Wednesdays - 48. Two bridesmaids and one hairdresser: the WILDEST wedding story
Episode Date: August 20, 2024This week Sophie and Melissa dive into their latest TV obsessions, starting with "Too Hot to Handle”, with Melissa revealing which member of the new cast she’s crushing hard on.What do you get whe...n you combine an exotic wedding abroad, a group of crazy bridesmaids, and a handsome hairdresser? A WILD wedding story which is perfect for 'Wednesdays' 👀AND one of our Tinies’ dilemma is freaking out about dating an older guy. The girls tackle the age-old question—how old is too old to date? They share their own boundaries and reveal which celeb silver foxes they’d make an exception for…--Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have one or a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma? You can send us a voice note or message using the link here.Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pSocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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hello hello current things i need to talk to you about right now is too hot to handle i've been
talking about to so few of you about this before she's showing me right she's in love there's a
few people on it that i'm obsessed with so there's a guy called charlie and he's with this girl
called katherine who looks exactly like julie perr who is 10 out of 10 oh the girl you just
showed me yeah she's honest she also looks like no no no that's the other girl that looks like
madison beer slash emily blackwell like it's freakish from the side the one that looks like
emily blackwell her name's lucy she works in a club in london i saw her the other day and i was
like oh wait so they did too hot to handle she's working in a club in london yeah shut the fuck up
so i i knew she was to me is american it's not it's international but most charlie lives in kent
so we really fancy charlie i've never met him or heard of him
right
it's because he gives me
Toby vibes
but like a bit of a
cheekier
naughty version
because looks wise
he doesn't look anything
like Toby
no I would say maybe
like the face shape
is kind of similar
but that's it
but like features aren't
so like not really Toby
you just fancy him
you're giving yourself
like a green flag
because you're like
I only fancy him
because he looks
like my boyfriend no he doesn't look like him if you watch it there's jokes like
the dad jokes and things like he's very funny it's that English charm I could personally never
be attracted to an American boy because their personality and their humor for me personally
is it I find just icky I've never watched any reality TV where I found an American personality attractive.
No, I agree.
That chat is not my vibe.
Yeah, I just can't get on board with it.
No, they are fundamentally, like, their conversation is so different.
So different.
It's wild.
American boy chat is just so different.
Okay, American boy chat is, like, so fucking intense.
Oh, my God.
Hey, how are you?
You look like a stand-up girl. I bet you went to school and got really good grades. And how are your family. Oh my God, yeah. Hey, how are you? You look like a stand-up girl.
I bet you went to school and got really good grades.
And how are your family?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
Whereas a boy's like, what's happening, girls?
You all right?
No, an English voice chat is like, necks.
Which has to be the fine line.
I don't love a neck all the time.
I'm a bit like, shut up.
Yeah, like the Robert De Niro comment, no.
No, more like, you you know like constant next you're just a bit like oh that's something better to do
i don't know you've got to like be a fine line of cheeky why are we talking like we're both single
because because these programs it's anthropology at the end of the day it's just observing other
humans go about their business and like try and get a try and get a mate okay should I tell you my 101 thing that I will fancy about English boys?
Very rarely you'll get an American guy that's weird.
I think any weirdness in an English boy, any weirdness at all, I'm like, I'm laughing.
But like funny weird.
You definitely can get weird blokes that are American.
You can get everyone.
Okay, but not like weird like, I watched Lizards all weekend.
Like that's not doing it for me.
Like hyper weird, like they say weird doing it for me like hyper weird like
yeah yeah they say weird comments you're like what the fuck did that come from jokes and you
laugh at them yeah some people are just vanilla and some people aren't I agree I also feel like
you're not quite grasping how good this program is at just showing the difference between an
American boy and the English boy chat what's the ickiest thing an American boy can say I just think
that you're a really beautiful person.
Or something like that.
I don't know.
You've got a really good heart.
Just something overly like deep.
I don't know if it's ingrained in us
because we grew up
watching American TV.
It doesn't ever really sound like
there's much authenticity
behind an American boy
saying something like that to me.
And I don't know if it's the accent.
I don't know what it is.
