Wednesdays - 51. He’s a good boyfriend, but his friends are BAD news…
Episode Date: September 10, 2024Heyyy Tinies!This week, Sophie’s back from her holiday which included a boat trip with some VERY fit boys and Melissa gives a full Lost Village debrief.The girls get into some juicy celeb gossip: JL...o and the Ben Affleck. Is cancel culture just targeting women now? Can women not have a bad day? And what about Blake Lively—is she being unfairly dragged through the mud? AND with Oasis reuniting, the girls practice their best Mancunian accents.This week we have a friendship dilemma: one of our Tinies best friends got hitched after just a few months of dating, and now she’s totally ghosted her! Do we keep trying to stay close, or is it time to cut her loose? Sophie and Melissa are dishing out some serious girl advice on when it’s okay to let a friendship go.Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have one or a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma? You can send us a voice note or message using the link here.--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa, are you a doctor? I want to be, but I'm not. I'm not a doctor either. And we're
not psychologists. We're not. We're not experts'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and
we're not experts in anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you
guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do
feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help coming up melissa is giving
her lost village debrief we're chatting about the Oasis reunion and the dilemmas.
We're helping a tiny who's struggling with her boyfriend's porn-obsessed friendship group.
Another tiny who is battling with a grumpy mother-in-law.
And we're giving our advice on a best friend who has gone AWOL.
Let's go into the episode.
Hi, guys.
Hi, team.
Hi, tinies.
Nice ring. That's new. Oh, do you like? It's silver and gold. hi guys hi team hi tinies nice ring
that's new
oh do you like
it's silver
and gold
do you like
do you like
I like it
pass it here
also chrome nails
give me it
have you not noticed
I have I love the chrome nails
I know
guys I'm just gonna
debrief
Melissa who has been
like the nail police
since I knew her
has like decided
to get off her biop
Chrissy has done off her biop.
Chrissy has done the same.
Biop, you told me.
Make sure your nails are stronger. No, it does.
It's fucked her nails.
She's literally like my nails.
That's if you take them off.
But you don't take it off.
You keep it on.
But I've decided to take it off because I think it might be giving me eczema.
But at some point, I'm going to have to take them off.
It's essentially like having acrylics.
No, you don't ever have to.
Unless it's a problem for you.
You don't ever have to.
But then that's like having acrylics. It's the same as having acrylics. Well, essentially, yeah. So you don't ever have to. Unless it's a problem for you. You don't ever have to. But then that's like having acrylics.
It's the same as having acrylics.
Well, essentially, yeah.
So you don't ever have to have them off.
So basically, you force me into getting acrylics.
So now if I ever take these off, my nails are fucked.
Way less bad.
I thought everyone's like building a bottle and making sure the nail's stronger, don't damage them.
But that's a lie.
Mine are actually fine.
Like under here, that nail is freaking strong.
Really?
Yeah, feel that.
Oh, it's absolutely fine.
So, mine have been all right.
Okay, so for anyone listening, what she does is you...
So, instead of getting the whole biab, like, completely taken off and there'd be bare nail,
I just get her to shave the biab down.
So, it's still there, but it's thin.
And then I have the nail, like, cut shorter, filed nicely.
So, then it grows out and I keep getting that done over and over and over again.
But I did break these two in Lost Village.
I can see.
That's giving Sophie.
I'm going to get them taken off and done again.
So next time you see me,
they'll be all groomed.
When are you going to go?
Because I'll come with you.
I'm going to go this week at some point.
What other things, kiddos?
Right, well, it's just been the bank holiday.
I'm fresh out of Lost Village Festival.
Oh my God, Jess, she was a festival girl.
Sophie was a holiday girl.
Tell her.
So jealous.
Debrief me.
Lost Village.
So currently at home, I've got all three pairs of jeans,
a pair of Toby's and two pairs of mine,
in the bath soaking in like disinfectant
because there's human shizer on the bottom of some of my jeans.
We're going in the port-a-loos.
Honestly, that smell.
