Wednesdays - 49. Does Sophie think that Jamie was her rebound?!
Episode Date: August 27, 2024Melissa’s had a bit of an accident this week as her need for a clean bum has gone from fresh to flooded when Toby forgot to turn off the bidet! On the flip side, Sophie’s world is buzzing with bab...y talk and wedding bells. The girls spill all the tea, especially with their friend Emily Blackwell getting engaged over the weekend. 💍Plus if that’s not enough drama, they’re diving deep into the It Ends with Us movie chaos. Are you Team Blake or Team Baldoni?And on the dilemma front, we’ve got a bombshell this week! It’s a real-life plot twist as a Tiny’s secret life as an escort takes a shocking turn when one of her clients turns out to be her dad! 😱 Does she confess to her mom, or take this scandalous secret to the grave?--ANNOUNCEMENT: Get your ticket for our very special Wednesdays Live Breakfast Event at the The Nest in Treehouse Hotel London: eventbrite.co.uk/e/wednesdays-live-breakfast-in-london-tickets-999424675107Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have one or a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma? You can send us a voice note or message using the link here.Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I want to be, but I'm not.
I'm not a doctor either, and we're not psychologists.
We're not. We're not experts in anything in anything in fact we just challenge all the shit so and we love giving
you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel
if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help
so i'm out having my matcha this morning which i never really do i'm really living like just a
lovely life to be honest i'm like really you know how like the slow mornings melissa talks about i'm
like doing that this august and i am thriving anyway i'm sat having it and walked past me
sneaky waterhouse with her baby sneaky waterhouse spooky with her baby 10 out of 10 so she glasses
on looking gorgeous smile right at me
oh my god i'm obsessed with her straight behind her judge rinder so that's the one that looks
like jamie yeah god what a flow of people this morning you saw well notting hill they're just
bouncing around aren't they i'm surprised you didn't see anyone today no i didn't see anyone
today welcome back to wednesdays i'm sophie and this is melissa i'm having a perfect ted
healthy energy juicy peach and a pool's water cbd sparkling just because it's all about hydration
and i'm having a pineapple yuzu perfect ted and we love them don't we okay right just a really
quick overview guys because this story is pretty funny sophie knows it toby comes back on wednesday
after having 500 beers with his friends comes in at midnight and i'm like oh god it's a weeknight
whatever like he's been quite funny he's making me laugh so I was like we'll let you off I have
a b-day in my bathroom I know that's like a bit of a weird old-fashioned thing I like to just be
hygienic so he takes it upon himself bless him to give a little bath wash after this pub night out
he wakes up in the morning at seven o'clock. He's in the bathroom.
He's like, uh-oh.
I'm like, what?
And he's like, there's been a flood.
There's water all over the bathroom floor.
But he's like, I don't know where it's coming from.
And he looked at the B-day tab.
He hadn't turned fully, fully, fully off.
He then goes downstairs and he sees above my dining table, like through my chandelier,
all this water has been going onto my dining table.
How much are we talking?
A lot.
Onto my laptop on the dining table onto loads of post that then the staining of the post had then like stained my like light oak dining table which was not cheap and my camera was there that's
fine my laptop has broken yeah so what do we do about that well he's gonna have to buy me a new
one i don't have content i do now my mom's like just came back on the
insurance and i was like what insurance i'm a bit clueless with all this stuff i'm learning as i go
so i now have insurance yes for all the bits in the house in case something goes wrong like that
so the only thing that broke was that but also that toby could just have a clean butt going to
bed which was very sweet of him to be considerate to have a clean butt next to me but you know that's so sweet he must have like really needed i've drilled i
think ever since we've both been in bali like it's just been a thing clean yeah i can't bet not to
like do that after i've been like saying a weird habit where i'm like yeah i don't have one in my
house but i will do it my name and it's a game changer you know what i would do just shove it
in the toilet get on those all-in-one toilets where it's just the electric situation.
What?
And then it goes up your butt.
Oh, yeah.
It's great.
And you don't even have to get off and get on the beater.
Wait, whenever you had one?
In Bali.
Oh, my God.
I'm so excited.
It's unbelievable.
You just click the button, clean butthole, gorgeous, off you go.
Because that is like a heinous thing.
It's more hygienic.
But you know what's really gross about that is boys, because they've got hairy bumholes.
