Wednesdays - 28: I kissed my boyfriend’s older brother, and I don’t know what to do?!

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

It’s a new month! And Sophie and Melissa are taking on more of your new dilemmas.We’ve got a boyfriend caught texting a girl from a night out, getting to the heart of good and bad first date etiquette, our most heartwarming story time yet. And brace yourselves for this week’s big one: a Tiny who’s kissed her boyfriend’s older brother. In the words of Melissa, it’s all very Vampire Diaries.Wednesdays is now on WhatsApp! You can send us a voice note or message using the link here.Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: [e-mail]:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsExec: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Video editor: @jakeji.pSocial Media: @thechampagency Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melissa are you a doctor uh I want to be but I'm not I'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and we're not experts at anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. It's April at long last. This is the month of spring. At long last. At this current moment for us. It's not unfortunate.

We are recording a little bit early so we're in the same outfit as last week. Why are we recording early? We've got lots going on. I'm going away. Sophie's on tour. I'm on tour. You know what I'm going to go and get on tour i'm on tour you know what i'm gonna go and get done what these things on tiktok my algorithm is so fucking weird like these professional ear clean wax people come up on my my tiktok and i'm like no i've never had a problem with earwax i'm not a waxy person and i've never had a problem with like not being able to hear

but i know you get it done every year i remember you saying like yep get it done everywhere i like to be really clean i'm gonna go and do it there's someone down the road for me i'm gonna go there's one on on king's road it's unbelievable you're going for five minutes boom is it with a candle no that's a like a holistic one this is just like they like just literally scoop it out they like have a sucker it's unbelievable and they show you it all on a camera and also they've got blackhead poppers with a camera bought them too

but obviously they haven't opened the packaging because again Skelton sorry I know when we go for dinner

tomorrow night can I please come and have a look at the blackhead scooper first sure that something about him Hayfever's wife

that's what I will say Hayfever's starting it's not starting for me yet well what happens is like the nose is kind of okay but it's the eyes just are like you want to close them i can't explain it they dry and they're like just very dry they dry and they're wet they're like just damp all the time i know eyes are meant to be wet but like they just feel a bit like soggy all the time yours always are a bit wet mine for some reason summer and fall winter is fine it's when we're coming into the it's the temperature of around

between like eight and ten degrees they stream and it's so weird when it's freezing cold they never do and when it's summer they never do it's like the in between how interesting i don't know what it is and i've asked people about it and they all just say it's the change of season your eyes are adjusting to and then they get dry because it's that in between yeah because mine is almost like when we start putting like the fan on in our room they get dry and like stingy anyway hay fever does do like really does me dirty every single year i really can't bear it i'm hoping this year will be different i'm holding our hope we should be having local honey you're so right and i need to try hoping this year will be different. I'm holding out hope. We should be having local honey. You're so right and I need to try that this year.

I do have bee pollen. You're meant to be doing it like two months before the hay fever season. Okay, well now. Start now. Start now. Summer prep, boom!

So we're just really excited basically to just be mincing around in our like cycling shorts rather than leggings. Get me those bare legs. That English London summer breeze

and that like petrally smell in the air just love it a bit clanky always love it you're a bit dirty and sweaty at all times

it's a bit humid and you always feel like there's a little bit of like pollution on your skin and I just love it I love every second of it love every second of it your face

we walk around in a cap everywhere because of sun protection but also because we never wear makeup and I always look kind of rough and we've always got

greasy hair but you also don't because it's summer and we're in just like baggy top and like cycling shorts and socks and trainers we're just the Burke

the Birkenstock days of not wearing any socks oh my god and the little ankle bracelet no I actually guys when I say I'm such a summer girl to the point where like

what basically what happens is my whole life I just I get myself through for summer prepared for summer I hate everyday music me too

I'm like I'm just like just picture summer and like I wake up in the morning I just envision it to get myself out of bed because otherwise

I'd just lie in bed like I don't like winter Christmas is alright there's certain months I really enjoy I hate January and February I don't me too

there's no point in January and February why don't we just scrap Jan and Feb why don't we just like those people Feb? Why don't we just like those people who can move away they've got it right. I know. I know. I know. But basically

we've come through this month and you will see such I'm so happy every day. I wake up full of joy in summer. Me too. Philippines. Also I'm a miserable girl in winter you know. You know what coming up in summer it's obviously Glastonbury. Sophie and Jamie are going and Jamie says that he'll get me a ticket every year and he never does. So we're going to hold him to it this year.