I know you just got to get into the festival spirit,
but like nothing can prepare you for that smell. Because are so fucked up and like no no i don't
i know it's just disgusting honestly disgusting and like when you re-wet that smell it becomes
more pungent when it gets wet i honestly go so awful so that's going on atm so sophie was
away on holiday she's been away twice i was was away, so I went to Mykonos.
Mykonos.
And then we went there for like five days.
And then we flew back home, chilled for a night,
and then flew to Mallorca really sport for bank holiday weekend.
But we live in Notting Hill, so we have to get out of Notting Hill.
We can't be there for Carnival unless we're like joining in.
You can't even get in and out.
You can rent your loo out.
I know.
People say you can earn cash. 30p for a week. Two pounds people pay. Yeah. You'd make so
much money. Anyway so we arrived last night we got dropped off at Holland Park which is like a 25
minute walk from our house because we couldn't get in from the airport. You timed that badly you
should have come today home today. I thought Monday was like. No it's Sunday Monday. I did say that
Jamie and he was like no no no but anyway I didn't
mind it I like got out I had this huge suitcase we walked through Notting Hill Carnival with my
fuck off suitcase and I was just like dancing to it and Jamie was like being so odd I was like
relax you're okay like he was like oh god like freaking out I was like honestly it's really
quite fun I was finding it really fun saw Saw everyone just, like, cruising away in their, like, cool outfits.
You know, like...
Some lovely Caribbean food.
They were, like, the proper carnival, like, you know,
outfits with the glitter and, like, bums out.
They all go big, don't they, with the outfits?
I loved it.
And I was, like, so found...
Waking up this morning, the smell is out of control.
I've never smelled piss like it.
Like, it's like walking through a port-a-loo.
I couldn't... I had to have my jumper over me to go to the gym. I was, smelled piss like it. Like, it's like walking through a port-a-loo. I couldn't,
I had to have my jumper
over me to go to the gym.
I was like,
and then I...
I will say they clear up
the mess very quickly.
By the time we get home
this morning,
it'll be gone.
It's completely...
But I went to the gym
at 7am.
And it was rife.
When I went to Velati's today,
it was all gone.
Yeah,
they were like,
hosing it down.
But all like,
the men cleaning up
were like,
this is a really bad smell.
Like,
compared to normal.
Oh my god,
really?
I was like,
I don't know what that smell is.
It was sick everywhere.
But obviously people are just peeing in the road because it was like that was the smell
I could smell was pee.
Nothing worse.
It's like your feet are sticking to the floor and it's like beer and like vomit and wee.
Great.
And I'm just putting my shoes all over the sofa.
No, I was actually wearing trainers.
I was wearing trainers.
It's okay.
I love Mallorca.
We must go all together.
It's the best place ever. I really wearing trainers. It's okay. I love Mallorca. We must go all together. It's the best place ever.
I really, really had
the nicest time.
I've had, honestly,
all of my growing up
experiences have all been there.
Like how yours have been
in Spain,
mine have all been in Mallorca.
It's a special place.
It's really similar.
It very much reminded me
of my bed.
That's why I felt so good.
Well, it's Spanish, isn't it?
Also, Melissa,
if anyone is listening,
Melissa recommended us
go to a restaurant
called Bar Bar.
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
I've never been in there
but we walked past it loads
and I looked inside
and we didn't have
enough time to go
and I was like,
this is stunning.
I did put on the itinerary
that I sent and I was like,
it looks incredible
we didn't eat there.
I walked in and I was like,
I've seen Melissa's photos.
I was like,
I see her all the time.
She used to bring the dog
here and everything.
Why did I make that one?
We did.
We used to take the dog
to Palmer a lot, yeah.
I was like,
I've seen her in here.
How was the lobster bar?
Lovely. Quite chilled? It was really chilled, really nice really nice lovely food much more you actually sorry I will talk to you about this guys we went on a lovely boat day and we got a tender to pick
us up from the lobster club or the lobster bar which is this like restaurant sounds so relatable
right now and anyway this big bow comes and I honestly was like
that's not for us
but when I say
three of the fittest boys
I've ever seen in my life
one of the guys
looked like Charlie
I was passing out
me and the other
they were in
the boys
as in Archie and Jamie
like who the fuck
are these guys
they were stood on the front
show me
I think Jamie took photos
of them next to me
because he literally
went stand next to my wife
because they were
that good looking
and gulping because they were that good looking.
