WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - Allied UFO Reverse-Engineering Programs Confirmed
Episode Date: June 20, 2023On the heels of blockbuster testimony from UAP whistleblower David Grusch, a letter has surfaced which alleges the UFO coverup is a multinational effort. In Canada, a veteran Member of Parliament sent... a confidential letter to that nation's Defense Minister. The elected official provides very specific details about an ongoing program within the "Five Eyes" alliance (USA, Canada, Australia, UK, New Zealand) to analyze and reverse-engineer exotic materials obtained from crashes of UFOs. Some of the materials in question date back to the early 1950s according to MP Larry Maguire. Maguire urges the Canadian government to get out in front of the UAP story before further revelations destroy public trust and embarrass the governments of the Five Eyes nations. In this episode, Jeremy and George review the contents of this explosive letter, its implications, and the names of the specific multinational programs which have allegedly attempted to reverse-engineer exotic wreckage collected at crash sites. NOTE: Be sure to go to https://WeaponizedPodcast.com to view the document described in this episode. GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at WeaponizedPodcast@Proton.me For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at https://WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You know, this letter to their Ministry of Defense is pretty serious.
Member of Parliament is saying, we need to get ahead of this.
Something big is coming.
That's pretty newsworthy.
Everybody's asking for proof.
I want to talk today about adults.
about a document. We have official acknowledgement, especially depending on how they answer us when we
start asking questions. The world starts asking questions. This is a reverse engineering program of
UFOs confirmed. Secrets, cover-ups, and strange phenomena. UFOs and ideas that challenge reality itself.
All these mysteries, all this time, are we ever going to get to the bottom of these?
My name is George Knapp. I dig into news stories that others can't or won't. I'm Jeremy Corbell.
And for some reason, people tell me things they probably shouldn't.
And this is weaponized.
This is weaponized, sort of.
Special edition, maybe.
Jeremy, why are you bugging me at home?
I know.
And on the weekend, too, man.
So, look, this is, you know, yesterday you said, hold on, slow your horses.
And I appreciate that.
I want to talk today about a document.
And you and I have gotten a lot of documents sent to us over the years, and we're still flushing them out.
Sometimes it takes years to flesh them out.
But this one is current.
And what's interesting about it is the implications.
Now, I know you and I have a lot of work to do.
You've talked to me about that.
We have a lot of work to do to vet it and verify it.
But I want to talk about this document because what it implies, this is the closest thing I've ever seen to direct acknowledgement of UAP
exploitation programs. And we're talking about in a five-eyes alliance, which is the five countries
that we are allied with within the Canadian government to their equivalent of the Secretary of
Defense. This is going to the Secretary of Defense, basically the Defense Minister of Canada.
You've read the document. So before we talk about what's in it, which we should read some of it,
what are your initial impressions when we were set this document, George?
Well, it's from a real guy.
He's a member of parliament.
His name is Larry McGuire.
He was, I did some background research on him.
He was first elected to parliament in 2013.
He was born in Manitoba as a father, grandfather, very conservative guy.
You could say, you could compare him to maybe U.S. representative Tim Burchett in terms of his political philosophy.
He's been interested in the UAP, UFO topic for a long time.
He wrote his own op-ed piece a year or so ago.
He's been mentioned in other coverage as having meetings with the American officials,
former defense officials, people like Lou Elizondo and others.
He has an interest in this topic.
So him writing a letter to their Secretary of Defense, it's real.
It's significant.
But the content is, wow, it's off the chart.
So maybe you want to pick out some of that and explain what jumped off the page and what he was saying
that really grabbed your attention.
Yeah, and some of this we're talking about for the first time.
I mean, we've gone through it back and forth a little bit,
but I want to be really clear that there have been documents sent us in the past that we
are still vetting.
One in particular is explosive, if real, but it's been about five or six years.
We're trying to figure out because it came from a less clear avenue and also the classification
of it.
We're not exactly sure, although it's not marked in a way.
This one is absolutely clearly 100% unclassified.
This is just a memo.
So what's inside of this was so explosive to me because of the previous knowledge that you and I have.
Now, we obtained this and we're going to release this, but we obtained it through multiple individuals.
And that's what's so interesting.
First time it comes to us, we're like, okay, second time we're like, huh.
and then the third time we're thinking, okay, let's pay attention.
