Wednesdays - 13: We go to TOBY CARVERY!!
Episode Date: December 20, 2023Hello tinies we are feeling festive festive festive!! The girls chat Christmas traditions, Jude Law and chutney?!Plus, we read some of your Christmassy dilemmas, and drumroll please tinies…. We go t...o Toby Carvery!!!!Merry Christmas and thanks for listening xInstagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer: @ben_johnsEditor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @thechampagencyAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I'm driving home for Christmas.
Can't wait to see their faces.
I'm driving home for Christmas Yeah
That was fucking epic
What's another one?
You better watch out
You better not shout
You better not cry
I'm telling you why
Santa Claus is coming
To town
He sees you when you're sleeping.
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad
or good.
So be it for goodness sake.
Whoa!
He sees you
when you're sleeping.
Oh, hello.
Cacapella.
Happy Christmas, guys.
I'm feeling super excited this year.
Yeah.
I'm going skiing.
You're going skiing too, right?
Yeah.
Always.
Always.
I know, but for once, I just thought, you know, you've got the new house in London.
What, I'm going to be in it by myself?
No, your parents have got that new house in the UK.
So I thought maybe.
All right, Christmas, Christmas.
We're very close to each other.
Where are you?
Mawzine.
Is that close? To Badger's there, Christmas, Christmas. We're very close to each other. Where are you? Morzine. Is that close?
To Bad Serre, I think so.
Morzine's like in, not in France, I don't think.
Is it?
I thought it was in Switzerland.
Morzine's in France.
You fly to Geneva.
Yeah, but Geneva's on the cusp of both, isn't it?
That's confusing.
Morzine is definitely in France.
I've been to Morzine so many times, how do I not know where the fuck it is?
I'm pretty sure it's really close.
You could just ski over the mountain and you're in Val d'Azur.
You can't do that.
Oh, is that...
That's the teens.
That's the teens, yeah.
Right, okay.
I've got myself all muddled up.
But Emily Blackwell is in teen for Val d'Azur.
So we are spending New Year's Eve together.
Oh my God, I've not told you.
I've got news.
We've booked Miami for January.
Just for Hollybobs.
Just for Hollyday.
And then you know...
Holiday.
Holiday.
Yeah. And then you know. Holiday. Holiday. Yeah.
And then you know my family, if you live in Michigan, they have a place in Miami.
So they're there at the same time.
So we might even stay with them.
Righty ho.
Should we go into the episode?
She's really good at the Aussie accent.
I don't know why I keep doing that.
You did it to me.
Oh my God.
Have I told you about selling the OC, guys?
We've discussed it.
But I haven't discussed it with you.
So good.
Wait, I'm so sorry.
Sorry, sorry.
Selling the OC, guys, as in the guys on it all.
No, no, no, no, selling the OC.
Selling OC.
No, oh my God.
Okay, you're talking about selling OC.
I thought you were saying selling Sunsets.
I'd missed it.
Yeah, selling the OC, it's freaking good TV.
No, I tried and I was like, I get this off.
That's so unlikely. you love shit tv okay great so it's good because i've got absolute sweet fa to watch and i'm watching desperate housewives for the 14th time and i'm actually getting a bit bored
of it you need to watch it okay but did you watch selling sunsets yes obviously and did you watch the reunion? Sorry You made me burp
It's actually vile
Toby does it all the time
And he's like talking
And it's like a dab
But he's like
I'm like you're disgusting
It's so gross
I'd rather like just swallow it
But you know when someone's talking
Burping's actually my most embarrassing thing
It only happens to an old man really
Or like older men
Or boys
Because Toby's not
old at all
but he'll burp
like mid conversations
and tries to like
disguise it
he's in it
so he's like
do you know what I mean
when it comes out
in a word
I do it a lot
but that's at meals
and I'll tell you why
because I always
have a dark coke
and they like
literally the minute
I have one
I need a bub
so that fizzy drink
is anything with gas
in it
yeah yeah
anything with air
fizzy water
I can't drink
fizzy water for that with gas in it. Yeah, yeah. Anything with air. Fizzy water. I can't drink fizzy water for that.
Ends me.
Ends my...
Guys, when you're in early stages of dating, don't order fizzy drinks.
Yeah, just still.
Unless you're a non-verper, but I don't think it's possible because it like sits, the air
sits right in the throat.
The diet, the Coke's like an absolute no-go.
Oh no, and also like the tonics are a no-go.
