Wednesdays - 106. CHECK YOUR B**BS, GIRLS!

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Hey Tinies!  It’s Breast Cancer Awareness Month and this year, we’ve teamed up with CoppaFeel! and Candy Kittens to share an important message: get to know your boobs. We’re joined by ...the incredible Robyn who was diagnosed with breast cancer at just 25. She shares her powerful story and reminds us why checking your chest could save your life.   Also this week, Sophie’s thrilled that Autumn is finally here and she can ditch her summer clothes, stay indoors and watch Vampire Diaries all night long. The only thing putting a stop to that is a HUGE leak in her new kitchen. Meanwhile, Melissa’s in her walking era and she’s loving it.   Plus, we chat about secret situationships and the tricky grey area of dating. The girls share their advice to help a Tiny who’s had a secret fling with her gym instructor that fizzled out but now, she’s wondering if it’s worth giving it another go.   And another listener is struggling with her flatmate’s boyfriend who’s making himself WAY too comfortable in their house. Is it time for an intervention?  Enjoy the episode x   CoppaFeel!'s Self-Checkout has lots of simple tips and step-by-step tools to help you get to know your chest and what’s normal for you. Got a dilemma, some personal advice for a fellow Tiny, or a follow-up to a previous one? Send us a voice note or message on Insta @wednesdayspodcast, or drop us an email at wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Executive Producer: Jemima RathboneProducer: Helen BurkeAssistant Producer: Rhoda AbrokwaVideo Editor: Josh BennettSocial: Laura Coughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everyone. It's Jamie Lang here. Now, can I just grab you for just one second to tell you about my podcast, Great Company? It's out every Wednesday and I'm joined by someone I really admire for a great conversation. It's a space to share, to be inspired, to learn, to be moved, to even laugh. There are so many things that I get from it. And there are no gimmicks. It's just me, great guests and you. You are the most important person, you, the listener. Listen and subscribe to Great Company with me, Jamie Lang. New episodes out every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, Tiny's coming up on today's episode, we talk about autumn and how we're absolutely, well, we're thrilled. We're quite excited about it, aren't we? We talk about your leak in the kitchen. Oh, she's got a huge leak in the kitchen and the renovated house is absolutely 10 out 10. And we have Robin, who is a breast cancer survivor. She got diagnosed at 25 and she is coming on to tell her story.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Hello listeners. Hi, guys. Oh my God, your socks are giving school. You know, when you wore them. And the shoes, the Clark shoes would stain the white socks. Yeah, that happens with the old Birkenstocks. Oh my God, the black burks around. Which, by the way, guys, I walk so far.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I've done 20,000 steps today or something crazy. No, you haven't. So I walk from mine to Chelsea Green. which was like a 40 minute walk, 35 minute wall. Yeah. That's quite a lot of steps. Then I went from Chelsea Green to Children Street, which was like a 45 minute walk.
Starting point is 00:01:38 And I was like so fun, it was quite a nice day to do actually. You've done 20,000. Well, look at you all right. 630 steps, is that it? 1,600 or 6. No, 630. That's not right. No, that's not right. Well, what's going on then?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Oh, sometimes mine doesn't do. No, you'll stink an ad. You obviously turned off Bluetooth. Oh, it's. off let's just wait for it to connect people everybody calm down right listen this is what happens when you have an aura ring they aren't very good though i will say they're amazing they are so good but they're not very good for um third trimester because i get minor signs all day long and i'm like babe i know i'm like what do you want you to do you put in there that you're pregnant it's saying
Starting point is 00:02:18 i had a nap yesterday and i didn't mine always says that Melissa detected and i'm like i just sat down mine always says that and i always think god is that how low my heart rate is when i sit down I also don't want to alarm anyone, but do you remember I told you what my resting heart weight was? Yes, guys, just listen to this wrestling heart weight. Oh no, I've done 15,729 stats today. That's unbelievable. In my books and they are the most comfortable shoes I ever walk in. Bergensox, I swear to go out with me for your feet.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They were made for your feet. They're not very comfy for me. They give me a little bit of the blister and so do an arc. But on that no, I'm so thrilled. I feel so content that autumn is here, and I've never been that girl. I've always honored summer. I used to actually get pure depression when summer was over. and I'm now Molly May.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Because we had a good summer, that's why. We had a good full summer last year. We were given like two days. You are so right. We had, guys, we had an amazing summer. This was like 19, my mom always goes, she goes, it was a summer like 19th, the 70s. And I'm like, what summer?
Starting point is 00:03:14 She literally says it every time. And I'm like, was there a really fucking hot summer in 70s? I think the hottest day of the year was like back in the day. It's also like warm in autumn. Like I'm, I don't know if it's because I'm pregnant, but I am sweltering walking around. It is hot. So what I did yesterday is I was like trying to walk to where was I walking to of High Street
Starting point is 00:03:33 Ken and I had to make a detour to my gym to use the locker rooms to take off my clothes like my jumpers. No no no no we don't talk about that here that's very Jamie like I needed to take off the jumper and I was like I can't I'm so nearly there and I was so proud of myself because I'm not doing much exercise at the moment so I was like just come on you can do it and I was really enjoying the walk and I was like got to whip off this jumper and I've just realise it's still in the locker room. Well, okay, well, we've got to go back and get that then. I must go back and get that.
