Wednesdays - 26: My boyfriend had SIX 'secret' girlfriends

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

You’re in for a treat today Tinies, as this week’s ‘Wednesdays’ is juicier than ever!Sophie and Melissa sit down for some long overdue girl chat, with Melissa spilling some piping hot ‘Love Island’ tea and Sophie revealing the power of manifestation in her life.On the dilemma front, we’re hit with our CRAZIEST cheating story yet: a Tiny who found out that her boyfriend had seven secret girlfriends. Sophie and Melissa also give their advice on how to say “I love you” for the first time, and a very incestuous friendship group.Keep your dilemmas, your opinions on the dilemmas, and follow ups coming our way via socials and emails!Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: [e-mail]:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsExec: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Video editor: @jakeji.pSocial Media: @thechampagency Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melissa are you a doctor uh I want to be but I'm not I'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and we're not experts at anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help morning good morning happy wednesday happy wednesday i really like it wednesday right we're just gonna we're gonna jump into it we're gonna have some galley chats and we're gonna have some catch-ups and then go into some dilemmas we both have quite a lot to report on don't we number one Number one, I think I've got frozen smile, which is probably one of the worst.

Oh, yeah, let's talk about that. Okay. We all know that Melissa and I get Botox in our jaw now and again because I actually wait way longer. We used to both do it every three to four months, right? I wait longer than that. I do it at five. Yeah, but we used to.

Oh, right, when we first... I never stopped doing it then you made the error it's really not that bad i'm not gonna do it because i just don't want to draw attention to it but that might be happening i'm gonna chew loads of gum and i'm just never gonna get it done again do you ever also when it's cold outside get a really cold cramped jaw when it comes back to in the cold because my jaw cramps when it's cold outside and when the muscles come back. How weird is that? No, but my jaw clicks whenever I orgasm. Wow, that story took another turn. Wait, have I not told you this?

It clicks. No, guys, my jaw dislocates whenever I orgasm. Yeah, it goes... Oh my goodness gracious. I don't know if Jamie's worked that out, but it does. Does it go click, click, click, click? No, it like just jars. I don't know what happens. It's done, but it does. Does it go click, click, click, click? No, it like just jars. I don't know what happens.

It's done it from get-go, like first time. And I remember being like, that was weird. So faking it must be quite tricky. Do you know how to pretend to do it? No, I don't pretend to do that because Paul Major would get fully arthritis in it, wouldn't it? That is weird that it does that. I wonder why. I wonder why, whether Jamie understands that it's doing it either.

He's never commented on it. He probably doesn't. Boys are so oblivious to everything. No, yeah, they are. No offense, guys. Thank God he doesn't, because then otherwise it'd be like a real schlep every time I went after.

Oh, God, yeah. You're like, I'm going to have to click my jaw again. Yeah. That would be really hard. Here we go. Let's fake it. Come on. Let's get your acting face on.

Yeah, jaw. Come on. Ow. I'll be walking around with like my jaw hanging low. We've got some massive, massive, massive news.

I've been harbouring this, trying to bring it up on, I was in a surprise sofa that I couldn't, so I actually just told her the other day. Well she forgets and then I was like,

you must tell me now before you forget and like, God almighty, I just feel upset. So I was on FaceTimeetime no ruby was around mime we're having coffee in the morning this is like five days after we had the gorgeous molly and tom on from love island and i was like oh we just had lovely molly and tom i was just like gushing over how gorgeous they were and how in love they were she goes she's like oh my god tom clare yeah i am was talking to him for a bit actually last year and I was like, what?

This is Tim, if you know Ruby. This is Ruby down to AT. She tells, she's such a gatekeeper. She keeps her cards so close to her freaking chest and then she'll tell you like five months after. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on a date with him. I'm like, what?

Anyway, so she said that he sent in her DMs. I wish I knew this when we had him on because I would have asked him about it. This is all right before he went on to Love Island. He was talking to her for a bit and then they were out in Bluebird, Ruby and her friend. And they were still talking and he was like, do you want to meet up or something? Anyway, she was like, look, I'm in Bluebird right now. Do you want to join us?

And he just went and joined them for a drink. And there's a photo of both of them together. If you know Ruby, she's like, what, five foot three? She's the tiniest little being. No, I'm five four. She's maybe five three, five two. I don't know, actually.