No, I feel like
they're a little bit
okay the tons
beer
right tell us
about OC then
just really good TV
it's cute
okay right
favourite thing
about this time of year
it's my birthday
it's Christmas
your birthday
brings in some joy
for me
skiing for me Christmas year it's my birthday it's christmas your birthday brings in some joy for me skiing for me christmas time what's my cozy nights in i really like yeah like
of course there's all the festive things to go out but i just love the fact it goes dark at 4pm
and you're like in bajong so if he then puts her dressing gowns on puts the tv on i don't have
dressing down anymore do you get rid of it i bin them all they were giving me the egg but what about the first thing when you wake up when you put your dressing gown on and she's like I don't have dressing gown anymore do you want rid of it I'd bin them all they would give me the egg
but what about
the first thing
when you wake up
and you put your dressing gown on
and you're brushing your teeth
don't do it
sometimes I do that
because I have to
in my bathroom
if it's cold
and I'm like
I'm freezing
and then I get dressed
straight away
I had to give them
all away
I don't go downstairs
in my dressing gown
Jamie didn't like them
like they were so big
I don't know why
but obviously
the Soho ones
are all one size
and
also sometimes
you'll put it over your
I do that
Nicole she puts it
over her clothes
and then it just looks a bit
poofy
you just don't like it
it looks a bit like
beddy
you know when someone's
just a bit beddy
grubby
yeah a bit slobby and grubby
like stays in their pyjamas
till midday
no hate
not for me though
but I would like
put it up
it just gives that
like I'm still in bed
in the middle of the day feel
and I'm not sure about
it yeah so basically for dressing out and once you've got one and you love it like it feels
really sad security blanket to not wear it so I just had to rip the bandage off like I can't be
coming home when I'm cold I'm putting a dressing gown over my clothes yes I would be having clothes
underneath but it just looks grubby yeah and then Jamie really didn't like it sounds like he's very
controlling but I then realised
it was icky
and so I just threw them
because I honestly
couldn't take it off
I was obsessed with it
yeah I know
oh I watched
The Holiday on Sunday
gorgeous
yeah and I
oh my god I think
no I'm not going to say it
because it might make
his head a bit big
but I said to Jamie
I think Jude Law
looks a bit like Toby
oh my god
everyone says that
I've never seen it
I went
why does Toby look like everyone he looks like David Beckham now Jude Law we can't keep Toby. Oh my God, everyone says that. I've never seen it. Why does Toby look like everyone?
He looks like David Beckham, now Jude Law.
We can't keep blowing up this makeup, his trumpet.
No, but do you know what freaks me out about this?
I can't stop.
You know what freaks me out about that whole movie?
Guess how old Jude Law is there?
30.
33.
He's younger than Jamie.
He looks...
They're old and mature.
Yeah, they do look like proper adults.
I would say he's 40
same
I'm just
I guess he doesn't have both
it's a real shame
he didn't have like a
like a lookalike son
he does have a son
no he doesn't look like him at all
I have no idea
what his son looks like
he doesn't look like him
I might have a look
and you know what's also
a bit of a
Christmasy thing for me
is James Bond films
weird
Harry Potter for me
me and my family
always watch a James Bond film
at Christmas on Christmas day always oh my Harry Potter for me. Me and my family always watch James Bond film at Christmas on Christmas Day.
Always.
Oh my God, I might start that tradition with my family.
It's quite a classy tradition.
Do you know what I mean?
It's really classy tradition.
Also, it's the only thing that we can get my dad to watch.
He's not watching any Christmas film.
Yeah, for movies on Christmas Day, like you've always got to have one.
What's your Christmas tradition?
Let's just talk through it.
Talk me through it.
Okay.
So the night before
we all get a present
my dad was never included in this
it would just be my mum
me and my sister
and we
or maybe he was
but then obviously
they broke up
so I don't really remember that
but my mum
every year
we get given a Christmas present
on Christmas Eve
and
and it was always
a brand new pair of pajamas
we all have matching
me, my mum and my sister
so we all get them on.
But this is always, we'll have had a family dinner with like my cousins and auntie.
So we come back and then mum will give us a Christmas present.
And then we go to bed.
We wake up in the morning.
We, I'm trying to think.
We have like champagne, Bucks Fizz vibes.
Make scrambled eggs, smoked salmon.
That's exactly what we need.
It's such a delicious.
Always the same.
And then we'll go get changed.
We'll open our stockings.
We don't,
we used to open stockings in bed.
We don't really get stockings anymore.
No, neither do we
because we're past the age of seven.
So anyway,
we don't do that.
You know what?
My mum actually still puts presents in it.
My mum goes,
oh, that's a stocking,
Phillip,
and it's under the tree.
