Wednesdays - 11: Our most SHOCKING story yet!!!

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

It’s an emotional one this week tinies! Sophie and Melissa chat about getting older, friendships changing, planning for the future and Melissa’s 27th birthday. The girls discuss dilemmas incl...uding a six-year relationship with an oversharing problem, a 6-month situationship and someone who struggles with self-esteem issues due to acne…Plus, we read the most SHOCKING story time EVER. Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer: @ben_johnsEditor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @thechampagencyAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:40 All over Jamie's cashmere jumper. Oh, Shiza. Rubbing in. Shh. I went and collected Sophie a coffee today. It's raining like nothing else this morning. It's disgusting. And it's grey.
Starting point is 00:01:52 You know yesterday when I was in Spain at the weekend with my dad and I came out yesterday and I was like, gorgeous. I love London. It was sunny. Sophie made me cry. Why? Do you remember when you were messaging me? Yeah, you really got upset by that.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I got so upset. I think I'm just very overwhelmed at the moment with like there's so much change. I know. You know, that's what happened to me last year. I think there was so much change in my life and now I'm settled into the new change. It's not even happening to me. It's happening to the people around me. Get ready.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I think you and I are quite similar like that. Like the change. We don't love change. No, I just want things to stay the same. So obviously Sophie got engaged. That's fine. Then she got married. I mean, that's kind of fine.
Starting point is 00:02:30 But it was a lot. She's growing up and I'm like, well, fuck. I was talking about babies. She's talking about babies and then like potentially like planning like when they want to kind of like start trying for a kid or like have a kid or whatever. And I was like, my other best friend got engaged and they've moved out of London. And for some reason I was in the hairdresser and I just like my eyes just filled with tears and you kept sending voice note and I went stop stop did you I didn't need it I went stop no I'm upset yeah I just thought you were being upset she was like I'm losing you both me and Hermione I was messaging Toby and I was like I'm really upset there's just so much change
Starting point is 00:03:02 she was like it's okay you've got other friends around I was like, I really like her. There's just so much change. She was like, it's okay. You've got other friends around. I was like, no, but they're the best ones. Because I was basically punning Ryan and Melissa's side. I was like, we're going to live right next to each other and then our babies can grow up together and then we're going to do this and then we can go here and go there. And she was like, enough? No, no.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It just overwhelms me. It is overwhelming. It's weird. Like now i'm older i was actually like talking this is being really raw i was talking to toby about what toby keeps like making jokes about like when we would live together or anything like that and i'm like for some reason when i was younger i would be way more carefree about decisions like that but now i'm older you're so much more cautious and pessimistic do you know what i mean i'm like you think things through way
Starting point is 00:03:45 more and you think of the consequences way more when you're older whereas when you're young you don't think but you're like yeah it's fine let's do it now don't think about it yeah yeah yeah like you would move in with anyone yeah when you're so much younger like people that's why i guess people do like more impulsive silly things when they're younger and that's where you make your mistakes but when you're older you're so much more cautious. That's probably because, Melissa, you did. I'm really shocked. I don't like that. When's that ever?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Does someone else call you Melissa? Toby. That's because Melissa. You know, that's been popping out my mouth a couple of times. I keep referring to you. I called you to my dad,
Starting point is 00:04:21 Melissa, when I was in Spain. I don't know where it's come from. I just don't know. It must be from Toby. Maybe it's about time we had a nickname for each other it's probably safe now that's not a nickname that's my short name abbreviated it's mine melissa it's just okay no i call you prash i always call you prash yeah true but it's probably because you're another year around the sun my love my love 27 i haven't i never know your age. When this is going, I haven't actually turned 27 yet, but I'm very, very close to you.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'm thrilled. It's really, you know, things are happening. Things are happening. I think that 27 is actually a really scary year. Yeah, it's also like a lot of people die. It's the 27. 27 club. I had a bad 27 year, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh no, my 28th year. No, 27 was great. We had ball. No, funky stuff was creeping in the 27. 27 Club. I had a bad 27 year, I reckon I. Oh no, my 28th year. 27 was great. We had ball. No, funky stuff was creeping in at 27. Yeah, we got away with it there. We got away with it,
