Wednesdays - 31. Why you should NEVER send these icky emojis

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

To emoji, or not to emoji? That's one of the questions for this week's ep of 'Wednesdays'!Sophie and Melissa are giving their takes on the most ILLEGAL ways to slide into someone's DMs and the ickiest emojis. They're also taking on a man whose displaying way too many red flags to one Tiny, and giving their advice on how a certain kind of break-up could lead to a beautiful type of friendship.Later on, the girls are joined all the way from Australia by OG Instagram queen, Tammy Hembrow. She's chatting all about her brand-new book 'Show Up' available to buy now, and revealing what really went down at Kylie Jenner's 21st birthday party.We're now on WhatsApp and ready for your voice note dilemmas! Send us one in here.Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: [e-mail]:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsExec: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Video editor: @jakeji.pSocial Media: @thechampagency Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you advice. Do not take what we're saying as gospel. If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. Hey, guys. Hey, friends and family. I keep thinking that your pop socket thing is like an extension of your nails. When you're holding it from that angle down there, it looks like your nails are really long. I love my little pop socket. Mine keeps falling off.

Although you know that my manager Liv has like this, her phobia is like the holes in where spiders crawl out of. Like spider eggs come out of these holes. No, and I don't want to see that. What phobia is that then? Right, triphobia. What, because it's specifically a spider? No, you'll be sick.

Have a look. Have a look, have a look. Anyway, these are giving me that energy, but I don't want to tell her, because she bought this for me. And she tells me how much she's scared of this thing, and I keep thinking,

but it's on the back of your phone. Look at this, a spider. That was in my fricking garden. Yeah, we've got one called Jimmy, and he lives in my house. Oh,

it's so, you know, that's a good sign, it means that your house isn't damp. They like dry places, so it's a good sign that your house does not have like damp or mold apparently my house definitely does not have damp or mold it's a very very dry house and you're high up so you probably exactly but what's been going on then prash oh my god so i am had my gorgeous friends jack and hawaii stay and i knew this for ages and i completely forgot to talk about it and tell you but you know um one day and the guy in it leo woodall yes he follows my friend hermione

on instagram so she didn't know and she like went on his instagram and it was like accept follow request and she was like what anyway you go on his followers followers. He's following her. She accepted it, obviously. Jack was fuming. Why is he following her? But he also follows your husband. Which is more understandable because obviously Jamie's very famous. But why am I? No offense.

I love her so much. She has three photos and she's private. She has three photos and I love her so much. That's it. No, no, no, no. She's my new favorite person in the entire world. And the last post was October 2021. She's like, I don't get it, but quite cool.

Do you think he was stalking you and tapped on her through that by mistake? None of this makes sense. It's peculiar, isn't it? It's peculiar. It's almost as weird as Boris Johnson's wife following Toby. Messaging Toby. Messaging. Didn't she follow me too?

Yeah, and she'd messaged you. It was obviously like. Do you think it was her? Yeah. Who's the weirdest person who follows you? Do you remember when Miranda Kerr followed me for like 10 years? Oh, yeah. And then she unfollowed me.

Oh, for real. I know. That was, I remember seeing that. That was quite cool. And I literally was drunk on a night out. years and then she unfollowed me recently I know I remember seeing that and I literally was drunk on a night out and someone said to me they were like you know Miranda Kerr follows you and I went blah text

every group chat being like guys Miranda Kerr do you think that's quite a big deal? I was also like 24 like give a girl a break that is a really big deal I'm trying to think who the most unreal famous person is that would have deal I'm trying to think like who the most like unreal famous person is that would have that I

saw that followed me I'll tell you who mine is oh mine's a person from Love Actually who? sorry not that man she's a big deal

the lady that goes out with the Prime Minister that is a big deal Marcy McCutcheon I think I don't know if she still does but she used to follow me

and I was like oh random do you want to hear who mine is yeah yours will be really cool casey gorman who's that love island oh fucking hell talking about people going booming on instagram we've got the one the only tammy hambrow on later i'm excited. She was one of the first people that I ever followed on Instagram. Same. She's huge. She's stunning.

And I remember people being obsessed. Obsessed with her. Always been like gorgeous figure, like done lots of like fitnessy things. Gorgeous bum, so tanned. Anyway, we're getting all the tea. She's just released a new book. It's amazing.

