Wednesdays - 61. I’m in LOVE with my best friend of 10 YEARS! Do I tell him how I feel?

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Heyyyy Tinies,We’re bringing you along for the ride of Georgia Habboo’s labour. Did Sophie’s sister give birth whilst the girls were recording this episode of the podcast?Sophie and Melissa are ...also chatting about Jamie and Toby’s icks, and the girls spill about some of their bad habits, and what TMI things need to stay private to keep your relationship alive.And on the dilemmas, we have a Tiny realising that she’s in love with her boy best friend of ten years. Does she tell him how he feels? Sophie and Melissa are also helping another Tiny whose boyfriend keeps watching “you know what” whilst they’re getting steamy in the bedroom. Is there ever place for porn in a relationship? Or is it just down right disrespectful? Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/ If you have a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma send to wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk, SLIDE into our DMs @wednesdayspodcast--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer: @gurlinaheer_Editor: @kat.milsomExec: Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:50 guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help coming up on this week's episode of wednesdays george is the neighbor now, so she could give birth at any moment. And we also chat about me missing Jamie's birthday weekend because of it. We also chat about Toby and Jamie's icks and what a deal breaker is in relationships. And the dilemmas are juicy this week as we chat about a tiny whose boyfriend watches porn every single time she goes down on him. And we're giving our advice on whether a tiny should get with her best friend or should leave it as the one that got away. Enjoy the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Hello. Hi, guys. I am going to just be real with you because I can't contain this. My sister's in labour. She's in labour. How many hours into labour? Okay, so I'm going to give you the whole breakdown. So she was due.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's Jamie's birthday on Sunday. Let's actually discuss this. Well, it? So she was due. It's Jamie's birthday on Sunday. Let's actually discuss this. Well, it was Jamie's birthday yesterday. It was Jamie's birthday yesterday. It's now Monday. It was organized to go up to Scotland to see his granny, who we know and love if you listen to new ads, in Scotland. However, why I agreed to that, I have no idea,
Starting point is 00:02:00 considering my sister's due date was on Sunday. So far in advance, it's difficult to think about things like in my mind I was like well the baby won't come till Sunday minimum like in my mind she's coming Sunday that's her due date she's coming Sunday and I was like I'll be back Sunday morning anyway so I'm at the the training station and I get a text from my sister I'm just gonna because we talk about this stuff her mucus plug came out I've never heard of the mucus plug before until you told me this the mucus plug I don't know what it is but
Starting point is 00:02:27 Barry nearly threw up and it apparently looked like cottage cheese pink like bloody cottage cheese yeah so if you're throwing up
Starting point is 00:02:35 and he went oh no I can just imagine it George has said his eyes literally like went like Mickey Mouse they popped out of his face
Starting point is 00:02:44 or like bug sping or something. And he was like. And she was like, oh my God. Surely they were taught about that in antenatal. I don't think many people, a lot of people get away with not having to see their mucus plug. Oh, right. Here you go. A mucus plug is a thick jelly-like collection of mucus that forms in the cervical canal during pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Right. So when that comes out, baby's coming, basically. Baby's basically. It's on its way. But I guess for some people, that would come out during birth. Right, so when that comes out, baby's coming, basically. Baby's basically on its way. But I guess for some people, that would come out during birth. Absolutely. So it's not even something
Starting point is 00:03:08 people talk about because, you know, everything's coming out. Loads of, exactly. Got you. So Edinburgh, on my way back, train's coming, boarding, boarding.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I look at Jamie, tears coming in my eyes. I thought I was going to throw up. So I'm like, I need to stay. Like, I need to stay. So off I go with my suitcase. It has loads of chocolate in it I'm
Starting point is 00:03:25 ready to go for the weekend I'm like I have to say bye Jamie have fun on your birthday in Edinburgh I can't be there off I go home waiting waiting waiting my mum's landing it's all happening nothing happens on Sunday I then my sister's like right let's go for lunch and because I can't just sit around twiddling our thumbs yeah she suddenly is like I want to go to hospital she just got nervous she just felt yeah
Starting point is 00:03:48 she just got nervous she was like you know what I feel like she's not moving much you know she just got nervous yeah oh she goes to hospital
Starting point is 00:03:55 four hours later they induce her so we're there for four whole hours guys the harrowing screams I heard from these women giving birth my eyes
Starting point is 00:04:03 pricked with water my legs went they gave, they gave way. They gave way at the chair. No, I wouldn't believe it. If there was a chair not beneath me, I would have fainted on the floor. And I'm there going, and all these women were about to give birth. Georgia was like, shut the fuck up. And I also had period pains.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I can't come to you. Fucking hell. Georgia's like, you need to leave. Anyway, she gets induced yesterday at like 3.30 p p.m and she goes into labor straight away contractions i don't know if that's in labor now she's in labor like she's right now her contractions have reached 100 because you get monitored she says it's the most painful thing she's ever done but bearable she's she's soldering is she now being numbed no she's not got the epidural yeah okay we have to wait until you're a certain amount dilated
Starting point is 00:04:45 before they can do that. Exactly. So basically, she could give birth at any point. So I've not spoken to her since 10 a.m. now because I was psyched with not having her.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Also, it's like, no, no, I will tell you when something's happening. It's going to be the same. It can go on for a few days. They said it could take 72 hours. Can you imagine? Fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So anyway, at this point in time, I'm just heads all over the place really but i did see this gorgeous little newborn there was so many newborns in the waiting room i was just looking at them thinking and all these boss ass bitches mums that's not nice boss ass bitches all these boss ass bitches they were just so cool like they just give them birth this tiny human and they're just like holding them so now i was just like this is so we were saying this like it's so bonkers how a baby and giving birth and being
