WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - PART 1 : Immaculate Constellation : UFO Whistleblower Goes Public - Matthew Brown

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

In 2024, an enigmatic term began to percolate among a small group of UAP investigators. The name was "Immaculate Constellation." Anyone who dared to even utter that term would put their own lives at risk, according to persons familiar with the program. "ImCon”, the abbreviated version of the term, was brought to the attention of Congress. Members were told it was a cover term for an Unacknowledged Special Access Program housed within the executive branch, specifically under the control of the White House. ImCon was supposedly a highly secretive program that relied on artificial intelligence to secretly scour classified servers used by the U.S. military and its intelligence agencies to search for and snatch images of UAP encounters. A report about ImCon, written by an unknown policy advisor, was provided to Congress by Jeremy Corbell months prior to the start of a 2024 public hearing before a House subcommittee. The anonymous author of the report, who had been surreptitiously introduced to key House members by Corbell, had indicated he was willing to testify if requested to do so. A very curious series of events unfolded at the hearing, but in the end, the source of the Immaculate Constellation report was largely ignored, and the origin of the report itself was grossly distorted by members. A spokesperson for the Pentagon denied that any program by that name had ever existed within the Department of Defense. After many months of excruciating discussion and debate, the author of the ImCon report is now ready to reveal what he knows, how he knows it, and who he is. In this episode of WEAPONIZED (Part 1 of 3), Jeremy and George speak face-to-face with the previously anonymous source of the ImCon report. The person who wrote the report explains where he worked and in what capacities, how he was first exposed to the term Immaculate Constellation, and why he made the decision to come forward, in spite of what could be very serious repercussions. WATCH PART 1 HERE : ⁠https://youtu.be/ZAxI-LDrDqA⁠ WATCH PART 2 HERE : ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/4n_bRtnIP14⁠⁠ WATCH PART 3 HERE : ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/PtBVAxoHeaY⁠⁠ GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠[e-mail]⁠ ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠https://www.netflix.com/title/81674441⁠ ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Immaculate Constellation, it's a UAP reconnaissance program. I can affirm this 100%. What is in here is wild. I mean, they're saying, I'm paraphrasing, but reports have. F-22 is getting like boxed in by flying orbs that they couldn't shake. There were satellite images or satellite image of a football field-sized flying saucer, hiding in clouds. I have personally walked people into members' offices for private meetings so they could see eye-to-eye and they could meet. You are the author of what the world knows as The Immaculate Constellation Report.

It has been allowed to corrupt and infest every aspect of her. society to serve the interests and whims of a very elite, select few. The following is an interview with the author of the Immaculate Constellation Report that was submitted into Congressional Record. Is it ironic? You have to put your face out with us to protect yourself at this point. That's what we're doing, right? Yeah.

That's what we're doing. This is absolutely what I did not want to do. You've worked in secret programs. You've got clearances. You've made oaths that you would keep secrets. Let's talk about secrecy and the UAP topic. Shouldn't it be secret to some degree? I mean, we have, there's a race for the technology to try to understand it.

We have adversary nations who'd love to get it ahead of us. Why not keep this stuff secret? Well, if it was just technology that we are worried about protecting and maintaining a military advantage, you know, there's strong arguments to be made and have successfully been made for decades in this country that the American leadership and American people seem to be finding acceptable to be left in the dark about where science, technology, and their military is taking them. This isn't just technology. This isn't something somebody came up

with in a lab and it's sensitive because once the cats have the bag, anybody can do it. Fundamentally, this comes from, and is secondary to what we've been told is the biggest question, which is, is humanity alone? The answer is no. And the secrecy that has been defended is at the cost of, in my mind, human dignity, freedom, and progress. And it is no longer permissible or acceptable in my mind to continue this course, to deprive another generation of not just Americans, but humanity, or their birthright to know who they are, where they are, where they are.

came from and what's with us. Can you give us a general description of the size of the secrecy apparatus? You know, we're going to drill down to this, of course, about in-com, in one particular facet of the secrecy that you came across and other parts of it. But how big of the secrecy apparatus is it? How many stove pipes are there? How many people are involved in different ways of keeping this secret, confusing the public, lying to Congress, lying to the world?