I'm gulping because they were outrageous.
They come in this fuck off boat.
Beringrider tenders like a little dinghy to pick you up and take you over this huge boat like a yacht.
And they just go, this is the only boat that we've got available today.
And these three fit boys drive us from where our boat is to the lobs thing, wait for us
and then take us back.
I think I've got it.
Wait, so they were the boat boys? They were the boat boys. I was like, they have affairs with like the billionaire's wives to the Lobs thing wait for us and then take us back I think I've got Wait so they were the boat boys?
They were the boat boys
I was like
they have affairs
with like the billionaire's wives
the old billionaire's wives
100%
I actually need to get a photo
we can put it on the Instagram
because like
Oh my god
I love a bit of eye candy
nothing like a bit of eye candy
Oh my god where is it?
They were from
Norwegian
Oh sweet
They were Swedish
Okay you're not gonna see it
you're not gonna see it
No no I will I will
I will I will
It's a bar photo
Sophie's just next to him like Jamie literally went can I take a photo Okay, you're not going to see it. You're not going to see it. No, no, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will. It's a bad photo.
Sophie's just next to him like... Jamie literally went, can I take a photo?
Stan, that's my wife.
I was like, no, stop.
Oh, yeah, he's built.
Also, look at the boat.
He's a nicely built man.
Then there was a really hot blonde one who stayed on the boat.
That one was quite sweet.
And he knew he was hot.
He literally had been asked to have a photo of me in town.
He was like, yeah, sure.
And I was like, can you not?
I was like, Jamie, you're making me so uncool.
That would have been because people have never been on a boat before probably.
And they're like, let's take a photo with the pilot.
That's probably what that would be.
Not because he's good looking.
The pilot?
Whatever you call it.
Okay, anyway, so that was a really nice...
I think the boys were like, what the hell?
Nothing like a bit of a fit man to just spice up your weekend.
Eye candy is all what it's all about
it's phenomenal really
unless it's a fit girl
for the boy
then it's not allowed
sorry
do you realise that JLo
was getting divorced
I'm like what the fuck
I know
what are our thoughts on this
JLo gets a lot of heat
also apparently
she didn't have a prenatal
with him
so he's just
taking her to town
no way
and also apparently
she was like really close
to his kids
and then the minute they've got divorced she was like really close to his kids.
And then the minute they've got divorced, she's like, I don't want anything to do with you.
JLo was apparently not very nice. Yeah, I know.
There's a lot of mixed reviews with that, isn't there?
But I also just feel like...
This cancel culture at the moment is like scary.
In the light of Blake Lively, I'm just not into it.
And I'm going to really take a step back from doing it.
Because I think it's scary.
What?
That like Blake Lively's just being
taken down and I'm like yeah she does look like a bit of a mean girl and in these clips but it like
if you clipped up everything I've said you could probably like everyone has a bad day
I know what you mean I saw this thing that someone said they were like look yeah Blake Lively's like
a bit of an arsehole but also in light of like the movie that she's just made like let's not
take down a woman yeah that was a guy on the show but also like yeah maybe she sat in the interviews and it should be
bringing awareness to the situation domestic violence I understand that but like let's not
cancel her for it like let's not go into her personality and all these interviews that she's
getting like taken to town with what I'll say is I look at it and I'm like she's probably done 80
interviews on that one day and every single interviewer
has gone to her
how's your bum
and it's not the interviewer's fault
but she's also human
she's probably just like
fuck off
so ask me about my bum
I just think
I don't agree with
like being
like treating people
badly
I so agree
so then it's like
we're all then just as bad
by like
the people that are like
cancelling her or whatever
are then just as bad
so it's difficult because like I understand why people are upset about her being mean to
people it's not cancelable though right I actually think it's really scary like this shit with Blake
Lively like makes me not want to speak like I know both me and Melissa like really a double thinking
like even me being like open and honest about the way I felt about my breakup like people commenting
like why is she doing this like she's so fucking stupid like the word
I'm like what
you just can't
there's no point in me
saying anything
social media is so great
and I love what we do
but like you do
one thing wrong
and like everyone's human
and suddenly like
every word you've ever said
is twisted
yeah
and it's like
it's hard
it's just a tough industry
to be in really
because you're
cancel culture
is just like
pretty fucking scary
at least we're not that famous
so hopefully it never
happens to us but there's not much to cancel no is just like pretty fucking scary. At least we're not that famous, so hopefully it never happens to us.
