Wednesdays - 60. We CLASH on whether dating a best friend’s ex is off limits…

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Heyyyy Tinies,Surprise! Georgia Habboo makes an unexpected visit to see Sophie and Melissa. At the time of recording, she was just five days away from her due date, and Georgia talks about what the final week of pregnancy is really like, from almost-contractions to cervical sweeps, and discusses some of her favourite Mum-style icons.We also dive into your dilemmas – is dating your best friend’s ex-boyfriend ever OK, or are they totally off limits? The girls have some very different opinions on this one – and have a juicy conversation about girl code!Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/ If you have a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma send to [e-mail], SLIDE into our DMs @wednesdayspodcast--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | [e-mail]--Credits:Producer and Editor: @ben_johnsAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help coming up on this week's episode of wednesday's surprise george my sister's here and she's here to help with your dilemmas. We are asking if a best friend's ex is ever off limits, and the three of us have very different opinions on it. And we're also helping out a tiny who's asking if a guy she's seeing is actually interested

or just a walking red flag. We're also inspired by Alison Rae's rebrand and Melissa's chatting about who her current star lens is. Gabrielle, watch out. Enjoy the app. Hello, listeners. Hello, my Wednesdays. Hello.

We have a very fun surprise. It's Georgia Haboo. It's just knocked on the door. It wasn't meant to be here. Let's explain why. I'm on my mat leave and I'm so bored. So I just said, what are you doing? She said, I'm recording. I was like, oh, I'll pop in and say hi. just said what are you doing? She said I'm recording

I was like oh I'll pop in and say hi and then How many days until you do? Like four five but I'm hoping

she's going to come on Friday because I've got an appointment on Friday and I'm going to get them to do that sweep So what's the sweep explain it So well they can only do

if you're dilated a bit but hopefully I should be by then could be now I'll never know Well you did just say that you think you were having contractions

I did which sent me into a panic attack I had one really painful like something happen and then I carried on walking and then I had later like an hour later

it was just like tight but it didn't hurt so I don't think it was and I would have had another one now you would have had another one yeah I don't think you have

contractions that far about hours is it hours you can like right at the beginning but they could also be Braxton Hicks now. You would have had another one. Yeah. I don't think you have contractions that far apart. Ours. Is it ours? You can like right at the beginning but they could also be Braxton Hicks. For fuck's sake. I'm already hot as fuck. But yeah the sweepers then they just put their hand up there and. The actual hand? Yeah.

The whole way in. Yeah and then they like separate the fluid suck. I don't really know. Have you ever been fisted sorry I just no sorry because I just realised that that obviously

is the same thing because I've always obviously that's never happened to me how does it even fit up I don't think fisting's not a thing yes it is Melissa

a girl at my school was saying to everyone that she got fisted who there is no way that would go up your vagina if you're not pregnant

are my hands really small? No, that would... That is not going... Sometimes a willy hurts. I know. Yeah, there's no way. But I reckon girls, write in, because I think it's a thing. You guys have given fish.

I bet boys will try and fish you. Oh, my God, that's disgusting. Oh, my God. Right, anyway, so we've got this lovely, lovely surprise, but we're just going to have a normal episode as normal. Also, just to say that we're recording this, obviously, like, this is going to be in the future because Georgia might have had the baby

by the time this podcast comes out. Instead of getting induced, if I'm really late, I'm getting a C-section scheduled for the 12th. So it could be the day before, but if I'm that late, I will be unbearable. I was a week late coming out. A week. A week I could deal with.

I was three. Three weeks late? Yeah, and I was £10. I was £10. I was under £7 and I was a week late coming out a week a week I could deal with I was three three weeks late yeah and I was 10 pounds I was 10 pounds I was under seven pounds and I was a week late how tiny tiny baby no I was under six pounds I was five ounces what I was five something I was that was double your size mom I came out and I was the same size as Georgia and she was two years old shut up I swear mom said I was the mum said I was the same length. I was the same length. Your poor mum. Fuck me. She ripped some pant back. We must have saved it.

Oh, Sophie. She had a C-section of me, but she had a vagina with Sophie. She was 10 pounds. Little Georgia was like seven, normal. No, I was actually eight. My in-laws keep guessing how big the baby's going to weigh.

I know, they've guessed with me. I know, and they keep saying giant sizes. I'm like, no, can we not manifest that, please? Oh my God. I said £7.10. I know, I liked your answer.

I saw it. Thank you. Right? I think it's nice. What size do you think? I have no idea. Yeah, I reckon seven.