She's just dinky, winky dinky. A gorgeous, dinky little. And then he's obviously six five and this photo is just amazing. Are you guys ready for this? It looks like she's on a date with her dad

or her older brother. It sucks me. Like, she's literally in his armpit. It's so sweet. Oh, my tiny girl. So, unfortunately for Like, she's literally in his armpit. It's so sweet. She's so small. My tiny girl. So unfortunately for us,

we don't have Tom Clare in our lives because Tom went on Love Island and fell in love with Molly and we're very happy for them. But you know, what could have been? What could have been? What could have been? He could have been duck triple dating you, me, Jamie and Tobes.

Oh my God, that would have been unreal. On the topic of Ruby, Melissa and Ruby have been bitching about me, basically, slagging me off because they were so upset that my nails are...

No, I'm not going to say it was bitching. No, I know. It was a discussion from love. You had been like, we have to tell her and she had been like, you've got to tell her.

I know. This hasn't just been one discussion. It was always like, so what's up with Sophie's nails? I don't know. This is their conversation. It was what's up with it?

She sits down and she's like... It comes from a place of love and concern. I know it does. I know know it does and she sits down and she goes couldn't look me in the eye she goes see we were just talking about like it's funny how you get all those you spend all that money on facials but your nails are never done and you're I'm like and you're panicking as you say and I'm like oh and you're like I just think you just need to get by Av and I was like in my head I was like that's them they've been like we have to have an intervention now the time's come I know well it was you know what also those gorgeous rings on your fingers

and like I was like it was just not all going together nicely and now thank I look how much different that I do you know what i'll be forever grateful because i firstly just love the honesty and secondly i've never felt more put together in my life race i look down i wake up in the morning and i'm like i really feel joyous you know what's stuck in my mind i've told you this before when we were all really young and we used to go out clubbing and we shouldn't have been and we were all underage i remember we were going to drury i don't know anyone remembers drury nightclub. I was like 15 Mayfair. Where was Drury club Mayfair?

Yeah, that's where I went at. And a girl in the above me, Ems. We're like quite good friends now. But she is the most, you've met her, the most polished, gorgeous girl ever. Always a blow dry once a week. Groomed. Perfect makeup. Perfect hair.

Everything's steamed. You know like we turn up and I've got like a bit of shit on my jeans or like i've got fluff on my black coat there is none of that this girl like pristine do you know who she's giving me and the nutritionist beautiful pristine girl so she's like 16 i'm like 15 and we're going to this club and she didn't have her fake id and um the guy on the door was like show show me your nails. Obviously being her, she had perfect gel manicured nails ready for the weekend. And he was like,

all right, you can let any young girls that are underage don't get their nails done. Put together girls that are old that have their nails done. Do you know what's funny about that? That was his theory.

And he let her in. There is something though about having clean, natural, no, when you're tanned in the summer that nothing. Totally agree.

But only if they're manicured and they are all like the same length. But when I was younger, right, know when you're tanned in the summer that nothing... Totally agree. But only if they're manicured and they are all like the same length. But when I was younger, right? When I was like 24, my nails always look manicured when I was younger. It's something about getting older. Like your nails just don't last.

Really? Like they're just not... Like they look gross after five days. Yeah. Like I used to... When I was doing Made in Chelsea... It's more upkeep without this, for sure, I think.

Because you have to then trim the cuticles, maybe give them the polish or file them. Always have to be white. Yeah. There's actually a pencil that you can buy to go under your nail that colours the white part of your nail whiter. My granny told me about it.

I think it's from Malva. I think you can get it from Lowe's. You can get it from Amazon. Her nails are like this, but they're natural. And she always just goes under with a little white pen to make them look a bit more groomed. That is stunning and there is something about, but I will say

I do love, there are certain people like Tani Hackett, you know Jade, like she always has the most perfect nails, perfect hands you know there are just some people. Me? Yes. Why don't you just give me a compliment it's me. I have made sure my nails have been done every single day but there's something about really short perfect manicured nails oh right fine don't give me any credit it's fine your nails are

perfect but i don't know why i never think of you as a nail girl it's because i never do anything other than nude they're just like that all the time. I'm never going to stop getting by. Thank God. I like truly. I now, I needed that stern word. Okay, guys. We have some other dramas. And we've got some good news and some bad news. Your bad news is?