simply put as it's a parallel reality. The secrecy apparatus is all pervasive. It is not just in the intelligence community governing their world. It's not just in the military protecting their operations. It's not protecting diplomats and leaders as they conduct their work, sometimes in very dangerous places. It has been allowed

to corrupt and infest every aspect of our society to serve the interests and whims of a very elite, select few. And it's been used to intimidate, threaten, destroy the lives of people like yourselves who have been doing their job, keeping their oaths, trying to protect their country, being true to humanity, and have paid praises for it. Absolutely. This has been a difficult process for you, for me and you, you know, kind of going through this. I've seen what you've gone through personally with this.

You're taking a personal hit, like a painful risk, just talking to us, just doing this finally after all this time. I think I understand why. You're explaining something philosophical, what you believe about the secrecy, just personally. Like, what is this step for you to do this? Like, why? I need to understand why. Why are you telling this to everybody now? now there's no short answer it's something you know I have many not even competing but parallel

motivations but why now look out at the world look inside our country we are not headed to a good future you're concerned I am explain the concern Ultimately, my biggest fear is what humanity will do to itself out of fear and greed and what we have done. And we have built a prison around ourselves. It's invisible, but it's not complete, and there is still time to maybe alter our trajectory, have a different future. It may not be the best one that we had hoped. for, but it's going to be damside better than what they have planned for us. You know there's no going back after you tell us this on camera.

We had this conversation. This is it. This is the line in the sand. You're about to cross over here. Absolutely. I am on a personal level, giving up the future that I made for myself and was going to try to make for a family. I'm proud of what I accomplished in my time in government and it's painful to

leave the good people there and to know that there really isn't room for people to act according to their conscience and our constitutional ideals on the inside. Is it your belief based on materials, things that you've been exposed to, that you've seen, people you've talked to and communicated with over a period of a couple of years, is you're believed that the technology, the race for the technology, the understanding of the big secret is entirely in the hands of people outside the government and not for the benefit of the public or to protect American national security. It's in some other realm in some other hands. I think it's a mix. I think our military, you know, has a long historic involvement in this.

So does our intelligence community and our scientific academic community, we have as a country allowed ourselves to be penetrated, co-opted, and current. by an internationalist force that serves their interests and views nations, peoples, as tools and means to an end. Like a business cabal, international corporations that have no loyalty to any nation, let alone this one. I think that's a large part of it. I think we have to go above that too to start to explain the level of deception and the level of commitment. they've had to maintaining that deception. It's above just monetary gain and power. They're afraid.

George and I've talked about whistleblowers that come to us and we protect them. We don't often report on when people come to us. We're doing this now. You know, what are the repercussions? People talk about whistleblowers being afraid. And there's one set of being afraid, which is when you're squeezed by outside entities,

you know, that are fucking with you, which has happened to you. We'll talk about that. But what are the legal implications of what you're about to talk to us today? Tell me the gravity right now. What are you facing? I want our audience to understand what it means for you to talk to us right now. What could happen to you?

My hope is that the stakes are not paid out, but they are life imprisonment and the possibility of execution. And you've tried all the right ways. I've helped you on some of it. We've tried. You have tried all the right ways to do this, but you have something much bigger that is pushing on you, that you have to take this next step forward. And so now, I just want people to understand where you're coming from. We say we protect whistleblowers. People come to us.

Not everybody goes on camera, but also just you work currently in departmentist state, but maybe he should tell us his history. Yeah, let's do chronological. So you got a degree in what? So I got a degree in international affairs. Came out to D.C., started working in a small think tank. From there, I applied to and was accepted to a intelligence agency. Ended up taking a job at the Pentagon, basically waiting for the right opportunity for that world to pop up.

Which one it did? I was having too much fun. So I said no. You're in the Pentagon. Weapons of mass destruction is a general umbrella under which you're working. You got a security clearance at that point? Yeah, I had been cleared via DIA for a top secret SCI clearance. You get to see, I guess, firsthand, all this different information that comes in from all over these places, different platforms, right?

