WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - Fight The Power - UFO Transparency

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

For more than 75 years, the Pentagon, intelligence agencies, and major defense contractors have muddied the waters and thwarted attempts to obtain some measure of transparency regarding the UFO mystery. The recent wave of UFO activism by the public has led to congressional hearings, the creation of a new agency to investigate UFOs, a NASA study, and genuine interest within academia and news media. Now, the Keepers of the Secrets are pushing back, trying to quash congressional inquiries, discourage legitimate studies, and thwart honest scrutiny by major media. In this episode, Jeremy and George look closely at several recent developments that are a direct threat to UFO transparency and they issue a call to arms to UFO activists to take a strong stand right now, before this window of opportunity closes forever.  Here is where you can go to make a CALL or send an EMAIL and MAKE some NOISE & FIGHT the POWER! https://www.uapcaucus.com/enduapsecrecy https://www.witnesscitizen.com/enduapsecrecy-2023 https://DisclosureDiaries.com/push-for-transparency https://DeclassifyUAP.org/action  OR just CALL this dude’s office : Mike Turner, OH-R, [phone], [e-mail] Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (or HPSCI)  •••  GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at [e-mail]  For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media.  Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at https://WeaponizedPodcast.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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write Patterson Air Force Base and is heavily funded by the aerospace industry. If you look at who funds this guy's campaign, he might as well be the congressman for that Air Force Base, which has been the center of the UFO controversy, the UFO mystery from the beginning. From what I understand, he sees, he wants to crush all of this, all of this. So all this legislation, You know, really, that's why I'm telling people, you've got to contact people from Hipsy and reach out to Mike Turner by telephone because this is the guy that's like blocking a lot of so what I'm told is that they don't think anybody is looking right now. They don't think that people are super interested in this topic.

I don't like using the word disclosure, but it's been said to me, this is our greatest shot at disclosure right now that we have ever had and that we, and if it doesn't pass, that we will have until another generation kind of of government comes into place. So, yeah, again, I will be making calls. Secrets, cover-ups, and strange phenomena. UFOs and ideas that challenge reality itself. All these mysteries, all this time, are we ever going to get to the bottom of these? My name is George Knapp. I dig into news stories that others can't or won't. I'm Jeremy Corbell, and for some reason people tell me things they probably shouldn't. And this is weaponized.

This is weaponized. Welcome back. We took a week off, I think, so Jeremy could take like a gigantic cruise to the Caribbean or something like that. Is that what you're up to, Jeremy? Oh, yeah. Totally on vacation, man. Thanks so much. No, not on vacation, man.

I've been fighting another battle. Yeah. So a little bit to catch up on. A lot of events in D.C. and elsewhere that we need to talk about in Canada at NASA. a lot of things going on, Mexico, that we want to touch on and get caught up on. So why do you start? Yeah, man, the UFO world has been firing on all cylinders. I mean, it's been pretty crazy, man.

I've been just kind of watching. I've been a lurker, just kind of watching everything that's been going on, trying to see where this is going. You know, it's funny. It's every time we make a big step forward when it comes to UFOs and UAP transparency, there seems to be these distractions that come and these weird, just everybody. everybody's throwing in and throwing down, and some of it is so disingenuous. So, I don't know, let's start breaking things down from how we saw them come about. First thing I wanted to talk about was UFOs in Canada. If people remember on one of the weaponized episodes, you know, we broke some news, man.

We gave people information that there was a foreign materials exploitation program through the Five Eyes program. I mean, it was pretty crazy to get all of that confirmed in this letter. that was put forward. So it kind of alerted the world to the fact that, you know, there are these organized attempts to exploit UFOs or perceived UFOs, unidentified, and that it's organized amongst a number of countries. We then also saw, I think, a couple weeks ago now, that there was another memo to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Is that correct, George? Yeah. Right. Right. And it was about the shootdowns, and specifically about what they called it object number 20, which I think was the February 10th shootdown, the UAP shootdown over Alaska.

And in this document, it referred to UAP number 20, which I think was designated by NORAD. And they say that they're not sequential or something like that. Who knows? But UAP number 20. And in that document, it basically said the full exploitation of that object had not been completed at the time of the memo. So did this?

retrieve anything over Alaska? It has been a lie that they haven't found anything? Surely they would not lie to us, and I won't call you surely again. But, you know, they told us, all right, three UFOs were shot down in over a couple of days, made big news around the world, then it kind of went away because our government said, gosh, darn it, we look so hard for this wreckage, but we really couldn't find it. Is it possible that they were not completely honest about that, as they haven't been for 75 years, I would say, yes, it is possible they retrieve some of this, and they're trying to figure out what it was. And this memos tend to indicate that that is the case, that we are being lied to once again. Right, but being lied to about what? I mean,

you and I called it that this whole, you know, triple shoot down was going to be balloons. And sure enough, one was a Chinese spy balloon, not a new phenomenon. This is something that has been going on for a long time. Of course, they say they adjusted the sensors, shot. down a couple more things over Lake Huron, which, by the way, everybody that I know that has seen the videos of these shootdowns say that that was likely balloons over Lord Huron, or Lord Europe, over Lake Huron. The one over the Alaska, I think it's fair enough for me to say that I've spoken with numerous people who have seen the video, the video of that attempted shootdown, the missile that actually missed, and then the shootdown of whatever that object was. And I'll tell you,

from all the people that I've talked with that have actually seen the video, they tell me there's really nothing to see. You can't see what the pilot is talking about in the footage. You can see the pilot circle around, but then the footage cuts out. So we're talking about on classified servers, apparently if my track record is any good, the people that I have spoken with who have actually looked at it said that there's really not anything in that footage. And they're curious, too, within the intelligence communities, what happened to that wreckage? Was any of it recovered? And in that memo, object number 20, if full exploitation hasn't been achieved yet, has any exploitation of whatever they shot down been achieved? And the question becomes, why can't they make

that video public? Is it some deep, dark secret that our warplanes have the capability to record video images, thermal images, things of that sort, in various sensors? Of course not. Our adversaries know that that technology exists. And if, as you say, the object itself cannot be seen in these videos, what is the big problem with releasing it? You know, we see that they are capable of releasing something when they want to dismiss the UAP issue and sort of write it off and explain it. But when we've got a truly interesting case, like maybe this one is, according to some of the people who are on the inside, we don't get to see it. Yeah.