She's so sweet. So we're going to have a little chat with her all the way from's just released a new book it's amazing she's so sweet so we're gonna have a little chat with her all the way from Australia and catch up I was like we're interviewing Tammy Hembrace and he's oh yeah yeah yeah I know I was like what and then we said this guy girl called Helena Hembrace you actually used to go to my school and I was like no no no very different Hembrace very very very different Hem Okay, right. So we went out the weekend, didn't we? We had a lovely time. We went for lunch.

We went for lunch. You were very hungover. I was very hungover, so I didn't drink and I didn't have anything to bring to the conversation. I just sat there and listened. It was lovely. We went for lunch with Liv Bentley, Emily Blackwell, and then Jordan, Emily's boyfriend. He was, I just love him. He's so great.

He's fucking great. He brings so much to the table. He's so weird in a great way. Yeah, he was, I just love him. He's so great. He's fucking great. He brings so much to the table. He's so weird in a great way. Yeah, he's fantastic. I really do. No, it's so funny. We leave. And you know when Jamie's like, by the way, Jamie's like weird when he drinks.

Because he never drinks. He gets so overexcited. He had two beers. Half pints. You would never have seen someone as drunk as he was by the evening. Genuinely. To be fair, like, it was quite early starting. So I guess by the evening, that's a long time. Also, also jamie after two drinks he's not really drunk for like three months he's

he's like all or nothing yeah anyway we leave and he's like jordan give me his number i love that like i'm like you need to calm down he's like found it found the number text and give i'm like leave the poor boy alone i know he just every time he sees him he's like I love that boy anyway then me Liv and Jamie went to a pub to see our other friends they have this gorgeous

little corgi puppy it's so cute oh my god I saw that precious and then Rube's Tim Tim came to meet us looking amazing

Liv's looking amazing everyone's all grateful everyone's just glowing at the moment it was summer it felt amazing and you know one of those days

where you're meant to just go out for a lunch you end up like being out to like spontaneous days the best then we went to koji and parson's green never eaten so much oh my god times across the board it's so good isn't it it's so good but basically we were like peppermint tea vibe really wholesome like tim's having some lovely wine jamie 15 moscow moors i was like gosh it's the cocktails they really get you and he was screaming at the top of his voice. And I was just like, you? But you were in bed by 10.30. I was. I went by. Wait, so did you stay out? Yeah, I left him at Duke of Green or something. The pub. Duke of Green, yeah.

Parsons Green is uni. To me, it's Newcastle Uni. And I loved it. I was like, everyone's so fucking young. It's not like Notting Hill vibes at all. The young people are out, the old people aren't. Yes. And also, I don't think they necessarily all live there, but obviously,

it's very pub vibe. I don't often go to pubs. And it's very like after work drinks vibe. It's a real community. And it's really light. It's a very neighbourhood. But everyone feels young.

Feels really young. Which I loved. But I felt old. I don't really go out and pass on screen. Trust me, I felt like an old spinster. I was like,, which I loved, but I felt old. I don't really get out and pass on screen. Trust me, I felt like an old spinster. I feel old anywhere I go these days because everyone's fucking 18. I know. Everyone's 18.

Anyway, it was a lovely time. The sun was shining. The minute that sun comes out, someone gives me happy pills. Everyone's mood changes. You want to know what the best beer garden is in genuinely the whole of London? It's a place called the Leather Bottle in Earlsfield. It's the biggest. Where's Earlsfield?

Further down than Wandsworth, but yeah. Yeah. It's the most enormous beer garden you've ever seen. Has anyone else been there? The Leather Bottom. Well, there you go. Leather Bottle. You're quite a pub gal.

I'm not. I never go to pubs. Yeah, my friends are very pub vibes because, you know, London's expensive. You're also younger than me. And going to a bar is expensive, but you can go to the pub and you can get a cheap bottle of wine and share it with your pals or a beer. So what pubs are your fave? What's a pub that we always go to?