So what it says, I think we should just put it on the screen and like read it and then
talk about, you know, what it is in the, in the each bar, it's not that long.
And let's talk about it.
But the essence of it is this.
This is my read on it.
It is absolutely true that they have exploitation of UFOs, UAP, by multiple governments.
and that there's a five-eyes alliance of governments,
five nations that we align with,
UK, US, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.
And Canada is where this document came right.
I love the Canadians, they're so honest.
But in this document, it essentially reads to me
that we have known exploitation programs
and that the Secretary of Defense needs to ask about them
because this person, it's very strange in Canada,
not everybody in politics,
has security clearances. There's only a very small group that has them. So this is like that
point in that movie in Independence Day where the president's on the plane and says, we have area 51,
but there's no UFOs or aliens there. And a guy leans in and says, well, actually, Mr. President,
that isn't entirely accurate. And that's kind of how this document reads, is you need to get
informed, right? You need to get informed and ask for briefings on this. And specifically,
specifically it's to Anita Amand, if I'm presenting it right, Minister of National Defense of Canada,
equivalent of the Secretary of Defense here in the United States. And as you said, this is a political
MP and he's writing this letter, but there's a lot behind this letter. So let's just start
reading it. I think, first of all, March 22nd, 2003. That's current. Does that mean anything to
you, George, that that's so current? Well, yeah, there's a lot going on right now.
both in our country and apparently in other countries, high-level discussions behind the scenes about,
hey, how are we going to deal with this UFO, UAP issue?
Because it's a lot of information is coming out.
So I think a lot of these elected officials are wondering, what's going to happen if it comes spilling out in a way that we can't control?
And they're trying to game it, to figure out how to get ahead of the game.
And that's pretty clear in what Larry McGuire expresses in this letter to their Ministry of Defense.
Right. And also that this is, I mean, that's less than three months ago. So they're aware of all the hearings. They're aware stuff is spilling out. So the way this reads to me is there are programs that we have been involved in reverse engineering, UAP, and we got to get the Canadian information out there. Otherwise, we're going to be kind of stuck losing public trust. We need a communications plan moving forward. You need to get read in by whatever means necessary. And we'll talk about.
that but the title let's go to the title now defense research and development Canada in possession
of recovered uap material so what do you think george that's a weird that's a cool title
so you know i can see members of our congress writing to the pentagon to the tech secretary defense
saying something similar based on all the information out there in the ufo universe that's flowing
around right now. What struck me about this is this guy has some really specific things that he says
in this letter. It's interesting. So let's like paragraph one. Let me just read it and then let's talk about it.
It has come to my attention. And by the way, just so everybody knows who's writing this.
This is Larry McGuire. He's the MP, you know, an MP in Canada. So he goes,
it has come to my attention through meetings with American officials that the United States
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and Senate Committee on Armed Services have been
undertaking in-camera hearings with government and military subject matter experts on the
recovery and exploitation of physical material from unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP.
So that's no, you know, that's no mystery.
he is saying that he knows that our Senate Committee on Armed Services and Senate Select Committee on Intelligence are having,
and that's interesting and important, in-camera hearings.
So he's, you know, that was my first question when I read this.
How does he know?
Who told him?
And this kind of gives us some hints.
It's come to my attention through meeting with American officials that the Senate intelligence
and Armed Services committees are looking into this stuff, that they're all hot on the trail.
Now, does that mean that he, Larry McGuire, has met with his counterparts in the U.S. Congress, the Senate, those Senate meetings? Do you know the answer to that?
I do know. And we publicly know that it was Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick that said that they had a five-eyes meeting or alliance, right?
And that they're talking about UAP. What was so shocking to me about Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick saying that as if it was new is that you and I, George,
both no, there's a paper trail to the Five Eyes Alliance, these countries' alliance, on the
UAP issue explicitly, documents that have passed through by our eyes, as well as conversations
we had.
It kind of felt disingenuous to say they were just having those, good for us.
There has been UAP information shared across that alliance for so long now that it's, like,
ridiculous to kind of throw that out that they're just starting to. So there is more about,
you know, Larry and his counterparts, but let's just go to part two. I think this will start
showing you his psychology. I am concerned that expected upcoming public announcements will be
coordinated between AUKUS, which could damage Canada's credibility with our allies and the
Canadian public on the global stage. There is an opportunity.
to have a prepared communication plan in place by May of 2023 to reduce this risk.