This year we're all going to go together and I can't throw it away. Under pressure. Can you hit him under pressure? Under pressure. You know who's playing? Yeah. Avril Lavigne, who we thought was dead. She's going to be up there.

She's never been dead, you nonce. Yeah, she was. You nonce is a paedophile. Oof. Take that back. You, you, why can't I think of an insult? You idiot. Right, so we're going to go to Glastonbury together.

We're going to have a really good time. Melissa and I are going to go on a trip, just us two. We're going to go to Paris. Yeah. I'm envisioning Paris. Me too, me too. I found a hotel that we can stay in already. I know one in my head.

Great. That has a lovely view. Great. We're going to go and take some nice content, go and have some nice lunch already. I know one in my head. Great. That has a lovely view. Great. We're going to go and take some nice content, go and have some nice lunches. Maybe go and buy robes. Gorgeous. Maybe we do some shopping.

Gorgeous lunches. Basically food we need to book Lulu's in advance. I know. There's so many places. You can't really get into any restaurants in Paris at the moment. They're being so snobby and weird about it unless you've been before. Whoa, fucking hell.

Great. We're going to Paris great we're going to Paris and we're going to turn away at the door not just the two of us not just the two of us which is really weird really bad form actually

really weird of us you know what it is it's like when you see someone every day you sort of forget about doing shit like that we need to make more of an effort

we need to make more of an effort also Sophie and I see each other maybe three times a week and we never take photos of it we're one of those people

friends that are really bad so it's almost like there's just zero evidence for spending time together other than doing this a week and we never take photos of it. We're one of those people, friends that are really bad. So it's almost like there's just zero evidence for spending time together other than doing this. I know. It's weird, isn't it? It's weird because we see each other the most but we have no photos together. Okay, right.

We've got some gorgeous feedback from you lovely listeners. You all really like the Pippa Campbell episode. Pippa's Greek is just such a helpful, amazing song. Although quite a few of my friends were a bit like, I am so scared now because I'm on the pill But I was like look you need to get that information in Yeah I think it's good just knowing all the information If you're okay with it then great

If you're not then you know maybe think about What you can do to change it Okay so I'm going to read some out So we got thank you for the Pippa episode It felt like a whole revelation I'm eating a cauliflower and kale salad right now And trying to avoid plastic because my symptoms were matching. That's from Alex.

Well done, Alex. Round of applause. See, it's actually much easier. You don't have to spin the whole world around. You just slowly do some things. Collie rice. Delicious. Okay, this is from Gabriella.

As someone who suffers from PCOS, thank you. Okay, that's great. Polycystic ovaries. Polycystic ovaries. How do you know if you've got that? Symptoms. Symptoms. And then I guess if you test,

maybe you should really want to confirm it. But yeah, you can test. Another amazing episode. How amazing is Pippa? All the symptoms you were talking about. Low mood, shattered, no energy, brain fog. It all makes sense. Thank you so much.

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sister to be about Hi girls I never thought I'd write in but I want to get your opinion on something that's happened to me. My boyfriend of almost three years went on a lad's night out. I thought nothing of it, as I've never been given any reason to be paranoid, as he's never betrayed my trust in the past.

Everything was fine when he came back, but I was scrolling on his iPad and found some messages between him and another girl, which he'd obviously deleted the messages already off his phone. Fuck. They were quite flirty in tone, with him asking where she was staying and the messages already off his phone. Fuck. They were quite flirty in tone with him asking where she was staying and going to on their night out and maybe feel even more upset as he'd ignored me the whole night. I wasn't bothered at the time but now

I feel so naive. I left his house straight away after seeing the messages and then called his mates. They backed him and said that it was the girl who fancied him and that my boyfriend didn't do anything apart from give him his number. I texted the girl and she said he was very flirty and she has no idea he had a girlfriend. It's been a few weeks now and he has said, sorry, but I'm not sure I can get over it. It's the first step of cheating, is that? Yeah.