So if they poo, it can get stuck in the peri. Yes yes it's called a dangleberry or something or a dingleberry what
is it called have you ever experienced dingleberry oh i think someone some other guy that i know also
told me that there's another thing that boys get where the tissue rolls up and also gets caught in
the hairs on their butt what's that called a dongleberry too you know what they could always
shave it but we understand as women the pain of maintenance of all that and if they're even hairier like a bloke also how can
they shave their arse off well i know because i think i'd have to use so that is why a b-day is
really quite essential so credit to him for being clean he's a clean clean boy but just turn the
fucking tap off and don't flood my house okay so georgia has entered her third trimester. You guys know that she's due on Jamie's birthday, right?
Scorpio baby.
So that's really, really exciting.
And obviously because of what she went through,
she's like so positive the whole way through her pregnancy.
Like she really does love it.
Like you might see that she like complains a bit or like,
it's like, oh, I look so disgusting on Instagram.
Like she really doesn't care.
Like she does love every minute of it.
But I saw a difference in Georgia when we were together at my cousin's wedding.
So her boobs are chafing on her tummy.
Like, it's actually painful.
Oh, my God.
Ouchy.
So that's something you can't even imagine.
It's funny.
There's all these things that, like, happen to you when you're pregnant that, like, people just don't talk about.
No.
They don't talk about it.
And she just craves fruit all the time.
She bathed me in fruit.
But she also is like,
everything kind of makes me feel sick.
She doesn't want to drink coffee,
so there's nothing that can keep her awake.
And at a wedding, she was like,
ugh.
Everyone went wild at the band.
And she was like,
get away from me.
There was all these huge tall boys
and I was literally guarding her like this.
Georgia and Jamie was like,
chill the fuck out. I was like, no one can touch. Georgia and Jamie was like, chill the fuck out.
I was like, no one can touch her.
But she was quite sit down vibes.
I would be.
I would also be like, oh.
You feel a bit silly dancing.
It would slightly immobilize you in a certain sense as well.
Obviously, like you're literally got another person.
It's heavy at that stage.
The whole time.
My other best friend Izzy's pregnant and she's also giving.
Doing the same day, right?
Doing the same day as my sister, guys. And Izzy has known my sister since we were literally five years old or eight actually and
like actually lived with my sister when she first came to London so it's a real three I didn't know
that they have their own like really lovely relationship oh my god so it's really exciting
and it's just becoming like a very big topic babies within my friendship group particularly with all these
weddings all your friends are engaged or married and it's like oh trying to plan that pregnancy
i'm putting a spanner in the works for you i'm so sorry you're not i think mine will be before that
yeah hopefully well you keep saying you're gonna get married at 31 in which case i will be 33
no i was just thinking if i do i'll be 33 don't i'm gonna just thinking, if I do, I'll be 33. Don't, I'm going to be 28
in a few months
and I'm scared.
27 and 28 are really obvious.
27, you're starting
to go into your late 20s
rather than being
in your mid 20s.
26 didn't scare me at all.
I was like,
I'm still really young.
Now I'm like,
ooh,
I can't really quite believe it
and I'm also like,
10 years ago,
I was 18 and I lived
on the road behind
the road that I'm living on now
and I'm like,
God, that was 10 years ago. Like the road behind the road that I'm living on now. And I'm like, God, that was 10 years ago.
Like, I can't grasp that I'm old enough to say that that happened to me 10 years ago.
When I went to that wedding and hadn't seen people from uni for 10 years, I was like, no, no, this isn't right.
I feel like I was at uni three years ago.
I know, it's so bizarre.
We were on Made in Chelsea six years ago.
Our friend Emily Blackwell got engaged over the weekend. Jordan is Emily Blackwell's so bizarre. We were on Made in Chelsea six years ago. Our friend Emily Blackwell got engaged over the weekend.
Jordan is Emily Blackwell's fiance.
I think they are such a gorgeous couple.
They really are.
And we're like mega fans of Jordan.
Oh my God, he's so funny.
Genuinely one of the funniest people.
You know what's so good is that on TikTok,
she's now filming him and I'm literally obsessed with him.
They could become a TikTok star because I honestly look forward,
I see another video of Jordan and I'm like,
because he's not on any social media.
So no one gets to see how funny he is.
He's honestly such a weird, weird character.
But they are.
I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled.
I wonder if she knew.
A hundred percent.
I wonder if she knew.
The Hanels are always done.
I wonder how he explained to her that it was a spontaneous trip.