it's not in the stocking
but I don't know
why she stopped it
it's actually really
mean that she stopped
it's just a bit
inconvenient
they were quite
they also look ugly
what the stockings do
yeah
mine used to be
on the bed
mine was a huge sack
no we had a nice
stocking it was
on the edge
it was hung
because I had like
a four poster bed
thing
it wasn't like that
and it would be
hang on one of those
things
oh my god no
when I was young
my mum went all out
like she would walk
into our room
with talcum powder
and there'd be footprints
no you mean soot
oh talcum powder for snow
yeah
she did the whole thing
the whole house
would have snow all over it
we had our own
little Christmas tree
and everything
it was really amazing
and then we'd have
anyway so then
we'll do that
then you're getting changed
for the Christmas day lunch
can I just say more now
these days
it's Christmas for my parents
because they're the ones
who have loads of presents
me and my sister
I don't even think
I honestly get like
no presents
oh I don't buy my parents
presents for Christmas
you're joking
what no
because it's like
what am I going to get them
you don't buy them one thing
no I'll buy them
something maybe small
and I'll write them
a nice card
appreciation card
and an I love you card
but buying my presents
my parents are presents
my presents
is kind of
this doesn't happen
really for me
like presents
isn't a big thing anymore
no
it's not been for years
it's more about the day
the tradition
yeah
so then what happens is
my mum will start cooking
she'll be all glammed up
looking gorgeous
gorgeous
and you can always hear
my mum blow dry her hair
every day like she's a blow dryer girl that dyson's on the go yeah it's on the go and then
she comes around clip-clopping about in her little heels and her gorgeous outfit and then she starts
cooking starts cooking away and we'll be helping her and then slowly by slowly drips and drabs of
the family will start arriving mum will be cooking the entire time and then at one point we just have
lunch but it's always late we have lunch like four yeah we do that should i tell you if you
mind sometimes five yeah so it starts by the time this episode airs i would have already been on my
way to skiing yours is always right it starts we always have like a like a meal in london like the
family my sister's ex me and my sister have a different mum but we all have the same dad
so the whole fam's that gorgeous stuff then it all starts we all get in the car
with my dog and we start the drive to France you drive to France yeah we drive every year and we
stop off on the way in Geneva in this stunning hotel and we have this like Michelin star milk
what I sound so relatable but it's it's so nice and so Christmassy and it's like just so cold
how many hours to Geneva from London?
Can't wait to watch this on the vlog.
Yeah, I don't know if I'll vlog it to be fair, but...
Well, that's ridiculous.
We'll see, you'll know.
Anyway, we drive, I think maybe we stop off in France again the night before
and then we do Geneva and then it's the last road trial.
How many hours of driving are we talking?
I think it's like 12 hours of driving altogether, something like that. So you do like 4, 4, 4? Yeah, I think it's the last how many hours of driving are we talking I think it's like 12 hours of driving
all together
something like that
so you do like
4, 4, 4
yeah I think it's
something like that
my dad and my brother
share the drive
and what are you doing
whilst you're driving
sleeping
chatting to my mum
chatting to the fam
looking on my phone
gorgeous
it's easy
petting popsicles
the pooch
so fun
anyway
so then
it's Christmas Eve
we always go out for a gorgeous meal, Christmas Eve.
You've arrived in Val.
We've arrived in Val's house.
We've been there for like five days.
Fine.
Then Christmas Eve, it's always like a really nice meal.
We dress up.
We go out for a stunning meal.
There's lots of gorgeous drinks.
Normally champagne in the chalet before we leave for the meal.
Then Christmas morning, we wake up.
My dad and my brother and I always go for a Christmas morning ski.
And what was your grandma doing?
So we're all getting our ski bits together.
Then we have a gorgeous breakfast with like Bucks Fizz.
Heaven.
Scrambled eggs, sweet salmon.
Then we go for a morning ski and there's no one on the mountain
because no one skis on Christmas Day.
So it's like the best time to ski.
It's stunning.
Heaven.
It's really nice.
Then we come
back mum's basically done everything she's looking gorgeous in her like glitzy outfit the heels the
whole thing same as yours and then we all have lunch and then maybe we'll open some presents
and then we might have a snooze oh no then we walk the pot then we walk the dog then we go watch
James Bond and then we have normally like cheese and like chutney in the evening chutney?
chutney and cheese
chutney?
yeah chutney
I've been saying it wrong
all life
27 years of my life shot me
that's no gay
that's no gay
we'll see
just shot
are you sure
why has no one
corrected me
the whole 27 years of my life
oh my god no no
someone needs to get me a tissue no no no i'm dying like your mom
has obviously heard you say it for 27 years
please never stop saying it that's the funny thing how do you say it chutney
chutney wait i think you're wrong no no no no no
oh my god but wait toby must have heard you say chutney before and just i'm just dying that What? Oh my God.
But wait,
Toby must have heard you say chutney before.
I'm just dying that people probably,
because it's really like mild.
You can barely hear it.
The first time she said it,
I thought,
did she say that right?
That's probably what people do.
They let me get away with it.
Yeah, they're like,
that's weird.
Sadly, she said chutney.
Anyway.
Do you know what it looks like?
It should be called chutney.
Chutney doesn't sound right to me.
I went chutney and you went, yeah, chutney.
Oh God, that got me good. All right, well, you learn something new every day.
At least this Christmas,
I will be getting my pronunciations correct.
You've got to say that to your family.
Say it loads and be like,
mum, can you pass me the chutney?
And just see if...
Oh my God, you're right.
What the fuck?
Why has no one told me?
But you would have used that word a lot.
I know.