Oh, my car got towed. Really upsetting. I went to see Sophie to have her nail appointment. Then we walked up the King's Road. I then walked home, walked around the corner. And I was like, fucking car's gone. And I was like fucking car's gone and I was like it's been stolen I look on my cctv it's been towed so I then had to go to cancel yeah but I wasn't sure if it was a legit tow because a lot of people tow cars to steal them and I was like oh is this real anyway it was real and I parked on a single yellow

even though it was right outside my house and even though I do have a permit I thought it was real and I parked on a single yellow even though it was right outside my house and even though I do have a permit I thought it was fine on a Saturday after 12pm it's actually after 6pm give a girl a break they towed my fucking car

they would have seen I had a permit like just give me a ticket not a normal car either so I went to go and pick it up and it was basically £400

because I had to pay the ticket and then the tow charge it was like £390 something that's disgusting well I started my Saturday so then my friend Mills

took me out for a few drinks and cheered me up. Anyway, good news is Jamie, at the ripe old age of 35, has passed his driving test. Can I get a yee-haw? I'm honestly thrilled. I'm so excited.

He's still a little bit scared to drive my little Fiat. He drives, you know, when you fast pass and you're so close to the... Oh my God, maybe you should get him some pee plates

so everyone knows he's just passed oh no no no that's embarrassing he's 35 yeah but if he's I'm so broke do you know my sister still doesn't drive

she loses sleep over it poor girl she did not pass her driving test no she didn't what scares me is like if you have kids who's in driving to school and shit

I think she'll learn in the summer it doesn't she knows how to drive same as Jamie it's just like taking I think the theory but she's now the theory's a driver to school and shit. But I think she'll learn in the summer. It doesn't... She knows how to drive, same as Jamie. It's just like taking... I think the theory, but she's now going to have to read...

The theory's a bitch. And it's so much harder than it was back in my day. Back in my day, it was easy as pie. I wouldn't say it was easy. A lot of people failed, but apparently it's harder now.

I don't know how I passed with two. I'm pretty sure I went out onto a roundabout, like completely didn't start. I had one minor. I manifested it. I'm not going to lie out onto a roundabout like completely didn't stop I had one minor I manifested it I'm not going to lie my dad had given me

the book The Secret just before my driving test right I'll let you into a secret so I was put in like foundation maths which is basically where the top grade

can get a C and my dad it's actually harder did you know because you have to get 80 something percent in your test right

and then he gives you a secret and I'm reading this and I'm like okay well I know how to manifest I'm like what 16 at this time when you're doing your gcse anyway my dad's like i don't want my daughter to sit foundation like went in school was like poor

and higher they were like she's not learned the curriculum like she she won't know what this is anyway i had a week i had some lessons outside went in guess what i got guys i manifested a star in higher shut yes what the fuck they definitely mixed up your results no guys I manifested A star in higher shut up yes what the fuck they definitely mixed up your results somewhere no guys I got A star in all my GCSEs

god only fucking I'm so good at exams I manifested it oh my god I had to have a writer and a scribe anyway then I got two minors

in my driving test and I am not a good driver I manifested I went to see I'm gonna get an A star I'm gonna get an A star I visualised me receiving the thing

did it all. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's amazing. Unbelievable, right? I'm shooketh about the driving test. Shooketh, too. I'll tell you a secret about my friend.

This will make you feel sick. Her driving instructor would eat sloppy croissants, like oil everywhere, like these rank foods, and have it all over the same meal. And then she'd have to sit in and, like, croissant juice all over, you know, the flaky bits of pastry. She'd be like, you all right?

Oh, just hideous, right? That is hideous. God. Celebrity Big Brother. I'm not watching it. No, neither am I. But I'm watching the clips. Do we need to watch anything now

before we watch TikTok? Probably not. It's a real shame. Same with Instagram. I, like, just go and watch all the trailers and i'm like i've literally seen everything cut down into three minutes instead of watching something 40 minutes okay so break brothers one thing but i just need to touch on before i forget yellowstone casey okay right she loves i started i actually think i'm in love but i found it a bit slow we'll try tune into

casey and i only watch KC because Kevin Costner whatever he's called I would any time of the day and KC's the fittest thing you will ever really like next level

better than any other boy we've seen in the program okay right maybe I will start watching it but then you follow him on Instagram

and he's like a real country boy singer and then it just throws you off but I do love that too but just not not quite what you think have you also seen

the Bella Hadid's dating a full on cowboy it throws me off threw me me right it's like so not the vibe i was expecting with the big cowboy bow yeah and she's like wearing the whole cowboy vibe like going to all his rodeos i did get told multiple times that i was going to live on a ranch when i was older by a psychic well you're not living on a ranch now, hun. Well, I might do if I meet Kevin Costner or Casey. Well, let's hope not, because I don't think Jamie's going to live on a ranch. I know, I know.