And in fact, some people now in the intelligence community that I speak with on a regular basis, they are worried that they are not even posting all the information from those alleged or attempted shootdowns, that some of the time codes, like where it's cut off, to give you an example, we've talked about a bunch that there's four extra minutes of the gimbal footage. And in that footage, if it were to continue playing out, that you see a really spectacular rotation and reverse angle by the gimbal itself. So in the intelligence community, in the IC, that's not posted like on CIPRNet or any of these classified servers. That full video is not there. So you have to ask, or they actually are asking, people in agencies are asking.

They're asking me like, I know the difference, is some of that being hidden? from their community. The other thing that's been brought to my attention is that some of these online forums, like something called R-space, so on these intelligence servers, there's communities of people that are focused on the UAP topic

out of personal interest. A lot of people I know that access these, you know, on a daily basis, has said that after David Gresh came forward, they saw an infiltration in these intelligence community servers of a whole bunch of new members. And they said part of it is just new interest because they're like, who is this David Grush guy? They go in, they look.

David Grush is a known name. He's on a bunch of what they call products. Like he is exactly who he says he was during those time periods. So they went in to verify for themselves. But something that they find really suspicious is that with this new flood of interest and people coming in, that there's a lot of lurkers that seem to be trying to dissuade people from looking further. And that's really strange to me, that even in the intelligence communities circles on their independent, you know, classified servers, that you would have like a sort of counterintelligence group working to mess with people's thoughts about UAP. I want to remind our audience, our listeners of what you and I have been saying throughout this season of weaponized and in public presentations and in interviews and discussions is that our position is, while there has been great progress, made. Academia, there are scientists and professionals who are taking an interest in the topic.

Mainstream media has come so far in the last few years in reporting sometimes honestly about the UAP mystery. Government, Congress has an interest in it. But despite all that progress, the closer we get to actual disclosure, the closer we get to the goodies, the harder the pushback is going to be. We're seeing it now. And I think in the course of the course of the course of the of our conversation today, this theme is going to come up a number of times. Yeah. And, you know, again, we do it to ourselves in some way. Like, there are opportunists when it comes to, if UFO is reaching a kind of climax in the media,

there are people that insert themselves and they jump in with a whole bunch of just bullshit. And this happens all the time because they're just riding this wave of popularity. But something more sinister that I've been noticing because a lot of people in the intelligence, community have been saying to me that they feel that there is a coordinated attempt within the intelligence community to be dismissive. There's actually some products by certain agencies that may have passed in front of yours and my eyes that try to dismiss some of the things that we know to be true and it's disingenuous. So it is very strange to think that even within the intelligence community itself, that there's a proactive

attempt to make people less interested in hunting down the truth about UAP. Because you get people like Dave Grush coming forward, he broke from the fold. He told people how it was. And we can get more into that later, but people saw that. And I don't think it, I think it was highly frowned upon by certain elements within the intelligence community. In fact, we know it was because we know, for example, the Air Force has gone after David Grush internally.

This is something we reported on a couple weaponized ago. There have been numerous attempts to say that he spoke outside of his dopser. And we saw that fail, but there's another attempt right now by another agency. And let's find out if that fails. And I think it will because David Gresh hasn't spoken outside of his dopser. And I think he's clear to talk about more now. Remember when we said he would be unmuzzled? I think we saw that a little bit recently, but we're going to see that more.

Yeah, I was very interested in that interview with David Grush. the YouTube guys, friends of yours that you know pretty well. It's always great to hear more of what Dave learned on the inside. If he feels free, I think he has some more flexibility to discuss some details. We were always hoping that we would get him on weaponized. Maybe after he does Sports Illustrated and Nifty Nickel,

we'll get to interview him here. I don't know, man. I think we talked to him so much. It's like it would be formalized for him to be on with our show. But yeah, I think it would be great at some point. We'll die deeper in. But let's talk about real quick Jesse and American Alchemy because that's what we're talking about.

So if people haven't gone to look, a buddy of mine named Jesse has a YouTube channel called American Alchemy. And on that, he did a very humanizing interview with David Grush. It was also pretty funny. So first of all, it was humanizing because you get to see David Grush is not some guy who's robotic and he's up there in front of Congress. He's a guy who's truly in his mind speaking truth to power. And it really comes across in Jesse's piece.

But something even more. First of all, it was awesome. There was this logo that comes up about Grush versus Neil deGrasse Tyson. Oh my God. Grush would crush Neil deGrasse Tyson on a debate about UAP. Talk about somebody who wouldn't know where to start. That would be Neil the Grass Tyson when it came to what David Grush is bringing to the table. I'd love to see that debate.

it'll never happen. Tyson will never bite. He knows that he'd be outpunched. But the other kind of cool thing that Jesse did in that piece, which I really encourage people to go watch on American Alchemy, is that he put together something that you've been talking about for a long time, George. You've been talking about the connection between the atomic program and the secrecy through the Department of Energy on the atomic program and how that spilled over to the secrecy about the UFO subject. And there's people that have been kind of in your life, George, who have been part of that. So you've told me about Sarbacher. We know about Oppenheimer, obviously.

But this is something Jesse really highlighted in his video, which is the fact that the DOE has kind of been at the helm of the UAP or UFO issue for quite some time, which I thought was interesting because a lot of people that haven't highlighted that you have, George, but a lot of other people haven't. No one goes to Hank's for spreadsheets. They go for a darn good pizza. Lately, though, the shop's been quiet. So Hank decides to bring back the $1 slice. He asks Copilot in Microsoft Excel to look at his sales and costs.

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So if you think that UFOs, UAP have a demonstrated interest in our atomic weaponry, that there would be UFO incidents, reports, you know, in key, encounters in connection with the nuclear testing program. My first inquiries to DOE long, long ago, said, nope, we've never seen any, have no records move along. A subsequent FOIA requests shows that there have been some encounters, that there is an interest on the part of DOE. And then you got Robert Hastings, who took out a much bigger step forward,

UFOs and nukes, his book and his documentary film, where he gets a lot of these nuclear, employees, people who worked for not only DOE but for the U.S. military, who were there during these tests, who saw these craft, who had these encounters, not only above the nuclear test, but atomic weapons storage areas, area two, which is here in Nevada, which had some really dramatic incursions, the northern tier cases where UFOs appeared over nuclear bases and in some cases disabled our weapons. We know that happened in Russia as well. I think there's a treasure trove of information within the Department of Energy and in the files of the old