You've also said that word to me before.
You've been like, oh, I love like chutneys.
Oh, it's like one of my favourite things.
You know what?
It's the world.
It's the life of being a dyslexic, guys.
You have to let me off.
Oh, that was so good. No good no no that was so good my tummy hurt me too so wait you have your cheese
and chutney and that's it that's the end of the day that's a really gorgeous day that's the last
meal or like leftover like ham normally you have some ham or something you know that nice ham oh
my god the ham that's left that's my favorite bit bit about... Oh my God. I will say my cousins,
who I'm actually going to Mawzee with,
their dad, Kevin, you must have met him at my sister's.
He is such a good cook.
I don't know why I have to cry.
The best ham ever.
I hope he makes it this year.
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So we're celebrating Crimbo with you.
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Don't do that.
Okay, right.
Hi, ladies.
I'm a tiny listening out in Germany.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm half English and listening to you both makes me smile
and think of lovely things about England.
Oh, my God.
That's so sweet.
Dilemma time.
My boyfriend and I have been together for over three years.
We live together in Berlin
and we have spent all of our Christmases as a couple
with my family in Germany.
He gets on so well with my family
and he says it's just so natural being with them all.
God, that's such a dream.
That's so lovely.
That's also very rare.
But this year we promised we would go to his family in France.
The only issue is I don't speak French and his family don't speak English.
My boyfriend is our main translator.
We are all slowly learning each other's languages so we can all communicate with one another.
That's sweet.
Also really annoying.
The jokes.
You wouldn't get the jokes.
No, that's the thing.
That's what a language barrier is a bit
tricky christmas really means a lot to me and i don't really want to spend it with his family
don't blame me i think i'll feel quite awkward and don't want to have to follow my boyfriend
around all the time if i want to chat with anybody how do i talk to my boyfriend about
this without upsetting him or do i just need to suck it up i think you've got to suck it up i
think if you've done three Christmases at your family,
you know, it's just about rotation.
If you're going to marry him,
you're going to have to start rotating Christmases anyway.
It's just, you've got to get it out of the way.
You've got to do that.
There's no two ways about it.
You're sucking that up.
I also think maybe get some sort of a good translation thing on your phone.
Maybe there's a great app or something where you can just speak into it
and then it speaks it out to you. to you there must be something make sure you call
your family a lot too and like stay connected and it'll be totally fine and you you'll probably have
an unexpected blast i also think maybe compromise and spend like maybe new year's eve or another
like thing with your family afterwards so you feel like you've got that celebration yeah so last year
we spent with jamie's family which was amazing. Black tie. Black tie.
I remember.
I didn't go black tie though, but it was black tie.
You wore a dress though.
Yeah.
With tights.
Yeah, I wore a dress with tights.
But oh no, that was the night before it was black tie.
And then very smart Christmas.
I quite like that.
I rate that.
Oh, I loved it.
It was such a special Christmas.
And then my Christmas will be with my family this year so we've done it sort of in turns
gorgeous and it was gorgeous I'm lucky though that you know I love going to his family and it's also
it's I think it also does depend on the family like if you've got like a single parent for
example you don't just like leave I think then that I would actually have to be my parent yeah
like I would say Jamie be with your family I wouldn't drag him to us you know what I mean
totally it's all circumstantial.
Yeah.
Dilemma two.
You've got to be flexible though when you're married or in a relationship.
And you've got to be compromised, you know?
It's only fair.
Technically, your boyfriend's only three Christmases with his family, so.
Yeah.
Hey, Sophie and Melissa, I always go back home for Christmas and go to the pub on Christmas
Eve.
It's a big tradition in my family.
Village.
Village.
Last Christmas, I went to the pub with my friends as usual. I was at the bar when a guy i used to have a crush on at school let's call him charlie
came to stand next to me charlie was one of the most popular boys at school he was a few years
older than me and always had a regular girlfriend we were never friends but whenever any of his
mates would try and pick on me for being gay he would for some reason always have my back
charlie like the son of him charlie
gave me a big hug and said that he was really happy to see me i thought he was just being drunk
and friendly as we've never been real mates but throughout the night he kept making a beeline to
come and chat to me i like this when it was the last orders he offered to walk back with me as
we live near each other on the walk he said how we had been doing some soul-searching
and realised that he was gay.
We had a deep chat about it and he said
how seeing me live my life openly had inspired him to do the same.
Oh my God, that's so sweet.
I love Charlie so much.
And I love this other guy.
We had an amazing kiss outside my house
and I felt so in the moment that I invited him to stay over.
He said yes and I had the best Christmas ever.
Oh my God, stunning.
Christmas Eve ever. Oh my God, stunning. Christmas Eve ever.
Oh my God, sorry, that's just actually amazing.
So they got down to it.
It was a bit similar having a guard fancied at school,
waking up in my bedroom at my mum and dad's house
and having to do the awkward sneak out on Christmas Day
was quite the mission.
