Wednesdays - 116: FaceTime Confessions and Housemate Affairs!
Episode Date: July 4, 2023Ordering for you at a restaurant, Joan Collins and boys having long fingers nails?! Sweet or Dry is back PLUS we’ve even got some of your tasty responses from last week… Sophie and Melissa ar...e back this week to talk about some delightful celebrity sightings and answer some of your very important dilemmas. From a boyfriend of four years recently cheating to flatmate affairs, we have some very juicy dilemmas for you!! This week Melissa is drinking Vinca Wine and Sophie is drinking Trip. RATINGS: Melissa: 8.5/10 Sophie: 10/10 Thanks for listening xInstagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayswedrinkwineEmail: wwdw@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer & Editor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @emzchampionAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                         Hello.
                                         
                                         Hello.
                                         
    
                                         Hello.
                                         
                                         We are back.
                                         
                                         With another podcast.
                                         
                                         And I'm drinking a trip.
                                         
                                         Oh, I'm drinking something really cool that I actually can't wait to tell you about, which I've just been introduced to.
                                         
                                         Oh, go on.
                                         
                                         Tell them.
                                         
                                         It's called Vinca.
                                         
    
                                         And guys, it's organic wine.
                                         
                                         And they have red, white and rose.
                                         
                                         I'm just going to read you the blurb because I read it out to everyone earlier.
                                         
                                         I'm going to do it again.
                                         
                                         Sorry, I'm such an old woman.
                                         
                                         I'm just going to read the blurb.
                                         
                                         Organic wine, recyclable cans, carbon offset shipping, crisp wine.
                                         
                                         So good.
                                         
    
                                         You'll be wondering why you've never had it from a can before.
                                         
                                         Finca is grown under the Sicilian sun, made by wine lovers and canned with the planet in mind.
                                         
                                         Where's Sicily?
                                         
                                         Italy.
                                         
                                         It's gorgeous.
                                         
                                         Stunning.
                                         
                                         Gorgeous.
                                         
                                         Absolutely stunning.
                                         
    
                                         Sip straight from the can.
                                         
                                         Well, go on then, slap away.
                                         
                                         I think I might be, you know, a bit more sophisticated in pointing to the wine glass I've got next to me.
                                         
                                         I feel like the things with these cans,
                                         
                                         and they're so good,
                                         
                                         but they have to be ice cold.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but something about drinking from a can
                                         
                                         sometimes tastes gross.
                                         
    
                                         Do agree.
                                         
                                         It doesn't taste as good from the wine glass,
                                         
                                         but very convenient.
                                         
                                         You know, a lot of my friends use it.
                                         
                                         Do you know what someone told me once?
                                         
                                         Tinny.
                                         
                                         Cans, you should never drink from them.
                                         
                                         Guess why?
                                         
    
                                         Rats piss on them.
                                         
                                         Rats.
                                         
                                         I'm the one who told you that.
                                         
                                         No, no.
                                         
                                         I had it on Vogue Williams podcast
                                         
                                         oh
                                         
                                         my mum's always told that
                                         
                                         ever since I was a child
                                         
    
                                         she never ever let us drink
                                         
                                         like coke out of a can
                                         
                                         nothing
                                         
                                         she was like rats
                                         
                                         we ate all over it
                                         
                                         I sometimes question
                                         
                                         whether a rat has been in my house
                                         
                                         like that
                                         
    
                                         there was a rat in my garden
                                         
                                         did I send you the video
                                         
                                         no no
                                         
                                         my sister will never speak to you again
                                         
                                         like she has the biggest phobia
                                         
                                         so does my friend
                                         
                                         my sister will see a rat
                                         
                                         and she'll throw up
                                         
    
                                         that was once a rat
                                         
                                         rat
                                         
                                         I think that was probably
                                         
                                         oh my god
                                         
                                         no I know I can't
                                         
                                         they're also quite big
                                         
                                         and scary
                                         
                                         like the ones in the country
                                         
    
                                         are literally like
                                         
                                         a big fat cat
                                         
                                         rats
                                         
                                         a big fat cat
                                         
                                         they're like a big
                                         
                                         huge fat cat
                                         
                                         right I'm giving this a smell
                                         
                                         it's actually so nice
                                         
    
                                         really doesn't he
                                         
                                         swear
                                         
                                         unreal white wine
                                         
                                         so kicking off kicking off with the old sweet or dry yeah go on then ordering for you at a restaurant depends totally depends i think if we're in a sushi restaurant at this point someone
                                         
                                         should know toby and jamie for example know what we want hopefully they'd order for us that's fine with me yeah if it's like a newly dating stage and they just
                                         
                                         like i've seen it in movies you know and they go we'll have two of the lobster fuck off excuse me
                                         
                                         yeah no sick not that i'm saying no to lobster but do you know what i mean like you know like
                                         
                                         also how dare you think that you know what i want and like it's just no it's just very like showy
                                         
    
                                         and just cringe like you're a bit inconsiderate it's just, no. It's just very showy and just cringe.
                                         
                                         And also a bit inconsiderate.
                                         
                                         And also just very chauvinistic.
                                         
                                         Like, no.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I can't imagine me being like, although I do sometimes order for Jamie.
                                         
                                         I think it depends on circumstance, guys.
                                         
                                         I think if they're going to order shitloads, go for it.
                                         
    
                                         You know, if you're on a first date and you want to order loads,
                                         
                                         you're like, I want this, that, and the other.
                                         
                                         And then you're like, I don't want to look like a greedy pig. But they're like'll have like we'll taste it all like jamie orders so much i'd be like i'm in love i think if they say to you it's so circumstantial
                                         
                                         so in that scenario if they're like okay i just i know the menu so well do you mind if i just get a
                                         
