Wednesdays - 3: My Best Friend's Boyfriend is A CHEAT

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

Hello lovely listeners, Melissa and Sophie are back this week for a good old chat. The girls talk all things Hailey Bieber, Massimo Dutti, Sienna Miller and so much more. PLUS, we have some ...juicy dilemmas for you - from your friend’s boyfriend cheating with a work colleague to outgrowing a friendship. Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer & Editor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @emzchampionAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:14 psychologists and we're not experts in anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help We love giving you guys advice, but as we said... We love giving you guys advice. Do not take what we're saying as gospel. If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. Hey, friends. Hey, guys. I have a brain in my hand, but I just can't stop playing with it.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Is that what that is? Yeah. It looks also like a testicle. Ew, the thought of it being a testicle is through me. Thank you so much, Jemima. I've made an error. This looks absolutely phenomenal. No, that does look milky, thank you. This couldn't be milkier if I tried. This is definitely decaf, yes, thank you. Thank you, decaf girl. My biggest fear is now, you know how you do the whole cappuccino after a dinner with your fam? Yeah. Why are you getting decaf? Coffee doesn't even fit. Because I've already had
Starting point is 00:02:03 a coffee today and I don't want to dehydrate myself. But I've already, do you know what I mean? Anyway, I started going for like the post-meal cappuccino. And I always get decaf, obviously. Because it's just such a nice. I know it's a lovely way to just round it off rather than dessert. Stop me having dessert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Because I always am a bit like, really, did I need that treacle tart? I know, I know. But you need something. You need something. The coffee just does that for you. And it's so like it's the milky it's just lovely isn't it
Starting point is 00:02:27 but I always panic I'm like I get this weird paranoia in my head and I'm like they want to fuck me and they put caffeine in it I know
Starting point is 00:02:33 I literally am like is it decaffeinated yeah but I just think if I was the waitress at 9pm at night I'd be like oh shut up I'll just do the normal stuff
Starting point is 00:02:41 fuck off oh fuck off no I have to tell you something so we read this how was Mason Estelle as well oh it was lovely was it
Starting point is 00:02:49 it was like loads of Olly Locks running around I know exactly what you mean just like lovely posh people Olly will appreciate that
Starting point is 00:02:57 but honestly I was like this face is like Olly Lock on steroids wow but anyway I um we were doing
Starting point is 00:03:04 Neely Reds yesterday and this girl wrote in I have to tell you this so she's first like never done well but anyway I um we were doing newlyweds yesterday and this girl wrote in I have to tell you this so she's first like never done dirty talk or whatever
Starting point is 00:03:11 and she starts doing it she gets really into it and she goes fuck my dick I just can't imagine me doing it in real life and the guy's with her
Starting point is 00:03:21 yeah and he had to stop he was like no I really don't like that oh my god obviously she was really getting into it like like going for it In real life? And the guy's with her? Yeah, and he had to stop. He was like, no, I really don't like that. Oh my God, obviously. He was really getting into it, like going for it. That's given me PTSD. I'm never going to be found.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I'm not a dirt school girl. You know me. Fuck my dick. I always get my words rumbled up. I resonated so much because if I ever were to do it, I'd end up saying, fuck my dick. Guys, before just now, what were we saying? And you said the complete wrong word. Oh, that was on air
Starting point is 00:03:45 That was like two minutes ago What What did you just say No we were talking About the coffee That is actually The nicest thing I've ever done
Starting point is 00:03:52 Is it I'm really upset You know what It's because it's got That oat milk It must ask What that oat milk is It's not oatly
Starting point is 00:03:56 It will be It 100% will be Do you think I'm like Just gonna be like Full of oat Because I don't think It's so good The amount I eat
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah no it's not good the amount I eat? No, it's not. It's rapeseed oil. It's poison. Poison for the brain. Poison. It's inflammation. Your whole body's inflamed.
