Wednesdays - 144. We Sent Our Save The Dates! ft Toby Watkins

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

Heyyyyy Tinies It’s date night for Melissa and Toby and there’s PLENTY to catch up on!The save the dates have officially been sent, wedding planning is moving full steam ahead, and Melissa reveals her brand new nickname.Toby also spills the tea on what it was like meeting Joe Jonas, and Melissa puts him on the spot with a question every fiancé should probably be prepared for… what’s the most romantic thing he’s ever done for her?Plus, we've got your dilemmas… One Tiny is feeling frustrated because she wants her friend's boyfriend to leave the girls' group chat!Another Tiny is catching feelings and wants to know whether she should put her emotions to the test by going on a date with someone else.Enjoy the episode xGot a dilemma, some personal advice for a fellow Tiny, or a follow-up to a previous one? Send us a voice note or message on Insta @wednesdayspodcast, or drop us an email at [e-mail] | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | [e-mail] CREDITSProducer: Magda Cassidy Assistant Producer: Issy Weeks-Hankins and Lydia BrownellVideo: Lizzie McCarthy Social: Amber HouriganSenior Producer: Helen Burke Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey guys, we're back today with Toby and we've got a cute date night organized and we're going to get into all of this. Speaking of weddings, we sent out our save the date. We did never, never be in debt to a witch or a gangster. Which isn't good. Shut up. Okay. I'm back. Guys, Toby's back on the pod.

I'm a, I'm a regular. He's a regular. And we also have new nicknames. Len. So I'm called Len and so is Toby But mainly it's just me And I'm like it's actually Really un-

Lenn is one of my favourite nicknames That's now developed from Rick to Lenn And Len is because of this country And one of the characters who's a hoarder Old man with like Serial in his beard and like loads of stuff on his top He's called Lenn

And now I'm Len And this is called Lenn And it's pronounced than N's It's Lenn We'll be on the call, on the phone, there's other people in the background and you're on set and he's like, Hi, Len, can you do this? I'm like, people can actually think that's my name. I'm in a relationship with the man called Len.

It doesn't sound very feminine or romantic. No, I know, but it's just the context of Len is fantastic. So anyone who hasn't watched this country, I severely urge you to watch it. Me too. It's also one of those things we tried to get Toby's parents to watch. Didn't and that well, did it? It's hit and miss. I think your parents wouldn't get it.

No, neither. But you know what? first time I watched it, I was like, ha, kind of funny, but not that funny. The more you watch it, the more marinate. It does really marinate. Need some time. It sort of introduces you into another sense of humour. It's fantastic. I feel. Anyway, so yeah, back with Len on the podcast, which is exciting. Len wasn't very well last night. Bless Len. I came home. So I was filming yesterday and I said yes to the job and normally like be normal filming hours, right, between like 8 a.m. to 6 o'clock latest. They were like, oh, the last shot we're going to be doing in a car and obviously it's

going to be dark. And I was like, well, normally this time of year doesn't get dark till about like 9.30. I would say later then. Yeah. And then they were like, oh yeah, yeah, the car shot is going to be 1030 at night. And that's like our second last shot and we'll be wrapping it at midnight. So I got back home in about half, like quarter to one in the morning. I took a lemmy sleep. I was passed out. I murmured. when you came in. Yeah, there was a little tiny little noise came from you and then I cleaned my teeth and got into bed.

And you were hit at 4 a.m. 3 by, it's like clockwork every night. Melissa starts sneezing at 3 in the morning, like back to back, five sneezes. Oh, bless you. Oh, it was really not a good way. And then your hip gave away on the walk here. It's all going wrong. Falling apart. You're marrying a broken moment.

We sent out our save the day. We did. Yesterday? That was a good step in the admin. Can't change it now. As long as we're happy with it, that's the ending thing. That's true. It's like you can't, like with a wedding dress, right?

Like once you've made a decision, you have to stop looking at other stuff because you can think, oh, maybe that's better, maybe that's better. Yeah. Decision paralysis. You've got a, is that what I think so, yeah. That kind of makes sense. Decision paralysis. I need to find. When do I start looking for a suit? Maybe six months?

I've technically got one, but I feel like it'd be nice to have a wedding suit. I think you get a nice one that's fun. One that I can wear again. One that you can wear again, but also like maybe that has like a cool inside or something, I don't know. So no one sees it. Like a mural of me, just all on the inside. Or like some really funky pattern. I don't know.