It's a girl. £6.08 maybe. Girls are normally a bit smaller. Around £6, I reckon. Not quite. Between six and seven,

I'm going to say. I've got quite a sizable bump. Yeah, but you have been sizable from the beginning. Actually, when she got measured, she's average. Apparently, that's quite a lot. Okay, so I'm going to say between six and seven.

Me too. Thanks, guys. I appreciate that. I also just have to touch on when I was walking here, walking down Oxford Street, this tiny dog, this big little cock-a-cava-poo thing, really gorgeous,

runs between my legs. On Oxford Street, obviously, it's filled with people. I'm like, what the fuck? Everyone turns and looks at this dog and is like, what the hell? Like, what is this dog doing? Not only nothing, like running, obviously lost.

It was so scared. And then like two minutes later, this woman runs past me like, has anyone seen a dog? It was chaos. She's running down Oxford Street trying to find the dog. I don't know where the fuck it went.

I don't know if she found it. And I followed her for ages. And I walked out of my way because I had enough time just to see if she found the dog. And I didn't get to see where she went or where the dog went. If you were that lady with the curly hair with the lost, like, cavapoo thing on Oxford Street, please tell me if you fucking found the dog. Because I was so stressed and I got really upset for her. Because I was like, no, that tiny pooch.

And it was so confused. Why didn't you pick it up? You don't know. It also happens really quickly. And everyone looks at it like, where the hell? And it was running. Was it young or old? It looked like it was, like, a grown. It wasn't you pick it up? You don't know. It also happens really quickly and everyone looks at it like whether or not it was running. Was it young or old? It looked like it was like a grown, it wasn't a puppy. But it was still really

little. And I was like, oh my god. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Anyway, so please tell me if anyone knows anyone who knows anyone who knows who this person was, please write in and tell us if you found the dog. I saw a little like Jiggy outside Mayflat the other day. Sorry?

Jiggy is Lisa Vanderpump's old dog that died. And it's a Pomeranian with alopecia. And this little one had alopecia. It was completely bald, but just with the little hair and it was wearing a little outfit. And I was literally all over it like a rash. And then I got a DM from the dog's Instagram. No fucking way.

What? Saying, hello, you saw me today. Can I get a follow? That is creepy as fuck. I didn't follow it back. But the guy walking the dog was like, so not the guy you'd expect to be creating an Instagram. How many followers?

Not many. And I didn't follow it back. But if I do see Jiggy look alike again, maybe I'll follow you the next time. Oh my God, sorry. That'll be the start. That's slightly creepy. But it was weird because I was just on my way to the Real Housewives thing

and I was like, this is serendipity. Okay, right. Should we go into some of these things? Because we have got to talk about Addison Rae in the revamp. This comeback, the revamp. Have you noticed, seen? I haven't either. I have.

Apparently she's trying to be like Britney Spears. I've not seen any of it. Can I have a picture? Right. I've noticed her outfits are weird. She's like Britney Spears. I have. Apparently she's trying to be like Britney Spears. I've not seen any of it. Can I have a picture? Right. I've noticed her outfits are weird. She's like just changed herself. She obviously was this like TikToker. Do you remember she was best friends with Courtney Cardigan?

I know. That was really weird. Oh God. She looks much better. She looks great. The mermaid outfit. Tom Brown. I like that.

She's in cool events. Like her music's made a huge comeback. Like obviously Diaper Pipsy went everywhere. There's another one called Aquamarine or something. Like she's releasing songs that like her music's made a huge comeback like obviously Diaperpsy went everywhere there's another one called Aquamarine or something like she's releasing songs that are doing really well

guys I'm loving her I think she's amazing at the Academy Museum look I know she looks amazing amazing everyone commented like how the fuck

did she get invited to that people are being really mean she's got 34 million followers do you remember she was on the Kardashians quite a lot yes look what's happening

she was probably like 12 and now she's grown up and she's like, got PR. And they're like, let's get you. Got a good stylist. Got a good stylist.

Speaking of like, rebrands and stuff, so have you seen this? I know, you drive me, tell Georgia because it's so funny. So,

do you know this girl called Gabrielle? I think she's really cool. She is very cool. She's like the original brat. You know, like the whole brat summer thing cool. She is very cool. She's like the original brat. You know, like the whole brat summer thing. She's the original one. She's got these really thin, I don't know if they're bleached or if they're just super thin.

She's engaged to Matt Healy. I just think she's so cool and sexy. She is cool. She is really cool, but Melissa, go on. I'm like, I just kind of want to bleach my hair and pluck out all my eyebrows. Chip my tooth. She got a chipped tooth so she called me the other day and said she was very close to asking for very thin eyebrows and I said I did thin them out I did thin them out I told you I thinned them out she literally plucked two eyebrows out extra yeah that's fine no no no no

I'll tell you what happened it actually wasn't to do with Gabrielle. I was looking at Bella Hadid and Bella Hadid's eyebrows are literally one hair. And I thought... Yeah, they used to be even thinner. And then I used to have really thin eyebrows and I suddenly thought,

right, well, that's it. So I did thin them out quite a lot. You didn't look good when you had really thin eyebrows. Yeah, but I also had, like, braces and, like, acne then. So the whole look wasn't giving it good.