                                         bunch of stuff there's anything in particular that you love yeah and you say yeah this this and this
                                         
                                         but happy for you to order i think that's. If they automatically just order for you without even asking.
                                         
                                         And also, I'm like really not into the one meal thing.
                                         
                                         I like to share.
                                         
    
                                         It would like ick me out if we just both had like a pasta each.
                                         
                                         I'd be like, this is like, it's intense.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         I feel like a date should be a bit like, oh, should we try this?
                                         
                                         Picky bits in the garden vibes.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         I do agree.
                                         
                                         But then at this stage of our relationship fine if someone orders for me
                                         
    
                                         and like they know that I would like that but no no Jamie can never I order for Jamie I think
                                         
                                         but just I don't think I've actually ever ordered for him he wouldn't order for me but like
                                         
                                         if I was in the bathroom and I was like order for me it's fine that's all right with me god I would
                                         
                                         never trust Jamie to do that he'd get me like a veal I ordered myself the most rogue meal last
                                         
                                         night I went out for an Italian there's nothing nothing worse. So many. Oh my God. I saw someone really famous in the restaurant last night.
                                         
                                         Her name's not Shirley Temple, but do you know the woman that I mean?
                                         
                                         Do you know the woman that I mean?
                                         
                                         She's so famous.
                                         
    
                                         Like you don't even know her name.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Shirley Temple.
                                         
                                         I thought that was a drink.
                                         
                                         She's an older lady.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it is a drink.
                                         
                                         She's an older lady.
                                         
                                         She's got brown hair.
                                         
    
                                         She was in that TV show, The Royals.
                                         
                                         Her name's Sharon something.
                                         
                                         Sharon Stone.
                                         
                                         No, it's not Sharon Stone. Who is it then? Oh my God. Oh my God. Right. Hold on. The Royals. She was in The tv show the royals she's her name is sharon something sharon stone no it's not sharon stone is it there oh my god right hold on the royals she was in the royals joan collins guys
                                         
                                         she looked fabulous covered in jewels oh my god i bet she's so she where were you so we were on
                                         
                                         this um fan fan tianu i've been to this italian yeah loads chelsea yeah in worlds end we have a
                                         
                                         rogue location i always know it's a lovely little Italian, isn't it?
                                         
                                         But it's such a good Italian.
                                         
    
                                         Do you know who Jamie saw the other day?
                                         
                                         Who?
                                         
                                         You know the girl who Justin Bieber made famous?
                                         
                                         Wolfie Cindy.
                                         
                                         Wolfie Cindy.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Frick, that's...
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And she was with...
                                         
                                         Ali G.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         As in the rubber.
                                         
                                         No, wait, the footballer, Ali G.
                                         
                                         What's her name?
                                         
                                         No, no, no.
                                         
                                         Di Ali.
                                         
    
                                         Di Ali.
                                         
                                         Ali.
                                         
                                         Dali Ali.
                                         
                                         Dali Ali!
                                         
                                         They must be a thing now.
                                         
                                         Ali G
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         tell me everything
                                         
    
                                         head to toe
                                         
                                         do you fancy her
                                         
                                         what she look like
                                         
                                         he was like
                                         
                                         well she's average
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         well she's fucking nice
                                         
                                         you don't lie to me
                                         
    
                                         I'm obsessed with her
                                         
                                         okay right
                                         
                                         moving on to the next one
                                         
                                         this is going to make me out
                                         
                                         and I know my answer
                                         
                                         is immediately
                                         
                                         boys having long fingernails
                                         
                                         you're absolutely dead to me
                                         
    
                                         it's the biggest ick
                                         
                                         in the entire world
                                         
                                         sort yourself out
                                         
                                         I don't think I've ever seen
                                         
                                         someone go
                                         
                                         there is someone
                                         
                                         who was like
                                         
                                         country yeah I know
                                         
    
                                         in Mykonos or in Bali
                                         
                                         they had two really long fingernails
                                         
                                         the thumb and the finger
                                         
                                         yeah in the Masai Mara
                                         
                                         when I went on a safari
                                         
                                         they had a very long claw
                                         
                                         and I think it was to scoop
                                         
                                         their poo out
                                         
    
                                         I'm not joking
                                         
                                         someone told me that
                                         
                                         maybe my dad was like they're poo out of what their butt that's yes emily singh is true one long claw it
                                         
                                         cold round i i swear i think maybe it was an old tradition they just carry on because surely they
                                         
                                         have loo roll but maybe they don't they did live holy shit it. It was the pinky finger. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
                                         
                                         They tried to feed me blood from a cow.
                                         
                                         I was like, no.
                                         
                                         No, I'm out.
                                         
    
                                         And then someone tried to buy my sister with cows to my dad.
                                         
                                         He offered my dad 10 cows to buy my sister.
                                         
                                         I'm not lying.
                                         
                                         He painted her.
                                         
                                         He was so in love with her.
                                         
                                         He was called like Jodie or something.
                                         
                                         We really liked him.
                                         
                                         Okay, I'm not going to either of these countries that Chevron, you just said,
                                         
    
                                         because I don't want to have my pee scooped out with a fingernail.
                                         
                                         It was lovely.
                                         
                                         We saw loads of animals.
                                         
                                         We went and did a dance
                                         
                                         with the people in Masai Mara.
                                         
                                         Where is Masai Mara?
                                         
                                         Kenya.
                                         
                                         Gorgeous.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I nearly got mad.
                                         
                                         The fingernail thing, though,
                                         
                                         is just not a vibe.
                                         
                                         There's nowhere in hell I can accept that.
                                         
                                         Chop those fingernails.
                                         
                                         It's not for me.
                                         
                                         It's not for me.
                                         
