WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - The UAP Witness That Didn’t Testify - Congress Wanted You To Hear This

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Before the congressional Secrets Task Force decided to call Dylan Borland to testify publicly at a hearing in September, another witness was slated to appear. In that same slot. Who is he? What was he prepared to say? And why did he suddenly decline to come forward? In this episode of WEAPONIZED, Jeremy and George track down the mystery witness and hear his story for the first time in public. This military veteran had a close-up view of a huge and astonishing craft as it sat hovering above a runway at Eglin Air Force Base, surrounded by other military personnel. Was it one of ours... or one of theirs? This witness was invited to tell his account to Congress during the September public hearing and was prepared to do so but had to decline for reasons that were not immediately clear. Now, he is revealing what he knows. GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://netflix.com/title/81674441⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Fit for your ambition for Citizens Bank. Now there was another person, George, who the world did not get to hear from, somebody that was authorized to testify to Congress, went through the entire vetting process. So my name's Daniel Goccarell. In 2006, February to March timeframe, I was in last stage at the Branger School, notable observations, and that it's, there's a zero oscillation, right? The propulsion and noise, there was no audible report, no hum, nothing. How big was this? Why was it, in your mind, different? This thing could take up a football field.

It was instant and it was far and away just like the most violently fast thing that I've ever seen. Pentagon City, I talked to a couple other whistleblowers and they both talked about the same exact craft. This is weaponized. This is weaponized. I'm George Knapp, hiding here in Las Vegas, joined by my friend and colleague Jeremy Corbell in parts unknown. Jeremy, how you doing? I'm good man, looking sharp, look like you're a working man, like a news person, like a journalist going to work. I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I have another job. I work for a TV station here in Las Vegas.

Yeah, sometimes I put on a shirt and a tie, and that should be our dress code for weaponized, by the way. You have ties, right? I can say, oh, you get somewhere. I got married once, you know. I can send you some that are a little updated. Mine are pretty outdated as it is. So what's been going on? I'm reading a lot of stuff about our friends.

and Dylan Borland, you know, we put out two episodes, boom, kind of exploded social media and UFO circles. People are talking about him. He's getting slapped around quite a bit, as we would expect. How does he do it? Yeah, I think he's doing great, man. He feels that he told it, you know, exactly how it is. And I saw that with the first episode,

I saw that the first attack was on the, on his service career, right? And we did have to redact certain things. in our episodes, you'll see that redaction comes up. Why? Why did you do that? Censorship. Who told you to do that, Jeremy? I saw that repeated many times.

Yeah. So I'll explain that. I think we put that in the episode, but I'll explain that a little bit. So Dylan was given only six days notice to prepare for his congressional testimony. So imagine that is, from what he says, when he testified the ICIG,

when he testified to Arrow, that there were portions of his testimony that ended up being classified. And I have actually, I have run that down and that is true. So some of what Dylan said was classified. So he had to walk this tightrope of what can I say publicly to Congress, what can I say to journalists. And what we ended up redacting was mainly just stuff about his personal work experience that he wasn't sure if he was allowed to talk about. So he's putting in request through Dobser to figure out, can he talk about those things? But none of it was like nefarious, like we're covering stuff up or we're self-censoring, other than just Dylan

protecting him with basic information. What can he talk about? So look, people wanted to hear his testimony, but we also have to make sure that he doesn't cross any line that can be used against him because he's talking about a big topic. Yeah, just to be clear, I mean, I saw people wondering what government authority cracked down on us and made us redact and censored this stuff. And it was nobody. It was us acting in the best interest of Dylan, so he doesn't cross a line or get in any legal trouble. You and Michael spent hours and hours going over every line of every statement made, and you're just trying to be overly protective of him so that nobody could come after him for things that he has shared, things that should be public, by the way. Yeah, yeah. And it's non-UFO-related. 99.9% of it's just basic stuff when you're working. in the intelligence community and you have certain jobs, you know, you, and he does take his oath

seriously and, you know, you have to kind of navigate that. So look, we did our best. I think that the core of it, the core of it is all there. Now, hopefully he does get authorized to talk about other things. I am really curious about these drawings. So we saw one and the world got to see one, which is the firsthand experience that Dylan had, which is seeing the triangular craft at a military base, extraordinary account, you know, gold lava, no sound, shooting up without a sonic boom. That alone is amazing. That's firsthand. But he also conveyed some secondhand legacy UFO program experience.