Sorry, that is honestly so great.
I know.
What a Christmas Eve.
Yeah, what a Christmas Eve.
It all happens around Christmas.
Everyone flocks back home.
Yeah, everyone flocks back home.
We tried to see each other before I went back to London,
but we couldn't find a time.
And since then, our contact has kind of fizzled out.
He's occasionally messaged me asking when I'm next at home,
but our paths haven't crossed since.
And I've not had anything from him since the summer.
In my head, we had a connection
but I'm not sure if I'm saying that
just because my school crush became a reality.
Judging from socials, he's still single
and has told his family and friends that he's gay.
And he has told them.
That makes me happy.
So my question is,
do I give it another go this year
or let it be something that just happened last year?
Give it another go!
I have one of these really weird like,
throat like,
but yeah, give it another go.
Merry Christmas, you both.
Thank you for all the laughs on Wednesdays this year.
That's a Christmas miracle.
And you know what?
Christmas is coming back around just at the right time.
He's fully like come into himself.
He's told everyone who he really is.
He feels like he's himself. He's got his identity. really is. Yeah, he's... He feels like he's himself.
He's got his identity. He's ready now.
Also quite nice
that you were like his first,
well, I don't know if you were,
but it sounds like
you were his first
experience of him
truly being himself.
That's pretty special.
I'm flipping...
And contact didn't...
Please, please give us
a follow up.
Contact didn't completely
cut out,
which is also a positive.
And also,
I just feel like
that's quite chill.
Like, they always
knew each other. I don't think either's been a dick, either's played it cool. Like also, I just feel like that's quite chill. Like, they always knew each other.
I don't think either's been a dick,
either's played it cool.
Like,
it's just how it is.
He also probably had a lot going on.
Like,
that's a,
you know,
he had to cart to his mom,
his family,
his friends,
like all of that going on.
And,
like,
holding,
he probably wanted to experiment a bit.
Yeah.
So now,
yeah,
come around.
Definitely give that a go
and we'd love a follow up.
Oh,
I just,
I love, I love like those early stages yeah same i just love that i think it was your crush
i was just so good and like when you go to the pub this year you're gonna be like where is he
yeah yeah yeah you're gonna already have the tingles of excitement like 10 weeks before you
go to the pub definitely give that a go. Okay, right. Hey, girls. Next dilemma.
I'm currently in uni
and my boyfriend,
let's call him Ethan,
broke up with me two weeks ago.
Quite like the name Ethan.
Do you?
No.
It was very unexpected for me.
He said it wasn't working
from his perspective.
That's really fucking,
I hate it when stuff
comes out of the blue.
Yeah.
It just really catches you off guard
and there's nothing worse
than being shocked and being heartbroken. I'm still really struggling with it all, especially as we're a part of the blue like yeah it just really catches you off guard there's nothing worse than being shocked and like being heartbroken i'm still really struggling with it all especially
as we're a part of the same friendship group so we see each other all the time our group has decided
to do secret santa with all 15 of us getting involved including me and my ex i picked out my
name and who do i have ethan i'd ask to change someone i can't ask to swap otherwise i look like
i'm bothered about it so i'm struggling on what to get him. I can't ask to swap. Otherwise I look like I'm bothered about it.
So I'm struggling on what to get him.
No,
no,
no.
You should have swapped.
Swap.
I am bothered about it.
He's mad.
I still want to buy him anything.
I don't know what to do there.
Swap.
Especially when he dumped you.
Swap now.
Swap.
Sorry.
I'm not even going to read the rest of this dilemma.
Swap the fucking name over.
Swap.
Immediately.
Swap.
Swap.
Like I can't say enough.
Like there was no way you were giving him a Christmas present.
It's not happening.
We're not letting you do it.
Also, everyone would understand.
And I don't think it...
And don't make it...
It doesn't matter if you do look bothered.
Like, you've just been broken up with.
I absolutely am bothered.
And I'm going to own it.
I don't really want to buy this person a Christmas present.
I'm trying to get over this right now.
Yeah, I know.
It's so weird.
It's so awkward.
I don't want to think about you on Christmas Day
buying you a fucking Christmas present.
Wrapping up your Christmas present.
No, it's so weird.
It's so awful.
It's basically torturing yourself.
Do I go for something generic or a nice gift,
which I know he'd actually like?
I'm really confused about how to act around him.
And that enough of getting over him really hurts,
especially as I didn't want it to end.
And now I'm having to get him a Christmas present,
which I never saw coming.
Anyway, guys, swap the name.
There's no other way.