    
                                         Like, really bitten fingernails are gross, too,
                                         
                                         but also I'd take that.
                                         
                                         I would take that over a long fingernail any day of the week.
                                         
                                         I don't like a boy having any white.
                                         
                                         Like no white.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I agree.
                                         
                                         Like.
                                         
    
                                         You know what I remember really well?
                                         
                                         Do you remember the Guinness World Book of Records?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Do you remember the people that had really long fingernails?
                                         
                                         Curly, curly, curly.
                                         
                                         Why would they curl like that?
                                         
                                         Because they curl over.
                                         
                                         That's like the Masamaru people.
                                         
    
                                         How do people back in the day before nail clippers clip their toenails i still think we were clawing on stuff like hard walls and stuff like that
                                         
                                         no you did not go oh talking to you just gonna file those nails i pictured them having very long
                                         
                                         talons like queen elizabeth back in the day yeah what the hell did they do because they were very
                                         
                                         well groomed thinking about it like they were not they really smell badly no but I mean there's no paintings of people with like you never see their hands
                                         
                                         long nails
                                         
                                         mmm that's true
                                         
                                         and they had so much
                                         
                                         makeup on
                                         
    
                                         apparently underneath
                                         
                                         it was filled
                                         
                                         with like
                                         
                                         salt
                                         
                                         cold sores
                                         
                                         because they were
                                         
                                         so dirty
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         oh
                                         
                                         it's true right
                                         
                                         really
                                         
                                         I'm looking at Kat
                                         
                                         for reassurance
                                         
                                         everything I say
                                         
                                         we always do that
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
    
                                         you did not
                                         
                                         do
                                         
                                         history
                                         
                                         so last week
                                         
                                         or whenever it was
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         when you
                                         
                                         I know it was when me and you
                                         
    
                                         were doing it together
                                         
                                         responses to sweet or dry
                                         
                                         do you remember
                                         
                                         when we said like
                                         
                                         and someone's sucking
                                         
                                         your nipples
                                         
                                         and they say
                                         
                                         call your mummy
                                         
    
                                         so people have written
                                         
                                         about that
                                         
                                         do you want to read
                                         
                                         the first one
                                         
                                         my ex once said to me
                                         
                                         please can I have some milk
                                         
                                         for my tea
                                         
                                         barred him from
                                         
    
                                         ever going near my nipples
                                         
                                         again after that he went up to him and went I think it's quite funny so you were second
                                         
                                         but he was joking for my tea I think that's quite funny that's obviously not like deeply sexual
                                         
                                         like serious yes that's fine but it's quite jakes has anyone ever sucked on your nipple
                                         
                                         so if you're not going to discuss my sex life could be like
                                         
                                         a sexual thing but i meant in like a jokey way like oh can i have some milk
                                         
                                         because it has to mean my nipples have been sucked yes
                                         
                                         no like i don't really know what you want me to say okay moving on this reminds me of when i
                                         
    
                                         started chatting to this guy first time i met him he came over to mine on his lunch break and we started kissing he took out my boob and fell on my nipple clearly the only experience he had on of sex from
                                         
                                         was from porn that happens quite a lot so he just snapped slapped the nipple that would be
                                         
                                         fucking really hard i actually don't like sometimes i'm like whoa kept steady on like my nipples hurt
                                         
                                         like that's not a nice feeling do you know what i mean i don't know you keep asking me and i'm not going to discuss my sex life i like my nipples
                                         
                                         being stuck that's what i'm saying she keeps asking me like oh my god okay right i was seeing
                                         
                                         this guy after having a baby with a different man and he would suck my nipples and say feed me
                                         
                                         because a tiny bit of milk would come out i must say though like if i
                                         
                                         was really in love with somebody like i would be quite intrigued it wouldn't gross me out to have
                                         
    
                                         their listen listen listen if i'm having a baby with tabie and i i wouldn't like i'm gonna freak
                                         
                                         out if he was like i want to try like literally like lick a tiny bit just to try out curiosity
                                         
                                         probably wants to know what don't suck from my nipple and then eat the milk no no that's
                                         
                                         anyway so what's the difference there's no milk coming out, Sophie.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but if you were pregnant. I'm not with a child.
                                         
                                         But it is like quite an,
                                         
                                         it's an interesting thing,
                                         
                                         but weird that it's not his child.
                                         
    
                                         Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         It is weird
                                         
                                         because it's almost like
                                         
                                         just some strange instinct.
                                         
                                         I think if you've got like
                                         
                                         really bad anxiety
                                         
                                         or like you've got like some,
                                         
                                         you can get like a twitch
                                         
    
                                         where you have sex with your partner
                                         
                                         and you picture like your mum
                                         
                                         and your dad.
                                         
                                         It's like Chana from Friends
                                         
                                         and he's like trying to get,
                                         
                                         he's trying to relate
                                         
                                         and he's like,
                                         
                                         you know you're having sex
                                         
    
                                         and then like your mum pops into your head and and he's like trying to get he's trying to relate and he's like you know you're you're having sex and then like your mom pops into your head and then he's like
                                         
                                         what the fuck is wrong with you i don't know about it he's like no that doesn't happen to me
                                         
                                         mom is absolutely stunned yeah she is i've been watching it for a while i haven't watched tv
                                         
                                         in do you have a tv in your ages yes i. Thank God. I feel like you've been living quite a like...
                                         
                                         I just don't have any time to fucking watch TV.
                                         
                                         I make dinner and I'm exhausted.
                                         
                                         I watch TV whilst I'm making dinner.
                                         
                                         Like I always have it in the background.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I have it in the background,
                                         
                                         but it's not like directly like in my kitchen.
                                         
                                         I guess you're kitchen now.
                                         
                                         It's slightly like, which is quite nice.
                                         
