Wednesdays - 13: We go to TOBY CARVERY!!

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

Hello tinies we are feeling festive festive festive!! The girls chat Christmas traditions, Jude Law and chutney?!Plus, we read some of your Christmassy dilemmas, and drumroll please tinies…. We go t...o Toby Carvery!!!!Merry Christmas and thanks for listening xInstagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer: @ben_johnsEditor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @thechampagencyAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:14 and we're not experts in anything in fact we just challenge all the shit so and we love giving you guys advice
Starting point is 00:01:21 but as we said we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help We love giving you guys advice. But as we said, we love giving you guys advice. Do not take what we're saying as gospel. If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. I'm driving home for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Can't wait to see their faces. I'm driving home for Christmas Yeah That was fucking epic What's another one? You better watch out You better not shout You better not cry I'm telling you why
Starting point is 00:01:58 Santa Claus is coming To town He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good. So be it for goodness sake. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:02:15 He sees you when you're sleeping. Oh, hello. Cacapella. Happy Christmas, guys. I'm feeling super excited this year. Yeah. I'm going skiing.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You're going skiing too, right? Yeah. Always. Always. I know, but for once, I just thought, you know, you've got the new house in London. What, I'm going to be in it by myself? No, your parents have got that new house in the UK. So I thought maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:40 All right, Christmas, Christmas. We're very close to each other. Where are you? Mawzine. Is that close? To Badger's there, Christmas, Christmas. We're very close to each other. Where are you? Morzine. Is that close? To Bad Serre, I think so. Morzine's like in, not in France, I don't think. Is it?
Starting point is 00:02:52 I thought it was in Switzerland. Morzine's in France. You fly to Geneva. Yeah, but Geneva's on the cusp of both, isn't it? That's confusing. Morzine is definitely in France. I've been to Morzine so many times, how do I not know where the fuck it is? I'm pretty sure it's really close.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You could just ski over the mountain and you're in Val d'Azur. You can't do that. Oh, is that... That's the teens. That's the teens, yeah. Right, okay. I've got myself all muddled up. But Emily Blackwell is in teen for Val d'Azur.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So we are spending New Year's Eve together. Oh my God, I've not told you. I've got news. We've booked Miami for January. Just for Hollybobs. Just for Hollyday. And then you know... Holiday.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Holiday. Yeah. And then you know. Holiday. Holiday. Yeah. And then you know my family, if you live in Michigan, they have a place in Miami. So they're there at the same time. So we might even stay with them. Righty ho. Should we go into the episode? She's really good at the Aussie accent.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I don't know why I keep doing that. You did it to me. Oh my God. Have I told you about selling the OC, guys? We've discussed it. But I haven't discussed it with you. So good. Wait, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Sorry, sorry. Selling the OC, guys, as in the guys on it all. No, no, no, no, selling the OC. Selling OC. No, oh my God. Okay, you're talking about selling OC. I thought you were saying selling Sunsets. I'd missed it.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, selling the OC, it's freaking good TV. No, I tried and I was like, I get this off. That's so unlikely. you love shit tv okay great so it's good because i've got absolute sweet fa to watch and i'm watching desperate housewives for the 14th time and i'm actually getting a bit bored of it you need to watch it okay but did you watch selling sunsets yes obviously and did you watch the reunion? Sorry You made me burp It's actually vile Toby does it all the time And he's like talking And it's like a dab
Starting point is 00:04:33 But he's like I'm like you're disgusting It's so gross I'd rather like just swallow it But you know when someone's talking Burping's actually my most embarrassing thing It only happens to an old man really Or like older men
Starting point is 00:04:43 Or boys Because Toby's not old at all but he'll burp like mid conversations and tries to like disguise it he's in it
Starting point is 00:04:49 so he's like do you know what I mean when it comes out in a word I do it a lot but that's at meals and I'll tell you why because I always
Starting point is 00:04:55 have a dark coke and they like literally the minute I have one I need a bub so that fizzy drink is anything with gas in it
Starting point is 00:05:02 yeah yeah anything with air fizzy water I can't drink fizzy water for that with gas in it. Yeah, yeah. Anything with air. Fizzy water. I can't drink fizzy water for that. Ends me. Ends my... Guys, when you're in early stages of dating, don't order fizzy drinks.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah, just still. Unless you're a non-verper, but I don't think it's possible because it like sits, the air sits right in the throat. The diet, the Coke's like an absolute no-go. Oh no, and also like the tonics are a no-go. No, I feel like they're a little bit okay the tons