And oddly enough, from what I understand, that's what was classified in the two drawings we don't get to see that we don't know about. So it would be curious why you'd classify something that wasn't sensitive or wasn't I mean, that's kind of weird to me. One last point on that. Tim Phillips went on and said, Arrow doesn't classify things. They don't have the authorities to classify. So what they have to do is they have to go to the source

of these narratives that they're being told and then decide it is sensitive enough. UAP related is what it seems like to classify it. So I am really curious. If there's nothing to it of what Dylan has to say, then what was classified? Can we see that? Can we hear about that? You know, it kind of comes with the territory. So we get a lot of commentary, no matter what

interview we do or whatever witness we bring forward about, come on, you're censoring it, let them tell everything. No one would dare hurt them. No one's going to come after them or prosecute them. This is, we're seeing in real time the life of a whistleblower. When people come forward, what happens to them? They get beat up and pummeled. Their integrity gets questioned. they could call all kinds of insulting names. Their background is challenged. Everything about their lives gets dragged through the mud. In this case, we saw Sean Kirkpatrick and maybe his sidekick come forward before Dylan even testified

and said all kinds of crap about all of those witnesses who are coming forward. They're storytellers, they're liars, they're exaggerators, they're grifters, they're making this stuff up. All these kind of things before they even said what they wanted to say. And since Dylan and the others have testified at that congressional hearing, man, they're getting slimed all over the place. That is what people face. And it's not so much just to punish them for coming forward. These attacks are meant to discourage other whistleblowers and other witnesses from every peaking their head out of the foxhole. And I think to a large extent it works, don't you?

Yeah, and it's pretty amazing now that you put it in that perspective, I mean, what is a guy like Sean Carpatrick or even Tim Phillips doing talking about people who are coming forward to Congress before they do? It makes me want to hear what they have to say more. It's very counterintuitive that they try to do the slime job before we even hear what they have to say. Remember, this isn't casual testimony when Dylan testified. It was at great personal risk just because we see what's going on on social media. But to make something up under oath in front of Congress or to make. something up when you testify to the ICIG or to Arrow, if he was lying or misinformed, that would have

consequences. So to already diminish somebody like that before they testify is very strange because it takes a lot of courage to do it. Now, you know, the question is, do we believe Dylan's testimony? And that's why we put stuff out. So everybody can, they can vet it. They can look into it. I'll tell you something. David Grush does believe Dylan. And I can tell you that personally because David Grush, and I don't think we've talked about this, George, but he was part of the vetting process with all of the witnesses that we brought forward. I wanted a second set of eyes on people to say, is this from your knowledge,

is this worthy of them going under oath in front of Congress? And David and Dylan had, I introduced them on a deeper level. They had never met. of course Chuck McCull and Dave did encourage him to come forward right after David Grush testified to say if you've got something, go to the ICIG. But they had never substantially met. And I facilitated that during this vetting process. So somebody had asked that David Gresh believed him, we haven't heard from him. And yeah, I'd say he does believe him because he was part of the vetting process of Dylan and a lot of other people were.

and Dylan was considered worthy of talking before Congress. It is risky for witnesses and whistleblowers to come forward, no matter how you cut it. I mean, there are a risk in terms of legalities. I mean, obviously, Dylan's never going to have a clearance again. They can never work in that world. I saw people commenting, well, let him get some other job. Well, you've been trained for this. You've been trained and experienced in doing what he was doing.

It's hard to go from that to work in a 7-Eleven or McDonald's. you know, and make a living in Virginia, which is a pretty expensive place. You get a lot of comments about the legalities involved and who else he has talked to. He's talked to other people. I mean, Congress was not the first go-round. It's not his first rodeo, right? That's right. Yeah, he's testified.

And that's why I said, if he was lying or even misinformed on a deep level, there would be consequences. He has testified to numerous official bodies. and and that's been a little bit of a trip. So, yeah, look, I'm glad that Dylan came forward and told what it is that he experienced firsthand, but also went as far as to tell what he understood from secondhand information, what he's convinced of. Now, time will tell if that's, I hope time will tell if that's correct information, but I am absolutely going to give it the benefit of the doubt until I see evidence otherwise.

Now, there was another person, George, who the world did not get to hear from. somebody that was authorized to testify to Congress went through the entire vetting process with me and other people to make sure that, you know, that what they were saying added up, that they could be a witness and it was legal for them to do it. And that was a man named Daniel. And Daniel was in Ranger School and had a sighting or an encounter of a huge triangular craft. But it happened to be on Egland Air Force Base. So this is what's really bizarre.