Starting point is 00:05:31 pregnant is like such a magical special thing but it happens all the time like most women will go through do it but it's just such a big deal even though it happens all the time and such a miracle it's so funny it's so weird and what's also weird is that the guys just don't do it they can't do it it's nothing that was nothing why on earth are men more powerful in the world like they can't do the thing that recreates us well i think because maybe because it's seen to be more powerful but i feel like with what we can do with nature it's definitely more powerful like you're joking yeah but it's weird it depends it's all about perception
Starting point is 00:06:11 perception of power like back in the day women had no no i'm not gonna go into some feminist chat but it did make me think like what i listened to these women scream i was like well i guess because we're then doing that and from back in the day we would then do it and then just want to the instinct is soon you have to keep your baby alive and feed them so then the bloke would naturally be working from back in the day that's just how it's developed now it's a different time now it's a different time but like even from like i want to like maybe back way back in the day like what about in cave men days were women more important then well i guess they would be praised and the men would be like don't worry you stay here i will go and do everything for you i'll go or did they have 40 wives and they were all just like i don't know you know what i mean i don't know but anyway
Starting point is 00:06:58 she's ready she had her nails on she had her hair done she's off to the races really oh my god it's just crazy some of you seen these videos some girls they go into you know those things that they put on their heads that it's like the heatless curls and they sleep with them you're gonna die because i just need to show you exactly what i was just gonna say is she in there with that on her head so many women she goes night before yeah so they wake up in the morning baby's born for photos they take their hair out put their concealer on and boom they look like they've had a blow dry that is so funny I've seen that all over TikTok
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was like what are you doing it's a real thing I've just been sent one I'm going to try and do it tonight actually it's so good have you tried it before
Starting point is 00:07:32 yeah I have I have tried it a few times but it's uncomfortable sleeping because it's like this great thing on the side of your head I just don't think I'd know how to do it do you just wrap it around
Starting point is 00:07:42 it's so easy you literally just wrap your head around and then tie it up at the top yeah yeah yeah it's so easy I don't know why but I'm really off put by doing it no part of know how to do it do you just wrap it around it's so easy you literally just wrap your head around and then tie it up at the top yeah yeah it's so easy I don't know why but I'm really off put by doing it I did no part of me because it's like slightly unattractive you should see the way I like it's a good form of contraception all these like face tape things all these like hateless curls at night like all these women sometimes like I think these videos I'm like how is any my friend was like are these girls having sex because it's like their tape their mouths taped up like their eyes you say that but i look so disgusting every night but they can't even kiss they have their mouth taped like they have like these things i can't
Starting point is 00:08:13 kiss i'm like get the fuck off me i've got all my spot cream on me i'm like if you want to do that we're not kissing that's the stage i'm at but i do look really i have a really weird problem where i can't i have all my matching pajamas folded up in my pajama drawer. You're precious. But I have to wear them, I'm matching, I literally have to wear the ugliest outfits at bed. Why? I can't, I don't know. I'm still trying to maintain myself for Jamie and for the girls, but mostly for myself, if I'm honest.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Mine's all for myself, but then I do do I guess as a knock on effect It is then also For my relationship Because that's something That keeps me happy Obviously I'm not gonna lie The reason I'm doing it
Starting point is 00:08:51 Is because all you fuckers Keep doing it So I've got to keep up with you But what are you talking about Are we talking about like nails And stuff Could we all just like Fair game
Starting point is 00:08:57 Like no one will do anything And then I'll stop We don't do that much I never get my hair done I never style my hair I hardly ever wear makeup unless i'm doing the podcast or i'm going out for dinner or something i get a lot of facials well i don't actually but that's for relaxation purposes like i don't even get any facials i don't
Starting point is 00:09:14 know what i'm talking about i could really do with getting some more but what i do do are like polynex i'd rather stop and i go once a month for a lovely facial and i I savor those two hours when I'm in that facial room I fucking I sleep I really switch off I absolutely love it I mean and I come out of there looking quite heinous because I'm red from my cutely so that's actually nothing to do with my partner thinking that I'm more of a massage girl if I want to really really indulge that's my way of doing it I find it really hard to relax sometimes with massages oh I think it's because i put so much pressure on myself to relax yeah and i'm like just chill out just chill out just chill out and also when it's hurting my muscles i'm like and then i can't relax yeah yeah yeah you've got to get in the habit of doing a massage i mean there have been
Starting point is 00:10:00 times when i've done once a week yeah and it really really does things to you let me tell you i have had really weird mass have i told the listeners about that time that there was a guy who came around on the screen that was the weirdest thing ever and then the guy with the sweat that was also oh the dripping sweat on you that's disgusting basically just the listeners who are new i once had a massage and um a man came in he didn't have a bed he laid me on my bed and he got out a wooden spoon and started massaging my feet with a wooden spoon and my legs with a wooden spoon tap tap tap mush mush did he say like explain like this is no no no as he walked in i thought and jamie thought hmm is this actually legit? Nothing was giving
Starting point is 00:10:45 I am a masseuse. Not that you can judge a book by its cover but it was all odd from the offset is what I'm going to say. I knew someone was putting a practical joke on you.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I will say I just had a face gym before I came here today. That was lovely. And my boyfriend's not in the country right now so it's nothing for him. Should we talk about that?