Starting point is 00:05:11 but like, funky stuff was happening. Oh great, Simon for a real treat this year. I don't know, I want people to write in like, how you found your 27th year, because I found it a weird one.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Okay, this is going to sound really bad. You're going to change. I got engaged, which was amazing and so so exciting but I suddenly went from this like child and I really I'm the youngest in my family you know my dad treats me like a child still in a way I'm still the baby you know I called my dad 10 times a day for advice and suddenly I was like getting married and suddenly it was almost like I wasn't calling my parents. It was like, I'd start to call Jamie
Starting point is 00:05:48 and then I had to transition because you can't make your husband your father. No, of course. Well, you can make them the father of your children. Like, I don't know. I basically had to grow up. I had to grow the hell up. I didn't know how to pay tax.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm really embarrassing myself for being really open. I'm the same. But I wasn't like up to no one admin and tax bills and all of this shit and I suddenly was getting married had to budget okay I sound so ridiculous I'm actually embarrassed but I just found it a year that I needed to grow the hell up and you know we did made in Chelsea so we never like babied for a long time baby is the wrong word but it's almost like it's like you live at university school yeah you're at uni yeah I think you're in uni you're at uni in London I've been like babied for a long time. Babied is the wrong word, but it's almost like it's like an extension of school. Yeah, you're at uni.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. I think you're in uni. You're at uni in London. There's no rules. You can go out on a Monday night, a Tuesday night. You can turn up to filming. Like there's no rule. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's all like you're literally just, you're being sort of like pushed. Yeah. You're basically high five to be naughty and be childish. Exactly. It's like a bizarre way of living. And so I suddenly- This year's been funky for me too, hasn't it? like push. Yeah. You're basically high five to be naughty and be childish. Exactly. It's like a bizarre way of living. And so I said, it's been funky for me too.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Hasn't it? I've been like, I just feel so weird. It's like, you don't know that you're basically moving into a new chapter of your life and you start to sort of feel like you need to have a bit of control on things and be a bit more sensible. Yeah. Like that post has to be opened.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That pile of post. Yeah. No more future Melissa and Sophie yeah like that post has to be opened that pile of yeah no more future melissa and sophie like it just has to be done the future is now the future is now it all just like rumbles into one yeah and it's all gonna keep rambling and then it's gonna come like the next stage and the next stage is children which is okay i know exactly i know exactly why 27 was hard for me let me explain it 26, everyone was going out and partying. Most people were either single or newly into a relationship. And life was like, what are we doing on a Thursday, Friday, and Saturday? And you're constantly with your friends.
Starting point is 00:07:36 27, everyone's not going out as much. Everyone's like, I'm just chilling this weekend. People are like waiting for the engagement to happen. They're either looking to invest with their partner. They don't want to be a friendship anymore. It's like we're all our own little couples. And I found it hard to adjust. I was like, I like all my friends being around me 24-7.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And suddenly everyone's going out. I'm fucking moving out of London. I'm like, no, no, I need all my friends to be my neighbours still. And for us to do those lovely things that we used to. And like you and I on like a Wednesday would go for lunch and like just- Oh, have some champagne at lunch. And then we'd go meet people after. Like that shit doesn't happen anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I know, what the? I know. I had to adjust to it. You're still adjusting. It's really up to you. Because you've got one toe dipped into like, your school friends are still really quite- They are, but because they all have, you know to five you know pretty serious big they all have quite big jobs so like