I know myself, I can't get over stuff like that. I would be crazy and I would think about it every day. And then it would just make me eventually hate him. It's so hard, though, because in these sorts of scenarios, your love is still there 100%. It doesn't make you fall out of love with them. So you're like, fuck, I'm going to take this one thing that's happened that's a serious portrayal and potentially,

it's like if he was not to get caught, would he then just the next time and actually take that step further but you've caught him so that's a good thing i would think firstly you either break up with him if you can't go over it like melissa i don't know what i would do in that situation or if you are going to try and get over it i would give yourself like a whole year to get over it like your trust will be gone for six months that's just how it goes like if you do decide to stay with him and he like tries to regain your trust you just need to be prepared that you're going to hate him for a long time i'm also just like in my mind i'm like obviously he loves you but he obviously feels a certain type

of way towards this person because he's ignoring you and messaging her when you're his girlfriend he knows it's wrong he knows he's wrong that's really shit he also knows what the outcome of this is going to eventually be with this girl in my mind he wants to sleep with her okay so in my mind he was probably just flirting he's flirting with then giving a number and then messaging her again all night yeah it's really weird you're looking there's something further there's a further agenda

but if he wanted to sleep with her he would have slept with her that's what I would have thought maybe he's just testing but to me but that's the thing boys do these things for validation

to me shagging someone and texting someone are the same fucking thing like I don't see much difference I know like they're doing it for a reason

and it's all inappropriate and it's all outrageous you have to decide if you want to stay with him in your mind it's easier to get over this than it is for him shagging her but in his mind to me it was all for the same reason it was all for the same thing i also think a good thing to think about is like put yourself in his shoes if you could physically yeah do that to him and you're like there's no way i love him so much i wouldn't even want to reply to someone else especially seeing your messages coming through that's what he's choosing to ignore them and then messaging this other person if you're like i could do that to him

to me i'm like is there a lack of feeling from him because i'm like the validation thing is one thing but then why ignore the girlfriend because that's validation you're getting already from your girlfriend something's not right i think maybe it sounds like this is oh this is horrible to me if this was me i would think it's the beginning of the end in his mind and he can't quite bear that so he's making these other little movements because he can't bear to face the fact that it maybe is in his mind coming to the end of the relationship you deserve so much fucking so much better don't let this give you a trust issue if it was me i would be like look if you really want to forgive him and you want to get over it fine but in my

mind i'd always just kind of think is that the beginning of the end it's really down to you and him and like what happens now but like it is a thousand percent a dumpable offense like there's no two ways about it boys always have each other's backs do not believe what the boys say also like regardless you've seen in black and white he's asking her where she's staying where she's going next. They just met. Why does he want to know that? That is a dumpable offence. Like, it's not right. I'm really sorry.

We just, like, hope that you're okay. It doesn't happen. We support you, whatever you decide to do, but you just need to know that. Remember your self-worth and, like, don't let him gaslight you and, like, make you think that it's okay what he's done because it's so not okay. I was just messaging her.

I was so stupid. I was so drunk. I didn't know what i was doing yeah fuck off you knew enough to ignore my messages yeah listen i've taken back someone who was messaging another girl didn't work out well for me i feel like this sort of thing isn't uncommon i don't think it's uncommon i also think with these things you should keep it really private if you are going to take him back i don't know it's tough you need to you are going to take him back, I don't know. It's tough. You do need to speak to someone about it. Yeah, you need to speak to somebody about it. I think you've really got to sit with it. And, like, his actions now will speak louder than that.

