Wednesdays - 125. Galentine’s Special: MELISSA’S ENGAGED!!

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

Heyyyy Tinies!It’s a very special Galentine’s episode and who better to join Melissa on the pod than Tiny Tim aka Ruby Adler. Ruby’s back from Australia and the timing couldn’t be more pe...rfect because…Melissa’s ENGAGED!! Melissa shares her full engagement story including how Toby got down on one knee and how long Sophie knew about the proposal. Spoiler: it’s been a while!!PLUS, Ruby reveals just how loved up she is with her Australian boyfriend. We’re obsessed.  The girls also chat about the new America’s Next Top Model documentary and all the absolutely wild moments from the show that are still living rent-free in our heads. In this week’s dilemmas, one Tiny is worried because she’s never had a boyfriend. And another Tiny needs urgent advice after a cheating scandal risks splitting her housemates apart…Enjoy the episode x Got a dilemma, some personal advice for a fellow Tiny, or a follow-up to a previous one? Send us a voice note or message on Insta @wednesdayspodcast, or drop us an email at wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.ukInstagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.ukCredits:Executive Producer: Ewan Newbigging-ListerProducer: Helen BurkeAssistant Producer: Issy Weeks-HankinsVideo: Lizzie McCarthySocial: Anthony Barter & Amber Hourigan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hi guys, we've got Ruby here this episode. Oh my God, hey guys. And we're doing a Valentine's special. And I'm also engaged. Yay. Welcome back. This is a Valentine's Day special. And we have the one and only Timothy with us today.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Oh my God. It's so nice to be back. I missed you guys. Rubeth. Hello. Beth. Timmy, Timothy. I'm back on the UK soil.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Literally like what less than 12 hours. Literally. Straight hair. You got her. I got home late last night, went to sleep, woke up this morning, been up since 4 a.m. The jet lag is real. But I actually feel okay.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You must feel like you for the longest day ever. It's so weird, you know what, coming back? Because I was saying this to you earlier. I feel like I'd never left. You just sort of slot back into routine. And like, it almost feels like the last few months have been like, did they happen? And you know why?
Starting point is 00:00:59 I also think because you're staying with your parents. Yeah. Staying in a familiar home. If you were staying in a hotel, you'd probably be like... I'd probably be thrown. It's nice being back with my parents for a bit. My bet. I have missed.
Starting point is 00:01:09 my Timothy so much. Oh my God, we miss each other so much. And also, guys, we, I sat down. We sat down and I propped up my vlogging camera and she was like, why aren't you talking? And I was just like this. Also, can I just say Melissa never props up her blogging camera. I don't. I always forget to vlog. She vlogs at home. I watch her YouTube. I love it. I'm never featured. I, the camera never is propped up. It doesn't leave the house. It was this quite stiff prop up. And then she just stared at me. And I was like trying to fill the silence going, I was like, it's like no time's past him. And then there was nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I was getting nothing back. And I was like, and all this time's gone by. And I was like, what's she doing? Why is she not? And I just like scratched my eye. And then she obviously noticed that I'm engaged. And I was like, and it was so many. She was like, ah!
Starting point is 00:02:01 Just cried. And I cried. I burst into tears. I'm like, this has been the best. S day ever. It was so funny. And I was like, I'm actually really sorry because I got chat lagged and jaded. And I've just gone, boom. It was like, so unexpected. So unexpected. But like the most beautiful surprise ever and the ring and the whole thing. And then we called Toby and I go, I know you waited for me. And he goes, to be fair. He kept asking for him there was like so many moving parts that had to work.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Because he like wanted me to like be able to see everyone before we went to Barbados and like had that time to like celebrate my family. So the fact that you were coming back was like working so. He kept me like, you're seeing Ruby on the Monday. And I was like, yeah, and I was like, yeah, you know that. Why are you so worried about me seeing Ruby? I'm going to see when I get back as well. And he was like, okay. But he did keep asking me.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I'm surprised he didn't message you to be like. No, I didn't. You definitely seemless. I was like, she's doing the podcast with me. We're going for lunch. It's going to be okay. I had no idea. And it was the last thing I was expecting.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But like. Which was so hard for me because obviously yesterday. You just call, you call everyone that you like want to tell people straight away. and we talk most days but I only had to wait a few hours really well I had to wait 24 hours
Starting point is 00:03:14 and then I could tell you at real life I'm so glad you waited because like that face to face reaction and like I'm so happy I got on film too really cried I was really sweet I burst into tears
Starting point is 00:03:27 I like would just like it makes me emotional now I think because I've not seen you in so long and like this is like the new chapter of your life which is so deserved and I know how happy you are And we've also just like, as girls, we've spoken about this moment with one another for like the last however many years. Like when we're going to get engaged, our weddings.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And like now you're in that like whole chapter. Like I'm just so happy. So happy. I love you so much. It's so surreal. Yeah. It's so grown up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And obviously for the boy, because they've thought about it for so long, guys. Sophie Haboo has known about this engagement since September and has been conspiring with Toby. which is mental because that girl is not good at keeping good news in. Like she wants to tell people. She gets so excited. And the amount of times I've complained to him and like, fuck you thought Toby was going to propose to me in Valazir, like, really pissed off.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And so he was like had to be so careful not to like give it away by being like, no, he'd never, she was like, had to double bluff you and be like, no, I'm sure he's going to do it soon. Like it's probably going to be before the summer. Like, it's like, that's so clever. And she said to me, If Toby was going to buy a ring he would definitely ask my advice, wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:04:40 And I was like... So true. But she already knew. He already had. And I was like, no way. I was like, nah, he'll keep that to himself. He'll ask his brothers. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Him and her had this cute system where he'd be like, don't reply unless it's within half an hour because Melissa's going to be back home. They both had each other in their archive chat. And then... There's so much planning, isn't there? With proposing, like you don't realize that because you're being proposed to.