You're exposed to that. And you get an idea of just how big that apparatus is. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Um, UFOs and aliens aside, it's a, it's a different world without anything exotic in it when you are exposed to that information and learning over time, not just from the intelligence, but the experiences of the people around you because, uh, not everything that's true and has happened in the world is written down on paper. I mean, you've given a lot of roles and responsibilities that gives you access to very sensitive information. When you said SCI, that's secret compartmentalized information is the acronym. Sensitive.

compartmentalized information. I always... Yeah, it's probably right. Yeah. So you'd know that me, but I'm just saying, you know, you are a sane human being.

You're given a lot of these responsibilities. You know, I just think it's important for people to understand. So you have access to very critical information through the United States government. They're separate from the UFOs and the alien topic that we're going to talk about. For the world.

For the world. For the world. The world. And that weighs heavy on you, I'm sure. Like you're really, looking to defend the United States of America where you live and you are looking at information that is just highly sensitive. I think it's important for people to know good people like you doing great jobs and there. You had access and responsibilities. People trust you. That's you can't

get there without that. It is um yeah it's a very uh burdensome uh rule I feel deeply for the people who have been there for many years. There's a lot of hidden suffering that comes from it, but it is a, you know, I thought it was a noble and good mission. I still do. And risks, I imagine there's all kinds of information that comes across your desk and that desk of other people you're working with at that point about weapons of mass destruction,

the movement of nuclear weapons or suddenly material that disappears and where did he go, black market, biological weapons research, things that are going on. around the world that we need to keep an eye on, right? And things that never make the news. You're absolutely right, yeah. There is, like I said, there is a whole, many, there's many worlds.

There's many shells to our reality that the public, including our professional media class, our professional academic class, our political class has absolutely no idea exists. And if they do have an idea, they have a very distorted one, sometimes intentionally. so. I mean, you're not like some secret agent. You're not like some CIA secret agent. So like, so people understand when you're working at the Pentagon is where we're out in the thing. I mean, we have a lot of great people that are bright-minded working on these problems for the United States keeping the United States safe, looking at geopolitical aspects of nuclear weaponry, that kind of thing. But just to be clear, I mean, you're not some secret agent with more access than anybody else or

anything like that. No, I never wanted to be a few people. field officer. I danced with the idea in my dreams maybe and read the books, but I knew that wasn't for me, especially the task and the cost of befriending and manipulating and ultimately using people. I don't think I would have been very good at that. Like human, human intelligence and false friendship. Exactly. Does that stuff come across your desk? Human intelligence, signals intelligence regarding weapons of mass. All sources.

All sources, intelligent. All sources of intelligence. And if there are questions, go ask them and usually get the answers. And the kinds of things that you see that come across your desk, does it give you pause? How am I going to sleep that I know in that this XYZ is going on somewhere? At times when they think, oh, we do crap, how did this happen? Everyone has their different standard of what's going to shake them like that. I've definitely had a few of those.

I won't share them, but. Yeah, but I mean, just with security, pretty national security kind of stuff. Right. Stuff unrelated to exotic things that are very... You're just world out there. Okay, you're there for a while. You do that for how many years?

Oh, see, I was in there a little over four years, but I was in the Pentagon a little over five, because I moved out of there briefly into the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and a smaller office in there. We've heard of that office. We have heard of that office. What was it a different sort of work or the same thing just for a different boss?

Same field, different work, different boss, different community. So you're working for a contractor, but you're working at the Pentagon on Pentagon business. And that's sort of a model that is used for all kinds of programs, right? Yeah. That's the industry in D.C. Is that to have a buffer of some sort? Why is it, why is that necessary?

Well, you have government management. And they're supposed to be the ones that, you know, they sign the checks, make the final decisions. But most of the staff is contractors, military people on detail, people on fellowships from, you know, either think tanks or universities. So you get to be familiar with snow pipes and how, you know, you could be working on this and the guy may be in the office next to you or the desk next to you is working on something else. And you don't know what they're working on. Yeah, I mean, it can be that way. My experience was more that we had a team. It was all more or less on the same information level,

but then there'd be other teams that, yeah, they have their own. So it's not quite as isolated. I've heard from others. It can be just, you know, it's you and no one else around you knows what you're doing. You got a company. It's a contractor that's working there in the Pentagon. How much oversight is there from the actual Pentagon, the military, of a contractor's work? Well, I mean, the day-to-day is overseen by the government.