Starting point is 00:05:26 beer right tell us about OC then just really good TV it's cute okay right favourite thing about this time of year
Starting point is 00:05:40 it's my birthday it's Christmas your birthday brings in some joy for me skiing for me Christmas year it's my birthday it's christmas your birthday brings in some joy for me skiing for me christmas time what's my cozy nights in i really like yeah like of course there's all the festive things to go out but i just love the fact it goes dark at 4pm and you're like in bajong so if he then puts her dressing gowns on puts the tv on i don't have
Starting point is 00:06:01 dressing down anymore do you get rid of it i bin them all they were giving me the egg but what about the first thing when you wake up when you put your dressing gown on and she's like I don't have dressing gown anymore do you want rid of it I'd bin them all they would give me the egg but what about the first thing when you wake up and you put your dressing gown on and you're brushing your teeth don't do it sometimes I do that
Starting point is 00:06:10 because I have to in my bathroom if it's cold and I'm like I'm freezing and then I get dressed straight away I had to give them
Starting point is 00:06:15 all away I don't go downstairs in my dressing gown Jamie didn't like them like they were so big I don't know why but obviously the Soho ones
Starting point is 00:06:22 are all one size and also sometimes you'll put it over your I do that Nicole she puts it over her clothes and then it just looks a bit
Starting point is 00:06:29 poofy you just don't like it it looks a bit like beddy you know when someone's just a bit beddy grubby yeah a bit slobby and grubby
Starting point is 00:06:36 like stays in their pyjamas till midday no hate not for me though but I would like put it up it just gives that like I'm still in bed
Starting point is 00:06:43 in the middle of the day feel and I'm not sure about it yeah so basically for dressing out and once you've got one and you love it like it feels really sad security blanket to not wear it so I just had to rip the bandage off like I can't be coming home when I'm cold I'm putting a dressing gown over my clothes yes I would be having clothes underneath but it just looks grubby yeah and then Jamie really didn't like it sounds like he's very controlling but I then realised it was icky
Starting point is 00:07:05 and so I just threw them because I honestly couldn't take it off I was obsessed with it yeah I know oh I watched The Holiday on Sunday gorgeous
Starting point is 00:07:12 yeah and I oh my god I think no I'm not going to say it because it might make his head a bit big but I said to Jamie I think Jude Law looks a bit like Toby
Starting point is 00:07:21 oh my god everyone says that I've never seen it I went why does Toby look like everyone he looks like David Beckham now Jude Law we can't keep Toby. Oh my God, everyone says that. I've never seen it. Why does Toby look like everyone? He looks like David Beckham, now Jude Law. We can't keep blowing up this makeup, his trumpet. No, but do you know what freaks me out about this?
Starting point is 00:07:31 I can't stop. You know what freaks me out about that whole movie? Guess how old Jude Law is there? 30. 33. He's younger than Jamie. He looks... They're old and mature.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah, they do look like proper adults. I would say he's 40 same I'm just I guess he doesn't have both it's a real shame he didn't have like a like a lookalike son
Starting point is 00:07:52 he does have a son no he doesn't look like him at all I have no idea what his son looks like he doesn't look like him I might have a look and you know what's also a bit of a
Starting point is 00:07:59 Christmasy thing for me is James Bond films weird Harry Potter for me me and my family always watch a James Bond film at Christmas on Christmas day always oh my Harry Potter for me. Me and my family always watch James Bond film at Christmas on Christmas Day. Always.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh my God, I might start that tradition with my family. It's quite a classy tradition. Do you know what I mean? It's really classy tradition. Also, it's the only thing that we can get my dad to watch. He's not watching any Christmas film. Yeah, for movies on Christmas Day, like you've always got to have one. What's your Christmas tradition?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Let's just talk through it. Talk me through it. Okay. So the night before we all get a present my dad was never included in this it would just be my mum me and my sister
Starting point is 00:08:30 and we or maybe he was but then obviously they broke up so I don't really remember that but my mum every year we get given a Christmas present
Starting point is 00:08:37 on Christmas Eve and and it was always a brand new pair of pajamas we all have matching me, my mum and my sister so we all get them on. But this is always, we'll have had a family dinner with like my cousins and auntie.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So we come back and then mum will give us a Christmas present. And then we go to bed. We wake up in the morning. We, I'm trying to think. We have like champagne, Bucks Fizz vibes. Make scrambled eggs, smoked salmon. That's exactly what we need. It's such a delicious.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Always the same. And then we'll go get changed. We'll open our stockings. We don't, we used to open stockings in bed. We don't really get stockings anymore. No, neither do we because we're past the age of seven.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So anyway, we don't do that. You know what? My mum actually still puts presents in it. My mum goes, oh, that's a stocking, Phillip, and it's under the tree.