Starting point is 00:04:13 It's around my life. My whole body. You know, the other day, you're going to be so upset with this. On the way back from Raising Salad, I was gasping for chocolate. Which one did you have? No. I went to a gas station. They only had, I was like, have to eat dark chocolate no bourneville dark chocolate i may as well got cabris where was cabris but it's not even healthy i ate the whole family was not nice it was nice
Starting point is 00:04:36 i love a cabris chocolate but nothing like cabris chocolate for me i just love a dark chocolate oh my god the best chocolate buttons i had recently are the m&s chocolate buttons anyone's had them you know what i'm talking about it like sophie i don't know what it is it's like they're so creamy they're so milky they're just wonderful m&s chocolate m&s biscuits are yeah it's all underrated all the m&s snacks all of those things in the boxes oh my god what are your favorites the the marmite and Cheese scone things. Have you ever had that? No.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They are outrageous. A savoury Marmite and Cheese scone. I like the little cheese bits wrapped in parma ham. The vegan's out of the picture. I know, I know, I know, I know exactly. The manchego cheese wrapped in parma ham. Yeah. Stunning.
Starting point is 00:05:18 What other things? There's so many. I mean, I'm partial to a Scotch egg. The sausage roll. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Bramley Merley pork pies. Is that what they're called? Bramley Merley, am I saying?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Bromley apple. Bromley something. It's something. No, it's from a specific part up north. And it's the original place where the pork pies come from. They come in a little pack or two. What are they called? I just...
Starting point is 00:05:39 Melbury. Yes. Melted mulberry. Melted mulberry. Melted mulberry. What was such like knowledge so Toby knew that too
Starting point is 00:05:47 he was like how are you getting this so wrong never heard of it I was like I've never heard of it I would have thought of molten brown
Starting point is 00:05:51 but that's a joke that's a joke anyway yeah M&S is a little cocktail sausage you know what we should do next episode we should have a little
Starting point is 00:06:00 like midnight M&S snacks we should have a picnic snack let's do it around lunchtime and then have our lunch on a M&S if. We should have a picnic snack. Let's do it around lunchtime and then have our lunch on air. And then M&S if you want to sponsor us, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Oh my God, that would be my life. God, I also just really like the M&S. You know, like the French fry chips. Why am I like smoking them? French fry chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the crisps. They're crisps. But they're like French fries.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, they are so good. Just quick question. What is your favorite chip? As in Chris. Why am I calling them American? What's going on? I think I'm going to be really boring and just say the cheesy hippies.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I don't know what it is. I find it so... No, or a Twiglet or a pretzel. Twiglet is a Sarah Wigley and very, very, very rogue Marmite Crunch. I love Marmite Crunch. Mine would be, this is also really rogue, a Pom Bear.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Really? I wouldn't strike you, a Pom Bear. Really? I wouldn't strike you as a Pom Bear. Okay, also, I'm not going to lie, it's just a ready salted walker. I know. That is my vanilla.
Starting point is 00:06:52 What was that thing you asked me the other day? Oh, what's our beige flag? That's my beige flag. My favourite Christmas is a ready salted... Yeah, that is quite a beige flag, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:00 it's a classic. I've not seen much of the Hailey Bieber recently. I have. She recently has been accused of blurring her face in all of her videos. You know, we all think her skin's beautiful and perfect. That it like glitched and then you could see that she had texture and pores, which was still beautiful skin, but it was like, okay, well this is actually more realistic for everyone to like look at.