There's not much to cancel.
No.
It's like, bye.
So Melissa, we're recording this on the day that Oasis have announced their reunion.
It's a big moment in history.
Okay, right.
So let me just give you the lowdown.
So Liam and Noel Gallagher had their argument backstage at a festival and then Noel left
the band and nobody thought they'd ever get back together.
That was like the whole drama. That's why it's such a big deal huge so liam and no like make
their own songs now and like i'm obsessed with them as individual artists but for them to come
back together we never thought would ever happen because they had this it was like a huge public
thing like everyone wanted them to get back together and oasis to get back together and
they never did every interviewer would like ask them and they'd like get like annoyed like oh
don't talk to me
about this.
I remember there was
something about his mum
who was like,
oh, mum would like love us
to like be friends
and like get back together.
I don't know too much
about them.
I knew them.
Huge drums.
You're out, Liam.
I don't know.
I'm not from Manchester.
I feel like we,
and also Liverpool,
I always think they're
Liverpool, Liam,
but they're not.
Our kids, yeah.
Or our Tom.
Because he's Northern and our yeah. Or our Tom. No, no, no, our parents.
Oh, you know who's from Manchester?
Molly.
Is Michelle Keegan.
Yeah, and that's not her accent.
Or my Molly.
Did you see our Molly and our Tom just bought a house together?
They bought a lovely house together.
They're doing a big Renault, sweet peas.
Do we know they're doing a Renault?
Yeah.
They're going to have babies together.
We have them here.
Right, listen, I think they're going to get engaged really soon.
I think give it four or five months and they'll be engaged.
Me too.
We're calling it.
You heard it here on Wednesdays first.
And it's going to be in Dubai.
It's going to be on the beach.
Candles lit everywhere.
Yeah.
In a rose.
Maybe a rose.
Will you marry me?
Done.
Him down.
Dusted.
Absolutely stunning.
About 100% into Dubai.
Yeah.
They're going to go on a Christmas holiday into Dubai.
They've been on holiday quite a few times there before.
I feel like it's their spot.
And remember, we have Molly and Tom's first interview as a couple after they run Love Island.
All stars.
So you can go back to episode 23 for that one, team.
Right.
Let's go into dilemmas.
Dilemma one.
My boyfriend is in a boys group chat.
I went through the saved photos in the group chat
and found countless nude photos and porn saved.
I already hate this dilemma.
My boyfriend wasn't the one sending messages,
but the thought of him being friends with these type of guys
makes me feel sick.
I don't want to ask him to leave the group chat
or to stop socialising with some of his closest friends.
However, I don't feel good about this situation.
I'd previously spoken to him about it and he said that he can't control what his friends friends. However, I don't feel good about this situation. I previously spoken to him about it
and he said that he can't control
what his friends send or do.
But more nudes just keeping center on this chat
and I don't know how to feel.
Is that normal?
We do need to get a boy on here
who's actually going to tell the truth.
I don't know if that is normal.
Nudes.
I don't either.
I think that's quite gross.
It's a violation of the girl's privacy.
Like, it's not good.
That's not on.
That's, like, completely unacceptable.
If it is girls on the internet and some blokes sending, like, I don't know, who gets naked,
like, Lana Rose, that porn star, like, what am I going to do?
I'm not going to cry about it.
Because it's out of your control.
Like, if that does happen.
Also, girls would just never do this.