Starting point is 00:08:30 there'll still be weekends where we have good fun and we have a blowout like this friday last friday got so drunk i threw up the next day not again yeah which has only happened to me five times in my life and it's all been this year ever since and my sister was like hun that's getting all your body's just like nope you can't handle the alcohol anymore like you can't so i'm like oh my god my body's also telling me to go up yeah that's also at 27 or i just couldn't drink anymore the hangovers are relentlessly terrible like a two day hangover i'm sick the next day my body's like get it out of me whereas before do you remember i'd wake up at 8am like right let's go for a climb let's go for a workout nothing would shit I'd feel nothing
Starting point is 00:09:09 she felt she looked as fresh as a daisy I'd wake up looking like I've been dragged through a hedge backwards you would feel nothing I don't know why you would honestly wake up at 8 you'd have like your little pan of chocolate and you'd be like how was last night and I'd be like oh yeah ready for a debrief I'd facetime all my friends and they'd be like piss off leave me alone i'm so happy it's happening it's really quite terrible it is terrible so there's a lot of changes it's basically adjusting to like our our second stage of life yeah we're entering that next shift of a chapter so we've done the first quarter now we're in the second quarter we're in so it's a quarter-life crisis essentially isn't it but then I also look back at like
Starting point is 00:09:49 really early 20s and I'm a bit looking I had no idea who I was like I think at 27 you start to know who you are I think at 25 you're starting to like feel like you're a set you know who you are and you know like what but I almost like not knowing who I was I just went with the flow anything I was like oh I can be with that and I can be that and I can be with that and I don't know it's like innocent as possible almost and like or it's not innocent what's the word for it um naive naive yeah naive is a beautiful thing naivety is a stunning thing sometimes I just yeah I prefer that I think ignorance is less in so many other ways like I wish I didn't I wish I wish I didn't do things I did things differently when I was that
Starting point is 00:10:29 age but then at the same time I'm like god I just didn't care about anything I didn't nothing was that deep nothing there was no consequences there was no consequences nothing felt that deep I didn't feel as much I'm like god my emotions yeah now i'm older are so much deeper and i really think about how i feel whereas before i'm like i've almost felt like numb to everything i don't think i knew what i felt no neither bizarre like if i felt a certain way i'd be like oh i feel a bit weird today and off i went on to nothing like i wouldn't dwell on it no i don't obsess but i'm like oh i feel a bit weird today it's probably because that that but that's okay we should probably work on that though and then do you know yeah it's a more conscious thought process we're much more in touch
Starting point is 00:11:09 with who we are and who yeah we're deeper souls we are deeper souls we're diving straight into dilemmas day melissa do you want to go i will okay hey sophie and melissa my partner and i have been together for six years. We moved in together six months ago and we're getting a puppy, so life has felt great. God, that's stunning. There's something about a dog that really solidifies... Relationship.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, it just feels like a child, doesn't it? However, I've noticed a change in my boyfriend. He wasn't his usual bubbly self, so I asked him what was wrong. He said that his anxiety has been really bad lately and that he has been overthinking everything. And because of that, he was feeling guilty about things which had happened during our relationship. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:11:50 One of those things he felt most guilty about was masturbating. Masturbating. I'm sorry. Masturbating? Masturbating. Masturbating, but I say masturbating too. I've never used that word in a normal sentence. Yeah, wanking.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Can we just call it wanking? He was having a wank over other girls' photos and fantasizing about being with them. I'm really sorry for- Don't admit to that. Well, just keep that down. Every boy probably does it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 We just don't want to know. We just don't want to know about that. I asked who the girls were and it turns out they were girls that we knew in real life. No, I'm sorry. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I'm out. He said it happened a few times over our relationship, including since we've been living together. I feel like I can't put my feet on the floor because they're so gross. I'm so grossed out. Do you know what I mean? I really don't understand what his problem is.