What do people do that's like a special wedding suit for it? I don't know. Maybe get your initials on it. It's actually so boring for men. Or like the date and the initials and then you can still got a memory, but then you can also wear it to other weddings. Anyway, that is the wedman update. That is the wedman update. we're also surrounded by like a really cute date night situation in the studio today

we haven't had a date night in a while you're meant to take me out on Friday but I heard you voice-nating someone saying you're free in the weekend and I was like oh you said Friday night you're out of the girls no that's tonight wait no Friday you said you were doing something you got are you got a facial seeing L at five but that doesn't mean I'm going out of five oh do but I got the guys to organise our date night because such a cough okay so Len

today this is a paint and sip situation that we've got in front of us here oh lovely as you can see absolutely just so everyone listening

I'm going to describe it we've got these cute little canvases some like sort of cute drink in a champagne fluke situation very remantable and then we've got

nine colours and we're going to do portraits of one another you're okay with that absolutely I'm feeling like mine might be more abstract because I've got a really cool idea.

I don't take any offence to my portrait because I'm not particularly talented in paintbrush. So any inconsistencies are not my fault. Okay. Should we try a drinkie first? That's absolutely gasping for a bit. This is a cute date night. We should actually probably go and book in to do this. Well, look, this is it done.

I know that. Cheers. In that artist's in that artist's studio. Delicious. I'm going to get myself a nice big flat brush. I'm going to get myself a sort of. of a sort of more narrow one. Lovely.

And then maybe just another one for good measure. Shit. What was that? It's the old macerator. Right. So, so guys. I like to start off with a fine brush just because my attention to detail. I'm so much.

And my portraits is quite important. Okay. I saw Gigi Hadid do this really, she got this really cool piece of art from someone. And it's inspired me. So I'm really thrilled that I now have a canvas. Now, there you go. So I can just sort of project what's on my mind. Perfect.

Well, I didn't tell you this earlier, but a bit of chat whilst we're painting. Met Jo Jonas yesterday. JoJoanna. Quite iconic that you met Jo Jonas. What was he like then? He was a lovely guy. He was very polite. I mean, I literally said about two words to him.

But he was very professional, very good at his job. And a real, yeah. Just a nice guy. A real catch. Really? He was very sweet. He was FaceTime. He was kids.

Oh. I know. So yeah, that was nice. And he's a Sophie. So his baby mum is Sophie Turner. So she obviously lives in the UK. Is she English? Yeah.

She's a London girl. I've seen her in Labbert Grove before when you used to live there. She used to pass us quite a few times and I'd go that Sophie Turn. You'd go who? Every time. Same with that Aaron Taylor Johnson. We used to always see him around. Yes.

In old Leila. Great people watching. Let me tell you guys. I'm off to a flying star here. Are you? Mine's looking really quite weird, but stay with me, guys. Stay with me. Do you ever remember at school when you were doing art class and you had the timed,

you had to draw something under timed conditions? No. And you'd like, at the start of it, you'd put in loads of detail and it would be incredible. And then they'd be like, right, you've got two minutes left. And then you had to like finish the legs. And it was like, the people have like then realized they've had the same experience and put like photos of it online. and it's like a really beautiful horse's head and body and then just like stick legs.

That was me. My time management wasn't ever very good. But it's like any exam at school when you like just have creative writing which as a dyslexic person was like virtually impossible. And I would honestly like create this story in my mind and I was like this is the best story ever and I come to write it down and it would just be so shit

and I try and concentrate so hard on the first like introduction part and then it would be like the end of the exam and I would like, but I've literally like no. story there. That would always panic me so much. A timer on a wall is panicked. I'm glad that we'd never have to do an exam ever again. Oh, Toby, I think about this all the time. Like, me and my friend Mills were, well, yes, we were in free people. And there was these two girls, obviously at uni, and they were talking about dissertation. And I just thought, that is my idea of hell. However,

would have loved the uni experience. Yeah. And like, I don't know the stories about going out and like the drama with like your friends and like boys and I don't know it just sounds like so fun and I missed out on that obviously. Well me and you both. Yeah. So how are you getting on over there? Oh, to be honest, I'm worried about the time. You've got quite broad shoulders in mine.

