Wednesdays - 58. Halloween Special: Jamie and Toby solve your spooky dilemmas

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

It’s our HALLOWEEN SPECIAL this week! 🎃👻We've got not one but two of our favourite “manbassadors,” joining us: Sophie’s husband, Jamie Laing, and Melissa’s boyfriend Toby Watkins. In true Halloween spirit, everyone’s in costume as the Scooby-Doo gang—Melissa as Velma, Toby as Shaggy, Sophie as Fred, and Jamie channeling his inner Daphne. Go over to our socials, to watch the clip in full.The gang swap spooky tales of haunted houses, share their most iconic Halloween costumes, and dish on each other’s biggest icks.Plus, we’re getting some much-needed boy advice on some very juicy listener dilemmas. First up: a Tiny who's caught in a Halloween hookup pickle after kissing both a guy and his mate on the same night. Have the guys ever doubled up like this on a weekend out? And for another Tiny tangled in a bestie betrayal, we’re debating if she should spill the tea that her friend’s boyfriend has been sneaking around—with another friend! Does she keep quiet or break the news?Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma send to [e-mail], SLIDE into our DMs @wednesdayspodcast--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | [e-mail]--Credits:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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we love giving you guys advice. We love giving you guys advice. Do not take what we're saying as gospel. If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. Coming up on this week's episodes of Wednesdays, it's our Halloween special. We're joined by not one, but two ambassadors, my boyfriend Toby Watkins. And my husband Jamie Lang. We've got some spooky dilemmas sent in by you and we've got some ghostly story times. A tiny with a fright who found some potential cheating evidence between her husband and a new girl from work. And a tiny caught in the middle of a huge secret between two of her best friends. Enjoy the episode.

Welcome back to a spooky episode of Wednesday. Okay guys, this is a special Mambasta episode for you lovely listeners. Right, so this is a double whammy episode because we're doing Halloween special and Mambasta episode. Okay, so introduce yourself, boys, because you might not know who's next to us because they're in disguise. All right, I'll go.

So hello, everyone. My name is... Hello, speaking character. How does... Hello. Oh, I don't know how Daphne sounds. Ah, gee. Ah, gee, Scoob.

No, that's more shaggy. Ah, gee, Scoob. No, that's more shaggy. Ah, gee, Velmer. I'm just so in love with Fred. Isn't she in love with Fred? Yes, in love with me. It's Jamie, Sophie's husband, and I'm dressed up as Daphne. And can I just tell you the reason why I'm dressed up as Daphne? It's because we all arrived here.

You girls, Melissa and Sophie, had organized this whole shoot to be a Scooby-Doo shoot. We got here, Sophie didn't like her outfit. She hated her outfit. You said to me you thought you looked like a man. So then she decided to dress like a man. So I thought I'd really get into character and just go full man zone. I had to take on the role of

playing Daphne, so I wore heels all day and I put into this tiny little suit. It's unbelievably impressive. It is. Because I could barely fit in that. I don't know how you fit in that. Yeah, I know. You look fantastic.

And you're back to your natural color. And who's this fella over here? Shaggy. Shaggy. Shaggy, also known as Toby. So I am playing the role of Valna. But who are you actually? Who are you actually?

Who are you? Vanessa. No! No! Get out of here! Wait, who are you? Are you Sophie? What?

I'm Fred. God, you're irritating. You're irritating. Oh my God. I'm Fred. Yeah. Jamie's really upset that I took his outfit because he wanted to be blonde Fred. And he had a really cute quiff going actually. He did. He had it all qu we have a few photos of it we do but can we all just take a moment how much does Velma look like Velma yeah you are I feel like we're really

accurate to our yeah you are giving also like I know I'm wearing a coat right now we're in this like deserted building and it's actually really cold there's no there's no doors there's no windows yeah and then there's a full video where we do like the intro of Scooby-Doo. We're Scooby-Doo-Bee-Doo. And it's really cool, guys. So if you want to go look at it, go onto our TikTok and our YouTube and our Instagram and you will see it all there.

Can I just ask, are we going to do something for Christmas as well? I think we should. I can't wait. And if we do something for Christmas, we'll do a dress rehearsal. Yeah, if we do a dress and you not bail on your outfit.