So in that sense, it's there. And is that generally true for all the contractor programs that we'll be getting into later? Somebody in the military, or I see, is looking at what that contractor does? No, I couldn't say. Right. Yeah, I could not say. We got the one degree. And then you went on to try to get a master's.

Yeah, I went to George Washington University Masters of Security Policy Study. got to the point where I had a thesis to submit, and then I started working at the Pentagon, took a break, and kind of got caught up in the churn, as the term is. Right. I'm curious about just what it's like to work at the Pentagon. I mean, to think, you're driving to work, there it is, the heart and soul of the national security of our country. You're doing important work, weapons of mass destruction in the biggest office building in the world. I would think it would be a lot of satisfaction in that. But I wonder what day to day is like. Are you under surveillance?

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It's cheesy, but I felt pride pretty much every single day that I, rolled in there. That's not cheesy. And it was, I was very fortunate to join an office that cared a lot about their people, not just their performance at work, but their goals, their desires, and how they were getting on with life

in general. Fewer places are like that. But I look back on that time with a lot of happiness. How do things begin to sour? Is it because of this topic that we're going to discuss? Yes. Let's take it from there.

When does that start? What's your first exposure? I mean, were you like a UFO guy? Like before, I mean, like, there's something that happened. And there's always an instigator, right? But it's like, you know, were you like a UFO guy all your years back? To some degree, I've always been interested in aliens and UFOs, secret histories, the things that are hidden from us.

It's been a lifelong. kind of passion. It's not always aliens. You know, while I was always interested in these things, they were never they were only a realm of possible. And when I looked at UFOs in a serious way, as I was

more in my college years, I got just not exposure, but you started learning about the sort of ecosystem of secrecy in the military industrial complex, what saps are, what caps are.

And you start to realize, like, oh, yeah, there's a good chance a lot of what these UFO things are are some really cool stuff that we have, whether it's in the air, under the water, or right in front of you. You're not getting a job at the Pentagon because you want to get access to the UFO scene. No, no. When I joined, I thought, you know, I pretty much locked down that, you know, there might be life out there, but most, I think, most what we're seeing in the skies at that time, I thought was either ours or ally or adversary. You don't go over the deep end. You're not going to move on conferences. You're not wearing a beanie and alien stuff on your head. No. No.

In fact, you know, I would be looked at like I had a third eye just by suggesting there were stealth satellites. I mean, in fact, like you've never been to like a UFO conference or anything like that, have you? No. Right. That's not your style. No. You're a very analytically minded person.

It's something I've learned. I bet you're fucking really good at your job because just the way our communications, the way you deep dive into research, that's a talent. to be able to pull a lot, big source information, all source information, and kind of come to conclusions that you, that is one of your skill sets. Yeah, absolutely. Did you ever work nine to five? Because you're kind of a workaholic, right?

And you go over the top. Yeah, yeah. You know, I really liked the Pentagon. I learned an immense amount there, and I would stay there until the wee hours of the morning learning. Which is also how you found out information about the, the topic where I delved too deeply. And you came across this sort of accident?

100% accidentally. Well, sorry. The Immaculate Constellation piece of this 100% accidentally. Before I was exposed to that, you know, I had seen UAP on military videos in the Pentagon, but nothing that suggested, you know, origin, intent, or in the level of detail that, you know, I came to find later. You know, so explain that to the average with, like, how do you just come across UFO videos in the Pentagon? What does that mean?

Yeah. What tells somebody who has no idea how that happens? So, you have a clearance, and there's a secret internet. And on that secret internet, there's just a generic access like UNI. It's all very secret, sensitive stuff. but more or less, everyone can look at what's on there. Then, you know, you have on this secret internet, some compartmentation, light compartmentation, as it were.

And then there's entirely different systems for truly, truly sensitive stuff. But the point is, is that there is essentially, you know, a shared community of knowledge. And it goes back, you know, just like our own. internet, it goes back over decades. If you have a top secret clearance, you go on J-Wix, you can pretty much go and see whatever is on there, except for special compartmentalized stuff. Yeah, pretty much. Or things that, you know, are just people protect their business processes.