Go to your other friend and be like,
look, I can't. I need to, whoever you got, I need to swap with you because... I've got Ethan. which I never saw coming anyway guys swap the name there's no other way go to your other friend and be like look
I can't
I need to
whoever you got
I need to swap with you
because
I've got Ethan
yeah I'm struggling
a bit with this
everyone
will understand
if you give it to him
at like a dinner
I think it always is weird
it will be so awkward
everyone will be like
cringe cringe cringe
especially what would you get him
everything's gonna either
look like you don't care
or it's gonna look like
you do care
and you're trying not to care like it's all too many layers you know sit away from him
don't talk to him don't even talk to him oh he's annoying fair enough if you're a point in your
like relationship where you've moved on and you know you're friendly with your ex that's fine
but at this point absolutely no you're healing now we don't want to rub salt in the wound
and you also like have to go to the dinner because you don't want to rub salt in the wound. And you also like have to go to the dinner
because you don't want to let things like that
ruin your social life.
Yeah, because you just don't want to have fun.
But you don't have to torture yourself like that.
There's a line.
Story time.
Hey girls, I got really drunk on Christmas Eve.
A pub session turned into a bit of a lock-in
and the next thing you know,
I've gone on off with someone I went to school with
and gone back to his parents.
It's just always the same at Christmas.
Why the hell are these...
Why has this never happened to me?
Because you went to boarding schools,
people lived all different areas.
We started making out in the living room,
got undressed on the sofa
before going upstairs to his bedroom.
Nobody was awake
and we made sure to be super quiet
to not disturb his younger siblings.
I woke up very early in the morning and sobered up as soon as i realized that i wasn't in my own bed on christmas
day no fear i wouldn't like that oh my god and then panic set in when i couldn't find any of
my clothes in his bedroom and they were all in the living room i crept out of the bedroom without
saying goodbye and then tiptoed down the stairs completely naked to reclaim my stuff no when i
got to the living room the door was jammed setting even more. I kept trying to push it open,
but when it finally released,
it triggered the burglar alarm.
As I was scrambling about
to try and grab my things,
in runs the boy's dad
with a baseball bat
shouting,
who the fuck are you?
Whilst I'm stood in front
of his Christmas tree,
naked.
Naked.
Ha!
I can't tell you how embarrassed
I was having to explain
who I was
and what I was doing
in his house.
It was obviously, it had obviously woken up the whole house as the boy I slept with came downstairs along with the mum and his younger siblings.
He must have thought I was some kind of Santa.
Thank God for the boy's mum who saw how naked I was.
She shooed the boys upstairs, lent me some of her clothes and then drove me back to my actual house like a true angel.
Fair to say I didn't see the boy again, but I did catch his dad in the same pub where I met his son and maybe it was a sign.
Haha!
Oh my god.
I'm just picturing me being starker with the whole family in the...
That's such a great story.
No, I would really actually die.
Oh my god, I would die. But that did happen the first time I went to Toby's house, his
brother's on me butt naked.
That's honestly so good.
But they walked into the loo and I was in there and I just didn't lock the door.
Real error there.
I never lock doors.
Any doors.
Also, you think at like seven in the morning, no one's going to walk into the fucking bathroom.
It's on a Sunday.
And you creep, creep, creep butt naked across the floor.
I often do it in the gym.
That's really rogue.
Sophie, in this toilet, every time I go into the loo, I've also fully pushed the door open.'s really rare but Sophie in this toilet every time I go
into the loo
I've also fully
pushed the door open
she's just sat
and they're like
hi
I'm like
this could be
a stranger
I have a weird
tick where I'm
really afraid
of locking doors
but in my own house
I can do it
but I honestly
like take me to a pub
a restaurant
I don't like to lock the door
I'm always afraid
I'm going to get locked in
I think maybe as a child
I've also got locked in
and I've got weird trauma
Yeah maybe
I did once go
With my ex-boyfriend
We went skiing
It wasn't embarrassing
But
My ski
My suitcase got
It never arrived
On the plane
Oh no
And I like
Had to go skiing
In like random clothes
And also it was
Really embarrassing
Because I turned out
With no
I was with his family
And I had no Christmas presents
and I remember just
on Christmas Day being like,
happy Christmas.
You spent Christmas Day
with your ex?
Yeah, that's weird.
Why did I do that?
Oh no,
I must have gone out for New Year's.
So I was bringing them
their Christmas presents.
That was really rogue.
I suddenly thought,
God, I was young.
God, yeah.
I've never spent Christmas
with a boy.
It's no ring, no bring.
Even then, I think it's like
wait till you have kids
I'm not gonna not see my family
like
on Christmas day
even if I'm married
she's one of those
yeah but like
I can't leave the fam
yeah you've got such
a close-knit fam
it's also just
I can't
they bless them
the empty nest syndrome
sweet mum and dad
just be by themselves
no
they would have a blast
well I guess my brother
would be there, but...
He would then miss me.
No, can't do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, you've got a while to go.
Toby's Carvery.
We've never been before.
Never been to a Toby.
It's also not Toby's Carvery,
it's Toby Carvery.