Starting point is 00:09:23 it's not in the stocking but I don't know why she stopped it it's actually really mean that she stopped it's just a bit inconvenient they were quite
Starting point is 00:09:30 they also look ugly what the stockings do yeah mine used to be on the bed mine was a huge sack no we had a nice stocking it was
Starting point is 00:09:37 on the edge it was hung because I had like a four poster bed thing it wasn't like that and it would be hang on one of those
Starting point is 00:09:43 things oh my god no when I was young my mum went all out like she would walk into our room with talcum powder and there'd be footprints
Starting point is 00:09:50 no you mean soot oh talcum powder for snow yeah she did the whole thing the whole house would have snow all over it we had our own little Christmas tree
Starting point is 00:09:58 and everything it was really amazing and then we'd have anyway so then we'll do that then you're getting changed for the Christmas day lunch can I just say more now
Starting point is 00:10:06 these days it's Christmas for my parents because they're the ones who have loads of presents me and my sister I don't even think I honestly get like no presents
Starting point is 00:10:12 oh I don't buy my parents presents for Christmas you're joking what no because it's like what am I going to get them you don't buy them one thing no I'll buy them
Starting point is 00:10:22 something maybe small and I'll write them a nice card appreciation card and an I love you card but buying my presents my parents are presents my presents
Starting point is 00:10:29 is kind of this doesn't happen really for me like presents isn't a big thing anymore no it's not been for years it's more about the day
Starting point is 00:10:36 the tradition yeah so then what happens is my mum will start cooking she'll be all glammed up looking gorgeous gorgeous and you can always hear
Starting point is 00:10:43 my mum blow dry her hair every day like she's a blow dryer girl that dyson's on the go yeah it's on the go and then she comes around clip-clopping about in her little heels and her gorgeous outfit and then she starts cooking starts cooking away and we'll be helping her and then slowly by slowly drips and drabs of the family will start arriving mum will be cooking the entire time and then at one point we just have lunch but it's always late we have lunch like four yeah we do that should i tell you if you mind sometimes five yeah so it starts by the time this episode airs i would have already been on my way to skiing yours is always right it starts we always have like a like a meal in london like the
Starting point is 00:11:20 family my sister's ex me and my sister have a different mum but we all have the same dad so the whole fam's that gorgeous stuff then it all starts we all get in the car with my dog and we start the drive to France you drive to France yeah we drive every year and we stop off on the way in Geneva in this stunning hotel and we have this like Michelin star milk what I sound so relatable but it's it's so nice and so Christmassy and it's like just so cold how many hours to Geneva from London? Can't wait to watch this on the vlog. Yeah, I don't know if I'll vlog it to be fair, but...
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well, that's ridiculous. We'll see, you'll know. Anyway, we drive, I think maybe we stop off in France again the night before and then we do Geneva and then it's the last road trial. How many hours of driving are we talking? I think it's like 12 hours of driving altogether, something like that. So you do like 4, 4, 4? Yeah, I think it's the last how many hours of driving are we talking I think it's like 12 hours of driving all together something like that
Starting point is 00:12:06 so you do like 4, 4, 4 yeah I think it's something like that my dad and my brother share the drive and what are you doing whilst you're driving
Starting point is 00:12:12 sleeping chatting to my mum chatting to the fam looking on my phone gorgeous it's easy petting popsicles the pooch
Starting point is 00:12:21 so fun anyway so then it's Christmas Eve we always go out for a gorgeous meal, Christmas Eve. You've arrived in Val. We've arrived in Val's house. We've been there for like five days.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Fine. Then Christmas Eve, it's always like a really nice meal. We dress up. We go out for a stunning meal. There's lots of gorgeous drinks. Normally champagne in the chalet before we leave for the meal. Then Christmas morning, we wake up. My dad and my brother and I always go for a Christmas morning ski.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And what was your grandma doing? So we're all getting our ski bits together. Then we have a gorgeous breakfast with like Bucks Fizz. Heaven. Scrambled eggs, sweet salmon. Then we go for a morning ski and there's no one on the mountain because no one skis on Christmas Day. So it's like the best time to ski.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's stunning. Heaven. It's really nice. Then we come back mum's basically done everything she's looking gorgeous in her like glitzy outfit the heels the whole thing same as yours and then we all have lunch and then maybe we'll open some presents and then we might have a snooze oh no then we walk the pot then we walk the dog then we go watch James Bond and then we have normally like cheese and like chutney in the evening chutney?
Starting point is 00:13:25 chutney and cheese chutney? yeah chutney I've been saying it wrong all life 27 years of my life shot me that's no gay that's no gay
Starting point is 00:13:59 we'll see just shot are you sure why has no one corrected me the whole 27 years of my life oh my god no no someone needs to get me a tissue no no no i'm dying like your mom
Starting point is 00:14:28 has obviously heard you say it for 27 years please never stop saying it that's the funny thing how do you say it chutney chutney wait i think you're wrong no no no no no oh my god but wait toby must have heard you say chutney before and just i'm just dying that What? Oh my God. But wait, Toby must have heard you say chutney before. I'm just dying that people probably, because it's really like mild.
Starting point is 00:15:13 You can barely hear it. The first time she said it, I thought, did she say that right? That's probably what people do. They let me get away with it. Yeah, they're like, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Sadly, she said chutney. Anyway. Do you know what it looks like? It should be called chutney. Chutney doesn't sound right to me. I went chutney and you went, yeah, chutney. Oh God, that got me good. All right, well, you learn something new every day. At least this Christmas,
Starting point is 00:15:38 I will be getting my pronunciations correct. You've got to say that to your family. Say it loads and be like, mum, can you pass me the chutney? And just see if... Oh my God, you're right. What the fuck? Why has no one told me?