Starting point is 00:11:01 How are we dealing with our toes being here? You know what? You get used to it after a week and i'm going away tomorrow which is lovely that'll distract but two weeks is quite a long time i don't know how people do long two weeks is a really long time the first week you know what the first two days are actual bliss and the third day you're like fourth day you're kind of used to it five day six days it's like you're used to it but you really miss them at the same time.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Weekends are tough, I think. The sea fin just gone was really easy because I was so busy. What did you do on Sunday? I went to Richmond Park with my friends and we had a long walk. And then I had a lovely brunch. And then I had my nails done. It was a really nice Sunday. Really nice Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Look, I won't lie. Sundays, I like to spend on my own really no i don't i like to be with people all the time i love to use sunday as a day exactly how you did like nails i mean obviously bias but when i say by my own i mean jb can come too but i like me basically it's like a doing day i like to get my nails yeah there's bits and bobs to get done saturday i don't like being alone. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, it's also like this thing of like, if other people are doing things on a Saturday
Starting point is 00:12:08 and I'm not, I just get such a bit. Oh my God, I get none. I'm literally like joy. Well, I will say, just going back to this whole like keeping yourself maintained for your relationship pressure or whatever. And some people like let themselves go massively, I guess, in a sense, or they relax.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Do they really though? Some people do. I think like years down the line they're not like married in year two of marriage I don't know some people I think the man just gives up like trying to look good doesn't want to go to the gym anymore whatever sometimes that happens to the girl too and I think I think maintaining magic is maybe the wrong word but like attraction and blah blah blah, blah. It's really hard when you're in a long-term relationship
Starting point is 00:12:47 because, like, naturally it's not going to fucking be the same as it was at the start. So you have to put effort into, like, take care of your relationship and yourself, I believe. I totally agree. And they do too. I don't think it's something we can go, oh, we're in now, they love me,
Starting point is 00:12:59 I'm just going to, you know, sit on the sofa all day. I don't know, whatever. I try that so unattractively. Like, that's not the guy I married. I didn't know you to just sit on a sofa like's like a slob and not shave your face totally agree I'm like oh I know and it's such a double standard because I do feel like as a woman you'd be like they should love me even when I'm at my worst which I do agree with but then I'm also like if you can love someone but not be attracted yeah if the man then gets to a really weird place that I've never seen before and it's like staying like that for a really long time and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:13:27 hang on a minute, this is like not what I sign up for. I'm probably going to consider like popping off. Do you know what I mean? So it's a bit of a double standard. But if like a man was saying that to me about his wife, I'd be like, you're a fucking arsehole. It's just so, it's really strange. It's an interesting topic.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I think, look, they don't have to look a certain way like as women get older, like our metabolisms change or we get grey hair. Oh, within reason, right? But you just have to try
Starting point is 00:13:52 and take care of yourself as the epitome of the, like, I don't want a guy who is just not going to shave his head or clean or like, do his nails.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Make an effort with me. Like, you know, I want them to like, scrub up nicely. Quite early on, Jamie had, not that he does anything not to take care of himself he takes great care of himself but you know just habits like he broke the fourth wall in the sense that he was putting the door open i was like this is way too much no no no no no yeah and he still does but i do think
Starting point is 00:14:19 some boys and girls make that mistake and think it's fine because they're comfortable and i get that that is okay for some people it's not okay for me it's not okay for me don't fucking do it in front of me I will never do it in front of you I like to keep a little bit of mystery I've never once done it he thinks I don't know ever yeah I don't think I have intentionally in front of Jamie either well obviously I haven't like maybe in my sleep right listen but he that doesn't get like I'm not repulsed by it I've got used to that so if he does that and i'm in bed and asleep and i can see he's gone to the loo our doors are like really heavy slide door you have to push them in yeah they're really fucking annoying it's not it's not as easy as just closing a door like i pee with the door open the entire time god forbid i would i don't even i
Starting point is 00:14:57 can't even pee if he's outside the room oh my god neither i still like the taps going on newlyweds listen to like we hear a whole different story. Oh, I know, I know, I know. But listen, there are certain things. So like, I hate, I cannot bear a boy picking, you know, I've got a thing about nails and feet, hands and feet. I, if I see a boy like picking his toenail,
Starting point is 00:15:19 like just sat. Toby does that. I, so Jamie. It really upsets me. And I've been like, why? I would never do that in front of you you know i don't find you attractive when you're doing that stuff i literally have to say to you i'm really sorry that's like an out like you can poo with the door that to me is disgusting like
Starting point is 00:15:33 i won't allow that in my house and i'm like i don't want my children to like copy see their dad i don't know it's fucking foul i know it's fucking foul it's so wrong so anyway that's like a real off thing for me what other things does he do that's kind of the only off thing and then recently I realized that he doesn't shower um before getting into my bed after not after a day yeah and I'm like oh my god I'm horrified I never knew that because we we have different showers we don't share the same shower room so when I hear him like washing his face when he's come home, I think he's showering because then he gets into
Starting point is 00:16:07 not in his like vape mode. He gets into his like comfy. But he's not showered his body and I find that hideous because then we're going to have sex if we do.
