program he was part of was pretty small. It was only a couple of guys. He was number two in it. They didn't have the personnel to take that stuff apart and figure out what it could do and what we could be able to build from it. So, yeah, they shipped it out. were very vague about where it came from, implied that it must be from some Russian super secret

crash retrieval program, and off they went to the races. Now, I know that a lot of people don't believe that we made technological breakthroughs based on Roswell stuff, but I think it could have actually been used to inspire those scientists and technicians back then to figure out what it might be used for. The other thing that's remarkable about Corso, is he talks about there were two vehicles that came down at Roswell, St. Augustine is what he calls that crash. And then in his discussion, he mentions Wilbert Smith. That was the leading Canadian scientists looking at UFOs who had referred to being in touch with Americans who knew about this top secret program. The idea that Roswell Tech sat in file cabinets for 13 years and nobody did anything with it drives you crazy,

doesn't it? And then, of course, he'll talk about the bodies, the biologics, I guess, is the current term, how they were handled and moved around. In addition, in the first interview that we aired on weaponized, he talked about meeting an alien, a live one during his time at White Sands, which is a pretty intriguing story all of its own. Yeah, and in this section, he talks a little bit about something we've heard about, which is when there's manipulation of like, after you deploy some artillery or something like that, we heard about this. Commander Frave or relate a story, I believe on the Rogan podcast, where there was an ICBM shell or something that they had deployed in it. And there was a team that went in a helicopter and tried to pick it up out

of the water, the shell or the casing of the missile. And it was sucked down by some spherical or disc-shaped object that kind of became surfacing. And it's like as if it took part of our machinery. Well, Korso also talks about a white sands missile range, this kind of weird thing, how they had shot these artillery or something like that. And then all these screws had been perfectly taken out of them. It was just this offhand story he was telling. But then he also said that it happened at Beikuru, Russia, I think Beikuru, Russia. And that they had similar accounts of kind of dismemberment of these warheads or missiles, which is something you've heard a lot about, which is that there's some interference with our military programs.

Yeah, it very much is consistent with the work that Robert Hastings has done about UFOs and nukes, the visitors, these craft, wherever they're from, interfering with, demonstrating their mastery of our most powerful military technology. Nuclear missiles are disabled, taken offline. Sometimes, as in the Russia example that I've investigated before, they've been fired up and are out of the control of the Russian military. It's pretty spooky stuff. He talked about Nike Ajax missiles. That was the name of the missiles that he was involved with testing there at the White Sands Proving Ground. And again, whoever they are, they're making a point. We can take these apart in unique ways and they don't impress us all that much. One of the weirdest things he said towards the end was that

of the clips that I was just recently looking at today. I think it'll be in the episode. He said something about how the NSA was picking up signals from space that appeared to be from an intelligence source, but the code could not be broken. Can you imagine that? If that is true, if that was true, and it remains true. And they told the public about that, that would have been incredible. I don't know if you ever told you more about that part of his story. Not that I can recall. What I do recall is what he said about CIA, though. And I think you picked up some of that in these clips that were showing in this episode. There were other clips. that we've made public before.

And Corso makes it clear in his book, he did not trust the CIA. He felt that they were a rogue agency back then, and he battled them for pretty much the entirety of his military career. He must have had his reasons, I guess. Yeah, he probably had his reasons. Well, listen, man, I'm glad you got this footage out. I think it's really a good time for it because we are going to see people testified to the UAP and UFO reality when it comes up on the 9th of September.

I don't know what the final picks are going to be, and I couldn't tell you if I did it this time. It's not my position. It's Congresses. I don't know when they're going to announce that, but I'm bursting at the seams excited. So let's just see how that goes. But thanks so much, George. Thanks, Jeremy. I'm guessing you're going to be there for this hearing, right?

Oh, you know, I'm going to sit there, you know, looking all angry and stuff. I got to smile this time. Yeah, it'll be the birth of a thousand memes, a thousand Jeremy. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, probably. Talk to you soon. Right.