WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp - WEAPONIZED : EPISODE #60

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

In WEAPONIZED, Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp pull back the veil on the world of the known, to explore the unexplained. This multi-platform investigative series features exclusive interviews, never-b...efore-seen footage, previously-suppressed documents, original audio and video recordings, and hard evidence related to UFOs, the paranormal, cutting-edge science, cover-ups, conspiracies, and big-time crimes. Original, groundbreaking conversations with government whistleblowers, spies, spooks, scientists, military officials, muckraking journalists, filmmakers, historians, artists, musicians, and major celebrities will cast a wide shadow through the other-world… and detail the human experiences that inform these extraordinary phenomena. Your curiosity will be WEAPONIZED. GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at WeaponizedPodcast@Proton.me ••• Full audio episodes are published across all podcast platforms - and in visual form exclusively at https://WeaponizedPodcast.com and on Corbell’s YouTube channel here https://Youtube.com/JeremyCorbell Extras and bonuses from episodes can be found at https://WeaponizedPodcast.com For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. ••• JEREMY CORBELL is an American contemporary artist and investigative filmmaker with movies on Netflix and Hulu. He is known for his documentary work exploring mysteries in the fields of UFOs, advanced technology and the “dark space” where science confronts the abnormal. Corbell’s films reveal how ideas, held by credible individuals, can alter the way we experience reality and help us to reconsider the fabric of our own beliefs. FOLLOW JEREMY ON SOCIAL https://x.com/JeremyCorbell https://Instagram.com/JeremyCorbell https://Facebook.com/JeremyCorbell JEREMY'S WEBSITE https://ExtraordinaryBeliefs.com ••• GEORGE KNAPP is an investigative journalist, whose work has been recognized with Edward R Murrow Awards, DuPont, Peabody Awards, and 28 Regional Emmy Awards. He is the chief investigative reporter for KLAS TV (CBS) and a regular host of the syndicated Coast to Coast AM radio show. His numerous exclusives include his reporting on the story of Bob Lazar, the public coverage of Area 51 and Skinwalker Ranch. FOLLOW GEORGE ON SOCIAL https://x.com/G_Knapp https://Instagram.com/GeorgeKnapp66 https://Facebook.com/George.Knapp.125 GEORGE'S WEBSITE https://MysteryWire.com ••• *Film editing and Creative Production by Michael Lazovsky https://MichaelLazovsky.com *Music by Oliver Lewis https://oliverlewis.info & Boomopera https://boomopera.bandcamp.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 At First Citizens Bank, we roll with your goals because we're built for what you're building. Fit for your ambition for Citizens Bank. In this week's episode of Weaponize, let's say there's a document that has been referenced in some reports. Michael Schellenberger has said there's a 20-something page document. Let's say there's a document. Let's be honest with our audience. You have been exposed to the entirety of the document. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:01:01 All right. Yeah, I've seen. From the very get-go, we have been in the know that we have been trying to exploit derivative technologies of UAP. Is that factual from where you're sitting? Yeah. Okay. I am directly aware of the totality of this report and information being in-person given to certain members. I'm not saying of Congress or Senate, certain members. And that I was present.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Now that it's out, how can it possibly, how can anyone hope to quash the story? Okay. I need to crack a beer. Okay. Because right now you have now brought up risk and threats. Yeah. Okay. You are asking me, and I'm sorry, I feel like a robot right now, but I just, I have been on guard.
Starting point is 00:02:00 This is our insurance policy, right? here. Okay. I've been notified of very specific and direct and detailed threats against my life, as well as against anybody who may have information, assets, or contact with additional whistleblowers or individuals who are aware of this program. So much so that I have taking action through law enforcement. Do you have in place what? you might call a dead switch, a system whereby information about this and other matters that we've collected over the years would be disseminated if something were to happen. I will not mince words.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We have had in place for quite some time unrelated to this story of immaculate constellation that if you or I are removed from the equation that you have absolute uncontrolled catastrophic disclosure of information that would be dangerous to the United States of America, that would be dangerous to global policy, that would be dangerous in many ways. And it benefits everybody to not fuck with journalists doing their job and sanitizing information
Starting point is 00:03:26 prior to the good of public knowledge with no harm to the United States of America putting it out. Secrets, cover-ups, and strange phenomena. UFOs and ideas that challenge reality itself. All these mysteries, all this time. Are we ever going to get to the bottom of these? My name is George Knapp.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I dig into news stories that others can't or won't. I'm Jeremy Corbell, and for some reason, people tell me things they probably shouldn't. And this is weaponized. This is weaponized. We're coming to you from the House of the Rise and Sun. That's what it looks like. This brothel where Jeremy hangs out.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Is that where we are? Oh, man. I mean, the whole world is against me why you got to do that. But yeah, yeah, this is a great hotel, great room. I love this. It looks like the shining or something weird. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And I thought maybe we could bring our viewers and listeners up to date on congressional interests in UAPs because a lot of folks message us all the time on when's the hearing, I was delayed, what's going on, and heck, there's a lot going on in the world for members of Congress who've been sort of driving this train, the people that we have talked to before. You were back there in Congress a couple of weeks ago and were in the offices of the people who are directly involved in this. What was the reason for the delay of the hearing into November?