Starting point is 00:07:24 God, it's a tough gig being a slab isn't it it's a tough gig like but she's got you know her her lip stuff and yeah i agree that's kind of hard it's hard because she does skincare so people are like you're kind of it's i also do think her skin is unbelievable but i just think in certain nights things look different so like she always obviously films in the best light as you would like we do like we're sat here with podcasts we've got this stunning light that makes us look really good sometimes we don't sometimes we don't look as good i love it how we're judging people i'm like we're sat here doing the exact same thing and i'm also like put this blur filter on us please i know can we actually get that i would love the blurry filter most of our bloggers have the blurry
Starting point is 00:08:01 filter i know i don't think there's anything wrong with it. I don't. Live your life. Things we're loving. Okay. Sophie's loving all sorts at the moment. I've like recently gone to Massimo Duty. I got this gorgeous leather jacket from them. Shut up. Not the leather trench. No.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I did get the black. Oh, because I've got that. I got the black leather trench in the mini version too. I got the black leather trench. Wait, did you get it in black? Yes. Black leather trench. Long.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And then I got the black leather blazer. But I got them ages ago, to be fair, when I was in New York with my parents. So maybe they're still... I got them like a month ago. Wait. Fuck. Wait, this is really weird because neither of us shop at Massimo Dutti. I'm crying.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's the first thing I've ever bought from there. Same. And then I got this. I'm really confused. That's stupid. Like, what drew you to go there? I was in space with my sister's wedding and I walked past it and I was like, love. I was in New York and it was just like one of past it and I was like love. I was in New Yorker and it was just like
Starting point is 00:08:45 one of those shots my mum always goes into. That? That's so weird. This is when me and Sophie have telepathic like wavelengths. Because it probably would have been around
Starting point is 00:08:53 the same time. Spook. Fuck. No, are we going to come in in the same time? That's so weird. It's such a gorgeous and such reasonable variety.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I know and they have a khaki green one too. I mean that's what I thought you'd got for some reason. I pictured you getting you getting I was contemplating it but I was like I'm just it's just not as classic yeah this one will never be as time yeah yeah okay so we're just gonna talk about fashion just a brief one because I feel like it's a must we need to cover yeah I'm not gonna lie I've not been that involved in it I haven't gone to any oh my god neither but we haven't been in the involved in it. I haven't gone to any shows.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh my God, neither. But we haven't been in the last, however many years, we haven't been in a long time. Do you remember when you used to go to Paul Chrisella? No. And Rixo. No, I never did the Rixo,
Starting point is 00:09:33 but I wanted to go. I was just never available. I have been invited to a few this year, but I was obviously away. Yeah, I don't love it. I don't. You know what? It's just a bit hectic for me.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I'd rather just... It's very anxiety-inducing. I also feel like unless I'm on the front row, I'm not going to go. We It's just a bit hectic for me. I'd rather just. It's very anxiety inducing. I also feel like unless I'm on the front row, I'm not going to go. Like we're not going to be on the front row. Let's be real. And I just don't have the time or energy to get the outfits for it. It's true. If I'm technically honest.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And also everything I wear is just pretty plain. Having said that, like if Prada wants to invite us to front row, we will go. Yeah, me or I'd love to go too. Oh my God. We will go. We'll be there. Burberry sign me up
Starting point is 00:10:05 if anyone wants to dress me to go I'll be there basically unless it's like some of the really so I just need to touch on
Starting point is 00:10:12 Sienna Miller came up on my thing so did you like the outfit yeah I loved it do you know which one I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:10:17 with her baby bum out you don't know which one I'm talking about yeah the white outfit like with her actual bump out skin out
Starting point is 00:10:23 so I don't think I love the outfit but what I do think is it got people talking about her you, the white outfit like with her actual bump out skin. Yeah, so I don't think I love the outfit but what I do think is it got people talking about her. You know her baby daddy is like 26. No, I didn't know this
Starting point is 00:10:31 but I know that you know of him. I don't know of him. He went to the same school as my boyfriend. No guys, that wasn't about that. That was like a grump.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The throat burp. I know exactly. They are uncontrollable. And I actually have a few coming up. I was saying this to Jemima. I have something going on with my barfing situation. I hate barfing. But at least I don't fart.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Imagine if that happened when you're on a date. Nah, it's uncontrollable. It's uncontrollable. It's uncontrollable. Do you remember that guy you did it on the live no i need something she just was on instagram live and she burped no oh my god no sorry i was actually having breakfast with someone the other day and i just opened my mouth and and i went i really don't know why i'm sharing this