Starting point is 00:04:02 But I'm loving audit. It's very Gilmore girls. Oh, I do have something to tell you. So a big old leak in the kitchen. Huge. I kept seeing it bubbling away under like, you know, it's like paneled the kitchen ceiling. Yes. I was like, what is that?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Anyway, the plumber came. He was like nothing there. A week later, it's like double-sized. I'm like, there's something there. Anyway, come home. There's drilled whole. holes everywhere in this evening because they're trying to find the league. Can I just say? It's just a nightmare. Doing a house for I know, it's like you move in and you're like six
Starting point is 00:04:36 sweet, lovely, like this is all worth it. And then it's just constant to do still because like this isn't done, this isn't done. And like, and then they darty the walls. I know. I'm like, every wall is filthy. And I'm like, what do you, what do you do about that? Did you repaint or just leave it? They came and repainted after I think eight months because it's called like. Snagging? No. Yeah, you have snagging, obviously, after the build. But then it's like settlement cracks happen.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So then they have to redecorate and repaint certain things. And how did you keep track? You just kept a note of everything. And then in eight months, you're like, let's book it in this day. So the amount of PDF things I had to make with photos and notes and arrows, it's a nightmare. It's a bloody nightmare. I mean, you know, in my house, they put the wrong tiles and the wrong bathroom.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And I came in and I was like, my bathroom was meant to be like a wet room. so like my whole bathroom was meant to be completely tired into the shower. And I was doing shower trays in the spare room upstairs because it was like slightly cheaper to not tile it because you didn't have to do like the tanking underneath. They'd fucking got it the wrong way around. So I've got the shower tray and the upstairs has got the tiled thing all the way in. You didn't say you've got to change it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And they were like, well, I needed to move in. Just shit like that happens. I just can't believe you did all of that and you weren't really telling me about it. Because you just didn't understand. It was also the year of my wedding. It was just like, no. No one cares. No one cares.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Like what am I going to do? Everyone's like, oh yeah, sounds really stressful. You're renovating your lovely house. It's just like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's just easy not to talk about it. Right, I just need to talk about one makeup product that I was sent. So Merritt are really sweet in there. I'm on the PR list.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So I get bits of bobs. But sometimes, I don't know, sometimes they send too many colors and I'm like, no, not me. And I was like, okay, this looks like a bit almost like an eyeliner. Like, it's like properly brown. But then the colour on the end here is like more of a maroon. And I was like, I'll give it a go. And it's like a contour for one's lips. And I think this is like a really lovely universal color, actually, in a color called archival. And if you want to kiss my baby with that, you can because it's toxic-free. It's toxin-free, guys. All the merit stuff is toxin free.
Starting point is 00:06:41 But also, I've got red nails. Sorry, that's irrelevant to the face-mead. I've got red nails. How fun. Sorry, do you remember when I got that exact color for New York? And you were like, no. You were like, we could have gone for a maroon. But it doesn't. No, no, it was brighter than this. It was like paler. It was, but I really, weirdly, can I tell you? When I got to New York, I was like, best now that I've ever had. I remember you saying that. I was like, just made every outfit. I think you messaged me, like, I think I was like, the New York pics are so cool and she's
Starting point is 00:07:06 like, it's the nails. I'm like, the nails are like this much in the photo. I, they just brought something. And you know what it is? You don't feel like you have to fake tan when you have. Why is that? Because it kind of looks nice, like, against the pale. It's like giving winter.
Starting point is 00:07:23 My hands are quite brown. They are, you are really brown. I can't even bear it. I'm going to go away and just have another week in Corfu and I can't wait. No, you're not. Why? Toby's family holiday in Corfu. God, this girl's been away the whole family guys. I can't breathe with the amount of holidays you've had. I'm ready to just be at home for a bit. This is the most you've ever got away. It's all the weddings. Right, so Corfu is that the whole family going? Yeah. What we can go in? Including babies. When? Um, on Sunday we leave. Oh, fuck. I thought maybe you'd go because I'm going to Paris and last week of October, and I was like, maybe we'll coincide that we're away.
Starting point is 00:07:58 How lovely. But only three days. Is this for a movie meeting, such a year? Oh my God, sweet. I know. Quite a funny place to go, really, but I thought... It's nice. It's close.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It's nice than I can just stroll. And I know you can just eat and go home, whereas, like, the heat and everything. It's just not what I really want right now. I do get that. So, where did you get those last down? So I go to Sochelle now. Oh, yeah. There's one on the Phyllum Road.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I believe there's one in Notting Hill. I'm not sure. There's one somewhere else. Bathsey. That's it. They're so good and they're so quick. I'm in an hour and a half max for feet and hands. Maybe just an hour actually.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Wait, listen, do they do them at the same time? Shit, I need to make the time. Feet you're in the bowl. I'm here. I'm in a little private room. It's done. The girls are quick. What do you mean in a private room?