She was thinking, maybe I'll pull it off. I'll give it one more go. I think it was after you told me your show was all in my mind and I was like. Oh you know what I did? I had edited a photo on FaceApp. Yes and you looked phenomenal. I got this like a filter and I like made my eyebrows really thin and bleached my hair

on FaceApp and sent it to Sophie and Sophie was like why do I really like this? And I was like right I'm going to do it. I haven't done it. Show her now. I'm going to put the photo I edited on the Wednesday's Instagram. God damn it, she works. She looks phenomenal. She looks better than life could get.

It's the thin thin eyebrows. Let me have another look. But you were like, you look a bit like Addison Rae. Oh, fuck. I think you look like Pamela Anson. We're going for Gabrielle. No, it's not giving Gabrielle. Oh, but I know.

You've got too much of a feminine nose. Yeah, you're too girly. Like, she's got quite a masculine face. I think she's so cool.lle oh but I know you've got too much of a feminine nose yeah you're too girly like she's got quite a masculine face I think she's so cool me too I agree so sexy

but anyway so that's my rebrand that I'm going for so you're going grunge what are you doing grunge too I would definitely go like Pamela

I would copy her I'm copying Melissa I'm going down I'm exactly the same at least we're in it together if we fucking do it what's yours I don't know.

It's got to be different. Your rerun is going to be like, not mum, get the bump out. Oh, yeah. Wearing crop tops. You should do the Addison Rae. Get in the underwear and get the tutu on. This time next year for Halloween, that's what you're going to do. Yeah, I'm going to go to Victoria's Secret's Angel.

That's what I'm going to do. You're in your mature fashion. You're not going to want to Victoria's Secret's Angel. That's what I'm going to do. You're in your mature, like, fashion. Like, you're not going to want to look like Gabrielle. And I feel like you quite know the style you like. Who are your style icons for, like, really nice mum, classy situations? I actually don't really follow many mums. But do you know who I do follow and who I really like her dresses? Hattie Bourne.

Oh, she's so cute. She looks so wholesome her family looks so great yeah did you see that um TikTok of her kid dancing no the little girl I actually genuinely cried watching it I think she sings a song in it it's it's like breathtaking she's like two oh at a hotel like she gets in the middle she's like so cute yeah I feel like she really nails like chill mom vibes right talk to me the listeners want to know driving test

have you passed oh yeah and I failed yeah how many minors majors I actually only got three minors

three or four minors and I got one major what was the major so it was this road that every time I practiced it I got it wrong every single time and it was crossing

a dual carriageway that was quite scary it was scary and I used the right lane instead of the left lane and as soon as I did I was like oh I just failed oh and then you've got to go through the whole test my maneuver after that knowing I'd failed my maneuver was fine what was the maneuver it was a forward park into a bay he obviously gave me a nice one because he thought bless her she's failed and you're pregnant so when are we retaking it well I'm booked for the 4th of December which I'm really regretting as that comes closer because I'm also not doing lessons anymore and I'm about to have a baby okay well you might just smash it from not practicing too much. Yeah, I'm planning.

I'll see how I am, like, when I have my baby, how exhausted I am if she's, like, never sleeping. I don't know. I'm planning on, like, just, like, the week before doing, like, a couple lessons just to refresh my memory. And off I go. And you'll be fine. Yeah, Jamie doesn't, like, do any lessons for his test now because he's done them so many times.

He's lost his license. Did you know that? He's lost his driving licence yeah how that's the person I'm married to how

and you know you have to take your theory again he has to do his theory how do you lose your driving licence he got six points what a fucking idiot

what a fucking idiot oh my god it's so god his insurance will be fucked oh my god absolutely fucked you're so right

it's already fucked because of his... Yeah, because he is personal interest. Yeah, you know that. Like all of our insurances, we can't get insured. If you're a personal interest,

like your insurance is so expensive. Not because you're... No, Melissa's got this wrong. He's a national treasure and it would be a detriment to the country if you don't. That's what Melissa thinks it is

but I think it's because like anyone in like public eye are more of a target to be like stolen from so they don't... Your insurance actually goes really high. But Melissa goes first Because like anyone in like public eye are more of a target to be like stolen from. So they don't, your insurance actually goes really high. But Melissa goes nuts because he's a national treasure. I don't know if she actually thinks that. That would be more like if he had life insurance.