Starting point is 00:11:24 what did you do i think i'm having like too many vitamins or something because open my mouth and I went I really don't know why I'm sharing this with you guys what did you do I think I'm having like too many vitamins or something because something's like gastric oh to be fair
Starting point is 00:11:30 to be there's a rumble in my tummy something's going on something's I just want to talk about Sienna's baby bum and Sophie's
Starting point is 00:11:44 burping. Anyway, she got her baby bump out, which was very out there. But it got people talking about her and I think it's because she's got her new M&S campaign coming out.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Also, like for me, Sienna Miller can do no wrong. Like to me, totally. Whatever she wears, however her hair is, she nails
Starting point is 00:12:05 I would actually say subject to controversy she's my style icon not that I dress anything like her why she doesn't really have
Starting point is 00:12:14 that much of a style no but that's why I love her she's just like so laid back so laid back and her butt was gorgeous never has her nails done
Starting point is 00:12:21 ever wow but I bet they're done that I've seen never has nails done. Nope, never has a pedicure. I watched her do
Starting point is 00:12:27 her Vogue style thing and I was like, no, no, no, I don't think so. No, but they've had the cuticles cut. I don't think they had. I think she's that laid back.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Fuck. I actually saw her like quite recently. Do you remember? I called you straight after like the other week. I called Sophie and I was like,
Starting point is 00:12:40 it seems to be on another. She stared at me, like clocked me and I was like, maybe she listens to the Vogue card. I think, no, I don't know where. She stared at me, like clocked me. And I was like, maybe she listens to the podcast. I think, no, I don't know where. I think she either thought that she knew me or like, I don't know. Or she was looking at someone else.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I don't know. But she fully like looked and like almost stopped as if I thought she was going to say something to me. But then she didn't. I remember you telling me. Yeah. I think she knew you. You know what? The only thing I can think of, and this is maybe quite an embarrassing thing to admit,
Starting point is 00:13:06 but I think a lot more people watch Made in Chelsea than we think. Like there's a lot of celebrities that just like shit TV. Not that it's shit, but that's maybe where, I don't know. Well, I like literally, I know every single thing about every single row house.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, it's true. It's true. That is so big. Oh my God, sorry. How was Shania Twain? Shania Twain was such a boss. you would not believe how tiny she is like she's the most petite little thing i've ever seen like she's she's she's perfect just in the way she was and the way she
Starting point is 00:13:37 just her personality i felt like we bonded i used her low did you go to her house no i went to her dressing room. Oh my God, that's quite cool. Yeah. And she had like this lovely nephew who was really nice. And anyway, she kicks the door down. And she's like, just go girls. What's she?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Apparently NSYNC. Is it NSYNC or NSYNC? I have no idea. Well, I don't really know who they are because I think I'm a bit too old or young. No, we're a bit too young. I think we just missed when they were being a big thing. It's annoying. Well, anyway, they're apparently coming back.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I wish Busted would come back. Oh, me too. But there's McBusted. There's McBusted. No. Is it not as good? I've never seen it. Never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Never heard of it and wouldn't do it. It's like having S Club 7 round two. There was. S Club 7 round two. There was. There was a TV show they did it's really bad that can you imagine that being like Melissa and Sophie times two in 10 years when we get too old like I'd be like well fuck off it's the same people you silly sausage no it isn't S Club 7 juniors that's what I'm talking about
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Starting point is 00:15:48 Please play responsibly. Ready? Shit, I can't get comfy. Please help. My friend listens to the pod religiously, so hopefully she hears this but doesn't realise it's about her okay she recently found out her very long-term boyfriend was sending and receiving explicit videos with a work colleague oh no he spent three days groveling
Starting point is 00:16:17 and telling her she could trust him and that he was mortified by the whole thing and he and nothing like this had ever happened before she decided she was going to try and work things and see if she could build the trust back in the relationship. Long story short, it turns out that last year he was sleeping with at least two different girls and he left his job because he couldn't deal with the guilt. No, he's a pig. It looked like she was going to completely cut things off with him.