                                         Like I'm not on as much screen.
                                         
                                         I don't have as much screen time these days.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I don't think if I am.
                                         
    
                                         I just don't have TV on.
                                         
                                         Like I'm almost like more engaged. with like my partner i guess we like speak more
                                         
                                         why am i being so formal with my partner god no i'm like when toby's around we chat more because
                                         
                                         we don't watch tv as much it's quite lovely actually that is lovely you should really do
                                         
                                         that it's just sometimes you just want to go back and not talk yeah you know but we have nights off
                                         
                                         very different to you and jamie you're with together 20 every night toby i have night sauce and it's like i do
                                         
                                         have like just time to myself to like recharge those batteries and then when you see me you
                                         
                                         want to chat you've got loads yeah exactly stunning okay dilemma one i love the podcast
                                         
    
                                         and listen religiously every week i was hoping you can give me some advice on a dilemma and i
                                         
                                         hoped i would never i hoped I would never have to experience.
                                         
                                         Oh no.
                                         
                                         Oh no.
                                         
                                         Oh no.
                                         
                                         I've read the first sentence.
                                         
                                         My boyfriend of four years
                                         
                                         recently cheated on me.
                                         
    
                                         I was on holiday
                                         
                                         visiting a friend
                                         
                                         and whilst I was away
                                         
                                         he went to a house party
                                         
                                         and got completely wasted
                                         
                                         and slept with a girl.
                                         
                                         Fuck.
                                         
                                         This really terrifies me.
                                         
    
                                         This terrifies me.
                                         
                                         No, Toby is not going to do that.
                                         
                                         It just terrifies me for anyone.
                                         
                                         Oh right, okay, fine. You think by four years you. It just terrifies me for anyone. Oh, right.
                                         
                                         You think by four years,
                                         
                                         you're fully locked and loaded
                                         
                                         and you trust, trust, trust.
                                         
                                         I need a bit of background.
                                         
    
                                         Like, how old are they?
                                         
                                         I know that shouldn't really count,
                                         
                                         but do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Oh, right.
                                         
                                         Okay, right.
                                         
                                         This is, we're getting some details.
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
                                         I just am madly freaking out for everyone.
                                         
    
                                         He FaceTimed me the next morning
                                         
                                         and told me straight away.
                                         
                                         Said it was the biggest mistake of his life
                                         
                                         and he feels sick, et cetera.
                                         
                                         He told me that he will... Oh, fuck. I'm honestly like, I don't know why it's like really affecting me. He told me straight away said it was the biggest mistake of his life and he feels sick etc he told me he will oh fuck i'm honestly like i don't know why it's like really affecting
                                         
                                         me he told me that he will understand whatever decision i come to but that it meant absolutely
                                         
                                         nothing to him and he realized that he thinks he has some deep-rooted issues that he needs to be
                                         
                                         that needs to sort out he thinks he can prove him prove himself worth my while and that we can
                                         
    
                                         continue to have a happy life together we have
                                         
                                         honestly the happiest relationship up to this point and nothing like this has ever happened
                                         
                                         before we live together practically our entire relationship and he is my best friend i love him
                                         
                                         so much i can't imagine my life without him no i feel really sad we've even spoken a lot about
                                         
                                         marriage and it was on the cards from him to potentially propose this year i'm 26 he's 28
                                         
                                         i've also always maintained that cheating would
                                         
                                         be an absolute deal breaker so i'm worried i'll mug myself off of off if i stay my heart is telling
                                         
                                         me to move past this as i absolutely as i honestly cannot comprehend living my life without him do
                                         
    
                                         you think it's possible to move past something like this this is honestly my worst nightmare
                                         
                                         and i'm utterly heartbroken like i feel that i I feel- I feel sick for you. I really feel for you.
                                         
                                         I feel like I should be telling you to walk away
                                         
                                         and look, perhaps you should,
                                         
                                         but I think you need to understand.
                                         
                                         I would not be with him for now.
                                         
                                         Like you both separate yourself,
                                         
                                         but I would understand what happened
                                         
    
                                         if he said he's got problems.
                                         
                                         Like why?
                                         
                                         I don't understand.
                                         
                                         It doesn't really make sense.
                                         
                                         Like I personally wouldn't be able to forgive that.
                                         
                                         I would not be able to forgive someone having sex personally. No matter how like I personally wouldn't be able to I would not
                                         
                                         be able to forgive someone having no matter how much I love them I think I would I would resent
                                         
                                         them forever yeah and I would think about it every time they tried to kiss me and like it was just
                                         
    
                                         like how does that happen there is I think 100 choices that you have to make to actually sleep
                                         
                                         with someone yeah you kiss them you kiss them there's however many kisses that
                                         
                                         you do there's a decision of taking all of your clothes off there's a decision of actually oh no
                                         
                                         no putting your penis inside another person there's a decision of maybe putting a condom
                                         
                                         on taking it out of the wrapper do you know what i mean it's a decision to keep on going decisions
                                         
                                         before you even get the way into the vagina to me it's it's not a mistake it's a full-on choice
                                         
                                         and i think it's like it just seems very
                                         
                                         strange if they were so happy like what could have possessed him to go to that level like that
                                         
    
                                         to me doesn't feel like he was happy I know that perhaps you were happy but potentially he just
                                         
                                         hid something very well like that maybe he is 28 maybe you're getting married and maybe you know
                                         
                                         you were talking about proposals and he thought pan panicked. I don't know. I personally, for peace of mind,
                                         
                                         would have to hear him out
                                         
                                         and really get to the root of it.
                                         
                                         But I would consider that this is hard to get over
                                         
                                         and that potentially you may not get over it
                                         
                                         and it might be easier to walk away.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Harder initially,
                                         
                                         but better in the long run, probably.
                                         