Yeah. No, we should just all wear the same outfit. There's just no way out of it can we just get one that covers my arse because that was really not okay

this was covering your arse more short than me Halloween is the one day of the year that you can dress up as a total slut I know and I felt like I would have liked

being a slut but I didn't feel it today maybe it was the cold breeze drifting around maybe you can feel that breeze on his I can feel the breeze what has been your

best outfit that you've done for Halloween? Eye contact, which is actually really lame. Eye contact, the white ones. The white ones. And a bit of blood

coming out. But that's it. The creative you got. No, I did Jack the Ripper as a kid when I was eight years old. But no, wait, no one knows who Jack the

Ripper looks like. It's like a murderer in a lumberjack outfit. Got you, yeah. Okay, you may be Texas Chainsaw Massacre for a minute. Jack the Ripper, but when it was like a murderer in like a lumberjack outfit. Got you, yeah, yeah. Okay, you may be Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Yeah, that's more of the vibe. Why did you dress up as a lumberjack? Because that's sexy.

I once wore eye contact lenses and I couldn't get it out. And I was like, oh my God, it must have fallen out in the night. So off I went to sleep, they were bright blue, like weird eye contact lenses. I was like, oh, it's fallen out, took one out, woke up in the morning and it had gone to the back of my eye. I looked in the mirror and it would just roll back and i was like oh my god that's spooky that's actually intense so spooky i i put them in once and it hurt so much and then i had no peripheral vision so like fuck but it but it was it was such tunnel vision that i couldn't like i if anyone would bask me i'd be like i had I had no proof. It's like my mum every day of her life.

Yeah, it was actually quite scary. It was very intense. What would be your dream Halloween costume, guys? Okay, let's say if we want to go as a duo. Yeah, you've got to go as a duo. Let's go as a duo. What are we going to do? Oh, you guys are going to pick good, I reckon.

I know it's a bit done, but you know in... You're doing Britney. No, you know... Bosh and Becks. Oh, that's a bit lame though. Do you know what we should do? It's a bit dumb a bit lame though. Do you know what we should do? It's a bit dumb. Oh my god, do you know what we should do?

We should do Up and I'll be the old man with the balloons and you can be the dog. Dog. Or the little boy. Or the little boy! I would do that. That's actually unbelievable. I would do that. Game of Thrones and I could be Khaleesi and you could be Thor.

Dral Kaldro. Fit. Nah. Why can I ask, guys? Why is there this fascination with dressing up at Halloween? It's so fun. It's just as they say in Mean Girls. It's the one night of the year where you can dress up, completely change your identity,

be a slut and it's acceptable. Or be super spooky and weird. You can just change your identity and be somebody else. Yeah. Or you can get it really wrong like I did today and dress up and think you're going to look really great and be like, this is terribly wrong what are you like the most scared of I'm terrified of murderers and because I listened so much red-handed I think everyone is a murderer I think all my zap orders every delivery man is a murderer yeah you I know you do I mean ultimately Jeff is pretty scared well Sophie last night let

me give an example she was driving back from a wedding last night and she was driving back in the electric car. Obviously, there was a drama. I mean, there was always going to be... But guys, electric car's great for the planet, not great for your mental health. Okay, put that in the tagline for fear. Anyway, what was so good about it,

she got to this petrol station and it was actually, I felt a bit sorry for you because it wasn't working, you were in a bit of a fluster and I was on the end of the phone You were by yourself She was by herself At 9.30pm

I'm in a dress I couldn't bear it It was horrific and it was dangerous actually Can I just lay it down She's at a service station in Oxford like it's the services in Oxford

and she said to me she went it's late and I'm by myself and I'm I don't feel safe and I went you're in a service station in Oxford I don't feel safe. And I went, you're in a service station in Oxford.