I apologize. Oh, I haven't actually drawn anything to do with you yet. Should we talk about Ruby's engagement? Oh my God, yes. That came out of nowhere. Very nonchalant engagement. I love it. I know.

She sort of just like, you just called her for a. birthday catch up. She called me and I was like, this is weird. I wasn't going to call her because I assumed she was so busy on her birthday morning. And I was like, sweet angel just wants to chat on her birthday. And we had FaceTime like a few days before. And boom. There it was. Obviously we've had her on the pods actually since then. So I've really, I fucked this up already then. Mine's pretty good. What is it? Oh, I'm gel. I've also completely done it wrong. Oh, no, haven't. We're okay. We're okay. We're okay. Right, I'm now going to mix some colors. So these are going to be the colors that I think represent you, Len. What? Is my reason, am I really horrible in

yours? It's not good. It's not good. It might cause some offense, but that is not my fault. What's your favorite date you've had in me? There's been a lot, I guess. Maybe one of my favorite ones is one of our early ones and we went to E&O. That was so nice. Oh yeah, that was nice. That was like fun. Um, I, you know what I really like, the weekend that we had together, when we got back together in Somerset, where you used to live, and we went and we stayed in the Shepherd Hut. We didn't stay in the Shepherd Hut. We watched, oh, we watched a film in the Shepard Hut. We stayed at Bavington. And we watched a film in the Shepard's up. And then we could. I love it how in your, in your memory, it's that we stayed in the Shepherds'at. I thought we did. There's no bed.

Oh yeah, that's so true. Yeah, we watched a film. We would have like made a fire. You're right. Yeah, you're right. That was lovely. That was nice. You're right.

That was fun vibes. We've had a lot of nice ones. We've gone to like the pigs' ear and we had before Christmas. You're right. We went to pigs here and Chelsea. And like this is the normal date lights like that we used to have. Yeah, just like a low key and then we'd get a lime scooter home. Which we, when was the, we did one recently like that.

But the annoying thing, we used to go to this lovely restaurant called Chikama. Oh yeah. That was so close to us. And that was like our go-to dates for. and we'd walk there, have some fun, maybe go to another pub on the way back. Wouldn't we? Every time.

Yeah, it was... And then Lyme Home, but now Chikama's turned into Botagra and you just cannot get in there for love nor money. So now our local date night spot's gone a bit... Where do we go? We need to, like, rediscover... A new spot.

Yeah, a new... Can I also just quickly, whilst we're talking about lime scootering home, settle something, that the noise, the start-up noise of a lime... Oh my God, this is something that... Toby and I talk about... We argue about this every time. Every time we get online.

Do what you think the noise is. It's not, right? It's... No, it goes up at the end. It does not go up at the end. It goes... No, it doesn't. It goes...

Then it goes... Dan-dan-dan-dan. Sometimes you can find some really rank things in the basket of a line bike. I had a Smirnoff bottle in there that was finished, that the one was rattling around and I just didn't want to touch it. So it was like every time I went over a speed bump, it would fly out the basket. Oh, God. That's pretty.

I've had like an old McDonald's bag. Yeah, I've had nothing like really bad. One of my friends had a turd in it. Which isn't good. Shut up. Who? He had a poo. Oh, no.

Stop. And it was like, always funny things happened to him. He's always got something to put on his story. And one of them was like, he had a poo. And obviously didn't get on the line, but there was a poo in the basket. What a human poo? Yeah. Well, yeah, like a dump.

Sorry, how would one even do that? Like, cramble, sit in the basket. I almost don't believe that. That's ridiculous. Did you see a photo? Yeah, you put it on a story. Grim. That is so awful. Going off topic that.

But I'd say, yeah, those little date nights where we just have a really nice chill dinner, the two of us. One of our early dates, you took me to a salsa dancing. Bar salsa. Which for you is incredible because you are an amazing dancer. For me, who hasn't got any rhythm or coordination, it was a terrifying first date or like early date because I felt very much on the back foot. You are very good at break dancing, though. That is true. No, no, guys. It's really good. Like, actually really, really good.

I'm really good for about four seconds. I've got one little routine that is fantastic. And then after that it goes to shit. Right. A nightmare date for me, just so you know, not that you have a plan dates anyway, which is fine. You're not a planner. I'm not a planner. It's okay. We just have managed to scramble together at dinner. It's an activity date. It's, I hate it, mini golf. Yeah.