I don't like the accent
I just find it difficult to watch them having a conversation because I'm like I just don't
believe you I'm really not that good with deep chat anyway in general like I love saying I love
you but I really struggle with like really deep compliments so maybe I'm quite British in that way
maybe some girls like that no every girl can't surely so on this program they're geared up and
produced to be like i fucking love
sex and like i'm so horny and it's like quite jarring because it's like okay well that's just
really unnecessary and uncomfortable but i guess the whole point in this program is that they're
like tamed and they fall in love with you and they can't have sex right yeah so the american boys all
come on and they're like yeah so like i'm from like california and like i just love to surf and
like i basically fuck my way through the whole of Miami
and yada yada yada
and then it comes to it
and they get rejected
because their chat's
really shit
and then they cry
and then they leave the show
I'm like it's just so
icky
and I'm like
you need to be who you are
stop pretending like
you're this other person
you're actually a real
sensitive soul
they don't ever own
who they are really
whereas the British boys
know who they are
and they follow through
with it till the end American boys just become that deep way and then english boys are
like we're that cheeky chappy yeah that is that stereotype but they'll get deep at the right
moment i always think and occasionally like there are definitely loads of english boys that give me
major ick there's no american boys that don't give me the ick whereas there are lots of english boys
that don't that's because we're english and we love English humour. We're just biased towards our own sense of humour.
But if you think about all the past series, there's been that Harry, what's his name?
Jowsey.
Harry Jowsey.
He's been British.
Harry Jowsey is Australian, not British.
Australians and English people, we have like the same.
Australians, I fancy them down to a D.
Okay, so he was Australian, fine, but that's virtually the same as English.
So Cam from Too Hot to Handle,
and now he's with Emily from that programme.
And now we're talking baby podcasts.
He was obviously the best one with the best chat.
I'm sure there was another one,
and now we've got Charlie,
who's just gone through the whole series.
Again, that cheeky, chappy English.
It's the English charm.
Nothing can beat the English charm.
When someone's got it...
The Irish charm as well. They've got it. Oh, yeah. The Irish charm, the Australian charm, the English charm. can beat the English charm when someone's got it the Irish charm as well they've got it oh yeah the Irish charm the Australian charm the English charm I'd
say English probably could win but yeah unfortunately there's nothing I don't feel like Americans really
quite have that no that's not my vibe some people would literally die hard for that and like that is
their dream it's like having an Italian or a French accent or an accent for them like it's just gorgeousness all
around i don't love an accent unless it's australian so i just got back from myoka with
toby and it was so nice to have like quality time i was telling sophie that i feel like sometimes in
relationships it's really easy to just like slip into this thing where you don't have much quality
time and that i don't just mean like you come back and have dinner and then you go to bed i know that's
a bit of quality time but it's not really enough I feel like you sometimes need
24 hours to really like juice out all your thoughts and feelings slowly because like you
need time to actually like air your feelings yes like and you need to sometimes like schedule it
in but like as if you're gonna do that I know but this is why Jamie and I have occasionally
had a couple therapy because it's just so good to like hash out a few things and like who has the time it's essential you don't want to go home tonight and be like
we're in a good mood but I need to hash out three weeks per hour those issues now but at some point
you do but then you don't want to do it I know so we just had really lovely quality time like it was
very needed I feel like we always like on holiday but either with friends or family and like on
weekends we've got so many friends or like family again so like to actually have like four days just alone isolated was so amazing and so
needed so what happened Sophie knows I called her and I was like I'm so fucking anxious about my
relationship sometimes that flares up with me every now and then because we've gone through a
rough time in the past and I've basically just got a bit PTSD from it yeah you guys remember when
obviously Toby broke up with Melissa and obviously I think that just obviously left a scar on you.
Yeah, it really has.
So Toby has definitely basically left a scar on my heart,
which it's kind of like grief.
Jay Shetty said it's like a pebble that goes in your pocket, right?
And it never goes away, but it just gets lighter,
but it always stays with you.
And it's just about addressing and processing those thoughts and feelings. Like they actually do come up it's important in order to just carry on
with life effectively yeah Jamie and I were walking back from the cinema the other night
and he was like breakups like who's left a scar on you and I was like I don't know and then I was
like who the fuck's left a scar on you and he like mentioned this one girl who left a scar on him
which obviously I was like dagger to to my heart. Who is she?