AEC, assuming that some of those files still exist haven't been tossed down, that would be a bonanza of information about UFOs. Yeah, and this was a case I think that was really well illustrated by Jesse in the American Alchemy video with David Gresh, was he really kind of laid that out that the architecture for secrecy on the UFO or UAP issue could have originated in the Department of, and the Department of of energy with the atomic program, it was all there to begin with. And as we know, George, that seems to have been a point in influx of UAP or UFO contact upon the detaining of the atomic bombs or the age of the atomic era when that came into focus. So I think it's not only a

logical step, but I think it's something a lot of people have started to figure out, which is that this secrecy, this stove piping with information could follow that exact same. same path as the atomic program, but just get better, better at hiding it. I toss this out as a hint to UFO researchers who might listen to weaponize. Project Twinkle. Check out Project Twinkle. It was one of the earliest UFO-UAP studies carried out by the AEC because they kept having these green fireball type UFOs appearing over nuclear facility, Los Alamos, Sandia, places where the bombs are designed and built and where atomic material is stored, they kept having these incidents and didn't know what the hell these things were. So folks, if you want to do a little research

online, look for Project Twinkle. So now I think we should move into the treacherous world of fake alien mummies. What do you think? Should we talk about this? What happened in Mexico? I think so. Let me set the stage a little bit. There was a guy named Colonel Phil Corso years ago. We interviewed him before his name was known in UFO world, before his book on Roswell came out for the 50th anniversary. And he would always say to me and to a few others who knew him back then, look, there doesn't have to be a program to destroy the reputations of people in UFO world because the euphologists are always happy to do that for themselves. It doesn't necessarily have to be a government plot, men in black type thing. Uphologists are happy to destroy their own reputations and come forward with nebulous stuff of questionable veracity. I think that may be what we've got going on here.

I don't think it is a government plot that this information that came out in Mexico is something that the men in black organized. Uphologists are only too happy to do this to themselves. Yeah. So look, I'm just going to kind of speak openly about this because it's just such bullshit in my mind. And it's sad to me. What we're talking about is everybody's seen. So if you're not really into UFOs and you're listening to this, you're going to see all over even AP news,

these images of what looked like little mummies that look like ET. Somebody made this hilarious meme of somebody cutting one open and it's cake inside. But, you know, look, here's the deal. What the claim was we've got these ET bodies and we're displaying them at this, you know, hearing we're having in Mexico that is kind of supposed. to kind of work off of the U.S. hearings. Even Ryan Graves went down there to speak about, you know, what he's doing. Little, I think, did he know that they were going to bust out these, I call him alien

cakes, these fake little alien bodies. So I feel bad for him if, you know, he was kind of duped into that. But I'm sure what he did was he talked about what he's doing and what his work, which is really important in comparison. But what happened was a journalist in Mexico brings out these, what they call called corpses of aliens that were found in Peru. And the problem is, I think I first heard about this, like seven years ago. And it was like Guy M.TV or something.

And they were like trying to enroll everybody in these things. And it was so preposterous to begin with. Just if you look at the basic information. So unfortunately, theatrically, they opened these things and they show these, what I imagine are probably cakes. This is the world we live in. You know, UFO world, it comes with all kinds of characters who have their own agendas. I think it was great that Ryan was there to speak to these.

I guess I was originally told this was actually a Mexican Congress, official Mexican Congress hearing. But that is not the case, right? It's something more akin to that event in D.C. that you were involved in years ago. You know, like a mock congressional hearing, the 2013 one. Yeah, you know, honestly, I don't know. There's been a lot on my radar and the alien mum. hasn't been one of them, right? So I don't know.

Don't want to speak out of turn, but I'm sure whatever Ryan participated in, whatever he did, I'm sure it was great because he does it that way and talks about it. I think it's just, it's too bad that something like that

are these little mummy dolls gets put around the internet, and that becomes the focus when we've made a lot, like two steps forward, now we take half a step back with public understanding. But I think it's good.

It's educational. Because you know how many images I got, hey man, is this real? I'm like, don't bet on it. So I think it's good. It's like a learning process as UFOs becomes more pertinent to people, when it becomes more in the public eye, that people have a discerning element. There's a learning curve here. You have to be really careful of some of the stuff that people can fall for. And we've seen people, George, they've done good things at the beginning. They've started off well, you know, bringing hearings together or something. And then they just turn wacko. And so I think it's good for people to see that evolution so they can try to be

on guard if need be. Let's move on. We've talked about it. People get UFO disease. You know, they start producing content that can be credible and interesting. And then they feel a need to keep churning that out to feed the UFO machine and their standards get lowered. I mean, Jaime Misan has done some good work. I mean, he became a famous journalist in Mexico. I know the guy, but he's produced and presented a lot of material in the last couple of years that people have questioned. I have not investigated these Mexican mummies or the Peruvian mummies myself. I know people who have. They've raised some pretty serious questions about the legitimacy of it.

If these things are real, show it. Make it available for independent folks to take a look at it, and let's get a definitive answer about it. Yeah, look, it doesn't take a deep dive to realize there's a lot of problems. things going on with this. So anyway, I just wanted to kind of put that out to people is that, look, it's really good. No stone unturned, but once you turn a stone, you can let it go. So let's talk about something kind of more interesting to me right now. I know you had some ideas on this.

NASA, what happened? Tell us the basics of what happened there. We saw something happen with NASA the other week. So NASA had established several months ago this UFO panel, this study group. They appointed some really credible people based on Senator Nelson, former Senator Nelson, who's now the former astronaut who's now head of NASA. He made some really bold statements. He'd had some briefings when he was still in the Senate about UAP reality.

He made some very bold public statements, hey, we need to get to the bottom of this. I think there probably is life out there. It's a great mission for NASA to take this on. They established this group, this panel. and I was amazed that some of them would be willing to serve because they're overtly hostile to the topic. An example, Senator Kelly, another former astronaut, the senator from Arizona, overtly hostile to the topic. I don't think there's anything to it. I've never heard anybody at NASA ever talk about UFOs, which is preposterous.

I mean, there's a pretty big pile of information that indicates that is not the case. Maybe they didn't talk to him because he's hostile to it. But certainly NASA has a pretty rich legacy of cases and incidents and encounters and statements from former astronauts, but they have had these experiences. So for Senator Kelly to be openly hostile to it, why the hell serve on that panel? Same thing with some of the other members who have expressed similar sentiments. It felt like the statements that came out of NASA this week as they unveiled their UFO report. had taken a big step back from what they had indicated they wanted to do.