Not for the car. Oh God. Oh God. Right guys, should we get into the dilemmas? Yeah.m. every day. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600

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Dilemma 1. Hey, girls. I've been single for a year and a half, and I've dated a few people here and there, but every boy has given me the ick. I took this as a sign that I wasn't ready for a relationship. I work as cabin crew and work to flight with this guy. We got along instantly,

and when we came back from our work trip, we started hanging out. We went on lots of dates, sunset beach runs, paddling, boarding in the ocean, dinner, movie nights, but nothing would happen. Sorry, where are they in the country? Well, I guess maybe cabin crew.

Oh, sorry, okay, so we're all over the place. After one date, we finally kissed and we slept together. It felt magical as there was a lot of emotion involved and a huge build-up. We've slept together several times since,

but recently haven't seen each other as much. He tells me he doesn't sleep around much and has made comments about him not wanting me to get attached. We all know that the captains, they're all the same. But he's cabin crew. They're all the same. Okay. On our first few times hanging out, I stupidly kept mentioning how I didn't want a relationship

and how happy I was being single. And I was happy being single until things became romantic between us. I want to ask him how he feels. If I say something, he could open up and we could take our relationship to the next step. But I'm scared that it's going to push him away and we lose our friendship. What should I do?

Hmm. I think she's played it right by airing it, being like, I'm not into it. Because then she looks cool girl and then she's being like, actually, I didn't want a relationship. I love being single, but I actually really like you and then she's being like actually I didn't want a relationship I love being single but I actually really like

you and it's less cringe agree than being like I really want to I want to know how good friends they are

I don't think good friends because it says we worked on a cabin so like whatever if you lose a friendship yeah who fucking cares I also do

think like if he likes you he'll make it known what concerns me is he said he didn't want her to get tapped yeah that's a

massive red flag yeah that's biggest red flag someone says that to't want her to get attached yeah that's a massive red flag yeah that's someone says that to me I'm like what the fuck that's just so it's like basically I'm just gonna shag you and you don't have to

get attached to me because I'm not gonna get attached to you like whoa I'd be like shrink that ego motherfucker yeah I'm gonna make you

fall in love with me once you sleep with me boom unfortunately that doesn't happen girls just fall in love no matter what happens what is that

it could be a really shit shag and we'll still fall in love no matter what happens what is that? it could be a really shit shack and we'll still fall in love trust me that's not happened to me before yeah right there is obviously an anomaly like we've all been there

where it hasn't happened but most of the time our bodies just are made to feel like that and it's really frustrating and they can just carry on like nothing's happened I also think

with girls it's like an ego thing a bit like well I've had sex with you why aren't you in love with me? yeah yeah yeah really upsetting it gets so rude and he's just gone yeah don't get attached fuck I would be like right well now I won't talk to you again if he said don't get attached I would just play the game a little bit you have to get because then my my sole mission would be to get

him to fall in love with me I'll make you attach me and I'll not be attached and by doing that you've got to ghost him a bit. You have to play the game. Because I feel like you're not playing the game. It's really like toxic advice to play the game, but sometimes it is just necessary. It really is. However, this guy does probably sound like a walking red flag

and do you want to waste your time? Probably not. Can I just say all this cabin crew stuff, like my mum used to be in cabin crew. She used to be an air hostess way, way, way back in the day when she was really young, like in her early 20s. And she said once,

one of the overnight stays, a captain who was married slid a note under her door saying, I'm in room such and such. I actually have heard captains. They are naughty. They are naughty. And apparently they're all the same.

So mum didn't go, oh yeah, you tried to set me up with the captain. Right, let's talk about red flags and jobs. So captains, red flag. On LinkedIn, we need to like segregate them into like, don't date these people. Stop brokers with this job title. Brokers.

Brokers, you're done. Barry's actually a broker, but not for stop. Yeah, but he's married. So you got him before he was a broker, so it's okay. Brokers are naughty. Had you met him now i would be saying stay well away true i just feel like city boys in general city wankers whatever they call them bank wankers um who else is there that's not good actors actors are you you're gonna

kiss some girl another action you're gonna fall can't bear it can't bear the acting actors so agree influencers well you're married to one, so. Models, I will say. Oh my God. I love that. Do you know what? Every model that I know, my friend Tally is married to a model. He worships his wife.

Another friend of mine is married to a model, worships his wife. Models are fine. So actually, that's a good one. I think models are fine. That's a surprising one, but they are. I think it's just you would assume that they're not just because they're models and they're good looking.

Who else is there that's walking red flags? Army boys, army boys, red flags. Yeah, I can imagine that that's not really a good vibe.