I don't know. I feel like we go to different pubs all the freaking time. The Pear Tree in Batsy. It's not really a pub, but it's lovely. I haven't been there this year and I can't wait for that. Yeah, that's a vibe. That is such a vibe. Is that very fun

in the evenings then? Yeah. So fun. I need to go. So fun. Whenever I've gone there for like a day thing it always ends up

as like a 4am situation every time. There's something in the air. Something in the air. And it has to be good weather. Otherwise, things aren't going places, are they? I really feel like, guys, we've has to be good weather. Otherwise, things aren't going places, are they?

I really feel like, guys, we've got to manifest good weather because that sun, it did things to me and then it just got whisked away from me in the blink of an eye. What was that? It was the Saturday two weekends ago where it was the first day when I went to that beer garden and it was like 18 degrees. No, because it was like in the wind you wearing a lens no because it was like

in the wind you get a bit chilly and I didn't want to go into the evening being cold yeah but that was the first day and I remember walking

outside in the morning being like oh my god it's almost like this weird feeling comes over you where it's like nostalgia

yeah and it's so strong and then the smell of the air everything is like oh my god it instantly makes you feel like I'm at school

and I'm like 10 again yeah it's the same as frost on grass reminds me of or crunching the autumn leaves oh yeah yeah that's such a specific thing basically every single season the beginning of it i'm like true right let's get into the dilemmas so this came through our whatsapp and it's from a boy which is exciting hi both i really enjoy listening to your podcast. As a guy, I feel like I learn a lot, especially as I've just come out of a long-term relationship.

I've been single now since last summer and we've been on dating apps but tend to not get many matches. When I do get a match, the convo just never seems to stick for long enough, period. And I get ghosted. I've also messaged two girls on Instagram recently and again don't get anything back so it does tend to knock the confidence. There are girls I see from my area that I know of on the dating apps and we don't match on that. Is it still worth replying to one of their stories on Instagram to see what happens or are they just not interested? Could you offer any advice as most of my friendship group

are in relationship so I don't go out much as well to meet girls thank you can I just say we check you out you are fit no but seriously I think boys get pied all the time I think perseverance is key I don't think like looking back at the way Jamie used to text me and like how I know he would have texted all girls I couldn't have sat that boy off if I tried he would howl me like a dog and that just you break in I find it attractive when boys just go for it only if it's so funny they're always it's like stalker vibes and then you just block them it's true although I've always gone for boys who are perseverance I've never liked boys who play hard to get I'm like bye see you later lame but then when i like them they play hard to get and

i'm like i love you okay so should i tell you what i like i just like inner confidence when boys just like don't give a fuck they're like i'm gonna i fancy you and they keep going they keep going they keep going then they get you and then they're like bye and they pull away slightly and you're like oh my god you've ripped my heart out I feel like dating apps is difficult because people might just have them on their phone and they might not even be looking on them. So maybe it is worth replying to their stories. Reply to those stories. I also, by the way, so many boys reply to my stories.

It's like they're not flirting with me. Do you know what I mean? It's not like that girl's instantly going to be like, oh my God, that boy's replied to a story. It doesn't have to be as aggressive as a flame emoji. Like you could just be like, ha ha. Please don't send a flame emoji. Please don't. On that note.

Or fire. Just respond to something that's like, in relation to what is on the story. So if it's a photo of the dog, I don't know. Comment on the dog or something. Only one reply per girl. See what happens. Do not double reply on a story.

Also, if she reads it, you have to send something that's enough for her to respond to. Sending an emoji probably isn't going to give her enough to respond to. If I was you, I probably wouldn't send any emoji unless it was along with some sort of a message. So if you wrote something funny about the laughing, crying face, fine. Devil horns, is that? No.

Just please don't send an emoji. To be honest, I don't really love an emoji on a boy anyway. Just stop sending emojis. I send them to my friends, but if I was ever dating... I think the laughing, crying one's quite funny. Fine, when you've had a couple of dates, but even then, I'm not an emoji girl with boys. I really can't.

Yeah, no, neither to be fair. The laughing, crying, whenever I write something, sometimes it pops up as low. It comes up with the one with the eyes like this, and I'm like, oh, no, I don't want to send that emoji. You have to delete it and then rewrite it again. And obviously, like, when you're, like, texting them and you've got into, like, a rhythm or, like, whatever,

you've escalated. You gauge it. You can send a loving, but, like, please just don't at the beginning. Boys and girls, I'm just, I'm not really into emojis. I had an icky emoji from Toby on our first date. Tell me. You know what it was, because I screenshotted you immediately. Was it this one? No, it was, that was a really good impression because I know the exact emoji that you mean.