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But actually, like, how fun to hear all the stories after, like how he did it. Oh my God, we sat down for two hours and he was just talking to me about everything. It was so fun. So fun. I love Rick as well. Like, I love Toby. I know. He's just such a sweet pee.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He is the best. The videos of him, like, practicing. Oh, my God. She showed me these videos of him. He'd pop the camera up and he was, like, practicing getting down on one knee. And there was a few flips and a few twists. And they are so funny. He's like, they're 360 and, like, just dropping onto one knee.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And I like, it's really funny. It was so good. I want to hear, can we talk, can you talk to me about how it happened because I haven't heard? So, I know it was, you well, you do. In November, there was an incident. It was like a Wednesday morning, the bin men come on a Wednesday. Okay. I remember that. That's relevant. And I was wearing like these rings on my hand, right? And then a ring of my brothers, because he was, which was his pinky ring. And I just stacked it on top of my others. Yeah. For storage purposes to get measured for him, like, later on. His alarms were. He was, which, which, was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He gone off. It's like 7am. Mine doesn't go off until 8. But we always like chat a bit and I'm like you didn't you to get up so much early in than that. I really enjoy my sleep now. Really? I remember
Starting point is 00:06:14 you six, ten hours. I go to bed at 10 and I wake up at eight. I think that's 10 hours. It's a long time. Wow. I'm making the most bit before children come. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm like obviously like kind of awake, but like if someone fiddles about with your fingers, like you're going to be, anyway, this starts happening to me. Oh God. He's slowly on my right hand ring, finger takes off the ring that's on there. The brother's pinky ring. Yes. He slowly thinks he's been really,
Starting point is 00:06:41 as lying taking this ring off and he like pauses for like five minutes. And he goes, just going to go see if the bin men have come. I'm like, watch. With my stacked ring. Really? That makes sense. In the drawer next to the front door, we've got this like unit, right? And there's two drawers above where we keep like keys. And there is a ring sizeer in there, which is like this long stick with all these like
Starting point is 00:07:01 little like round circling things that like, and they sound like jingly. because there's so many of them. The drawer is very squeaky. So I heard this of the draw opening. I'm like, I know what he's doing. And I hear like, dangle, jingle, jingle, jing, jing, jing, jing with the ring. It's just, like, sweet angel. Anyway, so that was that in November, and I was like, hmm,
Starting point is 00:07:25 it was so obvious, surely it can't possibly be that he's measuring my ring for an engagement ring. But then, like, why would he be doing that? In my head, I'd be like. You have such, like, denial. about stuff. I can't describe it. Your mind just play tricks when you're like, no, well, he's doing something else. Surely not. Then it was just on the full front of my mind because I was like, he's got to be proposing soon. And also he was getting annoyed every time a friend got engaged, he'd be like, oh, fuck's sake.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And I'm like, you can propose to me. Yeah, this is on you. You have full control. Yeah. I was like, why are you huffing and buffing? Anyway, so then Baudersair comes with her for Christmas and there's two nights at the end of the trip. I can't. Like, I don't know how life's meant to resume. It's really great, like, washing my face and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I'm like, wow, like cleansing and stuff. Sorry, so Valdezere, I could cut you off. So we go to Valdezere and the last two nights were there alone. Okay. My whole family leaves. And there's this stunning hotel at the top of the mountain called The Refuge. And Toby stayed there, like, years ago on a trip. And he kept banging on for some reason this Christmas about how stunning the sunrise there
Starting point is 00:08:34 is and you can see the mountains and it's so magical and so romantic and blah blah and blah and I thought oh my god he's going to replace me on the last two nights fucking amazing he's going to take me up to the refuge that's why he keeps teeing it up he kept talking about it it's getting to like the third night and I'm like I've got
Starting point is 00:08:50 packed my bag what am I going to take oh my god what am I literally like prepping myself and going through all these things and he goes oh the last night we're here I've actually invited Tom Brake to come over for dinner so all right and I was like Yeah, that's fine. And I was so angry.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Because I really had like heart palpitations, like butterflies. I was so fucking excited. Oh my God, I would be so annoyed. And I think when you really get it in your head, you psyched yourself up. I was so fucking excited. I can't even tell you. I was in such a good mood.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I was so balsing. But also really like nervous. And I was like, oh my God, but whatever doesn't happen and get really disappointed. And then it didn't happen. So I was really disappointed. Did you say this to him? No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I couldn't think of anything worse. And voicing that. but internally yeah I was bummed and obviously Sophie and Hermione knew that that happened so Sophie was like oh my god and then I told Sophie at that point about the ring sizing thing she was like
Starting point is 00:09:44 far sake anyway fast forward to jam there's a Friday night and he's like oh next Friday oh I know what happened when our first date happened like in Lossing Hill where he used to live and like we did these cute things yes in the little yellow door
Starting point is 00:09:59 and there's this sweet little like boutique hotel called the The Lost Poet and we've never stayed there. But I've always said I've wanted to and it just looks so sweet and we've been like, oh yeah, we should do that, we should do that anyway. We drove past it. And I was like, God, we're only like four years too late going to this place. Like we should try and go.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So I was like, oh yeah, that's a nice idea. A week later he goes, oh, Friday. Look the lost poet. And I was like, sweet, but I can't go. I've got plans. Like, I've got a birthday. Why would you book something and not fucking ask me? He was like, oh, he looked really disappointed. And I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:32 sweet pee was maybe planning on doing something but then I was like maybe surely not because I literally asked him to put him under pressure but then I also thought really good double bluff him yeah clever because he never normally book stuff unless I ask him right yeah so it would be very obvious if he suddenly did yeah so we didn't go and then he was like all right well Sunday I booked to roast keep Sunday free we'll do day day like it'll be our date night version instead of doing on Friday and I was like okay fine and I just like had this I just had it in my head that it was like coming and I was like is it gonna be on Sunday and then he kept three me off by being like, oh yeah, my brothers are going to pop over quickly in the morning.