Like, you will know. Firstly, do not be naive. Because there's no two ways about it. He has done wrong, and it's a dumpable offence. It's how he makes up to it. And, like, it might take six, seven months of him proving his trust back but if he's gonna gas like you walk out the door i agree like when boys just aren't exactly like you'll never get then then he's gonna do it again and again and again if he holds his hand back i really fucked up i love you so much and i'm gonna do everything i can to gain your

trust back that is very different to him being like I didn't do anything wrong she was flirting me I'd be out the door yeah he's twisting it all around I also think I don't necessarily believe there's always such thing as a harmless flirt sometimes there is flirting is something one thing and that that is actually like you definitely have a right to be fucked off. Some people might dump someone for doing that. But to then give you their number and exchange numbers is a step further. And then to actually message

and then ask, there's like so many bad things that have gone on. Do you know what I mean? It's not just a one thing. It's a clear-cut dumpable event. Very rarely a guy has approached me

whilst I've been in a relationship because I do not give off that energy to come and talk to me. It's the same thing. I'm like, I don't think I give off that energy at all. I've never been a relationship because I do not give off that energy to come and talk to me it's the same thing I'm like I'd never I don't think I give off that energy at all I've never been approached

by anyone like I don't think yeah no you've got an enormous rock on your finger so hopefully that would be enough of a signal to a guy to be like

she's married but I do think it's also an energy thing you're so right like if you're looking around and like making eye contact with people I'm very different

when I'm single to when I'm in a relationship oh my god me too like I do think that that in itself like would piss me off i'd be like why did she think it was okay to talk to you and flirt with you in the first place it should be an automatic so funny my friend always just goes the moment anyone speaks she's like i've got my friend i love that i love when people are like that i'm like let's just be really honest here like don't bother speaking to me like i've got i've got a partner and you're three years there's just no really honest here. Like, don't bother speaking to me. I've got a partner. And you're three years. There's just no, just no.

But also saying, where are you going next to the club? No! No! No. They don't know each other. Why the hell are you giving her your number? What are you asking? You're not friends.

You don't want to go and party with them. You want... To get with her, probably. I don't know about sleeping. You need to be really honest with yourself and have hard conversations with yourself about what this actually means and what he was wanting to do it's tough and very easy to just to convince yourself it's another thing do you know what I mean I agree and it says a lot about him if he's gonna just part it off as nothing can you please

tell us what happens and what you do decide to do because ultimately we're going to support you either way. I have been single for a while and now I am over my past long-term relationship. I started using dating apps. I went on a date with this one guy who brought up his ex on the first date. The jealous part of me thought it was a red flag because I don't want to be talking about exes especially on a first date. I want to have a good time and get to know him not their past my best friend says it's childish to me to have this reaction because maybe it's me being insecure but on a first date i don't want to feel like this guy is thinking about his ex and i'm just there as a distraction yeah how do i learn to date guys short term and long term and be okay with talking about exes i just don't think they should i'm with. Sometimes you do have to talk about your ex on the first date. I think it's kind of fine to establish when the last relationship was,

just so you kind of know where the date's at. I want to date with this guy. Deep diving into the relationship is maybe unnecessary. I think establishing, yeah, my last relationship was like, it was like two years and then we broke up seven months ago. Didn't work out because, you know, we just grew just grew apart fine i think you're sort of establishing a baseline like how ready they are to like yeah date you whereas if someone was like five year relationship we broke up two weeks ago very different you need to know that information by grinding i'd be like okay i'm

i feel like i'm learning stuff about toby's last relationship even now yeah like that's something that you just slowly uncover through the time of being together talk about your ex with your it's all good to talk about your ex I mean he should know that I think what Melissa said is so fine and that's normal it'd be weird if you didn't say I was in a four-year relationship or two-year relationship or one-year relationship yeah and I think it's weird but then you brought you move over that you move over it or it establishes like if you're just being really honest with someone like I'm not looking like I'm trying to get back into dating to distract myself I'm kind of getting over my last relationship quite heartbroken when me and Toby were in a breakup like I was quite

