WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - False Prophets and Flying Objects - The Whistleblower Wave

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

In this wide-ranging episode of Weaponized, Jeremy and George share insights into ongoing preparations for another UFO hearing scheduled for early September. Members of Congress and senior staffers have met with or spoken to several potential witnesses, including some with first-hand experiences of advanced technology observed at U.S. military bases or defense contractor sites. However, many of these eyewitnesses remain reluctant to step forward, fearing retaliation. Influential figures in Washington are pushing for legislative actions to reassure potential whistleblowers, while others, including well-funded defense contractors and intelligence agencies, are equally determined to block transparency efforts. Who holds the upper hand? In addition, FOIA warrior Dustin Slaughter returns to Weaponized with another stunning UFO case extracted from a reluctant Department of Defense (DoD). GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• Follow Dustin Slaughter’s reporting on X at https://x.com/DustinSlaughter and his publication at https://UAPregister.substack.com Follow Matt Laslo's reporting on X at https://x.com/MattLaslo and his publication at https://askapol.com ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://netflix.com/title/81674441⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What's the importance to that? Got to let people know the truth, whatever it is. To suggest it might not be just a rock, it might be an alien craft, that's provocative, but within the range of, hey, we can speculate what it is, we don't know yet. To take it to the next step, it could be hostile, they could be coming here to kill us and invade, Earth. Where the hell does that come from? You fought this other case and you found and got them to release UAP information from a military base about a cylindrical UAP. I read your article, so tell us all about it. This is weaponized. My name is George Knapp, coming to you from the Mojave Desert,

Las Vegas, to be specific, joined by my friend and colleague Jeremy Corbell. How you doing, Jeremy? I'm doing good, man. You're in the Mojave Desert still. Is it hot out there? A little bit. Yeah, Just a little bit. You remember I was having a conversation like a month ago, how I was going to take some time off away from the show and other things. Let me tell you how that worked out. My friend Jeremy would not leave me alone the whole month. And I was ready to blame you for it,

but I realize you're acting as an agent for the guy who really is cracking the whip, making us work when we were trying to do other things. And that's Michael. Our friend behind the scenes, Michael. Am I correct in making that assumption? Oh, yeah, he's our intergalactic handler. He's the creative producer and just producer of weaponized. We couldn't do this without him.

And he's saying, hey, man, you got to talk about this. It's like he's excited about everything UFO. He gets me excited. Yeah, he's got UFO disease pretty bad. And it's a good time for it, too, because there's a lot of stuff going on. I mean, you know, I've had a little bit of time on my hands over the past four weeks. Trying to keep up with all those stuff, it's impossible. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, this is kind of for me, this is the calm before the storm, because I know in September, all indications are that we're going to have a great hearing with people with close proximity to craft, what we call firsthand whistleblowers of a certain category. We'll see. I'm not in control of exactly who's chosen, but absolutely kind of bringing in nominations to be vetted and that sort of thing. So that will happen in September. So this month, I think a lot of people, Congress, but also just people in government, are taking some time to look into the UFO thing. I heard a little bit about that. J.D. Vance said in some podcasts, he was obsessed with the UFO issue and he's going to study it this August. That's great, man. There's a lot to study. So I think we're going to see the results of that. Yeah, I saw that. And I, you know, I'm encouraged by it. That's great. You know, if only the vice president was in a position to, you know, have some power and force people to release some information. Or maybe if only he knew the top guy in the White House, the president, could ask him to get some.

of this released. But whatever the reason, I'm glad he's interested. I suspect Donald Trump, Jr., might have something to do with that. He was the guy who urged his dad to pick J.D. Vance to be vice president. And we know that Jr. is very interested in the topic. So maybe he gets the credit for getting Bance to jump in. But I think that's a good sign. That's a good deal. Yeah, that was a very positive outlook, man. I like that you're encouraged by that. Look, I don't know, everybody's screaming for transparency and all this stuff. a lot of it's politically motivated, and I understand that. But anything that kind of brings us to the forefront, I've seen this meme around like aliens before Epstein.