Starting point is 00:04:53 I just want to be a little bit careful. Like, what was the reason for the delay in the hearing? I think common sense. I think that there's a lot going on in this. the world. I think very quickly people realized, wait a second, we have a real opportunity. We've been given information, whether it be new or just a discovery as if it was new. And I know you've, so what I think is common sense said with the state of the world and everything that's going on and with this information, we have a chance to do this a little better, just give it a little bit more
Starting point is 00:05:33 time and I think that that was the core reason. And also we want to make sure that everybody's available at the times to testify. So I have to be really, I'm going to be really honest. I have to be very cautious with my words right now. And not about the hearings. And you know why. And so I just sorry for that candor, but that is the reason. I think that minds decided it was good to be take serious what we're doing. I think it's fortuitous that they put it off until after the election. A, every member of the House is up for re-election. Yeah. A third of the members of the Senate are up for re-election. They're worried about the who's going to be president. There's a lot to focus on. In addition, I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:15 the real world got involved this past week, the past two weeks, with hurricanes, you know. And you look at the key members in the House who've been driving this UFO-UAP train, represent Luna. Yeah. Gates. Yes. Moskowitz. Yes. Birchett, all of their districts got pummeled by Hurricane Helene and now by the latest hurricane as well. So they've got a lot on their on their plates. Yeah, yeah. If it takes a hurricane to slow down a little bit. Yeah, so there's a lot going on in the world. I hear about it from other people like you and I do understand. So I think that it's for Tudis, like I think it's really good. Everybody's kind of like slowing down,
Starting point is 00:06:58 November 13th is the date of the upcoming UFO. hearing, it would take a lot to change that, but also people need to be protected before that. You know, the public demands, we see it every day on social media. Well, you don't because you're not there, but. I want to be clear. I am there. People text me the gnarliest shit every day. I say, Jeremy, did you see this?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Like friends and family. No, I'm not. I was kidding. I know, but I want people to know. I do care what people say. I do listen to what people say online. I just don't seek out trauma. You don't engage with it necessarily back and forth.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah, if you look up how many times I've said other people's name in vain, anybody, it'll be zero. I mean about the nature of engagement with the UFO public on social media. They're angry, they're upset, they're impatient. We want this, that, we want this witness. This is the kind of information we want, and they're not going to settle for anything less. you've been speaking with congressional members and with congressional staff about the nature of the hearings. Do you think that the public will be satisfied with what they end up with in terms of witnesses? I don't know specifically what the public is saying on X, but keep it up, X, keep it up, you know, put pressure on.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I don't know what people are saying. I would say I am not aiming at satisfying anybody other than I am aiming to do my duty to make sure that people testify. who need to be heard from. A two-word program popped up in the international media in the past couple of days. And there's a lot of speculation about who knew what and when. Can you walk us through how far back you heard about the nature of that program, how far back you heard the name of that program, and how legit the information is, in particular, this one whistleblower has been mentioned?
Starting point is 00:08:57 the short answer is fuck no but I will say that information will continue to come out about immaculate constellation I think there are smarter people than me
Starting point is 00:09:16 that will be able to hyperanalyze things that you've told me about that people are looking at like when people look that up on Google and all that stuff and I also promise that I will tell everything that I can that you and I know as time goes on. But right now I would say this. This is what I can say. Michael Schellenberger, who I have never spoken with before, got it right. What he reported is 100% accurate. Look at what he reported. And I'm verifying that is 100% accurate,
Starting point is 00:09:51 meaning what he reported was accurate. But you got to read what he reported. Seems like a hell of a guy. Like really, after that came out just like basically an emoji, like that guy did good, you know, but I've never talked with him. So he's independently doing his thing. I would say people should pay attention to what Michael Schellenberger reported on. And I think we're all in for a treat to, as you say, get out your knives and dissect. Like, let's see. I know part of what accompanied Schellenberger's story was an image. that we know pretty well.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yes. What we called the Mosul Orb. I think he inaccurately attributed that to Arrow. What's the story on that? That was not his fault. Look, so everything in his article was accurate. That was one point that was inaccurate, which he quickly fixed. It said that Arrow had produced that image of the Mosul orb.