Now, they're moving forward with a formal study. The chairman of that panel, an astrophysicist, has made some statements that I felt were kind of patronizing. He said, well, look, it's worth studying this. I doubt that we're going to find anything. I doubt we're going to find anything. That's what you say going into this study is, I doubt we're going to find it.

And then he said, but we can sort of teach the public This is a teachable moment for the public. We can teach them how science works. We'll create this app where people can file their own UFO reports, and then we'll pat them on their tiny little heads and tell them why they're wrong, kind of an attitude. Why would you not be curious about it? If you think there is possibility of life out there,

how is that not consistent with NASA's overall mission? Wouldn't you just be damn curious about it? I don't get it. Yeah. And look, from the get-go, I've been pretty vocal about this. It is such just BS. This idea that, oh, they're not going to be looking at any classified materials. What are you looking at them?

You're just looking at stuff the public already has? I don't get it. They're literally, they've just been completely undercut from the beginning. They talk about they're going to have total transparency. It's not giving us anything new. If they have documents, data, images, videos that are not public yet, you know, deal with UAP, release those. We don't need your interpretation.

We need your equipment. We need that information to be out to the public. That's how I feel. What they can do is turn everything over to the public domain and let everybody crowdsource, let everybody get into the data. We have much smarter people than just the people up on that panel. I don't want to discourage people from studying UFOs, but come on. release documents, data, images, and video.

Don't just sit there and tell us you're going to interpret stuff for us and do reports. That's how I feel. It felt to me like statements from NASA's director were a major step back. It felt like maybe somebody pulled him aside and had a conversation with him because the whole tone and attitude changed so dramatically from public statements he's made before. Look, the fact is NASA has become an adjunct to the Department of Department of Dispillar. defense. They do missions for the Department of Defense that the public never gets to hear about. They work hand in hand with them. They take their UFO information from DOD, whatever DOD is willing to dribble out. And most of what they dribble out is not all that interesting.

I saw the spin that Washington Post did on the NASA press conference in which they say, well, look, obviously most UFO, overwhelming number of UFO cases are explainable. Well, duh. That's the starting point. 90 to 95% of the cases are explainable. We know that going in. The ones that are not explainable are where the study should be focused. You'll recall the UAP Task Force. They came out with their report a couple of years ago where they whittled it down.

They separated wheat from chaff. They got rid of all the cases that are balloons, that are drones that are explainable. They were left with 140 of 141 cases were not explainable. Why can't NASA take a look at those? and try to figure out what the hell those things are instead of dismissing it, patting us on our head, throwing us the public a bone saying, yeah, we'll let you participate in this, but we're, we're already positive that it's not going to amount to anything. It's a charade. As we've said before, the closer we get to the truth, the closer we get to the goodies, the more the pushback,

the stronger the pushback will become. We are now in pushback phase, I think. Yeah. And so I've got these two clips that I can play from that NASA thing. There were two journalists that really stood out to me with their questions, one of whom was our friend James Fox, who was there. I love it. He just pops up there and asks a question. So I've got two clips. The first clip, I think we should play as of James. He's asking kind of like the bigger questions. And look, I like the guy, Bill Nelson originally. I liked the way he seemed like a space cowboy, seemed like a guy that was going to be transparent. And he still kind of touts that. But it's very condescending the way he does it.

Let me show you what James, our friend James Fox, the filmmaker, what he asked at this, and here Bill's response, which is okay. But then we're going to get into his ignorance on David Grush after that. So here's the first clip. Two quick questions. One is how can we make the determination of what something isn't when we don't know what it is? and B, after a careful review of the data, if it's determined that some, underlying the word sum, 10 times, UFOs or UAP originate from a non-human intelligence, what's the plan to disclose that to the public?

Let me repeat what I said. I think it's important that you hear this word for word. The NASA Independent Study Team did not find any evidence. that UAP have an extraterrestrial origin, but we don't know what these UAP are. The mission of NASA is to find out the unknown. I've said several times in my comments here today that we NASA deal openly and we will be transparent on this. And we're trying to address the question of there's so much concern that there's something locked up, classified, and that the American government is not being open. Well, we are the American government, and we are open, and we're going to be open about this.

We don't, again, I'm going to repeat that statement, but we don't know what these UAPs. are but we're going to try to find out thank you very much and is there a plan in place if it is determined that some of them represent or originate from a non-human intelligence to tell the public is there a plan or if we are what I said we intend to be which is transparent you bet your boots we will say that and I've tried to set the table for you by telling you what I personally believe in a universe that is so vast that could there be a replication of life on Earth elsewhere in another solar system that is so big of course I believe that the

distances it would have to be a very advanced civilization the distances you know light years hundreds of light years billions of light years. But whatever we find, we're going to tell you. What did you think? I liked where he said, you bet your boots were going to tell you, as if, you know, he is the government and they are going to be transparent. I like that attitude. Yeah. And if NASA really is going to be transparent, it would be the first time in their history that they are because they have lied through their teeth for decades about this subject matter or ignored it altogether, or ignored public information requests.

Look, NASA, the best evidence about UAP is in the hands of the Department of Defense. Senator Nelson, Director Nelson mentioned about there's these stories about things that are locked up in special programs. All right, yeah, there's stories about it. There's pretty good testimony about it, too, from Dave Grush and other people. Is NASA going to get access to that information, to that material, to that evidence? Because the answer is, no, they're not going to get it. they're not getting access to the best information, I would be labbergasted if the DOD turns over this stuff to NASA. I saw that chairman David Spurgel, he's the chairman of this committee,

who came out with some statements. He said, he's the guy who said, you know, we really don't expect to find anything in this study. We're going to go ahead and go through the motions of it anyway. He says, we have a problem that people in our country believe in conspiracies. Well, it didn't just spring out of nowhere that people believe there's a conspiracy and a cover-up about UFOs. NASA is an example of why the public thinks this, the Department of Defense, which has always had the best evidence in their possession and don't share it with the public. That's why we have a belief in conspiracies. It's not something that just is created out of thin air. So I am encouraged that Director Nelson says, yeah, it could be evidence of civilizations out there somewhere.

But he relies on the same old canards that we have no evidence that it's ET, that any of these UFOs are ET, which is what the debunkers do. We don't know that they're extraterrestrial. And what would evidence of extraterrestrial origin? What would that evidence look like? So putting it in that category, you have no evidence of ETs, really doesn't address the problem. And James was really smart in how he rephrased the follow-up question. What about evidence of non-human intelligence? not limiting it to E.T.