Army boys, red flags, because the girls don't live in the barracks and then they just go wild. And they all like, I mean, obviously footballers,

like, duh. Oh, well, you know what you're getting into. Yeah, you do. That's literally just written all over it. That you know what you're getting into. Yeah, you do. That's literally just written all over it.

That's a choice you're making. Well-known red flag. Really? People don't think it. They are really, really bad. Interesting. Interesting. I reckon sports personalities.

Cricket players are fine. Cricket players are different. Yeah, I don't know. But they don't exactly have women falling at their feet. It's a different vibe, cricket. I'm thinking that all men in sports are probably a bit of a red flag because they have so much time alone. I actually just think any really rich man as well.

I just feel like they have power and they know that they do and they abuse it. Yeah. Basically we just think there's very little men who aren't walking around. It's just really just a small, small, small pool of good people. Like maybe a milkman. But we're obviously not going to cut out

anyone rich. No. Of course not. I'm sure people really like being with sportsmen. Of course. There's obviously

some anomalies to this but I think in general footballers captains as in flying captains is that their name? Yeah captains. Pilots.

And like ship captains I bet too. Below that. Oh yeah. Doing the rounds. So just going back to the dilemma. And like ship captains, I bet too. Below deck. Oh yeah. Doing the rounds. So just going back to the dilemma, I personally don't think this guy wants to be with you. If I'm being completely honest, I think if he did, he would make it known. He wouldn't say to you, don't get attached.

It's really hard for you though, once you've got that attachment, you almost think and convince yourself that they must be feeling the same thing because how could they possibly not? I agree. I couldn't agree more with you. I don't think that he wants to make it more. And I just don't think

men play games in the same way women would. Like, I don't think he'd be saying don't get attached just to play a game. No. He means don't get attached. He's like,

please don't get attached to me because I will bin you like a piece of rubbish. Because I'm sleeping with other people. Yeah, that's what he means. Like, when I go on to my next cabin crew

that are going to Antigua, like, you bet I'm going to be sleeping with, you know. You that's what you mean. Like when I go on to my next cabin crew that are going to Antigua, like you bet I'm going to be sleeping with, you know. You've got to walk away from this, I think. And if he really fools you, then that's a different story. He will chase you. Exactly. But he'll probably be sleeping with Carol from BA. I agree.

Carol. Carol from BA. On the trip to Antigua. I know. Sorry, hon. And they'll be having those pino cardas in Antigua. You know they're going to be having that. On the beach.

And he's going to be saying the same thing to her. Don't get attached. Cabin crew's really fun. I bet they have all these sorts of situations. Oh my gosh, there's so many of us. Right, so if you guys work in cabin crew, you know anyone that does, or you know any juicy stories,

please tell us. Because I'd love to know the inside goss on that and what the vibes are like and what the men are like. I bet there is so many captains that are shagging the cabin crew. I wonder if it's like in-flight sex is going on. Mile High Club. Yeah. In the cockpit.

Apparently in the cockpit they put autopilot on and they just... Someone was telling me this and I don't know who it was. Was it you? Yes. I've heard that. Someone wrote that in, I think, to us years ago. Oh my God, maybe someone wrote it in to us. Someone wrote it in.

They were shagging in the cockpit. I wouldn't feel safe on that flight. Nor me. But the cockpit is giving the name for a sex pit. It really is. It's literally got the word cock in there. Yeah, guys, please tell us. We need to hear it.

Even if it's just a story, it doesn't even need to be a dilemma. Like, a must-hear. Oh my God, yeah, we want cabin crew sex stories. Absolutely. It's like a below deck, but like... In the air? Above air.

Above air. Above ozone. Dilemma two. Me and my partner have been together for around three years and been living together the past year. However, we're caught in a situation where I'm not sure if he's being controlling or just insecure. Dilemma 2.

Huh. He has a traditional attitude and has said negative things about my friends in the past too. I explained to him that I wouldn't mind if he went away with his friends but he said that it's different with girls and asked why I'd want to go to a party I didn't like

I'd be through if I was in a relationship. Sorry. Yeah, this is controlling. We've been together three years and there's so much trust there I just don't see

what's wrong with me wanting to go to my be through with the girls. He said he wouldn't ever tell me I couldn't do anything but it's making me question him.

Am I being naive about realising he's secretly controlling? No, he's really, this is really red flag. This is not good. That was very controlling. But it's like, are you going to break up with someone over this one thing where they won't let you go to Ibiza? It's difficult. But it'll be like little things that'll keep happening. Yeah.