But if you do watch it, you will want to live on a ranch. I am a bit confused, though. People get shot all the time, because in those westerns, everyone fucking gets shot. Yeah, they're, like, really powerful, and they all just get shot, and, like, they fall off the horse, break their legs, and they're like,

get back up, son. You know, I've been to Yellowstone National Park. Sorry, this is the coolest thing ever. Why? Doing what? Because they used to live in America and we used to, every summer we used to go, we used to go, we used to get into an RV because we used to have this holiday home there. What's an RV? A big van that you sleep in?

Have you ever seen We Are The Millers? Yeah. And then you stop and then the sides expand and your living room is so fun. It like a tour bus kind of thing but at a house on wheels it's so fun you say you dream about being like living another life and being that parisian crazy horse girl you did live another life hun me going on a little holiday with my family is so different to me it isn't you were fully backpacked you were we are the millers yeah why do you don't worry we're picking up drugs and taking them across fricking Mexico though

that was not a fricking good film I love that movie anything with Jan Ann in hey guys my friend and I have been going to Pilates every week

together and my friend has a huge crush on the instructor oh my god a male Pilates instructor. He's really tall and sexy. She's giving him the eyes and big cheesy smiles throughout the class.

I'm sorry, no. For me, I couldn't. Like me bending upside down with my tits hanging over my face. Not that they do that, but that's what I'm picturing. Or like my arsehole in his face. Yes, you also just do some quite unflattering things. And like when you're, just no. You know what I'm envisioning?

What's that? I think it's actually in Sex and City where she falls in love with her yoga teacher and she starts shagging him. No, he's celibate. He doesn't ever have sex. And she's like, Samantha's obviously very horny gal. And he never gives up the sack, whatever you call it.

Speculation. Do we think she's talking about herself here? Because it's like, he's very sexy and very tall and anyway he's a bit older we're guessing early 30s oh and we're 20 i think age is just a number age is just a number but then again me if i'm 29 if i was with what a 45 i would probably say i'm 46 yeah unsure. But you know what does happen? How can she make a move without embarrassing herself? We have discussed doing exercises wrong on purpose just so he'll come over and correct it. Any advice to my friends?

Unrequited love. First things first. I remember having a PT. He wasn't a PT, but... That's dangerous territory. You fancied your PT? No, I didn't, but I think he fancied it. Hey, of course he did.

Oh, my God. We had a cameraman on me in Chelsea that fancied me. No, I didn't, but I think he fancied it. Aye, of course he did. Oh my god. We had a cameraman on me in Chelsea that fancied me, definitely. No, guys! There was this gorgeous, gorgeous cameraman. He wasn't my type, a very clean car. He's not my type either, but he was, compared to... You're just like a really pretty human boy. No, no, he was not my type at all, but out of all the cameramen,

they were all much older than us. He was quite young and gorgeous. Anyway, he would come in and he was like, occasionally once he dropped dropped into conversation he had a porsche and this was like knew he was the one and then every time she'd be like he fancies me i was like he's married with kids and no he doesn't anyway going around to me do you not remember this this guy he was i i used to wear these boots and the sole had come off anyway i left them in his car once he was driving me home and he comes to my house like a week later

to bring my boots back and he got them resold I remember this happening you have to block a B part that mate anyway I remember this anyway

when he used to stretch me it was like groin on vagina I used to be like like legger I would be like this is unacceptable maybe she just needs to ask him to stretch her out.

You know what? Also, I think there's a thing for just being brave. Just flirt with him at the end and see what the vibe is back. We need to make sure how much do we love this Pilates place? If it doesn't work out and he rejects you, is it going to be awkward you going back there? Can we sacrifice the Pilates studio and find another one if all goes to shit? That's number one we have to think about.

Let's get a backup plan for the Pilates studio. this is true see what he says and if he says no and you're like shit don't think i could bear going back there whilst he's teaching gonna have to go somewhere else fine you never have to see him again there's lots of pilates studios sweet but how would you go up to him just be like you want to go out like that's not in my bones or in my nature i think it's not i would flirt after the Just be like, do you want to go out? Like, that's not in my bones or in my nature. I think you've got to flirt. I would flirt after the session and be like, God, that was really good.

Touch his arm. He's obviously got an Instagram page, right? Because everything does now. Slide into the DMs and be like, oh my God, maybe ask for a private lesson.

Ask for a private lesson. Boom, jack-o'-luckers. Ask for a private session. Yeah, and perfume yourself up. Oh my God. Oh my God,

look really gorgeous. And then be like, oh my God, you know what? What are you doing later? We might go out for a few drinks if you want to join us. I personally find it really, really brave that you're wanting, like, I would feel so. The connection's there.