honest with people about that I was like we broke up literally two weeks ago I'm trying to distract myself I'm still not really over it but I want to have some fun yeah and I'm trying to get back into dating do you know what I mean and then then maybe they would be like but maybe they're just not the right people for you what happened why did you break up I would then be honest and tell them but like that's obviously because it's a short-term thing you're letting the other person know like this really isn't going to go anywhere far I'm heartbroken and that's why we're dating so sometimes it's good to establish that and if you're not honest and you're dating someone who this guy could lie and be like not even bring up

the fact that you even had an ex-girlfriend then you'd be annoyed because you'd be like fuck I didn't realize when you broke up two weeks ago now I clearly am the rebound my advice you would be like just don't date those guys like if they are the people who are like Melissa said who are like I've just broken up I'm not looking they, they're just not the ones for you. You don't want someone who... You're not looking for that. There are plenty of guys who have not just broken up

with someone and who are not thinking of their ex. And not obsessing over them still. But I personally would not, that would put me off. Totally. I'd be like,

you're not the one for me. You clearly still love your ex. Yeah, I don't like that. I'd like to ask Jamie about his ex, but if he brought up his ex with me, I'd be like, are you okay?

Really? And I'm fine if Jamie brings up his ex. but if he brought up his ex with me, I'd be like, are you okay? Really? And I'm fine if Jamie brings up his ex? No, now I am. I'm married. But like when we first dated, if he was like yapping away about his ex, I'd be like, it put me off. I'd get the ick.

I'd be like, ugh, bye. Yeah, no, no, because then it seems like you're still in love with him. Because you're still in that stage where you're like, you're not that comfortable. You're like flirty times, then. Oh my God, 100%. You want all their attention on you

like now i'm quite fascinated by his past relationships but it's very difficult comes a time when you want to learn about it because you want to understand them and you want to understand their past and you want to understand what went wrong and i'm really fascinated by toby's past i could ask you i need to know everything it helped me understand toby but then also made me think that there's so much about him that I clearly don't know. But then he was also very young. I was like, you must have, in my mind, to do those things that he did. What did he do?

There were certain things that he would be very forgiving. Not forgiving in the sense that someone had fucked up and it's not like that. It would be like the lifestyle choice and the things that were going on at that time I think in his ex's life he was quite okay with which shocked me and I was like god you must have really loved her to have been okay with that it's like he just didn't care it's like if he cheated on him he'd just like whatever like he didn't really see a future with it no I think he always said that

but I think that when we're younger we do kind of think in the back of our mind we have short term things right so like

my last relationship I always knew I wasn't going to marry him I always used to say that to you but like I was happy in the moment

she used to just be like I don't want to get married and I used to be like that's weird but like I was happy in the moment so I was like there's no point in me you You were like I want a ring but I'm not gonna get married. Yeah. Rav lav rav rav. But I do agree I think bringing it up on a first date. Not on a first date though. It's about having fun. I think it's fine if you establish

where your ex is like where that relationship ended and where you're at now. Great. Let's have a little bit of background. Let's talk about your family. Let's talk about your job. Whatever. Yeah fine. That's fine. It's a big part of bit of background. Let's talk about your family. Let's talk about your job. Whatever. Yeah, fine. That's fine. It's a big part of someone's life. It's got to be like a 30-second thing. Imagine if he was like,

I'm actually divorced and I've got three kids. I mean, you need to know that information. Do you know what I mean? Before you get into the next day. Damn straight. So I think it's so fine. I think you are a little bit in your own head if they bring up their ex

and want to discuss it a tiny bit. That's totally normal. Sometimes it's, someone needs to talk to someone about it. But I know someone who recently went on a few dates with another one of my friend and she was like just non-stop talking about the ex yeah i know people who've done that like shut up about your ex and i also was like thinking it's the one in my head i knew which one it was and she was like oh no no it was the one before that i was like jesus christ no it's honestly so i personally

think it's so so weird right no go topics on a first date talking about how big of a night out you have okay right i'll tell you i like a bit of family chat but like don't yap on about your family you've never met for so long i'd be like okay nice to establish like parents still together stepmom whatever like you know when they're like should i see a photo of my dad? I'm like, not really. Or you're like, my nephew, look how cute he is

and you're like, I don't know him. Yeah. A dog. Do not show me a photo of your dog. I will be out the door within five minutes.