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when Bill Nelson's talking about distances, it would be light years away. They'd have to be super advanced. It's as if he has not been tuned in to what our own Department of Defense believes UAP, that they are literally using gravitational engines in order to warp space and time where distance becomes irrelevant. That's what Bob Lazar told us. It was unbelievable to me this idea of they're still thinking about traditional propulsion when we know the UAP phenomenon somehow appears to dismiss this traditional propulsion for use of other types. So it was just kind of weird. The smirks on their face about distance when that has been absolutely redefined from what

we've learned over the last 10, 15 years about the UFO phenomenon, if not 30, seven years. The other thing that was kind of weird to me was, did you notice they were always complaining about kind of how they're being attacked for studying UFOs? Well, welcome to the club. Welcome to the club. You know, NASA. I'm glad that you're, you finally thrown down a little bit and you're getting a little pushback. People are pissed because of the secrecy. Because of the secrecy surrounding UFOs, people see them with their own eyes. This is something that is so common that they're sick of being lied to. So they named, they wouldn't name their director. During that They resisted.

They wouldn't name their director. Is it because of stigma? They won't name their director during the conference. Their whole point was trying to reduce stigma because they're experiencing some of it. So get out with it. Come forward with it. And they didn't. They didn't during that.

Then they amended the press release and they named who their director was because of public pressure. So all of a sudden they named Mark McLaren-McClern-Lie, or I don't know how to say his last name. tongue twister, Mark McLareny. So this is the guy, by the way, who is formerly the liaison for the Department of Defense and NASA. How does that bode for transparency when it comes to NASA telling us about UFOs? Oh, they'll be perfectly transparent. We just heard Director Nelson say they'll be transparent. And we know if this guy has worked with the Department of Defense, they're always transparent on this topic, right?

It doesn't give you a lot of confidence if they don't want to release the guy. name, that sort of flies in the face of promising to be transparent right off the bat. And he's, they're not going to release the name because he's worried about maybe getting hassled by UFO people who are angry. Yeah, well, welcome to our world, you know. Welcome to UFO world. Look, George, you know, and I think people have figured it out that I'm both a patriot, but also a pirate. I'm a hybrid. And I'm leaning towards being a pirate right now when it comes to UFO disclosure. So with that said, there was another great question from another, journalist. I want to play that clip real quickly. What this showed me, sadly, was that the head of

NASA, Bill Nelson, was so uneducated about David Grush and what he said under oath to Congress, that it was a twilight zone moment for me and the patience of this journalist trying to inform Bill Nelson, the director of NASA, about what David Grush said. I just want you to hear this for yourself, it's a minute and 43 seconds. Just hear what this journalist said. This is amazing. You said at the beginning of the meeting that NASA will be transparent. Well, a month and a half ago, Mr. David Grush said under oath in Congress that the U.S.

government is in possession of UAPs and extraterrestrial life. How can you be sure at NASA that other parts of the U.S. government is being transparent? I don't speak for other parts of the government, but I can tell you NASA, which I speak for, is open and transparent with our data. Do you believe what Mr. David Gross said, or is he lying? You would want me to give a personal opinion of what he said, what he said, if I recall, having seen this on the nightly news, was that he had a friend, that knew where a warehouse was that had an UFO locked up in a warehouse. He also said he had another friend that said that he had parts of an alien. Whatever he said, where's the evidence?

Is my response. Excuse me. He also said that he did interview over 40 employees. at the Pentagon? A long time ago there was a TV show. Jack Friday, and he used to say, just the facts, just the facts. Show me the evidence.

Thank you, sir. Bill Nelson's takeaway of David Grush, breaking from the fold, a career intelligence officer who is exactly who he said he was, who uncovered misappropriation of, funds, storage locations for alien spacecraft, or not using the word alien, but non-human intelligence, spacecraft. Biologics or Biologicals. Bill Nelson's takeaway from watching the nightly news was, there's some guy who had a friend that knew where a UFO was locked up in a warehouse,

and he had another friend who had parts of an alien, but where's the evidence? That's what he just said. That's what Bill Nelson said. That was his takeaway of watching or trying to absorb what Dave Grush brought to the American public. What do you think of that, George? Astonishing ignorance of what really has happened, what's unfolded with the Dave Grush story. I blame NASA staff. I mean, Bill Nelson is a busy guy. He runs a huge organization.

Maybe he can't sit down and watch two hours of Dave Grush's interviews or something like that. But somebody should have prepared him for a question that. was obviously going to be asked at this event. He should have been up to speed on what Dave Grushin actually said, and the fact that it's a friend of his says this stuff, as opposed to he was assigned by the UAP Task Force and his bosses at NGA to investigate special access programs and find this evidence and did and presented it to the inspector general

who had confirmed that this is a legit info and it's of an urgent matter and is now digging into it further. Oh my gosh, Bill Nelson doesn't know any of that stuff. I thought it was incredibly patronizing. I thought it was incredibly ignorant to make those statements to the world media and not know what you're talking about. So Bill Nelson, this message is for you. You bet your boots we want transparency,

but you can also bet your boots that we are ready to inform you about the things that have been going on. You say there was a TV show. you know, where's the evidence, whatever you just said. You got to understand what David Grush did. He came in front of Congress under oath after interviewing more than 40 people, many of whom were firsthand direct witnesses to the exploitation projects of machines, of craft of unknown origin, suspected to be from non-human intelligence,

and that he also knows literally where the bodies are buried. So that's the issue. He came forward. He said, I'm willing to give this to you the legal way. So I don't get in trouble. And I said a good precedent. Provide the opportunity for me to tell you all this. He says, I already told the inspector general of the intelligence community. This has all been put in there. But he wants to tell more. So Bill Nelson, it's really important that as you look into this UFO thing, that you're aware of people like David Gresh and what he's done. That's my message to Bill Nelson. And how about this for a message? Okay, show me the evidence. The next statement I'd like to hear from Bill Nelson and from NASA is Monday morning, they send an email, a letter, a request over to the Department of Defense or the Inspector General and ask for that information. Show us the evidence.