But, you know, she broke up with him.
And like, that's obviously left a scar.
But I don't know about those things.
But that obviously is what happened with you.
Like it left a scar.
Yeah.
I don't know whether I've had that or not.
I think for you, it's different.
Like leaving a scar on someone is like...
Having it in your adult life, I would say, is different to being...
And also like when you've moved on from it,
but you then went back into that relationship. This is the other thing relationship you said to me on the phone you were like so often these things
that you get over them because you move on to a new person and it's another chapter of life whereas
you've gone back into that you're like constantly reminded of it yeah so I would say I have like
blitz of like real moments of like panic in a sense and I'm like oh maybe I just can't deal
with this feeling that I've got now because it's like PTSD and blah blah blah blah blah. As in like you worry that he like might break up with you again?
It's almost like I can't bring up that I'm anxious about it in case that makes him stressed and then
he's like maybe we shouldn't be together and then I'm like maybe I should just have that conversation
before he does that and it's this weird mind game and you get yourself into like a bit of a
it's like a rational thinking. Yeah. When does it happen? I mean it happens like every three months
or something like that. I don't know what brings brings it on summer's a bit of PTSD because maybe the breakup
happened around summer do you think it's ever triggered by like all the things that make you
stress and then that's like where you're when I'm in stressful scenarios and then that's where your
mind goes it then falls back and like my mind then goes oh he's only staying with me because
I'm going through a stressful situation he's just thinking like I'll just wait until this is over
and then I can leave her
because
that's so horrible
it's horrible
it's these horrible
irrational thoughts
but I feel like
it's nice to talk about
these things
because I do feel like
I'm maybe not alone
in that sense
no
relationships are fucking hard
they're so hard
and like this isn't on
my boyfriend
because he's like
the sweetest
best person ever
and he does everything
to prove to me
that like
that's not something
I should worry about at all so it's not really fair for me to constantly bring these things
up to him because he's doing everything he possibly can this is now a me problem so I'm quite good at
talking to my friends about it like I never really bottle it up I'll be like literally call everyone
under the sun and speak to them about it but then being away with him was nice to just decompress
and actually be really honest about the fact that I have had those things happen to me this whole
time well I guess you've been quite worried to tell him because you don't want to like freak him out and also I'm like
it's not really his fault I mean it was obviously he broke up with me but like he's fixed that now
and like you know so he brought it out there he also had things in his mind that he needed to like
share with me it was just really important I was like god actually doing that in relationships
is I think quite make or break I'm like if we didn't yeah
have those conversations which are quite rare every now and then and like really open up and
just lay it all down and move on from it and communicate your problems are going to get worse
and then you're going to explode and you're not going to make it through maybe I couldn't agree
more I think communication is key and like being vulnerable with one another I feel like I'm
similar to you like I hate being vulnerable for some reason
I can be vulnerable
to you
I want him to think
that like I'll be
fine if he breaks
up with me
and I'm not
going to give a shit
100%
100%
to the point where
I've literally
sometimes gone like
I know if like
we break up again
I'll be fine this time
like do you know
what I mean
like yeah yeah yeah
and I'm like
that's so horrible
that coming out
of my mouth
but it's this weird
defensive thing
where you're like
I mean it's
exactly the same
it's psychotic
but that's just like a defense thing I don this weird defensive thing where you're like it's horrid I mean it's exactly the same it's psychotic but that's just like
a defence thing
I don't know whether
that's like actually
like an insecurity
where we can't be vulnerable
maybe
I can eventually
be vulnerable
it just takes a while
for you to get there
and I feel like
I'm not gonna openly
I don't know if you
felt like this with Jamie
but like I'm not gonna
sit down and openly say
I almost want them
to pry it out of me
because it's like a weird
ego thing as well it's an ego thing so what did you do when you found out about the scar that
Jamie's got well firstly I'm so glad you guys the girl what I've heard this literally from me and
he was like 15 I'm like grow up but like I think he wanted to know if I've ever had that and I was
like well I've never been broken up with so maybe great freaking great but I'm like oh have I maybe
I have I think I have
basically
yeah but when you're younger
you probably don't really care
it's weird
but I'm like
maybe I'm like
you're gonna be the one
so who knows
hopefully not
well you're married
so that will never ever
ever happen
well yeah
let's not ever put that
out into the universe
let's never put that
out into the universe
oh my god
so have you had
Paris Hilton and Nicole Rich
you're bringing
The Simple Life back
okay right
I'm gonna have to be
really honest with you
I've never watched
The Simple Life I know what it is. I'm going to have to be really honest with you. I've never watched The Simple Life.