Unless, unless, unless it's to hand or it's in the background. Fine. We get to establish what kind of a dog it is. Oh my God, I'll tell you something

that's really good on a fast date. Personally, but my love language is physical touch. Like, I can't it when like a boy doesn't touch me i'm like are we just pals then just touch me somewhere pat my back have a hand on me at all times i can't bear i love the distance tactile person same and you know what i like when you're walking from maybe one bar to the next put your arm around around me. Yeah. Just fucking be confident. Even if I don't fancy you, that'll make me fancy you.

Yeah, yeah. It's like the moves actually make such a difference. I think it's like just being overly confident in that respect. Be close. If they don't touch me and it's like end of the day, I literally would be like, even if he was the fittest boy and he was so cool, I'd be like, I do not fancy him.

That feels, no. I just couldn't. But they could be like not my type and they give me so much touch and I'm like well I can't even see him it's weird isn't it yeah tactile it's the best thing

in the world I also think something that's quite important element of being like polite I don't really need someone

constantly to like hold the fucking door open for me that's just I think politeness like girls and boys should do that for each other

but um check if I get home alright yeah I think that's just like a quite a nice standard thing oh I would be upset

can you let me know when you get home please great put me in the car home put me in the car home make sure I'm in the car home safe because you know

it's dangerous and then message me when you're home I think that's a lovely little nice touch and even if they don't want to like date you again

just message you and be like did you get home okay had a sweet evening I once went on a date with a guy and like he actually was the best date it was such an amazing i didn't fancy him but he was so good it was so wonderful the day like the drinks were amazing everything he gave he paid for my taxi

like he insisted real gentleman like he walked me to my taxi and by the way i literally went half an hour i was like going out and he put me in the car and he like got cash out on paper and i was obviously like you really don't need to do this but and then like text me loads when i got it's so sweet and i just remember thinking like you aren't the guy for me but like you are a wonderful person yeah you'll be a great catch good good good manners great banners that's it like oh i've got the biggest one if a boy has to be polite to the waitresses, the people who work in the restaurant, like, if they are not polite to them, I'm done.

Oh, no, that's such an ick. If they don't open the door for, like, the woman behind them coming in or the man, like... Basic manners is important. The manners are so important. I can't bear that shit. Mm-hmm. So, dilemma three, ladies and gentlemen.

Me and my boyfriend have been together for almost three years we first met on a night out in london and came into and he came into my life after a really horrible previous relationship after 18 months together i met his family my boyfriend said he wanted to wait until we were really serious before he introduced me to them this is a bloody long time to wait really long and where last summer I went on their family holiday and also met my boyfriend's oldest brother and sister. One night, my boyfriend and I had an argument and he said he needed some space. I went on a walk down to the beach and his brother followed me down.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What? We had a really good conversation. I aired out what happened during our argument. Oh, no. During the chat, I noticed he was getting close to me.

There was a moment where I looked up noticed he was getting close to me. There was a moment where I looked up and he was just staring at me. I felt awkward. And I ended the conversation saying I needed to go to bed. No. My boyfriend and I then flew back to the UK for our scene at Mormon.

I've got goosebumps up my arms. Same. Also, why do I kind of like this? I'm re-watching Vampire Diaries. The whole brother thing is really a vibe. I'm thinking about that. It feels like I'm in some sexy, sexy movie. And I'm picturing the...

It's also just him getting close and staring. Yes! And the fit. No, we're terrible. Right, I didn't tell my boyfriend what happened and decided to forget about it. I was invited to spend the weekend with his family and at the dinner, I got sat next to his brother.

Over the course of the meal, he was putting his hands on my thigh and I tried to ignore it. I'm sorry. No, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys this is so bad this is so bad but also really every time you go for christmas you're gonna get two for the price of one i'm joking no it's so bad corridor creeping is gonna be taking place in that family right i got that nose rather over the course of the meal he was putting his hand on my thigh.