                                         Do you want to be with someone
                                         
                                         that can do that to you
                                         
                                         after four years of being together and like really look inside yourself like there's no harm in always
                                         
                                         like trying to make it work and if you don't make it work you tried but i i know that i probably
                                         
                                         couldn't make it work like i don't think i could get over i couldn't get over that four years no
                                         
    
                                         no no not sex i just it's so weird he called her as well like it does seem like he made a
                                         
                                         genuine mistake but that's not a mistake that's just it's a choice it's a choice decision it's
                                         
                                         not like someone like fell over and fell onto your lap and by accident you could pet their cheek
                                         
                                         or like you know like a kiss sometimes you get linger not me but you know i can imagine people
                                         
                                         like talking something happens and then you pull away yeah yeah yeah this is like a very different story ultimately it's down to you whether you could get over it
                                         
                                         but I am concerned that you are very young and you have your whole life ahead of you like do
                                         
                                         you really want to have that at the beginning of a relationship lingering over you for all these
                                         
                                         years no no no I think that you need to i personally my advice to you would be to walk away it will be fucking hard because it's
                                         
    
                                         just come to such an abrupt end and it's almost unnatural because you haven't started to fall
                                         
                                         out of love there hasn't been problems in your relationship where you know it's coming and yada
                                         
                                         yada yada it's just a heartbreak also it's like such a gut-wrenching like thing in your stomach
                                         
                                         when you can when they've slept with someone else such a shock such a shock I would for peace of mind have to find more about
                                         
                                         it although maybe I would just be like see you bye you're done because I think that is quite what I
                                         
                                         would do me too I also think like finding out what else is there to find out they've had sex like how
                                         
                                         is knowing more details about it gonna make you feel any better and like he's probably going oh I
                                         
                                         felt anxious or you know I was worried about like committing or something.
                                         
    
                                         But like that's bullshit.
                                         
                                         Everyone has situations like you're loyal to your partner.
                                         
                                         He knew that he was going to lose you the moment he did that.
                                         
                                         And he did it anyway.
                                         
                                         So to me, that is the worst thing ever.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         I'm fucking sorry.
                                         
                                         But you will get through.
                                         
    
                                         I know it's like it feels like the end of the universe but
                                         
                                         sometimes people are shits and you know what it'll make you stronger and you you know don't let this
                                         
                                         affect you going forward trust wise because yeah this is this is on him not you yeah and this is
                                         
                                         also quite like I would say not unusual because obviously cheating happens a lot but I would say
                                         
                                         this is not something that happens with people after being together for four years all the time do you
                                         
                                         know what I mean like don't let this bother you with future relationships if that's what I'm trying
                                         
                                         to say yeah no exactly and just also you know look at the good times but also you might need
                                         
                                         to hate him for a while just to get over it yeah and like block him out I kind of want a bit more
                                         
    
                                         like if you could follow up on this
                                         
                                         follow up with us
                                         
                                         and like just let us know
                                         
                                         how you're doing
                                         
                                         basically
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         but we're sending you
                                         
                                         so much love
                                         
    
                                         so much love
                                         
                                         and I'm so sorry
                                         
                                         this has happened to you
                                         
                                         okay
                                         
                                         we've got dilemma two
                                         
                                         hi girls
                                         
                                         I have a situation
                                         
                                         I'm not sure how to fill
                                         
    
                                         I suffer from anxiety
                                         
                                         and so I got prescribed
                                         
                                         a low dose of antidepressants
                                         
                                         I was told by the GP
                                         
                                         that while
                                         
                                         the medication settles into my system I may feel worse for a couple of weeks. She was correct as
                                         
                                         for two weeks I felt like hell. I was crying every day and felt awful. After this passed I feel great
                                         
                                         though. I've been with my boyfriend for six years, he's 29 and I'm 27. I told him what I was going
                                         
    
                                         through and there were a couple times I called him crying because I felt so anxious. I told him what I was going through and there were a couple of times I called him crying because I felt so anxious. I expected him to comfort and reassure me, but it was like he didn't know what to do or say.
                                         
                                         He's a very logical person.
                                         
                                         I felt like he didn't get it.
                                         
                                         One night, as we said goodnight over the phone, I felt so anxious and asked him if I could stay on the phone until I fell asleep.
                                         
                                         He replied, no.
                                         
                                         I felt so alone.
                                         
                                         That's me.
                                         
                                         The next day, he said that I wasn't helping myself and I couldn't just expect him to make me feel happy
                                         
    
                                         and me crying was getting him down.
                                         
                                         It was only a couple of days where I lent him for support
                                         
                                         and opened up about how I was feeling.
                                         
                                         Now I'm thinking about the future.
                                         
                                         What if I ever have postnatal depression?
                                         
                                         Will I always be going through things alone?
                                         
                                         Not sure how to feel.
                                         
                                         Was I meant to just suck it up and go on with it?
                                         
    
                                         Or should he have been more
                                         
                                         sensitive to what was going on I do think he should have been a bit more sensitive like I
                                         
                                         don't think there's any harm in someone being like of course I'll stay up with you if you're
                                         
                                         upset like that's not that difficult I think sometimes boys just don't understand but I don't
                                         
                                         think that's nice and it's the wrong thing to do I think regardless you feeling anxious if you're
                                         
                                         just like can you stay out I'm having a shitty night let's just stay can you just stay up on the phone to me all night i feel
                                         
                                         really crap he should just be like why was he just like no yeah it's really mean it's just mean yeah
                                         
                                         it's really mean i would just be really open with him and be like that would put me off someone i
                                         
    
                                         wouldn't want to be around them i know like i would not want to be in their company and it
                                         
                                         also like you're obviously going through a really hard time so i'm so sorry that you
                                         