Starting point is 00:10:51 So let's be very clear. You and I on what, and he immediately, correctly corrected that. Again, a really straight, seems like a very straightforward person. So the Moser orb is an image that you and I decided to release to the public. We have always said that that image
Starting point is 00:11:10 is from a FMV video, a full motion video video. Full motion video is a certain type of reconnaissance technology. And people can look that up, but it's very cool. And in the, article he originally under the image, I'm really glad he put that image there. It's actually
Starting point is 00:11:29 very important that he did. But that image, which was from 2016, so prior to what would have been what we now know as Immaculate Constellation or what we've heard about, but that image is very important. And we gave a chance to arrow, you and I gave a chance to arrow to put out the video. We've called to action they put out the video. We said, be transparent. You know, get it out there. every time we put out something, Arrow comes out with some other thing that a visual imagery, and even before Arrow, when Bray and what's his name, Bray and the other guy were up there in the first hearing and doing the whole slide-of-hand thing, every time, Moultry, Bray and Moultry, every time we come out with something, oh, there's some weird, ironic thing that's put out.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So Arrow did not put that out. They've never put out an image of that footage. They've never put out the video from that. They've got something that looks sort of like it. So exactly. And so here's the point. We put that out. And we did that knowingly, but giving a chance to Arrow as a representative of the DOD to put out.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And they never did. So, yeah. So people picked up on that real quick. And it was just simply like, it's important to say independent journalists put that out. Arrow never did. And they could have. And so, anyway, he fixed that super quick and I respect him very much. The nature of why it fits with his story, even though it doesn't quite fit in the timeline.
Starting point is 00:12:54 line, is because the program that he described, that he had sources that should have had with him, it could have been in there, it should have been in there, if it had been in existence at the time that image was captured, but it fits into the parameters of the program that he describes, is that this immaculate constellation. Constellation uses a lot of different kinds of platforms to collect UFO, USO, UAP type imagery and collates it into one place. Is that right? Yeah, both passive and active, and so this is public.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So if this program is as appears and described to the public, one of the primary missions of this program would be to acquire both actively and passively imagery from all sensor platforms in all domain. So we're talking about satellites to underwater sensors to land-based sensors to aerial sensors to space sensors, right? basically capturing UAP, but I'm going to caveat that, UAP that is known to be not from any technologically advanced nation on earth that is known to us at this time, which people call NHA, non-human intelligence. And the program was to acquire imagery of how other nations may have reverse engineered from NHA technology, human technology. The program had zero to do as far as data collection,
Starting point is 00:14:32 no mention of, legacy U.S. or even current U.S. programs of any reverse engineering full stop. That's how I understand it right now, if I'm wrong. So you understand the difference. Okay. No one goes to Hanks for spreadsheets. They go for a darn good pizza. Lately, though, the shop's been quiet.
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Starting point is 00:15:15 Let's say there's a program that broad across all the different, platforms that gather information from space, in the sky, you know, drones, things of that sort. That's a lot of different agencies, different departments, things of that sort. A lot of people would be involved. So this program, as described by Schellenberger in his article, and what you've shared with me, is a USAP, an unacknowledged special access program. For something that broad, wouldn't you need something acknowledged? At least it goes into, with, that many people. It's not a silo.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's not a restricted program. There's a lot of people have to know that exists. Oddly no. And that's what's interesting. So you can have a USAP, unacknowledged special access program, that acquires data and analyzes it from a broad spectrum,
Starting point is 00:16:13 from Air Force, to Navy, to Army, to satellite, to underwater, to drones. if there is if there are archives of uap information you would then co-late that analyze it focus it reduce it get it down and then and then get that into the eyes of people in the usap in the unagnosed so take the cream off the top that's what goes into the usap it's possible but there was more going on in that usap allegedly than just total reconnaissance right there there was material transfer implications, if I recall. There were things like that.