I don't really... Yeah, but no, you don't know who's hanging out by electric cars. You don't know. You don't know. It's a real funky mix. I just said,

go into KFC. It's like literally... I went up to Waitrose and I said to the man, excuse me, my electric car will not charge. And he said, he was like,

yeah, they're faulty. Go to the next one. I was like, I can't. I don't have enough charge. Can ask the thing okay here we go this is it because it's halloween tobes have you ever seen a ghost i felt a spooky presence where oh oh i know the story my parents set the scene your parents house okay wait i'm gonna do the backing noise your parents house yeah one my brother was bathing his newly born my nephew his little baby and it was just him and the baby in the bathroom mom and dad were downstairs and this

is in the spare room our house is like kind of like georgian old tall bit like high ceilings and he the doors open and there's like a rock or like a like a stone in front of it to stop it from closing and it just closes and like the dressing gown that's on hung on the back of the door like like shakes because of the movement and it fully just shot on him that's quite spooky that is scary and there was also something in front of it so like it wasn't like it went with the like just like it didn't just close on itself it fully went i was just gonna tell this story so it was really weird i went with the, like, just like, it didn't just close on itself. It fully went. I was just going to tell this story. So it was really weird.

I went to this wedding yesterday with my family. And recently on New New Year's, we were talking about my mum's lived in this haunted house. And I then was like, well, my house was haunted growing up. Because until I was 11 years old and we moved out of that house, I slept in my parents' bed every single night. Literally was the cause of that. Anyway. Georgia said that she used to see you like, what is it? No, so I walked. Yeah, so I slept i slept walked and slept talked every single night without fail

i used to go mom they're being so loud they won't shut up and then anyway no basically i used to say that a there was a cow at the end of the bed and it was a woman dressed in black and white i'd be like mommy there's a cow and then behind the curtains they were never drawn you know the old-fashioned curtains they just sat either side, like sort of that. But one would be puffed out every night towards me as like someone's hiding there. And then even though it was pitch black in the corridor, there would always be like just the shadow of someone walking past. And I'd open and like it was pitch black.

There couldn't have been a shadow. Anyway, I said to my mom yesterday, I was like, why did you let me sleep in your bed every night? And she was like, because me and your dad would be like right we need to change things up she hates that room like we're gonna have to move in there and both my mom and dad were like we can't sleep in that room like it was so scary my mom was like i wouldn't go step foot in your room oh my god that's and that's the room i lived in till i was 11 so in my old house that my parents like no longer have thank god um they did an extension to the house but above

the really old part of the house had been there for like a really really long time and it's just tiny house in liverfield and me and my brother had like rooms that were right next to each other i eventually moved out of that room because i just hated it i don't know why and i never saw anything but a few nights i remember being asleep and then waking up feeling like someone was lying on me and i remember being like thinking waking up coming to thinking my brother's scared and got in the bed with me oh my god and i would wake up and there'd be no one there and i was like what the fuck that's so weird and it happened a few times and i eventually moved out went back to my old room which was down the corridor and then my parents knocked from my brother's room into my

room so he had one giant room and he said the moment they did that he thought in the corner of the room he could always like see something terrify him which is so spooky me and will only just like discussed that we both felt something in the same room and until like two days ago no it's too much it's when you feel something i literally felt like someone was lying on me to the point where i was like oh my god get off and i said out loud once, like, Will? I can definitely feel like energy and presence. What do you feel in here? What are you feeling? Absolutely fine in here.

Oh, maybe it's not. Okay, right. Enough of those spooky stories. We've got some spooky dilemmas for our listeners. So let's buckle in. Okay, we're going to buckle in. Okay, here we go. This is a story from over 10 years ago i was in my early 20s and weekends consisted of getting far too drunk and pursuing the latest boy on my radar there was a guy i

liked at the time and i finally kissed him on a night out however i ended up getting too drunk and also kissed one of his mates the same night i woke up the following morning with the worst anxiety and tried to brush it under the carpet and pretend it never happened. A couple of weeks later, my housemates and I were hosting a house party for Halloween, so I sent him a message inviting him to come along. He sent a photo of a pumpkin with the words, fuck off carved in it. Sorry, he went to all the effort of getting a pumpkin

and then carving with a metal knife. Turns out guys talk. And he had found out. the effort of getting a pumpkin and then carving with a knife. Turns out guys talk. And he had found out. To be fair to him, it was quite a creative approach, but I still can't help but cringe every time I see pumpkins in the supermarket for Halloween. Yeah, that's rogue. That is so rogue.