Like, there would never be a group chat of like endless amounts
of like naked boy photos
going on a group chat
it's just so weird
boys are so different
I'd literally be like
ew I'm like a dick pic
not hot at all
it's just funny
that they feel like
they need to share it
with other people
and then like discuss it
we do need to get
a boy on here
to like understand
the male mind
because I don't know
if that is normal or not
like I don't know
I don't think Jamie at his age, that's happening.
It would be pretty fucking weird.
Toby does not have a group chat like that.
Neither does Jamie.
So I don't think that it's necessarily normal.
Yeah.
As in, like, everyone does it,
but I don't think it's uncommon, if that makes sense.
Like, I don't think it's something that we should be like,
yeah, it's fine, because it's probably not.
I personally wouldn't like it
if my boyfriend was on a group chat like that.
Even if he wasn't sending it, I'd be like, look, I don't like it. Can you just... It's creepy. It's probably not. I personally wouldn't like it if my boyfriend was on a group chat like that. Even if he wasn't sending it.
I'd be like, look, I don't like it.
Can you just...
It's creepy.
It's quite seedy.
Yeah, it's seedy.
Like, maybe archive the chat.
Yeah.
My advice would be, don't, like, tell your boyfriend you need to leave this chat.
Because then if he leaves, the guys will be like, why'd you leave?
And he'll be like, my missus made me.
But I think you need to maybe speak to your boyfriend and understand, like, why he's involved in a group chat like that.
It's just the constant
nude pics
it's just a bit
it's a bit icky
yeah
it's a bit pervy
I think you've obviously
had the conversation
he's been like
what do you want me to do
about it
it's my friends
like I probably don't think
you can do much more
about that
there are things in life
that you just don't love
that your partner does
but like it's not
a dumpable offence
no
I think at the end of the day
like he could be doing worse and he's not sending them them I think you just gotta agree let him off on this one
slightly but let him know that you don't love it I think that's key I feel like there's always boys
in friendship groups and some of them are like extra naughty or whatever and like always try
and influence the other half of the friendship group.
That's annoying.
In what way?
I don't know,
like there could be a boy
that's just like,
oh yeah,
let's go get some birds.
And if you don't like...
The single boys
are like trying to take down...
Yes,
but sometimes they're boys
in relationships
that are just,
you know,
naughty,
bad news guys
and like everyone
kind of like lols
and jokes about it
but then you're also like,
I kind of don't want my boyfriend
being friends with them.
And like from the sense of it, you don't like my boyfriend being friends with them and like from the sense of it
you don't like your boyfriend being friends with these boys
like their values are not the same as yours
and hopefully not the same as your boyfriend's
I've never had that in my life
so I can't imagine it
and I also think that comes down to like trust
like I think maybe like in the past
I might have had it when I was younger
but I would like blindly trust it
like if they're gonna go out
and like get what girls were trying to influence them like you should trust your partner enough to be like
he's just gonna be like no I'm all right and if he's not strong enough person then I would just
be like that's not what I like anyway what are we gonna do right she doesn't like her boyfriend's
friends what's she gonna do I've never had it I love Jamie's friends I'm probably not gonna make
it easy for Jamie which is probably not the right way to do it,
but I know myself and I just be like,
you can hang out with them, but I'm not.
Yeah.
I would not ever in my life be like,
you can't be friends.
It's just not in my bones and it's icky.
Like, Jamie would be like, you're a bitch.
Yeah.
But what I would be like is like,
I'm not going to spend time with them.
Yeah.
I think we both would be like that, exactly like that.
Like, you're fine, but I'm never going to be there. So I would do it like that. I never think it's a good idea to be like, you can't be friends. Don't try and be controlling, them. Yeah. I think we both would be like that exactly like that like you're fine but I'm never going to be there.
So I would do it like that
I never think it's a good idea
to be like
you can't be friends.
Don't try and be controlling you.
Yeah.
It will never really work
in your favor
and then you'll look like
the one that's
you're just pushing away.
Keep us updated
we're really interested.
Yeah.