You know that face like hmm. What was the emoji? So I left his, it doesn't matter what time in the morning it was, and he was like, can you tell me when you get home safe, please? And like messaged me that and I think he said it, either he said it to me or messaged me that. I can't remember which one it was. Anyway, I was like, home, kiss. And he goes, he sent me back, like, the, like, that one. And a love heart.

Yeah. For a hand and a love heart. And I was like. What the hell? And he was like, I don't know what came over me. And the moment I sent it, I was like, she's never going to speak to me again. Did you reply? No. Love hearts punch you. It was like, I don't know what came over me. And the moment I sent it, I was like, she's never going to speak to me again. Did you reply? No.

Love heart. No. It was like this and then a love heart. You never sent that to me, but I would have been like. I would have screenshot everything. But this is going back almost three years now. So obviously we can't. I probably at the time.

You would have seen it. He's quite like something about Toby. He gets away with a lot because he's just actually precious. But like that's criminal. Do not do that. Those hands hands give me do not do that and don't do this with the monkey that is the worst one I think has ever existed you know who would do that you know who has done that one of my ex-boyfriends so we we were broken up yeah we were broken up and um my friend Mills got a message from her friend screenshotting a message from him

sliding into her DMs like this guy has finished me and it was like literally like it was like hey Chika and then it was like a waving and then a monkey. The waving's ick too. And also Chika, illegal.

Illegal. Can I tell you another thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do not. ick too and also chica illegal illegal can I tell you another thing do not I repeat do not ever use the word fuego

what's that hot in Spanish and boys go fuego oh my god I've never heard that criminal criminal you know what

saying anything kind of like in Spanish in French unless you're genuinely from my country don't fucking say it because it's just not right basically just try and be as like grammatically correct and just be

normal stop trying so hard i think that's like the key thing like just be normal yeah i mean don't overthink stuff okay so i'm gonna do a story so i've done a story of me at the beer garden on saturday what are you gonna say? I would just go straight in. Where are you? That's like giving me stalker vibes you Know he's seen her on Instagram. I think he's seen her out, but they don't know each other He just knows that like there's a few girls that are from his area that he's also seen on tinder But they haven't responded to him. So he's like is it worth me replying to a story then you probably would do like the love i i don't know death death it's really tough listen

this is a tough gig and i appreciate that a lot so we're gonna we're gonna come to a solution here come on yeah right so i'm at the big garden if there's a dog in the photo you're gonna reply like oh when do i get to meet him or something vomit all of them it's so hard i think i think i would just do like an emoji back to it i go back on just i know but i go back but replying with a sentence is so deep like maybe it's like a slip of the hand that he did like some love eyes emoji you know you can like like it you can like the photo just do that depend like it a few times plant seed i don't then if something really great comes up,

you reply to it. Only if it's like... If she puts a really fit photo of her, I don't think there's anything wrong with a boy doing an emoji back to her, actually. It really depends. I'm so sorry. I think it's trial and error. Sometimes I'm into it and sometimes I'm not.

This is obviously before I was married. Listen, ultimately, if she's going to be into it, it doesn't actually matter too much what you say. Totally. So I think be yourself, don't overthink it, and try not to send a cringe emoji. I think being also quite confident is quite sexy.

Same. So maybe if her name, I think using someone's name can also be quite, I don't know what it does to somebody it makes somebody feel slightly yeah so maybe if her name is Emily you reply like looking good Emily or something I don't know then she'll be like oh I don't it's less like so fit listen no I wouldn't reply to a story I would just message her and be like, hey, what are you up to? Can I take you for a drink? That's what I prefer if a boy did.

Then you get into a convo. Then you reply to the stories. Do not go far. I've never met you and you're sending me far emojis to me at the pub. I'm just not into it. Be upfront. Ask me on a date

and then we'll see where it goes. You know what? The worst that's going to happen is you're going to get ghosted. Who fucking cares? Okay, dilemma two. Hi, Sophie and Melissa. I'm listening to you all the way from South Africa.