And I was like, what the hell does that mean? And I'm looking at it. And there's serious speculation that our president being a kind of wily individual, you know, he might, you know, push forward the information about UAP as some people say to distract from the upscene stuff. And other people are just saying it's like a cool legacy. And I'm like, are you, are you serious? Do you really think that might happen? I don't know a lot about politics. But there's some buzz right now that, you know, we could learn more about the UAP thing just because of the political environment. Well, I don't want to get too partisan either, but you can't help it with this point. I've seen it all over the place. I think it's fair to say that Donald Trump has a history of trying to change the subject of succeeding in changing the subject.

whenever he doesn't like a particular dominant conversation, he engages in what you'd call counter-programming to take attention away from what he doesn't want people talking about. And I think he's tried to get everyone talking about something other than Epstein for quite a while now. It hasn't exactly worked. I would not be surprised, though, if he goes at it. I saw one of the late-night TV hosts was talking about this, making that prediction exactly any day. we're going to hear about aliens because it would distract from Epstein. I think it might distract from Epstein for a day or two, but I'm not sure how well that would work. I know that, you know, Trump has mentioned UFOs and aliens a couple of times when he's been asked. He didn't

voluntarily talk about it, but when asked, he'll give a sort of a noncommittal statement. Yeah, I've been briefed. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't really believe it is what he has said, even though he's heard from, I think, some pretty good witnesses and pretty good intel people who briefed him. I know that, you know, there are people in his administration, who I was in touch with, in between the election and the inauguration, who very much were interested in the topic, who were interested in sharing information for the public. I suspect, though, that some of those guys have now decided, if there is hidden technology and there are secrets stash somewhere, we'd like to get a run at it. Before we spill all those beans, we'd like to get our chance at taking that stuff apart, doing some reverse engineering, and see if, you know, the tech pros, as you and I've discussed before, if the tech industry can make more progress than the Lockheeds and aerospace companies of the world have done over the past 75 years, assuming that they really do have some good stuff.

So, yeah, if Trump makes an announcement that distracts attention from Epstein, awesome. That'd be great. we'll take whatever he wants to give us. Yeah, there are a couple comments that I've been seen in the media that were pretty cool. So I know about this. So I know like Senator Mike Rounds, who's been this kind of unsung hero with the Disclosure Act, he's kind of quiet when I met with him. He was real kind of subtle. But at the same time, he's very knowledgeable about this topic, I mean, to the degree you can be.

So I saw this interview he did on this like, look like a local kind of news show. And the core of what he was talking about, is look, we know there's misidentifications. We know that, you know, all throughout history, that this has been a topic that people haven't gotten right. He's like, but there is a core truth here. And what the Disclosure Act kind of leans in on is technologies of unknown origin. And he kind of brings that up that there are craft,

they're operating ways that we don't have the capability to produce. So it was really cool to see him in the news talking because he, rarely does that. He's at a couple recently, but he rarely does that. And he is really the force behind the UAPDA, so the Disclosure Act, which he did reintroduce to Senate. So there is kind of some hope there that if we keep the language in and we keep pushing forward with the hearings coming up, that it will kind of create a puncture. It'll get the media involved and we'll hear more from whistleblower. Yeah, he's, I'm, you know, he's a smart guy. And behind the scenes, he's not a show horse. He's kind of a workhorse guy. He's really been.

doing things to move the ball down the field that don't always get in the news. And it's encouraging to see him step forward. Big surprise was that Senator Schumer, Democrat, reintroduces this legislation that he had championed before. And I have to tell you, I've always thought his interest was comparable to Donald Trump's, you know, about that deep. They would say things to get a reaction, to get a distraction, but they weren't all that committed to getting to the bottom of the mystery and what it means. Schumer, reintroducing this, sort of changed my opinion on that. You know, I think it's a, it's a bold step. I'm not an expert on all the language and what this act does. Maybe you know more about it than I do. Yeah, I mean, a little bit, maybe, I don't know,

I've read through it a number of times. The main thing is that they're pushing a new language and they're trying to get this in the forefront where they have to force people to relinquish, at least that they do have what they consider technology of unknown origin. I mean, they say NHA, non-human intelligence, but I like the term technology of unknown origin, because that's a little bit broader. We don't really know. It was Ask a poll if you go on Twitter, and he found that little moment with Schumer. So Matt got Schumer on this, like, subway thing. And Schumer says, look, the people have a right to know. That's why we're doing this. You know, he obviously knows that there's something going on, and he wants people to know where that's what it appears like.

So it was cool to hear even Schumer talk about that now because if we got these hearings coming in September, it's really good that all these people are pushing through this legislation, which hopefully will kind of bring more transparency to the issue, right? I think it's great. I'll mention one other name. A guy, a member of Congress, Representative Berluson, you know him. And he's, you know, I think he was fairly non-committal on the UFO issue at the beginning. But man, he's jumped in with. both feet into the deep end of the pool. He's made some statements. He's caught a lot of criticism from UFO world about the people he's hanging around with and the issues that he's investigating, which is kind of stupid. I mean, you know, he goes down to Mexico and to see the mummies. And I think he was in the company of Stephen Greer and a lot of people in UFO world don't like Greer, but it's Berluson trying to find his way in a very complicated topic. He doesn't know he's not supposed