Starting point is 00:16:15 This is their nighttime routine. my clean sheets are filthy with talk. I know, that's disgusting. I, my priority is showering before bed. Even if I've showered
Starting point is 00:16:22 in the morning, I'm showering before bed. Or the bidet gets used. Toby loves the bidet. I know we're going to get one in the new house Even if I've showered in the morning, I'm showering before bed. Or the bidet gets used. Toby loves the bidet. If he's showered post-gym, and he's like, you know what, I showered at like 11am.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I don't need to have another shower. I've just been working from home editing. Fine, nothing dirty's happening. That's fine. But he will use the bidet. No, listen, it's not. Is it the bidet or bidet? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:42 But if you're sitting at home, I'm fine with it. But if you're out and about in the'm fine with it but if you're out and about in the London smug what's it called the smug it's found
Starting point is 00:16:49 the bed sheets are filthy and he's on that moped getting all that dirt in him I know so that was another thing I said
Starting point is 00:16:56 no no we have to stop that because our marriage will break it will break up it's good to like draw the line of like you know
Starting point is 00:17:02 what you're okay with and what you're not because like they can't just carry on doing anything in front of us I'm like I maintain a certain level
Starting point is 00:17:08 I'm not there picking my toenails I never would be you know what sometimes his farting's got quite bad no he's gonna hate it
Starting point is 00:17:17 he's gonna hate it it's got really quite bad as in to the point where he'll like do it and then I'll be upstairs and I go heard that and he's like do it and then I'll be upstairs
Starting point is 00:17:25 and I go heard that and he's like how and like it's really loud and like sometimes
Starting point is 00:17:30 it's really fucking stinks okay we're in bed and he goes he calls himself windy Newton if he's in a fight
Starting point is 00:17:38 and he goes he gets ready and he goes oh Newton and I'm like oh and then the air purifier
Starting point is 00:17:43 the air purifier goes it goes and like turns itself on because it can obviously get the sulfur or whatever the acid smell is and it goes on crazy oh my god I hear that I know what you mean the air purifier yeah it turns itself on really loud because it can it can get that it's getting like the what is it like the toxins from his fucking poo the poo particles out huge particles and i was like oh god you're gonna give me pink eye and so that's become a recent problem where i'm like i'm obviously that's not a deal breaker but i'm like please stop but then he's like if i hold it in like then i've got a really bad tummy ache and
Starting point is 00:18:17 i'm like oh my god why is he so gassy we need to work that out because i give him loads of cruciferous veg but i don't doesn't make me guess yeah but you don't get gassy over anything your stomach's weird your stomach just is really like it doesn't make me gassy. Yeah, but you don't get gassy over anything. Your stomach's weird. Your stomach just is really... I'm like, is that because I've got good gut health? Yeah, but most people do. Or maybe you have no intolerances. I don't think you have any intolerances.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah, maybe. But yeah, it will just be because you've got a good gut. But he will just be suffering. It's when I give him cauliflower, loads of broccoli, bean sprouts. He goes... He's in pain. He goes, oh... He goes, he eats. He's in pain. He goes, oh.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He goes, this is going to make me. And I'm like, oh, great. I can't bear it. I don't mind one bit. If it smiles, it really does things to me. I actually really find it upsetting. It's so upsetting. Because I feel like I'm then breathing in poo. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm like, this is not nice now. This has got to go. Hey, gorgeous girls I need help I'm in love with my best friend of 10 years no way 10 years fuck
Starting point is 00:19:14 a few years ago we had a drunken night together but it didn't go as any further as I didn't want to ruin the friendship he was really hurt by this as he always
Starting point is 00:19:22 had a thing for me and wanted to make a go of things hold on drunken thing do we think they slept with each other yeah okay night a whole night yeah that's a shock here's the dilemma i'm 32 and i recently had my first baby i got pregnant quickly having only been with my partner for four months i never really felt he was the one as we're very different
Starting point is 00:19:39 people oh my god however i do feel that everything happens for a reason just before my son was born i lost my mom and through the most difficult time of my life my beautiful boy has kept me going i find that my best friend is there for me in the ways my partner isn't so she's still with her partner right he just gets me we have the same banter and he's so unsounding i think there's always been suppressed feelings and that i've tried to ignore the thing is my best friend is also in a relationship and has a two-year-old child. We are both unhappy in our relationship and we've recently become a lot closer. We admitted that we have feelings and we could see each other together and even joke that we could get married if we're both still single at 40.