I tried to ignore it. Well, he didn't do a very good job of it. He could have just passed it away. Just tried to ignore it, giving the wrong impression. That same night, I had a bit too much drink

and started chatting to him again once my boyfriend had gone to bed. You like it. You like it. Because why have you not gone to bed to with a boyfriend? Let me tell you, if I was free to,

I'd be like, don't leave my fucking side to my boyfriend. Like, you're creeping all about that I don't know how I would approach that like if Toby's brother was I mean

I would literally have to tell Jamie straight away I mean obviously no but then I almost don't think Toby would believe me and then it would

just break me and him up he would literally be like you're lying I don't believe you yeah you're so right it's really awkward you're like don't be so fucking crazy

that was in your head literally he would say that I'm mental I'm sure of it that same night i had a bit too much drink and we started chatting again once my boyfriend had gone to bed also things got a bit out of hand and we kissed i'm sorry how have we gone what why is your boyfriend going to bed without you like i'm gonna leave you downstairs also jamie always get you like I'm going to leave you downstairs also Jamie always goes to bed with his family we always go to bed together what also need to know

is the older brother quite fit I know I'm feeling that he is because she clearly kissed him since then I can't stop thinking about my boyfriend's brother

and I need your opinion I still love my boyfriend but I think I might have some feelings for his brother well they share the same DNA so I don't blame you hun there's definitely a family resemblance

isn't there do I tell him what happened or just try to forget it and do you think his brother's in the wrong for what he did? There is no way out of this whole thing you've completely if I'm honest you've fucked it completely. Yeah let's call a spade a spade. I'm not sure if you're

going to be able to ever date the brother unless you guys really fall in love and there's this undeniable connection and you're willing to basically break up the family but I feel like the brother is a sneaky snake then your boyfriend i mean you've cheated on him for a start you've cheated on him with his brother so that's whilst he's in the room upstairs i think there's no way out of this no way out of this either you live with a lie that could potentially come up because the brother might speak up which is probably gonna happen right what would we do because you and your boyfriend are done

you've cheated on him with his brother so your only hope is you're either out the door and out the family or you're going to have to try and get

with the brother and hope that the younger one just forgives and it's all alright and the whole family still thinks you're an okay same person

no no no it's not worth it it's not worth it you've really done something bad here I'm not going to tell you it's okay when it's not we have to learn lessons and I know it happens in the movies I know bad here. I'm not going to tell you it's okay when it's not. We have to learn lessons now.

And I know it happens in the movies. I know it happens in Vampire Diaries. And I know it happens in The Sunrise of Time Pretty. And I know we're glamorizing it and saying it would probably be quite hot. But it's really not okay. And what's that other one that I watched recently with the young people in it? And it's like The Walter Boys. I somehow caught Time Pretty.

That one and The Walter Boys. She also goes for Two Brothers. You're playing a dangerous, dangerous game. And you know what? It's not worth it. Younger brother might be okay with it. As in, like, if you break it off and it goes a few months and then you, like, then reach out to the older brother

and you're like, look, I can't stop thinking about you. Can we meet up? That's all the older brother doesn't really like. He just wants what his younger brother's got. But you never know. I mean, the right thing to do would just be break up and leave the family alone like i don't think you're gonna marry either of them and i think you're just gonna cause a real

rift between the brothers i just think that ultimately you're not gonna be a good girlfriend to the younger brother so just let him move on and just try and make it work the odd one because he's clearly as sneaky as you are yeah you've been a bad bad girl it's a naughty thing but i'm kind of envious like i've always kind of wanted to have that with two brothers you've lived out my fantasy i can think of anything more sketchy i would be so anxious about it yeah right i agree with you like in a fantasy world it's great if you if you had a film camera in front of you and it was like make believe it'd be a great storyline but real life i would not be sleeping with that going over my head hey listen getting back into bed and being like oh just got with your brother and I know it's god I also kind of want to know did you