Because I always think like, well, she might have had plans for the weekend.
Do you know what I mean?
I reckon she did though.
I reckon she did. Or they would have had plans with like his family his family would have already known that it
was happening obviously and he would have like you know what i'm just gonna book a trip to italy
should we go and off they went but it was obviously all pre-planned do you remember she went to paris
and like that was over valentine's he never thought that through because like i literally was like why
have you done that i know that's that was so mean. And everyone was commenting, like,
engagement, engagement proposal.
I was like 100% engagement.
Oh, yeah, I know.
We were both like, it's happening.
I think Emily, like, said she couldn't breathe
that whole time because she was like,
when's it going to happen?
Then it just didn't happen.
So at least, like, this.
He's keeping her on her toes, that's for sure.
I woke up so hungover on Sunday morning.
I literally, and Toby goes,
and Blackheart's engaged.
And I was like, knew it.
And brought back over. So hungover. And then I was like knew it and brought back over
so hungover
and then I obviously
properly woke up
and looked at the photos
and I was like
oh my god
this is so sweet
it's so sweet
and I've never seen
such like joy
behind someone's eyes
I know
it's like she looks so happy
it's very
we're very very very happy
we're thrilled
we got you next
so
this weekend
I went to see
well on Friday
I was like right
Friday night I've got no plans
I'm gonna watch the Blake Lively film. The name of the film is It Ends With Us
I mean everyone knows what I'm talking about because it's like the hottest film of the summer and everyone's talking about it. The press around it is
mental
Anyway, the film I really enjoyed it. I thought it was great really well done certain things about it
I felt were a little bit American cheesy. I have no idea what this film's about about but obviously I'm desperate to see it so it's basically about being in like an abusive
relationship oh god I didn't know that and there's parts of it that are really like deep but it's
kept in a quite a light way where it's very watchable but then I can imagine it for someone
actually being maybe quite triggering but then also it's done in a really good way that it makes
you feel like oh my god she's so strong and like how she like navigated through it and like
finally made a decision question who's the young mini blake in it don't they look exactly the
fucking yeah i don't understand spooky is she like the younger blake yes the actor who plays
the younger blake lively is called isabella ferrara. She's honestly Blake's twin.
Has she got the mole in the same place?
And it's a natural mole.
I know.
And they do like throwbacks and then that's also a big part of the story
because there's a lot of like mirrored stuff
between like what happened with her mum
and then what's happening with her
and blah, blah, blah.
Who's the man in it?
Justin Baldoni.
Is he there?
Yeah, he's a gorgeous man.
He's sort of come out of the woodwork for me.
I've never known him as an actor before
but he also directed it. Do we love him in in it i thought he was great in it he played
the part really well the one thing that i've known from the press or like tiktok like drama and like
whatever people are speculating a lot that oh it's quite obvious in all the press they don't do
anything together they're not on any red carpets together none of them photograph together blake
doesn't follow him he doesn't follow her anymore all a bit spooky and apparently he there's so many different things i
think people are guessing but some people said that he's like almost took his character i don't
know if it was took his character too seriously but actually was like a bit too much we don't know
but i did watch her on vogue on a cooking thing on an interview and she was like justin's amazing
like best director he brought everything to life
like he loves everyone was really nice about him oh and it's really recent but i reckon she done
that since then yeah they've been like it's so obvious so there's no way she unfollowed him on
social media for no reason oh yeah unless it's all a pr stunt but i'm like would they doesn't
feel like blake's well no there's meant to be a sequel and he was asked would he play the character again
in the sequel and he basically was like no and I think Blake's ready to direct. Apparently she's a
creative force wasn't meant to be directing it but obviously got involved maybe because I mean she
kind of like knows the industry and like she's a creative person so but I think she seemed to have
gotten involved a little bit too much and then her husband Ryan Reynolds got a little bit involved
too much this is just speculation of what people are saying so it's all a bit dramatic right let's
deep dive into these dilemmas hey Sophie and Melissa I'm 29 and I met my now 31 year old
fiance in June 2021 he asked me to be his girlfriend in August 2021 wowzers two months
that's great oh yeah that's
normal right that's good since then we have brought our dream home together and are getting
married next spring lovely about 10 months into our relationship i saw that my boyfriend had been
responding to lots of girls on instagram it was flame and heart emojis or cringy lines saying that
they should be models well this is a dump all offense to me already i was so upset and he apologized he seemed full of regret and said it would never happen again
after listening to your podcast i was inspired to check my boyfriend's phone oh god i'm really
sorry that we're encouraging this behavior but also if you found something you're welcome i wanted
to see if he kept his word i ended up in a whatsapp chat with a girl he dated before me
no in june 2021 he sent this girl photos of me she replied to them and wasn't
super positive calling me a plain jane and a girl next door no no he then responded to her
describing me as not amazing but all right but i also don't think he would have meant that it's
also 2021 he knew you for two months he literally had known you not even for two months he he had
known you for a matter of weeks because you were boyfriend girlfriend in august and you met in
june so you only just met also like boy chat sometimes isn't always you know i then found He had known you for a matter of weeks because you were boyfriend-girlfriend in August and you met in June.