I know what it is.
Melissa, you would fucking love it.
I know what it is.
I may have watched like the odd like clip,
but I've never sat down and watched it.
So is that going to be my new thing?
To be fair, it is.
I kind of know the concept.
We were actually really young.
Like I only watched it because my sister watched it.
I think I was a bit too young.
Right.
Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie,
obviously two like really famous,
really rich kids from LA,
go to like farmyards and like...
I've seen them milking the teats of a goat.
Yeah, and they go and do these like obscure jobs.
Well, they're not obscure jobs,
but they're obscure for them
because they live their simple life
from their like paparazzi rich life.
They just sit in hotels, whatever, yeah.
And they like live in people's houses
and they just mess around
and like they're so funny.
They're so fucking weird.
But the people end up really liking them. They have like all these weird sayings like slithing
and what was the other one they're like that's it can we like pick these up i love it how she
just says that's her she's fucking iconic she's like slithing whatever you see she's so baby
that's her.
She's fascinating.
And apparently she's like so jokes and so nice and like so fun.
Yeah. And like, why does she look 29 when apparently she's not had any work done?
She's totally different.
She looks absolutely phenomenal.
And I just love Nikki.
I love Kathy.
I love the whole fucking thing.
Oh my God, the mum is unreal.
The mum is unreal.
Okay, so can't wait for this.
We've got the Simplifys coming back up.
That's just going to be freaking funny.
I'm weirded out how they're going to do it
because the whole way they did it was they were so young.
They used to go out and drink.
They're both mums.
I don't know how it's going to be changed now.
Because their naivety was almost a part of the charm of the whole thing.
And they were so naughty.
They would break out of the bedroom.
They would steal the people they were staying in their van
and crash through the bar and like go get themselves drinks
like they were wild
but they were like
son of a son
son of a son
they just like
got their tits out
the whole time
like they were
hooligans
just like if we were
Paris and Nicole
because sometimes
I think we are
quite similar
no you're definitely
giving more Paris
no I was so Nicole
through and through
like she was my fave
I need to watch it
yeah yeah yeah
she was 100% my fave.
She was, like, really naughty.
Like, what's a wild job that we would, like, do?
Or what job did you want to do when you were younger?
I wanted to be an Irish dancer.
Michael Flatley, Lord of the Dance.
Can you do that?
No.
I can tap, but I can't Irish dance.
That's, like, so quick.
So cool.
Oh, my God.
I used to make my mum tie up my hair in high pony
every day and I'd put on Michael Flutty Lord of the Dance
the whole hour and I'd dance to it every fucking night
no you wouldn't that's the cutest thing I've ever heard
you've got to have a video of this
your mum will have
you have to send that in
surely that's the fucking funniest thing I've ever heard
you would make her tie up your hair
and then you'd just stand in front
how until what age probably embarrassingly old Surely that's the fucking funniest thing I've ever heard. So that's my dream girl. You would make her tie up your hair and then you'd just stand in front. Oh yeah, high pony. Scrape back high pony.
How old and to what age?
God, probably embarrassingly old. Maybe like eight, nine, ten.
Oh my God, that's so cute. I wanted to be an actor, but I don't know if that's that embarrassing.
But I really thought.
Well, you kind of got something similar going on. You were like constructed acting on reality TV.
This is true.
You got a piece of that well i went
into acting like school after uni and then i was like this isn't for me it's really hard stuff
where you have to remember all the lines and it's oh yeah we love speech and drama melissa and i
oh wait i loved it she hated it i went right through to the end gold or whatever i spoke to
the bride today well we both did and she's happy for us to tell this story. So this is someone we both know. I'm so excited. Had their wedding recently. All the
bridesmaids have boyfriends that they've been with for years and years and years. There's a hairdresser
doing the bride's hair at this wedding. Straight, quite gorgeous, we know him. I know who that is.