Starting point is 00:12:35 There's being honest. There's being an idiot. He's formed a habit where he will tell me things he did in the past, which he now thinks were disrespectful towards me, and he apologizes about them. There's a real sense of guilt I'm getting from this guy. i can see how much he's matured and what he's saying and i understand that he thinks he's doing the right thing by telling me but in my mind i'm just
Starting point is 00:12:51 thinking why say it now years later i say yeah you he says he'd never cheated on he said he'd never he's never cheated and i do trust him i feel like i'm waiting for him to drop a bomb our relationship has really changed i don't feel affectionate or at all comfortable. And I don't know how to move on from this. I'd love to hear your opinions. I love you both. I'm really sorry. Like I get that he's done that
Starting point is 00:13:14 from the niceness of his heart, but no, I would be so icked out. I think I'm sensing something like, as she says, like he's almost like, right. He feels so guilty about something that he must've done that's really bad. So he's like he's almost like right he feels so guilty about something that he must have done that's really bad so he's like if i just tell her these other little things that i've done which i could easily get away with it will release the sense of guilt off of me maybe i don't know i would just this is just quite something it's so weird i'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 00:13:41 if i was a boy and had a wank over I mean someone I know is really not right in my view like that's that is actually oh my god no I've forgotten about
Starting point is 00:13:51 that piece of information no I'm really sorry if Jamie said do you know what I'm wanking over Melissa I would actually have to say well we are done because I could never
Starting point is 00:13:59 have sex with them again I couldn't I'm gonna know whatever but do you know what I mean I mean mean i didn't think about it like that in itself he wants to me he's kind of like i want you to break up with me but i can't bear to i also like myself and i feel like he's trying to tell you that he's done things which obviously are really fucked up and you should probably break up with him over it but he's like it's i'm not that i wouldn't cheat because he can't bear to
Starting point is 00:14:29 cheat but he also can't bear to break up with you so i'm sensing that he's i just don't think it's right i also think that he he's really confused in his mind and he wants validation of her to be like don't worry it's okay what you're doing because he's thinking surely this isn't right that i'm doing this over her friends it's not right and he's like i can't deal with like this turmoil in my head i want you to be able to either say don't worry i think it's kind of chill or be like that's mental we're breaking up we need to probably deep dive into why you're feeling the need to do this over my friends in the first place that in itself tells me i'm sorry the friends thing i genuinely could not get over like that to me is
Starting point is 00:15:05 i don't know i know this is such a bold statement but that's almost worse for me than him cheating with a random girl i can't i do because it's like he's one he's thinking about i wouldn't he's fantasizing about it and he wants it to happen in a certain type of world no i've done i feel really uncomfortable i think that you deserve better. Take that pooch and be gone. Kick him out the house. That's all I'm going to say. You deserve much fucking better than that. And he's a bit psycho for telling you that.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah, the whole thing's really odd. I don't think, and I think you can sense there's obviously something really not right in the relationship. Yeah, because she's not feeling comfy. I would not feel comfortable getting close with him either. Neither. Oh my God, no. Every time I was with him, him i'd just be like you're thinking about my best friend
Starting point is 00:15:47 yeah or a girl i know multiple girls like she knows it's almost like he's he i think has checked out emotionally and intimately and perhaps he doesn't want to be and he's like wanting you to be like this is how we'll fix it because you he's desperate to stay because, you know, you've built a life together essentially and it's sometimes really hard to leave. And sometimes things are really worth fighting for, I agree. But sometimes you have to just accept that it's maybe better to let him go. I don't know. This just sounds a bit strange.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It's also something that I just could, I know myself, that would be my worst nightmare. I would also then be like like i can't be friends with any of these girls no i would be so cross with them i just don't think i know they've done nothing wrong i'd be like fuck you you're out my life and every time he even breathes i'd be like you're thinking of them you pal yeah yeah yeah no i i think that you deserve like he's giving me the ick bin that bin that boy what were you about to say with that bitch pin the bastard that's all right in the bastard no i feel i don't feel bad i think he's also so selfish honest but i think it's