What do they say? You oak. Oak, you big oak. Do they say that? Yeah, they call men oaks. I have been seeing a guy for around a month. We were video calling before we met up and the chat was incredible. And we finally met up. the chemistry and sex was amazing since then the comms have

been really bad his texting has been inconsistent but he's been on instagram active i don't know if i'm looking into it deeply or if i'm seeing it for what it is last weekend he invited me to have a movie night at a fancy place instead a nice hotel he then had to cancel as the hotel had overbought. I checked online and it turned out there were rooms available. I asked if he wanted to hang out on Saturday and he turned around and said he doesn't know me well enough yet to make a day plan. Am I being delusional or is the man giving off fuckboy vibes? If he says I don't know you enough to make a day plan, he said I only know you well enough to have a shag. he is unfortunately just up for sex and sometimes that's what boys do yeah and he's actually had the decency to tell you that he's

not leading you on and taking on long dates meet you for love yeah he's literally been like no i don't want to go for day dates with you i don't want to see you so wake up and smell the coffee i'm sorry i'm sorry too because sometimes we've all been there with that you might be into it take it for what it is if you want to just keep shagging him fantastic you got yourself a fuck buddy you can always date someone else in the day you can that is so true just don't fall in love because girls fall in love with sleeping with boys and boys don't and i don't understand why that is well i think that look you haven't fallen too deeply he's actually told you that he only wants to have sex

because to me that's black and white like he's literally said that um so you just take it you either continue just sleeping with him or you go bye and also i feel like you're into this and you're worrying about why he hasn't replied and like why he's saying certain things so to me your feelings are already getting involved and i don't think this will end well if you use him as just sleeping with him because you're going to fall further and he's just going to continue. And it sounds like he's obviously doing this with a few other people.

He obviously took someone else to that hotel. He's lying about it being overbooked and yada, yada, yada. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Some people are just like that. I think he thinks you're very much in the know, like you're on the same page

because he's not hiding it. He's like... Yeah, no, I don't know you well enough for that. Yeah. I'll take you to the I think he thinks you're very much in the know, like you're on the same page, because he's not hiding it. He's like... Yeah, no, I don't know you well enough for that. Yeah. I'll take you to the hotel and shag you. Also, like, booking a hotel room is like, you're fucking. I know.

It's also quite like, why is he booking a hotel room? I guess he's... I don't know. There's a few red flags that I would just stay away from it. I would say, Claire, I really don't advise you going back into this one. You've only slept in once.

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He gave me a call and asked me to go onto his laptop and forward an email. Me being a nosy girl, I then used this as an opportunity to go through his emails. I ended up in his deleted folder and found an email from Reddit, which is a big online message board. It said that he had opened up an account, so I searched up the username. On Reddit, you can see what people have been commenting on, so I searched his username and I couldn't believe it. My boyfriend had been commenting on gay porn what he'd been interacting with videos of men wearing thongs men's going at it and he even commented wish i could take it as deep as you oh my god i thought you meant he was like commenting like hate on like random stuff on

the internet oh my god he's into it i spoke to his sister about it and she said that she'd seen something similar on his ipad when he was about 18 but nothing since she didn't seem shocked at all hold on so the sister knows yeah when i confronted him about it he promised me it was just a kink and said that he was just curious about it after someone mentioned it at football he swore that he wasn't gay and just something that turned him on so i forgave him but couldn't move on every time we get intimate that's all i can think about so i decided to call it a day but now i'm thinking i made the wrong decision please help i'm so sorry he could potentially be bisexual and want to spread his wings that's true but if you it's for me i don't i don't think

i could date someone that had that as a kink because that's not something I could ever give them. Exactly. And also I would just be like, I'm completely just not, I'm not a guy. And I can't do that. I just, like, it's not a kink I could ever fulfill. And intimately, that would probably make me feel a certain type of way as well. Because I'd be like, you're not turned on by me at all you're just thinking about that it would all encompass my