Well, they're certainly dragging their feet now that we're in June.
But here's the deal.
He was talking about doing this two months after having this communication plan.
There has barely been one.
Something that he says here is ruining their credibility, right?
And with their allies and the Canadian public, there's a reason he's saying this.
The reason he's saying this is because he doesn't want to lose public trust by the people of Canada,
but also our allies because they got a dirty little secret.
And that little secret, I think, will be revealed now in the further reading of this.
And you go ahead.
If you want to read, it's a good sentence, the next one, as Minister of National Defense.
As Minister of National Defense, you may not be aware.
Defense, Research, and Development, Canada, DRDC has participated in efforts to analyze U.S.
which is publicly traceable to circa 1950, suggesting whatever records they have, they've had it since
1950. This recovered foreign material is studied through the Five Eyes foreign material program,
FMP, which in Canada is sponsored by the Canadian Forces Intelligence Command,
aligned with several intelligence sharing arrangements and treaties. I'm writing to recommend you
request a classified briefing containing full, sensitive and protected program and
information from your officials on the government of Canada's historical and ongoing efforts
on analyzing recovered UAP material.
He's sort of hinting that he thinks maybe the Ministry of Defense,
maybe the Prime Minister are not in the loop,
but that's specific info on CRDC, DRDC, and this Five Eyes program,
five-eyes foreign material program, we've never heard of that before.
We've never heard of it, at least publicly acknowledged in a document like this.
So what's so cool is the defense research and development Canada, the DRDC, that is their version of DARPA.
So if you guys, you're familiar with that, right?
So it's pretty amazing that he's saying, you might not be aware, but that they have been participating in efforts to analyze UFOs, you know, UAP.
And when he says it's traceable back, it's publicly traceable to circa 1950, I was I was trying to.
to really think what's the greatest possibility of what he's saying. And then I started to remember
that there is a document from 1950. I think it was September of 1950 that you're going to be
really interested about because you know about it and you know some of the people involved,
George, but that was a Canadian government engineer named Wilbert Smith concerning the
1950 meeting with Sarbacher. Our audience probably doesn't know who Sarbockers, but that's likely
what he's talking about, he says publicly traceable. What did Wilbert Smith say in that official memo
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So Wilbert Smith worked for the Canadian government.
He took an interest in UFOs, now called UAP,
and he met with his American counterparts and got briefed.
Sarbacher was one of the folks he was in contact with.
In UFO world, Sarbacher is pretty famous.
He was a presidential level science advisor.
I think he stretches back to FDR.
He had the highest security clearances, a brilliant guy,
who publicly acknowledged, I think, in the 1970s through a series of letters,
that, yeah, he was invited to participate in the analysis of UFO material
that it had been recovered from these crashes.
He didn't understand why it was so secret,
but it's his quote that was repeated by Wilbert Smith
that this is classified higher than the H-bom.
So Sarker was somebody who was in the know,
who was invited to be part of this program to analyze the material,
says he never actually did,
but he confirmed some things to Wilbert Smith,
who wrote letters,
and then those letters came spilling out years later.
But basically, way back then,
the U.S. and Canadian governments, scientists,
were exchanging information about this incredible mystery.
So you have an interesting history with,
Sarbacher, we'll talk about that later.
So I think what he's saying here in this part is essentially referencing 1950 is probably,
you know, in Canadian government going back to Wilbert Smith and Sarbacher memo.
Do you think that's correct, George, if we guess?
It could be.
It could be he's referencing something else.
Maybe he has more specific info about the material, but we won't know until we talk to him.
Well, I will tell you this, and we're going to talk with him.
He has met with firsthand direct program exploitation people.
I know that for a fact that he has met with them.
So it was this big, oh, my gosh, moment.
We found our program.
We found our UFO exploitation program.
So this is almost like a defense system.
This letter is like, whoa, we better get ahead of it.
So thanks for reading that one.
And then let's go into, oh, yeah, and the FMP,
which is the five-byes foreign material.
program. Turns out it's real. I had not known about this. Maybe I was out of the no. Maybe everybody's
going to be like, oh, you should have known that. I had no idea. So looking that up and getting some more
information, it is a real program. Yeah, that's fascinating. I don't recall over hearing that before.