Starting point is 00:11:06 We're going to have a coffee with them before they go off to Dubai. And I was like, right, is surely not fucking happening? Because he keeps inviting people over. And I, you're like, when's it just going to be us to? And I was just like, this is just not right. Anyway, morning off, which is actually yesterday. Reporting live from the engagement bubble. He wakes up like really early.
Starting point is 00:11:28 He said he woke up from like 4 a.m. every hour, like Christmas morning. He was like, when can I do it? When can I wake her up? He was so excited. Anyway, he wakes me up. He's like, I'm just going to go get some bits for the house. And I was like, what? Some bits for the house.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It's 8 a.m. on like Sunday. And like, what bits? He was like, shh, just bits. I'm just going to do some errands. And I was like, right, the errands card. Because that happens every Valentine's Day when he nips out to get flowers. Lost bin flowers. The panic.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Anyway, this is like couldn't be more Tobycoded if you try. this whole proposal. It's like the best thing I thought. It's so good. So he goes out, obviously gets some flowers and stuff, sweet pee. And he like set up all these candles around the fireplace and lit them all. But he said to me, he was like, we're going to go for a coffee when I get back so he'd be ready. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So I put my gym kit, like brush my teeth. You're upstairs. I'm upstairs. I can hear him fiddling about downstairs at this point. So I like, what's he doing down there? I come charging down the stairs. I've got Bridgeton on my phone like this, like charging down the stairs. And I go, and I can see him like holding a.
Starting point is 00:12:31 camera and there's like all these candles and flowers and he's like you weren't meant to come down yet can you go back upstairs? Oh my god. Did you know at that moment? I knew. I went back upstairs. I sat on the bed and I was like oh my god, like had like a few minutes to myself like looking in the mirror and I was like oh my god this is actually really happening and if it doesn't happen this is really fucked up because this really looks like a proposal. It was like really nice to go back and like have a moment to myself even that he was like so annoyed I came down too early. But he didn't ask me not to come down. He was just... He probably just thought that you'd just be getting ready upstairs. He also said he didn't have a plan. He was like, I just wanted to like go with the flow. Yeah, I love that. And he was like,
Starting point is 00:13:08 that made me like way more like chill because I wasn't worried about a plan not going correctly. Because like sometimes things, you know, pop up. He was like, what if you didn't feel well? And I planned all this stuff or something. I was like, fine. So then he was like, okay, Melissa, he never calls me Melissa. He always calls me Rick. Melissa, you can calm down. now. Oh my gosh. And he gave down and it was really cute. And he proposed and it was like really special.
Starting point is 00:13:33 He was like all shaking and crying. Yeah. It was like, he was just like, you're my best friend. I love you so much and I want to be with you forever. Well, you marry me. And then it was like. It was really cute. But you kind of, I blacked out.