But I don't like that
why not
it should be proper grammar
why is it
I can't fucking talk
I can't spell
it's like Sophie Carvery
like no
Sophie Carvery
so guys we're going
to one of these
we are actually
I'm really fucking excited
I'm thrilled
guys
we're in Tobyby it's toby not toby's yeah i know that's why i said toby we're in
toby carvery we're here we made it two hours two hours in the pouring rain driving
i'm not why are you if you're not watching and you're listening, it's quite the picture because we're in matching Toby Carvery jumpers.
We've got.
You really need to just stop weirding now
and you need to get onto YouTube now
and watch this
because you're not going to want to miss it.
We've got a gorgeous tree
with some red booboos,
with some gold.
We're in this quintessentially British Toby Carvery.
So we came across Toby Carvery because we had a dilemma about it.
Yeah.
And we didn't know what it was.
And now we're being educated.
No, yeah.
We had a dilemma about two people who went to a Carvery
and they had multiple pieces of meat.
And I said, yeah, Melissa can understand.
I've never heard of it before.
And I said, it's a Toby Carvery.
Are there multiple Carverys or it's just Toby?
It's like a chain.
There's a few of these about.
I've done my research.
Right, off we go.
Weird.
Oh my God, I just got my finger in some horseradish.
We're ready.
I hate horseradish.
Don't know how you like that.
And you like a lot of mustard, which is my idea.
No, I don't like mustard with a rose, but I'm trying it too because it's a Toby Carvery special.
No, it's not.
That's just a weird habit
the Brits picked up on.
Okay, right.
Bon appetit.
Chinky pink.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas, Crash.
Skill.
Skill.
So what are you going in for first?
We both went for turkey.
No, but I got a bit of gammon too.
Oh, did you in the end?
Yeah, I did.
So the chef was so nice as well.
He called me sweet.
I think that's one of the lightest things.
No, it's actually really nice.
I feel really festive now.
I found it really difficult to feel festive.
Now I feel festive.
The turkey's honestly so nice.
It's really good.
Turkeys are massive.
Like seeing that whole hunk of meat.
They get up at 5am every day to cook it all.
So just to recap wise,
the reason why
we're really here is this, whoever this boy was, this stingy boy who took that lovely girl on a date
and then made her split one of these roasts, first of all it's really reasonable. So why would you
then go, right okay we're gonna split this now just to sit, oh so that's just like really shit because
it's like oh it's all you can eat so you keep going up for more if you need to. You're sharing the plate.
That's just cutting corners. Stingy. Maybe he meant it in a romantic sense.
You know, he wanted a bit of a Lady and the Tramp moment
over the roast.
Okay, we've got a date update.
Oh my God, it's for the Toby Garber, yeah!
Oh my God, guys, this is golden.
I think I've got loads of Toby in my mouth
and I just need to have a spug of a drink.
Not your Toby.
I need major advice.
Weekend just gone.
We were texting on Friday night
as usual
as boyfriends
and girlfriends do
and then I didn't
receive a message
from him
till Sunday 5pm
to me that's weird
as I'm always on my phone
always texting
the person I'm in
a relationship with
especially at the weekend
on a Sunday
surely that's normal
he messaged on Sunday
saying hey sorry
I didn't have a spare
second all weekend
I hate the line
just say hey
how are you I miss you rather than pretending you didn't have a spare second all weekend I hate the line just say hey how are you I miss you
etc rather than pretending you didn't have a spare second
all weekend to message me
I'm not an idiot anyway
I got really annoyed and made a fuss
and cried so much ultimately
I just don't think he loves me the way I want to be
loved even though he has good intentions
it's frustrating
there's part of him that just doesn't like
that doesn't work.
Like,
he can't fully love me entirely.
He's just dumb and oblivious.
A boy,
please find,
sorry,
that girl is really cute.
Like,
the way she says it,
I like know.
Because she's being really nice about him at the same time
as I should say.
He's really sweet.
And it's just like,
you know when that girl's like,
I love him,
but like,
he's just so dumb.
Like,
you're dumb.
Like,
the boy's dumb.
Yeah.
You boys are all dumb. You can't date someone that's dumb. Like, you're dumb. Like, the boy's dumb. Yeah. You boys are all dumb.
You can't date someone that's dumb.
They just can't love us the way we need to be loved.
And that's okay.
And, you know.
But it's not okay when you're in it.
No, but that's fine for him.
But, like, it's not working for you.
You're obviously on a completely different intellectual level as him.
And that will bore you to death if he's dumb.
And, like like the reality is
he's probably slept
all weekend.
I,
you know,
it wasn't like really,
I'm picturing that
sort of 21 year old.
It's so mum like.
The reality is.
The reality is
he's probably played
video games
and slept all freaking weekend.
He's probably slept
all the game.
Catch a spin.
I know that Jamie games
but any boy that games to me
is sick.
No.
No. No.
No.
It's the biggest egg you can do.
If you've got a headset and you're gaming.
Oh.
You're not coming to Toby with us.
I just don't understand it.
And I'm just like, you're living in some sort of weird simulation world.
Like, get to the real world.
Read a book.
Be more interesting.