It's possible I did and forgot about it, but yeah, there it is. So then just to go a little bit deeper,
so Canada's chief science advisor has also launched the Sky Canada project, which is investigating how
the government of Canada manages UAP reports.
So this is like their version of Arrow.
They are in the process of identifying key Canadian stakeholder institutions just like
our government did with the DOJ and private industry, law key.
It is essential the chief science advisor be given full access to defense programs and be
briefed on the collaborative scientific research efforts with our allies.
So he's saying, hey, you got to get the chief science advisor fully brief on all this.
And again, in Canada, I've learned that it's kind of different than in the U.S.
In the U.S. where like represented Burchett can, he has a clearance, classification, he can be read into certain things.
Turns out in Canada, it ain't like that.
There's only a few people that have the ability to have clearance to be read into things.
it's an equivalent to the gang of eight that we have here in the U.S.
They don't have a lot of people that can be read in.
So furthering down in this document, so I get that, he's identifying this.
He then goes on to say, it is imperative the government of Canada have a communications plan
to respond to these upcoming public revelations that will stem from these American FMPs,
foreign material programs. Not only are there national security and aviation safety concerns that
need to be addressed, but there will be a larger debate about why there is a lack of transparency
and accountability regarding UAP programs and policy. Whoa. So he's saying, yeah, it's safety of flight,
national security, but public trust, we've been lied to. Everybody's been lied to. The public's been lied to. The
public's been lied to. And there's going to be a major debate about that. That's pretty cool.
He said that. Well, the debate has been underway in this country for a long time.
Anybody wants to wade into UFO Twitter would see it, the debate and the discussion and the
harsh criticism. It's been that way for as long as I've been involved with the UFO topic for
more than 35 years. And so he is suggesting that something is coming, upcoming public revelations
regarding these American FMPs, that's the big question is, what inside info does he have,
if any, about an upcoming announcement? Is he talking about, I hope that he's been communicating
on this with Senate intelligence and Senate armed services and that they are conveying to him that
something is coming? Hopefully, we've all been waiting for that day to come, but I wonder what it
is and when it might happen. So this is one of the questions we got to ask him, is how much does
known, I can say for sure. And again, we don't have to take my word for it. We're going to
hopefully talk with him. But he has been directly interviewing program witnesses. It's like
they uncovered a exploitation program and they're like, oh, shit. So that's how I understood it.
And I know some of the people that he's spoken with, both in person and also through, you know,
Zoom or something like that. But in his country, in those programs that are at,
Allied exploitation programs. That's what's interesting. So let's just finish it for the people
that are just hearing on audio. He says, I also believe there must be parliamentary oversight of
efforts by government institutions and responsible ministers should be fully briefed on this program.
He's talking about a program specifically, including releasable to the public content that
aligns with allied public disclosures. So he's saying if we have evidence based on the disclosures
from allied nations, we need to give it up. And he's saying that they do. It is incumbent,
your department inform you of what collaborative efforts have occurred with our allies and the
details of existing agreements and memorandums of understanding that govern the program, the
program, the UAP program, and may have been coordinated through global affairs.
So he's sure to say may have been, but he's talking about very specifically details of
existing arrangements and memorandums of understanding.
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I think he is dropping a big clue there that he knows this stuff is real, that he is aware of
these memorandums, these agreements that have been made, that there is in writing something
that spells out what the arrangement is between these countries on how this is to be
investigated and handled.
He's hinting that he's got him and that the Ministry of Defense had better acknowledge him and get
ahead of this all the way through this letter. He's really saying, we need to get ahead of it
because something is coming and we don't want to be caught flat-footed. We don't want to be caught
supporting a lie. We need to get ahead of it with the Canadian people so that we can tell them
truth within limits of what can be made released to the public. And he kind of puts a point in that
in his last main paragraph. He says, Canada's credibility with our allies and the Canadian public
must transcend politics, and I firmly believe we can work together in a bipartisan manner.
Regardless of the classified details of specific FMP's foreign material programs, the public
revelations by these subject matter experts who have testified before Congress present, present
an opportunity for the government of Canada to take a visible leadership role in confirming
the existence of recovered material and balancing our national security obligations.