Starting point is 00:13:47 You said this. You were like. It's like, I can't describe it. I mean, Helen, the producers just got engaged like a month ago. And you probably felt the same. I was saying you fully blacked. out. I'm like, why don't I remember that? So I'm so happy he filmed it because I've like watched it
Starting point is 00:14:00 back like really slowly to try and like take it all in. So yeah. Wow. And then there was surprises after surprises all day with like people coming and celebrating. I didn't know and it was so cute. Oh my God, it sounds perfect. And virtually everybody knew that I was going to
Starting point is 00:14:17 propose to because you told everyone. He was so fucking excited to you say. It's the Christmas morning analogy. That makes me happy. You don't understand when we went to the Cotswiles. Do you remember we did that little trip in like November? Me and Hermione are brownie go upstairs. Toby gets the ring up on his phone and he goes to my friend Jack.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Oh my God. Jack was like, oh my God, she's upstairs and he was like. Oh, I'm so nervous. I know. I'm so excited. Wow. We've got a wedding plan. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:49 That's like the next. And everyone says like just try and chill and enjoy it. You got to enjoy it. But like, what are we doing? When is it? Obviously you'll be a bruntie. bridesmaids. You know what's crazy? There'll be so many bridesmaids. I'm like I can't not have like all my besties. I'll be like 20 girls walking down the aisle. So fun. I can't wait. But I might elope. You never know.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I hope you don't. I'd really like to be there. There's always a part of me that thinks like those smaller weddings seem more romantic in a way when you're like, I just want to be married to you. I don't care about anything else. I agree. I think you can meet it in the middle though. I don't think you have to do a huge. Toby disagrees. He wants a big wedding. Does it? Quite fun, though. So we'll have to see. But unless you start, I was like, it's kind of like buying a house. Unless you look at things and understand what you can afford and like. It's a process. What you actually want and what you like and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's unbelievable. I'm like on cloud nine. I feel like I'm in. No idea, which is so funny. And I'm really running on adrenaline. I was scared that you were going to find out. I had not a clue. To not tell Ruby was really hard. first day. But you were the only person I knew I was seeing tomorrow. I actually didn't think I was
Starting point is 00:16:03 going to see anyone, but then I had to FaceTime them all. They already know it was happening. So they were had to act surprise. And then I saw them all later at a surprise. So I was like, well, I'm not going to call you and tell you because I know I'm seeing you. But all these people, I didn't know I was seeing anyway. I'm so glad you waited. I've literally seen pretty much everyone I love before I leave. So yeah. Wow. We are growing up people. I know. We really are. It's funny, they say, he was like, I just woke up one day and I was ready to buy the ring.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He was like, I always knew I was like ready to propose. But like to buy the ring is like quite a big deal. Of course. And it takes so long. And so he was like, I had to be like, he's like, you just wake up and you're ready one day. Wow. So that's so funny. So did you give Toby any idea of the ring you wanted?
Starting point is 00:16:49 So there was a, I feel, I feel bad because he'd already bought the diamond and I threw him way off. Because I was like, I don't want to like design my own ring. No. But like he knew what I liked. And I once tried on a ring exactly like this. But it was like literally double the size. I remember this day, by the way. Massive.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I remember Melissa sending me this photo being like, I love this ring. And it was literally like seven carous. It was huge. But it was like sat like this and like all these cool things and the shape was the same. By the way, you have a rock on your hand. Like that ring is like, he's done so well. It's unbelievable. There was also so many other giveaways.
Starting point is 00:17:27 was him freaking out about other people posing and he was like, this has got to be lab, right? Like, this is obviously a lab diamond and it would be a huge diamond. He's like, am I getting ripped off? This is surely lab and I was like, babe, I don't know these people. I know. But it was like, and also like, it was obvious that he was like looking at diamonds. Yeah. And I was like, oh, you sweet pee, that's a real giveaway because you never normally comment on stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:17:51 No, and the fact that he was even paying interest to other people's rings, you'd be like. And normally he said, oh, that's nice. Yeah. And then that's the end of it. So I tried on this big ring. And he was like, that's so cool. And took a photo of it. This is like two years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I remember this happening. I think this is like two years ago. And I was like, okay, great. So we know what we want and you've taken a photo of it. So hopefully that's that. And then this is like October time last year. I was watching a vlog of this influencer. He was doing like an ad for earrings.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And she had all these piercings. And she was talking about her ear stack. blah blah blah blah blah my stack this my stack that Toby's next to me brushing his teeth and he goes So what sort of stack do you want then? And I'm like men I love them I love men for like one of these reasons Like they're just like standing in a bathroom like
Starting point is 00:18:42 So what stack do you want like It's not a stack? I was like I don't want to stack I was like their earrings He was like okay but so But stack like do you want I can see him doing that as well I don't want a stack, babes.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I just want one. I just want a gorgeous, gorgeous diamond. Yeah. That's what I want. One is all I want. Anyway, then the next day I was like, oh, he obviously wants some direction, hasn't got a clue. So I'm going to send him a bunch of things that I like.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And guys, I sent him, like, they all had the same shape. They were all, like, a stretched oval. And I like the claws to be, like, this is called a compass setting, not claws, sorry. This is a compass setting. So, like, the claws are at the top and the bottom and the sides rather than in the corners. And my granny has. the same setting so I always wanted that. And, um, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But I sent him all of these different, like, the bands were all different. Some were yellow gold. Some diamonds were champagne diamonds. Did you send him this two weeks ago? No, this is like, with the ring in hand. This is like, this is like October. Okay. And, um, champagne on the band.