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Dilemma 2.
My other half and I have been together for six
years. He proposed a few months ago and we're getting
married next year. Yay! Congratulations. Amazing. The tricky part is his mother. We used
to get along really well and we spent a lot of time together. However, over the past few months,
I've come to realize she's a really negative person. Oh no. On many occasions, she makes
nasty comments on how people look and is incredibly judgmental. Whenever we meet up for coffee,
she only talks about herself. She never asks any questions about my work, how the wedding planning is going, life and hobbies
in general. It's beginning to really take its toll on me mentally. I feel incredibly anxious about
telling her any information about the wedding because I'm worried she'll be judgmental about
everything we pick. My other half is incredible. He doesn't let it affect him whatsoever and is very
water off a duck's back because he has grown up with it.
I have spoken to him a couple of times about it, but I feel like I shouldn't consistently bring it up because it is his mother at the end of the day, which I totally respect.
I need to decide what to do going forward.
I'm all for removing negative people who bring you down from your life, but I obviously can't do that in this scenario.
Let me know what you think I should do so I can remove this horrid anxiety I feel on a weekly basis you have to change your mindset because you're never going to change it yeah also
I'm gonna say something which could be incorrect but I do think the menopause chat is a real thing
and I feel like maybe she's going through menopause no one really talks about this enough
it really fucks you up okay it can really change
somebody and like there's not enough like awareness around it totally and it can probably
like make her like just a real bitch maybe for the rest of her life and it's really sad menopause
can literally last i think like 20 years or something you can go on hrt and stuff though
you can but that's quite a big decision for someone it's kind of like going on the pill you
know not everyone wants
to go on the HIV.
I think HIV changed my mum's life.
Same.
Changed my mum's life.
But some people don't want to do that.
And people don't know.
And it takes a while for them to get
that they're actually going
through menopause.
They just don't understand
that they're not happening to them.
They're like, why am I so fucking angry
every single day?
It can really like ruin people's lives.
Like a lot of people get divorced
around the time when that happens.
Menopause is a real thing.
So I think that you might need to consider that that actually is something that could be happening yeah if you
got on with her before and then maybe she was a bit of a negative person before you never noticed
it and now it's just gone to a hundred I don't think that her heart's in the wrong place she
just might be a bit negative but you've just got to roll with the punches on it I agree I think
you've just got to like take it as it is be Be like, yeah, I see her. She's negative. Like, oh, well, it's an hour of my life. Like she's not been
cruel to you. Yeah. She's negative. She still wants to see you for coffee and stuff. And
I know that's very sweet. See the positives of it rather than the negatives. And like
not everyone gets on with your mother-in-law. Like it's in an ideal world, you're best friends.
But like not everyone has to like everyone yeah but you do in
this case you just have to get on as best you can as best you can and just accept that that's who
she is and you're doing it because you love her son and you love her son so much that yeah that's
just part of the package don't take it so personally you just don't take it personally
and just think right i'm going into this coffee i've got to see her for like one or two hours
and it's going to be really negative but i know as soon as I leave the negativity will go
and I can be positive again and like just do it for him it's like you know her number like you
know that's what she's like you're not going to change a woman at that age so just enjoy her for
what she is don't try and change her mindset I don't think you should actually ever try and
change anyone like you know the let them theory. Like, just let her.
If she wants to bitch, let her.
If she wants to say he's ugly or critical of someone's looks, let her.
Yeah, it's not nice.
I just think accept that she is like that, but also stand up for yourself.
You don't want to create like an argument or a drama,
but don't be afraid to like stand up for yourself.
Yeah, vocalize how you feel.
Yeah.