Starting point is 00:16:52 So what I'm saying is let the world get out their knives and dissect. I am not going to sit here and spill any beans. So a couple of points that I would raise, questions. There's a whistleblower who seems to be a primary source in this. I don't know if that person has been in contact with Schellenberger. I don't know if that person... Schellenberger said that he had been in physical contact. So it boils down to one person?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Is there more than that? No, it's not one person. If you had a USAP, there would obviously be a number of people. I would imagine, and I think it has been said publicly, that people can have accidental exposure to a USAP. So I would imagine from there
Starting point is 00:17:37 that this, you're saying, I'm not, that there is a whistleblower. Okay, that may be true. There may be publicly stated that there is a, a human being, a person. I'm not saying male, not saying female, that's in what department,
Starting point is 00:17:52 not saying inside government, not saying contractor. Sure, we can all deduce that from what was reported by Michael Schellenberger. No problem. You're asking me directly, are there more people
Starting point is 00:18:04 that may be able to back up that information? I am telling you directly, and I don't need to tell you that, but I am telling you directly, that yes, there are, but that is not for you or me, to talk about, right?
Starting point is 00:18:18 So it's just like, okay, you've got one person that is public, that obviously has talked with Schellenberger, a person, and that is true information, that is accurate information. Now, we will find out, is this program real? Are there other people involved? I will tell you from my experience, there was knowledge of this program way beyond a whistleblower who ended up going through a very unique process
Starting point is 00:18:46 to get that information. out for sure. It's not a foreign topic to you and me. Are you aware of how much information about this program has been shared with members of Congress? For example, Schellenberger's article has obviously been read on Capitol Hill by a lot of these people, especially the names that we mentioned who are interested in this subject. But are you aware of additional information that has been shared directly with members of Congress and or senior staff members? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yes, I think it is factually and important for me to say that I am directly aware of the totality of this report and information being in person given to certain members. I'm not saying of Congress or Senate, certain members, and that I was present. Oh, you're present? Yeah, I was. So the indictments will be delivered to your house. There's nothing I did wrong. No, no, no, no. I'm just, I don't know if we're going to leave this in the footage, but you're asking me, am I aware of that statement? I saw that statement. Michael Schellemberger
Starting point is 00:19:54 said that members of Congress are made aware. That is 100% true, and I can testify to it under oath in the court of law because I was fucking there. So they're from, according to Michael's article, there is a central whistleblower. According to you, there are more than one source of this information. Yes. According to the two of you, information has been shared with members of Congress. Yes. And it appears for now that this is real, that it's real. That it was it? For now. For now. Yeah. Yeah. And do you have a sense of whether the people on the Hill who have seen this information are motivated or highly interested? Are they asking tough questions? I decline the comment. Let me ask you this. So let's say there's a document
Starting point is 00:20:43 that has been referenced in some reports. Michael Schellenberger has said there's a 20-something page document. Let's say there's a document. I believe that it includes three interesting letters, ARV. So that for me, as a longtime UFO guy, raises red flags, ARV, alien replication vehicle, something like that. Supposedly a vehicle that we have built based on recovered alien technology.
Starting point is 00:21:09 That's been raised in some fairly, questionable corners of euphology over the years. And I can never tell whether that's disinformation, whether it's a red flag, whether it's thrown out as bait. Do you have a sense of how real that is?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Let's be honest with our audience. You have been exposed to the entirety of the document. Is that correct? All right. Yeah, I've said it. Okay. Yeah. So with that said, you have been exposed to the entirety of the report, as they're calling it, right?