Starting point is 00:16:41 However, a few weeks later, she said she can't be sure she doesn't see a future with him. Wait, what? So she... She's like, maybe I do see a future with him kind of thing, basically. I fancy it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 They have a house and a dog together and we were so worried that she isn't going to end things with him. None of us as a group trust him and don't believe for a second that there aren't more than three girls we already know of. Totally.
Starting point is 00:17:04 If you're checking three girls, there will be more yeah she has started getting annoyed with us when we ask what she's thinking and and when we remind her of how badly he's treated her she thought they had a perfect relationship and they were destined to be together what can we do to help her to see the light and that at her age not yet 30 life isn't over after a long-term relationship ends this way this is really hard there's nothing the more you try and convince her the more you're gonna push away yeah all you can do is be a really good friend don't ever talk about him like completely never mention him and if she brings him up just be like supportive just like very like impartial and then spend lots of time with her,
Starting point is 00:17:46 building up her confidence. And also show her how much fun she can have away from him and that there is life away from him. I think that's the problem. It's the fear of the unknown. I think for a lot of people, they've been with someone for a long time and they're like, I can't possibly ever find someone else
Starting point is 00:18:02 who's going to love me or you have this weird thing. You've invested in somebody thing yeah it's like oh it's so hard when you've got a dog in a house but I also think like you have to always think like it's really hard when you're in that scenario but a lot of people like break up when there's so many more things at stake right there's probably like 10 you know some people have got like five children and she's pregnant and she finds these things out like so many things happen all the time and people break up all the time. But when you're in it, it's really hard. And I think as a friend, you just got to like let her find her own way. You're never going to be able to convince her.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's got to be her own decision. You have to just support her. But like, obviously, I would just personally, I wouldn't be able to be like, oh, I'm so happy for you guys. I would just like brush over it. Yeah. To not piss her off and then just talk about other things. Like just build her confidence up. Oh my God, what a pig.
Starting point is 00:18:51 What a fucking pig. It reminds me of a TV show I'm watching at the moment called Wilderness. I went to say her farmhouse to like the screening of it. I would recommend you and Jamie would love it. Really? So she finds out, like she thinks that she's married this like dream guy. It's the same sort of thing. Like he's amazing and they're destined to be together she then finds um like a weird
Starting point is 00:19:10 message comes up on his phone that's like from his work colleague so she just opens it and he's in the shower she's like oh such and such is messaging and then it says um i can't i can't stop thinking about you fucking me last night like this really aggressive message and you see her like freeze and like the shock obviously kicks in anyway she confronts him about it straight away he's like it's a one-time thing anyway then later she's just on his laptop and then this sex video comes up of him shagging and she watches the whole thing of him shagging someone anyway and then unfolds there's more and more and more girls and he convinces her every time it's only one girl and then it like gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse she's still with him no and there's more and more and more girls and he convinces her every time it's only one girl and then it like gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse she's still with it no and there's
Starting point is 00:19:47 so many more things that happen in the story like there's a murder that takes place it's it's an excellent excellent tv show you would love it wilderness it's only six episodes really quick love really good but um ultimately yeah ultimately she tries to forgive i think the first thing but then her brain is never in the same place. And then the relationship was never quite the same. And then I think when you find that there's two different things of like solid cheating, there's going to be more. And they're never going to stop. And the third one cracks.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah. There's only so much one person can take. I do believe in forgiveness for certain mistakes. I think we all like believe in second chances and whatever. But I think when there's like multiple affairs, this is, yeah, fucked. Like when they put their dick in more than one person. I'm sorry, it's a dad joke. Or the same person more than twice.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Or just anyone. Oh, no, anyone. Obviously, cheating is cheating, but I think that there's a certain thing that people can forgive maybe a one-time mistake, and that's okay. Yeah, on a rare occasion. They've been shagging. When they've been having an affair with someone else like a lot is an affair there's no going back from an affair there's really no i mean like if you've been married for 25 plus years and