Maybe he just had a fuck off pumpkin in his house anyway to be like cool. Sorry, do you know how long that would take to do? That would have taken hours. Yeah, what's the point of that? He was angry. He was really fucking angry. Have you ever got with two girls on the same night? Two friends? Not two friends. No, never. But two people on the same night. But I did have a girl to stay one weekend that came, I met her traveling and she came over to the UK and she was, Oh, can I come stay with you? And I got, I got him really well when we were traveling. So I thought, yes, sweet. You have nowhere else to stay. So fine. You can stay at mine. And she came on

Thursday evening and within an hour of her being there, I was like, Oh my God, this is the worst decision ever. It sucked. Anyway, I then had a charity speed dating thing, which I'd forgotten about the Friday night. And so I told her I had a charity dinner dating thing which i'd forgotten about the friday night and so i told her i had a charity dinner i didn't tell her it was speed dating it's unbelievable charity dinner getting strangers to stay it's unbelievable what a nice guy i am yeah and um anyway so i was like i'm really sorry about having to go to this thing you just you know make yourself at home turn the tv on I'll be back later and I went on a speed date and got on really well and ended up going back to her

house whilst other girls in my flat at the time oh my god and then she didn't let me in the next day I went to try and get back in and she'd like lock the door and that was quite toxic why didn't she let you back in because oh that was the other part of the missing story I told her that I was staying at my brother's house in Fulham and she could see on Snapchat maps that I was in Shepherd's Bush what a psycho sorry

that is quite intense wait how did you get back in the flat and you didn't know she then eventually I was like obviously you have to let me into my own flat

and so she let me in and then it was very awkward for the rest of the weekend wait she stayed she stayed for the rest of the weekend because you're not too philanthropic

wait does she sleep with you after that? No comment. Wait, you've had so many people attempt to deliver so you've got them back into bed and they've just not slept with them. Oh, okay. Sorry. Ow, what? Fucking hell.

Wait, wait, let's say that again. What happened? She'd be like, oh, maybe. She'll get them back and they'd be like, nah. So they'll just have a sleepover. But we've all been there. When I was single, obviously not now. No, no. You bring Blake's back back and then i would be like no like alcohol would wear off and i'd be like no

no i'm gonna regret this i just then wouldn't kiss them i roll over and then kick them up really anyway they wouldn't even get a kiss wouldn't even get a cuddle nothing it only happened to me like three times in my whole 28 years they woke, there's just a pumpkin on the pillow. There's just a pumpkin on your head. It's time to go. There's just a pumpkin on your head. And you're there going, Melissa's going, it's not, it's a pumpkin. Melissa's gone.

Just hiding in it. How did you get them out? What was your story? I always used to say I have something on really early in the morning and I have to go meet your friend for breakfast. I have to get ready. Genius. I've used the PT card a few times.

What can I... Never had a PT in my life. I'm a PT. I'm a PT. I've got a client at 6am. You've got to go. That's great. And then they'd look at me and go, this guy's not a PT.

That happened to me at university. I got up in the morning and I had hooked up with a girl and I said, oh, I got lessons. And she went, oh, I'll walk you. It was a two and a half mile walk into Leeds. Okay, right. This is a fright dilemma. I've been with my husband for around seven years, married for two years and have a beautiful one-year-old daughter. Life is great.

However, my husband has recently gained a new friend. Earlier this year, a new girl started his work. He would talk a lot about his other colleagues, but he would either avoid mentioning this new girl started his work he would talk a lot about his other colleagues but he would either avoid mentioning this new girl or move on quickly whenever she came up in conversation obviously this made me feel a bit strange i know i shouldn't have but i had an overwhelming urge to check his phone so i did and i found back and forth conversations with this new girl where they would chat non-stop every single day it made me feel uncomfortable that he was getting to know her and so I brought it up.

He said she's just a friend from work and that he hardly sees her. I left it for a bit and then checked his phone again. There were messages galore. They sent each other songs which made them think of one another and one of the messages said, let's drive off into the sunset listening to the vibes. I found messages where he arranged to go for dinner with this girl but he told me that he was busy seeing a male friend

from work so lied to me about his true plans with our new baby our relationship is different to how it used to be i worry that i might be the boring wife especially this new girl is only 23 he sent her a meme with the caption vibing with someone just as weird as you because no one else gets it. No. I feel like I'm no longer the fun, weird one that he is super funny with. And now it's the new girl. Well, he's cheating on you. Sorry.

This is an affair. I mean, I understand because there's a complication because you've got a child, right? But he's cheating on you. So I'm not sure you. He's emotionally cheating on you. No, no, no. Without a doubt. He's going for dinner with her.