It's a type of craft that looks like no sonic boom hovering without sound. Why this story is important and why I fought for him to be able to testify, it's because it confuses me. And it gives me hope, right? If we got these craft, these UFOs that can fly in ways that are just way beyond normal reactionary propulsion systems, what is this thing doing at England Air Force Base? And nobody knows about it. We don't see it in the theater of war.

So it kind of gives me hope that maybe we've either reverse engineered stuff or we've kept stuff super secret, or we've got some sort of partnership program. I don't know. You choose. Well, he's a really interesting witness. I hadn't heard this story until we interviewed him for weaponized. And, you know, what came across to me was, this guy does not live down in the same rabbit hole as you and I.

He doesn't get his mail down there in UFO rabbit hole. He's not a UFO guy. But he did have a good military career, and he saw something really, really strange, and we're about to hear that story. I wish Congress had heard it. I think the Eglin Air Force Base angle is interesting because, as you recall, that's where Representative Luna and Gates went to get a briefing, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And that's where they were stymied, basically from, you know, they tried to stop them from talking with the pilots. So I knew it would be of interest. And to be clear, Congress did hear the testimony. We went through numerous, even national security people were there, you know, making sure we could tell the story.

He was authorized to testify to Congress. It was for personal issues, a really good one, actually. But it was for personal issue that he couldn't do it. But now for the first time, the public gets to hear his testimony. And now what we make of it, we'll talk about that on the other side. But here is my pal Daniel, who's got a great encounter. And here you go. So my name's Daniel Goccarell.

In 2006, February to March timeframe, I don't have a definitive date, but I was in the very last stage or phase of Ranger School. And I had a bad jump and I sustained an L1 compression fracture and some pretty good TBI traumatic brain injury. But it was mainly the back. And because of that, I was housed in a little medical. facility right there in Eglon Air Force Base, which is down near Destin, Florida, Panama City Beach, Florida, right on the panhandle there.

So I woke up one night, I was woken up one night because I heard a large engine powering up and then powering down. It was shaking the building. It was a small building, a couple beds in the little medical bay, and then they had a little staff duty, CQ, specialist there. And I think he was a specialist. Specialist or sergeant,

but he was manning the desk, you know, in case anything happens, that's to wake us up, fire watch, basically. Yeah. And I got out of my bed.

I was in a framed, uh, kind of keeps your back straight. It's like, I felt like a robot. Um, wasn't supposed to walk. I had these crutches and I get out,

uh, of my bed and I make it to the staff duty. desk, the staff duty kid was there, he was watching the movie, he had his headphones on. So he was more or less oblivious to the sound, which, and after exchanging pleasantries, because I wasn't supposed to be out of bed and I wasn't supposed to be upright, I asked him what this sound was, and he said that it's just the Air Force testing stuff, right? So I, if I'm a cigarette from him, I step outside and I look to my left and about I would say

3, 400 yards there was a clearing and surrounding this clearing is these high mass portable generator lights like they use on construction for in roadways that you see and stuff

and highways and stuff like that and I saw Humvees military personnel out there look like and some black SUVs and I see hovering about 15 to 20 feet off the ground this giant maybe 300 or so feet in length aircraft there was no visible cockpit you know no visible like traditional fuselage or engine like I couldn't see it just it was different to me so so about right about the time I get

out and I notice this, it hovers. It goes straight up and when I say hover, I don't mean in a traditional sense. So when you think about any fixed-wing aircraft, any bird that we have known to man right now, even a rotary bird, it oscillates when it hovers. This just goes straight up and it's dead quiet. Nothing, not a sound. I could hear the buzzing from the generator light. right so this gets about to the canopy like height a little over the canopy and does a slight bank and takes off and it rips right over the canopy like looks like it was heading northeast and which i'm guessing i like i honestly couldn't remember just i don't know sometimes you know you feel like you know your cardinal directions like which way's home anyway this aircraft when it banked

I can see that it's a perfect triangle and it's gigantic and it has a white light at each apex of the triangle and a large white light in the center. And it takes off and it zips out of sight. I mean, mock something we don't know. And I mean, it takes off. And the biggest shock to me at that point was there was no audible report. There was nothing, like something going that fast. It's going to bust the sound barrier, you're going to hear it. And I didn't.

I heard nothing. And at that point, again, it was just the buzzing of the generator lights out there. I watch this as I'm smoking my cigarette. Seemingly do several touch and goes, but it doesn't go down at that little drop zone that it took off. It just comes back, stays there for a second, a couple seconds, and then takes off again. Comes back, stays there for a couple seconds, takes off again. And at that point, I grew bored of it and I was impressed, obviously. But I'm like, okay, this is our military testing, some awesome technology.