to be seen with Greer. He doesn't know that. He doesn't know. that the UFO people are skeptical about the mummies in general. He's trying to find out. He's going to the places, talking to people. I think that's a good sign. I think it's a good indication that he's genuinely interested. He'll figure it out. He'll figure out who you can trust and who you can't, what's real and what isn't. I mean, we've all been there. You all have to start somewhere and you separate wheat from shaft. The learning curve is steep. It takes a long time. But he seems really committed to getting to the bottom of it. And he's going to make mistakes here. there, right? Yeah, and I really like Representative Burleson. Like, I think that he's probably having

the time of his life. I'm think about it. You're this representative and you get to do, and represent and do all this kind of personal looking into things and go down to Mexico, whatever he's doing. So I think where the rubber meets the road is as he's doing that and as he's learning and he's saying, look, we're going to try our best. We're going to bring people forward. So help. You know, that's the point. And he is helping. He is helping. And like, you know, let's get this going so you can hear from more people who are not just talking philosophically about UAP, but who have direct information, whether it be some sort of exotic technology of unknown origin that they saw on a base, like, I don't know, a triangle, you know, or something like that. That'd be so cool. Let's allow these people to put this on record under oath.

And then let's have the investigatory powers of Congress jump in and say, look, look, we know for a fact, this was seen, this was observed at this time. What is it? And I think that's going to be the kind of where the rubber meets the road is when we get these people to talk openly and publicly, is can their accounts be investigated and run down? And with somebody like David Grush, as a government employee, former whistleblower, I don't know in history where you take a whistleblower, put him into a government job, it's pretty awesome that they did that.

And he does have a huge capability to direct and help influence. Congress to look in the right direction. You know, look, I'll tell you this. The OD&I, they also have a task force that's new. And this task force has a lot of different portfolios, but one of them is UAP. And when they're looking into this and looking for transparency on the issue, the first thing they should do is look into the 100 plus classified document that was submitted by David Grush.

Like, they don't need to like ask me or you or anybody like what's going on. They should look within their own internal systems of what was submitted by David Gres for the ICIG and run it down. And so I think there's a lot of positive movement. People are fixated and obsessed with this idea of transparency. And I am behind that. You know, I want to know the truth about UFOs, you know. I should tell our audience, we have been in touch with members of Congress, with congressional staff, the people who are working to set this hearing in motion about potential witnesses.

is you, way more than me, but you've talked to them a lot, you've been involved with them a lot, you're trying to help them, put together a good event, a powerful event that is meaningful in the utmost way. It's hard. This stuff is hard. The UFO public can sit at home and read on Twitter or X and say, this is what we want. We want this witness. We want somebody who's going to tell us this, who has hands-on taking apart flying saucers, that's what we want, and we're not going to settle for anything less. It's risky for those folks. You know, the legality of it is not really clear on whether they are protected by sharing

classified special access program information with members of Congress. And you and the staff members and the elected members are trying to do their best to put together a whopper of a hearing, but it's hard. Yeah. Yeah, the staff members that are working on this are highly dedicated, really intelligent folks and really open to hearing, you know, from different people. Now, some people that I've nominated and brought in, they're not fully allowed to talk about everything in an open hearing and they don't want to have to sit there and be like, close session, closed session. So we're trying to find that sweet spot where people can tell as much as they can without kind of crossing that line of strategic advantage or something like that. So, Look, man, we get what we get. But I think at this point, if we keep pushing to get and educate these congressional members who are, again, under Luna, with this House Force, highly dedicated. I am actually really excited to be working with this group of people just to nominate and bring people in because it's very different than the last hearing, which is great. I do want to bring up real quick.

A pal of ours wrote something as Admiral Tim Galdad. he wrote a letter from Seoul Foundation. Do you want to talk about that? I can mention what it is. Go ahead. Yeah, he wrote a letter to the White House Science Advisor on behalf of the Soul Foundation recommending UAP research become a national R&D priority, research and development priority. And that's kind of like a flashback to the idea of the Manhattan Project. And you look at what it took as a nation to tackle this problem or this issue.

And I think he's right, man. I think Admiral Tim is right. And I think writing to who he wrote to is great. And I hope it has some traction from Seoul saying we got to get the brightest minds on this. We know you got hardware of unknown origin. We got to get the brightest minds on it because you got AI right now where the salaries that people are getting are far beyond the salaries that people were getting doing the Manhattan Project or anything. So we need to kind of invest in this space and come clean about it if we're going to have an event. with these technologies. More than we grifters are making on weaponized? They can't be more than that.

Great money? Yeah, yeah. It's incredible, man. The AI salaries these days are, you know, in the hundreds of millions over the course of like four or five years, you know, 230 plus. So they're basically, what you're seeing is incentive to get people to work on the AI issue, of course, as a weapon, but also is how it's going to kind of integrate into society. Look, my cyber truck just got GROC put on, which is really cool. You can have these full conversations, existential conversations with the mind of the high mind of the internet. You know, the world is changing.