Starting point is 00:15:52 But you would have used that word a lot. I know. You've also said that word to me before. You've been like, oh, I love like chutneys. Oh, it's like one of my favourite things. You know what? It's the world. It's the life of being a dyslexic, guys.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You have to let me off. Oh, that was so good. No good no no that was so good my tummy hurt me too so wait you have your cheese and chutney and that's it that's the end of the day that's a really gorgeous day that's the last meal or like leftover like ham normally you have some ham or something you know that nice ham oh my god the ham that's left that's my favorite bit bit about... Oh my God. I will say my cousins, who I'm actually going to Mawzee with, their dad, Kevin, you must have met him at my sister's. He is such a good cook.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I don't know why I have to cry. The best ham ever. I hope he makes it this year. Wealthsimple's Big Winter Bundle is our best match offer yet. Get a 2% match when you transfer over an eligible RRSP. For a $50,000 transfer, that's a $1,000 cash bonus. Enough to buy a fancy parka.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 No, Crimbo is awful. Don't do that. Okay, right. Hi, ladies. I'm a tiny listening out in Germany. Oh, my gosh. I'm half English and listening to you both makes me smile and think of lovely things about England.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oh, my God. That's so sweet. Dilemma time. My boyfriend and I have been together for over three years. We live together in Berlin and we have spent all of our Christmases as a couple with my family in Germany. He gets on so well with my family
Starting point is 00:18:15 and he says it's just so natural being with them all. God, that's such a dream. That's so lovely. That's also very rare. But this year we promised we would go to his family in France. The only issue is I don't speak French and his family don't speak English. My boyfriend is our main translator. We are all slowly learning each other's languages so we can all communicate with one another.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's sweet. Also really annoying. The jokes. You wouldn't get the jokes. No, that's the thing. That's what a language barrier is a bit tricky christmas really means a lot to me and i don't really want to spend it with his family don't blame me i think i'll feel quite awkward and don't want to have to follow my boyfriend
Starting point is 00:18:54 around all the time if i want to chat with anybody how do i talk to my boyfriend about this without upsetting him or do i just need to suck it up i think you've got to suck it up i think if you've done three Christmases at your family, you know, it's just about rotation. If you're going to marry him, you're going to have to start rotating Christmases anyway. It's just, you've got to get it out of the way. You've got to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 There's no two ways about it. You're sucking that up. I also think maybe get some sort of a good translation thing on your phone. Maybe there's a great app or something where you can just speak into it and then it speaks it out to you. to you there must be something make sure you call your family a lot too and like stay connected and it'll be totally fine and you you'll probably have an unexpected blast i also think maybe compromise and spend like maybe new year's eve or another like thing with your family afterwards so you feel like you've got that celebration yeah so last year
Starting point is 00:19:41 we spent with jamie's family which was amazing. Black tie. Black tie. I remember. I didn't go black tie though, but it was black tie. You wore a dress though. Yeah. With tights. Yeah, I wore a dress with tights. But oh no, that was the night before it was black tie.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And then very smart Christmas. I quite like that. I rate that. Oh, I loved it. It was such a special Christmas. And then my Christmas will be with my family this year so we've done it sort of in turns gorgeous and it was gorgeous I'm lucky though that you know I love going to his family and it's also it's I think it also does depend on the family like if you've got like a single parent for
Starting point is 00:20:15 example you don't just like leave I think then that I would actually have to be my parent yeah like I would say Jamie be with your family I wouldn't drag him to us you know what I mean totally it's all circumstantial. Yeah. Dilemma two. You've got to be flexible though when you're married or in a relationship. And you've got to be compromised, you know? It's only fair.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Technically, your boyfriend's only three Christmases with his family, so. Yeah. Hey, Sophie and Melissa, I always go back home for Christmas and go to the pub on Christmas Eve. It's a big tradition in my family. Village. Village. Last Christmas, I went to the pub with my friends as usual. I was at the bar when a guy i used to have a crush on at school let's call him charlie
Starting point is 00:20:49 came to stand next to me charlie was one of the most popular boys at school he was a few years older than me and always had a regular girlfriend we were never friends but whenever any of his mates would try and pick on me for being gay he would for some reason always have my back charlie like the son of him charlie gave me a big hug and said that he was really happy to see me i thought he was just being drunk and friendly as we've never been real mates but throughout the night he kept making a beeline to come and chat to me i like this when it was the last orders he offered to walk back with me as we live near each other on the walk he said how we had been doing some soul-searching
Starting point is 00:21:25 and realised that he was gay. We had a deep chat about it and he said how seeing me live my life openly had inspired him to do the same. Oh my God, that's so sweet. I love Charlie so much. And I love this other guy. We had an amazing kiss outside my house and I felt so in the moment that I invited him to stay over.