Starting point is 00:20:55 you've got all of these things and shit's happened and whatever and you've gone through like a midlife crisis like who fucking knows but these people aren't even married yeah they're not even married you're not married and you're having an affair yes what do you think is gonna happen when you're pregnant and oh no like no that's she does need to leave so i do appreciate that from your point of view as the best friend that's fucking hard but at least you've got like your other friends and like you're all kind of in the same boat you just gotta try and make her life as fun and easy as possible away from him so it helps her realize yeah how bad her life is with him hopefully you sort of give her light you know give her light okay right next one i'm a new listener and i just wanted to say that i'm loving the pod and you ladies but i'm really struggling with one of my current friendships
Starting point is 00:21:32 and i'd love some advice so some background me and my friend let's call her lucy have been friends five years now and we are both each other's bridesmaids at our upcoming wedding sweet we started off as very close friends but i feel myself not wanting to be in her company anymore. Oh fuck, that's a problem. Lucy is marrying a lovely man who does very well for himself and clearly works hard for the lifestyle he has and can provide. Since Lucy has been with her partner, she has lost a lot of her friends
Starting point is 00:21:58 as they felt she had changed into a person they didn't recognise anymore. But I was the only one who stood by her. Oh no. Lucy loves the fact that her partner has an important job can shower her with guests and provide her with a very comfortable life which is great and i'm truly happy for her but i find that she uses any opportunity to rub this in my face oh that's really boring she loves to tell me how small my house is what no the house me and my partner love and work very hard for. She will get very jealous over my other friendships
Starting point is 00:22:29 and will talk badly of them in front of me, which doesn't sit well with me. When me and my lovely partner got engaged, her immediate reaction was, I love how she keeps saying lovely. When me and my lovely partner got engaged, her immediate reaction was, you can't get mine for me.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Lucy. Sorry. Lucy must shut the fuck up. partner got engaged her immediate reaction was you can't get married for me lucy sorry lucy must shut the fuck up lucy's a nightmare i've had i've recently had a beautiful baby for it oh congratulations and during my pregnancy pregnancy i worked very hard in order to get myself and my partner in a better financial position so i could enjoy as much time off work as possible to spend with our new baby but lucy used this opportunity to tell me that my partner shouldn't be allowing me to work while pregnant and that maybe he should be working harder or get a better job. Oh, Lucy, please. This upset both me and my partner very much
Starting point is 00:23:16 because he works so hard to provide us an amazing life and beautiful home. This lady sounds like... Sorry, I think you need to sack Lucy off. She's pissing me off. I would just be like, Lucy, here's a stone where I take a seat. Like, you need toing me off I would just be like Lucy here's a stern word take a seat like you need to shut up I would just be like you're
Starting point is 00:23:28 making me feel really shit about myself and if this is the way that our friendship's gonna be don't want you on my wedding I spoke to my other friends about
Starting point is 00:23:34 this and they've advised me to cut things off with Lucy and distance myself as they feel she isn't a true friend and treats our friendship as a
Starting point is 00:23:39 competition there's nothing worse than a competitive person oh my god like I just can't I don't think I've got one of those in my life. Thank God. We're very lucky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely had it in previous lives. I don't think I've ever had someone I've had a previous friendship where I never felt like that, but I think they did and I couldn't help anything I was doing. I really don't know what to do as I hate to cut people
Starting point is 00:24:00 off whatsoever. But also whenever I see her, she causes me upset and I think you have to distance she just doesn't and maybe you know you've got two options you could just tell her yeah see how the conversation goes
Starting point is 00:24:14 if you love her like ultimately you've got to give the friendship a chance if you've been friends for that long like you owe it to like her and you
Starting point is 00:24:20 and I feel bad that Lucy may just like be in a really bad place herself really insecure this is also sounding a little bit like she's an narcissist. I think it's screaming she's so insecure. I don't think she has a purpose. Like she's got her husband doing her shit for her,
Starting point is 00:24:36 which is all well and good. You think it's great. But actually, if you don't have a purpose, you tend to feel a bit insecure in what's your place. And she's probably jealous that you have a job and I don't know. And maybe your relationship with your partner is really lovely.