I would break up with someone. I'd be like, what are you on about? You won't let me go to Ibiza with my friends. The thing is as well, he's saying like, you can go, but I don't want you to. So he's just going to make her feel guilt about it. But I still control this. Gaslight it. Yeah, I'm not sure. And also him saying he's turned down boys trips. He never asked him to do that.

And that's on him. That's weird. You don't want him to do that. This is really not nice. I mean, look, from my side, you don't have to break out with him straight away, but I would really keep your eyes open

because this, for me, sets a precedent of like the way he's going to be. And it's not getting nice. Also, it's three years in. It is a strange time to suddenly start doing this or has he always been like and you've not noticed I think that will be the case even a honeymoon phase and I also don't like he talks badly about her friends that would really upset me because like my friends are really important to me and even if I did have some crazy wild friends like doesn't mean I'm gonna then go and cheat on you because my friends like wild single having a fun time.

It's really controlling and like claustrophobic and just not good. You're going to have to say something. Be like, look, I'm going to go on this holiday and you're going to have to trust me and be okay with it because this is not the first time this is going to happen. I'm going to go on more girls' holidays. I'm going to go on hen parties. Yeah.

Like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like some of my friends are going to be single. And, like, you have to just be okay with that. I think that's the best way of doing it. Like, not necessarily, like, break up and say, oh, my God, red flag, you're controlling, done. But if you start conceding to small things early on, you'll end up conceding to more and more.

And then you'll, like, lose yourself because he'll just have total control because it'll be easier. I completely agree. Like, it may seem small but you have to stand your ground. It blows my mind how sometimes like people like girls and boys can like make such

unreasonable like requests like this and think that that's like okay and normal. I'm like, no one's going to be like agreeing to that. Do you know what I mean?

Like how do your friends and like... I think that it's really easy to sort of protect and isolate yourself in these situations. You want to protect them. You probably, your gut thinks it's wrong and to sort of protect and isolate yourself in these situations. You want to protect them. You probably, your gut thinks it's wrong and you don't want to admit it.

So then you don't tell anyone because you know your friends are going to be like, you need to break up with him. But I really think by doing that, you're going to isolate yourself. I really think you need to talk to your friends, communicate with your friends, seek advice, call your mom, call your sister, call your brother and be like, is this normal? What do you think about this and don't be afraid of their reaction like you don't have to break up with them if they say break up but you shouldn't be alone with these sort of decisions I also think it's important not to be afraid of your boyfriend and standing up to him being like fuck off like I'm going on this girl's holiday like how dare you say that I can't and then like blame the fact

that you haven't been on boys holidays because you're respecting me but I'm gonna go and if his reaction is like really terrible and like things get like toxic then that's enough

of an answer for you you can't live your life not socialising with your girlfriends and stuff just because he's like insecure and also quite frankly

if he feels like he can't go on a boys holiday and still respect you then what's wrong with him that's his fucking problem yeah absolutely that's a red flag in itself he can't keep it a boys' holiday and still respect you, then what's wrong with him? That's his fucking problem, yeah. Absolutely.

That's a red flag in itself. Yeah. He can't keep it in his pants. Really odd thing to say. Even if you've got single friends, if they're hanging out with boys, you don't have to, you know, be on their table or whatever. Yeah. Even if you do, like, it doesn't mean you're going to be cheating on him. No, fucking yeah. There's no trust here.

Yeah. Like, he doesn't trust himself, and that's why he doesn't trust you, which is a red flag, and you shouldn't ignore it. Not good, not good, not good. Keep a tab on this. Go on the girls' holiday. Have fun. I think regardless to what happens to your boyfriend, you need to go on this girls' holiday.

You don't want to miss out on that memory. Oh, for sure. Girls' holidays are the best. And also, as you said, what's he going to do when hem parties come around? They will. What's he going to do on stags? I mean, Jesus Christ.

You know? Also, I feel like there's information online if you need support with controlling boyfriends or you know if you're feeling like you're being isolated by your partner definitely seek advice online and and reach out to people dilemma three hey Sophie and Melissa I've been starting to look at my best friend's ex-boyfriend a bit differently. Uh-oh. For context, me and my best friend and her ex-boyfriend are all from the same area. My best friend broke up with her ex a year ago, and now me and him go to the same uni, and we've started to form a friendship. He has always been lovely, kind, and a caring guy who is very good-looking.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I never used to fancy him but recently I've started to realize that he is quite literally my ideal man I would say we have similar attributes and our personalities would be very well suited but not only is he my best friend's ex he also has a new girlfriend he goes to our uni well he's off limits this girlfriend doesn't like me because I spend one-on-one time together with her boyfriend. Our friendship is very platonic and not flirty, but I'm seeing qualities in him that I want in

my boyfriend. I don't know how he feels about me and I would never dream of approaching him whilst he is still in a relationship. I feel like an awful friend for thinking this way, but I can't help but question if he fancies me or does he just view me as his little sister and looks out for me because we know each other from back home? What a fun position to be in when you really fancy somebody. Fun but really anxiety-inducing

when it's your best friend's ex and you can't know your feelings. Oh, but for me, this is just a fantasy. They're never going to be together, so she can just fantasize and go get with someone else. You never know. But there's no connection. I mean, they've never even kissed.