Oh, the tobes went in there. It's true, it's emotional. What is worse, emotionally or physically? I think they're both the same. Both the same for me. So hang on, so if your husband or partner goes out and they sleep with someone... It's the same as sometimes.

But if they're messaging, I would say that feels to me... Like if someone goes and they sleep with someone, I get it, maybe they I get it maybe they were drunk or maybe they were something or maybe there was something going on wrong choice if you're actually messaging someone and I think I could maybe forgive that. No what you're saying is a one-time shag is very different to an affair that's cheating and then there's an affair is the long thing yeah if you're sleeping with someone for a long length of time or you're messaging someone they're the same. If she found out that he had shagged this person but there were no messages it would be but if he hadn't

shagged her but there were these messages okay well let's just call it what it is because he sounds like he's in love with her because he's messaging her and going out for dinners with her so i think he's doing both and like sending songs that mean they're doing and the weird people who vibe together is like a dagger in the heart it sounds like they're in love i know this is horrible but it sounds like your husband is in love with this 23 year old what i. Well, look, what I think's probably happened is, you know, you've had a baby and it is what it is and it's really awful, but you've had a baby, your relationship's taken a backseat because, you know, the baby comes first,

you're not probably having enough sex enough or your attention's on the baby and he has been strayed by this 23-year-old, which really unfortunately happens more than it should and you either decide like he comes to his senses and you decide you want to fight for it with the baby and you go get therapy and he can't speak that girl maybe he's got to change jobs or you're like he's a cheat and you're not going to get over it and you have to leave it he also might turn around i don't

want to say this but like if you confront him he might actually turn around and be like actually i'm really in love with this girl and like and i'm sure he is at this moment in time okay right let's ask as a boy's perspective right if it's just about like sleeping with someone right you wouldn't be messaging them like oh this is us like you get me like no one else blah blah blah right i don't know that's more like you would be so into it if you're saying you're in love with someone yeah i think that's like you're in love there's an emotion i don't i'm not sure i think she's how old are they she's 23 this new chick maybe there's a part of I'm not sure. I think she's, how old is she? She's 23, this new chick. Maybe there's a part of me

which thinks she's 23 and he just wants to get laid. Sorry. Well, maybe that is it. Let's hope that's what it is. He's just like leaning into it. He's just like, it's exciting.

I think he just wants to get laid. And from a guy point of view, I would think, okay, he obviously married that person. They have a kid. There's lots of love there. He obviously didn't expect

the changes in his life that's going to happen when it comes with a kid. He's lots of love there. He obviously didn't expect the changes in his life that's going to happen when it comes with the kid. He's at work. He wants a bit of like something on the side. He's flirting with this young chick because she's probably hot and all that stuff. Yeah, but it's not okay. What I think is men, right?

Girls don't do this. Men really mistake fancying someone for being in love with someone. Girls don't. We're like, he's fit, but we don't fall in love. Men are like, oh my gosh, she's so fit. and the fact that he can't have her because he's married and got this kid he will be mistaking that for love but all it is is lust like he fancies his 23 year old and that's gonna probably happen in life but he needs to be he's followed through with it yeah

he's in the wrong to me that's enough oh god it's like that's a dumpable offense like that's horrific what you've already found. Don't think I have to stay with him because I've got a baby and I'm married. You're not trapped. Yeah, you can fucking leave. Like, this is not right. You're not being treated the way you should. How fucking dare you?

You've just had a baby and he's fucking a 23-year-old. No. It's really disgusting. I would not be able to forgive that. No, but what I would do is I would definitely tell him, you know, and, like, you don't need to find concrete evidence. That is concrete evidence. Yeah, like, this is not okay and don't let him gaslight you and and like, you don't need to find concrete evidence. That is concrete evidence. Yeah.

Like, this is not okay. And don't let him gaslight you and be like, oh my God, we're just good friends. Like, no, you're fucking not. It's inappropriate on another level. Oh, fuck. You know what? It's such a giveaway. How he doesn't want to speak about her.