If I fancy someone in Pilates, like, I would not be going to the studio. I would just feel too exposed. You know what I would do? Always look at him a little bit too long than you should and then look away. So he's like, hmm, she's looking at me. Follow him on Instagram, but don't do anything. You're planting the seed. Like some photos, like some photos, don't say anything.

Like some photos. Reply to a story once. Then you reply to a story. And then you know what? You're really just opening up that door. Yeah, but you could also just be a pal. So, you know, you're never going to embarrass yourself. But you are showing him and then leave it to him.

And then, you know what? Down the line, definitely ask for a private session. And you can talk about all sorts of stuff then ask him if he's single yeah just start and you're gonna be like that's a normal conversation hun if you like if he's like yeah do you know what i mean like if he's like no i've got a girlfriend you can be like oh my god gorgeous how long you been together you've got your answer but if he's like single what's your type then oh my god and you're just planting that seed without really making a move. Yeah, yeah. You got it.

You listened. You heard it from here. I'm so invested. I need to know what happens. I want photos of him. Like, send us his Instagram. We need to see him. I want to go to the Pilates studio myself and check him out.

Absolutely. We should go on a recce to the Pilates studio. We should go on a recce. If it's in London, I will do it. I will take one from the team. I will book in. I will burn my from the team. I will book in. I will burn my booty for you. I will say, Melissa's really good.

We'll see. We'll go and have a looky look. If you want us, we will ask him what his type is. If he says blondes and you're brunette, we know you're not the one. I also would just love to know

if you actually go ahead and do anything about this. Sometimes the girls write back with the follow-ups and they're like you know what i just asked him out and it worked out so like there is a also thought something to be said for just being fucking brave and asking the question like it's not that deep if they say no they say no you know what i think boys really aren't turned off by it but i think that i'm just not brave we've got a fear of rejection that's why we've

got fear of rejection and so do boys that's why boys don't ask our girls it's just basically we're all living in a six six reciprocal like one person needs to just be the bold I know do the brave one otherwise nothing would happen otherwise no one

would ever go out with anyone otherwise we live in a stagnant world and nothing moves forward yeah okay I'm really excited about this one one of my best guy friends

let's call him Jay has been dating a girl on the outskirts of our friendship group. This girl has an ex who she was with for over two years, who's also in our friendship group, but like her, he's a bit on the outside too. Jay's not been stepping on anyone's toes by dating her, as they're not close guy mates, right? You follow?

Fine, yeah. Before this girl dated Jay, she also slept with another guy in our group. Let's call him Ollie. Fucking hell, this girl in this group. So, right, let's work it out. So, exes in the group, all on the outskirts, two boys in the group, she's dating them both.

She's dating one and slept with the other. Right, so everyone in this, how big is this friendship group? Because they all fancy her. I found this out, but I didn't tell Jay as I didn't want to look like I was stirring things up during the early parts of that relationship. This weekend, all of our friendship group went on a big night out

and to cut a long story short, she made a move on Ollie and they ended up sleeping with each other. Okay. But she's excused with Jay. Well, she's cheated then. She's cheated then. Okay. Now, Jay, my best guy friend, is devastated.

He's confided in me about how curt he is. I also told him about the first time the two of them slept together, as I thought that would be the end of their fling. However, he told me he wants to get back with her. Yeah. I don't want to be called a snake or look like I'm interfering in my friend's relationship, but she's bad news, what do I do?

Well, you can't say anything, really, as you said. You say it once and then you have to let it be. Yeah, you have to let it be you have to let it be so if i i would give my opinion then just be like look but ultimately anything you want to do i'll support you it's really hard though to then like i'm finding this there's a similar similar situation with me i'm finding it quite hard to ever imagine myself being friendly towards this girl now i don't think it will work out with this person now because in like the scenario that's going on in my friendship group it's very similar they were they were like exclusive but it was quite specific to this person i think she had had things within the past they'd been with each other a few times on a few occasions and um she promised him that she wouldn't sleep with this specific guy and she

did so it was like they were exclusive but only purely about this one guy if that makes sense it was like don't sleep with this one guy because he's in our friendship group and you're going away with him on this like holiday and then she ended up sleeping with him anyway right should i tell you to me that's game over i'm like you're dead to me like i don't want to make an effort with you i don't also all these other stories and i know this is assuming i'm talking about this all these other stories are coming out about her okay look like that she's done bad things in the friendship group i stand a bit by the fact if you're exclusive the boy should have fucking asked you to be his girlfriend because you don't know what's going on i stand by that like when i was if someone

says to you please categorically do not go and sleep with this person it would be it would make me your girlfriend it would be the end of this and i will promise i won't is that really weird like so then i'm gonna go and do it even because then i'm gonna go do it it's not right but it's not like technically it's like he should have made her his girlfriend. I don't think what she's done is right. But there's a gray area being called exclusive. Like, what are you? If you're just like dating and you're not boyfriend and girlfriend, there's a significant difference in being boyfriend and girlfriend when you meet the parents.