You never know. So she needs to not go down that route. She can fantasise. He's so fit. There was loads of boys at uni. What do we think about the ex thing, though? Best friend. I honestly couldn't give a fuck.

If you dated, or if any of my best friends dated any of my exes, I would be like, go for it. Same. It depends on the girl, I think. Because I also, friends of mine have slept with my exes. I literally could not care. If you've just broken up with them, I think. Because I also, friends of mine have slept with my exes. I literally could not care. If you've just broken up with them, I get that there's a thing. Okay, it's a year.

A few years have passed. You've moved on. You've got a new boyfriend. Do you give a fuck? The problem is he's got a girlfriend. Well, I know there's several barriers with this scenario. There's quite a few barriers. There's quite a few, but I'm just meaning in general.

In general. I don't think he fancies her. I don't think people that have a problem with people dating their ex when it's been such a long time past. I'm like, you need to get over this person. It's been seven years. I agree. Do you know what I mean?

I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, I agree. I agree. I'm like, you clearly still have feet. I'm killing me out of problems. I'm not making out to each other. It was kind of different. It was more recent and it was all filmed and whatever.

Oh, yeah, that was very recent. The Made to Chelsea one. Yeah, that was very recent. Straight after. And it was all like very incestuous. That was like a match of months, wasn't it. That was very recent. The Made to Chelsea one. Yeah. That was very recent. Straight after. And it was all like very incestuous. That was like a match of months, wasn't it? That was different.

I find it hard. Like, you've had a relationship in school. It's been four or five years. There's been relationships in between that. And someone's gone, your ex is off limits. Any ex, any person you've slept with,

I'm like, well, there's only a few people in this vicinity. Me and you have actually never crossed over. No. But a lot of people in our circle have crossed over with similar people. I'm like, that's natural. That's going to happen. Oh, yeah.

Two of my best friends have slept with Barry. Before me. Obviously. Obviously. I mean, half the world's slept with Jamie, so I've got no home. I know, but I just think of you and Barry being together since you were, like, born. So I'm like, when? We obviously met in, in like second year of uni

so earlier on that year he'd slept with a couple of my friends already I mean Toby's slept with a few people I've crossed paths with and no one that I'm like friends with thank god

look I'm differing to you guys I don't think a year's not a very long time for me if I'd broken up with someone a year ago and you my best friend

started dating him I'd be like you're a fucking bad friend you, my best friend, started dating him, I'd be like, you're a fucking bad friend. I think you have to gauge also how your best friend still feels about this person. I disagree. I disagree.

I think it's a girl code. I don't think you go for your best friend's ex. I'm not going for my best friend's ex. I think if they're friends or an acquaintance, fine. Best friends, I think it's off limits. Yeah, best friends. Personally, I do.

It depends. I think it's really off limits., best friends. Personally, I do. It depends. I think it's really off limits. Your best friend, in a year or so, he's still in a relationship, so let's say this relationship fizzles out. Then in a year, your best friend has moved on and it's like, oh my God, why don't you, because some people are like,

why don't you just go for him? We were like kids at the time. You're literally 17 when you're at school. She might not care. I mean, if you've gone home in love, you've not got with him. Yeah, you're saving the friendship for what? My view is like it's off limits but everyone's got a different view but that's my view and I sound like it's your best best friend I think it's off limits

your best friend no it's not and there's no point in ruining your friendship when you haven't even done anything yet and there's no real feelings you're just looking at him like I'm in I'm really in love with you and I can't help my feelings I like maybe tell your friend but if he hasn't he's got another girlfriend you're just causing drama for yourself

that's what I was going to say I feel like if he was putting it on her a lot and was making it really clear he really liked her it might be really hard to ignore feelings

you're getting feels for him and he's got a girlfriend this is the problem like god forbid he's single you're going to be like can I deny this? But it's difficult. Also, like, we're really ignoring a major factor.

He has a girlfriend at the uni. I don't know what you're expecting to happen right now. She's obviously engaging something from him because otherwise you wouldn't, I don't think you'd pick up a vibe as a girl. Why is he spending all this one-on-one time with you if he's got a girlfriend as well? I think he's just looking out for her

because they know each other from back home. Yeah, I think when you go to uni, if you do have anyone from home, you cling on to them all. And that also might be why she's starting to have feelings for him, just because it's a familiar person. Feels like home. I agree. Be anything. Ultimately, what do you expect?