Flirty, flirty, flirty, the bridesmaids are doing their hair and then
i think the morning after the wedding all transpires he had had a threesome with two of
the bridesmaids at this fucking wedding you're fucking the boyfriends have no idea even though
they were at the wedding and the bride only knows about it because the hairdresser has told the bride
and they don't know and these two girls
that her bridesmaids haven't told her that they've cheated and they're gonna listen to this and know
the bride knows the bride knows girls the bride knows you may as well speak to her about this and
you may as well come on the podcast and let's talk to everyone about it so mental and also like
sometimes we get these stories written into us right and i'm like god these stories are wild
but there's sometimes a little part of my brain that's like, maybe this is exaggerated.
Me too.
This could not be true because it's so crazy.
But the fact that I actually know someone where this has happened to,
and we know the person that's done the deed.
I'm like, this is just crazy.
Every part of my body is tingling.
I don't know about yours.
So weird.
So when she first told me the story,
she was like, he fucked two of the bridesmaids.
And I was thinking he'd fucked the hair up of two of the bridesmaids and i was thinking he'd fucked the hair up of two of
the bridesmaids for ages in this story and she was like no no threesome and i was like what
you were like i was like what's the big deal i was like so did you get a refund
but fair question like she should have got a refund for him fucking up fucking her bridesmaids
surely like i feel like it's the bridesmaids fault it's not his fault
par the deal bibbick
oh my god
I know
isn't that
absolutely mental
I'm taking that all in
it's just the fact
we know him
that I
I know makes it even better
like I'm salivating
we need like our friends
to write in more stories
I can also see that happening
definitely not gonna have him
doing my hair
at my wedding
well I'm your bridesmaid
I don't think I'll be
fucking him
I know but what about or your sister or Hermione yeah that's true but maybe some hair at my wedding. Well, I'm your bridesmaid. I don't think I'll be fucking him. I know, but what about...
Or your sister or Hermione.
Yeah, that's true.
But maybe some guests at the wedding
would slink off with him.
I mean, he must be powerful
to convince two of them.
Well, he has got with loads of people,
I feel that way.
He is gorgeous, I get it.
We can deep dive more into this
in the follow-up episode.
If you want to subscribe
to our follow-up episode
to find out more.
Should we get into the dilemmas?
Dilemma one.
Dear Sophie and Melissa, please keep anonymous to protect our pear tree love lives.
Okay.
Myself and two friends recently took your advice to go and find eligible bachelors of London. And we went to Battersea Pear Tree.
Gorgeous.
One of my favorite spots.
Not to find boys, but just in general.
We met some lovely London men. But we have an age-related dilemma. One of our friends
met and got on very well with this guy who was eight years older than us. He also has nieces
who are similar age to us, currently at university, and we have just graduated. I feel like eight years
is fine, no? We do not know what to think. Is this strange? Should she go on a date with him?
Ignore his messages.
Please advise us on how to proceed
because this is uncharted territory.
Right, listen.
Jamie's six years older than me.
I don't get the issue.
Is he seven years older than you?
No, he's six years older.
Okay, fine.
Harry Barron was like ten years older than you.
He was like eight years older than me, yeah.
He was eight. There we go years older than me yeah he was eight
there we go
speaking from existence
it was fine
but like
it depends on someone's
like mental like
maturity and stuff
like if they're in a
completely different
place of life to you
and you don't feel like
you can relate to that
and get on board with it
if you're 18
and they're 26
it's a little bit weird
so I had it
when I dated Harry
he was 28
and I was 20
and I thought
that's actually
a little odd
when you put it on paper
you're like
oh my god that's so weird but sometimes in reality you put it on paper, you're like, oh my God, that's so weird.
But sometimes in reality, you're like, wouldn't even really blink an eye.
Think that there was that much of an age gap.
Like, I think it depends on if you're okay with it.
And if you get on with him enough, the age shouldn't matter.
If the age is mattering, then you probably shouldn't date him.
But if, what does it say?
Like, love has no age?
What does that say?
Love is blind.
I just don't.
Age doesn't matter.