Starting point is 00:08:42 I don't know. It's like a sort of room off the side. Okay, listen, this is really, this is what I've been telling you. Townhouse, which we love, but it's five hours. It's a long time. It's two and a half hours to you. I would say it's a very love. luxurious experience townhouse.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I mean, if you enjoy getting your nails on, it's great. But so, Shell, I mean, I've never seen a more immaculate manicure. No, nor have I. It's just, they are so thorough. I have been saying this. Beyond thorough. And you know what? They used to, like, cut all the skin, which I don't like, you know, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I feel like over time, and I just said, can you not do it this time? They also do give you gloves to put in the little, like, things. Your hands aren't getting the UV damage from the light. Hello, it's Ukrainian manicure, as now. Yes. That's so good. Okay, guys. So for the next part of the episode, we're going to have Robin on from Copperfield's
Starting point is 00:09:27 Feelings campaign to help us raise some awareness for breast cancer amongst young people. Well, breast cancer in general, but Robin is 25, well, she's 26 now. She was 25 when she got diagnosed. And like any of us and like any of you, tiny, she's just a normal, healthy girl. And we thought, who better to get on to talk about her story and spread awareness and spread the message and get us all to check our booth. because both Melissa and I know that we don't do it enough and we love you guys so much and we really feel strongly about this message and we really want to spread it to you guys,
Starting point is 00:09:59 to your friends, to all of us and who better than Robin, who's just an inspiration. And so we really hope you enjoyed this episode as much as we did. Robin, we're so excited to help you. Thank you so much for coming on. No, of course. Very excited. Thank you for having me. And you're obviously part of the Copperfield's Brilliant Feeding's campaign
Starting point is 00:10:24 where you talk about your cancer diagnosis. Yeah. And we want to talk about all of those things. But just for the listeners, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Yeah, of course. So I'm Robin. I'm 26 now. I was 25 when I was diagnosed.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I was diagnosed last August with stage one to have positive breast cancer. Complete shock. Found the lump myself. And yeah, I've been going through treatments. since. But yeah, here I am now. But it's been a lot, obviously. There's a lot to it. But I feel like the biggest thing that has taught me, and I know that we'll get into all of this and everything, but I just, I know how strong I am now, which is the biggest thing. So strong. So, it's so inspiration. I mean, it's an insane story. So when you first, I guess, discovered
Starting point is 00:11:13 the lump, were you doing like regular checks on yourself? Honestly, no. Like I would check, but not as often as you should. So like you're supposed to check obviously month to month so you understand like what's normal for you and everything but for me I would check because lumps are something that's
Starting point is 00:11:30 quite familiar to me. So I was aware of that and honestly it was just like one running Sunday I got out of the shower and I was like you know what I'm going to check because I haven't checked for a while and I found a new lump and it didn't feel any different
Starting point is 00:11:43 than like other lumps I've had so like I've had other lumps before and they were benign. Okay. And they're quite common actually. There's something called like fibroidinomas. But this one, the reason why I got it checked is because it was just new. Like it didn't feel super different or anything.
Starting point is 00:11:58 But I literally just went to the doctors the next day. And yeah, got it checked from there. And then it sort of snowballed. That must have been so scary. Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, like to start with, I didn't, I really didn't suspect or think anything of it. Like, because I had lumps before. I just very much was like, oh, okay, it's new.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'm not going to take any risk. going to go to the doctors the next day and even the nurse I saw first off she was like oh I'm not concerned but I never take any chances so I'm going to send you for a two week scan just to be sure like an express referral which is pretty standard in the UK
Starting point is 00:12:33 and then literally two weeks later I had an ultrasound at the hospital at the breast clinic it was actually like normal day like nothing I really didn't think anything of it my mum was with me we were chatting in the waiting room like with the other ladies like I really just didn't even sort of think that it would be anything at this point and then had my ultrasound um and yeah i was in there for like 45 minutes and they don't let you know at that moment but i kind of got a vibe from there
Starting point is 00:13:00 yeah god that must have been so scary have you ever had it in your family like was there any part of your brain that thought like maybe this is in my genetics or yeah i mean obviously it's not common like to have it this young um i don't have a huge family history like my auntie has had breast cancer and my dad also had cancer when he was younger but not breast um but when i told that to my oncologist they they don't see that as a strong family history so obviously i did go through all like genetic testing and everything to make sure but there's and there's no genetics that explain any of it um but yeah like instantly your mind obviously does go there like where is this come from yeah and you're so young i guess when you were going for the things it probably never really
Starting point is 00:13:40 crossed your mind like surely this is not going to happen yeah to me but i feel like like it does from what I understand happen to people younger more than we think actually doesn't yeah it's so common and honestly like I I mean like before any of it I just sort of was like oh it's not going to be anything because I'm 25 you know it's not not going to be diagnosed I'm not old enough or anything like that but what I've learned since this is actually like it's so much more common than you think like cancer in general not just breast and yeah like that's why that when I talk about it I talk about it openly and normally and because a lot of people to start with are like oh you're so open about it and you're