And, you know, again, this isn't my wheelhouse. So I'm not, you know, this is, I'm not really realizing that this is some sort of zero point energy or something that we, you know, we've never seen before. So it's nothing like I've ever seen before. I've never seen any military or civilian bird have the capability. abilities that something like this has. Again, there's no signage, there's no visible cockpit, fusillade, you know, there's nothing that I can see that, you know, would make me think it's any kind of traditional bird that we've, you know, we've seen or I've heard about. It takes off, and I go back inside and that's it. So the biggest thing to me, and when we were discussing it is the

notable observations and that there's a zero oscillation, right? The propulsion and noise, there was no audible report, no hum, nothing. What was it? It lacked like an obviously visible cabin, any signage, engine housing, engine housing, exhaust systems. and it's the sheer speed that it that you know that was you know one of the most notable things so yeah i want to ask you the obvious questions that people are going to ask i think i'd like to ask them um first off and we can do them in short order but just first off when you say like gigantic like obviously you were impressed by this you say you've never seen anything like this you know as you say

birds, you know, planes, you know, you've been around them. What was, like, how big was this? Why was it, in your mind, different? Like, um, nose to ask, this thing could take up a football field. It was, it was like 300 feet or so, I'm guessing. Um, but yeah, approximately, probably like 300 feet, um, maybe 15 to 20 feet in its thickness from that profile view. Wow. And honestly, I can't remember seeing anything else.

I was trying and squinting so hard to see, like, see the tail. Anything that would register visibly, like, a tail or something like that, there was nothing, no fins or, you know, nothing like that. Right. So this is not typical aviation, meaning you've got a perfect triangle that is at one point hovering completely silent to the point where you can hear these generators around it, and it shoots off at a speed where you should have heard some sort of signature from it is what I'm understanding from you.

So you're looking at a type of aviation that we don't see every day is a good way to say it. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, let me ask you back. Let's go back about the sound. At first, there was something loud enough that it got you out of basically sickbed, and to get outside and, you know, got you to physically get up. So what was it that you were hearing initially, or was it just the vibrations of the building?

Or what were you hearing? I mean, it could have been the vibration of the rumbling of the building at first. But, I mean, it was, you know, when I came to, I could hear it like it, I could hear that rumble that, you know, like it's powering up and then powering down. Something's powering up and powering down. Wow. So like electrical energy going ratcheting up and then back down again. You heard that many times?

Yes. So by the time you get outside, there's no like screaming engines or anything. Was it at that point completely silent? There was no more powering up, powering down when I got outside. I mean, it might have stopped maybe at that time I was engaged with the back and forth with the Staff Duty Kid. And he's seeing it too? Is this staff? No, so when I asked him, he said, oh, that's just the Aurora project.

You know, it's the Air Force testing, some bird, which I was later told, you know, in Washington circles that a lot of times they'll give shit names to that might be from another project. So, you know, it's kind of out of sight out of mind. Right. So you don't go around telling everybody what you saw. but you never signed an NDA or anything like that for seeing this. No. No, I've always kind of been a little apprehensive about, like, talking about this now that I'm realizing it's such kind of, it's pretty big deal. Because, again, you have to understand that for years to me.

I mean, I think I told a couple people and the guys that I was talking to were the guys that, that's their wheelhouse. They, you know, they're the top gun guys. They like, you know, when they have the guys that when you see an aircraft, they're like, that's an FAA, Super Hornet, you know? Yeah. And I was, you know, I brought it up to none. That's actually, coincidentally, what kind of led me to you is through a friend who is known in y'all circles and the DC brass circles.

And, you know, that's what led me to you. Well, yeah, I'm glad that I got to hear your story. I just thought it was important for other people to hear what you saw. You know, you're not claiming you know what it is. I'm not claiming I know what it is. but it definitely, if I saw a football-sized, like a stadium-sized triangular craft hovering silently, just that alone, even without the takeoff you described, without a sonic boom, I mean, that's, to me, that would be astonishing to me to see something that big hovering silently

on a military base, like in the sky. I mean, was it astonishing in any way? It blew me away the size, definitely. the first thing I saw because it's so jet black is I just saw that they were doing something out there with all the lights and it took me a second to notice that holy crap here it is you know um but yeah outside of that like I was simply just blown away by how fast it was and not hearing any kind of audible report you know any kind of sonic boom or anything right and I wanted to hear a little bit of a little bit of little bit more about that. So when you're talking about, you know, the thing moving, so there was no air displacement, there was no sound like a sonic boom. Was it faster than anything you've ever seen fly before? Was it instantaneous? Did it go move slowly? How did it shoot off? It was instant and it was far and away just like the most violently fast thing that I've ever seen. So yeah. Wow.