Starting point is 00:21:43 From an individual. Yeah. Okay, great. So from that point, let's move forward on two things. From the very get-go, we have been in the know that we have been trying to exploit derivative technologies of UAP. Is that factual from where you're sitting? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:08 We have also heard that we have not made extreme progress, but that could be true, not true, not true, correct? Right. Okay. Do you believe those two statements to be true? Well, yeah, relatively.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah. Relatively? Yeah. I don't know how much progress we made. Yeah, we don't know. Yeah. Okay, we don't know. But those two things we're sure
Starting point is 00:22:26 have happened, right? Yeah. Okay. Then I want you to tell me why you are alarmed by the term ARV, because I'm alarmed by it too, but I just tell me why.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Because of the source where it came from. Where did the source come from? some UFO people who are not entirely trustworthy. Were the first persons ever to mention that term? First persons I ever heard it from. Okay. So that's where we're at a point as journalists where we need to reverse engineer some of these terminologies.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Now, it's possible that terminologies have been used in public spheres and then adopted by military spheres. I grant that. Or even horrible people get good information from time to time is also possible, right? Right. Okay. So I don't know where we're going with this, but my point is, you and I both have red flags based on the totality of the document that we have both consumed, correct? Let's talk about that a little bit because, you know, we have confidentially, we've received indications from people that we know and we trust who suggested there is risk in having this information.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And I think Schellenberger has probably had the same thing. Is that risk real? And what is the risk? What's the nature of it? And now that it's out, how can it possibly, how can anyone hope to quash the story? Okay. I need to crack a beer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Because right now you have now brought up. That's where it was leading. Risk and threats. Yeah. Okay. I'm not cutting this out of the episode. I'm just being honest. Like, let's just take a second.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Because obviously there's a lot. George ain't saying playing dumb right. George is playing dumb right now. I'm a interview. I'm a journalist trying to get information. Somebody who's been very reluctant to cough up this. I feel like I'm being grilled by the FBI, and it's George Knapp.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I don't really understand what's going on. No, just kidding. Okay, so let me just pour my beautiful Kourge light. Trying to keep my slim figure. Okay. If we're going to get into this, I need to like, you are asking me, and I'm sorry, I feel like a robot right now,
Starting point is 00:24:42 but I have been on guard. This is our, this is. our insurance policy right here. Okay. Is there risk in mentioning the name of that program? Is there risk in reporting about it? Is there risk in even knowing information? Is there risk in admitting that you know more that has not been made public yet?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. So I think we just talk, frankly, and then we go from there. Maybe not. No, I think we do record this and then we go from there. So have you had direct, put this way, have you had direct communications with people in the intelligence world whom you trust, who told you, hey, this is red hot, this is really risky, this is dangerous?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, I've been notified of very specific and direct and detailed threats against my life as well. as against anybody who may have information, assets, or contact with additional whistleblowers or individuals who are aware of this program. So much so that I have taking action through law enforcement to make sure that they are aware. And I do, I did not take put a lot lot of stalk in it. And then I called four different people to advise me. And to my shock and awe with actual knowledge of this program prior to it being announced was told for me to take it 100% deadly seriously. And so let's really unpack that for once. I can give me a second to
Starting point is 00:26:51 just say something. That program was outed by an independent journalist. who has nothing to do with me. I've never talked to the guy prior to the release. And I actually haven't talked to him yet on the phone. It was done legally and lawfully, which people will understand, hopefully on November 13th. I know for a fact that if you had talked about that program prior,
Starting point is 00:27:26 that it would ping intelligence services. It is a real use app from what I understand. And the last, point to this is I believe that people need to know that the cover-up of this, they don't
Starting point is 00:27:48 color within the lines and that people's lives are at risk and right now my job that you taught me is to protect sources and witnesses even if they don't protect themselves and you and I
Starting point is 00:28:06 are doing that and we will continue to do it. Do you have in place what you might call a dead switch, a system whereby information about this and other matters that we've collected over the years would be disseminated if something were to happen? I will not mince words. We have had in place for quite some time unrelated to this story of Immaculate Constellation that if you or,
Starting point is 00:28:37 or I are removed from the equation that you have absolute uncontrolled catastrophic disclosure of information that would be dangerous to the United States of America, that would be dangerous to global policy, that would be dangerous in many ways. And it benefits everybody to not fuck with journalists doing their job and sanitizing information prior to the good of public knowledge with no harm to the United States of America putting it out. And so I want to be very clear,
Starting point is 00:29:15 you're putting it on me because we're having a fun little game here. You and I have a dead man switch. And it's not one, it's not two, it's not three, it's not five. Well, well put. Let me ask you at this about the whistleblower, whether or not you want to say on camera
Starting point is 00:29:34 whether you've ever met with this person or know this person or know even the identity of the person, what their state of mind is right now. Now that it's out, the story is known, is somebody looking, I would imagine, somebody is really looking for that person. If there is one person in particular, they got to be scary shitless.