And I think that the more we can incentivize people to deal with this NHI possibility and technology, the better. So it's a really cool letter written by Admiral Tim Galbert. Well, you know, it sort of leads into a topic that we have discussed on this program and elsewhere over the past year or two is, you know, does it land? A letter from Admiral Tim Gallaudet, who is a very credible guy, knows what he's talking about, has friends in high places, and he represents Saul Foundation, which is also highly credible, filled with big brain people who want to get to the bottom of the mystery. he sends it to the White House Science Advisor, what priority does it get? I mean, look around what's going on right now. You know, we've said it before for members of Congress. There is always something more pressing than UFOs. There's always something that they've got to deal with that's on the front burner and UFOs are on the back.

I mean, right now, look at it. There's a lot going on. I mean, the president just a day or so ago says he moved position nuclear submarines where they'd have a better shot at Russia. that's a fairly big little issue that we usually be paying attention to. The economic news is pretty bleak. You know, the tariffs are having an impact, causing a lot of turmoil with trading partners. We're seeing that the jobs, the number of jobs that are created were wildly inflated. And instead of fixing the problem, they killed the messenger. They fired the person who reported that stuff. There's a lot of things going on. Ukraine, Gaza, all kinds of stuff. UFOs might be an interesting issue, but where is it on the pecking order for people at the White House? For people in Congress.

It's tough for them to put too much energy into this issue, which is important to us and might be big in the history of humanity in the earth, but is not the most pressing issue right now. Well, it is highest on the pecking order than we've ever seen it. So we can't, you know, deny that, that you have this all over the media. we used to have to fight to get certain stories kind of popularized in the media, hey, this is important. But now I can't turn left or right without seeing something in any podcast or mainstream media that doesn't deal with this. And I love that.

The vice president of the United States saying he's obsessed with UAP, great, let's start there. Look, there's also been a surge. I was looking up, you know, how has the statistics been of sightings? And I went to our old pal at the National UFO Reporting Center. and there were over 2,000 reporting. There's a surge in the U.S.

of UFO sightings and reporting with his organization. I think it was like, I wrote it down, hotspots like New York, there were 66 since the beginning of the year. Michigan 36, Illinois, 34. Not all of these are going to be,

you know, the greatest cases ever, but there is a surge, and that surge shows me that people are looking up. They're thinking about it. They're reporting it. And I'm real happy about that.

I did also see in the news. And I want to be really clear. No, I'm not Nostradamus. I saw this thing all with the web. Did you see that shit where Avi Loeb's? Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about that for a second. So everybody knows that it's been all over the media that Avi Loeb is going around talking about that there is an interstellar object, you know, maybe a comet, maybe not a comet, maybe an alien spacecraft. And it's coming towards Earth. It's like the third one we found. It's really fucking big, which is interesting. And I listened to what he had to say about it. Like, Harvard educated guy, you know, he's, he's been very vocal about this, which I appreciate very

much. But in listening to him, it felt like when you take away all the big words, what you're hearing is that there's an object coming this way. And because of the trajectory, it's so limited that it could come in at this trajectory. It might be an alien spacecraft. And I just honestly, you know, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't, I just don't buy it. It just sounds like a reach that because of these trajectories at these times that we're going to jump right into an alien spacecraft. Now, people did put next to his articles where I'm talking to my last show about the lie. So all of a sudden, I look like fucking Nostradamus, right?

Not the case. This is not. I did not predict this. So just to be clear, there is an undercurrent. of intelligence agency individuals trying to, quote, shape the emerging UAP narrative who have been using this idea of a craft coming to earth to employ individuals to harness their, their mics, their microphones and their voices and their commitment. And that's what I was warning people about. That that was nonsense, that that is a reemerging narrative that will continue to come.

So this might be, in a way, this might be. a sort of symptom of what I was warning people about. But it's not directly what I was saying. I mean, this thing's going to come by Earth the closest, I think, November, November 60th or something. I don't know for sure. But it's not 2027. And also, by the way, when I said, I never actually said the words in the show in 2027. There was a range that people were kind of spreading within media and UFO industry.

And that was between 2027 and 2036. you know, leave yourself a big ass window if you're telling lies to people. That's what you do. So, look, if I'm wrong, we're going to be invaded and it doesn't matter anyway. However, I just want to be really clear, which is that there is this undercurrent from intelligence agencies, and I absolutely wanted to warn people that I thought it was bullshit. I still think it's bullshit. And I think it's a way to harness people's attention.