Starting point is 00:20:18 However, I don't know how to navigate what to do next. I know I'm not happy but I feel so guilty splitting up with the father of my child. Do you think i'm being hasty and i should try and make things work with him or shall i follow my heart and explore things with my best friend that's really hard you're being like this sounds like a movie i'm worried that the connection with your current partner isn't great and that's made you then fancy your yeah it's not actually about the friend he had the opportunity with your friend before when you said no and like you the friend. He had the opportunity with your friend before and you said no. And like, you know, you've had sex with someone.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh yeah, also as a girl, you have sex with someone you fall in love. So like, I know not everyone's the same, but like most of us have that. Like, so the fact that you really didn't. Yeah, to some extent you do. Like you're more likely to. If you were going to fall in love with them,
Starting point is 00:21:04 it would have happened then. Do you know what I i mean especially if you then hang out all the time like it would have happened again like you would have had sex again yeah that worries me i think that you're not happy with your current partner and your best friend you obviously love in some capacity because you love your friends but i don't know i don't know if you're in love it's romantic but i guess when you're at this stage of life, you're thinking more about like, oh my God, like you're my life, like you're my soulmate in a sense. And like you get me and like,
Starting point is 00:21:31 we laugh together and blah, blah, blah. But does she want to have sex with him? Is she looking? You need to ask yourself all these questions. It's not as simple as like, oh, you know, we have a laugh together and he gets me better than my current partner. I definitely think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:44 if you're not happy with your current partner, you and him shouldn't be together and there's nothing worse than a child being brought up in a like obviously try and make it work but it sounds like you've never loved him or been into him and you know that these things happen and I think better to be happy than being in an unhappy relationship and the child picks up on that sort of thing agree but I understand working for it because you want to keep your family together. So I understand all of it. It's really difficult. It throws like such a spanner
Starting point is 00:22:11 when there's a child in the mix because you just can't be that selfish anymore. If the child wasn't in the mix, I'd be like... You wouldn't be with your current partner anyway. Let's just say that as well. Like, you know, I'm guessing that's the reason
Starting point is 00:22:23 why you guys have just stuck it out and you're still still together I think we have to take things back to basics I think you need to yeah the best the thing that going on with the restaurant I don't think that's actually something for you to follow your heart with you haven't once said like it's made me realize how much I'm truly in love with him like I really want to leave my partner it's like none of you're just like yeah we have a laugh it's not enough to break up his relationship with his partner and like they've got a child together too I would explore the thought of being single and finding like your true soulmate that you think you're going to be happy with me too that's the route that I would go down if I was you but it's hard when someone's like so
Starting point is 00:23:06 how when they're like in front of you and you're like because I don't know that there's we have this weird thing about loneliness like some girls like won't leave someone unless they know that there's someone else there for them because it's like the fear of being alone I totally get that like I feel like we all have that to a certain degree but you can't make it be the reason that you stay also it's not really fair on your partner you know it's not fair
Starting point is 00:23:26 and it's not fair on anyone to do that also we really don't want to break up this other situation with this other relationship but they're not happy either but like they've just
Starting point is 00:23:35 had a new baby I think marriages or relationships go through hard times and you've got this new little baby you're both not sleeping you're both not making
Starting point is 00:23:42 time for each other like relationships are really hard particularly in these early stages of childhood i think it's really difficult sophie's got no advice this one she just goes she's just playing with her she's going fucking difficult it's really hard we need to help help a girl out okay right let me think what i would really advise let's put a scenario in the. I want you to give a absolute full blast go at being,
Starting point is 00:24:07 I want you to have sex with your partner every day. Like let's try and reconnect with him. Let's try and get the romance going. If you are icked out by him, it's time to leave. But let's just not think, let's not use the best friend as backup. That's what it feels like. That is exactly, I couldn't say that better myself.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Let's not use the best friend as backup. is back up that's what it feels like that is exactly i couldn't say that about myself let's not use the best friends back up and also let's have consideration for obviously your child but i think also we need to like compartmentalize the baby in your relationship in a sense because when you're happier your baby will be happier and you cope people compare really well so i think that being with your partner doesn't necessarily like this isn't like what you have to be doing do you know what i mean so i think that you need to just like open your eyes and your options and just think what's going to make you really happy but yeah don't use the best friend as a backup yeah i just think like the best friend boy and girls being best friends there's just I just never hear good stories yeah it scares me I'm trying to think if I've had a
Starting point is 00:25:12 boy I've got a boy best friend and I'm fine with that too actually I do Willis but he's gay so yeah that's so fine you're in the clear with that one yeah I'm in the and I're in the clear with that one. Yeah, I'm in the clear. And I'm in the clear with mine too because I'm now best friends with my best friend's fiancé. Like I'm her bridesmaid and she's become a much closer friend to me through the years. More so than he does. But you do hear these stories and they do terrify me slightly. I'm not sure how I...
Starting point is 00:25:41 I've been jealous of people who have a best friend. I think I'd fall in love with them in a heartbeat you just wouldn't be best friends with them yeah I think I'd only be you would then date them and then they wouldn't be your friend like that's the way that that goes who is best friends with just a boy and a girl and that don't hook up like it's such a weird don't know do you know anyone no and I'm racking my brain like have I ever been actually really good mates with a boy if I've not fancied him a little bit? I've always fancied him, like, a little bit. But when you were at school, I went to North Wales.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah, that's maybe the difference. That's the difference. Like, our friendship group is very boy-girl mix. Like, there's so many boys and girls that are best, best, best friends. Yeah, because there were so many boys and there were so many girls. Yes. And we were really good friends from such a young age, you know, in class together and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:26:23 boarding together. So that is where those friendships has come from I know what you mean though like in this stage of our lives the only friendships that I have with with guys are like through my friends husbands or boyfriends 100% so it's weird it's weird mind you I've like got a nice relationship with Jules from Maine Chelsea definitely never fancied him and he definitely never fancied me. And we have a really nice friendship. We're friendly with Miles. We're friends with Miles and there's nothing, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And he's always been like a younger brother to you. Oh my God, yeah, it's true. I was, oh my God, Miles was a good... And nothing ever happened with him. Oh my God, me and Miles used to be like actually really, really, really so close that we never fancied, neither of us ever. Yeah, you just knew it was so platonic. I know, it kind of upset me because I knew he never fancied me.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Why don't you fancy me? Kind of want to reject you. Oh, that's so funny. It is kind of like ego bruising there, isn't it? Not really. In there. Because you're like, it just makes things take like a bit of a like turn. Like when you know they've answered you.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Oh God, now we just can't be friends now because it's so gross. Yeah, it's so true. Okay, so I think we gave advice. I think that that was our advice. Please follow up with us because I'd love to know what happened. And I also feel like we need a little bit more information on how you're truly, truly feeling about your best friend. I think you need to really think.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think you basically are in a fr frantic frenzy you keep mentioning your age which is scary and i get it and people have this weird blueprint but there's no right or wrong you can get married when you're 80 you don't have to get married at all you know i guess i guess it's giving context to like this you're not you're not just like yeah i know where you're going with it but i just think that's a scary blueprint that we all have and we all live by and we shouldn't society makes everyone think oh my god you're 32
Starting point is 00:28:08 like you can't break up I guess she's just being like I'm not 21 anymore like the decisions I make do have a slight more consequence also because she has a child which I do get no but my point is
Starting point is 00:28:19 is like they don't have a more consequence I know you mean being lonely shouldn't be the reason like we shouldn't be thinking oh I'm 30. But we all do.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. No, I get it. It's really hard. Okay, right, are we ready to move on? Yeah. FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots. Guaranteed to hit by 11pm with your chance at the number one feeling, winning. Which beats even the 27th best feeling, saying I do.