Starting point is 00:29:53 This does not boil down to one person. We have to get that out of everybody's head. It's not true. There is an individual that has been talked about and is a patriot and has been walked into offices and Michael Schellenberger reported on. That is true. That is public. There you go. Other than that,
Starting point is 00:30:11 I am not saying shit. And here's the reason. At this time, if people's names aren't leaked, if information isn't leaked, the world will learn about it on November 13th. There is a way in which the world is 100% no stopping it going to learn about it on November 13th for the congressional hearings.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Now, there's a dramatic way that can happen and in undramatic way. If anybody were to fuck with witnesses or us or anybody involved, it's going to be dramatic. And we don't want that. We want the information out. And if it's the dramatic way, then all of a sudden, other people coming forward to. I never know what to make of threats, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:05 In nature of the business and journalism, you get threats. sometimes all the time. Eat it for breakfast. You know, somebody calls you on the phone and they're going to threaten your life, how serious can it be? If they really want to kill you, do they give you a warning shot in advance?
Starting point is 00:31:22 But there was an interesting little side story with the name of this program. After it came out, some of the detectives on social media. A lot of those folks do some really good work. They do great work. They dig into looking for Google searches for that term.
Starting point is 00:31:38 of where it's popped up before. Yeah. And it popped up when Dave Grush came forward. When he gave his testimony, suddenly the name of this immaculate program, there's a spike. Immaculate Constellation. Yeah, Immaculate Constellation. There's a spike in Google requests under that term. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Which is weird because Grush didn't mention it. No, he didn't. But if I was sitting at right, Pat, I would be worried what that dude was going to say. And if you recall, we had to make sure that Chuck McCullough, former inspector general of the intelligence community, the first ever inspector general of the intelligence community. And for people that don't know, inspector general is like the police of the intelligence community.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So big baller Chuck McCullough. We know him. We know him very well. Yeah. So he was the lawyer to David Grush. And I remember this moment where I had to get very socially awkward, my wife said, where I had to be like, get out the way, get the fuck out the way, although I did it kindly. because Chuck McCullough needed to sit behind David Gresh so he could do what he did over and over,
Starting point is 00:32:45 which is lean in and say, careful, careful, because everybody is looking for David Grush to speak outside of his dopser or his pre-publication agreement. I actually have been infiltrated by OSI, NSA, people from different agencies, trying to get me to falsely say that in my conversations with David Grush, because he came to you and me first, by leaning in, I got that point on film,
Starting point is 00:33:18 that he has ever said anything outside of his pre-publication, which he hasn't, and they keep trying to get me and others to say he has. So Chuck McCullough needed to sit behind him because in the live moment, you know how it is, you're in a live moment, you're excited, you're scared or maybe you're just amped up and you just, what are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:33:39 And I remember hearing Chuck lean in real quiet. Like he's a baller. Chuck McCullough, he is a gangster, man. He'd just lean and be like, careful, dang. Yeah, I know. Careful. Do you mind that? We were on the two sides of them.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It was amazing. What a guy, we'd be lucky to have a lawyer like that. I mean, that guy is just a... He's probably too expensive for us, but he's a baller. So check it out. This guy sitting behind Grush, leaning in it and saying, So the big picture is this. If I recall your kind of point, what you were saying.
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Starting point is 00:34:54 Everything happens for a recess. Right now, it's very real, and people don't understand that. There is a program. The government has hid from Senate, from Congress, from the gang of eight. It's called Immaculate Constellation, and by the fucking way. That's just top of the pyramid, big piece of the pie chart. There's more up there, and there's a lot of constellations below. So I just want to say that that is a tiny thing.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We are just talking about it right now because it's public, but there's a much bigger story to tell. That program primarily involved with gathering imagery. Not in the hands-on, let's say you had hardware trying to take it apart, figure it out, rebuild something. That would be something else. That would be something else that would absolutely have a different name, be a different task program with a different, what they call bigot list of people that were read. And let's shoot back to the Wilson Davis memo because, You know it's real and you know that Eric Davis spoke with Admiral Wilson. And Admiral Wilson said he'd always deny that that was true.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And to this day, he denies it. Where did we give that publicly and vouch for it? That was to our pal, Joe Rogan. If you go all the way back, root and rewind. We talked to him about it. I think I started. I think when I was on with Lazare back in 2018, I could get that wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I have a bad memory. But I made sure to throw down and say, that was real, the Wilson Davis memo. It was at a time when it was being questioned if it was real or not. We all know kind of now it was real. It is real. And will you please just finally tell people
Starting point is 00:36:37 that that is an actual conversation that happened? It's real. Yes, it is. Eric Davis met with Admiral Thomas Wilson. Had that conversation, it's real. It's called the Wilson memo. You can look it up. Admiral Wilson met with a scientist
Starting point is 00:36:51 who's actually was featured in one of my films. Everybody has been debating whether or not this document of a conversation with a sitting admiral at the time is a real document. It's an actual conversation that happened and this document is really. Everybody wants to know the world that's going crazy right now in the UFO world.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I'll tell you, straight up right now, I'm in the position to know, and it is a real document that it is real. Admiral Thomas Wilson is lying like he said he would. It's his job. It's his job. He's supposed to do that. Good for him. Protect national security.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But it's true. Okay. So anyway, I don't know where I'm going with that, but basically here's the point. On November 13th, I don't pick who's going to be there. That's the big ball. There's like the chair, like Nancy Mace, who's a gunslinger. I like her, right? Yeah, he's tough.