Starting point is 00:14:19 so like you're not worried about talking about it I was like honestly no because it's like it's my normal at this point and the more we speak about it like it's a normal thing the more that people are going to be aware and the more that it's going to become less of a taboo and thank god for you obviously knowing to check on that Sunday and hopefully like this is going to you know encourage all of us to check yeah it's monthly as well because Catching it stage one is obviously the most, like the best time, yes, to catch something. So, Robert, do you mind asking me, like, from that moment of finding out when you were with your mum, like, what was the process until where you are now? Yeah, of course. So from my ultrasound that I had, I had biopsies in that appointment as well. So they took some samples from the lump that I found. Also, they found some other lumps that I couldn't fill myself.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So ones that they could see it on the scan, but not that I would, that you don't. be able to feel. So it took biopsies and then they said to me, you know, it's unlikely you're going to hear from us within a week, like it might be longer than a week because we have a really big meeting on a Wednesday where we discuss all of the results and appointments that have happened from the week previously. And this was on a Friday. So I was thinking, okay, I can just forget about it now. I'm sure like they'll ring me when it's time like in a week or so. And probably like those days, although I tried my best to forget about it, I actually let after the appointment feeling scared because there was a vibe and energy that although the nurses
Starting point is 00:15:50 did an amazing job but like not letting anything on and reassuring me, I just sensed that something wasn't quite right. And I could see myself on the screen that the lump that I had found looked different than my other benign lumps. Okay. So obviously with all that information and like that sort of end, I was left with that kind of energy where, okay, like I feel like something's not right but I've not directly been told anything and I just have to wait for my results like those that's tough yeah and those days honestly I would just I would say they were worse for me than the day that I found out that I had cancer because I was catastrophizing like I was imagining like worst case scenario like it wasn't going to be treatable or incurable like you know when you hear like
Starting point is 00:16:35 of really tragic cases I was really scared of that and then I did get a call on the Wednesday and that sort of enhanced that even more because they had said to me you're not going to hear from us for like over a week and they were like, and like blessed to now she was like I've been asked to make you an urgent appointment and I was like okay it's not great news then is it
Starting point is 00:16:56 and she was like can you come in at 2 o'clock and this was at like 11 o'clock and like instantly I was like you know like fear just took my body like I've never experienced it like that and I went in and my mum my fiance and my sister were with me and then I got my diagnosis
Starting point is 00:17:12 but honestly like I can laugh about it now but obviously at the time it was a lot because I they had to wheel me into the room because I actually just couldn't like move because like my body had like completely tensed up with fear so it was a lot that day
Starting point is 00:17:28 but honestly like the minute I they told me that it's stage one it's very treatable and I'm going to be fine like the fear just sort of drained out of me obviously it was a lot it was a huge shock to process at all but I was so worried and like I don't do well, not in control. So like having that uncertainty was like just not good for me.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So once I knew what I was dealing with, I felt a lot better. And then literally I just took like a few days to process it all. And then obviously then like the cycle of appointments then comes. And like all of a sudden it's like I mean I was planning my wedding at the time. Like I was due to get married in March. This was in August. And then initially they said to me like, oh, we think that a bit of surgery, a bit of radiotherapy,
Starting point is 00:18:13 and we think that will be fine. So I was thinking, okay, it's a lot of news, it's big news, but you know what? Like it sounds like it's going to be dealt with pretty quickly. And then I got my receptor results back. So what that means is like each tumor responds to something different. So mine being triple positive, it means it's extremely hormone receptive. So it's fed by estrogen, progestion, and also like that I'm her two positive,
Starting point is 00:18:38 which is an extra protein. as well so that means that I would benefit from having chemotherapy so initially they said no chemo like pretty you know quick couple of months um and then yeah actually then they said we actually think you should have chemo first you're going to have six rounds every three weeks that took me to about five or six months so I was thinking okay wedding's got be postponed then and so I did that I lost my hair and probably was literally one of the hardest things I've ever done. Super intense side effects, you know, like extreme nausea and like honestly emotionally as well it's tough because it just, I don't like feeling.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I mean, nobody likes feeling well, but I really don't do well, not feeling normal, I would say. So, yeah, like it was a lot to navigate in that sense. Couldn't eat anything. Felt extremely weak. Like you just feel so whacked and out of sorts. And I had two different types of drugs. So three rounds of one, three rounds of the other. So I had to adapt to those as well.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And then after that, then had a meeting again with the oncologist. And they said initially I was meant to have seven rounds of chemo, but then they were like, you've done 100% dosage of all of it. We don't need the seventh. So I was like, yes. You know, in that moment, I was like, oh my God, amazing. And then it was surgery. So then I had a lumpectomy.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So they just removed the lump and they tested also a lymph. node so like they did a biopsy of one of my lymph nodes because thankfully my cancer hadn't spread anywhere and then after surgery they said we've we've taken the lump and the margins are clear like it was a successful surgery your lymph nodes are clear and she was like but there's a butt and I was like okay what's the butt and she was like unfortunately you didn't have something called a complete pathological response so what and what that meant is that the chemo that I had although it was effective and it killed and shrunk my lump as it was meant to, I still had a really small bit of active cancer left over in surgery.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So because of that, they could only be like sort of 90% sure that they got it all out and no like small cells leaked anywhere. So then she said, so because of that, she said, we think it's in your best interest to do another 14 cycles of cadcyl. what it's called, which is like low-dose chemo and targeted therapy. So I'm now on cycle 5 out of 14 of that. That's where you are now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:16 But the cancer is gone. I'm cancer free. I'm so happy for you. Thank you. Thank you. When did you find that out? Well, I found that out at that appointment where she was like, there's a butt. So I kind of felt a bit sad really because it is preventative.