So you only just met.
Also, like, boy chat sometimes isn't always, you know.
I then found more flirty messages and discovered evidence that I had met up with this girl during the early days of us being official.
He kept referring to me as his wife and her as his mistress and sent her messages saying,
you can do whatever you want to me.
The thought he might have slept with someone after asking me to be his girlfriend makes me shudder.
I can't believe he would be so disrespectful.
This is bad.
Now all of the what-ifs are popping into my head.
What if there were others?
What if he isn't trustworthy in the future?
I am so, so confused and need advice, please.
This is why you don't read phones.
I know I'm going back on myself, but you will always find something.
Like, this is from three years ago now.
Yeah, you shouldn't have gone that far back.
You got in deep.
You're asking for trouble then. Once years ago now yeah you shouldn't have gone that far back you got in deep your problem is once you get in you can't stop i'm feeling uncomfortable
because this feels like our fault i don't think it's our fault that he shagged someone else
absolutely he has done wrong but i personally if i were her would rather have not known this
having said that they're four years later and he's now engaged to her and they're happy now sometimes there's calls to go through someone's phone if you really suspect
something something in your gut obviously was like i need to go and have a look but i guess
because he like made you feel distrustful no i think there's something about when you get engaged
somebody all these thoughts start sparking you're like oh it's intrusive thoughts because it's such
a big thing you can either be really chilled or like you can go a bit crazy and i think that's
probably what's happened like you got engaged we're housed together and you suddenly like
and then that made you go through his phone and obviously what he did is absolutely awful but
i know it's not right but if you have like a fast couple of months of relationship are very
different to like when you're engaged and married do you really like wholeheartedly love love love
someone when you know them for three months probably not i think it takes a year to love
somebody secondly he probably didn't think he was going to get engaged to you then he probably
thought you know he'll be going out with you for a year he probably didn't even think that far ahead
he's made the choice he loves you he wants to be with you he's marrying you he's living with you if he's doing it now
get rid of that son of a bitch but if he did it then three years ago when he could have been
three years younger i don't know i'm not making up excuses but it is different it's not like if
they're married and he did it three years ago and he found out that's still dumpable because
they he committed at that point but he wasn't engaged to you then i think there's a very strong difference in that
agree the one thing that i don't love about this is there doesn't seem to be a sense of regret of
him making that decision of sleeping with this girl at the time because he said you're my mistress
and she's my wife that's what i don't love about this but i think if that is the only thing that
he's done and it was so far in the really early early early parts of your but i think if that is the only thing that he's done and it was so far in the
really early early early parts of your relationship i think it would be possible to get past it what
i'm saying is if you've gone that deep into the phone and that's the only thing you found i think
it's horrific but like you would have found oh god you'd find other stuff if he's still doing
stuff like that it would be very he's obviously not hiding it like you would find other stuff
i think if i had found
that toby had been like oh no i kick him out of the house she's my wife but you're my mistress
oh no i don't oh fuck having said that like if i love him so much and i'm like he's such a different
person and then maybe there is an explanation when he was like look like i made you my girlfriend
and we weren't there yet and i maybe prematurely rushed that and i'm not justifying anything i did
but like there is no fucking way
that those sort of things would ever happen now
and didn't happen.
You know, that was a one-time stupid thing.
Whatever.
I think it's worth trying to hear his explanation
and you do need to be honest
because I've done something really stupid
and I've seen something that I don't like.
Yeah.
And see his reaction.
I have to be honest
and I need to just talk to you about it
because I'm not going to break up with you over it
if that's how you feel
but we need to talk about this because I'm really, really, really pissed off and I feel really betrayed and whatever.