And I think it's diabolical. But this is not exactly what I was talking about. I was really surprised by Dr. Lowe. comments. I mean, he's a really smart guy. Astronomer, Harvard, and for him to even announce that there's interstellar object, you know, the third one maybe ever that we've detected, that is a big story by itself. To suggest it might not be just a rock, it might be an alien craft, that's provocative, but within the range of, hey, we can speculate what it is, we don't know yet to take it to the next step. It could be hostile. They could be coming here to kill us and invade Earth.

Where the hell does that come from? How does he even propose that? How could you presume to know what the intent of aliens are, if this is an alien craft? I don't understand who is whispering in his ear because it's not a good look for him. I like that guy. He's smart. I'm glad he's out on the forefront of this, but it felt like somehow someone was whispering in a... his ear and asking him to spread that message. Maybe that's the distraction from Epstein. I don't know, but it was very troubling to me and really surprising. Yeah, I mean, there's a few options here if we are speculating, like he's speculating. And, you know, one of those options is, okay, they need funding. They need money. So you say sensational things about aliens coming,

and then all of a sudden you get people's attention, like within Congress and that sort of thing, and it funnels attention and money. You know, or, because he didn't say it. just like, you know, kind of generally. This is like he was saying some weird things that were kind of very provocative. So the other option is that this is an undercurrent to the lie, to the false narrative that I've kind of told people, I believe, is the key here. And, you know, he is somehow influenced to propagate this idea of some alien invasion and just put that seed into population.

I don't know. I don't know the guy. I need to like talk with him to kind of figure out where I think he's standing. but he did get the attention of Congress. There was a really cool letter that Representative Luna sent to NASA that was based on Avi's paper about this, Avi Loeb's paper. And basically when I read it a few times to make sure it was like,

the letter from Representative Luna was trying to get this, it's called a Juno spacecraft that's orbiting Jupiter, to possibly task it to go get a better imagery of this interstellar object, which I'm all for. I think that is so cool. But it was basically like, hey, will you check if we got enough gas to go look at this thing? That's all that it was saying. And again, I think it's a great thing to do.

The internet has said, oh, there's not enough fuel and they did all these calculations. I don't know. But I do think that more exploration of this object would be really cool. But I don't know why Alvi Loeb would go into this doom thing. Was it influenced by some intelligence agency telling this guy to start seeding the public with this idea of an imminent? invasion? I don't know, man. I don't know. Interstellar object. That's for sure. It's big. It's heading his way. All that's solid. That's good. To it might be an alien craft. All right, I guess you

put it in the mix, maybe, to their evil aliens and they're coming to kill us. That is a hell of a leap. I still am astonished that he went there. It has to be influenced from somewhere. Perhaps in a future episode of Weaponized, we can speculate where those boys are. are coming from because I know both of us have an idea about it. I want to mention, you mentioned Representative Luna. I think that is a long shot proposal, but I like where her heart is. I know she has critics here and there, people of different parties and maybe same party, but we think her heart is in the right place and she's working hard to get to the bottom of this stuff.

And I like what she's doing. Her colleague, our friend, Representative Tim Burchett, is sidelined briefly, sent to that article. he had an accident with a horse. And we've gone back and forth in texts. And apparently there's broken bones involved. And I swear it's a cover-up. I don't think he got hurt by a horse. I think he fell off a skateboard and he doesn't want to admit it.

He's so great. Okay, send in love to Representative Birchett. Get back on that skateboard, baby. We know you're lying. We know it wasn't a horse. You've been surfing the waves with your skateboard. I've seen those videos of him on a skateboard too. But you never sign-line representative Burchett.

You know, no, he'll be right in there the next moment, you know, working this issue. Moving on. So our friend, Mr. Slaughter, who has done some great work, we had him on weaponized earlier. In the week, in the month that I was taking off in the show, we did an episode that you forced me to do. But it was great stuff. He's using FOIA as a weapon, as it's meant to be done. and he's making progress that other FOIA users just haven't ever been able to succeed at. What's the latest finding from him?

Yeah, so that's where we're going to pull him in because he did have another success, where he combated where they didn't give him information. This is a guy that's bringing documented military, in this case, UAP cases to light that we would never see if he wasn't doing this. I just want to make sure that he tells us himself what the case is that he just broke last week. that more people can come to him because there are witnesses to this case. If you're a witness to this case, go to Dustin's slaughter. So let's bring him in. So Dustin, man, how quickly you come to another revelation. I know you had to fight for this one, but let's get down to it,

man. So you worked your FOIA process. And I hope since the last episode, you've gotten hopefully some calls from people that want to contribute to what you're doing. But you fought this other case and you found and got them to release UAP information from a military base about a cylindrical UAP. I read your article, so tell us all about it. Yeah, so this incident occurred on the morning of September 15, 2012, 23, at a place called Avon Park Air Force Range in basically Central Florida, I guess. There were four service members who were transporting small UAZs within a restricted. part of the range. And as they were

transporting these small UADs in these two vehicles, one of them caught the glint of something metallic out of the corner of their eyes. So they looked and they saw a basically a cylinder, a cylindrical cigar-shaped object approximately

500 feet away. And another described the object. as being basically the size of four traffic helicopters. So in length. What year was this? This is 2023. Oh, so it's super recent. Yeah.