                                         the one person who's meant to be sort of your rock
                                         
                                         is not being your rock.
                                         
                                         I think you need to just have the conversation with him.
                                         
                                         He probably doesn't realise.
                                         
                                         Also, it's very selfish.
                                         
                                         It's like you're making me feel anxious.
                                         
    
                                         That is very selfish.
                                         
                                         That's the worst thing you can say to somebody.
                                         
                                         It's like, well, sorry, what am I meant to do about it?
                                         
                                         Fucking hell.
                                         
                                         Sometimes I saw something really interesting
                                         
                                         and it was like the secret to a marriage
                                         
                                         is not like both of you giving like 100%
                                         
                                         all the time or 50 50 that's just not how it works sometimes one person can only give 10%
                                         
    
                                         so your partner then goes right I'm gonna make up for the other 90 yeah you want to pick each
                                         
                                         other make this work and like that's just what happens in relationship and sometimes if it goes
                                         
                                         on for a long time then maybe there needs to be like you know like you just need to sit down and have a conversation like okay we're both feeling like this how do
                                         
                                         we make it work how can i help you how can i support you ultimately it just depends on how
                                         
                                         much you want to help each other how much you want to be together it sounds like he's pretty
                                         
                                         selfish to be like oh don't yeah like that's just so not a lot i don't like that at all personally
                                         
                                         and i think that's gonna make you feel more shit because you'll be like oh i don't know
                                         
                                         and then like you need to almost like fake not being anxious.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I don't like that.
                                         
                                         I think you need to put yourself first.
                                         
                                         You're doing like, you know, you're obviously looking after yourself.
                                         
                                         You went to a GP and look, everything passes.
                                         
                                         I've had such bad anxiety.
                                         
                                         So I really feel for you, but it will get better.
                                         
                                         And, you know, do exactly what your GP does and be with people that you love.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But she's saying she feels better now because of the medication,
                                         
                                         but she's now looking back like, fuck, you were really shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that would make me...
                                         
                                         So if I get it again, like, what are you going to be like?
                                         
                                         You want to be with a partner that you want to go to war with, right?
                                         
                                         You don't want to be...
                                         
                                         God, Jamie would not want to go to war with me.
                                         
    
                                         No, but, like, do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Like, you can't just be like, oh, you're going to run away
                                         
                                         at the first fucking, like, hurdle.
                                         
                                         Like, I'm going through a shit time, you're going to go, oh, you're making me feel bad, but... do you know what i mean like you can't just be like oh you're gonna run away at the first fucking like hurdle i'm going through a shit time you're gonna go oh
                                         
                                         you're making me feel bad but are you like that's just what yeah like grow up and also like that's
                                         
                                         just not being a team at all no it's not especially when someone's going through a bad time like
                                         
                                         that's just not nice it would be very off-putting to me and i think you know just i would talk to
                                         
                                         him about it and see how he reacts and then make your decision from there but keep an eye out and just put yourself first also sometimes boys can be a bit i don't know it's just
                                         
    
                                         such a generalization but they can just be a bit like not emotionally intelligent so maybe you do
                                         
                                         just need to really like explain it to him be like if you're going through a bad time like this is
                                         
                                         what i would do for you and i wasn't really asking for much like do you understand kind of thing
                                         
                                         yeah i just get a bad vibe from that guy.
                                         
                                         Me too, I'm not sure about that.
                                         
                                         You're not helping yourself.
                                         
                                         We've been together for a long time.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I know.
                                         
    
                                         We can't throw this away necessarily,
                                         
                                         but I do think conversations definitely need to be had.
                                         
                                         The next dilemma looks unreal.
                                         
                                         Dilemma three.
                                         
                                         Dirty texts and drunk sex.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         This is like it's going to be written really well.
                                         
                                         Our housemates are having an affair. Sorry, this is like. Hey girls be written really well our housemates are having an affair sorry this is
                                         
    
                                         like hey girls we've had this dilemma going on in our student house the past few months and
                                         
                                         following on from your last episode about friendship wanted your opinion slash advice
                                         
                                         on how we move forward i have lived in the same same mate but student house the past three years
                                         
                                         but last summer two of our housemates moved out so he had another to move in that we knew through
                                         
                                         mutual friends one of our housemates let's call her emily had a boyfriend however she very quickly got close
                                         
                                         to the other only straight housemate for example she withdrew from friendships within the house
                                         
                                         even the only girl she was friends with before moving in having secret sleepovers in each other's
                                         
                                         rooms on their own floor we have also caught them holding hands cuddling and even grinding on life no no no no i'm sorry grinding i want someone to do it and honestly it felt like
                                         
    
                                         my child was grinding on a boy i felt ill i was i have to go home i don't know what came over me
                                         
                                         it's really quite a kinky thing to do yeah it was so great back in the day okay we confronted them
                                         
                                         both many times and we're told nothing was going on she even came to us crying about what we had said
                                         
                                         what we had said to them and said i i love my boyfriend nothing is going on i would never do
                                         
                                         that to you all no it's dark i was only looking out for my friend let's call him max because he
                                         
                                         had been a close friend to us all and we didn't want him to get hurt as she cheesed on him
                                         
                                         previously with cheesed on previous boyfriends and had made multiple comments about wanting to
                                         
                                         be single that's just really awkward like when your friends are both in and they're doing that
                                         
    
                                         in front of where's the boyfriend like how's he not caught on to this we eventually had to convince
                                         
                                         ourselves nothing was going on on at all as leaving tent as it was leaving tensions within
                                         
                                         the house however one night we know we shouldn't have done this but we did at a party max was in control of the music and
                                         
                                         passed over his unlocked phone so we did the inevitable explicit and vulgar messages
                                         