What I'm really worried about is that I know this would knock my...
Oh God, it would send me completely west.
It would knock my confidence.
You'd feel like you've been punched in the stomach reading that. I really understand.
Oh my God, I just feel really upset that you've done it.
And I know that we've encouraged this to people, but maybe this is something for all the listeners like don't actually take everything that's from
Isaiah's bible because you can go one way or the other you can find a cheat out and save yourself
like a lifetime of misery or you can just fucking hurt yourself for no reason talk to him about it
be like I've done something really fucking stupid I'm a bit upset and I'm angry and I totally
understand it's breaching your privacy but I found it. And I just need to talk to you about it.
And I need some reassurance.
And I'm not going to end our engagement over this.
He'll probably have forgotten that he's done all this.
He'll be like, oh my God.
It's brutal.
He might even say, we weren't even together then.
Yeah, he might think he was.
You know what boys are like.
So that is what I would do.
But I think that you're totally allowed to be devastated by this because it's like even if you found out it happened three years ago like
even if i find that toby used to like someone before he met me i'm like you know so i totally
get it no i'd be absolutely devastated you do need to have a conversation because you don't
be resenting your fiance and i think like you know what you can always like go to couple therapy for like one session yeah and just talk that out
mediator to talk it out because this is something that you you really need someone else like you
don't want to go into that engagement party holding resentment because it will just fuck
the whole thing you'll have a couple in your wedding and you'll drink and then you'll be
like i hate you and it'll end. Oh yeah. Like I really think that
I actually would recommend
doing that because you don't
want to get other people involved
because you're about to get married
and everyone's going to start
having a judgment.
Yeah, you don't want
your friends,
this is difficult
because you don't want
your friends to be like,
he's clearly a cheater.
What's a cheater?
Who is a cheater?
Yeah, it's a difficult,
unless you do know
that you can speak to someone
that would actually be
really unjudgmental
and almost have his back
but you need that support from a friend.
I think that that's fine.
But couple therapy would probably be a good thing because you do need someone to mediate.
Please follow up with this.
I personally think that you're probably going to be able to work through this.
Yeah.
And I think you've got to.
It's really shit, but you really can't.
It's not the way he feels now hopefully
but you'll know
when you talk to him
don't let this
if you're going to
forgive him
do not let it ruin
your engagement
and do not let it
ruin your marriage
and first wedding
first few months
of your being
being wedded bliss
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Dilemma 2
Hi Sophie and Melissa, I need some advice on rebounds
I broke up with my boyfriend around two months ago
The spark has died and there was no longer any romance there.
I've spent the summer at home and have started seeing a new guy.
We just clicked.
I'm excited about the prospect of something new.
I've also met his family and friends and it all seems very relationship.
But does the timeline mean that it's just a rebound?
I'm going back to uni in a few weeks and there'll be a four hour drive keeping us apart.
How do I know if it's just a summer fling or if it's something real?
I think I would go to uni hoping the hell to god it's not real and then you can go and like have freshers you can be single you don't want to be commuting four hours
you don't want to have a boyfriend not at your uni at uni like all those people who did it would
just ruin it for them ruin it makes you like a bit excluded like you're excluded like you don't
really want to go out i'm off to see my boyfriend that lives...
In Derbyshire.
Yeah, four hours away.
And then I'm going at uni
and all you guys are going out for the weekend
and you're all bonding.
You're missing out on experience.
And realistically,
it doesn't sound like you're that in love with this guy.
You're not going to be with him for long anyway.
I think there's a level of guilt
when there's family and friends that you've met.
You can always feel like you have to...
Yeah, just see it through.
But don't feel like that.
Be brave.
I feel like this is for a lot of people i rebound back to a previous you recycle yeah you recycle i think just because you know
them you know it works you know you like them getting your numbers up and i'm not saying
necessarily sleeping with them it could just be that you're talking to them and like some of them
sort of an emotional crutch because i'm very much so someone who needs that which is something that
i probably need to work on but who have you done that with oh my god there's literally like a roster in my
black book of people that I always just go back to same same same this person I was seeing was like
said to the person that's setting us up who was Ruby he said I don't want anything serious I'm
leaving to live in like South Africa for nine months or six months or whatever and he was like
she's the same she's just come out of a long-term relationship so we were both on the same page and like i was very honest with him i was like
like i was very heartbroken and i'm still like trying to get over over that relationship whatever
so i feel like when you're honest about it it's okay and if a rebound works it works
yeah sometimes you can fall in love with a rebound and that's also that's great if you do
and that's also fine there's nothing wrong with that i don't think there's a problem with like
overthinking that you've hopped from one relationship to another because that also
happens sometimes doesn't it yeah i was gonna say i never do it's always like you line up the next
one me before you've ended the previous oh my god i've done that with every single person people do
that quite a lot i've literally done that with every single person. People do that quite a lot. I've literally done that with every single person.