Age is just a number
i don't think this is an issue at all right then so melissa how old would you go like what would
be our limit so for me personally i don't think i would go above in an ideal world five years
if toby was 15 years older than me and i completely fell in love with him
obviously i'm not five years is nothing the
only reason why yeah I would like in my ideal world have this age limit is because of the sake
of like my friendship group and like merging friends like all of my friends date people that
the same age as us I worry that there'd be such a difference in maturity and he would be like like
all your guy friends are like so much younger than me your friends are so much younger than me and
it's like I think in that respect for me in my mind I would find it difficult to merge
the two worlds but I'm six years and Jamie gets on with all so then it's fine
I think 10 years is where you 10 years is where the limit is but like if I was completely if I
was 30 and dating a four-year-old I don't think that's an issue at all a four-year-old so I do
think there would be a little bit of a problem with that, if I'm being completely honest.
There's no problem with that at all.
If I was 30 and I was dating a 40-year-old,
it wouldn't be an issue.
It'd be so fun. No, it just depends on...
I feel like everyone's open to their own boundaries and limits.
For me, in an ideal scenario, it would just be five.
But if I fell in love with someone that was 15 years older than me,
if Toby was 15 years older than me and I fell in love with him,
obviously I'd still date him him I don't think I'd
stop because he's really punchy that's like 30 to 45 Toby's parents are 15 years and as long as you
feel comfortable with it and it doesn't bother you then I don't think it should matter okay listen
so the game is how old would you go okay this is wow this is just me personally. Chris Hemsworth, 40 years old.
Well, yeah, duh, because it's Chris Hemsworth.
Yeah, obviously.
Obviously.
Also, how many years is that?
I'm 28 soon, so that's...
12 years.
Fine.
We can do 12 years.
Matthew McConaughey, 54.
He's genuinely one of my pinups.
Same.
He's my man.
Bradley Cooper and him.
He's a little bit too old.
Not for me.
I'd be in there like a shot.
I feel like you have that wrinkly bum in 10 years.
I feel like he's quite tone.
An old man wrinkly bum.
Yeah, like saggy.
Like there's no fat left.
And it goes like a bit inverted.
You know, we all get that.
I'm not mad about it.
I'll go for it.
This is really bad because I'm not going to really give myself away.
Kevin Costner.
Do you know who that is?
Face of Yellowstone.
Yeah, no. No, I wouldn't. It's too much. I would like my mum to date him. really give myself away kevin costner do you know who that is face of yellowstone yeah no no i
wouldn't it's too much i would like my mom to date him and i i really i actually really fancy him on
the program yellowstone but like yeah if it came to it like his breath would smell of peppermint
and like milky tea no you know like old people always smell like a bit he's not an old person
like old man breath like he would have a bit of old man breath like he would like be leaning into
that sort of old man age
where I think, like, their teeth aren't as clean.
You know what?
I'm going to go back on my decision
and I'm going to marry Matthew McConaughey,
but I'm going to not marry this guy.
Okay, listen, Sylvester Stallone, no, 78 years old.
No.
I think when it goes past your parents' age,
I'm going to have to say no.
That's when it actually becomes a bit odd.
Robert De Niro, no.
He's an old grandpa, but I love him so much.
I would go on a date with him because I just love him.
If I dated him, I'd be incestuous.
It'd be like two twins.
Because basically we're the same person.
So, no.
Morgan Freeman, again, 87, obviously not.
No!
Why are you giving us 90 Rob Lace?
But again, I would love to go for dinner with him because I absolutely...
You love Morgan Freeman.
I love Morgan Freeman so in the grand scheme of things in eight years it's literally nothing
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Hey, Sophie and Vanessa.
I've been with my boyfriend for over four years but he's still holding on to
a jacket which his ex made for him yeah the content this isn't an average jacket you'd wear
out and about it's a denim jacket which doesn't fit him anymore and is so not his style he's been
hand-painted with designs which he definitely wouldn't think about wearing now i'm just
imagining like this crop i know exactly what denim jacket that she made in like a textiles
like do you remember you made that denim jacket?
Yeah.
He has had multiple wardrobe clear outs
yet this jacket keeps hanging on in there.
He doesn't have a lot of clothes
so it's not like he forgets about it.
It's right there in the front of his wardrobe.
Do I ask him about it
and why he keeps asking
or am I thinking about it too much?