Starting point is 00:21:42 He said yes and I had the best Christmas ever. Oh my God, stunning. Christmas Eve ever. Oh my God, stunning. Christmas Eve ever. Oh my God, sorry, that's just actually amazing. So they got down to it. It was a bit similar having a guard fancied at school, waking up in my bedroom at my mum and dad's house and having to do the awkward sneak out on Christmas Day
Starting point is 00:21:59 was quite the mission. Sorry, that is honestly so great. I know. What a Christmas Eve. Yeah, what a Christmas Eve. It all happens around Christmas. Everyone flocks back home. Yeah, everyone flocks back home.
Starting point is 00:22:11 We tried to see each other before I went back to London, but we couldn't find a time. And since then, our contact has kind of fizzled out. He's occasionally messaged me asking when I'm next at home, but our paths haven't crossed since. And I've not had anything from him since the summer. In my head, we had a connection but I'm not sure if I'm saying that
Starting point is 00:22:26 just because my school crush became a reality. Judging from socials, he's still single and has told his family and friends that he's gay. And he has told them. That makes me happy. So my question is, do I give it another go this year or let it be something that just happened last year?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Give it another go! I have one of these really weird like, throat like, but yeah, give it another go. Merry Christmas, you both. Thank you for all the laughs on Wednesdays this year. That's a Christmas miracle. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Christmas is coming back around just at the right time. He's fully like come into himself. He's told everyone who he really is. He feels like he's himself. He's got his identity. really is. Yeah, he's... He feels like he's himself. He's got his identity. He's ready now. Also quite nice that you were like his first, well, I don't know if you were,
Starting point is 00:23:10 but it sounds like you were his first experience of him truly being himself. That's pretty special. I'm flipping... And contact didn't... Please, please give us
Starting point is 00:23:18 a follow up. Contact didn't completely cut out, which is also a positive. And also, I just feel like that's quite chill. Like, they always
Starting point is 00:23:24 knew each other. I don't think either's been a dick, either's played it cool. Like also, I just feel like that's quite chill. Like, they always knew each other. I don't think either's been a dick, either's played it cool. Like, it's just how it is. He also probably had a lot going on. Like, that's a,
Starting point is 00:23:31 you know, he had to cart to his mom, his family, his friends, like all of that going on. And, like, holding,
Starting point is 00:23:37 he probably wanted to experiment a bit. Yeah. So now, yeah, come around. Definitely give that a go and we'd love a follow up. Oh,
Starting point is 00:23:44 I just, I love, I love like those early stages yeah same i just love that i think it was your crush i was just so good and like when you go to the pub this year you're gonna be like where is he yeah yeah yeah you're gonna already have the tingles of excitement like 10 weeks before you go to the pub definitely give that a go. Okay, right. Hey, girls. Next dilemma. I'm currently in uni and my boyfriend, let's call him Ethan,
Starting point is 00:24:08 broke up with me two weeks ago. Quite like the name Ethan. Do you? No. It was very unexpected for me. He said it wasn't working from his perspective. That's really fucking,
Starting point is 00:24:19 I hate it when stuff comes out of the blue. Yeah. It just really catches you off guard and there's nothing worse than being shocked and being heartbroken. I'm still really struggling with it all, especially as we're a part of the blue like yeah it just really catches you off guard there's nothing worse than being shocked and like being heartbroken i'm still really struggling with it all especially as we're a part of the same friendship group so we see each other all the time our group has decided to do secret santa with all 15 of us getting involved including me and my ex i picked out my
Starting point is 00:24:38 name and who do i have ethan i'd ask to change someone i can't ask to swap otherwise i look like i'm bothered about it so i'm struggling on what to get him. I can't ask to swap. Otherwise I look like I'm bothered about it. So I'm struggling on what to get him. No, no, no. You should have swapped. Swap.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I am bothered about it. He's mad. I still want to buy him anything. I don't know what to do there. Swap. Especially when he dumped you. Swap now. Swap.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Sorry. I'm not even going to read the rest of this dilemma. Swap the fucking name over. Swap. Immediately. Swap. Swap. Like I can't say enough.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Like there was no way you were giving him a Christmas present. It's not happening. We're not letting you do it. Also, everyone would understand. And I don't think it... And don't make it... It doesn't matter if you do look bothered. Like, you've just been broken up with.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I absolutely am bothered. And I'm going to own it. I don't really want to buy this person a Christmas present. I'm trying to get over this right now. Yeah, I know. It's so weird. It's so awkward. I don't want to think about you on Christmas Day