And these are trained dudes that use UAVs or UASs like on their military installation. And these are the witnesses. Have you talked to any of the witnesses yet from the event? Not yet. Not yet. But I would really like anyone who had something to do with this incident to, you know, to contact, contact me and so we can get some more information about the incident.

How did you get on to this? How did you know to file that? Or did it just come in some batch of other stuff that was requested? It was just a batch. Basically, every five months or six months or so, I file a FOIA request with the Federal Aviation Administration. This is kind of like a regular thing, a routine thing that I do. And I came across this highly redacted portion of a large spreadsheet that the FAA turned over.

And in that spreadsheet, well, I got that like many months ago. And then I appealed asking them to unredact that portion of the spreadsheet because I was like, that looks really juicy. And they finally relented. And yeah, so this was a, so basically. I should probably explain to you a little bit about the process of how this got reported real quick. So these four service members on their range contacted their superior. Their superior, once they collected all that information, contacted the FAA's military desk at a basically like an air traffic control center closer, I think in Orlando it was.

And then Orlando contacted basically the highest FAA security echelon in the organization is called the J-TAC, the Joint Air Traffic Operations Command. And that's how that report got through to the FOIA revised. About the incident, was there any engagement by the objects that they just happened to be seen as they're going by or they pay attention and recognize that these guys were doing something interesting? No, I mean, there's, again, there's not a whole lot of information, unfortunately. So I don't, you know, but, but the, the report that I have makes it pretty clear that this object appeared to be stationary, I think. And, and basically there was no acceleration when it disappeared. It would literally was described as it just disappeared. And we've heard of this kind of, you know, behavior before, from other UAP.

So. So like a basics. So you got a cylindrical or cigar ship UAP in 2023 over a military installation where they know everything about drones. You got multiple. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the unreal college deal, everything you need to study and play with select Windows 11 PCs.

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Yeah, so that's at least 135 to 1505 feet. So that's a pretty sizable object. if you could get in touch with any of these eyewitnesses. So if you're an eyewitness to this, 2023, what's the area again? The area was, it's called Avon Park Air Force Range. It was in a restricted range. And I guess presumably they were going to test these drones in this range

or fly these drones in this range. The other thing real quick that I wanted to point out too was that the people who actually produced the report noted that there was nothing detected on radar coming in or out of that range during that time period. So this thing was definitely anomalous. Well, I'm sure people were ready to say it's a drone, it's a balloon, all the standard stuff. In fact, the irony is that these guys who saw it were transporting. drones, UAVs.

They know their stuff. That's where they test this stuff. The only drones that were scheduled to be out on that range that they were the ones that they were transporting. So yeah. Wow. So hopefully, I mean, they didn't want you to know about this. They blacked it all out.

And you're like, there's got to be something interesting underneath those redactions. And that's how you got all this info, right? Yeah. When I saw the type of redactions, the code that they use, I was like, number one, that's military. Number two, that's got to be juicy as hell because they redacted the entire portals. portion of it. So, yeah. We have no indication that anybody had a cell phone and got images, or do you know? There's no indication of that in the report. But, you know, I suspect because the incident happened so quickly that they probably didn't have a chance to whip out their cell phones

and take a photograph or a video. So. Yeah, you never know, man. And around military installations, too, there are a lot of cameras. And so oftentimes there is data that you just got to ask for that's been hidden, like George's friend Jay Stratton, when he went after cases, he went after the data. And so I think that once you kind of bring this to the surface a little bit, so my hope on you coming on weaponize is people understand the date, the location, the general observation. We know there's at least three plus witnesses, right? Yeah. Yes.

Yes. Okay. So will they come forward and talk with you in confidence about it? I'm sure they didn't have to sign any NDAs. They can talk to you. So if they do talk to you along the line. And that would be a huge update. So anybody that knows anybody in that area, start asking questions.

Yeah. And I also want the Old Domain Anomily Resolution Office to release their findings because they are still investigating this incident two years later. Well, they're very helpful and thorough. And, you know, transparency is the byword over there. Wait, so Arrow knew about this. Arrow knew about this event before you got the details? Oh, interesting. I wonder why they wouldn't tell the public about this a little bit.