Starting point is 00:16:51 selfish to tell her like oh you're getting off your conscience but actually that's something that maybe you would not need to tell your girlfriend that you've been wanking over a girl if he was a real man he wanted to like make her feel good about herself if he loved her he would actually just break up with you like i've been feeling certain feelings that maybe tell me that i'm i don't want to be in this relationship anymore and i've outgrown it i still love you so much i have enough respect for you that you deserve someone that does want to be with you in that way and isn't maybe thinking about other girls he could just be like look i've gotten to a point where i maybe feel like i'm attracted to other people there's no one specifically but i don't feel like i'm locked onto anymore i don't know
Starting point is 00:17:32 you could break up with me and be honest with me but don't tell me that you're wanking over my mates like that's just so unnecessary it's so rank like what were you meant to have like sick thanks for telling me i feel so much better now. Off I go on my Tuesday. Just break up with me. Have some more balls and break up with me and just say that it's not working anymore. Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Ugh, dilemma two. Hey, girls, I went to a wedding in May and had a wild night. I really got along with the groom's best friend and ended up inviting him back to my room where we slept with each other. On the night, he told me that he'd broken up with his ex a month before. They'd been together for six years, owned a house,
Starting point is 00:18:09 and even had a date set for their own wedding. Oh, shite. No, I couldn't. Six years is like your assassin. He called it off as he realized she wasn't the right person. We've been seeing each other since the wedding and it has been the best six months. Our connection is really strong and even though've been seeing each other since the wedding and it has been the best six months. Our connection is really strong
Starting point is 00:18:25 and even though we started seeing each other just for fun, I'd now like to make it exclusive. Sweet. I know he's worried as he's only just come out of a big relationship, but I really like him and I'd be sad if I knew that he was talking to anyone else. Shall I ask him to go exclusive
Starting point is 00:18:38 or just go with the flow? No. Oh my God, sweetness. You guys look gorgeous together. I love the dress. Six months? Do you know what six months is a bloody long time
Starting point is 00:18:47 I'd be like am I your girlfriend yeah I remember how I did it with Jamie tell tell tell tell tell you gotta tell how you did it too
Starting point is 00:18:55 I didn't Toby asked me fucking hell Jamie didn't little bitch so we were like having a press interview for Made in Chelsea
Starting point is 00:19:02 I know what you were wearing black dress black combat boots. I know what you were wearing. Black dress, black combat boots. Yeah! I know it so well. And he never referred to me as his girlfriend. And he didn't in an interview? No, he didn't in an interview. Oh, but you guys are so neat.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I then left like really stormy. We obviously would leave together. And I was like, off I go. Just got in a taxi, went home, back to Fulham. And he was like, have you gone? I was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:27 I've gone. Didn't speak to him. He was like, what's going on? Obviously just being so moody the whole evening. that's, I would say me like that.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Like airing him like, yeah, one up, like, you know, one word answers, full stop. Oh,
Starting point is 00:19:38 boys are so simple as that. He would have just been like, what have I done wrong? Yeah, he was like, what have I done? He was, no,
Starting point is 00:19:42 he didn't even ask, didn't even pick up on it. Oh my God. And then he later called me and was like, should I come over tonight? I was like, no. wrong yeah he was like what have i done he was he no he didn't even ask didn't even pick up on it oh my god and then he later called me and was like should i come over tonight i was like no and then i was like so i can't remember how i said it but basically he was like quite weird you didn't call me your girlfriend yeah call him out i just had to it was it was sometimes it's like it just explodes out of your mouth it's also like sometimes like you're actually being a wet wipe if you don't say i think at six months you're okay to say six months if he's talking to other girls taking the piss fucking buckle up every time i say that thing i each think a sense of he's are you actually taking the piss someone throws a
Starting point is 00:20:13 drink over his face that meme like goes this is my whole friendship group i just do it you actually taking the piss like it's so good can someone get that video up so i can say show save me no i need to see it oh it's iconic anyway um yeah i think just say be like look kind of want to know what's going on here like am i am i gonna go date other people now because it's been six months so i don't really want to waste my time really like you but i need to know where i stand at this point yeah you've been very chilled not saying anything before mine would be a three month yeah yeah yeah four months and you need to be exclusive. You need to not be dating.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Oh my God, 100%. I think it's three months I was dating his girlfriend. Sorry, straight away for me, I can't be exclusive. I'm like, if we slept together, we're exclusive. Yeah, we were exclusive as soon as we slept together pretty much. Which was the first date. I don't really give a lot of information away this episode. I know, we're really selling the tea. But he did sort of ask me that maybe two, three weeks after we were dating.