So who would be putting UFO type or UAP videos on there? How does that happen? How do they end up there? Service members and intelligence officers, who for one reason or another decided to put that footage there. What's the first UFO video to see? What did you think of it? Military film footage of a UFO.

What was that like? Well, technically, the first true military footage that I saw was that Tick-Tac video and the Go Fast video. And I think there is one other else, the Gimbal video that all came out in 2017. Granted, I didn't see those on military systems, but just being precise here. And so things that I saw after that kind of looked like all that, but just much more duration. The videos, you know, it's the internet, whether it's secret or not. There's compression, there's upload and file sizes.

So some things are crystal clear, but it's only 15 seconds. Some things you can see 45 minutes of something moving around, but it's kind of blurry because that's a lot of data. So you've seen crystal clear at times videos of what appear to be, would you say, non-human intelligence made craft? I mean, what do you see evidence that the rest of the world doesn't get to see? That starts happening. Yeah.

Nothing in those videos necessarily proves it's extraterrestrial or non-human. It certainly is anomalous, exotic, and unexplainable. And advanced. Yes. Beyond our capabilities that you know of. I don't know. Some of it might have been within our capabilities to replicate even in an inferior manner. But quite a lot of it is, you know, it's either something else or we live in a world where we have been left behind.

2017, these stories come out, New York Times and other media. The videos become known. That sparked your curiosity and you start looking around for that kind of stuff, or it would just come. across your desk and in front of your eyes naturally. Yeah, so not looking for that stuff. Did you have access to live feeds? Yes. So live feeds real time, you could go into like a Reaper drone

and see if there's something going on. Just, I mean, not that you're specifically looking for UFOs, but you had access even to live feeds. Yeah. You know, not anything special, no special access, but, you know, you know where those resources are. You can go look at them. And I did.

I want to go back to this. You said with these nuclear facilities, nuclear weapons, nuclear labs, nuclear power plants, that within a year or two, are you saying all of them get visited? Are there some strange phenomenon? I can't say that they all do, but I would suspect that anything that is sufficiently nuclear will draw attention at some point and they will be encountering this. And what are they? What do you see it? What kinds of things are you seeing? So, I mean, nothing too dramatic when it comes to, like, these facilities. A lot of times it's

borbs of, you know, it's hard to always judge the size, but I'd be surprised if it's bigger than a Cessna, probably something somewhere in between, whether it's white or silverish, or if you're looking through different sensor apparatus, it'll, you know, look like whatever hot or cold is. but usually orbs around these facilities. Sometimes things that look a bit more irregular, but the vast majority being orbs. I mean, the world's been exposed to some of this.

There's been a clarification to the general public about what are you seeing when you're seeing infrared or flare. It takes some translation. There are people that focus on that and they can read that. But basically, you're looking at things that don't have flight control surfaces, that don't have traditional propulsion. They seem to tag along, which we've heard forever,

with nuclear events and that kind of thing, nuclear structure. But you see a lot of these, you start getting exposed to them. I mean, just to begin, doesn't that start, or doesn't that start to kind of feed that curiosity in you? You just all of a sudden, the average person, but you're now seeing stuff that you can't. Yeah, you'd have to be a special kind of boring to not be interested after.

those states. It's shocking, especially knowing the context of what you're looking at. Right, which you get, and you have those systems that can look at that. 100%. What's the contest? Like, big picture, like, what's the context? Yeah, and in this way, are you seeing images?

Is there a discussion? There's their text that comes along with us, hey, we saw this thing. What the hell is it? It's not us. Surprisingly little of that. I think the community kind of knows or new. We don't talk about this. It's there.

You know, that changed some years ago, but it's since been, I think, shut down again in terms of, like, you know, community participation and solving the problem. So people within the intelligence community know you don't talk about this out loud. You don't say the quiet part out loud. You post stuff. You kind of get... Then you get an era of discussion when this starts coming forward, 2017, New York Times story. But then you're explaining. that there's been a kind of clampdown on that dialogue and discussion. I've heard that from a lot of people on the inside. You witnessed that too? Yes, absolutely, both firsthand and from, you know, hearing from friends and connections. The screws were tightened and certain agencies, you're not allowed to mention certain whistleblower's names or you'll be fired immediately. So there's no announcement on the PA system. There's no leaflets left in the cafeteria, no memo put out that says

don't talk about this stuff, but you know. Yeah, yeah. You pick up on that vibe real quick. When you say there's certain whistleblower's names you can't mention, this brings me back to a friend of ours when George is doing his news report on Bob Lazar, first time I was going to air. He just said, when he was up at Area 52, he just said, hey, you should pay attention to the news.