Starting point is 00:19:46 No, champagne the main diamond being a champagne diamond. Yeah. I think they're quite cool. I agree. I'm easy. Like whatever you fancy. I want to. these are all the bits that I like
Starting point is 00:19:57 but ultimately it's your choice like you're buying it anyway so then the next thing he was like oh you've changed your mind and I was like what? He was like about the ring you're like I can see him saying it he was like you know you want a champagne diamond and it's all this and I was like oh
Starting point is 00:20:13 I haven't I just wanted to give you a choice and he's like okay fine so I was like are you just I'm so confused anyways I was like surely it's in the works but Also, there was no giveaways by my friends. Not that I was looking out for it, but there was never a time where he was going off to find my friends. Like, she loves a check-in and she loves-pressing every day.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Ruby removed me after a while. I think I got too intense. So she'd be like, what are you doing there? Why are you there? Come meet me. What are you doing in Finchley? Oh, I can see you all there. I'm next door.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm just like, fuck off. No, it was a quite dark place in my life at that point. I was like, I want, no one's nowhere I am. She was being quite shady. is. But I'd have everyone now. I'm on the other side of the world anyway. You probably should. That would be quite fun for me.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I actually. Oh my God. Yeah. Add me actually. When we come off. We're going to have this moment. We're going to do it now on camera. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I'd quite like to watch. I also think that you still got me. I think it says Ruby Adler can see your location. So you can see me. She's having second. Oh, God. I don't have anyone on find my friends. Anyway, it turns out every time he was,
Starting point is 00:21:23 I'm going to shout out the girls who did by ring. It's called Incadour jewelry and she's actually a friend. Her husband is friends with Sophie and they went to uni together and it's all like recycled gold and it's like quite a new sister. The two sisters that set up the company. They're really cute. They've actually, they're like making me a bracelet before. So they had like met once through me and Toby was like it was like word vomit. Guys, this girl works in the power station, right? That's for her offices and Toby's Invisaline and dentist. Is it in the power station? That's how I didn't know there was it because I would have
Starting point is 00:21:55 You would have clocked if you were like Where is he? But like because you knew he was going to batty for the dentist Why would you? Very clever So the only place he went wrong With the measuring of the ring really That was a real giveaway
Starting point is 00:22:08 The bin day. It's absolutely stunning I'm so happy. It also just really suits you like that big diamond wood though Wouldn't it? I think it looks very good He made a really nice choice And he was so pleased
Starting point is 00:22:22 anybody's like, oh, it looks much bigger on your hand, red's mine. I'm like, well, obviously, because your hand is huge. That always works in your favour girls when their hands are big. Yeah, because they like compare it. Yeah, yeah. Good idea. I don't know what Sophie's advice was. I like need to go through their chat and like see what they're. So funny when she first, when he first told her, like, she just sent a photo like,
Starting point is 00:22:41 like, absolutely screaming. She was like, oh my God. Then she was like, I kind of wish he didn't tell me because then I was like, avoiding you because it was so hard not to just like blurt out. especially when I'm whining about the fact he hasn't done it. I know. And I can imagine her just being like, I'm just supposed to say. Imagine I was like, you know, friends if she's like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I can't do it anymore. I'm going to leave him. He's never going to do it. And he had the ring ready to propose. So many people do that either. I bet. The men really leave it to the last minute. I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm so overwhelmed and happy. I almost feel like I'm engaged. It's the best news ever. It's so funny. We just have spoken about this for so many years. weddings and engagement. She was like, has Ruby tried the ring on yet? She's the first thing she said, we called her.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And she goes, as Ruby, I asked to try Tia's engagement ring on the whole time. Because I just like, it's fun. I like playing with it. But I thought it was slightly premature to ask Melissa to try her as long. She only got engaged last night. They will come. I will ask at some point. It's all very exciting.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Anyway, enough of that. I feel like I've spoken about it so much yesterday because every new person that was like coming to the pub, I was then retelling the whole story. And then everyone else had a piece of information for me too, which is also quite fun. Well, like, actually, you know, in the Cotswolds, I was told this. And did you just sit with him afterwards at home and just talk about, like, did he just talk about the last few months? And like, how he asked my dad.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And like, my dad almost blowing cover. My dad was so excited. They were on a chairlift. And then he was like, he was like, I just said what I said to you really. Like, just love her so much. And I was born and maybe with her forever. So, like, did he ask your dad on a chairlift? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:20 He was like, it was the only, on a chairlift. I don't know why they came out like that. It was the only opportunity in Bouderset. Wow, I'm just then with their skis up. And he was like, there was some French guy on the end called like, I don't know what. But he was just like, awkward. I'm going to have to do this now because there's no other opportunity when Melissa's not here because I didn't ski that day. But then we did join them for lunch.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And apparently my dad gets literally, walks into the restaurant, beelines for my mum and goes straight in her ear. Bearing in mind, I've come in with my mum, so me and my mom next to each other, whispered straight in my mum's ear. Toby's watching this. like, what, what, oh my God, just pure excitement. Couldn't contain himself. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Wow. It's all really exciting. It's very exciting. Right, enough about me. Okay. More about you. So it's Valentine's Day. It's Galentine special, obviously.
Starting point is 00:25:07 No, so obviously I'm apart from my boyfriend for Valentine's Day. Oh my God. Of course you are. It's our first Valentine's Day together. Is you upset? I think he's just a bit sad that I've gone. In general. You haven't really spent any time apart.