Starting point is 00:37:42 And I think that no matter who's testifying, it is the right thing. It is the right thing. Here's the thing. It's all a bunch of nonsense because Elon Musk said he came out this week and told Tucker Carlson, all these UFOs are advanced secret U.S. technology. There it is. It's all out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Okay. Elon should know, right? Okay. So, no, no, dude, look, I believe him when he says if he got evidence of aliens, he would put it out on Twitter. I fucking believe him. I believe him. He is so wild. I believe him.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And God bless that. You know, if you get evidence of aliens, like a perfect photo from your satellites, put it out. I think I believe him that he would do that. I don't believe for one fucking second that he is not more curious. And I'm not going to say anymore, but I believe for one thing. That seemed like gaslighting to me that he was saying this is all all this stuff. The pilots are seeing advanced. Well, my comment to him on X was, okay, well, great.
Starting point is 00:38:44 That's great news. Oh, you're right in? Yeah. Look at you. You say, great. That's great news. That's our technology. So when are we going to release that 2004 nifty Tick-Tac technology?
Starting point is 00:38:53 That'd be really kind of convenient to have that, wouldn't it? It's 20 years. 20 years coming up. Yeah. So it's an argument that is so, you're not in a position to know if you say, maybe you're right. Maybe it's gasoline people. Anyway, let me recall something for everybody.
Starting point is 00:39:12 When we walked in to talk with Joe, I think it was the last time we were on, it was you and me. I was ready to talk with him about how long the UFO thing has been going on, why this is not just our tech. I was like thinking all these things, man, I've heard him say some things saying that he thinks it's just our stuff. Look, there might be fuckery and the UFO, you know, kind of disclosure thing going on for sure. There might be fuckery. You and I are like worried about fuckery. However, I was going to go at him with like, hey, here's the reasons why this is just not our attack. I think it was almost opening line after he said one thing about us
Starting point is 00:39:49 being the swash bucklers or the pioneers or the three musketeers or something of UFO disclosure I don't remember what he said but he shocked me I think it was when we were together it might have been on the time when I was before he says something like this can't be all ours
Starting point is 00:40:02 because it's been here a long time it's like he read my fucking mind so your point is the UFO thing has been going on a long time let me just remind people about Edward Snowden and I'm not making any opinion on what he did or the morality of it, but here is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:40:17 He did say that he found no evidence of UFOs in this huge data leak of uncontrolled information. Well, if he had access, he would have found out about the program you reported on called OSAP, Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program, and he didn't, which means not all archives are equal, right? It's siloed.
Starting point is 00:40:42 There we go. I would just put it this way, with Elon Musk, giving him the benefit of the doubt. Let's put him in a category. He has billions of dollars worth of contracts with the Department of Defense, with NASA. Let's say he's on a par with Admiral Wilson and he knows stuff and is required to lie about it. You know, just food for thought. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I don't know. I have no, but I will tell you this, that I know 100% sure about Elon Musk. he makes the coolest motherfucking UFO on planet Earth. I have a cyber truck. I got a cyber truck. The first in my county, it's the craziest thing. I've had it almost a year.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I'm on auto drive now. You were driving it today. You push a button and you monitor. You make sure it doesn't crash. Holy shit, that dude can make cars because that thing is so fucking wild. Seems like an odd route. You know where you're going, Jeremy?
Starting point is 00:41:40 No. I have no. My name is Jeremy Corbell. I have no idea where we're going because I'm not fucking driving. And I think we're going to a kill spot for the CIA, a wet work spot because there's a car tailing us. And I'm not driving. And I've never gone this way in my life. Oh, it's good.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It's putting it's putting on a right turn signal. Fucking future. So look, November 13th, the congressional hearing is going to happen. And as we mentioned at the start of this conversation, the members of the committee, they're going to be asking questions that day. They've got a lot on their plate right now because the hurricane damage, the election. But after the election, they can refocus on this. And I think they're going to ask some really good questions on that day and make some progress, I hope. I would just add one more thing.