His career was over. He got pulled into room the next day. I would call him a friend of ours. I interviewed him about it. I mean, that was done. He just mentioned to watch George's news report. again, we're not equating Bob Lazar to anything, but we're just saying, that happened.

So what do you mean if you mention certain whistleblowers? Who? David Grush. You can't mention David Grush in certain professional settings, or you are fucked. Yeah, if you're not fired, you are in for a very rough time, is my understanding. Elizondo? You know, I didn't hear Elizondo as a no-go word.

Saying David, look, David Grush testified in open Congress, so that makes sense. So have you seen it happen? Have you seen people mention his name? How do you become a way you can't even talk about him? So that specific example, heard from a friend at that agency, that was essentially the word of mouth from management, nothing written in paper, nothing in emails.

But from what it sounds like, people got a conversation with their leadership and were told as much as we've just gone over. And his name was absolutely the first-hand experience. sort of radioactive in the chat rhythms. It would either all of a sudden these people that never participate are there really slamming him and slamming the people talking about him on the classified internet. Indeed. Our space is one we've talked about a bunch of these where people had to open dialogue.

It just got a clamp down. And his name was part of that. That's what you meant when you said certain people are radioactive. You can't mention their names. Right. Okay. Clueless. Yeah.

No, we're nuclear. He's radioactive with different designation. Yeah. So you're seeing these. videos and some limited discussion. You can't really openly talk about it, but you're curious. You're kind of hooked on the topic. Yeah. And to be clear, uh, uh, 2018 when this first exposure happened and for about a few years after, it was more, it did at least feel more open, looking back on it. This was probably a counterintelligence prerogative at the time. Um, but it was

allowed to exist. The discussion was allowed to exist. And it felt more like, you know, people were excited to finally actually be able to talk about this and finally be able to try to to compare notes figure it out well that's when the uap task force was created they didn't call it that but it was up and running and they were trying to make entreaties out to the intelligence community and dod hey they wanted input from and partners yeah so i i saw that emerge and i saw it die it's all die and when you say exposure we're going to get into this but you mean it technically it's called spillage. It's when you see something that is of a compartmentalized or nature that you are not specifically cleared to see and you were exposed to something. And it was like, holy shit,

what is this? And the first thoughts of that I'm interested in. So if we're at that point, yeah. Okay. So let's talk about that. Look, the whole world that knows about IMCON, immaculate constellation. We're saying that word out loud. At one time, that was very dangerous to say out loud to write to text. We should talk about that. But before, this is your gateway. This is the entrance point. What happened? How did it happen?

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was opening files that were clearly misfiled and either sorting them to our offices part of that server or putting them in their own box to be sorted by other response to your jobs. I mean, this is more like volunteer duty, but yes. So because you're a one, workaholic and you're curious and you read a lot. You come across a file that really is what

leads us to being here today. It's the Schreiber file? Yeah. So it was labeled 2018 Schreiber Wargame. It might have been brief or something else, but that's it. There's nothing about that that screams, you know, it's a very interesting thing. In fact, usually a lot of war game briefs are pretty boring. So there's nothing that stood out about it. Accidental exposure for you. 100%. You go into it and what do you see?

There's just a generic title slide. There's a banner without classification markings that just says Immaculate Constellation. And it has a placeholder slide that shows like the Shriver Warbit or Shriver Air Base logo and some logos of the units involved. But at that time, I believe it would have still been. like Air Force Space Command adjacent. So still, nothing particularly stunning. I think the name at the top, probably just the name of the exercise.

So the next slide, though, is where it gets interesting, because the face of Lou Elizondo is on that next slide. And I was not who I was expecting to see. And it was accompanied by text to summarize. Please have some grace with me. It's been seven years, but it was saying that Immaculate Constellation is an unacknowledged special access program, established after the exposure of ATIP in 2017 by former USDA officer Lou Elizondo. And, you know, that's the gist of that first slide.