So they definitely know. Arrow definitely knows and has talked with the direct eyewitnesses to this account. And it would be interesting if a transparency organization such as Arrow would bring those people to testify about what they saw, by the way. You know who Arrow has been in touch with is skeptics. Now, we learned in the last couple of weeks that they've been bringing in skeptics to consult with them. You know, people who are real experts at avionics and planes and sensor systems, even though they've never flown or used any of them. It's almost like Arrow gets its debunking ideas from people who are on social media. I don't know. So they should bring you in, Dustin, and talk to you about what you know. Yeah, and I hope that some of those debunkers actually admit that they went to go meet with Arrow.

Right. I mean, they should. I mean, I'm transparent about talking with Congress. I mean, they should. Hey, let me ask you this. You guys hear that Neil deGrasse Tyson has an episode coming out with the current director of Arrow, Kostlovsky. Oslofsky. Yeah, yeah. So that'll be, I think that launches on the 8th of August. We're all interested to hear how Kozlovsky, how he goes about talking about his organization. People say he's a great guy. If he's honest, can't wait to hear. So, hey, Neil the Grass Tyson, let's hear the episode. That should be a high ranker for him, right? Jeremy. right up there with weaponized in the podcast rankings. Let's see. Let's see.

Dustin, let me ask you this. The last time we talked to you, you know, we kind of encourage people to go ahead and reach out and help you out. And I forwarded some messages from folks who say, I'm all in. How can I help? I'll file FOIA requests. Did anybody get in touch with you? Are you talking to folks like that? And are they helping? Yeah, I have had a number of contacts with people. The challenge has been, basically kind of, I can help them with the FOIA process itself, but they want me to tell them like what to file. And, you know, I'm kind of of the mind of like just kind of throwing a net out whatever you're curious about going after it. And you don't necessarily need to have all the

details of an incident. Just hidden agency, you know, ask them with, you know, given the time frame to look for, some documents to look for. And, you know, never know where you're going to find. Sometimes it's some really interesting stuff. So I encourage more people to contact me and you guys. And, you know, I'm more than happy to give them a head, like a push and give, you know, give them language to use for the FOIA request. But I really think it's important for people to use their imaginations and kind of just cast a big wide net and see what they get to. Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Dustin. You're doing great work. And someday, Jeremy, you and I will be begging him to, can we please come on your podcast or your site and give us a little bit of

attention? He's got a shiny star. He's got a stunt podcast. But Dustin, it is cool when you get very specific info. Like, for example, when you shoot a missile out of UAP and it bounces off. So I know that you're up to other things where you have very specific info you're going for. We're not going to talk about that here. We want to let the process work.

but when you get very specific info about UAP designated UAP videos with date and time and location and kinetic action against those UAP, man, you know, they can't hide that from you when you get that specific. So even though use your imagination, broad spectrum, there are opportunities in your work to specifically go after certain UAP videos. And I want to tell everybody, Dustin is doing that. And I'm excited to see where he lands. Yeah, man, so that's great. I love that Dustin updates us.

I really look forward. I know he's working on cases that he can't say right now. And I can't wait to see if he gets data because he might get more data than Arrow if he keeps going this way. And I just want to conclude also that I am optimistic about September. I'm very optimistic, more than optimistic. I know that they've got people to choose from now who are firsthand. And I really hope that they do get a voice under oath at the hearing. It'll be one of the best hearings we've ever had.

A word of caution along those lines. You know, it seems like every week a new whistleblower pops up on social media with some pretty huge claims. Witness whistleblower, whatever term you want to use. I worked here. I had the material in my hands. I was at Lockheed. And they announced themselves not to Congress, not in a skiff, not in proper procedures where their legal rights are protected, but just on social media. Be careful, you know. Caviat Emptor. Be careful because it sure seemed to be a heck of a lot of these

folks coming forward. And it feels like they're lobbying to be included as a witness and a hearing. And we don't know how that would end up. Just be cautious on what you accept as being real. I saw our friend Ross Coltard has done some really good reporting. He's reporting, for example, the return of drones. The ambition comes in all shapes and sizes. At First Citizens Bank, we roll with your goals because we're built for what you're building. Fit for your ambition for Citizens Bank. You said this place was steps from the water.