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Okay. Yeah, so it's all preventative. I call it like my little insurance policy to make sure it doesn't come back again. But honestly, like, I kind of feel like I didn't have that cancer-free moment because it was shadowed by them saying, oh, you know, you didn't have a complete response. So you need to do another 14 cycles. No, but you did. And you're going to have it even double the noun. Can I just say you are so brave and so amazing and you look so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And I'm just so happy that it went that way for you. It is incredible. Yeah. And how is what you're going through now? It's okay. I mean, like, at the time, like, when they told me that I need to do another 14 cycles, I was envisaging that it was going to be exactly the same as before. So, like, super intense. Like, I worked remotely for six months. I didn't go out. I didn't do anything because your immune system is so weak. Yeah. So I was honestly really worried that I was like, oh my God, how am I going to shut myself away for like even longer this time? Or, you know, like to have half a life in some way because, you know, I missed out on a lot in that time and to do it for even more cycles. Yeah, exactly. So in that moment, that was probably one of the hardest moments for me because I really was like getting ready to shut the door, throw away the key. Like, we're done. And then they were like, actually, you know, and I know that they're only dealing with what they've got and the facts that they have at the time. But yeah, so it's a lot. But thankfully, the treatment I'm having is much more manageable. Doesn't like hurt your immune system the same way as the others. And I'm able to just like carry on as normal. Do you think obviously you said earlier that it's made you so much stronger? Yeah. And my gosh. God, you're so strong.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Thank you. Do you think it's like changed your whole perspective on life? Completely. Yeah, completely changed it. Like I always say, and like some people think I'm crazy for saying this, but like, obviously I hate that this happened to me. Don't be wrong. Like I'm not sitting here and saying I'm thankful for it because I'm absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I really don't. I wish that nobody would ever have to go through this. But what I am grateful for is the new perspective and the lessons that it gives you because honestly, like I just have so much more. gratitude now and appreciation for like small moments like walking the dog or having like a really nice coffee do you know what I mean like those are the moments that we all take for granted so much and then you go through something like this and you're like wow okay actually do you know what like every day is blessing and we actually have nothing without our health so yeah like I've definitely
Starting point is 00:23:57 like the new perspective is blessing and it makes you make better choices for me anyway it has definitely. And you've been able to raise so much awareness and inspire other girls and also I guess provide a lot of comfort to girls that are going through the same thing because as we know it is quite common. So to have someone as like a role model and someone be like, oh, you know, you've been through it and you're out the other side and you're doing well. It's like so comforting for them. Yeah. Because I don't know if there are many people your age that do speak about it. Yeah. I mean to be honest, like that was one of the reasons why I started posting on TikTok about it because like when I was diagnosed like I'd heard of people in
Starting point is 00:24:37 their 30s or their 40s but I'd not heard of anybody at 25 or even in their 20s or you know because I searched on TikTok I searched on Instagram I was like is there anyone that's going through this and I just I couldn't find anyone so it brings me a lot of like comfort to think that okay like this is really shit that this has happened to me but actually for me to be that person for someone else really means a lot to me and it's because I know that like I was in that situation once and I would have really welcomed that and also it makes me feel less alone too like it's not just about me like helping other people it's about what it does for me too to know that actually it's it's not just me and there's other people that are experiencing the same feelings and
Starting point is 00:25:17 hardships and stuff so and think about you know obviously you're working with copperfield and spreading this message like you are saving people like you like I don't check enough Like even me just listening, I'm like, wow. It really hits home to make sure that we will. Yeah, exactly. It does. Yeah, no, for sure. And like, I love copephyl and like everything that they stand for.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And I think that like it's really refreshing their approach to it because, you know, it's, it's something that can be a taboo topic and people were scared the minute you say cancer. It's like, oh my God, you know, like, and it is scary, but it's also real. And we spend so much time on social media. We spend so much time online. and even just following Copperfield and like having their like top tips or like about the self-checkout and getting text reminders like knowing how to do that and having that information be so accessible is like game changing really because you know like even if like you say you're not it's not forefront of mind
Starting point is 00:26:17 when you're in your 20s you know you've got so much going on and it's like oh I should check myself but actually I need to do that or yeah I'll do it later so for those messages and like tips and everything to pop up just on your feed while you're scrolling or anything, I think is really powerful. It is. 100% and we're so grateful for you to come on. And our listeners, I'm sure, like, I know I needed to hear it. And also you're just such an inspiration and so brave and so strong.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I'm so happy that you've had this result. And I can't wait to hear what happens next. Are you planning your wedding still? I'm getting married in November. Oh, my God. No way. So soon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So soon. I'm on. Yeah, as in like the 20th of November in like 12 weeks. Do we have the dress? Yes, I do. I have the dress. Yeah. So, I mean, kind of the good thing was that because when I got diagnosed, I was like five, six months out, we'd done like the majority of the planning. Right. So I didn't have to worry about it while I was going through all my treatment, which is kind of a good thing. But honestly, it's been like such a light at the end of the tunnel for all of this because I was kind of really put out that I had to postpone it and I was like really not happy about it. But then actually, I was like, no, I want this day to be special and I want to feel my best and I want to,