Starting point is 00:24:48 As you say, you're having a baby and you know. It sounds like to me, she's just screaming insecurity. So I would maybe sit down with her and be like, are you okay? Because your behavior seems really odd to me and this, this, this and this and paint out to her
Starting point is 00:25:02 and give her the opportunity to be like, shit. And then if that doesn't go the opportunity to be like shit and then if that doesn't go the way you want it to then ultimately you do I think you've got to put yourself first there's only so much
Starting point is 00:25:11 you can take you don't want someone to be putting you down all the time that's awful friendship is supposed to kind of just don't have a time
Starting point is 00:25:17 that she's going to oh that's like that's like me walking into your flat being like oh your diddy little flat and it's like what the
Starting point is 00:25:23 I would be like you okay there guys obviously her flat's And they're like, what the hell? I would be like, you okay? Guys, obviously her flat's massive. But do you know what I mean? Your diddy little flat. What the hell? Or like, oh, coming over to the matchbox today.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Do you know what I mean? What the fuck is wrong with you? Also, like, when you're pregnant and being like, you shouldn't be walking your husband's rear. No, actually,
Starting point is 00:25:41 maybe I want to do it. I hate that sort of like thing. Yeah, like they think it's a backward handed compliment it's like I'm trying to look after you oh no you deserve way better like no for fuck off I know exactly the type of thing I know what Lucy's called about
Starting point is 00:25:55 I can literally tell the exact type of woman that Lucy is I just worry that maybe she's like very insecure so I feel like in that sense you've got to give her the benefit of the doubt especially as she's lost all her other friends because it sounds like she obviously did have friends at a certain point she was a great girl at a certain point something's happened something's changed and also you know sometimes people don't grow into good people or they grow into people that you don't want to be around anymore and that's okay like you just grow apart if like her
Starting point is 00:26:20 new fiance you know they have a great relationship but it has made her turn into this like stuck-up bitch that's really entitled which which it sounds like it has. And if you don't want to be friends with that, that's fine. She might be very comfortable with the person that she is now. Yeah, she might not really like it. Or, you know, things behind closed doors might not be right. Yeah. She might be really insecure.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Hiding stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Her relationship might not be as great as you think. Yeah. Her life might not be as great as she's portraying. Yes. We've got some stories. Oh my God, we we have a follow-up great you go for it okay right so the follow-up so the initial dilemma stick with my boyfriend or follow the spark do you
Starting point is 00:26:54 remember this one oh yes okay girls i'm just gonna really quickly read it out okay girls i'm writing to you from my desk because i cannot get the situation out of my head so I'm in a mostly happy relationship with him for just under two years as much as I have been happy and in love I do truly care about this person I have always had my doubts the main reason being he is four years younger than me 21 and 25 he relies on me to look after him a lot and I feel like I give much more than he does in this relationship despite all this I do feel very loved but my needs are not being fully met. However, this isn't my real dilemma. There is a boy in my close friendship group, and then in brackets, my sister's housemate, remember we told her to go for it, that I have got myself into a tricky situation, sticky situation with. From the day we met, we have always been very close and sort of initially clicked. We gravitated towards each
Starting point is 00:27:41 other on nights out and don't want to leave each other's side despite the fact that nothing's ever happened between us and then in brackets i would never cheat anyway last weekend he told my sister he was in love with me and doesn't know what to do he said he thinks i am perfect all he wants i am all he wants and he will wait that's just the best thing he thinks i'm perfect and i'm all he wants that's like i don't want anyone to say that there are definitely feelings on my part too. And I feel an undeniable chemistry with him. I can't say I felt the same kind of magnetism initially with my boyfriend. There is nothing overly wrong with my relationship.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It is very stable and safe, but I suppose there's not that kind of crazy spark. It's just a lot of love and care for each other. What the fuck do I do? Work my relationship and keep myself away from this other boy even though i really don't want to or is this all a sign that i'm with the wrong person help so sophie and i gave the advice to like sack off the boyfriend and go for the spark because we just felt like you were coasting with the boyfriend and he's obviously