Yeah. Well, I think it's lucky that you got to see that. It's amazing. You didn't have to sign any NDAs. I know you've provided your full testimony to Congress, and they thought it of value enough to want you to testify to the American public about seeing it. Because whether this is non-human intelligence reverse engineered craft, or it's just a technology that is being held back from common day use. No one goes to Hank's for his spreadsheets.

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Copilot handles the spreadsheets. Learn more at M365 copilot.com slash work. I think it's the secrecy that was kind of disturbing to Congress. I also know that the FBI was interesting. in hearing your full detailed account and that you did testify to the FBI. So you've done your service and you've testified to everybody. And I'm grateful for that. But now the American public gets to hear and put that in whatever box they want. Because to me, it's hopeful, man. To me, that this is obviously a craft that the United States government isn't somehow operating

or facilitating the operation of. And it's been, you know, always a question is if our government has reverse engineered anything or has any of this technology under their control. So I'm kind of optimistic from hearing your account because it sheds a little light on what our government is at least doing with one of these, you know, one of these craft. So I don't know, man. Thank you. Thank you for test. Do you have any final thoughts or anything you want to tell me?

Honestly, you know, when I, so I did get invited to go up to Pentagon City there and I sat at a table. with like 13, 14 guys. I brought my buddy up there for backup because I was a little sketched out. You know, I'm not used to this kind of stuff. And I'm not, I don't chase clout or anything. That's one of the reasons you've never seen me on anything like this before. That's actually one of the main reasons I didn't do that public hearing. And then I'm on here.

But I said, so I got my way, man. I was squeezing you. I was like, you know, people got to hear. people got to hear what you what you saw but i you know and and after you know discussing at length about this it i i do feel that it's important that people know about it um you know i'm not one of those guys that that more or less has to have the information right there i understand like the need for the clandestine stuff um you know i was in the military i get it but at the same time you know if it's something as spectacular as this,

I mean, that would revolutionize travel. I mean, who knows, you know? Right. So it, and as far as being approached by anybody else, Arrow has yet, I've been told that they want to talk to me, but I've again been, and we talked about this before, I'm a little apprehensive about doing that. telling my story to certain people or groups,

given Eros kind of propensity to, more or less, you know, belittle the whistleblower's story, you know. And I'm not, I don't know, I just take it or leave it. You can believe me or not, you know. To me, again, I'm kind of flabbergasted that I can just see this and it's just so right out there, you know. So, I mean, if it's so clandestine, how could I, you know,

again, it's a little bit of a remote area. I get it. And it is a secure area. But, you know, if it is that sensitive of information, then you would think... They should have told you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. Well, yeah. I really appreciate everything that you guys are doing. I... I'm a little intimidated. You know, I mean, I'm comfortable with you. now, but it's still very intimidating meeting guys like George and them and

stuff. People that I've like listened to, again, this isn't one of my big things, but I've always taken an interest in the unexplained, you know? Yeah. So, um, it's just it's kind of serendipitous that I kind of sort of get to be a part of it now, you know?

But, um, it brings me to the last point, which is something you wrote in your congressional testimony. The last thing you wrote, you said, the observed phenomenon displayed characteristics inconsistent with conventional aircraft technology known at the time. The size, silence, stability, and speed of the object suggested an advanced aerial platform. And you wrote, this account is provided for further investigation and documentation.

And that's what I really liked about your testimony that you did provide to Congress, that written testimony, is you're like, look, we just need to investigate and we need to document this because this is outside of the norm of what we're told exists. You know, no, you shouldn't jump to any conclusions based on what other people think. You saw what you saw. You reported it the way you did to Congress and also speaking with the FBI, whoever else you do. But now you're reporting it to the world. This is what you saw.

So I just want to say thank you so much for taking the time. I know it's been a long time you and me talking. You didn't want to come forward with this. And I respect that. But it's my job to put it. you. Yeah. Well, who knows?