I look forward to your response. And if you seek any further information, please do not hesitate
to contact me. He is informing the Minister of National Defense, like the Secretary of Defense
in the U.S. equivalent, that she's not aware that they have been participating through
basically their form of DARPA, through this Five Eyes foreign materials program, in the reverse
engineering of UFOs. That's what this document admits. I think he could also be saying,
look, I know about it. And I know that you know about it. So it's time for you to come clean.
I mean, I think he's characterizing this in as polite a way as possible to say, boy, you need to get
briefed. You need to be brought up to speed on this. But I suspect behind the scenes, he knows
that she knows. And he's telling her, look, the beans are going to be spilled. You got to get ready to
come clean on this. That's what I think. Yeah, the way I understand and I could be wrong is that she doesn't
know. Oh. She's pretty new to the job and, and that they don't have the clearances. And this is not
something that's, you know, usually put up as like a first thing that's given to, you know,
people of a secretary of her. She might know how, how I have no proof either way. It's just my
understanding that she doesn't. But ced on this are a number of people at science and technology,
all that.
I noticed one major general Michael Wright,
commander of Canadian forces,
so strange.
His name has been brought up to me for years now
as somebody who was what they call a gatekeeper
to this information.
And it never registered with me like, really?
Like, why would I know this?
Seeing his name there, that feels like a warning shot.
That individual knows about these programs
from what I know over a few years now.
That individual knows about these exploitation programs that are coordinated through Five Eyes and with Canada.
So putting that person on this as a CC feels to me like a shot fired.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
Here's the questions that jump out of me again.
How much information does Larry McGuire actually have?
Did he get a briefing from members of our congressional committees?
We know that he met with Lou Elizondo and had a briefing there.
we know he met with SCU and had a briefing there.
Does it go beyond that in an official capacity where they leveled with him,
hey, here's what's going on?
Secondly, does he have the paper trail?
He's referencing specific programs.
He's mentioning documents, agreements, memorandum.
Does he have that stuff already?
Or is he fishing around to try to get it?
Because if he was already got it and he's sent in this letter to all these muckety mucks
in Canadian military and government,
it's almost like a threat. Look, I know about it and you know about it, and we better come up with a plan to let the Canadian public know about it.
Well, there was an article, and there was some public statements that, you know, he was making.
So Larry McGuire is not a newcomer to the UAP topic. A year ago, May 2022, he wrote this article in a Canadian publication called The Line.
It's an op-ed piece where he says the headline is, UAPs are real, and Canada should take them seriously.
And he gets into some fairly specific stuff.
He says the greatest barrier to better understanding the phenomena is the stigma surrounding it.
It's encouraging to see this begin to subside and allow the topic to be both publicly acknowledged and studied.
He says American senators and members of Congress have shown greater willingness to seek information,
ask questions, and engage the public in recent years.
However, unlike its counterparts in the U.S., the government of Canada has yet to show even the slightest
curiosity or concern. He goes on. The evidence of UAP is overwhelming and has been affirmed by presidents,
former heads of the CIA, the current NASA administrator, intelligence officials, and trained military
observers. Now there's an ability to have a serious discussion on this matter. More individuals with
impeccable backgrounds feel comfortable speaking publicly about what they know. He references the New York
Times story, gives the Canadian readers a little history on current events and the UAP
world and is demanding more accountability and more transparency, which a lot of members of our U.S.
Congress have been doing as well.
Absolutely.
And the other article that really caught my attention was by Brandy Vincent, June 15,
2023, so, you know, a few days ago.
It's titled, Five Eyes Alliance remains tight-lipped on how it's collaborating on uncovering
UAPs. So I think it was defense scoop, asked government media officials from all the nations
to provide more details in the wake of a recent meeting held at the Pentagon. And what's being
referenced, so again, Five Eyes is the U.S., the U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
That's the alliance. So what they're referencing is what Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick said when he was
talking about that, oh, we are coordinating with him. But by the way, I just got to say it.
Dr. Kirkpatrick is lying through a mission, kind of.
I mean, he is.
He says they entered into this alliance with our allies on this topic.
We entered into it.
Well, we've been in it.
We've seen documents representing UAP transmissions, like information being spread.
So it's not like they just entered into it.