ride it's all i would think about i think the right decision he he's quite obviously bisexual like this it's not that it's not there's no such thing as having a kink about sleeping with the same sex like you're bisexual um or gay yeah and he's maybe not ready to come to terms with it yet so this is like his first step of and you know what you might have actually really done him a favor and it might give him the chance to now he feels like maybe someone else knows maybe you need to be a bit more supportive in a sense of like you know what i still love you so much whatever we had a great relationship if this is actually how you feel and blah blah blah i can't be with you but i want you to feel like it's okay and you don't have to hide that from your from people and then be in a

relationship and try and cover it up because also they're not fairly on the people that he's in a relationship with if he's hiding that part of himself but then equally it's difficult to maybe come to terms with it so i feel like lean into it yes you should try and be supportive of that but I think you've made the right decision by leaving and I think it would make it it's up to you but I think it would make it easier if you like became friends with him and like helped him develop his sexuality because he he clearly is in a bit of denial if he's saying it's just a kink. Yeah. And perhaps that would really, like, hone into you that you and him can't be together and, you know, and then you just love him as a friend.

Totally. I think he needs support right now. Yeah, he needs support right now and maybe other people don't know about it. Mind you, I think it's great that his sister knows. I don't know if they have a relationship and talk, that kind of relationship and talk about it. She doesn't seem very judgy though.

It also doesn't seem like a new thing if his sister found out all those years ago. So it's something that he's been harboring for a while. And you know what? You probably, Melissa's so right. You probably did him a favor. He probably, you know, for whatever reason, which is really sad,

maybe didn't want to come out or whatever. And maybe you've given him like the reality, like, no, no, you're not living your true self. for whatever reason which is really sad maybe he didn't want to come out or whatever and maybe you've given him like the reality like no no you're not living your true self or whatever or he just wants to spread his wings in which case then maybe he'll be with someone who is a bit more fluid with all that stuff yeah but i think you've done the right decision i think that there's no harm in being friends with him and helping him explore whatever he wants to explore totally i think a beautiful thing can come out of this same and a real friendship could come because just because you're in love with him you could be in love with him as a friend totally

hi girls i just wanted to send a message in and say thank you your show has been somewhere i can escape for a little while during some of my toughest moments for the past few years my fiance and i have been on a roller coaster journey with fertility there were moments when the darkness seemed overwhelming but your podcast always managed to come through with a bit of escapism and joy every week oh my god that's so lovely last year after numerous challenges and setbacks we are blessed with a successful round of ivf against all the odds our little miracle arrived and we welcomed a beautiful baby boy into our lives i can't help but think that your podcast played a part in keeping my spirits high during those trying times

so from the bottom of my heart thank you never stop making the pod oh my god we love you congratulations we're so happy that is phenomenal news can we find out the name and have a photo of the little baby? I would really love to know more about this. I would really, really love that. I know it sounds so strange, but I feel like we've not been going for that long. But obviously we have been going long enough for someone to go through. Three years. For someone to go through these big things.

Because I'm like, no, that's not enough time to have a baby and try for a baby. Obviously it is. It's crazy. Well, Tammy, thank you so much for coming on Wednesdays. We're big fans over here. So we're so happy you could come on all the way from Australia. Thank you for having me. I'm excited. Sorry, I love the Australian accent.

It's not very often you get to actually ever hear one when you do. It's just so nice. I know. When I hear an Australian accent, I like can't stand it what I was the best like an Australian movie or anything I'm like is that what I sound like it's just I don't know I watched a documentary recently and they were like really Australian they were like right in the outbacks I can't remember and I was like that I've never had that accent before I couldn't understand what they were saying does it vary like from place to place in Australia like it does in the UK yeah some are like really really strong and it's just like walls but yeah

I don't think mine's super strong no yours is gorgeous and Tammy congratulations on your book it's so amazing we've got it we've got it here it's also very yours is gorgeous and Tammy congratulations on your book it's so amazing we've got it we've got it here it's also very aesthetic it goes really well with our background yeah it came out today so I've been running around to all the different bookstores and like looking at it yeah oh my god amazing and this is your first book yes yeah that's so fun how come you decided to um release a book now well it's always sort of something I wanted to do before I was 30 it's like one of those like bucket list goals kind of thing I'm an avid reader I love to read so I was like I just want to do my own and I've sort of always

wanted to do it but I've always been so busy and never really just like gotten around to it and then yeah the past like a year or so I've just been working on it in the background and it's finally here. Did you ever get like writer's block? No, it was just like a bit confronting, like reflecting that much on, you know, my own journey and myself. Like it was just a bit weird. Is there anything that you sort of learned from yourself in the process? I learned that life is really just a continuous sort of journey.