I think go for this coffee and then always make sure you're calling one of your most positive people around you straight after she also just lol about it
be like oh my god she just yeah go and have a bitch about her to your friend yeah then just
go have a good old bitch get it out of your system yeah sometimes in life like people would just
stress being like i need to change them it's like just let everyone be themselves yeah also do not
let it make you anxious just don't easier said than done you've already got the wedding to stress about like yeah get yourself in a really positive mindset before you see her
keep it brief like you're seeing her for an hour max that's all it has to be try and get other
topics of conversation that it doesn't matter if she's negative about because you're not going you
don't really care like talk about the weather or talk about politics like things that probably
aren't going to pass you know what is quite a weird reverse psychology thing if you sit down
and be like oh i've just left my friend who is just the most negative person whatever i say she
says something negative and then it will make her think oh shit well i'm a bit like that i'm not
going to say anything negative today do Do you know what I mean?
Try it.
Try that.
I think that will, like, hopefully make her then be a bit more self-aware.
I love that.
That's actually really good.
I've done that to so many people before.
What about negative?
About, like, anything that I know that they're like, I will then have a slight bitch to them about someone else
that's completely kind of, like, made up.
I'm trying to think if you've ever done that to me.
No, I've never done it to you.
I think you have before been like, oh, I've just ever done that to me no I've never done it to you I think you have before been like oh I've just left no no I've never done it to you you're such a positive Holly I feel like I've been around you whilst you've done it
probably like I've defo heard you but like it's just something like also like it makes people
like understand how you feel it's like you're telling them how something makes you feel without
insulting them that it's actually them doing it to you do you know what I mean it's like I would definitely be using that
but also you could do it in like every different way to be like I've just been with this person
oh she doesn't talk about herself there is someone in my life who always talks about themselves
I knew the next time I saw her like that's what I was going to do so I did and then it did help
no way a little bit I said I was like oh my gosh this person they just never asked me
any questions about me all they do is talk about themselves and it did help a bit a bit and then
she's not much but it the penny dropped slightly it did it did you like at least also you know
what you leave these conversations in these situations and you think you know thank god i'm
not like that because it's so draining to be around. Thank God I'm someone who hopefully lifts someone up
or like as valued in some way.
I agree, yeah.
You know, some people are like drainers, right?
Is that what they call them?
Some people are like battery suckers
and some people are chargers.
Oh, I love that.
Keep us updated though.
Yeah, please.
Just enjoy this part of your life
because you're only going to get married once, hopefully, and you to have a gorgeous time planning in your life forever she's in your life
forever and you love your fiance as you said he's great so just focus on him and being in love exactly
the focus on the positives don't don't let her bring you down yeah we did have a similar dilemma
when my sister sat in for melissa earlier this year and if you want to hear her advice on what
she would do then go back and listen to episode 35 and it was a good one so we've got a friend dilemma me and my
friend became friends during uni and have been friends almost seven years we were really close
for a good few years but now things have changed my friend was in a long-term relationship with a
man who messed her around and she was devastated with how the relationship ended but moved on quite quickly to a man who became her now husband oh lovely previously this friend
has made nasty remarks on how i am too obsessed with my boyfriends i ignored her comments because
i knew at the time her ex was super neglectful of her and never took her on dates or made her
feel special like my exes did on the night she got engaged to her now husband she told me that
she cried because she thought she was always going to marry her ex.
Oh, God.
Oh, my God.
I said that she was moving on very quickly
and that there was no rush to take the relationship to the next level so soon,
especially as she's only been broken up with her ex for a year ago.
Oh, shh.
That's for long.
That is soon.
You're only getting over someone, really.
So when she got married, I was super hands-on.
I made sure that I was the first person at the venue and that I was always there to help with anything that she needed.
But since her wedding she has made no effort with me. She always says she's busy and takes a week
to reply to my texts. Sometimes I call her and she tells me she's just chilling at home waiting for
her husband or that she can't make plans because her husband has asked her to cook for him. This
bothers me because she has made comments about me being obsessed with my men,
yet her life now revolves around her husband.
I hate the fact she's become her husband's every beck and call.
Her lack of effort towards me since her wedding made me feel like she has zero care for our friendship.
I previously told her how I was feeling and she said that her life is super different and that as I wasn't married, I wouldn't understand.
Oh, I fucking hate it when people say shit like that.
It's so patronising.
So demeaning.