Starting point is 00:27:33 this was obviously before we knew I was going to have to have preventative treatment, but anyway, like I want it to be like a day that we have where it's not clouded by all of this intense chemo or surgery approaching or, you know, like still recovering. So, yeah, I'm absolutely buzzing for it. I've got my dress. We've planned it all. So I'm buzzing. And also because you said, like what you've been through has made you appreciate everything
Starting point is 00:27:56 and all the little things. you're really going to walk down that island, appreciate every single part of that day. Oh, I'm so happy for you. Please send us photos. Yeah, I would love to see. I need to see that update. I was so exciting. And thank you so, so much for coming on and telling your story.
Starting point is 00:28:15 You're so brave. You're an inspiration. Thank you, really. And you've spoke some serious words of Western. I'm going home with a lot to think about, a lot to think about. And you're saying for some dilemmas. Yes. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Okay, great. Hello, everyone. We're Jamie and Sophie. You may remember us from Nearlyweds and then Newlyweds. But now, guys, things are about to get even wilder as we take on our biggest adventure yet, becoming parents. Yeah, that's right. Newlyweds is now Nearly Parents. And we're bringing you the same.
Starting point is 00:28:56 honest, heartwarming takes on our journey to parenthood, I guess. Join us as we find out what it really means to become a family while trying not to kill each other. Get ready for Nearly Parent, your favourite new podcast. You're ready. I've got DiLauri. Yes, I ready. Hey, girls. I'm a huge friend of the pod and I love you both so much. Last year, I was sort of dating, sleeping with a fitness instructor. I was in my newly single Dululu era. I met him through attending his classes
Starting point is 00:29:35 and didn't think a guy like him would ever fancy me. Every single girl in his class fancied him and I'd listened to them chat in the changing rooms about how they followed him on Instagram, which I low-key liked because I knew everyone fancied him but hated the fact that I felt like a secret. Oh! After a few months of us both behaving like major red flags,
Starting point is 00:29:55 we stopped talking and seeing each other with no real conversation about it. I've tried to move on, but I can't deny how unreal our connection was. No one has ever come close since. I still have a membership at the gym and was avoiding his classes until last week. I was feeling a bit reckless, and so I booked one. As soon as I walked into the class, I knew I was in trouble. We locked eyes and the tension was obvious. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:30:18 During the class, he kept singling me out when we were doing circuits, and I'm convinced he was watching me the whole time. I played it unbelievably cool at the time but I can't stop thinking about him how do I get his attention and get him back without looking too keen a million thank yous oh god I can just imagine like also in a workout they say that you're like
Starting point is 00:30:38 specific like sex woman comes out I don't know what it is oh like the pheromote yeah the pheromones and smell and everything it gets good he could smell your sweat from Marlowe oh I think that from my side I don't know I just wouldn't be texting
Starting point is 00:30:53 him, I would have to still wait for him to text me. Yeah, he needs to make the move. Why have you? You've made the move by going into the class. Yeah. You, that was a big move. That's a big signal. Especially after, so how did it end, sorry, I just sort of got a bit lost. So they're both acting like red flags and then it just fizzled out. Yeah. You're like, what happened? How does that, how does something just fizzle out like that? I don't get it. I'm like, in my mind, I think you just need to just cancel that your membership. Right. Listen, the way it's fiddles or out is they were obviously both playing such a game. Like, I reckon he replied half an hour late
Starting point is 00:31:25 then she would reply a day late and then he had replied two days late like all the red flag games that we all stupidly do. They've got to be done at some point that I will say that. I think... In the courting stage, they're necessary.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They are. They are, but he's not playing goal. But it's like you've played it so much that you've... And how do they know how does she know that he's not doing out with other people? Well, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:46 He 100% must be. Also, if he's that sexy and like running gym classes with girls like half naked working out in front of him up Like, I think you probably... Also, why were you a secret? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I think there's more to the story. Yeah. I'm not sure. I think that he's probably it's last. And I think that he's probably like Robin said, doing this with other people. So I think that the best advice would be to stay clear. And if he likes you enough, he'll come running. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Absolutely. Yeah. If it was my sister, if it was you, I'd say never talk to me. I'd be like, babe, leave the gym. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to cancel the gym membership and you've got to move on. Because if you're not seeing him every week, it's like the moment she's going into that gym even though she's not seeing him
Starting point is 00:32:24 she's thinking about him in that next room working out do you know what I mean it's just on your mind and then she'll be on the treadmill music blasting hairs imagine she's in a music video thinking he's going to walk through the door and see her and it's just yeah like you just do that she's going to be like getting really dressed up every time she goes to the gym and it's a whole thing and doing that
Starting point is 00:32:40 you're going to block the door to anyone out who's like maybe well true coming through Santa's a pick big so must put a face with it yeah I'm quite keen to see like maybe we go and do the class yeah and then we can really give us some advice But write us, but send us a letter. Send us a photo.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Send us letters. Or his Instagram handle, better yet. Oh, better yeah. Better yeah. Let's see the Instagram handle. And then we can really make a decision. But please update us on what you decided to do. Dynamo 2.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Ready. Hi girls, I have a dilemma and I love your advice. I'm single and a few months ago I was on a night out with my girlfriends. A couple of guys approached us, both good-looking guys who turned out to be brothers. Oh, my God, it's giving. Salvatore brothers or summer-tempered diaries. No. Have you seen summertime to be pretty?