Starting point is 00:25:21 buying you a fucking Christmas present. Wrapping up your Christmas present. No, it's so weird. It's so awful. It's basically torturing yourself. Do I go for something generic or a nice gift, which I know he'd actually like? I'm really confused about how to act around him.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And that enough of getting over him really hurts, especially as I didn't want it to end. And now I'm having to get him a Christmas present, which I never saw coming. Anyway, guys, swap the name. There's no other way. Go to your other friend and be like, look, I can't. I need to, whoever you got, I need to swap with you because... I've got Ethan. which I never saw coming anyway guys swap the name there's no other way go to your other friend and be like look
Starting point is 00:25:45 I can't I need to whoever you got I need to swap with you because I've got Ethan yeah I'm struggling a bit with this
Starting point is 00:25:50 everyone will understand if you give it to him at like a dinner I think it always is weird it will be so awkward everyone will be like cringe cringe cringe
Starting point is 00:25:59 especially what would you get him everything's gonna either look like you don't care or it's gonna look like you do care and you're trying not to care like it's all too many layers you know sit away from him don't talk to him don't even talk to him oh he's annoying fair enough if you're a point in your like relationship where you've moved on and you know you're friendly with your ex that's fine
Starting point is 00:26:18 but at this point absolutely no you're healing now we don't want to rub salt in the wound and you also like have to go to the dinner because you don't want to rub salt in the wound. And you also like have to go to the dinner because you don't want to let things like that ruin your social life. Yeah, because you just don't want to have fun. But you don't have to torture yourself like that. There's a line. Story time.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Hey girls, I got really drunk on Christmas Eve. A pub session turned into a bit of a lock-in and the next thing you know, I've gone on off with someone I went to school with and gone back to his parents. It's just always the same at Christmas. Why the hell are these... Why has this never happened to me?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Because you went to boarding schools, people lived all different areas. We started making out in the living room, got undressed on the sofa before going upstairs to his bedroom. Nobody was awake and we made sure to be super quiet to not disturb his younger siblings.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I woke up very early in the morning and sobered up as soon as i realized that i wasn't in my own bed on christmas day no fear i wouldn't like that oh my god and then panic set in when i couldn't find any of my clothes in his bedroom and they were all in the living room i crept out of the bedroom without saying goodbye and then tiptoed down the stairs completely naked to reclaim my stuff no when i got to the living room the door was jammed setting even more. I kept trying to push it open, but when it finally released, it triggered the burglar alarm. As I was scrambling about
Starting point is 00:27:30 to try and grab my things, in runs the boy's dad with a baseball bat shouting, who the fuck are you? Whilst I'm stood in front of his Christmas tree, naked.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Naked. Ha! I can't tell you how embarrassed I was having to explain who I was and what I was doing in his house. It was obviously, it had obviously woken up the whole house as the boy I slept with came downstairs along with the mum and his younger siblings.
Starting point is 00:27:50 He must have thought I was some kind of Santa. Thank God for the boy's mum who saw how naked I was. She shooed the boys upstairs, lent me some of her clothes and then drove me back to my actual house like a true angel. Fair to say I didn't see the boy again, but I did catch his dad in the same pub where I met his son and maybe it was a sign. Haha! Oh my god. I'm just picturing me being starker with the whole family in the... That's such a great story.
Starting point is 00:28:16 No, I would really actually die. Oh my god, I would die. But that did happen the first time I went to Toby's house, his brother's on me butt naked. That's honestly so good. But they walked into the loo and I was in there and I just didn't lock the door. Real error there. I never lock doors. Any doors.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Also, you think at like seven in the morning, no one's going to walk into the fucking bathroom. It's on a Sunday. And you creep, creep, creep butt naked across the floor. I often do it in the gym. That's really rogue. Sophie, in this toilet, every time I go into the loo, I've also fully pushed the door open.'s really rare but Sophie in this toilet every time I go into the loo I've also fully
Starting point is 00:28:47 pushed the door open she's just sat and they're like hi I'm like this could be a stranger I have a weird
Starting point is 00:28:53 tick where I'm really afraid of locking doors but in my own house I can do it but I honestly like take me to a pub a restaurant
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't like to lock the door I'm always afraid I'm going to get locked in I think maybe as a child I've also got locked in and I've got weird trauma Yeah maybe I did once go
Starting point is 00:29:07 With my ex-boyfriend We went skiing It wasn't embarrassing But My ski My suitcase got It never arrived On the plane
Starting point is 00:29:16 Oh no And I like Had to go skiing In like random clothes And also it was Really embarrassing Because I turned out With no
Starting point is 00:29:22 I was with his family And I had no Christmas presents and I remember just on Christmas Day being like, happy Christmas. You spent Christmas Day with your ex? Yeah, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Why did I do that? Oh no, I must have gone out for New Year's. So I was bringing them their Christmas presents. That was really rogue. I suddenly thought, God, I was young.