And so I'm looking at that, and, you know, nothing particularly convincing that that's alien-related, or what the sap is or what it's doing. So I don't know what to make of this. So I read the whole thing. And it got very interesting, very quick. So it's designated a sap. You know this is a sap. It's sitting on a server.

Maybe it shouldn't be on. Correct. Right. So I think that's important. And also it seems like it's just a response to the public spillage or exposure that we saw come forward with people like and specifically Lou Elizando. This was like an internal. classified response to the fact, oh, shit, some of this is out now.

Yeah, that's exactly the tone of those words, of that slide. That's the implied order of events that led to being established. So it's like 2018, maybe. Yeah, the file was at least last accessed in 2018. I can't remember if it did say, you know, the file creation data if I looked it up, but I know it was last accessed. And you see who's accessed it prior to you? I can.

And what did you see? So everyone says that I'm wrong. It's impossible. But the name I recall and recalled at the time thinking, oh, that's odd, was name redacted. And did you know who that was? Vaguely. At that time, you know, people are considered superstars in leadership circles. So you just hear names like that.

And that's what her name was. Why would that be impossible? Why are people now in retrospect? Why are people telling you that would be impossible? Oh, she wasn't at the Pentagon then. Where was she? She was at the Pentagon, to my knowledge, but they're saying she wasn't there. Right. Interesting.

So, all right, so Shriver War Games, you keep reading. There's a big slide with Lou Elizondo's face on it. What comes next? I mean, you get a sense that I shouldn't be able to read this here. No, not yet, actually. To be clear, at that point in time, I had no formal training in what Saps were. There was no sap marking on this, just a name, Immaculate Constellation. The opening slide, you know, just we would call it improperly labeled, improperly classified.

What was it? What did you show? So the next slide, the third slide about just jumps straight into the mission of this app and showing what apparently the results of that mission are. And it's a collection incident in the Pacific Ocean. The subject of collection is several Russian. and naval intelligence vessels in the middle of the ocean at night. And above those vessels is a large black triangle floating in the air. This is a still image, but it is color. Okay, so that's the first kind of event.

But what was the mission? What was the mission? That's what people want to know is what was the mission of Immaculate Constellation as described in the product? So in the product itself, you had to piece together the mission by reading the whole thing and kind of putting together the parts. you know, it never spelled out fully, like, as it should, the mission of the sap. And I assume that's because this is a type of brief where there will be inserts to the deck,

which would be inserted by the SAP control officer during the briefing that would provide another level of detail. But based on the information included in there and its description, the mission becomes apparent, and that is a bare minimum. It's the intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance mission of a global nature for UAPs and RVs, ARVs. The hesitation there is some time has passed. One of those acronyms is in there, either RV or ARV, and that is how the triangle, in this case, was labeled. It's been seven years.

So as you're reading through this and that you're remembering RV or ARV just for our audience. So RV is, you know, reverse- Reproduction vehicle. And the ARV would mean... Anomelous reproduction. You know, we see, you know, people in the literature say alien reproduction vehicle. It could just be anomalous. Advanced or advanced.

It could be anything that can go after A. So you don't know what that is, but I don't. This is a pretty interesting image here. It is. And then the text of the companies, it describes the incident. And what can you tell us about? The summary of that is just the how it unfolded. I should actually back up and say the image itself was unique.

This isn't by a plane or a satellite. It looks to be a image pretty close to the water line. So something that to me read is we had a clandestine submersible asset close by this fleet, and it's taking pictures trying to stay unnoticed. And so, yes, in the description, it basically lays out what what occurred that night, which was that the R.E. Collection assets were there

in area monitoring Russian naval vessels. Not sure what they're doing there. But they've been hanging out in the middle of the ocean in this place, apparently for a few days. Keep an eye on him. And this night, while they are observing the Russian vessels, a large black triangle materializes or decloaks

or something. The point is, is it did not move. It appeared directly above these ships. probably no more than 200 meters pretty close. And interestingly, as noted in the report itself, there was no visible reaction from these vessels from what would almost certainly be considered a hostile approach. What do you take away from that?