Starting point is 00:25:18 No, we haven't really spent any time apart. But I also have just left him and I really miss him. I can't wait to see him. Especially when you're seeing someone like, your routine is so set. But I left. I just saw these balloons as I walked in and I did a little Valentine's Day set up for him because we're not going to be together. So I left like a big red helium balloon and like a card and I put together some roses
Starting point is 00:25:39 and I left him a little like gift, just a small gift. Oh my God, sweet. And I was like open this on Valentine's Day. And actually, do you know what he did? We sound so wet. He, when I left my suitcase out when I was packing to come here, I went to the gym earlier that morning and I came back and there was like a gift in my case
Starting point is 00:25:55 with a card and he'd actually sent me a photo of it and he goes, I've left this in your suitcase but you have to promise me that you won't open it until Valentine's Day but it's a gift for you like a small gift How small?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Is it in the shape of a Chanel bag? No no no sure. To be fair it's wrapped up I have no idea what it could be but I have no idea It's a little box It's very sweet Just the thought of that.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Very good of you to both have done that. Yeah. So I was thinking you were going to be like, tell him to walk into a room. So you've left that balloon. No, no, he saw it before I went. It's just in the kitchen. But I just was like, look, I've just, he'd been travelling for a couple of days. And then he came back to it and I was like, I'm away from Valentine's Day.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And I also made, I don't know who I'd become. I baked these, like, healthy, like, cookie, oat things that he likes. I literally. I was so cute to me. I know. Oh, she's so in love. It's so nice. She was like, guys, she was like, Melz, he's just fucking great.
Starting point is 00:26:52 He's the best. He's just the best. I need to, how weird I've not met him. I can't wait for you to meet him. And I want to come to Australia. I hope you do. In November. Yeah, it's such a nice time to here.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It came in November and like, we had the weather was amazing. We had the best time. You would say it's a nice time to go. Yeah, it was hot. And also it's like that, the, you're in the pits of winter then. Like, you're like a nice time to get away. Because you want to kind of be here for Christmas. Christmas is fun here.
Starting point is 00:27:13 November's a good time. It's a good break. And then you come back and it's like your birthday, Christmas, like festive. Yes. And you come back in your tan. Yeah. Gorgeous. There's nothing like a tan in the winter.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I agree. Like a tanned hand and like a chest that's turned. On the left. On the left hand. Perfect. Go there just for that. Tan the left hand. Justin Bieber's performance at the Grammy.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Did you see him being interviewed when he was next to Haley and like he just looked so sad? Oh no. Don't. Did he? Yeah. He looked really sad. I didn't see his, him performance. though. His performance was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Was it? Like really cool. Really cool. I've said he's so cool. He is so cool. He's just so cool. He posts on Instagram like every half an hour. Have you seen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't post. I know. I love it. Like just so weird and so weird. He's so consistent. He just keeps posting. He sticks to his schedule.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And she's cool. Who wants? A bad buddy won something. And Lola Young. Oh yeah. She's come back out of the woodback blesser. She has to like take some time out. Yeah, and then she's come back and she's a Grammy winner. Wow. Who else won? Who else won? Yeah, love her. Who else won?
Starting point is 00:28:38 She performed in Sydney when I was there and I didn't know and I wish I would have gone. I would have gone to that. She looks like just, I feel like if anyone met her, she'd be so nice. Yeah, I agree. She just looks like so normal. Like a girl's girl. And also like she's so like clean looking. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:28:53 She's like her hair and her skin. She's pristine. She's polished. Yeah. I really like her look. And at every outfit that she wears, I'm like, oh, that's so Olivia Yeah, I agree. She's really like nailed her vibe.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah. It's a new artist that's like really difficult to just like come onto the scene with with the bang and she's really done it. She's like dominated the charts. Dominated the charts. Am I okay. You got obsessed with her to the point where some people like make it like their personality that they're obsessed with her.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's like kind of what happened with Britney back in the day. Like she's really captured the hearts of us. Worldwide. She's quite international. The young girlies. But yeah, Justin Meeboo is my favourite. I need to walk. When I get home, I'm going to watch him.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Have you seen Netflix have got a new documentary about America's next top model? Tyra's working on it. So they're doing a whole like resurfacing like America's next top model and like the like how horrendous like it was for society and people's body image
Starting point is 00:29:44 and like how they could get away with that. The show. And then I think Tyra's seen it panicked and thought like I need to be involved with this. So she's like. On board. She's on board. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I've seen clips of her being like I did like in the teaser or the trailer she's like we could never get away with that now. And then they can't. scenes of people having like their teeth done and like they're like head shaved and coloured and they're talking about like. I remember when they used to do that and the girls would cry like I don't know my hair shaved off and bleached. So I'm looking forward to watching that. I would watch that. I used to be obsessed with American next top model. I was Abby Clancy was runner up on Britain's next top model. I remember watching it and that was her like rise to fame. She's still so beautiful. But I remember
Starting point is 00:30:22 watching that and being like oh my gosh this girl's unreal. And then she started dating like Peter Crouch I think just after and here she is. Oh my God. Now she is, you know, where she is. God, I do not remember that at all. I remember also America's next model when they would like have the runway and it would be like, these clips come up so much on my TikTok. They were so savage and it was like, so you're a single mom?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. And it was like, why is this relevant to modeling? And they just go into this whole like weird deep life story. And she'd be like, you're not right for this. I'm sorry. Oh my God. Do you remember they would always? have a final picture.
Starting point is 00:30:58 They would have this shoot and then they'd have the final picture and there'd be this grand reveal and it would be them with like a tiger. And like they'd have no clothes on and it would be like this bow and it would be like and they'd be like you're just not giving us enough. You're not giving enough. You have to smize. They would be there and they'd be crying and there'd be tears and I'd be like, oh my God, don't send her home and I'd be so invested.