So the interesting thing was online, a friend of mine who's active on Twitter, he wrote something saying,
a sciop coordinated by the Five Eyes Nations on their own citizens would be a blockbuster story
all on its own. And that's just the least interesting outcome of any serious UFO investigation.
Are journalists scared of what they'll find? I don't know why I said that. That's funny.
It's like a poke to get people to investigate. But he's right. He didn't know about this document
that I'm aware of. I know he did it, but he's referencing this defense scoop article. And I read
you the title. And when I look into it, it's a fascinating article. People should read it. It's very
short. And I don't think we should read it here. But I think anybody listening to this,
they should read that. We'll put links to it. But it's an interesting article that relates to
this five-eyes kind of, you know, blockbuster story. Well, the idea that there's been a Psiop's
program forever. That's been around for a long time. The people who do not want to accept UAP
reality have used that argument. It's all a trick. You know, the CIA has tricked us about its spy planes.
They lie to us all the time to hide things and that this big Psiops is created in order to
increase defense spending, which I find to be absolutely laughable. When does our Pentagon get told no
when they want to spend some money on something? They don't need an alien threat. We got plenty of
real-life earthbound threats that they get all the money they need. In fact, they get more money
than they request. Congress forces spending programs on them because everybody likes to have a
big fat defense contract in their congressional district. So the idea that the whole UFO mystery
has to be created as a siops to get more defense spending, I find absolutely laughable.
Yeah, man. And did you see that? I know you did. It was the, right,
Robert Kennedy's son that was on the Rogan podcast and Joe started throwing punches on Twitter.
I was like, whoa, throwing punches.
One of the things he talked about, a clip that I did see was that his uncle, who was President Kennedy,
he at one time realized that these intelligence agencies had an expansive agenda of warfare
and that he was at some point right after Bay of Pigs and after pulling people out of Vietnam because the casualties,
was just like, oh, no, we're going to shatter the CIA.
We're going to dismantle them.
And he said it was two months later that he was murdered.
So the implication is that there are intelligence agencies that have oversight over the UFO phenomenon and materials.
They do work with governments, but that those materials were sequestered into private industry as a way to hide them.
And that the overseers or the oversight is not proper oversight.
These are illegal programs that people,
position who should be told and should have oversight don't. That goes all the way to the Wilson
memo to what we were hearing back in the day about, you know, who it is might control these
programs who even Bob Lazard got, you know, pay stubs from an office that does exist that we
know now, but at the time they thought was named wrong. So the CIA and certain departments within our
national intelligence as well as private industry have had hands in these programs. So the question is,
who's not being told that should? Who's not having oversight? And I think that's why Senate and the
House is fired up because they're not being told and they're starting to realize they're being
lied to and obfuscated from. And that's going to fire anybody up. Well, there are lies that are
told even now that have been told for a long time. There are deceptive programs.
created to divert attention away from something real. CIA does that kind of stuff.
Other elements within our defense establishment, they do that stuff. There's no question
that's happened over the years. But they've also lied about the essence of this mystery.
There is a real core mystery here with definitive proof, and they've known about it for a long
time and have successfully muddied the waters so that the public really does not have an
understanding of it. You had mentioned before about, are journalists afraid of it? Well,
Yeah, I think a lot of them are afraid of it because they've been so adamant in saying there's nothing to it and making fun of people who dig into it, that when it comes out that they are completely wrong, 100% wrong, they're going to look like idiots.
But yeah, I think that's what they're afraid of.
So let me just be the optimist.
I'm standing back and I'm like, okay, we obtain this document.
Now, it's weird, like the type of it looks so weird.
It's like this picture by grain fields in full color.
That's because these days, when you're sending around memos,
It's not typewritten like all these 50s memos and UFOs.
That's what you do.
But it was kind of weird.
But I know that the document is 100% real.
I know it was written by him.
I know that it was passed around to certain small communities.
I know that it found its way to us three times.
And then I was able to affirm it with somebody that was an individual that was up in Canada as well.
So to me, I'm satisfied it is an actual document.
Let's see if they deny it.
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You know, the biggest headline to me is there is a five-eyes program to analyze UFO material
and it's kept secret.
I had no idea that, I mean, well, we've seen hints that there is communication on this
issue through those five nations, through the militaries, but I didn't know there was an actual
specific program that deals with recovered foreign technology, specifically unknown origin.