Starting point is 00:33:22 You need to watch. No. To be fair, you are running a wedding. Yeah, but also I'm saving it because I know I'm going to want something to watch. Most. Yeah. I think vampire diaries is actually better. I would start with vampire diaries.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Me too. Seriously. I ended up getting with one of the brothers, and before leaving the night out, we exchanged numbers. After that night out, he would only message if he was horny and ask me if I could come around to his flat during a random specific hours of the day. I refuse every time and ask him to stop messaging me, as it was. was getting too much and made me feel uncomfortable. I mean, yeah. I felt something was off, so I did a little stalk of him, only to find out that he was not only, oh my God, not only had a girlfriend, but a fiancé. I called, sorry, how did you not stalk him the moment, no, you left
Starting point is 00:34:07 the club? I called him out on it, and he called me up, begging me not to tell her. Oh my God. Every girl part of me is saying I should tell her, but I felt very much from the phone call that this isn't the first time he's made a mistake. So she probably already knows about the cheating and might not believe me, some random girl. I also don't love the thought of being involved in a relationship. I know nothing about at the same time. I would want to know if I was her, what should I do?
Starting point is 00:34:36 What would you do, Robin? So they've just to, just to briefly go over again. She has kissed him on the night out and exchange numbers. I mean, the specific timing invites like red flag. Beauty cool. Yeah. Yeah, no. I would tell, I would tell the fiancé, definitely.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And you can just give the receipts. This is his number and this is what he sent me. Because what they do with that information is up to them. But you have said, like she, like she's given the information. She's got peace of mind that actually she knew about it. And then she gave them the information up to them what they want to do with it. So true. You're so right.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You are far enough away from the situation that it's not actually going to track you down. You know, like when it's kind of a friend of a friend and then you're like the bad messenger. Yeah, you don't want to do that. start even though it's not your fault at all that sometimes happens this situation it doesn't matter because you're like never going to see you to again yeah i agree i think that you should send her receipts and just say like i thought you should know girl to girl i thought you should know and then just leave it that and then just run for the hills don't get involved hope she never calls you because you don't want to get dragged into the job but you want to do the morally right thing which
Starting point is 00:35:40 is yeah also i think for her piece of mind i agree i need this piece of information i've shared it now I can, like, put it to bed. And then block the motherfucker. Seriously. Yeah. Why are we even, no. Not good. Not good.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Not far. No. We hope you're okay and we're setting you love. Okay, dilemma three. Hey, girls, please help. I live with three gorgy girls. We've been best fans since uni and have the best time living together. However, one of them has a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Let's call him Tom, who I absolutely cannot stand. Oh, no. I could tolerate him if I didn't have to see him very often, but he's around our house all the time. I come back from work. He's laying on the sofa. I come downstairs on a Saturday morning. He's making coffee in the kitchen. He's always there. It all got too much last week. I'd had a really stressful day at work and got home, went straight upstairs and ran myself a bath. I left the bathroom to get my speaker from my room for literally two minutes. In that time, he had swooped into the bathroom, locked the door and was having a poo. Safe to say my bath was ruined. My stress dabble as well. It was through the roof. No, no, no, no. that's not right. I try speaking to my friend about it, but she can't understand why I wouldn't want Tom around the house as much as he is. I'm starting to take the house share and it's all because of him.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Please help me, girls. What can I do? I'm not a lot. The other friend is like, why do you hate him? He's so great. That's what the bummer is. Yeah, the other friend is also, thinks that he's fantastic. Yeah, the other friend's like, why do you not like him out?