You are boyfriend and girlfriend. I so agree. To being exclusive. Like, to me, exclusive, you're just dating that person. And I don't think, like, there was gray areas of me and Jamie when we were just exclusive and look we're married the beginning of your thing was very messy and secretive and it was different scenario completely different this is okay so let me just say so Toby and I've been dating for a week we're really obsessed with each other right then I go and sleep with or he goes

and sleeps with this girl that he's had a thing with before i don't know a week fine then a month goes by we're we're like properly falling for each other at this point we're like we're spending a lot of time together at that stage if i was him i don't get why he's not going i don't want you to sleep with them will you be my girlfriend so he shouldn't it shouldn't even be a conversation like i really would rather you not sleep with him because that's giving her permission to sleep with someone else but not that particular girl. Like, there has to be a point where boys just be like,

will you be my girlfriend? Yeah. But in my opinion, this is still a sackable offence. Totally, I do agree. I'm like, no, don't. If Toby, a month after us dating, slept with someone else, I would be like, done so. Done so.

Absolutely fucking done so. God, I'm so god I'm unsure I'm unsure as the friend I mean you've got to sit back and watch you just have to let it and you know what

if that's be careful not to say too much that's his problem not yours really do you know what I mean and be careful not to say too much because if they do end up

getting married and being happy and you slag her off those you've always been the one that then your friendship with him will be really damaged yep I agree you've just got to stay a bit it's really tricky i think it's like if they ask

for the opinion be honest but be light with it be like look if it was me and i was going through this i think you would advise me not to go back there because that's probably the case but you know ultimately you have to figure things out for yourself and see if you're looking at it also from a perspective of having no feelings whereas he's invested with feelings it's tough he wants to forgive her by the sounds of it yeah i mean he almost and there's always excuses around it by being like they were exclusive you know what we weren't actually like boyfriend girlfriend so we'll let her off i think that's like don't get me wrong i don't think what she's done is okay like it would definitely be a question whether you continue or not but the fact they

aren't boyfriend and girlfriend isn't like 100% clean cut it's you know what i mean that's like there's no way back this is like at least he has the option to in front of his friends like dignify it to himself and be like we want boyfriend and girlfriend and maybe give her a second chance if he really wants to and if she fucks like, we want a boyfriend and girlfriend and maybe give her a second chance if he really wants to. And if she fucks up them when they're boyfriend and girlfriend, then you know. But at least he's, like, protected himself in some way that he's not going to look like a pleader.

I would also question, does she still have feelings for this Ollie guy? Because why is she setting him twice while she's dating you? Dating your friend, sorry. Also, like, is Ollie not knowing they're dating because he's being a bad mate? That's true. As the friend, you have to flag all

these things flag them so he's aware of them like why has Ollie done this why is that happening why she done that does she like you enough all of those things and then try and close your mouth don't say too much because ultimately he's gonna do what he's gonna do he's gonna learn his own lesson he'll probably tell the girl and be like she said this about you and like is that true and then she's gonna bitch about you and like is that true and then she's gonna bitch about you and it's gonna get messy it's gonna be a vicious vicious circle yeah I'm 27 and I'm currently in my first ever relationship with the guy who's 25 and also in his first ever relationship sweet we met on mumble about seven months ago and made it official

two months into dating all my friends and family are asking me has he said I love you yet to which my answer is no oh but it's his

first relationship give a boy break seven months I'd be like oh we're knocking on the door I would be like are you alright

but he probably just is a bit nervous let's just see what else is gonna go on down here they then ask if I love him to which my answer is I honestly don't know But he probably just is a bit nervous. Let's just see what else is going to go on down here. They then ask if I love him, to which my answer is, I honestly don't know.

Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Well, this is a bit of a problem. As we've both never had a relationship before, we're like the blind leading the blind. I can't work out if he's too nervous to say it in case I don't say it back, or if he thinks that stuff is too soppy, or he doesn't actually know if he loves me. Oh, so much overthinking. We get along so well and there's no problems with attraction or chemistry we spend most weekends together but aren't always in each other's space as we're both used to our own company this sounds like a gorgeous balance

I'm liking the sound of it I knew it's I know it's super unfeminist but I don't want to be the first person to say I love you kind Kind of fair enough. So fair enough. How do you know you're in love? Did you, like, when did you know you were in love with Jamie? This is such a tough question. You just know. Like, there's a moment and you're just like, oh. I feel like it builds and to the point where you're like, I just want to say it.