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Starting point is 00:29:02 Please play responsibly. Okay, dilemma two. I have this slightly odd dilemma. I've always wanted to keep porn from being some big taboo topic. Oh my God, I'm in. So now and then my partner and I would bring it into the bedroom to spice things up. Have you ever done anything like that? No, I haven't, but I have heard like it apparently. People do it all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I can imagine it's really, I can see why people do. Yeah. Just I would be too much. It's a no from me. It's a no from me. But here's the things, but here's where things got tricky. Every time I go down on my partner, he'd start watching porn on his phone to get himself going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:41 See, this is what I mean. It's tricky. It's a slippery slope. I finally had to say something. It just felt sad. It was like he was getting off. It was like he was off in his own world, imagining someone else in my place. He got it, understood, and agreed to stop.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Then, flash forward to a few more weeks, I planned this romantic weekend getaway, wanting us to just be together. At one point, while we were cosy in bed, I slipped under the covers hoping that this time it would be just us two. But as I came up,
Starting point is 00:30:12 I caught him red-handed watching porn again. I'm sorry. Is he fucking real? Is he for real? So you're going down on him. You're a very generous girlfriend. It sounds like you suck his dick a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I know. And then you come up and he's just watching porn on his phone. Dev's a dumb i would it's like a weird thing because it's crossing the barrier of like not cheating but like no i don't know it's really i totally understand this i totally understand this okay i didn't say anything at the time i was disappointed but i just left it i get that because you don't want to make things like... No, no. Do you trust me?
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'm saying something. I know I would say something. That phone is being thrown across the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be here. I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? Finish yourself off. You're a fucking part of.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah. Then another flash forward. I did something I hadn't done before. I looked through his history. Oh, my God. Oh, no. I wanted to know exactly what he'd been watching turns out he was looking on up a particular star with a very different body type to mine okay this is also really
Starting point is 00:31:12 the weird thing about porn because i'm like do you think that's going to make a difference like he's looking at someone specifically that looks really different to you i don't know if that's obviously vines is got it honestly it really hurt me i felt almost silly like maybe i shouldn't be so hurt but i couldn't help it now i'm left debating do i bring this up or take it out bring this up and take and talk it out or as a as weird as it sounds do i channel this feeling as some kind of gym motivation oh my god this is sounding like this is like leading you into a toxic no no this is making you not feel like you love yourself you're like i need to go change my body in the gym you're perfect you're amazing love yourself and be comfortable and confident in yourself and i can so imagine how this has completely rocked your world because that would
Starting point is 00:32:00 fucking send me into a frenzy i feel like he's having an affair with the girl. Yeah. Even though she doesn't. It's also annoying that it's a specific one over and over again. If it was loads of different random porn, you'd probably just be like, you've got a bit of a porn addiction. Like, can you stop? No, that's really painful. But this is, I get it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Because it's like, it's the same, in my mind, as someone searching someone on Instagram. Yeah, at this stage it is. And listening to the same person over and over and over again. Whilst you're giving them head. You just and over again and you're like what the fuck did you just fucking fancy this girl like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:32:27 also it's just so disrespectful you asked him not to do that I know so how fucking I'm so angry about this he just couldn't help himself no it's really hideous couldn't bear
Starting point is 00:32:35 to like not imagine the porn star for me this is a dump of all the fans I think it needs to be actually a very very serious conversation like look
Starting point is 00:32:42 there has to be a line drawn there's obviously something going on here. It's now making me feel insecure. Like, I now don't want to suck your dick because you're thinking about this other porn star. Also, like, is he ever going down on you? Yeah, I'm sorry. This sounds like a very one-sided...