Like, for me, that is such a giveaway. Yeah, that's a great time. So she was like, normally he speaks about his colleagues Quite a bit But like he won't Ever speak about This new girl Yeah because he's like Almost Because he's been Doing something naughty

Or he feels A certain naughty Type of way Otherwise you'd be like Oh my god This is 23 year old girl Like oh I'm a bit Of eye candy

For the office Like you joke about it Right with your partner And you talk about it Normally but she's like Yeah you're so right He's hiding it Like it's like

This big secret He's feeling awkward Because he knows He's doing wrong. God, you guys are quite good at understanding these things. Girls are good. Girls are good. You know when someone doesn't say something about something, you're like, they're hiding it.

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Guarantee requires play by at least one customer until jackpot is awarded or 11pm Eastern. Restrictions apply. See full terms at canada.casino.fandu.com. Please play responsibly. I have this secret I've been told and I don't know what to do with it. I'm in my final year at uni and have been best friends with two girls who I met in freshers. They both feel like they'll be my forever friends. Friend one has been with her boyfriend for nearly five years. They're so cute together and he gives her everything.

Dates, holidays and even a house that they're moving into when she graduates. Then there's friend two. She's been with her boyfriend for over a year. They argue all the time but still seem close. Earlier this year, friend one pulled me in the bathroom and told me that she'd slept with friend two's boyfriend. No. She swore me secretly and made me promise

that I would never tell friend two. She also said that she'd never do it again so I kept it secret. I thought it was the end of the drama but I later found out that friend one had been secretly seeing friend two's boyfriend after drunken nights out when friend two wasn't in the city. So it's been more than once. These drunken nights started out to turn into sober meetups.

Friend one told me it was just sex and was pretending to her boyfriend like nothing happened. The guilt of knowing this secret is becoming too much, especially now we're back at uni and friend one and two are living together for a final year. I don't believe it. I don't want to be a bad friend to friend one, but by betraying her, trust and telling friend two, but then there's not telling friend two,

I feel like I'm betraying our friendship. Do I just have to stay out of it completely? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Stay out of it. She's assisting the crime. Yeah.

Just as much as, just as bad as the fucking crime, if you ask me. Velma, you couldn't be more right. Look, listen. Friend two's going to find out and then when she finds out you knew all along, she will never talk to you ask me. Thelma, you couldn't be more right. Listen, friend two is going to find out. And then when she finds out you knew all along, she will never talk to you again. And also, that's too much on anyone's back.

Let's give some clear instruction. I would go up to friend one and I would say, friend one. I need to tell her now. You tell her now. Or I will. I'm telling her tonight and you've got a deadline until 6pm. Yeah, you've got until midnight. I would go down a different route.

All right, go on then, tell us. I bet you would. I feel like we're being attacked, Shaggy. I feel like we're being attacked. No, what I would not protect, what I would do is I would say, look, this is obviously not a good idea. Something's not quite right here. I think you should tell her.

Because it's going to come up. Yeah, but don't give her a time limit or anything like that. At least you'll never fucking do it. What? I like an ultimatum. I like a deadline. You like a deadline? I think I always believe in those situations.

If you don't tell them by the end of next week, I'll do it. Have you ever done that? No. But I've never had to. But I would do if I had to. Yeah, I would. Have we ever been in this situation in real life? I'm just trying to think.

I don't think I have. I've been in a situation with a friend years and ago years ago i i said look you you should probably say something he did he didn't say anything but i said but i said look i i said because i saw potential with the couple already i have to i saw potential with the couple so i was like look if it's a one time thing fine like just do it and the person was like yeah fine it's the one time thing i was like i won't say anything but if it happens again then you probably need to say something I had it with a friend and um I woke up in the morning and I was like this happened and you need to tell your boyfriend now because I just think with those sorts of things that it's gonna get out anyway

and like I knew that these people loved each other and I was like I can back you up and be like I know that this wasn't meant to happen. You know what I mean? I got cheated on and my friend didn't tell me and I read a text off her phone saying, does Sophie know? And I was so angry with her. I was like, I can't believe you didn't tell me.