But then, like, there's so many people like my sister and her husband like love an activity date. I had a few activities days. And my friend Ali loves an activity date. Yeah. I also think eating early on in a date. It's quite tough. Like first date, if someone, obviously luckily, more often than not, the guy is the one that organised the day, organizes the date.

So I wouldn't organise to go for dinner on a first date. But to eat on a first date. That's hard. I just, that nervousness gets to you and then you've got an appetite. So then eating food seems like a challenge. And then you've got to worry about food going on your face. Oh, God, I know, or in your teeth. Or in your teeth.

When we were, like, quite early on dating. Actually, no, maybe not that early on dating. How many months dating, or maybe it was like a year's? We went for dinner. It must have been months. I had the, like, hugest bit of trive in between my front teeth. It was massive, and you didn't say anything to me until I had, like, gone to the loo or, like, looked in the mirror or something, like, hours after. And I was like, we ate hours ago.

Why is this? And you were like, oh, I just thought it was quite sweet. And I was like, what? So then as revenge, the next day, we went to the pear tree cafe for some breakfast. And Toby had shit loads of mayonnaise around his mouth. And I just didn't say anything. I had like, all around my mouth. And I walked up to get water from the bar, like from the little coffee area,

through the whole place with mayonnaise all around my mouth. Melissa didn't say anything, only until I sat back down. It was quite severe as well, not going to lie. It was fucking embarrassing. What's the most romantic thing you've ever done for me other than propose? Oh. You're not that romantic? I'm not really.

Do you think I am? Not really. Maybe we should work on that. Maybe we should. I feel like we're very good at showing love in the ways that we want to show love. But romantic. I made you a photo album one year for your birthday. Okay.

You filled up two pages up and the rest of the book and you didn't stick them down. They're loose in the book. And you were like, I'm going to fill up the rest of the book. It sat empty ever since you gave me to me. I know. That isn't good, Ricketts. I know. So, no, neither of us are.

really that romantic but the most romantic thing I think I've done for you is the note you wrote me off because yeah that was really lovely yeah I swear I've done something else really nice haven't I oh I made you the ring oh yeah but that wasn't off your own back that was like you that was like an activity that Bronte King had arranged for her girls too and then that was no that was no that was you were like oh I'll have to make something I'll make unless a ring no that's that was the one in when we went to Bali I mean the one um they're so bright mirroring. Oh yeah.

That was sweet. You didn't make me that, yes. She made it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is probably better because if I'd made it, wouldn't have looked very good, just like my drawing right now. Guys, mine is really cool. I'm not going to lie.

Like, I'm going to put this up in the house. Do you think? It's going to go up in the bathroom. I reckon I could do a couple rip-offs of this and, you know, sell it on Etsy. I've just discovered Etsy. As an up-and-coming artist. Etsy is phenomenal. It's really quite...

What have you discovered on there, then, fortunately. So there's been a lot of chance. around witches on Etsy. And so I was like, I've been listening to my podcast. Yeah, about these Etsy witches. Yeah. So I was like, what else can they do? They do all sorts.

Yeah, I know. But then apparently what is it? Come back to me, love, spell. With witches that once you use, if you use a spell, then it's going to, you're, it's like a, you owe them something in another way. That scares me. That's like getting involved with a gangster. Yeah, you like forever are in debt.

You're in debt to someone. Well, I. Never be in debt to a witch or a gangster. There's a question on this thing, which is, would we get a pre-up? Oh, shit. Is that one of the cards? Yeah. I love that.

I don't think pre-nups hold up in the UK, so I don't really think that's a point. I like the idea that a pre-nup basically actually makes you more secure, I think, because there's less fear. Yeah, what's that statistic? There's less, more relationships that have pre-naps actually mean that they last longer. They'd end up less in divorce? Less divorce. Right, which is, I don't understand how, I think, because the fear around what happens. if you were to break up

can often put a pressure on the relationship whereas if you know where you are Yeah Then you're not scared of what would happen if it went wrong So you've got less pressure to make it go right Which actually means that you are better in the relationship I've just given you eyes I'm not sure if we're going to bother

Okay let's reveal our paintings Oh Len Lovely Why have I got a bob I don't know Quite broad shoulders Do you know what that's reminding me of salad fingers

I don't know why I think it's good Oh my God, I look like, oh my God, I look the character from Rugrats and nice big chin as well. I know. Well, let's not get fucking started on features being warped. Also, why can you just draw my mull? That's like such an easy thing to depict that. That's what I look like.