This might segue into, or might be the catalyst, you know, maybe for something else on this, because I forgot to mention, too, that when I did go up to that meeting up there, Pentagon City, I talked to a couple other whistleblowers. You know of one. And actually, you know both of them. And they both talked about the same exact craft, you know. it would be one thing if it was you know

oh I saw a flying disc and oh this guy saw a flying disc no he's literally telling me and like just going down the list and checking off every characteristic of what I had seen you know so that's what's really creepy to me it kind of blows me away that all right this isn't just you know

farmer Brown you know not pushing any you know hate or anything to you know like the regular John, you know, Joe Shmo, you know, civilian. But, you know, we're having, like, you know, Navy pilots and, like, top brass and stuff, like, talking about these things. And it, it's very, very weird to me that we're sitting here doing these, like,

congressional hearings. Because I feel like if this was, like, the 50s or something, the whole world would stop. And we'd be like, okay, what is this? Right, right. He who has the answers, show yourself, come out, tell us what's going on or I mean just you know or tell us hey this is something we're working on can't tell

you about you know the information as of yet it's not stable whatever reasons that they have but I think it is it's just this glaring elephant in the room and everything we do and every step we take you know I mean I get it I

I can see that you know John Q Pubit's going to say wow that's crazy and then they're going to scroll to the next you know whatever it is Well, hopefully they're going to scroll to an episode of Weaponize and they'll hear it again. But look, man, I really, I really appreciate it. And I appreciate you sharing this because I know you don't really want to go public with stuff. And I appreciate that, though.

I do think it's really important. Your account gives me some sense of hope that we have some control over this technology that we've been seeing, obviously not piloted by us, you know, 100 years ago. But today, it seems like we have some sort of control of. So go USA. I hope that's the case. So your account gives me that little bit of hope. Anyway, man, thank you so much. I can't wait for the world to hear your testimony.

And we'll probably talk soon. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you to you, George, all of your constituents. You guys are literally spearheading this fight for disclosure. It's very historical. I don't know if you get the accolades. I don't think you guys do that you deserve.

It's really incredible. And please keep doing what you're doing because guys like you are guys that speak for the rest of us men and women who want answers. And so you doing these things that you're doing and the platforms that you have to do it, it doesn't go unnoticed. It is like, again, I say, historic.

Yeah, so that was Daniel's testimony. We're just showing you the basics of what he could testify to. But it's firsthand experience of seeing a non-conference. typical aerial vehicle that seems to defy our known physics. Now, George, if this is ours and we built it and maybe we reversed engineered it or just normal ingenuity, how cool is it? And why aren't we seeing these ever in the theater of war? Yeah, where is it? Where are they keeping it? You know, it's been a long time since his sighting there. It's pretty clear with all the military personnel around it, that either it's ours, or it belongs to an ally, or we're working with somebody else

who's flying it, but where the hell are they keeping this thing? Do we have more of them? And when do we get to see them? When are they going to bust them out and use them? We could use these things right now, couldn't we? Yeah, I mean, didn't Dr. Lakatsky and with Ossap, didn't they study the black triangle phenomenon? That was NIDS. That was actually years before Ossap. Some of that information did make it into the DIA Ossap files, but yeah, NIDS did this really interesting study on the black triangles years ago. And you know, we can find that and post it somewhere so that people can read that stuff. It's pretty interesting stuff still. Yeah, man, with all the progress that we've made with these congressional hearings, I mean, at one time, we were trying to get Likatsky to testify in front of

Congress, you know, and it was like he wasn't sure if he could or would, but man, I would love to hear from him again. He just came out with a new book, and I've not read it yet, but I'm going to read it, and I think we should push him. I have it. He sent me a copy a few weeks before. It was going to be out on Kindle. And yeah, I think we should push to see, to talk with Dr. Likaski if he'll come out in the open and play with us again. I think that's doable. Let's try our best. But anyway, thanks, George. I want people to go back and listen to Dylan's full testimony, part one, part two. There have been some good questions. Own it all. Pay off your home, travel for life, drive a Ferrari. In celebration of the

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We just need to determine for ourselves, be critical thinkers, and look for the people who are trying to just immediately dissuade you that he is somebody that shouldn't be listened to because I think there's a lot of good retorts to some of the weird stuff we're seeing online about him. Yeah, all of it very much expected, typical for witnesses, his stature to come forward with a story like this. I'm most encouraged by something that Dylan put out on social media that he and his wife have adopted a new cat and all homes. should have cats. And the only thing better than one cat is two cats. So I'm encouraged by that that cat will help him as he goes down the path of life. And you need one too, Jeremy. I'm allergic, man. Me too. All right. Well, thanks, George. Have a good work day. And we'll talk soon.