Starting point is 00:21:10 What? He said, would you want to be my girlfriend? No. Sort of ensured that I wasn't sleeping with anyone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was quite shocking that you would assume that I was. I'm like, when would I have the time, hun? I'm like with you every night. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Do you know what I mean? I agree. But, you know, it's good to sometimes just put things out there. I don't think you are night I know I mean I agree but you know it's good sometimes just put things out there I don't think you are being psycho at all it's got to be asked yeah and otherwise like it's got to be established you need to know where you are he also will be exclusive but like I think exclusive to me is your the girlfriend I don't understand it's all the same fucking thing god weddings just a great place to meet people, isn't it? Yeah. It's cute. It's cute.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I don't know if you noticed how big of a dynamo I own. I did. Sometimes Sophie and I will just send each other voice notes and it'll be like nothing all day and it'll be like... It's cute. Like as quietly as you possibly can. It's just so fucking weird. Oh no, you swear I just read that.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Oh my God, you're as bad as me. I'm really bad. I was with my parents on Monday i was with you you've definitely got worse my mom got really upset and i was like i never saw in front of anyone apart from you guys it's what you do to me i know but i'm terrible there's something gone wrong since i started the podcast it's like yeah stop that's five in the swear jar oh no that was an impression no right okay right it's cute dilemma three i'm just gonna say something okay right the number three so i'm obviously bird i'm born on the third of december which is my birthday this is the sixth
Starting point is 00:22:34 episode which is double three my birthday is on the 12th the 12th month and i was born in 1996 so it's six six six six six it's war it's all threes or sixes i'm not the devil and i'm not the child of the devil but this is dilemma three and this is the sixth episode i don't know why that just really freaked me out maybe that's just me to hinder things a little bit too much but anyway wait it's not the sixth episode it's 11 it says it's going out on wednesday the 6th of december also 11 is another number that my brother and my mum are like, just 11 everything for them. And everything's three for me and six.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And my dad's 6666. No. My dad was born on the 6th of June, which is the 6662. So it's three sixes, which is the devil's number. I think Jamie got something to do with his birth. It was the devil's. Yeah, well, he's the 3rd of November. Spawn of the devil.
Starting point is 00:23:34 1989. Yeah, that's not multiple of three but november's not anyway right dilemma three melissa hey girls really struggling with a bad act with bad acne at the moment my skin has gotten worse over the past few months and it's really getting me down i feel like the spotlight it's on me all the time and it's making me not want to go out i so understand this before this i was getting to a place where i felt confident with my looks that my but that confidence is now gone i have had a gp appointments about it and given some medication which seems to have made it worse can do that i was wondering if you have been through anything similar with your skin if you had any advice that i could boost my confidence when i'm not feeling I look my best. That's really difficult.
Starting point is 00:24:09 We've all been there in a certain shape or form. Sophie, you've had your struggles with like, I wouldn't say acne, but like you went through phases of like bad skin. Really bad skin. And that got you down. You managed to make it go. Thank God. I think it's really hard because I just remember like nothing anyone said.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And like you put on the makeup. I think being really healthy in like in your body otherwise. So like, you know, going to the gym and eating clean and all of those things. Trying to get your gut health as good as you possibly can. And like sleeping so you feel physically healthy makes you almost look healthier and you totally if you feel physically healthy you're gonna feel better about yourself so then it's less bothersome when you see a spot on your
Starting point is 00:24:56 face and it's uncontrollable i also think trying to get like i think going to the doctors they can give you like they just prescribe you stuff and it can sometimes as you said make it worse because it can like destroy your skin barrier and they give you this antibiotic cream and sometimes it works but i would just try and like get everything inside your body like as sophie said as healthy and clean as possible get your gut health back gut health's really connected to skin really mental i mean i had it with my skin where i had this horrible i had this morpheus eight thing that like really messed up my skin i'm still trying to recover it from now and i see someone called eleanor ellenique skin clinic in um philip she's really helping me and she's incredible and she also says to me you know like it also makes sure that you're doing everything you can
Starting point is 00:25:39 internally to help your skin too like there's all the these facials and stuff i can help rebuild and heal your skin but everything inside is really important totally water like cut out you know sugary drinks and stuff like that anything sort of artificially i think can sometimes contribute in a set with like if you can try and help it in a i just read a book called the five high five habit by mel Robbins. Is she the American one? Yeah. I love her. Yeah, she's amazing. And she says, you've got to wake up.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And the first thing you do when you look in the mirror is you high five the mirror. And it actually biologically and scientifically has scientific facts that you cannot, you can rewire your brain to see yourself in a positive way. Because like biologically, you can't high five. We've been so ingrained, the high five is a positive affirmation that you can't high five yourself and then see yourself at the same time negatively.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So it's a really good way to do it in the mirror because it rewires people to look in the mirror and actually see positive things rather than negative. And the studies that she's had, like she's had people who've been suffering with cancer and all of these things and they've had like such wild effects so i would start first thing you do when you wake up first time you look in the mirror high five yourself in the mirror i think that there's also things that we have to like sometimes acceptance is really hard so you go okay right my skin's not looking its best but it's only going