And then if they don't get it, they can make a statement to that effect. But if they don't ask for it, how did they expect it to ever get in front of their faces? You know, ask for it. Let's see what happens. Yeah. And so today I want to kind of move to the crux of what I want to be talking about today, which is the pertinent information over the next seven to 14 days that the public really should participate in as it's the closest we've ever gotten to the shifts in the bodies. And that's the new legislation. But before we talk about that, I do want to give people a little bit of hope. You know, the pit bull of UFO transparency has been Tim Burchett, Representative Tim Burchett,

and a number of his constituents on both sides of the aisle. And I want to encourage them to keep doing their work. You know, Tim and I will talk every once in a while. He's doing his best to navigate this UFO world. He is committed to having more UAP hearings. There is still an action to get like a church-style committee that will deal with this. the UFO or UAP secrecy within the intelligence communities, people should not put that down. They should keep supporting people who are trying to get this information like Tim Burchett is.

Now, he did write a letter to the ICIG. Tim did with a bunch of his constituents. And they were basically saying, hey, we want all the information based on what David Grush told us on where the craft are at, where these holding facilities are. And there was a response from the ICIG, the intelligence community inspector, General. And I'll read just the last part of it. I found it really interesting, especially because you and I know Chuck McCullough. And Chuck McCullough, in 2011, he became the first intelligence community inspector general in history. And he had a lot of power during that. And this is a guy that backs David Grush.

I suspect because Chuck McCullough has direct information and knowledge that what David Grush has discovered and brought forward is true. Now, I'm saying I suspect that. I'm not saying, saying, I know that to be true, but I suspect that. So with that said, this response from the ICIG where somebody like Chuck McCullough would probably just give one sentence, like, you know, come talk to me and I'll let you know what I know. They had this long, multiple page response. And this one kind of sentence really stuck out to me starts off like this. As a matter of discretion, ICIG notes that it is not conducted an audit. inspection, evaluation, or review of alleged UAP programs within the responsibility and authority

of the DNI, Department of National Intelligence, that would enable the office to provide a fulsome response to your questions. Now, I've talked to a lot of people about this, about this part of the response. And it's really interesting. It starts off as, as a matter of discretion, it's, you know, but saying, look, there are certain things that we can tell you, but with discretion, certain things we can't tell you. There is one word that they left out. They said, you know, an audit, inspection, evaluation, or review. But they left out the word investigation.

They left out the word investigate. And I know that within their mandate that is so important, that one word, I know that they have investigated. I know they can't even directly offer up David Grush as a whistleblower by. name because out of their protections for whistleblowers, they're not supposed to out them, even if they've outed themselves. They are so limited with what they can produce in this kind of letter that they gave back to Representative Burchett and his constituents or his, the other congresspeople, that it's like, I read between the lines on that. I know they've done an investigation.

I have direct knowledge of that. You have direct knowledge of that. So we're really stuck between a rock in a hard place here. Like, what are the right questions to ask? I'm really hoping that David Gresh's ICIG complaint, his whistleblower complaint, as well as the others, by the way, who have already inked theirs, that when those become, I guess you'd say adjudicated or once they become discovered and, you know, closed case, that that information can be public. Because David Gresh is telling you the truth.

And he's telling you where that he is investigated and knows where the craft and the bodies are. Yeah, maybe some bigger context. You know, Tim Burchett and some of his colleagues are serious. They want to get to the bottom of this. They want to force the disclosure of information that's been withheld from the public for 75 or more years. They're serious about it.

But as we have warned, the closer they get, you know, the public perception that we're close to disclosure, that is not the case. The closer you get to making real progress, the harder, the pushback will going to be. And that pushback is underway right now. The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is one of those sources of that pushback. He's trying to stop further hearings. He's already said there will be no more. He's trying to stop the creation of a select committee that would have subpoena power. He's trying to discourage his colleagues, and he's a powerful guy. He's trying to discourage his colleagues from supporting Burchett and Luna and the others who are trying to push this ball

down the field. And then reality sets in. Reality for Congress. The real risk in this UFO disclosure movement, if that's what you want to call it, is that other things take precedent. They always have. Right now, Congress just got back into session. But what they're dealing with. They're talking about shutting down the government. You know, members of the House and some in the Senate are saying they are not going to approve

the defense budget that has that Schumer legislation. They're not going to improve the overall budget. They're ready to shut down the entire government. They've launched what looks like an impeachment percentage. proceeding against the president, you can bet that those two items, among some other things, are way higher on the list that UFO transparency, that members of Congress are dealing with those as a matter of priority, far more of their time is going into that than in dealing with UFOs. That's just reality. And that's what has cut off UFO inquiries and investigations in the

past. And I think that it plays into the hands of those who don't want it to go further right now. So let me break this down for people in really simple terms because I'm not a politically active person. This is a lot of acronyms and it's hard for me to understand. But I've been trying to refine it so people could really take action if they felt they wanted to. I'll also play two clips. When you're talking about the person who's the head of the permanent select committee on intelligence, known as HIPSI, you're talking about Mike Turner. So let's get into him in a second.

but let me just tell people what's at stake. This is a reason why, even though there's been a lot going on in our lives the last couple of weeks, we had to jump in and do a weaponized episode. It's really for this one specific thing for me right now. And this is what was conveyed to me. I'm going to do my best to convey it to our audience, which is right now there's important legislation that's being what they call conferenced or negotiated. We're talking about right now for the next seven to 14 days.

It's language that some of our audience will be familiar with. Joe Rogan actually read some of this language just when we were on his podcast. It blew his mind and it blew my mind the first time I read it. It's like, show me the ships and show me the non-human intelligence bodies. That's what this legislation does is it's a shakedown on private industry and Department of Defense holdings of what David Gresh has come forward and said that we have UFOs, unidentified flying objects, of unknown origin, machines that are more advanced than ours. We have them.

We've been exploiting them. And there's even biologicals associated, pilots associated with these. So this is so important that this is the most our government can do is write this language in and try to pass it into two things. The Intelligence Authorization Act and the National Defense Authorization Act, both of these are going to be compiled and put together and then push to the president to sign. And if we get this language that is so powerful, if we get it pushed in and signed into law, it is the closest our government has ever come to helping us with disclosure.

And I know people that authored this. I know people that have fought for this, that has shepherded it, that have really fought tooth and nail. And so do you, George. We know these people. And they are trying to do this for the American will. But American will, people need to participate if they want to see this clear in the next seven to 14 days. So both the House armed services, what they call Hask, right, and the House permanent select committee on intelligence, HIPSI. They will be conferencing, or as I said, that means

negotiating on these bills, on this information, and that will impact the Pentagon and the intelligence resources. So the bottom line is that the dedication is being made right now, or sorry, the decision is being made right now on this UAP language by staffers who are not as educated on the UAP House side. And basically, from what I understand, HIPSI or the House Permanent Select Committee is pushing them to throw this legislation out. So specifically, when I'm talking about how come the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is trying to throw out this legislation? Well, it turns out that one of the main people blocking this is the chair of HIPP, And that's a guy named Mike Turner.