Like even now after I've like written the book and it's obviously it's like meant to be sort of a self-help book and like help people and sort of teach people and motivate people and inspire people. But it's sort of shown me that I'm still on my journey like my journey continues like I'm still constantly learning I'm still making mistakes I'm still growing so yeah it's definitely made me look at myself a lot and yeah I feel like that's so healthy isn't it to be able to do that I feel like that's a lot what I guess a lot of people do when they go to like therapy is like so much self-reflection. Writing it all down must be so real.

Yeah, it can definitely be confronting. It's like full on. But no, it is so therapeutic. Yeah, I can imagine it's really cathartic. I feel like what you just said is a really good piece of advice. We have a really amazing core group of listeners and we try our very best to sort of answer dilemmas and give people advice sometimes it's not unhinged sometimes it's really unhinged but I feel like the listeners would love a bit of Tammy's advice is there anything that you've sort of ever been told that you think was

like a really pinnacle piece of advice or anything you could share with our listeners I have so many little pieces of advice in the book and like different quotes and things like that. But something I think that I've always just learned is a huge one when it comes to sort of just being like happier in life in general is to celebrate the little wins and like things that can usually seem like mundane or boring or simple and just finding like a reason

to celebrate like those smaller things in everyday life especially like someone like me I'm a mom I'm constantly running around I'm busy and things can be like really stressful so it's really nice to just try and look for little tiny things to celebrate every day. That's lovely. So true. Like even just implementing gratitude and just all the little things. And I guess you have obviously been in the public eye and online for over a decade. It's crazy. When you first started,

was it, it was literally just Instagram. I mean, I remember like following you back in the day. You were like one of the OG influencers. I feel like a lot of you came from Australia, actually the OGs you guys did because Steph Smith yeah Steph we've always also had on the podcast who is so amazing you and her were honestly like two of the first people I ever followed yeah it's so weird because even back then when I, I didn't like see a lot of people sort of doing that as like a job or whatever. So, yeah, it was very strange sort of looking back and being like I was one of the first kind of thing. So it's weird knowing how long I've been on it makes me feel so old.

But, yeah, it's cool. I also feel like back then, did social media feel like the audience wasn't as close? And it wasn't like, I feel like now the audiences are so accessible. So like when there's things like criticism or like trolls or even nice things, it feels like they're so close, if you know what I mean. How do you deal with like that? They're so accessible. Yes. Like a comment is then right there. Whereas I feel like back then it felt like it was further away like you could ignore it I feel like as well a lot more now since you can

like like people's comments and things like that so there's a lot more of that like jumping on the bandwagon especially when it comes to like negativity and like sort of online trolling and bullying and stuff like that which can can be frustrating. Um, and it can be overwhelming. Like I get so many trolls all the time, but I'm so used to it now though. I really have such thick skin now because it's just like a constant sort of thing. Like there's so many amazing, like followers and fans and things like that. But then it's sort of like the negative ones always stick out a bit but I feel like I've just I've gotten good at really ignoring it I feel like no matter how fixed someone's skin is and like you said like you've been in this industry for so long

you have to have a fix in or you're just not gonna survive in it it doesn't make it any easier how do you like deal with it best? Does it ever get to a point where you're like, it's really affected you? It's just more so not even looking at it. Like things like, especially like online articles and things like that, like daily mail or whatever, like you just never ever read any of the like comments on that kind of stuff. And then if I've posted something and I can see like I don't know some negative comments or people jumping on a bandwagon or anything like that I literally just won't look back at the comments I don't want to like put that in my mental space any of that negativity

and things like that in your book you've obviously spoken about loads but one of like a big thing that was obviously in the press a lot was the situation at Kylie's 25th which you've spoken about in your book does it feel nice that you've sort of had a platform where you can share your side of the story and clear up any sort of rumors? It was sort of like therapeutic, like putting it in there, because I feel like after I sort of touched on it, like when it happened, like a little bit, and then it was just, I've sort of like blocked it out of my mind since then. So it was like, that was one of those confronting things because that was a sort of difficult time of my life. Um, and like when I did the audio book recording for the book, I just burst into tears as soon as I like finished that