That same friend. But. I think you can remain friends. Maybe you need to just tell her she's having a weird moment and you need to be like, do you realise what you've done? And she might be like. But now it sounds like a full-blown affair and they're in love so it will get complicated isn't there a part of them that's probably that they're just doing i don't know it's all very messy i'm not i'm not i'm just trying to i just

sometimes always think that getting involved in those situations is like but she is involved being told and now she feels like but do you not feel like she will then feel like a liar when she goes and sees the sweet friend who thinks she's been with her now she feels like but do you not feel like she will then feel like a liar when she goes and sees the sweet friend who thinks she's been with her boyfriend for all this time and they're in love

and she goes and sees her and they're moving in together and she's like oh but I know my other friend's fucking your boyfriend do you know what I mean that's really mean you need to say something

and I think you can stay friends with both of them as long as friend one takes accountability and is like I know I've done wrong give us a follow up because we really

want to know what's going on and we feel for you but you've got to just follow your moral compass at this point because this is morally incorrect yeah agree agreed oh secret male listener here i got into a podcast because my girlfriend would listen to you all the time unfortunately we broke up earlier this year sorry but i'm still listening and would like your advice i was with my ex for six years. However, after we moved in with each other, we realized that things weren't right. So decided to amicably end the relationship. I moved out and she has moved on and I genuinely wish her all the best.

I'm now at the point where I'm ready to start afresh too. But I feel like I've lost my mojo. The dating scene has changed a lot since I was last single. I never had Hinge or Tinder and i'm lacking a bit of confidence i'm looking for something serious but worried about coming across as too intense or desperate do you have any tips on how i can nail the first date what do girls look for what kind of places should i suggest and how do i make sure i don't give them the ick do you want to kick things off shaggy shaggy so shaggy's advice would be don't go too dressy on the first date. Yeah.

There's nothing worse than when you do like, I think the first date should be quite low key. Sorry, as in like what you're actually wearing. What you're wearing. Don't wear a suit. No, no. Don't go. What you want to wear. As in don't try too hard, right?

Oh yeah, it's a male. Sorry. Yeah, it's a guy. Okay. Don't plan anything too formal for the first date. Yes, agreed. Don't think like, oh, I need to wow her and I need to find this amazing cocktail bar. Because that can be a key.

This amazing, like, I'm going to take you to the Woolsey. You've got to just go chilled. Right. So I want to know, going back, even though this is a tangent, you were talking about what you don't like a girl to wear. Yes. And I'm interested on what you don't think a girl should wear. Okay, so I forgot there was a male listener.

I once had it where a girl wasn't from London. She turned up and we went to like the pub and she was wearing like knee-length boots and like a little short little skirt and a blazer i like a more low-key outfit you know so i don't have a low-key pub you don't want to go in heels when everyone's in trainers and trackies vibe gotta give them a dress code though right as a guy stay true to yourself i think sorry fresh pair of trainers not dirty trainers you did Nothing worse than a pair of fucked Air Force. And I've worn that a few times, so I hold my hands up. Really?

That much detail? I would not wear a bloody Air Force. You've got to be having either box fresh white trainers or like a nice pair of white trainers or normal colored trainers. Nice fitting trousers. Clean clothes. And then a cool jacket and a t-shirt. And like one thing I will say is boys are really bad at doing their washing their

clothes and what they do is they put them in the washing oh you don't have that and then they don't take them out when they're wet and dry them so they just dry in there and they come out and they stink of damp and that i've noticed this is all boys because you don't know how to wash your clothes and it stinks but that damp smell really goes through me and I've never seen a woman with it but I've seen many men

it's so true also a white t-shirt that's no longer white a bit yellow a bit grey you can tell it's like yeah

nothing better than a crisp white t-shirt oh lovely I'm going to give some solid advice don't be afraid

to get on the apps get on the apps do some window shopping get out on a few dates

get yourself being like really good at dating the weird of the better get really good at dating just train yourself up keep it lowder, the better. Get really good at dating.

Just train yourself up. Keep it low-key. Don't do any of this bougie shit for the first date because it is just icky. Like, don't take me to, like, what is, like, a really fancy place or monkey house. Like, not that vibe. Yeah, I agree with you, Melissa. None of these monkey houses, none of these, like, flashy bars, sexy fish. Ooh, ooh, ooh.