                                         asking for shower and drunk sex between them not only confirmed our suspicions that they were
                                         
                                         having an affair but we also found nasty and physical threatening text messages about myself shower and drunk sex between them not only confirmed our suspicions that they were having
                                         
                                         an affair but we also found nasty and physical threatening text messages about myself what and
                                         
                                         the girl she was originally friends with what what sorry this could be like a threatening message
                                         
    
                                         the next day we confronted both of them and she broke up with her boyfriend we didn't know if
                                         
                                         he knows the truth though the conversation with with Max and Emily didn't go well.
                                         
                                         He was on the defense and she was denying and making excuses.
                                         
                                         Going forward, little conversations have been had.
                                         
                                         And although they told us nothing would be happening between them until they moved out,
                                         
                                         they have been on date nights, family visits and holidays booked between them,
                                         
                                         but still denying they are together to us.
                                         
                                         No, sorry, the whole house sounds really toxic.
                                         
    
                                         What the hell?
                                         
                                         Uni just sounds wild
                                         
                                         my uni was not like that
                                         
                                         we were such innocent
                                         
                                         little ladies
                                         
                                         like why are they all
                                         
                                         like trying to kill each other
                                         
                                         why are they threatening
                                         
    
                                         Massachusetts
                                         
                                         it's not right
                                         
                                         we are hurt
                                         
                                         that our four year
                                         
                                         friendship with Max
                                         
                                         has just ended over this
                                         
                                         do you think
                                         
                                         situations like this
                                         
    
                                         can be resolved
                                         
                                         or do you just look back
                                         
                                         at all the memories
                                         
                                         as our friendship
                                         
                                         grouped together
                                         
                                         with sadness
                                         
                                         really appreciate any advice.
                                         
                                         We're not confrontational people
                                         
    
                                         and I've never had a fallout
                                         
                                         like this in my life.
                                         
                                         Sometimes people just drift apart.
                                         
                                         I would just wait
                                         
                                         until Max,
                                         
                                         like just be there for Max.
                                         
                                         They'll break up
                                         
                                         and then he'll come running back
                                         
    
                                         and be like,
                                         
                                         what the fuck was that?
                                         
                                         Sometimes love is blind.
                                         
                                         He's just,
                                         
                                         he's acting poor
                                         
                                         and Max is just getting strung along.
                                         
                                         He's getting strung along
                                         
                                         also like,
                                         
    
                                         probably quite kinky.
                                         
                                         I know exactly what that got, yeah.
                                         
                                         It's secret.
                                         
                                         He was enjoying it. She had a boyfriend. He was like, had a boyfriend he was like it was all about naughty yeah i feel bad for the boyfriend jesus i would just be there for that but sorry that girl no no she doesn't sound
                                         
                                         like a piece of my tea she's she's she's she's not a very loyal girl it's very very odd it's
                                         
                                         very very strange it's good juicy like it only happens at uni do you know what i mean i was like it's not quite the real world at uni but it is very dark it's like you're
                                         
                                         putting your adult hold on on her on hold a little bit so you can get away with all this like wild
                                         
                                         behavior but you've left school so you have the freedom you have the freedom you can literally
                                         
    
                                         just wear pajamas every day i guess in my view the only good thing about it is that they are
                                         
                                         actually together when they go on holidays together like i would just celebrate them being together but she sounds like a nightmare
                                         
                                         she does sound like a nightmare i'd keep out of their way but i just wouldn't give too much
                                         
                                         she's obviously got some commitment so i don't know i mean i would just keep i wouldn't worry
                                         
                                         about it too much he'll come running back this will last two minutes this relationship
                                         
                                         it's not going to go on for very long she'll cheat on him he'll realize that she's maybe like
                                         
                                         she'll get bored if you're not a nice girl and um he'll come running back and be like yeah so sorry
                                         
                                         and what the fuck that was that happens all the time a lot of people go through rogue relationships
                                         
    
                                         and then yeah then they come back particularly boys i think girls can really get a boy under
                                         
                                         their wing and they really go on to their side you know what i mean they will like distance
                                         
                                         from all
                                         
                                         their friends and just become so obsessed with the girls like certain girls can do that that's
                                         
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                                         Okay, story time. Horrendous one night stand. So I've been single now for eight months and I've been trying hard to put myself out there.
                                         
                                         But after last week, I am done.
                                         
                                         After matching with the Sky on Hinge,
                                         
                                         we ended up going for drinks at the Country Pub over the canal.
                                         
                                         The scene sounds perfect, but please wait.
                                         
                                         This sounds good.
                                         
                                         It's the canal that's scaring me.
                                         
    
                                         No, I think quite romantic.
                                         
                                         The wine was flowing and after a stop at two more bars,
                                         
                                         he asked me if I wanted to go back to hits.
                                         
                                         Drunk on wine and too much sunshine, I agreed.
                                         
                                         I agreed and we proceeded to his stunning house in the country.
                                         
                                         Gorgeous.
                                         
                                         Both filled with booze and lacking in dignity.
                                         
                                         One thing led to another and after waking up feeling like my head was going to explode,
                                         
    
                                         he rolled over at 6am and proceeded to tell me that this wasn't his parents.
                                         
                                         Oh, that this was his parents' house.
                                         
                                         And they were hosting breakfast for the extended family,
                                         
                                         bloody 12 of them,
                                         
                                         and that he was going to have to introduce me to them as his girlfriend.
                                         
                                         That's a bit intense.
                                         
                                         I don't really mind that.
                                         
                                         Would you?
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Sorry, after one date?
                                         
                                         Well, it's not like as bad as him being like,
                                         
                                         can you get out?
                                         
                                         At least he likes you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and also he's obviously
                                         