part of the, of the book. So yeah, it, it, it was quite therapeutic in a way, sort of putting it down. And I am a lot older now. Like I feel like I was so young and I feel like at the time I was very hard on myself about it and I don't feel like that about it now. So that's nice. Oh my God. And you absolutely shouldn't have felt like it. I feel like the press can be really mean and the internet and like you were so young like the things that I did uh when I was god we weren't packed and photographed doing the things that happened to us like oh my god is there any rumor that's gone around about you on the internet that you would like to clear up or what is like the craziest rumor about you where you're like that is just not true I feel like there's been so many over the years, obviously huge ones saying like I've had a BBL and stuff like that, which is absolutely insane.

A little bit of a compliment. That is a compliment. 100%. Yeah, I take that as a compliment. But I'm like, if I was to do that, I would have gone like all out, like the hips and everything, you know? So I'm like, I don't really get why people even say that. But I just ignore it. And I'm like, whatever.

And obviously you're an amazing mom and you probably inspire so many moms out there and we had a listener from Wednesdays from a woman and she became a mom really young and she wrote in to tell us that it was just like the best decision of her life and we sort of kept up with her journey um she she wrote in when she was pregnant and we've just been on this journey with her and it's just been amazing we'd love to hear more about your experience of being a mom um and how you found you know being a mom quite young as well yeah I was really young I I feel like it did sort of make me grow up quite quickly. I had no, I remember taking

Wolf home from the hospital and I was like 20 years old and I was like, okay, like where's the manual? Like, what do I even do? Like, I had no idea what I was doing, but it was nice in the sense that I feel like we sort of grew alongside each other and were like, I feel like as I was teaching him as he was growing he was also teaching me a lot and it was really nice and also I had way more energy back then like I had Posy not that long ago and I am just so much more tired now so I feel like um no I only have good things to say about becoming a mom at that age and my mom was like 36 when she had me which is considered an older parent I guess and she was like you're no matter how old or young you are you're never ready for

a start but the energy levels that I had were like not as good as obviously when I was like 10 years younger everything was harder in a sense yeah like it is definitely different because I had wolf and sass so close together and then I had posy tell me your names your kids are really cute posies this that is so gorgeous that is so cute yeah I love that name I heard it um on a podcast I just fell in love with it but um yeah wolf and sass are obviously so close in age and I was super young and then posy was like more recent and even like my whole pregnancy like just everything was so much different and I was just exhausted the entire time I feel like you're so right there's no right way around doing right time like it's always you're always just gonna go into mother mode when

you have your child yeah you'll definitely like never be ready that's so true what they say loads of our listeners are actually always writing in and they're yeah we've actually got quite a large australian audience which is so amazing because we're so thrilled to hear you on the podcast but even our uk listeners are always asking us like a lot of them are thinking about moving they're sort of at that age before they've had children or before they've sort of got into a set career and they're like should we move to Australia like what would you say to them do you love it yeah I would say move here it's amazing no I absolutely love I feel like as well

because I traveled a lot and when I was a bit younger I also wanted to like live in LA and then after being all these different places so much there is honestly just no place like home for me like I I feel like it gave me such a big appreciation for Australia and I'm a water baby I love the ocean and things like that so I just I love living here. Tammy, you have done so much in your 20s. What do you think your 30s bring? I always hear the 30s is like the prime of your life. So I'm excited. I'm excited to go into my 30s. I have a new business that I'm starting at the moment. So can you give us a tell us? It's in its its very early stages but i'm doing it with my two older sisters amy and emily and it's definitely my biggest project that i've ever done so i'm really really excited about it but i can't like say too much just yet you're absolutely killing

it tammy thank you so much for coming on wednesdays where can like our listeners find your book it's definitely on Amazon um WH Smith yeah that one thank you so much we love our little community you guys mean the world to us and please keep sending in all of your stories we love them so much. Please WhatsApp us. We'll put the WhatsApp number on here and the link for the WhatsApp. So send in your dilemmas via WhatsApp. So we've obviously not had a voice note. So we're waiting desperately on tenderhooks

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