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now book on hilton.com or the hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected when you want savings not surprises it matters where you stay hilton for the stay uh over new jersey these orbs are video uh that's pretty interesting i've been getting reports from florida a heck of a lot a spike of unknown activity in the skies over florida which has long been a hot spot and um and we love getting that kind of information, don't know how to analyze it. We are not image analysts. We have no expertise in that area, but are always glad to see it, right? Yeah, yeah. And we do know image analysts, you know, that can help us out and keep it quiet if we need to do that. So yeah, cases keep piling in. It's an interesting time with that. Do you want to say two things. A buddy of mine, he made all

the movie posters for each of my movies on Netflix and Hulu. His name is Scott Nice. And he made this cool song where he samples, you know, things that I've said before it, and he put it out, I'll put it out on X, but he's put it out on his Instagram, and the guys are really talented musician named Scott Nice, and he's helped me, and the UFO topic, he's helped a lot by creating a beautiful artwork over the years. Also, there was a Netflix show, we talked about it last episode, but I actually watched it now. Train wreck, Storm Area 51 on Netflix, two parts, watch it now. And, you know, it was pretty cool, man. I was worried that they were going to kind of twist the narrative a little bit.

They didn't tell everything. They were making a show to kind of, you know, it's called Train Rec. They have a show called Poop Cruise. So obviously they're making something that's kind of entertaining and fun to watch. But yeah, I think it's worth watching. It shows the power of the meme culture, you know, after the Lazar movie came out. And after Bob and I went on the Rogan show. and this kid made a meme and it got really wild.

It took like virtual life into the public realm and nobody knew what was going to go on. You remember all that Storm Air 51 stuff. So it was just kind of neat to see their interpretation of it. I will say they weren't thorough in some ways, but that's okay. It was a good show. People should watch it. I have not seen it yet. I will be watching it.

I'm glad to not be in it. You and I were both interviewed for it. I'm very happy that I got on the cutting room floor. you're not a bad guy in it, right? No, I'm not a bad guy in it, so they missed the mark on that one. They could have really tried to make me a bad guy. But no, it was fun. I have a few little cameos in it.

I was helping the kid navigate, and so were you at the time. The FBI were trying to get him a lawyer because we didn't know if they were coming after him or in what way. It's an entertaining little snippet, shows a part of the reality, and it's neat to watch. Something closer to Earth and actual reality. I saw some video that was posted on

dreamlandresort.com at York, our buddy York, our news website that's all things, Area 51. This video was posted by a guy who's now on YouTube, uncanny expeditions. Uncanny expeditions and he posts these videos.

Really great images of Area 51 from Tikabo, which has been the only remaining place we can really see it. He's found a second location, high up, that seems to be a better vantage point. I just saw it this morning. the images. If you can find it either on Dreamlandresort.com or look up uncanny expeditions,

it's really cool imagery of the base. Talking about people that get raided by OSI and FBI, you know, Jorg, you know, how is he doing after he got completely freaking raided by the feds? And now he's putting up new videos on his website about Tickaboon and whatnot? Obviously, he's not all that intimidated. I mean, if you haven't been on the website for a while, He basically says, my website is endorsed by the FBI because they raided him and took all his stuff. I think he regrets not having access to all that material he collected over the years. He's had no communications whatsoever with the federal government or law enforcement about whether he'll ever get it back. They have, I think, five years to decide whether they're going to file charges.

Obviously, they're not filing charges. They just wanted to mess with them. And send a message, I think, to other people who are Area 51 curious, folks who collected information, images that you better watch your step. I don't think that it had the intended effect. York is still in business, and it's always interesting stuff there. He was reporting, for example, about these wildfires that were coming from both directions toward Rachel and Area 51. Clouds of smoke. I think the government, test site folks, the Air Force, were just going to let these fires burn themselves out. What the heck, it's just desert, you know, what can it harm? And it was a couple

100 acres became 5,000 acres, then became 35,000 acres before they took any action to try to get it under control. Well, speaking about people, you know, rated by the FBI, so then I hear that we're going to get our Bob Lazar fix coming up this summer that that new movie might be coming out with our pal Bob. Is that the case? That's what I've heard. I've been in touch with Luigi, the director of this. He anticipate that it would come out this summer. We're down to the last month of summer. So, hopefully in a number of weeks. I know he's putting the finishing touches on it. You and I have both seen these virtual reality images that he created, these goggles where it looks like your inside S4. And it's down to where the bricks were,

the color of the walls, nuts and rivets and things like that, as described by Lazar. If it was just a film about those images, it would be worth the price of admission, whatever it is. But we're getting close. I know that Bob and Luigi are pretty excited and I can't wait to see it. Me too, yeah. Bob's such a nerd. He's like, it looks just like

Seypour, and it's so cool to see. So anyway, wish them luck with that endeavor. It'll be neat for the world to see that. I hope it comes out soon. You know, I love watching that stuff too. So all right, man. Well, thanks for coming out of hibernation for weaponized. Are you with us? Are you back? No, no, no. I'm taking this month off too. I'll talk to you in September, which means me taking this month off means you will call me every single day. That's right. That's right. We'll have an episode next week. All right, George. Good to see you, man. Talk to you later.