                                         kind of backs himself
                                         
                                         like he doesn't really care
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         as the gracious girl I am
                                         
                                         I pulled on last night's
                                         
                                         respectful outfit
                                         
                                         and spent the next three hours
                                         
                                         unable to leave
                                         
                                         I choked down a continental breakfast
                                         
    
                                         and tried not to vomit up
                                         
                                         the previous night's
                                         
                                         gallons of wine
                                         
                                         oh god
                                         
                                         then played
                                         
                                         balls
                                         
                                         at 9am
                                         
                                         with his uncle
                                         
    
                                         and his uncle's new wife
                                         
                                         while stinking of wine and looking
                                         
                                         after.
                                         
                                         Oh my god, that's so funny.
                                         
                                         Eventually, he dropped me back to my car where I cried all the way home from utter embarrassment
                                         
                                         and shame.
                                         
                                         Needless to say, I haven't spoken to him since and shall not be attending that summer bash
                                         
                                         at the end of the month as requested by his mother.
                                         
    
                                         Oh my god.
                                         
                                         Yours truly, a very embarrassed gal pal.
                                         
                                         Oh my god, I think that sounds like quite a nice story.
                                         
                                         I don't think you should be that embarrassed about it. No no I kind of think that he's got like quite a nice family
                                         
                                         sweet yeah why haven't we gone on a second date why did you get embarrassed I think you're a great
                                         
                                         gal I think this just sounds also like it's really nice I also just love he would have been like you
                                         
                                         need to get out now like you can't meet my family I think he was quite keen on you like he's also
                                         
                                         like quite cute he had like a lovely house in the country with his family yeah gorgeous
                                         
    
                                         I think that maybe we should proceed with this sorry i know you're not asking
                                         
                                         for any advice but i'm giving it to you because i like the sound of this family same i think that
                                         
                                         he sounds like a nice chap he sounds like a lovely chap a lovely chap tiny money messages here we go
                                         
                                         i asked my husband about the no coming when he first started playing with himself
                                         
                                         he confirmed that this is true.
                                         
                                         The first few times he would rub it and apparently orgasm and nothing would come out.
                                         
                                         He then proceeded to tell me that his first time he actually did ejaculate.
                                         
                                         He was so absolutely petrified and didn't do it again for literally months.
                                         
    
                                         He was so, so scared.
                                         
                                         That's so funny.
                                         
                                         Imagine he was like, what the fuck's come out of my body?
                                         
                                         No one warns them.
                                         
                                         You know what's fascinating to me?
                                         
                                         I'm actually not sure if we disclosed this.
                                         
                                         Do you remember the first time in your life where you felt some sort of arousal,
                                         
                                         but you didn't know what the hell it was?
                                         
    
                                         On my foot.
                                         
                                         It was on my foot.
                                         
                                         On gravel.
                                         
                                         It was on gravel in my playground.
                                         
                                         No, to my safety.
                                         
                                         No, no, it's a thing.
                                         
                                         We used to take our shoes off and rub our toes
                                         
                                         and it does something to there.
                                         
    
                                         Fascinating.
                                         
                                         I remember I just used to like want a boy in my bedroom,
                                         
                                         but I didn't know why.
                                         
                                         And I didn't know,
                                         
                                         I obviously didn't know what to do or anything,
                                         
                                         but I was like, why do I,
                                         
                                         why am I thinking about that?
                                         
                                         I didn't understand,
                                         
    
                                         but like it was just instinct.
                                         
                                         I do remember watching Jack Sparrow
                                         
                                         and thinking like my vagina was tingling.
                                         
                                         Jack Sparrow? But like my vagina was tingling.
                                         
                                         Jack Sparrow?
                                         
                                         But I like honestly was like,
                                         
                                         what is that feeling?
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's fascinating.
                                         
    
                                         No one tells you what the hell. Like I didn't understand.
                                         
                                         I was like really uncomfortable with it.
                                         
                                         I was like wiggling around.
                                         
                                         You always feel like you shouldn't feel like that.
                                         
                                         You're like, I feel bad.
                                         
                                         I just felt tickly.
                                         
                                         I was like, oh.
                                         
                                         It's weird.
                                         
    
                                         Sorry, we're really oversharing,
                                         
                                         just being honest.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I really,
                                         
                                         please God,
                                         
                                         say no parents
                                         
                                         I know it's quite
                                         
                                         Fucked up really isn't it
                                         
                                         It is odd
                                         
    
                                         But also it's just
                                         
                                         Human nature
                                         
                                         Do you think we were six
                                         
                                         Well I used to sit on
                                         
                                         Like the hot tub
                                         
                                         When I was like three
                                         
                                         That's true
                                         
                                         And my mum used to be like
                                         
    
                                         Please get off
                                         
                                         I was a young girl
                                         
                                         That's a tough story
                                         
                                         We'll go down in history
                                         
                                         Okay I think we end it there
                                         
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                                         That's it for this week Wednesdays
                                         
                                         But god don't you just fancy some more Melissa?
                                         
                                         Yeah I'd really love a follow up to some of those dilemmas
                                         
                                         I want to know what happens
                                         
                                         Well then tinies we have got some news for you we have launched a premium version of Wednesdays
                                         
                                         now listen subscribers get access to the podcast ad free with bonus episodes it's pretty amazing
                                         
    
                                         it's also packed full of dilemma follow-ups which we love and some of our more personal stories and
                                         
                                         recommendations and it's super easy you just listen on your favorite app how cool is that full of Dilemma follow-ups, which we love, and some of our more personal stories and recommendations.
                                         
                                         And it's super easy.
                                         
                                         You just listen on your favorite app.
                                         
                                         How cool is that?
                                         
                                         Amazing.
                                         
                                         And all the info is in the episode description and in our Insta bio.
                                         