Starting point is 00:29:39 God, yeah. I've never spent Christmas with a boy. It's no ring, no bring. Even then, I think it's like wait till you have kids I'm not gonna not see my family like
Starting point is 00:29:49 on Christmas day even if I'm married she's one of those yeah but like I can't leave the fam yeah you've got such a close-knit fam it's also just
Starting point is 00:29:58 I can't they bless them the empty nest syndrome sweet mum and dad just be by themselves no they would have a blast well I guess my brother
Starting point is 00:30:05 would be there, but... He would then miss me. No, can't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, you've got a while to go. Toby's Carvery. We've never been before. Never been to a Toby.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's also not Toby's Carvery, it's Toby Carvery. But I don't like that why not it should be proper grammar why is it I can't fucking talk I can't spell
Starting point is 00:30:30 it's like Sophie Carvery like no Sophie Carvery so guys we're going to one of these we are actually I'm really fucking excited I'm thrilled
Starting point is 00:30:37 guys we're in Tobyby it's toby not toby's yeah i know that's why i said toby we're in toby carvery we're here we made it two hours two hours in the pouring rain driving i'm not why are you if you're not watching and you're listening, it's quite the picture because we're in matching Toby Carvery jumpers. We've got. You really need to just stop weirding now and you need to get onto YouTube now and watch this
Starting point is 00:31:13 because you're not going to want to miss it. We've got a gorgeous tree with some red booboos, with some gold. We're in this quintessentially British Toby Carvery. So we came across Toby Carvery because we had a dilemma about it. Yeah. And we didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And now we're being educated. No, yeah. We had a dilemma about two people who went to a Carvery and they had multiple pieces of meat. And I said, yeah, Melissa can understand. I've never heard of it before. And I said, it's a Toby Carvery. Are there multiple Carverys or it's just Toby?
Starting point is 00:31:44 It's like a chain. There's a few of these about. I've done my research. Right, off we go. Weird. Oh my God, I just got my finger in some horseradish. We're ready. I hate horseradish.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Don't know how you like that. And you like a lot of mustard, which is my idea. No, I don't like mustard with a rose, but I'm trying it too because it's a Toby Carvery special. No, it's not. That's just a weird habit the Brits picked up on. Okay, right. Bon appetit.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Chinky pink. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, Crash. Skill. Skill. So what are you going in for first? We both went for turkey. No, but I got a bit of gammon too.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Oh, did you in the end? Yeah, I did. So the chef was so nice as well. He called me sweet. I think that's one of the lightest things. No, it's actually really nice. I feel really festive now. I found it really difficult to feel festive.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Now I feel festive. The turkey's honestly so nice. It's really good. Turkeys are massive. Like seeing that whole hunk of meat. They get up at 5am every day to cook it all. So just to recap wise, the reason why
Starting point is 00:32:45 we're really here is this, whoever this boy was, this stingy boy who took that lovely girl on a date and then made her split one of these roasts, first of all it's really reasonable. So why would you then go, right okay we're gonna split this now just to sit, oh so that's just like really shit because it's like oh it's all you can eat so you keep going up for more if you need to. You're sharing the plate. That's just cutting corners. Stingy. Maybe he meant it in a romantic sense. You know, he wanted a bit of a Lady and the Tramp moment over the roast. Okay, we've got a date update.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Oh my God, it's for the Toby Garber, yeah! Oh my God, guys, this is golden. I think I've got loads of Toby in my mouth and I just need to have a spug of a drink. Not your Toby. I need major advice. Weekend just gone. We were texting on Friday night
Starting point is 00:33:25 as usual as boyfriends and girlfriends do and then I didn't receive a message from him till Sunday 5pm to me that's weird
Starting point is 00:33:31 as I'm always on my phone always texting the person I'm in a relationship with especially at the weekend on a Sunday surely that's normal he messaged on Sunday
Starting point is 00:33:40 saying hey sorry I didn't have a spare second all weekend I hate the line just say hey how are you I miss you rather than pretending you didn't have a spare second all weekend I hate the line just say hey how are you I miss you etc rather than pretending you didn't have a spare second all weekend to message me
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm not an idiot anyway I got really annoyed and made a fuss and cried so much ultimately I just don't think he loves me the way I want to be loved even though he has good intentions it's frustrating there's part of him that just doesn't like that doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Like, he can't fully love me entirely. He's just dumb and oblivious. A boy, please find, sorry, that girl is really cute. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:12 the way she says it, I like know. Because she's being really nice about him at the same time as I should say. He's really sweet. And it's just like, you know when that girl's like, I love him,
Starting point is 00:34:19 but like, he's just so dumb. Like, you're dumb. Like, the boy's dumb. Yeah. You boys are all dumb. You can't date someone that's dumb. Like, you're dumb. Like, the boy's dumb. Yeah. You boys are all dumb.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You can't date someone that's dumb. They just can't love us the way we need to be loved. And that's okay. And, you know. But it's not okay when you're in it. No, but that's fine for him. But, like, it's not working for you. You're obviously on a completely different intellectual level as him.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And that will bore you to death if he's dumb. And, like like the reality is he's probably slept all weekend. I, you know, it wasn't like really, I'm picturing that
Starting point is 00:34:51 sort of 21 year old. It's so mum like. The reality is. The reality is he's probably played video games and slept all freaking weekend. He's probably slept
Starting point is 00:34:58 all the game. Catch a spin. I know that Jamie games but any boy that games to me is sick. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:35:06 It's the biggest egg you can do. If you've got a headset and you're gaming. Oh. You're not coming to Toby with us. I just don't understand it. And I'm just like, you're living in some sort of weird simulation world. Like, get to the real world. Read a book.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Be more interesting. Be a bit deeper. Go for a carvery. Go for a carvery. Have a conversation. Eat some good food. you sack this boy off he shouldn't be that he has a moment
Starting point is 00:35:30 or several moments where he's gone to the toilet where he's brushed his teeth where he's eaten he's drunk water he's taken a breath he can send you a message are we sacking a boy off
Starting point is 00:35:40 because he didn't text until 5pm on the weekend no that's a bit completely didn't message her the whole of Saturday I do think it's so annoying, but I don't. I think there's more to the story. She's crying over it.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like, that's a lot. Yeah, but I also think there is the element. I'm really, really like backtracking myself. I so go, well, you mean, ultimately I think he's too young. I don't think he's in trees. I just think, suck him off, he's annoying me. I picture like a 20 year old, 18, 20 year old. He's just like playing PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Sunday at 5pm.m so the whole saturday the whole sunday what's he been doing sleeping and playing playstation like i picture us like stinky boy and bad playing playstation yeah i can't get i can't get it out of my head and she just wants to be loved and he's just like gaming i also think there's something we said we can't blame this all on like boys being boys. This isn't like every boy is like this. This is not. She's like, he's just dumb and oblivious.