Starting point is 00:32:54 I'm not sure about this. I'm not. You need to make it sound... Give him an ultimatum. Like, it's me or the porn. And, like, ultimately, you've hurt me so much. I'm not sure if I actually can maybe get over this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 It's making me doubt the way I look.'s not right also can i just say there's nothing wrong with you wanting to go to the gym and like spur out some fucking anger and energy on this absolutely if that's gonna get you like into a place of feeling better about like what he's doing to you don't feel like you need to change your body if you're like i'm just gonna get in the gym feel fucking great about myself regardless for me for me yeah not not for him but it's a really good way to channel anger and like anxiety stress i really do think that but this is like a really gross and it might actually give you the confidence to be like i don't need him yeah yeah like i like just make yourself feel better 100 so i do think that's actually a good good advice this is
Starting point is 00:33:45 seedy this is wrong this is rank i'm not okay with it for me that's downfall i'm sorry if i being married i don't think i genuinely was giving jamie head and i came up and he was watching porn i would literally genuinely be like we might have to get it was it's just i think it's not just a one-time thing this is like this has happened a lot of times and it's not the same porn star over and over again it's really bad no but it's like if you're watching it together it's really different but it's like
Starting point is 00:34:07 really fucking disrespectful to do that it's so bad like on his phone it's like no I really genuinely think
Starting point is 00:34:15 this is not good I'm also quite fascinated that she's clearly like really under the covers not looking at his face whilst giving him head I've never had that what do you mean
Starting point is 00:34:23 looking you look at their face well no I'm not looking at their face but I him head. I've never had that. What do you mean? You look at their face. Well, no, I'm not looking at their face, but I'm never, like, enclosed under the covers. Oh, she's obviously just gone under the covers. She's fully gone under the covers, so you can't see what's going on, or you don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Like, I pull the covers over me. Well, nothing's ever, I guess... I'm like, the covers are off. If he was starting to do it, I would notice it immediately, whereas he's sort of, like, doing it all in secret because you're under the covers. Like, the whole thing's just really weird. I know exactly what you mean.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Although I do think the covers thing, like I have gone under the covers before in my life. Of course. Yeah. But it sounds like it's happening every single time. Then it's like a surprise and you come back up and he's like, porn again. I'm like, I just like how hot under the covers. Jesus Christ, I feel really claustrophobic. Maybe we remove the covers.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Maybe that is the obstacle. Maybe that's the thing that's allowing him to get away with these selfish, selfish acts. We still don't want him like... It's really difficult because like... To be honest,
Starting point is 00:35:12 are you addressing it in the moment? Because I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? And if you... You need to make him feel... Oh God, this is really toxic. You need to make him feel
Starting point is 00:35:19 slightly ashamed about doing it. I think it's so bad. We're having an intimate moment. I'm your fucking girlfriend. Like we're meant to be in love on this amazing getaway weekend and you're watching a fucking porn star over and over again
Starting point is 00:35:28 whilst I'm sucking your dick. Yeah. Do you want me to do the same thing? Right, bend me over and I'll get my favorite. Yeah. Absolutely. Man out.
Starting point is 00:35:37 What's a good example? I was like, get my favorite. I'll get Bradley Cooper out. Yeah. On Star is Born and there you go. Yeah. See how he feels
Starting point is 00:35:45 I would do that you need to really put that scenario in his head like do you understand like no like this is really not okay do not bring this up and the reason it's not okay
Starting point is 00:35:53 is because if you didn't care and you were like I don't really care but do you think it's normal like it doesn't affect me at all I'd be like if you don't care get on with it
Starting point is 00:36:00 this is affecting your confidence and it would affect mine 100% I really really don't like it. It's affecting mine now. I'm seething. I'm seething. Even now, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:09 I know that like boys, when I'm not around, when we're not around, they're going to watch porn. We've had this conversation. To me, if they're watching porn when I'm not there, I couldn't give a fuck about it.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah, same. As long as it's not super weird when you can get like, I know there's these weird cartoon porn stuff that like happens in the world now. However, if he was watching the same girl and Googling XYZ, I would be devastated even if he's away in Bali in his lap.
Starting point is 00:36:28 What's that really famous porn star that went on Emily Ratt's podcast? I know. It's really beautiful. She's so stunning. What's her name? Rose. She's muddled for Diesel and stuff. She walks in catwalks now.
Starting point is 00:36:39 If he was searching her. You know what? It's also difficult. The world of OnlyFans is also difficult for this because it's like all these know what it's also difficult the world of OnlyFans is also difficult for this because it's like all these celebrities that were just celebrities or girls on Instagram
Starting point is 00:36:48 are now also basically doing porn for all of our boyfriends to go and look at if they want and you're like for fuck's sake how do we then feel about that
Starting point is 00:36:56 it's really and if they were doing that over and over again to me that is like a dumb pun I'm like you're emotionally cheating on me yeah
Starting point is 00:37:01 with a fantasy of someone that I know I feel so insecure I'd be like I don't want to yeah with a fantasy of someone that I know I just feel so insecure I'd be like I don't want to get naked in front of you same
Starting point is 00:37:08 I would find it really difficult because that's the standard like that's what you're looking at yeah and I'm not her yeah because you're only yourself right you know what
Starting point is 00:37:17 and then even if you was looking at someone who looked you know had my colouring I'd be like well why aren't you looking at fucking me yeah
Starting point is 00:37:22 so none of it's okay with my view it's a really hard thing because it is like a certain level of fantasising is totally fine and innocent
Starting point is 00:37:29 and I think it's natural but when it goes beyond a certain point are you ever having sex and picturing someone out as fucking kinky no no no no but like when I watch
Starting point is 00:37:36 a sexy film I'm like oh wow vampire diaries I'm constantly watching that or I'm watching tell me lies right now is what it's called
Starting point is 00:37:44 that's really quite kinky and I'm like hmm yeah so I think there's a certain amount of like innocent fantasizing that can go on especially with boys with porn I get that but the same thing over and over again this is not acceptable and you know what he could have been doing that in private and it could have been a phase and he could have got over it but he's doing it when you're sucking him off which is a whole new thing it's really it really needs to be addressed like you just it's really needs to be addressed i'm upset even at its slide but i get it you were probably embarrassed and like ashamed for him but let me tell you it's also quite a weird thing you know when things in the moment happen you're so stunned you're like what the fuck you