Starting point is 00:31:18 And it was awful and they'd all like there'd be drama in the house. Oh my God. That was quite the vibe too. When the girls would fight. It didn't get on. It was like us. am I seeing? I was.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm doing a wagerip. You're like, fuck, here we go. Like, here we go. I'll watch it when I'm in Barb's. 100%. Yeah. I have like these moments of my day, which I call me time. Tell me about that because I'm on board with that.
Starting point is 00:31:43 When I have my shower and I brush my teeth and I like do my cleansing, it's like, I guess every person like has that moment alone. I watch my favorite program that like Toby we won't, we won't like watch together. Yeah. And it's always like one of the great. So it's either like Gilmore Girls or Vampire Dari's or Sex and City, Desperate Housewives, like all of those on friends, like on repeat. Like at the moment I'm back on Gilmore Girls.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like that's on repeat. So I think this documentary, now it's actually Bridgeton, Bridgeton, Bridgeton, Bridgeton. I do that too, kind of, you know. My God, can I just say? The Inferno's guy, Freddie, was on Made in Chelsea for a bit. Do you remember him? Really posh. I meant to know him because I was on Maiden Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You were. What about him? I was watching Bridgeton the other day. He's not on it. It's fucking on Bridgeton. I was like, sorry? Sorry? How on earth did you land this role?
Starting point is 00:32:36 To be fair, it was like two seconds and it was an extra, but I think really cool, really impressive. Oh, my. It's so cool, from Inferno's to M-I-C to Bridgeton. Wow. It was actually really iconic. And I was actually like, they've cast you so well because you are literally that in real life. Freddie Brown! Freddie Brown!
Starting point is 00:32:53 Freddie Brown! Yeah. I think we miss series, but I know. know who he is. He's really sweet, really nice. You know, I've never been to him. That's like a right of passage, but I fear we're a bit too old now. We've just passed. Can't be going there. On to Dilemmas. Yeah. Dilemma 1. Hi girls, I love the pod and was hoping you could give me some advice. I'm 21 and currently on my year aboard. I am studying at foreign universities this year
Starting point is 00:33:25 in Italy, then France, and I'll be starting my final year when I get back home. Here's my problem. I've never had a boyfriend. Oh, you were 21. Oh my gosh. Oh, God. It's true. You didn't have to be tied down. I went to an all-girls school and living at home.
Starting point is 00:33:44 My first two years of uni meant I never really had much for the social life or experience with guys. I feel like I give off don't talk to me vibes. Or maybe I'm just unapproachable because no one ever seems to notice me. I'm embarrassed I'm 21 and still in this situation. having almost no idea how to even start a conversation with a guy, let alone be with one. I thought in my romanticised mind that some Italian man would have swept me off my feet by now, but no luck so far. Do you have any advice on how to put myself out there and start meeting people and maybe even find myself a boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:34:18 Thanks so much. That's really sweet. She sounds lovely. She sounds lovely. I think you're going to be fine. You've also written that just really nicely. I know. What a nice girl.
Starting point is 00:34:27 we're in our love a girl era because of the engagement I just feel like we're like Everyone at the moment Wow You're 21 you're like such a nice age I agree Because you don't know yourself so much more than you did Like a year or two ago
Starting point is 00:34:42 But you're a full on adult and everyone takes you seriously Yeah and you're also remember like You feel like everyone's in a relationship around you I hate that feeling Yeah Her time will come Like as cringe as it is everyone's on a different path And like you never know when you're going to meet someone
Starting point is 00:34:57 So just enjoy the time that you've got now because you might not have it for like, you might be in a serious relationship in six months a year, two years and that might be your forever person. So instead of rushing the process, I would just, I know it sounds patronising. It's so easier said than done. So much easier said than done. You're so ready for that, like to give that to somebody. But then maybe if she's like really wanting to just like date and meet someone like, is she like, what is she doing to try and put herself out there? Like, is she on apps? Like maybe that. Yeah, we always, we love an app promoting. don't we? I always push for the apps. It's hard to meet people in real life now. I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I almost think people give it so large on social media and then like comes down to like organically meeting people and it's just like people get awkward and like a bit anxious. So I think the apps are great. Like so many of my girlfriends have met their boyfriends on apps. Especially if you're like international and you're travelling. That's true because you can change the country which is great. I also think you have to remember being in a relationship is very different to dating. Yes, I agree. So dating is fucking long and hard and you have to reject people and you're also going to get rejected and you might get stood up and you might also stand someone else up. You have to expect all these ups and downs and like it can be long.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You might be lucky and you might just date someone once and that'll be it and you'll have a nice boyfriend for a couple years or you'll just be dating for like a couple years and you, you know, you might quite enjoy that because I'm like the dating scene. can be really, really fun if you just open your mind to it and like don't expect too much. I think if you're going in like, and you find a boyfriend. Yeah, yeah. You're putting yourself into way too much pressure. You need to, um...