Starting point is 00:27:02 to get better totally and then we're now on a mission to get it better and i'm not going to stress about it because stressing about things makes things worse try and be as confident as you can there's also i think we also have to think like i know you feel like you're the only one in the world that's got like bad skin but then no one is so many like madison beer walks around all the time with like no makeup and spot stickers on her face and she's obviously like learned to like be really confident within herself and it's just like i don't care i've got spots on my face today i'm wearing like these star spots stickers and she's like out getting papped with no makeup i will say but she still looks great because she's obviously oozing confidence and she's just you know accepting it like i've got some spots on my face today but let's just work on this and get rid of it
Starting point is 00:27:39 i totally agree and i also think there's something in for me i found wearing less makeup when i had spotty skin look better like i don't think caking because you're trying to cover something up that you know it's hard to cover up so sometimes just being natural is and no one is noticing it like melissa you'll say to me i've got no one notices a spot on someone else's face only you notice it and that i truly truly mean mean and i know it's true gratitude gratitude is so important like write five things and they don't you know or 10 things they don't have to be like physical it could be like i like my intuition i like grateful for the coffee that i'm having to yeah or like things maybe about your personality that you like rather than the way you look like i I like my eyes. Like maybe I like how confident I am or I like that I can laugh with my friends.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And just keep writing it and stick at it. And it's going to get better. And listen to podcasts like Mel Robbins and positive podcasts, you know. And just know that truly. It's all mindset. Totally mindset. And I also think like having education behind you is also really important. Sometimes we're like in this thing where you're like, i just want an answer of like how to fix it like i found
Starting point is 00:28:49 that like trying to educate myself on like foods and you've done the same thing on like nutrition and it's really easy on instagram so it's so easy now and like or tiktok or whatever like you can just find out like good tips about like healthy natural skincare whatever and like nutrition and like all those things you then know the information yourself so when you go to the doctor and some i'm not bashing doctors but sometimes they'll give you something and i'm like i know that's not what i like yeah and they give you like a really strong and it's actually something that you can probably do yourself and with education yourself then you when you know what you're doing it's easier it's when you sort of also feel quite lost on top of yeah you've got no control new thing on my face
Starting point is 00:29:24 i don't know what to do i don't know how to fix it i know no information i'm gonna go to the doctor and hopefully they can just give me something that works and it doesn't it makes it worse take back the control of like the information you'll probably feel more on top of it and then you'll feel a bit more confident it's when you feel lost as well that's like i totally get what that's like yeah like a lack of control you don't know how to control it and skin's hard because it's really hard to control i think also like if you're getting a bit overwhelmed if you look in the mirror and you know definitely a high five and if you still look in the mirror and you're really all you can see is your spots like you know there are all the box breathing you
Starting point is 00:29:57 can do breathe in four hold four out four yeah and as you're doing it try and think of like positive things or things you're excited for in that day. Like take your mind off your skin. It's hard to do, but practice makes it. Nothing comes easy. You've got to just keep going for it. Yeah. And I promise you, you'll get better. I will get better.
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Starting point is 00:31:46 In the middle of the night, he woke up and told me that his family friend was sleeping on the sofa as she had nowhere to go. I didn't think much of it and went back to sleep. No. Oh. We woke up in the morning, had sex,
Starting point is 00:31:57 and then I went to work. A few days later, I got a message from the family friend on Instagram. It turns out she wasn't a family friend, rather a girl that he had been sleeping with since April. No, the dirty dog. She also told me that they'd slept with each other the same night I'd been around.
Starting point is 00:32:12 What the hell? Oh my God, he got up in the middle of the night and sat with her on the sofa. No, you're fucking kidding me. To make it worse, he told her that I was his sister and that's why this needed to be kept quiet. Boys, I actually can't. I have to laugh because it's that awful.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I confronted him about it and he said that he did it because we weren't exclusive. Oh, shut up. I hate it when you call that card. I wasn't buying any of his bullshit apologies. It became even worse when the girl messaged me this weekend
Starting point is 00:32:43 to tell me that the boy I'd been sleeping with, sleeping, seeing, had been paying her to have sex with him. Oh! Oh, no. I wondered why she was, like, like, sleeping on the sofa. So if I'm okay with that, I'd be like, why can't I stay in the bed with you?