You're right. You can add that in. There we go. I don't think I've ever been more out of proportion. No, I know. Should I tell you what this all stands for? Yes, please. That's great.

So the pink represents me. with the green flowers. Lovely. Because it's good for healing. Are they? And then the brown represents you. Because. With the pink flower just because it represents the earth.

Thank you very much. And then you're in the middle. That's lovely. My idea was that I was going to do like different colour flowers for like the flowers that you got me on our engagement. I have. That's really lovely. I have. I should have done your cheekbones.

And my new teeth. And I've done your, oh yeah. I've just done your ears too. Yeah. I have to say you have got a net for it. Well, that's the end of sipping paint. I've thoroughly enjoyed that. I did.

Thank you so much for arranging there. It is nice to get a bit of creativity. Okay, we're going to do some dilemmas now. You ready? Ready as I'll ever be. Jut your advice hat on. Okay, dilemma one. Hey, I love the pod, so I thought I'd write in my dilemma.

I'm finishing my A-levels and excited for summer with my friends, but I feel like one girl in my group, let's call her lily, is really overly focused on her boyfriend. At sixth form, we usually sit together as just girls, but her boyfriend is always there too. That is just so annoying. There's nothing worse than someone just doesn't quite get the hint. He's quite nice, but shy and doesn't talk to the boys in our group. So he's constantly with the girls.

Oh, no, that makes me sad, actually. No, I feel bad why I just said. There have been awkward moments like when I was made to stand for a long time while everyone else sat down at the pub because Lily said a seat was saved for him, even though he wasn't there yet. He's also in our girls' group chat, which makes it so hard. to talk about personal and girly things, sorry. That's rogue. What?

It's not a girl's group chat then if he's in it. That's weird. Surely she's like, can you? That's like a GBF. Have, yeah, have some independence away from me. Like you're not one of the girls. You're my boyfriend. It's different thing.

We're going on a girl's holiday. No, no. But he's the only boyfriend coming to, so it's not even a girl's holiday now. No one said anything because we feel bad since he doesn't have any friends, but I'm worried it meansily he won't have time to spend with us.

What should I do? I mean, this guy needs to get the hint. I don't understand how he doesn't feel awkward, taggy along with all the girls. Fine if it's every now and then, and you're like being kind and, like, he... The girls' group chats, that's the... The group chat on the holiday is a step too far. Go on your own holiday with your boyfriend, but don't involve him in the girls' trip. That's, that...

It changes the whole dynamic. But it's also just a bit of a... It's a bit like off-putting, isn't it? it's icky yeah i would be like where's that's like a girl constantly coming on the lad's holidays and the lad's just been very sweet but like it's a lad's holiday like it's not intended for the girlfriend's to come or the boyfriends to come i um i yeah that would i think that that's how do they broach this bless him because if he's struggling to make some pals that's that's that's really sad that is that is so include him in some stuff but i think that this is too far you got to encourage him also

you got to maybe if you if he's not allowed to come on these holidays and he's not on the group chat. Maybe that will encourage him to go and make some more friends to use his time. Because he's obviously using it as like a safety net. Oh, I'll just go on holiday with them. Whereas if you're like, really sorry, it's the girls trip. You don't know how he feels comfortable doing that. I know. I would feel really fucking, like conscious. You even feel bad sometimes when I invite you to the pub and...

And there's another girl. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm invading boy time. I like don't... I know I'm not. But like, I'd prefer not to actually. I'm like, unless there's other girlfriends going, then I'll go. But it just feels however you invade girl, guy quite a lot. He loves it. My favourite. No, we just, we live close to... I know, that's always by default.

It's not like it's ever planned. Then the girls will be walking to Pilates and I'll just join for the walk, you know? Yeah. I don't actually go into Pilates, but I'll come for the walk. You should though. I should. There is quite a lot of guys in there doing it. It's good for the nervous system.