So you go, I like you so much. Yeah, you're like going to sleep and like, you just want to say it. You just want to say it, but you can't. I knew Jamie was going to Japan to film a TV show. Random. Well, that's a longer wait to film a TV show. Yeah, and I remember the night before thinking, I was, like, sinking feeling that he was going.

Sinking feeling. Right. I remember just feeling, like, so sad, but also so happy, because I was like, oh, this means I love him. Like, you know when you're, like, it just, it, like, overcompensates your body. How long into you guys, like, sleeping together was this? Sort of, like, seeing each other behind closed doors? This was, like, it just overcompensates your body. How long into you guys sleeping together was this? Sort of like seeing each other behind closed doors.

This was like, honestly, early on. So this might have been like May. And we got together in April. So April, March, May. Yeah, I think I probably knew that really early. But that was like the moment where it was like full on. I was like, I have to tell him. Sorry, did you just go April, March, May?

It's March, April, May. I was like, in my head, I was like, oh my God, is that the rightil way i was like in my head i was like oh my god is that the right and i was like that's three months right so it's march april may so three-ish months yeah what about you i would say i knew i was falling in love after like a week no i would say like a month i fully know i was falling in love i knew i fancied him so so so much from the moment I looked at him the fancy was always better than the love like that at the beginning you're like

is like great yeah that's long gone now I'm joking it's not you know what it is it's the nerves it's like the stress linked with attraction

is like very exciting like everything it's also quite nerve wracking like obviously it doesn't feel like that anymore constant like fanny flutters but all over your body

yes like you're constantly you're constantly it's almost like you're constantly dancing. You're constantly, it's almost like you're a bit anxious too. It's weird. Adrenaline everywhere. I still look at Toby every day and I'm like,

God, he's a gorgeous, gorgeous boy and I fancy him so much but that initial like, and I think this is what people mistake for love sometimes is that initial buzz and I used to get this

and this is why I've got this thing called, we learnt this from La La Let Me Explain. I've got this thing called limerence where I'm like, I bypass every this is why I've got this thing called, we learnt this from La La Let Me Explain. I've got this thing called limerence, where I'm like, I bypass every red flag because I've got this initial spike in attraction and fancy and caught up with it. So I override the red flags because I'm like, I can't see past them. Obviously, but who doesn't? I think a lot of people are like, boys are better at being like,

no, red flag, tacking it on. God, I'm not. If I fancy someone, I'm like, gun hoe. Same. Gun hoe. All red flags are gone. Almost all red flags make it better. I think it's a bit concerning that you don't know if you love him.

But love, you just fucking know. Like, love is an overwhelming feeling, I would say. It's first boyfriend, first girlfriend. It's all weird. You're learning everything, aren't you? You're learning everything. You don't know. And also, you know, not that being 27 and having your first boyfriend's old or 24's, it's all weird you're learning everything you're learning everything you don't know like and also

you know not that being 27 having your first boyfriend's old or 24s but a lot of people have experimented yeah those younger ages where you're a bit a little bit more naive i think there's almost more pressure because you've been in your head maybe a lot about it and like seeing other relationships and then you're comparing and thinking is this right, is this not? I think just go with the flow. I think that I love you thing is maybe a little bit something that we need to touch on because in my mind,

Why don't you just say it? Say it and see how it feels. Why would you not? Seven months in, he's younger. He's probably, my guess is that he's intimidated by you.

He feels comfortable, more comfortable in your space. He's obviously not like, you know, like that big alpha energy would like want him in her his space and like feel comfortable he doesn't sound like he's that confident within himself yeah yeah he's learning things on his feet I really think you should just say it I think that when you say it you're gonna feel great I'm just gonna say it and if you don't just say it when it feels right just say it when it feels right but also like if

you don't think you want to say it I think if you want to say it and you feel like i'm in love with him and i want to say it to him i said i love you to people i don't think yeah me too but i don't think i weirdly thought i did at the time but like i obviously didn't you know if you're enough the fact that you're like don't really know if i'm loving him or not to me kind of sounds a bit like hmm it feels like it's both of your first relationships i don't think it's probably going to be the one that you're with forever and ever and ever but i feel like it's everyone has them i had a relationship my first relationship like you know it just gets you through a lot of them i've had a lot i think you should just say i just say it just say it and let us know what it feels like what i'm I'm hoping for and this is me being so

what have you got to lose that's what I'm saying I hope that he doesn't truly truly truly love you so so so so so much and you're just saying it to test the water

and then he thinks that you're really in love with him but you are still with him and you're like actually you know what this is making me realise it's not right

and then you're like I have to go yeah but that's great then it cuts his losses and cuts our losses. There's no point in you both coasting. Just say it. See how it makes you feel.