Starting point is 00:42:41 There's some project that you and I have been involved with for a while that has not been mentioned at all. It's a Netflix series, and it's going to be an announcement's coming out in the next day or so. It's something I've been working on for 16 months, which is why I missed some weaponized episodes from coast to coast. A lot of stories for Kali Us, but it's finally going to be coming out. It's a multi-part series. It is currently being edited and translated into 124 languages. They're supposed to have a trailer that's coming out tomorrow at the time of recording this. and if it exists
Starting point is 00:43:17 or we have a copy of it, we'll run it right here. Fucking mic drop? Crack the fucking microphone open. Did George Knapp just admit his secret project for over a year unweaponized? I did. Oh! Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:32 You are admitting now, finally. So we're going to see some of your investigative journey current modern day. Is there anything you can tell me right now that you saw captured anything weird? Yeah, a UFO that becomes a U.S. So that's pretty spectacular stuff. Now, I've shared that with you.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You've seen it, and it's pretty cool. And then Colaris comes to mind. Mexico, Tampico, a lot of pretty cool stuff. Hopefully, we'll be able to share a lot more on the next episode of Weaponized. It was a lot of work went into this, a lot of travel, a lot of miles, and hopeful that it's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:44:12 So now we can say why we've only been doing a Weaponized about once a month, and now we're starting to speed up, and you can expect more from us. I want to say something about November 13th, but I do want to finish with this, which is that we have been throwing down as hard as we could with weaponized for an entire year. And then this year, we've been doing it like about once a month
Starting point is 00:44:31 or a little bit more, and now we're going to ramp up, and I hope we get to keep doing this together. It's so fun because I have a sense that we have barely, barely scraped the surface of what you and I can report on visually to the public. Immaculate constellation is the beginning of a lot more to come. Oh, shit. Did you just get the Netflix trailer, texted to your phone?
Starting point is 00:44:56 I did. So this is before it comes out a day. Yeah. Okay, I hope you like it. All right, November 13th, here we are. Okay. I want to talk about this real quick. There are bright-minded, really smart people that are motivated and honest brokers of information.
Starting point is 00:45:11 They understand the need to protect sources, witnesses, and journalists. And they also, I believe, are fighting for the cause of true transparency to the American public and just straight up from the names you've already said, the people, from Nancy Mace who's chairing it, from our friend
Starting point is 00:45:27 Tim Burchett, from Representative Luna, you know, everybody is really looking to do the best they can. This is going to be a powerful hearing, fingers crossed, but we need to, before November 13th, we need to protect
Starting point is 00:45:44 We need to protect witnesses. And I will say we have to protect journalists. Including Schellenberger, who said that story. Yeah, he's probably, there's a bull's eye on him right now.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Straight up, there is. And, you know, I know there are a lot of folks who are calling Congress, calling their elected representatives to gripe and moan and share their opinions about this or that right now leading up to the election. Keep in mind after the election, too, to let these folks know on this congressional
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Starting point is 00:47:30 You are what we would classify as a whistleblower. Yes, that would be exactly what I am. I want to be able to share this with the world. How can we help you break this story? There is enormous amount of evidence to suggest, that we do have a non-human intelligence interacting with us on this planet. We need to get beyond that obvious question, are UFOs real?
Starting point is 00:47:51 For what really matters? Why are they here? And what are they want from us? We can handle it, can't we? My name is George Knapp. People know me as the UFO reporter. Last year, the Pentagon debuted Arrow to investigate the UFOs. Arrow has found no evidence.
Starting point is 00:48:07 If they would go to such lengths to discredit this topic, it tells us we're going to have to do it ourselves. We need solid evidence and we need it now. We had some pretty dramatic UFO encounters all over the world. How something weird happened to those bulls. What happened at Phoenix was seen by thousands of people. Federal agents were confiscated videos afterwards. They said, far as you're concerned, lieutenant, it never happened.
Starting point is 00:48:36 We are not alone. The technology that we faced was far as far as far as far. was far secure than anything we had. We've seen a looser around the lancha. There will be some information that's going to be put out. They will shock the world. The more we can bring out of the shadows,
Starting point is 00:48:54 the closer we get to the answers. Boom, hell, give me a high five. We're done. Never has so few. Had so much to tell, but could say so little.

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