That's frightening.
I've never been told that or knew that.
It's a real thing, I think.
That's why I've never dated.
Yeah.
Because I'm like literally the day one ends, I'm like, I'm actually.
The next one's in the pipeline.
I'm already dating.
No.
She crosses over.
No, I'm joking.
I don't.
She doesn't.
She doesn't.
But I think as long as you know that your feelings are true, because a lot of people seem to have a lot of opinions about this and people can be like it's too soon
all that bullshit and it's like okay i understand people are looking out for me and it might be too
soon but i also know i know the way that i also feel and i know that i do like this person i know
i'm falling in love with this person so if that is how you feel good for you it's fine it's fine
don't overthink it just because you've come out better than you like still being so hung up on the accent like not getting out of bed
because you're like crying over it like move on with your life as long as you also love yourself
in this process and you're not like relying on relationships i know that i had a place in my
adult life where i was completely alone and i fucking loved myself and rated myself so much
i know i've got that within me and that strength so
when I met Toby I felt the best I had ever felt as an adult and I very much felt like I knew myself
and what I wanted and like stuff like that so I feel like as long as you get to a point you can
get to that even if you're in a relationship with somebody like it really doesn't matter I think
that's part of growing up how did you know Jamie wasn't a rebound from Sam broke your heart didn't he
I always never thought Jamie was gonna be like forever only because of his previous thing but
then part of me really did because otherwise I wouldn't have sacrificed everything I did
you just knew the way you felt you couldn't help it you were like even though I know this guy
even has a reputation of x y Y and Z, I still love him
and I can't not.
And that's why I probably
kept it quite secret
because I knew
everyone would judge me.
I think you just know.
I think you know
if you're going to have
something long term
with this guy.
To me,
the fact that you've like
written into us
and you're like questioning it
tells me maybe it's not.
I think maybe it is
and she's freaking herself out.
God, I've got a really strong feeling about strong feeling about our brains working in very different ways
today good i'm so ashore of my own feelings like if i know i know something i'm not gonna like
really question it that much i think if i was going into third year or second year and i'd
met someone at home i'd be like fuck is this really what I want to do?
If you fall in love, falling in love's epic.
So, like, why would you fight it?
But if you don't, continue having a great time at uni.
Like, he's always there when you finish uni.
Dilemma three.
So this is a very niche dilemma.
One of my best friends is an escort for quite high-end clients.
She absolutely loves her job
and I'm all for women using what they were given.
However, her mum is a very strict Catholic
and doesn't believe in any of that,
not even sex before marriage.
Because of this, my friend's job is a secret.
Her family believes she works for a recruitment firm
which explains all of the travelling she does
and the fancy dinners she goes on with clients.
Oh my God, I love that.
That's hilarious.
Her agent approached her and said that they had a new client.
This client had been a regular at a previous escort agency but now wanted to meet some new women she agreed
to go on a blind date to meet this new client oh my god my friend was sat at the table and along
came the man she was meeting to utter shock and dismay it was her dad my friend left immediately
and called me crying this happened last week and neither of them have seen each other or spoke
about it since so tinies this is the dilemma does she tell her mother that her dad is having sex with escorts
and being for god knows how long because that means she's going to have to admit she's an escort
which will break her mom's heart or does she take it to the grave no you fucking tell your mom come
clean be honest 100 that whole family is destroyed though that is dead like the mom's heart for me
this is one of those things where ignorance is not bliss.
No, I agree.
He's cheating with like younger women that are escorts.
What the actual hell?
I would say to the dad, I'd be like.
You tell.
Yeah, you need to tell mum.
Or I will.
Be honest about me, that's fine.
But this is more important, your marriage, than what I've chosen to do as a job.
If the dad.
Oh my God, the betrayal.