You've got absolutely nothing to lose other than feeling fantastic. You're going to feel something from it and just listen to your body, listen to your feelings, listen to your head and your gut and go from there, sweetie. You know what? Maya Jammer says she loves Stormzy first.

So you know what? Girl power. Maya Jammer said she loves Stormzy first so you know what, girl power I am doing a story time and boy buckle your seatbelt, strap yourself in and take a little pew take a little pew I was dating Guy, we live with each other and I was taking care of his dog almost every day since he works a lot, we were very happy

also I thought, done done, done, done. Where do you think this story's going? He's cheating. Last September, I got a text from his ex. She told me that they've been sleeping together

every other week for our entire relationship. She also told me that he had invited her to go to the cinema with her and she had said no as she was going with someone else.

When she got to the cinema, she saw my boyfriend there with another girl so this he's seen with three girls at the same time so me and her team felt to investigate who this new girl was i love this this is giving me what's that movie what's that movie? What's that movie The Other Woman? We found her Instagram and told her everything. Guys,

you are taking that bitch down. This is fucking unreal. But it felt like there was more to uncover. This is quite John Tucker Musgrave vibe as well. It's not. Wow.

It's also like Alex Mitten back in the day, you know, when he like had that. Oh no. He got himself in a real pickle. I went through my boyfriend's

entire Instagram list and found pictures of his dog on three other girls' Instagram accounts. You can't be real. You can't be real. Are you sure that it wasn't just another cat that pooped

on every other Instagram? Fucking hell. That dog has been, fucking it's confused. That poor dog is confused with who his real mum is. I asked the girls if they were seeing him and they said yes. So at this point, I'd added up that, including me, his actual girlfriend,

he was sleeping with six girls at the time. How the hell does he have the time or the energy? That's a hell of a roster. Fuck me. But things got worse. I remembered that one time when I was walking his dog, I walked past a girl and the dog got so excited when he saw her. I asked my boyfriend about this girl and he said it was his hairdresser. Fuck.

You're all really close to each other. That's spooky. Six of them. You know what? He's playing a very risky game, like not bumping into one of the other ones. Yeah, that's why he's definitely a murderer because he obviously likes a thrill. I'm scared. I messaged her to ask if she'd been dating him and of course she had.

How did she find her name? She just did some deep dive stalking, right? Oh my God. So to conclude, he was taking seven girls all at the same time, and none of us found any signs of him cheating at all that time. He's a skilled, skilled artist.

I moved out, blocked him on everything, and never saw him again. The other girls confronted him, and apparently he is in complete denial. It's been six months, and my trust has been shattered. Is this all we got? I need to know more.

Do you have any tips for building my confidence up again? Right, first of all, I need photos. This is unusual. This is unusual. This is a very... You've really gone into a bit of an alien world with this. This is a unique situation. You've been completely and utterly catfished.

You've been completely and utterly swindled for every skin off your back. This is a code red situation. I need to see this boy in the face of them. I need to see this one a bit. For some reason, I feel like I've walked past him. I've crossed paths with him. I want to see the pooch. I guess the pooch is really cute. It's got to be a cover poo. I know it's a cover poo.

It always is, isn't it? We are a team of girls who need to protect one another. Sorry, this is... I've got all of your backs and you're all going to have mine. Not that I'm looking for a guy but you're gonna get out of there if i come across him i will step on his foot that's for sure sorry this is the most mental thing you should feel confidence because you left that son of a bitch straight away you're out the door you told all the other guys you didn't let him use your walk on you there's nothing about you that's weak you're strong and you are empowered and you left that pig on his own then didn't speak to him again you're not going back the

situation like when you're older and you're telling your friends or your kids this story new husband it's a great story to tell okay he's giving you some great bit of content there for the rest of your life and don't ever feel like it is definitely a human problem it's nothing to do with you those poor other girls Jesus that was a lot for today I loved every second of it I feel

I'm hot I'm palpitated I feel quite drained and like I often do after Wednesday that these people exist in the world same

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