No, no, no, no.
Ask him.
Listen, listen, listen.
I would be like,
you go in that wardrobe
and you get that jacket
and you throw that shit away.
I would literally say, it's me or the jacket. 100%. And I would be like, ugh. You go in that wardrobe and you get that jacket and you throw that shit away. I would literally say...
It's me or the jacket.
100%.
And I would walk in and I'd be like, why is this jacket in here?
That's so weird.
Yeah.
Deadpan.
Do not beat around the bush with this.
Has Toby got anything that his exes have?
Um, don't think so.
Jamie's got art in her house that's from an ex.
It's like a weird fine line with how much you give a fuck about stuff.
So, like, if my ex gave me a Cartier bangle, for example, that would be delightful, wouldn't it?
There's no way I'm taking that off.
Not because it's sentimental, but because it's a Cartier bangle.
Totally.
Do you know what I mean?
It's got a different meaning behind it.
There's something shallow and there's something nice for me to have that's actually nothing to do with the ex.
Jamie's rucksack he wears every single day is from an ex.
Yeah, but it's just a nice rucksack.
Exactly.
He's not thinking like, oh, my ex gave this to me.
Whereas the jacket you're not wearing, it's a bit weird.
It's got sentimental value.
She made it for you as well.
It's like a mixtape.
It really should be thrown away.
If I'm on it.
It's like screaming bad vibes.
I know it sounds weird.
I don't think I've ever been given anything like that by my ex.
I've like really been like sentimental with exes.
I wonder if they've ever got any of my stuff.
Oh,
you know what?
From like,
not my first love,
but like my second love,
who is an absolute pig to me.
Second love.
That's so sweet.
Yeah.
That was like that really traumatic relationship.
Kept those really deep narcissistic love letters from him somewhere.
My mum kept them in a box.
And she's like,
you know what? One day you might want to look look at these and she like puts them up in the attic
so i think my mum on my behalf from when i was much younger has kept bits and bobs because she's
like it's funny for you to look back on that when you're like really old and be like oh blah blah
but like yeah i don't have anything but if toby kept something handmade from his ex i would be
like that is absolutely but i'll get rid of that immediately. Full context.
I remember when I was first getting with Jamie.
I've never told you this, but you will die.
I think we were moving house.
I can't remember what it was, but I was going through his drawers and they were like filthy.
Full of just crap.
Full of crap.
I'm going through the drawers and I saw a letter from him to an ex that he'd never posted.
And I read the whole thing and it was like a love letter.
And I was like
do I tell him
do I not
and I regretted
telling him so much
because he was like
oh my god
let me see that
and read it
and I was like
all the feelings
are coming back
I've made him in love
with her again
but I actually felt
really sad reading it
I was like
I'm so sad
she never sent that to her
like it was so nice
and I was like
maybe you guys
could have been
but they weren't
but it's like
that was not something
nice to read
sweet boy would have just
like put it in a letter
just popped out of the bed
and gone I'll paste that
one day when I'm
feeling up to it
I know
obviously never did
I know
and it really threw me
oh god that's that horrible
feeling that you've been
punched in the stomach
yeah I was really
bewildered by that
and I really regret
telling him
so with this I'm like
do you just sew the jacket away
because like drawing
light to it he might be like oh my god I did no I think throwing it away is actually really like and I really regret telling him. So with this, I'm like, do you just sew the jacket away? Because like drawing liked it,
he might be like, oh my God, I did.
No.
I think throwing it away is actually really like,
I had a bit of an invasion of like privacy.
I think that you should say like,
I do actually think it's like super weird
that you keep this like in your wardrobe.
Like if you really want to keep it
for like sentimental reasons,
like can you put it like under your bed in a box?
I don't want to have to look at that.
Don't keep it under your bed.
That's so weird.
But he might be like,
it's just a part of my memory and like we've actually got a nice relationship still and I don't want to have to look at that. Don't keep it under your bed. That's so weird. But he might be like, it's just a part of my memory
and we've actually got
a nice relationship still
and I don't really want
to get rid of it.
There's like a weird part of me
that would understand
that part of it.
Yeah, it's like not in there.
But then I'm also like,
my initial thing is like,
fucking get rid of everything
from the ex.