Starting point is 00:36:28 A boy. They're not all dumb and oblivious. No, but he, young boys are. They are. Sorry, I'm generalising. They are. Oh, I don't think
Starting point is 00:36:35 that you should be with him. No, not me. But like, then just suck it up and realise, no, I'm being so brutal. But you might need to realise. I think Swiggy Carver
Starting point is 00:36:43 has really brought our brutal side to be yeah i think it's really given us some fuel some energy some gumption so google have written into us and they have got their most asked questions of the year yeah how to meet new people that's the gym oh yeah that's quite a good one and like workout classes there is also something to be said
Starting point is 00:37:08 for like going to like classes not necessarily like sports classes but like art classes and stuff like that like maybe something you feel like you have
Starting point is 00:37:14 something in common with someone go somewhere like that oh I know join a run club sports team like those things join a run club
Starting point is 00:37:20 join a walking club people do like netball still you know that's the people do that and like if you're into that, you'll meet people that you like. Yeah. But you could learn how to greet someone on the first date.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Always a hug, I think. Always a hug, never go in for the one kiss or the two kiss because you don't know what's going to happen and it's always so awkward. I agree. Let them lead, but I always just go in for a hug and if you get a kiss on the cheek, lovely. And if they go in for the second kiss, then it's like, ooh, but then it's always so awkward i agree let them lead but i always just go in for a hug and if you get a kiss on the cheek lovely and if they go in for the second kiss then it's like oh but then it's quite funny because they're slightly embarrassing themselves which is quite cute
Starting point is 00:37:51 most googled questions on what to wear two in the uk 2023 okay what to wear on the first day chilled out sexy vibes chilled out sexy vibes i always like to go with like a nice your favorite fit of jeans is what my always first put up call is. Like normally a first date, it's like relatively relaxed. Your favorite jeans. Everyone's got their favorite pair of jeans. Then I would go for a top that just flatters you.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And I'd go for flats. That you feel great in. Or no, you go for flats. I'd go for, or, but like what? Trainers to a bar?
Starting point is 00:38:21 No. I'd go for like heel boots maybe. Yeah. It depends. I think I did trainers on my first date with Toby. I did, but it heel boots maybe yeah it depends I think I did trainers on my first date with Toby I did but it was a very
Starting point is 00:38:27 it depends on where you're going you were locked in a heel we need to like choose I guess a nice pair of boots if you're slightly smarter yeah a nice pair of trainers if you're chilled
Starting point is 00:38:36 okay what do I do at the airport I like like smart cars like floaty like tracky bottoms or trousers or like a nice pair of leggings
Starting point is 00:38:44 or like linen I i was a bit smarter in leggings than i do in like full-on tracky yeah i like like woolen tracky she's going for cashmere vibe she's supposed to be but i don't like to look too scruffy yeah no it's me too do you know back in the day like our parents used to dress up so much yeah i know and my granny's like the standards just not the same as they once were. My mum dressed us quite well. Because it was a privilege to travel and like fly. Now everyone does it
Starting point is 00:39:09 and they just want to be comfy. But I think making an effort is like quite nice. So I think be like comfortable, but chic. Just wear coordinated clothes. Like don't wear an orange jumper with a red trouser, tracky bottoms.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Like wear all grey. We always stay with the neutrals, don't we? Yeah, we're very neutral neutral this is the most colour I've worn I think in my entire life so if you stick with like neutral colours
Starting point is 00:39:30 I think you always look really chic weirdly always coordinated nice pair of trainers lovely big tote bag for all your bits and bobs in there always wear caps
Starting point is 00:39:38 you don't want to put any make up on or scrap and you want to leave that hair greasy take some under eye masks so you don't get dehydrated on the plane get an eye mask in your bag and some moisturizer because
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