If he chooses to tell the mum about her, it's actually proving he's even more of a dick because that's not going to break
the mom's heart even more like i would just rather him be like look i've been doing something really
disgusting and somehow people have found out rather than being that by the way also clarice
is also an escort by the way just so to add a cherry also can i just say your friend can tell
a white lie and she can say look this is my first time doing an escorting job
and the first person that sits down in front of me to have dinner is my dad.
He doesn't know how long you've been doing it for.
Tell a white lie about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But either way, it's cheating, you know.
He's been cheating for years and we know that for a fact.
I really think that she should tell her mum
and I think we should advise her too.
But like, what? You have to just be prepared for the repercussions
I feel so sad for the whole family
I feel really upset about this
like the mum and the dad are happily married
the mum will probably forget, well they're not happily married
he's cheating, that's not being happily married
it's based on a lie
I almost think she'll know
if he's going off for all these dinners
and he was a regular i
don't think so i don't think so i've been in situations where i've like suspected things and
i've heard like the mums these are like adults yeah our age be like oh no he loves doing like
shooting and i was like it's literally not shooting season do you know what i mean yeah
shit like that i'm like doesn't add up you're not having six meetings in London every week for that kind of job.
But, like, they're so naive.
Just don't even want to face the thought of, like, that being a possibility, that it's
just, like, they push it to the back of their mind.
I think you've got to work out the mum's situation, because her whole life is coming crashing
down in one situation.
Like, let's work out, does the mum have friends?
It feels like the mum just has this, like, very insular love. But if if the mum's gonna turn her back on her daughter for choosing to do that then i
no i'm not thinking that i'm just thinking like picture your mum right now
your mum and you go mum just to let you know i'm an escort and also dad went on a date with me like
it's so much if my mum was more concerned about me being an escort than my dad cheating then i would
be like there's something maybe not quite right just like
as I love my mum I'd want to protect her like that is awful information to hear all at once
but then that's only because she believes that but her daughter doesn't believe that being an
escort's bad she's like I'm willing to earn money for my body and I don't feel shame for that like
mum I know that you don't think it's right but it's not your body do you know I mean like this
is what I'm choosing to do I'm really okay okay with it. There's been a really unfortunate situation
where I found out that dad's been cheating on you
for a really long time.
That's a real hit.
Your whole life has just been turned upside down
by your husband in one go.
Is there a scenario where you think
it would be appropriate to keep this a secret?
The scenario I would keep it a secret
would be if the dad turns around and go,
look, me and your mum are happily married.
This works for us.
Like, she's okay with it.
We have an agreement. Like, you you know this is what works for us with you know different things work
for different people then i would be like okay i'm taking it to go i'd want proof that my mom knows
i'd want him to be like showing texts of him being like to her i'm gonna be home tonight because i'm
out or whatever their agreement is yeah and then i would be like okay fine don't go and tell her
because you're just creating a really awkward situation for everyone and like you're okay with you doing that
so then you have to kind of be okay with your dad being the client i mean obviously not for you
because that'd be fucking weird but god it's just so terrible it's a really unfortunate situation
but i guess being in that industry like that could happen like your dad's mate could come in like
it's always gonna happen your boss could come in. Like, it's always going to happen. Your boss could come in.
Like, it's all anonymous and very, like, private.
That is that world.
I'm sure that happens more often than you think.
She used to go to her dad and be like,
obviously, this whole situation is fucking devastating.
I don't want to upset mum with the job that I do,
but if it comes to it, I'm happy to tell her
for the sake of her knowing the truth about what you've been doing.
You need to tell mum.
And if you refuse, then I will.
Because...
I don't think I'd actually be able to have that conversation with my dad.
I think I'd throw up on the spot.
I know.
I'd be so uncomfortable.
Write it down on an email.
Write it down on text.
Yeah.
Just do that.
I think you'd probably have to have a good maybe year until you see your dad again.
Yeah.
For me, I couldn't. I think forgiving your dad is totally up to you but ultimately if the mom's okay
with it the dad's doing nothing wrong that's for them and it's just unfortunate situation it's
really fucking annoying that they have a problem with you going into that same line of work when
they're okay with them like doing that with people that are in that line of work do you know what i
mean totally but it's like our parents always want different things.
They're just protective, aren't they?
I need a bit more context because it's like a really, dare I say it,
juicy situation and I need to dive in more into it.
Just let us know with what happens because this is really quite bombshell.
Yeah, it's a bombshell.
It's a bombshell and a half.
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