Why do we need anything
from the ex?
Is it a recent ex
that broke his heart
that he can't really seem
to get over?
That's illegal.
It's got to be a childhood.
It's got to be the first love
for it to be like mildly okay.
Context is really important in this scenario.
Yeah, just question it.
Because I would say to him, by the way, the way I feel is it's like me keeping my ex's
old jumper.
Like that's how I see it.
That he gave me or whatever.
Or like your ex like giving you their old like teddy bear and you're still sleeping
with it every night.
It's fucking weird.
It's a bit weird.
Dilemma three.
Hey, girlies.
My boyfriend can't make me...
I've been with my boyfriend for around four months now,
and I love him to bits.
The only issue is he's never made me come from sex.
I have never been able to finish completely from sex
with anyone before,
so I'm really thinking something ain't right for me.
My boyfriend is amazing in the bedroom and does have a good- good size package and I'm so confused as to why I can't
finish I don't want him to feel like he's doing something wrong so I haven't told him what's
going on when he goes down on me I finish with no problems but with sex there's nothing I've
tried getting him to do multiple different positions but I'm getting to the point where
I can't fake it anymore and he's starting to catch on.
Do you have any advice on how to navigate this?
Yes.
So number one, loads of girls can't come from penetration.
Is that the right way?
Yes. They can only come from stimulation.
So like...
You're fine.
Listen, I just get him to go down on you every time.
No, but also just get a bullet.
Oh, yeah.
There is nothing wrong with a bit of a...
Don't overcomplicate things.
Just go on Amazon I'm zoned.
Also, make it nice and small and not intimidating.
You don't want him to think that he's being replaced by a toy.
It's just enhancing the experience.
So I would go for something small.
Men's egos can really get bruised by this sort of shit.
It's pathetic.
But massage his ego and tell him he's really good at one thing.
And this is just something you'd quite like to try out.
The problem is, it's like he's going to probably put it in the wrong area oh god maybe you just do it before on your own so you know how to
work there's logistics and then you just do it and then if he wants to try and do it like whatever
let him but like they tend to put it in the wrong areas in my experience don't put yourself under
this pressure if he's doing a great job going down you know going down you just let him go down
and then when you're people like at four months they've managed to make them do anything i think you're in a sweet
scenario here my friend like that's a way better scenario than like him not being able to make you
orgasm from going down yeah like that's the way better version anyway 100 100 i'd be laughing if
i were you i don't think you necessarily have to have a formal conversation with him about it
but just be like look i just don't come from sex like it's not a big deal like I really enjoy it I find it so
enjoyable pleasurable whatever but that's just something that my body's not able to do however
when you go down on me it's 10 out of 10 and we can do that more if you want go out for dinner
in Soho have a few drinks nip into a sex shop have fun with like finding a bullet in there or
whatever and then like have fun with it or just order one and be like oh my god i was listening to a podcast and the girl was saying
that she can't this is what you do he's gonna be like great he's not gonna be offended by it
yeah i never really go over when boys are offended by things like that same but also make sure you
compliment him loads on the fact that he can go down and you make you feel great with all that
yeah because that's a talent in itself.
Okay, so this is the last City Girls Summer story.
End of an era.
Hey girls,
loving the City Girls Summer segment
and thought it was
the time to share mine.
When I was younger,
I'd go out and end up
getting with a barman
who worked in my small town.
It would only be kisses,
but it went on for months.
This guy had a bit
of a bad boy reputation,
so it never went any further.
One time I was out and we kissed but later had an argument.
He left in a strop whereas I continued with my night.
I ended up talking to another boy and one thing led to another and I brought him home with me.
Things got a bit hot and after we'd done the deed, he said he'd spotted me earlier that night having an argument with his brother.
No!
I knew where that story was going.
I literally knew where that story was going.
Safe to say they're both blocked
and I'm banned from the bar he works at.
He must have known.
Sorry, the brother's a naughty, naughty boy
because he would have known
that you were getting with his brother.
Why else would you be having an argument with him?
He's obviously got some weird competition
going with his brother.
Yeah, because he's like a bad boy.
We love a good brother story on this podcast, don't we?
There's something weird about sibling rivalry.
There's something sexy about the sibling thing.
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