They didn't notice it or they're not upset about it or they don't know what to do with it or what? So the implication also in the text describing it was, or sorry, I should say the analysis in the text was that the Russian Navy had four knowledge that this vehicle would appear in that area of the ocean, and they were there specifically to either collect on it themselves or to interact with it in some way. Any indication that it might be there, that they knew it's going to be there because they control it? Not in that document, and I haven't seen anything to make me think that they controlled that particular craft,

but didn't see anything to the contrary either. I guess it could be that they've seen it before, that there's nothing they can do about it, so don't get excited about it. Might be, although it is interesting, you know, if it's something that's part of their environment, as it were. Why are they making an effort to be in this space at this time to collect on something they already know about? Is it like in the middle of nowhere? Yeah, it's off the coast of Kamchatka, is as I recall, in the Pacific Ocean. That's what struck me. I mean, my mind goes to the idea that they were kind of camped out, you know, deep,

kind of ocean in this one specific area durationally. It kind of implies to me, if I'm thinking outside the box here, there's some form of comms or communication with whoever the operators are of this craft. Am I going too far with that idea? I think it's a reasonable one to have, but it's not one that I can validate. Yeah, let's be clear. You were exposed to something. We're just touching the basics here.

We're theorizing. We're talking about a bunch of stuff. We don't know. But the descriptions that you. were exposed to kind of give you a little insight that we can at least look at some of those assumptions, right? Right. Right. Absolutely. And I'm sure there's a literature out there that can help narrow down. So immaculate constellation. You've never heard this term before. And it doesn't give you the full picture there, but what other additional information did it give about what this

was and how it operates? Just describe the events and that analysis of the event of the Russians having four knowledge to be there and describing how the event occurred as I just went over. So this is a page turner. So you're interested there. You're curious now. Absolutely.

What do you do next? What do you say? Go to the next page. And it was disappointing because we get into a couple slides of orbs. And I had already seen orbs at this point in an official setting. So the next page is show orbs

from different parts of the world. It looks like the pattern is that under this emaculate constellation, they're gathering UAPE images from all over the point. Absolutely. I mean, that's the core of it, right? Great. It's the idea that we collect data on these UAP, and someone needs to bring them, co-late them together,

to provide intel to who needs it. And we're assuming, or not assuming, it's been pretty laid out, the Macat Constellation, was a kind of place to bring everything together to provide those briefings to senior leadership. Is that correct? I don't know about to provide briefings, but definitely to collect data from the military intelligence enterprise specifically

and the sensors associated with that. And yes, to collect that data, centralize it and have it there for presumably both analysis and operational needs. Wishing you could be there live for the big game, soaking up the atmosphere of the crowd. But too often, life gets busy or the price holds you back. Priceline is here to help you make it happen. With millions of deals on flights, hotels, and rental cars, you can go see the game live.

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made you oversaw where the term immaculate constellation was used? Until I wrote one, yeah. We'll get into that. But instead of like, go through people, be so curious. So what comes on the fourth page? Talks through the pages. Just go ahead. On the next episode of Weaponized.

When I was in USDA, I read the transcripts of Sean Patrick briefing, Senator Rubio, Senator Warren, and Senator Gillibrand on the results of his investigation in his Congressional-tassed Arrow Report. You know, I read these transcripts once and immediately knew that... Veiled threat? No, I knew that I was now something else. I was in, I had inside knowledge into the deception of our government by elements of our intelligence community.

My blood ran cold at a specific point in that transcript where Mr. Rubio is discussing the legacy program. was a subject of direct discussion with Sean Kirkpatrick in these meetings. And based on Mr. Kirkpatrick's replies about as vague as they were, but unable to escape the truth of the legacy program, Mr. Rubio's response was, well, what the hell is the executive branch doing? Have they been running this for 60 years without congressional oversight? The process of Grush coming forward left awake on the inside, too.

People were tracking that weren't even involved, but we're able to see sort of the distortions on the inside. Distortions are true. Exactly. And but also, you know, bureaucracies and offices behaving weirdly. That was one of the moments that really started to convince me that this was not under our government's control.