Starting point is 00:33:01 I'm so mad at him for lying. I feel violated but grateful that the girl told me what was happening as i feel like i've dodged a bullet i felt like i've been living in an episode of the gossip girl with this disgusting man thinking he's chuckbacks when literally he has the brain of a 17 year old but the ego of an old banker wanker sophie he said that he sees you near his office getting coffee i don't like he sees me that is the craziest dating story i've ever had in my life apart from barcelona boy when are we gonna track down barcelona boy he lives in my brain rent free we freaking love the follow-ups and as you know we've had this wild story about barcelona boy he's now got in contact i don't know if we said that last week Barcelona boy has only got
Starting point is 00:33:45 we've made contact we've touched on with the enemy with the enemy oh no we don't want to call him an enemy because you know everyone deserves
Starting point is 00:33:53 a second chance but you've had a lot of chances Barcelona boy no we want to hear his side of the story he's made contact which is just obviously a big deal
Starting point is 00:34:00 but I don't know if we're being now being aired by him so we would love to send him a voice should we send him a voice now let's send him a voice now?
Starting point is 00:34:06 let's send him a voice now shall we? he needs to come on this podcast you want to tell your story? we're welcoming you to the floor we're desperate we could always have him on and blur his face out yeah that's what I think we would do and we're going to be actually doing this right now
Starting point is 00:34:18 oh my god right you need to come here then right I'm really nervous. Take two, take two. It's Melissa and Sophie. We are offering you the chance to come on the podcast. We'd love to have you here to hear your side of the story.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We can blur your face out so you can still be anonymous, if that's what you're worried about. But we'd be really keen. We'd be really keen to hear your side of the story and see how you've kept up your story i can't say three we're desperate for you to come on we think you should come on to Wednesdays we think the viewers need to hear your apology or your side of the story we can blow your face out so you're completely anonymous.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Just give the fans what they want. Yeah, come on. Should I say that? I've said that. It's a yeah. Barcelona boy. Barcelona boy. Right, the tiny question this week is what is the one skill you wish you had?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Mine would be to speak multiple, multiple languages. I was going to say languages. That's mine. But that is a skill we can have. I can't. You're dyslexic. I'm learning Spanish properly at the moment. Yeah, I don't have that ability.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Well, I do. I just don't. You do. I don't have the concentration. Yeah, normally that's a real struggle. I don't have the concentration. But also singing. Like, imagine me just like...
Starting point is 00:35:40 Singing would be unreal. And we'd be so cool if we could sing. I would love the ability to like. I'm not singing, Ben. Ben the producer wants us to sing. Sing me happy birthday like how you did for Jamie. Are you joking? My voice is, my voice is, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Happy birthday to you. That was as much as I can. That's cute. Melissa's got an all right voice. I actually do. Sophie's had it. I'm getting shy You know what I actually thought
Starting point is 00:36:10 I was really quite good And then my brother Like dated this Like pop star Who was obviously phenomenal And I just never sang again It would be me Like
Starting point is 00:36:19 When dad would like Play these like old tunes I'd be like singing along And then she came along And I was like I'm just gonna pipe down now Because I literally sound Like a cat screaming in bed. I have the wildest, wildest voice.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's weird because my mum's a really good singer. Really? What, is it a muscle? Me and my sister, it's almost as though there's no one wilder than us at singing. Truly. It's actually a talent at how bad we are. What about once in a while? No, wait, For the Christmas episode
Starting point is 00:36:46 We need to sing Okay we can get A choir on Once in Royal David City We will sing the solo And then the rest Of you guys Will all join in
Starting point is 00:36:55 And sing the rest Of Once in Royal David City Yeah okay That'll be quite I miss I miss the cathedral days Same Yeah
Starting point is 00:37:02 I really do It's a real vibe Cold in that church as well. Yeah, that smell of like dusty guavas. Oh yeah, but just loved it. Okay, love you guys.
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