It's good for the nervous system. Anyway, back to the dilemma. Listen, if it was me, I would chat to the other girls and be like, let's just make another group chat. Mm-hmm. Just girls. You're the admin, you add everyone. And you say, right, for the next holiday.

holiday, you have to deal with this one. You just have to deal with it. Get on with it. The next holiday on the next things that gets planned, this is girls only. And then maybe create another group chat with all the girls and all the boys. So it's like, you are doing both things. You're not excluding him. And then it maybe gives him the opportunity to merge a bit more with the other guys. And hopefully form some friendships. Yeah, because obviously mixing of genders is fine. But like sometimes when you want it to be just the girly, it's like, I so get that. Yeah, it's just from like a relationship point of view, you don't want to, you, you want to have the two separation, the separation of the two things, like girls time and time with your boyfriend.

Other half. So I would say you've got to draw a line in the sand and be like, sorry, dude, you ain't coming. Does she, I'm like also have so many questions about this. Like, does she ask, like, hey guys, is it okay if John comes along? Or is it just always assumed now because he's in the group chats, everything's to stay? I can imagine it's assumed that John will be there. Did the girls love him? Like, or is it just awkward?

Does the girls have a good time? Do people like really love him being there? Like, I know, it's just, it's just, it's just, if they broke up, like, what the fuck would he do? Yeah, John's fucked. That's not good. And like, she, I think Lily needs to see that that's not in his best interest, just hanging out with her and her friends because he'll have nobody if they break up.

Mm-hmm. But anyway, it's got a start. I think we both agree on that one that it's got. I think it just needs to be nipped in the bud before it comes. Okay, please tell us what happens. Okay, dilemma two? Yeah. Dilemma two, let's go.

Hey, Toby and Melissa, I need your help. So I have been on five dates with this guy I met on Hinge. They've honestly been five amazing dates and he's such a great guy. He's funny. He's hot. He's 26 and I'm 24. However, I got to the point now where I'm starting to catch feelings. I don't want to fully commit just yet.

So I'm going to go on a date with another guy. I was also talking to on Hinge so I can test my feelings. I told my friend group I was going on a date with a different guy. and half them thought I was crazy, and the other half thought it was a smart move. The date with guy number two is booked for this weekend. Guy number one has no idea. My question is, am I being smart or am I being stupid? And if the date with Guy 2 goes well, do I even tell Guy 1?

We'd love to know your thoughts, as I know you guys met online. It's so weird, I was actually talking about this yesterday. This guy that I met yesterday, who's a videographer. Sorry, this guy who's on set. Oh, my God. What is going on? This happens when we're at home when it's like there's no one else around. I'm like, stop not getting nervous.

It's just us. This guy. that I was working with yesterday is shooting the girl, she's a model, and he's filming the girl that I had planned to go on a date with after you and I had gone on our first date. And I voiced noted her saying, really sorry, but I don't want to go on the date anymore because I've met someone that I had a really good relation,

like really good spot with, and I'm going on another date with her, and I don't feel like it's fair to go on a date with you. Which is like so nice for me, but also like to receive that voice note. Anyway, that's really nice. My point being that in that situation, I knew that you and I had a lot more a spark. So the advice you're going to say is? But my caveat to that is that if it does go well and you end up being in a relationship together,

like it's always... Do you want to look back like, shit, I went on that other date and kind of have to lie about it? Well, there's that. But then also, if you do go on the other day and it doesn't go well, at least you've kind of like... Ruled it out. And you've scratched the itch. Yes.

And then you can go into that relationship. knowing, yeah, I tried other dates. And actually, I had such a better time with this guy. I'm so clear on that this is the sort of person I want to date. Yeah. Or you go on a date with the other person and it kind of goes kind of good, kind of bad, but like you can then make more of a decision. I see what you're saying.

My personal story, I feel like to give some round about advice, I think if you go for a lunchtime date with somebody and it's really light and be like, if you feel the need to ever have to tell him, you don't have to fucking tell him. If you don't kiss this guy, you actually don't need to tell him until a few months in and be like, look, I already had this lunch date in with this guy, like, arranged. We were two weeks into dating, but I already had this arranged. I just thought, you know what? I didn't know where we stood.

I did it. Obviously, nothing happened. But like, I think that's, and if you end up really liking this guy, then I guess that also then answers your question. Okay, that's the end. Thank you, Angel. Well, some good dynamics there. A bit of painting done.

Thanks, Len. Pleasure. Thank you, too. Love you, too. That's it for this week, Wednesdays. But, God, don't you just fancy some more, Melissa? Yeah, I'd really love a follow-up to some of those dilemmas. I want to know what happens. Well then, Tiny's, we have got some news for you. We have launched a premium version of Wednesdays.

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