Starting point is 00:36:40 Don't be embarrassed by not having a boyfriend at 21. I think it's quite cool. Like also just like not having dated many guys and like being on your own and like... Got standards. Yeah. Keep them. Be like, it's because I expect too much and that's okay. I'm not lowering my standards, which is quite right. I think if you're worried and you're embarrassed about that aspect of it, like telling people that,
Starting point is 00:37:01 you can just be like, look, I've had really short, I've been seeing people for short periods of times. I have had like short-term boyfriends. Yeah. But no one long term. Because I've not found someone that's matched my standards. And I want to be with the right person and I hold myself high. Yeah, which just hasn't worked out. And like, you know, you don't need to say that.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Also, like all these scenarios that you've put yourself into, you've fallen into like an all-girls school obviously impossible to meet boys living at home first years of uni yeah you can't sort of like get yourself involved in like those friendship groups and stuff because they're all living together and they're going to bond over stuff after a night out and stuff and that's what you'll be missing out on I would highly suggest trying to live with people I agree it's more social and like socialise with girlies like just get yourself some fun friends like forget the boyfriend like make cool friends and then when you go out with them you'll meet boys you just naturally organically will meet people the more you're hanging out with
Starting point is 00:38:04 girlfriends and like living with people like you'll meet their friends and it will just it will it will just happen it will exactly i think that you need that's where this issue is lying i don't think it's about like not living at home to meet boys i think it's not living at home because you need to socialise with friends and like yeah just making friends and i think that that will then just it will just snowball from there for you but really don't put yourself under pressure to find a boyfriend. And as I said, there's just nothing quite like a little white, like, you know, I've had a couple relationships, but they've been really short term and they've just not worked out.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I've kind of been unlucky, like, I've dated a couple dickheads, or I actually didn't end up liking them that much. I don't need to know. Yeah. And then if further down the line, they really nag on who they were, you can just be like, I actually only saw him for like a month. And it was this, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's also just not that deep. Because if you're that embarrassed about it, I would just play. Play it around like that. You'll be okay, I promise. I'm wishing you so much, but please tell us what happens.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Keep us posted on the travelling too. That's so fun. I know. Definitely get hinge. I agree, get hinge. I rate Hind a lot. I have some friends using Hind at the moment. They're having a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Same. But also, they're also just not sometimes always getting a reply because I'm like, those people that you're messaging have probably been on Hinge for a few years and I've probably just like, seebs for Hinge today.
Starting point is 00:39:22 So you can't get disheartened. I think you just have to be like, okay, that's that for today, on to the next. Keep trying. Keep trying. Okay, love you. It's a process. Love you. Okay, so dilemma two. Hi, girlies. I really need your advice on my uni drama. I live in a big, mixed student house, and we recently decided to have a house party. It got to 2 a.m. and one of my housemates, let's call her Hannah, went up to one of the guys in our house and announced in front of everyone that they've been sleeping together. The problem is, this guy, let's call him Jake,
Starting point is 00:39:50 is in a long-distance relationship. Oh, fuck so. Apparently he's been saying to Hannah that he was going to leave his girlfriend for her. He's also been flirty with another girl at this party who then accused him of being a serial teacher and it just all blew up. It's been a few weeks now and no one in the house knows what to do. We all feel so awkward and feel for his poor girlfriend who no doubt will be coming to visit soon. Should I get involved and tell Jake's girlfriend or try and force him to or should I just stay out of it? Help. Right. So, I mean, ultimately it's wrong. but then it's that fine line of like doing the right thing
Starting point is 00:40:26 which would be trying to push for him to be honest I wouldn't start going telling his girlfriend because I think unless you have like let's say you're really close with his girlfriend Yes different story And you feel obliged to tell her Even though he's your friend first But you're also close with her You know it's wrong different story
Starting point is 00:40:43 You don't know this girl I would just not say anything I would tell him he's a fucking twat and he's a pig And that he should probably tell her And that you're pissed off with him and disappointed about his behaviour, don't get involved in that relationship. I agree.
Starting point is 00:40:56 That's for, you know... He is, unfortunately, he will probably be a bit of a cheat for the rest of his life and he will never, ever, ever change. Yeah. That's not good news. He's got three girls
Starting point is 00:41:06 all playing each other off with one another by the sounds like. Also the truth always comes out. So like whether you decide... He's building himself a reputation now. And like, obviously it's common knowledge because they've all been discussing at a house party. So if it's not you that tells her,
Starting point is 00:41:18 then like, it's going to get back to her regardless. If you're really... There's a thing about girl code. I know. Which sits with me that I'm like, if I'm this girl and I think that my boyfriend's really behaving himself at uni, and I'm putting all my energy into him not sleeping with the 50 down the corridor because I've got a boyfriend this long distance. I know. It just feels like a waste for her.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So in a way you want some guardian angel to just be like, babe, your boyfriend's cheating on you. Sack him off. I know. We'd want to know, wouldn't we? Just put ourselves in. I would want to know if I was this girl. But then if I'm putting myself in your shoes, I wouldn't get involved because you'll fall out with your friend. I know, I know. So I think selfishly, I think push him to tell her. But like, there is only two people in that relationship and like it's for them to figure out and, you know. I mean, if he's falling out with the guy he's been sleeping with the guy who's been sleeping with, she's probably less to the girl. She has a right to be like, hey, by the way, also she's sleeping with someone that she's knows and in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:42:21 that's wrong in itself. 100%. So try and persuade the girl that's been sleeping with him to tell the girlfriend. I think that's a good idea. Okay, love you. Good luck. Okay, guys, that's the end of the episode. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Happy Valentine's Day, guys. Love you so much. Even if you're single in a relationship, married, divorce, broken up with, sending you so much love. And I'm hoping that you just have a good day, watch some good chipflips. Yeah, agreed. Love you. Love you.
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