This is a guy out of Ohio who has direct ties to write Patterson Air Force base and is heavily funded by the aerospace industry. If you look at who funds this guy's campaign, does that name Mike Turner mean anything to you? Because I got a couple videos to play of him, George. Yeah, I mean, you know, he is the congressman. You can have under his name, you know, the font that you. R slash Wright Patterson. You might as well be the congressman for that Air Force base, which has been the center of the UFO controversy, the UFO mystery from the beginning. It's where multiple witnesses say the original Roswell stuff was taken. It's the home to this rumored hangar 18

where all kinds of really intriguing stuff was stashed. Barry Goldwater and Senator Howard Cannon tried to get in there and were told no, even though they were high ranking on intelligence and armed services committees. I mean, Wright Patterson is the heart of this. This is the congressman who represents it. And of course, because of all the defense contractors that have so much immense power on Capitol Hill, they are among his primary campaign contributors. It's like he works for the Department of Defense and for the intelligence community and for the defense contractor industry as opposed to working for the American public. He's the driving force. We're trying to stop this legislation, trying to stop the further hearings on it, and people need to let him hear about it and to let his colleagues hear

about it that they're not going to sit for it. That's right. I've got two minute-long clips. One, this first one, he's with another gentleman on the news. And I just want people to see his attitude about the UAP topic and transparency. This is what we're up against. So let me play this first clip right now of Representative Mike Turner. I have to ask this because it's in the news about unidentified aerial phenomena and the possibility that this whistleblower is accurate. We have spacecraft from another species. We do.

Yeah. How many? Quite a number. It's astonishing. These people are said to be well respected. Maybe I'll jump in quickly here and just say, we did have a hearing. In fact, we've had two hearings in the last couple of years. on this subject and I asked a question in the second hearing. I asked, do we, because of course,

you hear this notion that's been out there forever that the United States government is hiding material, that we're hiding aliens or whatever. I asked a very specific question, which is do we have any sort of matter, organic or inorganic or whatever, that we can't explain as to its source? Now, this was a year, maybe a year and a half ago, and the answer was an unequivocal no. Mr. Chairman, obviously, the part of the story is that they've held it from Congress, from the administration. I mean, it's pretty astonishing. true, anything to weigh in on? But, Brett, this has been a story since the 1960s, really, every decade.

There's been individuals who've said that the United States has such pieces of, you know, undenified flying objects that are from outer space. There's no evidence of this. And certainly, it would be quite a conspiracy for this to be how to be maintained, especially at this level. All new drinks are now at McDonald's, with refreshers. like the strawberry watermelon refresher and the mango pineapple

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hearing. And they said, no. There it is. Case closed, I guess. They couldn't possibly be lying to him, right? Right. And this is a guy who's highly funded by the defense industry. And so, you know, you already know this guy's got a dog in the fight. You know, they sit, from what I understand, he sees, he wants to crush all of this, all of this. So all this legislation, you know, really, that's why I'm telling people, you got to contact people from Hipsy and reach out to Mike Turner by telephone because this is the guy that's like blocking a lot of this.

Now, I got another clip, one more clip of him, just so you can see a little bit more. He kind of goes into his belief system on the UAP. issue. It's a minute clip. Check this out. You know, Maria, I always love it when you have somebody who comes forward and testifies about things that they don't know anything about. I mean, the most striking aspect of all of the testimony was repeatedly over and over again. The whistleblowers had to say, actually, I don't have any knowledge of this. Somebody else told me that. I mean, really, this would take thousands and thousands of people for such an unbelievable cover-up to be occurring. And for people to speak.

with such confidence over something that they do not know is I think something certainly everybody needs to be concerned about. So aliens are not on Earth, then? Maria, there's, I certainly can't tell you that there are no aliens here. I can tell you that certainly there's no evidence that what the gentleman is testifying about he has he said himself personally, he has no direct knowledge of. So what's a bigger threat? Aliens on Earth or China and it's, it's, it's, it's,

its efforts to surveil America. China, but, you know, this administration kind of acts like that this... He's talking about the whistleblowers that came forward, and specifically targeting David Grush, claiming David Grush does not know anything that he's talking about. It's the most preposterous thing in the world that this guy can get up there and just make these proclamations, nothing to see here, move on, this guy that put his life and his career to the side to come forward to the American public, uh, because of reprisal, by the way, doesn't know what he's talking about.

It's just that's what we're up against. That's what people need to understand. Yeah, I think actually that last comment that you were referencing is relevant because the journalist was happy to move on and ask something else that diverts attention from the central question. Hey, isn't China more of a threat than aliens? Well, you know, is that really the heart of this mystery? Of course, China is here. We're dealing with it as an aggressor nation, as a,

as an opponent in many respects. We're not at war with China, but there are scenarios where we could end up in conflict with them. Aliens, whatever they are, wherever they're from, they're not exactly attacking us. So yeah, China could be viewed as a more immediate threat. But the bigger question is, are we alone? Is there some other intelligence here? This guy has never seen any evidence. I don't think he wants to see any evidence. He certainly doesn't want the rest of us to see any evidence, because he'd like this inquiry to go away altogether. That's right. So I think to kind of target in for people,

I've identified some websites that people can go to to take action from how I understand it. So Mike Turner is the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence or HIPSI. And then a guy named Mike Rogers is the chairman of the House Armed Services or Hask. So those are the acronyms. And those two chairs will make a big difference right now within the next seven to 14 days. So what I'm told is that they don't think anybody is looking right now. They don't think that people are super interested in this topic. And that over these next week or two weeks, if people don't weigh in, which is a process that actually works, I'm told,

is when members get flooded with phone calls and emails and phone calls, if they get thousands of people blowing up their phones, then they're going to have to bend to the will of their constituents or the people that they represent. So again, this is not my arena and I'm trying to be really clear about that. I've tried to convey the information to me from those on the inside who are like, hey, let's rattle some cages. You got about a week to do so. I've identified four groups online that I think are doing excellent work. And they're all kind of four different and people should go look at it.

So I'm going to list those four right now. and we'll put it in the description of the show notes so people can just like click on them. One is called uap caucus.com. The other is called witnesscitizen.com. And then there's disclosure diaries.com. And that one is pretty cool because like even I can understand it.