Starting point is 00:37:07 That would really, then you're in a pickle. Because then it's you against. Tom need some boundaries. Tom needs some goddamn boundaries. I think, yeah, that's very simply put. because that is probably all he needs actually he's pissing you off because he's in your space and stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah like surely he must have seen that she's going to have a bath. Horrific. Honestly I think men are so un-observant like genuinely he'd be like Don't see the bath being run Yeah He will be like that
Starting point is 00:37:33 Yeah or he'd be like yeah but I need you to shit Maybe they only have one bathroom as well Yeah But that's what I'm gauging But even so Tom No The pooing at the girl's house it's also the sentence doing your poo
Starting point is 00:37:47 I don't know so awful he was having a poo he locked the door and he locked the door and he locked the door and she's imagine coming back and then just knowing that's happening like a busy stink in there as well now
Starting point is 00:37:59 you want to go have a relaxing bath ruined I do think you've got to just like in a comical like lighthearted way maybe set some boundaries in front of him and be like Tom love you but we can't be pooing when I'm running a bath like that's what I would say and be like I'm fine with you yeah
Starting point is 00:38:14 and just leave it at that and just be like no, no, no, okay. I know I'm laughing now, but it's going to piss me off that happens again, seriously. Yeah, that's a good idea. Because then you're not being mean or embarrassing but you are just being like, but heads up, I'm really not okay with that
Starting point is 00:38:29 if that always happens. Or they could speak to the friend and be like, look, your boyfriend needs some boundaries. Like, love him, but... I almost feel like that's more awkward. Yeah, no, you're probably right. I think it's better to sit straight to him almost in front of everybody, so it's less of a big deal.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah, it depends what you're. your friends like it depends what your relationships like if you and her are like as thick as thieves and you feel she's not like that protective girlfriend she'd be like I love tom but like can we please just like I don't want to walk down and breakfast and he's like hogging the coffee machine and like doing a shit when I'm trying to have a bath and hopefully she'll laugh and then you can like squash it yeah and then you don't have to but we've given you two solutions yeah yeah two scenarios two scenarios hopefully you can resolve this um and you know what Maybe you're great to love Tom.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Who knows? Well, fingers crossed that you do. You also could get one of those cute little, like, things that's like, do not disturb signs. Like, which you shouldn't have to do. But like, don't fucking go into the bathroom right now because I'm about to have a bath. And you're going to, like, go back to your own uni house and dumb. Also, just like, please don't poo in our one voucher.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Don't poo in our house. Go home and have a bit. Yeah, I agree. Just have some decorum. Or just like pop to Caféero before you come to our house and do a pee. Absolutely. Like, do what the bathtub of us do. It's almost like showing.
Starting point is 00:39:44 off that they can poo. Like, what is that? I know they're just like, they are so open about that. It's a weird thing. Also, they take forever as well. Don't. An hour. They really enjoy the ritual of pooing. It's because it's the only like moment of peace, apparently. Oh, for God say what, from their nagging girlfriend. That's from my boyfriend. A nice moment to myself. I'm like, okay. What we should really do is like make sure there's no phones in the loo so then it can't be that easy. Yeah. It's only peaceful because they really get a private moment to, like, do whatever the hell they want to do on the usual. But I'm like, what are you doing in there that you don't want me to see?
Starting point is 00:40:22 I know. It used to be, though, that, like, there'd be a newspaper. Like, I remember when I was younger, there was, like, this mini, like, stool with a pile of, like, books in the loo. And I'm like, like, magazines, sorry, not books. So people would just sit and read a magazine. Oh, no. That was quite common. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So I think it is, like, it's drilled into us from quite a young age that it's just, it's a time for a bit of He's an entertainment. I'll never forget when I was like 12, I went, I was at my friend's house and I just opened the downstairs loo and her dad was just there, sat on the loo, reading a newspaper. And I didn't go and close door, I just went, and backed away. And then I stared at him like, and he had to hold the newspaper and, like, get off the loo, and he looked me in the eye and shut it, like, why have you left the door open? Oh my God, I would have had to leave and never know that to friend's house.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Why did I never close the door? And I will just never picture him just being like, shutting the door in my face and me just stay in there. It's always in those moments, like, you don't do what you, like, it seems so simple to do. It's high sight is a beautiful thing. It really is. But that's, that stayed with me that memory.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Oh my God, did you have to sit with him like at dinner time? I absolutely did. And I think it was really awkward for a while. But now I know him still, and it's absolutely not awkward. So I fear that, that I hope that moment is far. You reignited that memory now if he listens to this. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:44 That's hope he doesn't go on station. Yeah. Anyway, that's the end of the dilemmas. Yeah. I hope that was helpful. Yes, thank you so much. You're amazing. I'm sharing your amazing story and we are just so happy for you and so excited and we can't
Starting point is 00:41:59 wait to see the picture. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. Bryn, appreciate it. It's been so fun. Copperfield.org for more information about breast cancer and how to check yourself. And remember, if you do spot something that could be a symptom, please, please make sure you go and see your GP.
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