Like, all it is is a fucking piece of paper that you've scribbled on. Am I deeping it too much or
is she using these kind of excuses to phase me out? She never texts me first unless she needs
something and is not there for me like I have been through the years. She's been married for less than
a year and we've only met at once. She lives 30 minutes away. Am I being dramatic or am I feelings
valid? Feelings are so valid valid i would just call her out
and if she doesn't want to do anything you've got to move on she's not being your mate anymore like
i don't know why i don't know what this happens sometimes in people's lives and there's no
explanation sometimes what's that train saying we said sometimes people just get off the train
and that's fine yeah it's so great sometimes people just get off the train and listen it
sounds like
she's rushed
into this marriage
she's only known the guy
for a fucking year
married him
she's not over the ex
she's probably just like
in this deep
like
what am I doing
I'm staying at home
cooking for my husband
every night
she doesn't want to see you
because she always
doesn't want to admit
that it's real
and that she's not happy
and she's obviously
not seeing her friends
and like
or the husband doesn't like you and she's so obsessed with him
and he's just like, oh, phase that bitch out.
Either way, let her off the train.
I think you've done your bit now.
It's so sad though.
It's worth sending a message like,
look, I feel X, Y and Z really miss you.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
See how that lands.
And you know what?
After that, you can't keep begging for someone's friendship.
And like it is sad.
I think morning friendships
is just as hard
as morning relationships
but by this sound
if you've seen her
once in a year
that's not a close friend
anyway
and you're barely
in contact
like she never
replies to your text
so you're already
cooking so much
she's not replying
for a week
and all she's doing
is cooking for her
husband at night
boring
no no
boring
do you want to be
friends with someone
who that's all
her conversation? Like she's only going to know, what have you done this week? What have
you been up to? What on Monday I cooked a mince and on Tuesday I cooked a fish pie and
on Wednesday I cooked lemon meringue pie. I'd be like, boring. It's giving Brie Vandy
camp. But listen, if she likes doing that, that's great for her. It's giving Brie. But
she doesn't want to have anything else
in her life
all she wants to do
is cook for her husband
and if that's it
fine
but you're not going
to have much fun
out of her
so you may as well
get off the train too
I think so
also it sounds like
she's like just being
quite judgmental
and annoying
like you're always
assessing your boyfriend
like shut up
also like you don't know
because you're not married
shut up
yeah like I've had
more relationships
than you
shut up
yeah you've only known this guy for one year.
Shut up.
Yeah.
She sounds like a bitch.
Sorry.
I agree.
We don't like her.
I don't like her.
Nor me.
Let's just go another year down the line.
She's had enough of her spatula
and her wooden chopping board.
Yeah.
And she's like,
I need to leave this guy.
And she comes crawling back
and she's like,
look, I made a really big mistake
and I've been a really shit friend. I would open her up. Yeah, I would open her up and she's like, look, I made a really big mistake. I've been a really shit friend.
I would open her up with open arms.
Yeah, I would open her up with open arms and just be like, look, it's fine.
Let's talk about it.
Let's debrief.
There is an amazing film.
You've got your friend back.
That I watched, okay?
That you should watch.
It's called That Women.
It's genuinely the best film I think I've ever watched.
It's very light, but there's a lot of meaning to it.
And there is no man that stars in the entire film it's unreal i'm upset like not one cast member not one man goes across the whole screen
what it's actually quite a thing like i'm thinking about it like it's amazing and it's all about like
her husband is cheating on her and how she sort of finds out and how them as a friendship group
like rally around and then they fall out a bit but then they come back together and it's i think
i've watched you probably have it's quite i feel like it was made she has a daughter yes but i think the kind
of the moral of that is that you have to sometimes let your girlfriends go through shit and then they
might come back to you she'll get back on the train and she'll come back if shit hits the fan
and she needs you again you know and like sometimes love is blind or sometimes marriage bubble love
is blind and it sounds like maybe he's like trapping her slightly
this isn't you don't know what's going on behind closed doors and i feel like if she's rejecting
you and you used to be so close like there's a reason for that i agree and you have to just let
her go on that journey by herself and hopefully she'll come back to you i couldn't agree more
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