It's like as if it's made so your mom could read it. It's pretty cool. And then I also saw declassify uap.org. So again, uapcaucas.com, witnesscitizen.com, witnesscitizen.com, disclosurediaries.com, and declassifyuap.org. Those are four that I know of that are doing good work. We can go to those websites. You can click call and you can call the person you're supposed to be calling. You can click write an email. If you take the next seven to 14 days, everybody that's listening to Weaponize and just make one single phone call, you could completely alter the course of this legislation being killed by the likes of Mike Turner. and you can help this information get forward so we can discover, look, the saucers and the bodies. That's what I want. I want them to rip them out from these exploitation programs, and I want them to show them to the American public and be honest.

And this is one shot we got. This is one shot we got. It's the best punch our government can throw for us, and it is immaculate. It is immaculate. It just needs some fuel in the engine, is what I understand. Yeah, you could actually go to all four of them and call from. those, you know, call them multiple times. That does make a difference. Congress does listen to that kind of pressure from the public. It's worth a try. This is the best shot that the public has had for a

long time to get to the bottom of this stuff. I am, as you know, pessimistic in general that the keepers of the secrets in my estimation will never give this stuff up unless they are dragged, kicking and screaming by the public, by media, by Congress into the light. That's the only. That's the only way to make it happen. They don't want to give this stuff up. There's a whole bunch of reasons for it. And I don't think any of them are really all that legitimate, but they don't want to give it up. And you got to get in the game and take the best shot, which is this legislation, the best shot maybe we've ever had, maybe that we will ever have. So it's time to get involved with this because the public can make a difference if their voice is loud enough. Yeah, I don't like using the word disclosure,

but it's been said to me, this is our greatest shot at disclosure right now that we have ever had and that if it doesn't pass, that we will have until another generation kind of of government comes into place. So, yeah, again, I will be making calls. I'm going to pester people, you know, hopefully ask them if they know anything about the ZFO thing because it's important to me. But again, this is one thing that can happen. I am a patriot, but I'm also a pirate, George. So come hell or high water, the easy way, which is this way, or the hard way. We're going to make progress when it comes to transparency about the UFO phenomenon. I think you and I are going to do our best to make sure of that. Final note for today, I want to ask you something. I know you

hate it when you're honored for something, but I heard a little bird told me that the other day you got to go speak with a whole bunch of young journalists. So please just be honest to me. What was the award? Why were you there? And what did you have to talk about with young journalists? Because UFO journalism, man, it takes a toll on us. Can you tell us a little bit about what you did the other day? I got to speak to the Nevada Broadcasters Association. It's a great organization here in Nevada that it has an annual gala event where they raise money to fund scholarships for journalism students. And there were dozens of young, would-be journalists who were there who were given full rides because of the of the money that was raised at this event. It was really a cool thing. I did get to speak, and there were some messages I wanted to convey to these young journalists about what lies

ahead for them. Right now, our profession is under attack. I didn't get to say all this stuff, but so I'm using this platform and trying to do it. Our profession is under attack, and there's some legitimate reasons for it. People don't believe journalists anymore. A lot of that is because of cable news that's blown up in recent years and has not only blurred the line between fact and opinion, it's obliterated that line. People look at these talk shows and talking heads and opinion makers and think that they are journalists, that they are reporting the news, when in fact they are reporting opinions. And the whole journalism profession has been damaged as a result. People don't, they divide into camps,

They only want to hear newscasts or opinion casts that agree with their opinions. They turn off or attack anybody that gives them information that is contrary to their opinions. And it has to stop. If there is one bastion of journalism that still exists that doesn't fall into that category, in my opinion, it's local news. Local newscasters are trusted by their audience. As you and I have said many times, Jeremy, the trick to being trusted is to actually be trustworthy. You know, to not mislead your audience, to be factual, to tell them when you don't know something, to try to document the stories that you're investigating.

And I think local news is trusted more than any other media because it still does that. So I'm trying to tell these local, these young journalists who are embarking on a career that there are risks with that. There is a price to pay because, as you know, I mean, from your years now working and making film, making films and the work that we have done together, there is a significant price to pay, sacrifices from the time that we have to devote to this stuff. I mean, the hours are long. If you're going to do it right, you have to jump in with both feet.

The hours are ridiculously long. So you're a journalist. You're going to be gone from your family, from your loved ones. You're going to miss a lot of days, a lot of nights, a lot of weekends, holidays, birthdays, anniversaries, all that kind of stuff that takes a toll on your life. And I know that it has affected hours as well. My wife was there at this event last night. I don't like to reveal personal stuff. I try to avoid that because I, although I'm in a public position, I try to maintain a private life. And she was there, Anna, the Viking. You know her really well, Jeremy.

The Viking was there. And without her, I would never have been able to do this. stuff that I have done. She supported me 30 years now. Now, if you see a picture of her, maybe we'll put one into this podcast. If you see a picture of her, and I say that we have been together 30 years this month, you'll swear that I must have been dating her, which she was nine years old. And that is not the case. But her support has meant everything to me, as I'm sure your wife, the Yeti, has supported you. Yeah. And Anna is a beautiful and powerful woman and I know she has supported you and I've seen that and you know I know it can be hard, you know, the hours and all of that type of work. You know, we wouldn't be anything without the

support of our loved ones and our family. So it's really cool. When you have journalists who have great relationships, we are supported, man, they've got to have a lot of courage and patience, especially with you, George. But journalism is an honorable profession. I mean, many of us who got into it, it's a Dudley-Dewright kind of thing. You want to be in there and do good things and help people and expose corruption and expose things that are trying to be covered up. That's why we go into the business. It is an honorer profession.

It is an essential profession. So I wanted to share with those young journalists, hey, look, you should know what you're getting into because it does take a toll on you after a long period of time. Right. And I think also just for a lot of people that might. not feel empowered yet, like citizen journalism, like, you know, people that listen to this show or doing, you know, all these political action groups I listed for this episode, they're doing hard work. They're making sacrifices to get the word out and do the same thing. So I think

anytime you're passionate trying to fight for something to expose truth on something, you know, it's going to be a commitment if you do it right. So I'd encourage anybody who's being involved in the journalism, whether it be just on social media, which is a powerful form for journalists now, all the way up to being on camera. Just, you know, keep up the good fight. You know, keep the marbles in your head, even if you keep your ears open. And yeah, man, just try to find a good balance with life, you know.

All right. Well, that's it for Weaponized. We'll be back next week. We'll be back. Next week, baby. Never has so few, has so much to tell, but could say so little.

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