then sleep with your boyfriend after who's a better kisser that's I want to know one of my one of my best girlfriends she's got seven her mum I think there's like seven of them so like she's got seven aunties and uncles like her mum's like got like five sisters and three of them all dated the same guy not at the same time but like alternative and he's now married to one of them and it's always like a joke with their family that like he's dated all the sisters and it's like so fine no one was pissed each other off anything that's hilarious there was no crossovers though no one kissed each other when they were downstairs that whole thing is really really really messy toby's both his brothers are gorgeous, so it's a lovely bit of eye candy

when I go around there for Sunday lunch. Jamie always thinks I'm literally in love with his younger brother, George, because he's so gorgeous, but I always say it. He is so gorgeous. He's so gorgeous. But you can get away with saying that

because he's younger. Because he's younger. He's literally 18, so obviously I'm not. But I honestly say to Jamie, I'm like, the best thing about my eight years is that I'm closer to George and he's like okay I'm trying to think does anyone have that where they're like yeah with your you're probably you're in the most what because everyone fancies

Toby no because your brother his brother's really handsome too aren't they yeah yeah Toby's like one of three really gorgeous boys they that all like very good looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lovely, lovely family. I do feel like if my brother was older than me, he would definitely be

sleeping with one of my friends at a certain time. Like that would definitely happen. It could still happen. It was still on the cusp of happening at a certain point but now all my friends

are boyfriends. I feel like if there was right house parties crossing over at the right time because we were all at school together, like that definitely probably would have happened. But you would have been fine with it

because it's like younger, don't you think? And your friend? I don't know what it is. I'm like fine with it as long as like no one gets hurt and like it's not awkward for me. I don't really care. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Hi, Sophie and Melissa. As someone in their late 30s, I'm probably one of your older listeners, but I just wanted to say to everyone out there that it's never too late to start again. I was very settled in a five-year relationship. We were engaged, owned a house together, but I wasn't entirely happy.

I was too scared to admit this to anybody because I was scared starting again at almost 40. I kind of accepted that I would remain in an unhappy relationship for the rest of my life. After hearing empowering stories on your podcast, I decided to open up to my friends and family about how I was feeling. I felt instant relief. Yeah, the best feeling. I moved back home, reconnected with my friends, made more time for my family, got a promotion at work and could finally say that I feel like me again. Yes. This deserves a round of applause. Goosebumps.

I have recently been back in touch with a guy that I met in secondary school. Hello. We both had huge crushes on each other, but never told each other how we felt at the time. Around seven years ago, we bumped into each other. There was instant chemistry and we dated for six months or so. I fell so in love. We were at different stages of our lives. I knew we couldn't be together. So our relationship came to an end. We didn't speak for a long time, but I found out recently that he had been holding a torch for me for all these years and that he thought he'd lost

me forever when he found out I was engaged to somebody else. After my breakup, I reconnected with him. We met up and found that we were finally on the same page and we discovered that our chemistry and connection was still there. It's more intense and appreciated than ever before we are now in a relationship madly in love planning an exciting future together i wanted to say that if you are in a relationship that doesn't feel right that there is so much out there for all for us all don't waste time speak up be brave and most importantly always follow your heart i love you so much whatever you said that's what we say i honestly think that's the best story we've ever fucking had that melissa's actually got tears so many people would just sit settle and do that and you know they'd probably then

get divorced when they're like 50 or something and just be like i just had a fucking miserable time a lot of people in their second marriage are like, I'm alive. Really inspiring. I'm overwhelmed. I'm so happy. It's really inspiring. Guys,

please people, listen to that. Fancy things to take away from that. Follow your heart. Be true to yourself. And age is just a number. And a problem shared is a problem halved,

like we always say. Damn straight. Because you speaking to your friends and family and you saying it out loud has just been like, oh, you know you know what actually that doesn't feel as overwhelming now and like it's fine for me to do you're never alone an amazing story as well that he like held the torch for her i know i'm fucking love that right guys on that note we love you

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