Be a bit deeper.
Go for a carvery.
Go for a carvery.
Have a conversation.
Eat some good food. you sack this boy off
he shouldn't be
that he has a moment
or several moments
where he's gone to the toilet
where he's brushed his teeth
where he's eaten
he's drunk water
he's taken a breath
he can send you a message
are we sacking a boy off
because he didn't text
until 5pm on the weekend
no that's a bit
completely didn't message
her the whole of Saturday
I do think it's so annoying, but I don't.
I think there's more to the story.
She's crying over it.
Like, that's a lot.
Yeah, but I also think there is the element.
I'm really, really like backtracking myself.
I so go, well, you mean, ultimately I think he's too young.
I don't think he's in trees.
I just think, suck him off, he's annoying me.
I picture like a 20 year old, 18, 20 year old.
He's just like playing PlayStation.
Sunday at 5pm.m so the whole saturday
the whole sunday what's he been doing sleeping and playing playstation like i picture us
like stinky boy and bad playing playstation yeah i can't get i can't get it out of my head
and she just wants to be loved and he's just like gaming i also think there's something we said we
can't blame this all on like boys being boys. This isn't like every boy is like this.
This is not.
She's like,
he's just dumb and oblivious.
A boy.
They're not all dumb and oblivious.
No, but he,
young boys are.
They are.
Sorry, I'm generalising.
They are.
Oh, I don't think
that you should be with him.
No, not me.
But like,
then just suck it up
and realise,
no, I'm being so brutal.
But you might need to realise.
I think Swiggy Carver
has really brought
our brutal side to be
yeah i think it's really given us some fuel some energy some gumption
so google have written into us and they have got their most asked questions of the year yeah how to
meet new people that's the gym oh yeah that's quite a good one and like
workout classes
there is also
something to be said
for like going to like
classes
not necessarily like
sports classes
but like art classes
and stuff like that
like maybe something
you feel like you have
something in common
with someone
go somewhere like that
oh I know
join a run club
sports team
like those things
join a run club
join a walking club
people do like netball still
you know
that's the
people do that and like if you're into that,
you'll meet people that you like.
Yeah.
But you could learn how to greet someone on the first date.
Always a hug, I think.
Always a hug, never go in for the one kiss or the two kiss
because you don't know what's going to happen
and it's always so awkward.
I agree.
Let them lead, but I always just go in for a hug
and if you get a kiss on the cheek, lovely. And if they go in for the second kiss, then it's like, ooh, but then it's always so awkward i agree let them lead but i always just go in for a hug and if you get a kiss on the cheek lovely and if they go in for the second kiss then it's like oh but
then it's quite funny because they're slightly embarrassing themselves which is quite cute
most googled questions on what to wear two in the uk 2023 okay what to wear on the first day
chilled out sexy vibes chilled out sexy vibes i always like to go with like a nice your favorite
fit of jeans is what my always first put up call is.
Like normally a first date,
it's like relatively relaxed.
Your favorite jeans.
Everyone's got their favorite pair of jeans.
Then I would go for a top that just flatters you.
And I'd go for flats.
That you feel great in.
Or no,
you go for flats.
I'd go for,
or,
but like what?
Trainers to a bar?
No.
I'd go for like heel boots maybe.
Yeah.
It depends.
I think I did trainers on my first date with Toby. I did, but it heel boots maybe yeah it depends I think I did trainers
on my first date with Toby
I did
but it was a very
it depends on where you're going
you were locked in a heel
we need to like choose
I guess a nice pair of boots
if you're slightly smarter
yeah
a nice pair of trainers
if you're chilled
okay what do I do
at the airport
I like like smart cars
like
floaty like
tracky bottoms
or trousers
or like a nice pair of leggings
or like linen I i was a bit smarter
in leggings than i do in like full-on tracky yeah i like like woolen tracky she's going for
cashmere vibe she's supposed to be but i don't like to look too scruffy yeah no it's me too
do you know back in the day like our parents used to dress up so much yeah i know and my
granny's like the standards just not the same as they once were.
My mum dressed us quite well.
Because it was a privilege to travel and like fly.
Now everyone does it
and they just want to be comfy.
But I think making an effort is like quite nice.
So I think be like comfortable,
but chic.
Just wear coordinated clothes.
Like don't wear an orange jumper
with a red trouser,
tracky bottoms.
Like wear all grey.
We always stay with the neutrals,
don't we?
Yeah, we're very neutral neutral this is the most colour
I've worn I think
in my entire life
so if you stick with
like neutral colours
I think you always
look really chic weirdly
always coordinated
nice pair of trainers
lovely big tote bag
for all your bits
and bobs in there
always wear caps
you don't want to
put any make up
on or scrap
and you want to
leave that hair greasy
take some under eye masks
so you don't get
dehydrated on the plane get an eye mask in your bag and some moisturizer because
your skin dries out on the plane and I need your arm okay merry christmas thanks so much for
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