Go. Actually, on our follow-up we go through a list of like low-key restaurants and bars and pubs that we kind of like cozy vibes trying not to give someone the ick is going to give someone the ick listen if they don't fancy you they're going to get the ick with you no matter what you do no matter how cool you are if they fancy you no matter how icky you are they won't get the ick like toby on our first date ordered a custard cream it came on the side of his cocktail it was death i didn't order it was so icky but because i fancied him so much i was like it's so fine i ordered a cocktail and it came in

a teacup with a custard cream it was a lemon flavored cocktail that i thought was going to be nice where'd you go cocktail chemistry bar or something no little yellow door and you had a custard cream also on when you book it on open table as an option for like is it a special occasion and i clicked first date no you didn't so the guy the bouncer like sputtered me on the way in and then when melissa came in went he's on the right i was just standing in the corner dead that was the best thing i've ever had the third date toby toby stood and toby stood in a giant dog poo on the third day we're leaving his in the morning walking to the tube he stumbled and stood in this giant dog shit and then watching him trying to get it off and it was like oh no oh no and i was just going it's the worst thing i've ever seen oh my god but do you know

what I mean so like that's so icky but it didn't ick me up because I fancied him so listen if she does if she gets sicked out by you

like she doesn't fancy you they were on a really nice pair of trainers as well that were like suede and I was fuming

yeah I'd be fuming as well I get it buddy boys give me what your biggest icks are Jamie I know what yours are what are mine honey

yours are hair extensions oh yeah I'm not a honey yours are hair extensions oh yeah I'm not a big fan of hair extensions coming from a person wearing a wig yeah

but I you know I like it's just my preference and like really dressed up like fake tan

even though you and me both wear fake tan that's not really like that's not really an ick dyed hair

yeah dyed hair what's an ick oh I don't really like Miles said he really can't do get with girls if they've got worse shit than his fake tan, which, by the way, Miles,

let me tell you, every fucking girl that you're getting that is wearing fake tan, you just don't know it. But I know what he's saying. He's like the bad fake tan on the hands and, like, around the ankles, and it looks really, like, orangey and fakey.

I know exactly what he means. I know the vibe he means. Do you know what? I haven't been on the dating scene forever, so... Well, scale that brain back. Okay. What icked you out about me? What icked me out about you?

I'm not a big fan of like over, over dressing. Yeah. Like every day. Basically all the time that I do. No, but if you're going to a red carpet, it's appropriate, right? I'm not a big fan of, if someone's really, for me, if someone is spending hours and hours and hours getting dressed every morning because it's like some sort of photo shoot every day. Someone that's super high maintenance.

Yeah, I'm just not. I think I'm quite a dressy person. No honey. No you're not. You're not. You're a sheep. You put some jeans on and a top and you're out. Okay Toby over to you. Okay two things. One is when the laces are done really tightly on a pair of shoes. That's so niche. You know when someone like really tightens the laces like a big bow and the bottom of the shoe is gone all out. I don't like that. And when people sing the lyrics to a song wrong. That's me.

That is me. I am your biggest it. That's me. I'm your biggest it. I'm your walking big it. I'm real tight and I sing lyrics wrong all the time. We're not hooking up.

Actually, maybe that's quite endearing. I don't know. What? Singing the lyrics wrong. I think I probably do that quite a bit. Yeah, you do. But you that quite a bit but you're in there because i've had it before where i thought guy was so gorgeous and i had like dated him a little bit before and then he was vaping so much in my house and in my bed and i was just like oh so vaping in bed not for me they're all like really artificially smelling and tasting and i think they're the most disgusting thing ever.

I can never understand why people like them, right? And I know everyone loves the vape, but it was just overpowering my whole bedroom. And it smelled like fake artificial. And everyone knows I work really hard to keep my air really clean. And my air purifier was going on overdrive. And I couldn't bear to kiss him. And I was just like, it's the worst thing I've ever seen. And he woke up in the morning and was just and I was like

can't bear it so vaping for me is actually a big ick things in bed actually I don't like eating in bed oh yeah eating in bed for me is a bit

we've done that a few times hungover and then you're like eating in bed I'm not good at like that gives me a bit of an ick also when you take a bath this is

I actually put this on my TikTok once do you sit in the bath and let it run around you or do you get in a fully that's bizarre i do that i sit naked like i sit like a barge in the thames and you just go up slowly i sit naked in a bath and then i run it i know then i run it guys sit naked i sit naked yeah i do and then i let it. Do I sit naked? I sit naked. Yeah, I do. And then I let it run around me. What it aches me out about you,

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