You can't do anything, So I don't really know. I personally would just try and get with some other boys because you need to get... Distract yourself. You need to. You've got a crush and you need to get over it. You're not in love. Yeah.

100%. Also, you're really young if you've got to uni. So much can happen at uni, honestly. Spread your wings. And if he breaks up with his girlfriend in a year's time and he comes running back, and then by then it's two years with the ex, it's a different story. But right now, you can't do anything.

So I would just spread your wings. And I would say it would be too soon now anyway. I agree. I think so. Yeah, you're right. A year isn't that long. Especially when you're that young as well. It's very different to best friends.

I think you think you'd be chill, but I think you'd be like... Only because I really wouldn't care. I genuinely, with any of my exes right now trust me if it was Toby and we only broke up a year I would know

no obviously but that's what I mean but Harry even two months after we broke up a month a week

but that's because you were repulsed by them this girl not every girl is repulsed by their ex but like that's unusual

to leave an ex and have no emotion that's what I was trying to say you need to gauge what the exactly what the best friend the best friend might be like ugh honestly like I really outgrew it but then how can they all hang out together though you's what I was trying to say you need to gauge what the exactly what the best friend the best friend might be like ugh honestly

like I really outgrew it how can they all hang out together though you know what I mean that's the difference that is

I wouldn't love hanging out with my ex but also if my best friend was like really happy and in love with him I'd be like I'll get

over my ick for you do you know what I mean yeah if you left the relationship with the ick

you'd probably be like ew why are you doing this it's fine but if you left and you still had a bit of love for, and it was like your first love, and you always have those memories,

it's a bit like sour then, if like you have those memories of your first love, and then suddenly he's making new memories of your best friend. You're quite unusual that it doesn't phase you. So I would not go with that advice, because I think it would phase most girls, is my opinion.

Yeah, you have to gauge how perfect the person is. Like, it's rare for someone to break up with a long relationship and be absolutely repulsed by that person, isn't it? Like, are you repulsed

by it? Kind of, but not like... No, no, no. Yeah. Like, I still have fondness for most of my exes. Yeah.

There's actually two of them that were my, like, younger loves and I still have fond memories of them, seeing them every now and then and like you know I like them as people and like we're not friends but we're very friendly I would say and I would really wouldn't mind if someone was dating him that I knew but how many

years later is that imagine a year later I wouldn't mind but I was so repulsed by the end of the relationship even though I was still like love you as a person but really don't see you romantically anymore I don't know if it's because I so get out in my head before it's ended that I'm like by the end of it maybe maybe but if it was Toby you have to gauge it if it was Toby I'm not an adult relationship why wouldn't it even be about like the relationship I would still be like girl code I'd just be like that feels wrong that you've done that to me when unless they're in love it's all circumstantial like there's always differing situations like there's just differing things it's different for every single situation I also think whilst you're so young you really need to

like weigh up like the pros and cons of it if you're a bit older and you're like this could be my forever man like this could be my soulmate And you do end up getting married and having children, then your best friend will be like, I'm obviously not going to stop this relationship from happening if like I want my ex to be happy and I want you to be happy. You never know,

those things probably do happen. Okay, what I would do is just, you've got to find someone actually fancy. You're at uni, let me tell you, there are loads of boys there. You're just zoning in on this one guy because he's from your hometown.

Like spread your wings, ignore him for a bit. Then you'll find the other fit boys and he'll give you the ick. I'm sure of it. It's how your hometown. Like, spread your wings. Ignore him for a bit. Then you'll find the other fit boys and he'll give you the ick. I'm sure of it. It's how it happens. Yeah. And if he doesn't,

maybe then you are in love and then we adjust. Then you have to address it further down the line. I would also maybe stop spending one-on-one time with him. Some one-on-one time

is like alright, but it sounds like you're spending a lot of one-on-one time and that's not helping you. Things happen. People fall in love with people and they don't fucking mean to and you can't help it. But you're not there yet with this. I think save that's not helping you. Things happen. People fall in love with people and they don't fucking mean to and you can't help it

but you're not there yet with this. I think save the drama. Me too. Save yourself. And if you want your best friend to stay in your life then you probably should just leave it. Okay guys,

I think that's the end. That was a really juicy dilemma. We all have very differing opinions. Yeah. Thanks Georgia. Thanks for having me. So impromptu. Next time she'll be on

she will have a baby yeah or when you listen to this I guarantee you'll probably have a child I better do if not you'll be having it the next day

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