That's a pretty big deal.
Larry McGuire is obviously somebody who's very passionate about this.
You mentioned he'd written about it previously.
There's an article in something called The Line.
The headline is Larry McGuire says UAPs are real and Canada should take them seriously.
That was May of 2022.
Since then, he's up to his game.
You know, this letter to their ministry of defense is pretty serious.
Member of Parliament is saying, we need to get ahead of this.
Something big is coming.
That's pretty newsworthy.
For me, the headline is everybody's asking for proof, proof that what's something,
that David Grush, let's say, what he said is accurate?
You know, what do we have?
We have an IG complaint.
They could end up dismissing that IG complaint.
It doesn't make it real just because it's an IG complaint,
although they did find it credible and they did find it urgent.
I find this document to both be credible and urgent because what it is saying is that we have
been reverse engineering UFOs and that we've been doing it a long time.
It's referencing all the way back to the 50s that it is a secret compartmentalized program
with allied nations and that this information is spilling out and we got to get ahead of it.
This is the closest thing to proof that I have seen what people would call.
called disclosure. This is not somebody saying it. They're kind of putting it in a memo, but it's
unclassified. I wonder if they knew that at some point, somebody is going to be able to talk about
this and put it forward like we're doing. So to me, this is a moment where we have official
acknowledgement, especially depending on how they answer us when we start asking questions.
The world starts asking questions. This is a reverse engineering program of UFOs confirmed.
That's my headline.
Yeah, yeah, right. And it's been going on for a long time, and it's been kept secret.
I'd be curious whether Senate Armed Services and Senate Intelligence Committee members or staff
have seen this letter, if it's floating around in those circles. Do you know?
I do. And I think that you and I will make some calls so that we can just confirm it on record
together. So that a lot of eyes in the U.S. have seen this letter. It's been a
floating around in intelligence circles for a little while, for two months, I guess.
I wouldn't say a lot of eyes.
I wouldn't know, but I definitely know some eyes.
Well, we'll see what Larry McGuire says when we call them up.
We'll see what Sean Kirkpatrick and others in those kinds of positions, how they react.
I'm curious.
I mean, it's dramatic stuff.
I mean, go Canada, you know, like how is this information going to get out?
sometimes it's just going to be some, you know, representatives being like,
yo, we got to up our game, you know, Department of Defense.
What's going on here?
Their curiosities like ours.
And I think he makes just in Larry's defense, I think that he makes a really good point.
I think he says, look, I became aware of this.
The Canadian government has these programs and we're working on UFOs.
We do need to communicate to our citizens.
We need to up our game of communications.
This is not like a tactic of like trying to cover.
something up. This is a tactic of UAP transparency. He is putting the APB out and shooting a warning
shot to the secretary, basically secretary of defense over there. We need to tell people. We need to be
honest. And I applaud him for that. So I don't even know as politics or anything. I don't really
care. He asked for bipartisan in this letter, bipartisan. So whoever this guy is, who he is as a person,
he's doing the right thing right now. UFOs might be the only bipartisan issue in this country.
as well. I mean, it's the only thing that members of Congress have different parties seem to be able to agree on.
So I look forward to digging into this some more. Maybe this recording here will never see the light of day.
We'll have to see where it goes. But it's pretty exciting. It's an exciting development.
It is. And so George, just so we're clear with our audience, we don't have to make a second video later
clarifying. What are we not saying and what are we saying from your terms before we dig into this as
journalist a little bit more. It's an open case, cool document. What are we not saying?
And what are we saying? Well, we have not talked to Larry McGuire. We want to, we'd like to,
if he will talk to us, tell us, A, what kind of briefings he got, B, what kind of paper trail he's
uncovered. C, has there been a response? He ced a lot of people in this letter. It was written
two months ago. Did he get a response yet? He's a member of parliament. He's been there for 10 years.
you would think that they would at least
respective enough to give them some kind of response
even if it's a brush off.
So finding out what the answers to those three questions,
I think would be key.
Excellent. Hey man, I love being on the hunt.
I love doing this with you.
Let's do it right.
Hopefully we just get this out right away
and then we just have done a little work by then.
But man, there'll be an update on this.
So see you and thank you, man.
Talk to soon.
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