Starting point is 00:28:37 he's not doing great things for you anyway do you want to read the follow-up okay right hey girls follow-up time so here's how it went down. So excited. About two weeks after I got to the point when I was completely spiraling, I could not take my mind off the other boy and the whole situation was driving me crazy. I didn't have too much of a game plan for the breakup. I just knew I had to get it done. I basically said that the age gap and his lack of effort gave me too many doubts about it working.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Good. When okay, he was, but answered and even said he always thought it would end eventually. Anyway, what the fuck, right? That's quite annoying. If I'd known that, I would have broken up with him long before. Yeah, ages ago. Ages ago.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Why the fuck do people say that? However, you guys were right. It was actually a lot easier than I thought. Anyways, now for the part you're waiting for. About two nights after the breakup, I was at my sister's for dinner. Oh my God, there's a photo. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Shut up. Sorry, okay. And obviously so was this boy because he's one of the housemates in case you've got. Yeah. So after dinner, we were cleaning up the kitchen alone. Oh my God, classic. Oh, steamy. We were messing around, laughing, dancing, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And then he pulled me in for a hug. After about 30 seconds, I pulled back, looked at him. And before I knew it, we were kissing. Oh my. I honestly back, looked at him. And before I knew it, we were kissing. Oh my. I honestly just got butterflies. God. Not going to lie, probably the best kiss of my life. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Since that kiss, we barely spent a night apart. Oh my God. Fuck off. I love this piece. We've been officially together for around three months now. And I'm the happiest and most in love I've ever been. He treats me amazingly. And I honestly can't believe how fucking good this all turned out.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Sometimes you've got to take a chance, I guess. We laugh now about the fact that when we look back, we were clearly meant for each other and just ignoring it. Well, I was at ease. Anyways, definitely bested. Oh my. Oh my God. No, guys, I actually have goosebumps at this boy.
Starting point is 00:30:17 No, they're so gorgeous. They're so gorgeous. I love them. He's got gorgeous glasses. He's a cool boy. She's a cool girl. She's got a lovely glass of champagne
Starting point is 00:30:26 in her hand they look so happy this is the best thing I feel the love from this lady oh this is why we do this podcast guys
Starting point is 00:30:34 because we bring people together we sorry we made this happen I feel really good about this I don't know about you
Starting point is 00:30:42 I have a pet on my set so do I I feel really happy god I am so happy't know about you. I have a pet myself. So do I. I feel really happy. God, I am so happy for you guys. This is so epic. This is amazing. Please give me more follow-up stories
Starting point is 00:30:51 and please just like seriously give us some juicy ones so we can take it. Oh, yeah. We can change your life. Life coaches, Sophie and Melissa. Would you rather? This is our last little segment before we sign off, guys.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Okay, be in a relationship with someone who never says I love you or with someone who never hugs you. Never says I love you. I love a hug.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Me too. Oh, either. I'd slap them off either. Oh, God. This is terrible. We have to choose one. We have to choose one. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Let me think about it. I don't mind them. No, I have to have hugs. I have to have physical touch Right. Let me think about it. I don't mind them. No, I have to have hugs. I have to have physical touch. But then I don't think if they were ever saying they love me, I'd be like, well, do you love me? They never ever say it. Ever. No, I couldn't do either.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But I really. Okay. Well, then I would have to hug them. Yeah. Sometimes I just hug Jamie and he doesn't hug me back. I will take it that there's no hug back. I'm hugging them. They never hug me.
Starting point is 00:31:43 If they didn't say I love you I would literally go star crazy me too I'd have to then extend it because I'd be like you don't love me yeah
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'm going to go with the I love you and then not getting of the hugs yeah and I would just constantly hug him even if his arms were down by his side
Starting point is 00:31:56 like this yeah yeah yeah or a hug from the back that's quite a good thing yeah I'll just spoon him and stuff like that exactly there's always a way
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