Starting point is 00:38:22 don't really know what to do or how to react yeah and you're so in your own head i get it yeah wow you've got to follow up please tell us okay what you need to do is you need to address it with him and be like by the way and i'm go and be angry because i'm angry and just yeah just don't be afraid to express yourself in the fear of like what he's what his reaction will be because we're two girls and we're not in the same relationship we both have different standards and we're both being like that's not yeah you need to address it dilemma three hi girls i'm hoping i can get some advice on a huge dilemma my sister's getting married next summer and i have been made the maid of honor my sister and i are really close she's my best friend but since becoming maid of honor i have had an opportunity
Starting point is 00:39:03 to move to australia with one of my closest friends i'm 24 and feel a little bored and lost in london i want to spread my wings live my life and meet new people gorgeous fucking love the sound of that yeah when i told my sister i was moving to australia she wasn't happy she said i'll regret the move for the rest of my life if i leave the uk before her wedding i would literally say the same thing she said i won't be able to support her how she wants me to if i move for the rest of my life if I leave the UK before her wedding. I would literally say the same thing. She said I won't be able to support her how she wants me to if I move as the distance will be a barrier and I won't be able to go to the hen do. I'm really not sure what to do. Do I go to Australia in February and come back for the wedding and support her as much
Starting point is 00:39:36 as I can while I'm over there? Or do I stay in London for another year so I can be there for your sister? No, you're just being such a riser. Yeah, you're just being a riser. Also, you come back for the wedding and come back for the hen. You say all these things about like, I wouldn't want you to be pregnant if being such a riser. Yeah, you're just being a weeb. You come back for the wedding and come back for the hen. You say all these things about like, I wouldn't want you to be pregnant if you're my riser. But ultimately, if you are, what am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:39:50 I don't give a fuck if any of my friends wanted to meet. I'd be like, go. I'd be happy for them. Yeah. Your wedding's so much about you anyway. Like, it's so selfish. It's just like, I can't allow. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah. The thing is though, like, if my sister was going to leave, if one of my sisters was going to be abroad, I would be like, it wouldn't be anything to do with my wedding. I'd be like, my sister was gonna leave if one of my siblings is gonna be bored I would be like it wouldn't be anything to do in my wedding I'd be like you can't leave me full stop you need to stay in here all the family is here we all need to be together but like just maybe that's where she's coming back for the wedding yeah she's just like she doesn't want you to go also like sometimes you really need support from like your sister I guess you're getting married like it is a deal. So maybe she's like freaking out
Starting point is 00:40:25 like, oh my God, don't leave me. Look, I would be absolutely devastated if my sister did that before my wedding. However, you wouldn't stop her. You'd be like,
Starting point is 00:40:32 what can you do? I don't want you to go, but what can you do? Absolutely. Like it's really sad for both of you because I understand why your sister, like I would say the same thing to my sister.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I would be devastated if my sister moved away from me. But you've got to do what makes you happy. You still support her in so many ways. I mean, ultimately, all to move away from me. But you've got to do what makes you happy. You still support her in so many ways. I mean, ultimately, all you have to do is, there's not loads you can do. You're not, like, wiping her bum up until the wedding.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I do get it. But, like, planning the hen and stuff is going to be impossible from Australia, virtually, because of the time. Actually, you know what? No, it's not. Yeah, but they can reply the next day. You can still email everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:00 There's also windows of time where there's still working hours that work for both countries, isn't there? Like, there's a few. Even if it's a day like, work for both countries, isn't there? There's a few. Even if it's a day like, it will be harder, but you will be able to do it. It's possible. Come back for the hen, come back for the wedding. Yeah, don't miss either of them.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Commit to doing those. Do not miss either of those. And commit to coming back to them. And don't wait a whole other year. What do we think is going to happen if the sister throws her toys at the bride and says, right, we're not friends anymore. I'm revoking the maid of honor. Well, screw you.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Oh my God. That's really quite toxic if honour. Well, screw you. Oh my God, well, that's really quite toxic if your sister does that to you. Then we've got a whole other problem. Toxic's our new word. Everything's toxic. We've got a whole other problem.
Starting point is 00:41:33 That is toxic though. Yeah. That's a whole other issue. Look, I'm only going off like my relationship with my sister. make people like
Starting point is 00:41:39 be so mean to people. Like, I would never do that to my sister. I swear we've had people write in to us about like, worse shit than this. Yeah, I would never do that to my sister. I swear we've had people write in to us about like, worse shit than this.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, worse shit than this. Shit. Did I say that? Shit. No, I don't know why that just came out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That's weird. yeah, but please tell us what happens because if your sister is going to be a bitch and she's like, you can't be a bridesmaid if you move to Australia.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Sorry. I'm booking my flight tomorrow morning. Off I go then. Can't threaten me. Yeah, that's really mean. But you know what? Sometimes sisters do just get really aggressive with each other. I would say that to Georgia.
Starting point is 00:42:14 The sibling, yeah, the sibling barrier is different to a friendship barrier. Without how aggressive you can be. But ultimately, like, she will come around. Like, if she's a good sister, she'll come around. She'll be like, if this makes you happy, go for it. I also feel like you should sit your sister down and be like, I will be there for you 110%. There'll be a bit of a time difference.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm going to be there for the hen. I'm going to plan the hen. It's going to be just as good as if I was in the UK. I'm obviously going to be there for the wedding. I'll be there before the wedding. And I'll be there after the wedding. Okay? I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I feel sad for the sister. Just make some promises to her. I had the thought of that happening to me, though. If my sister was like I'm off and moving to Australia on the year I was getting married I'd be actually my heart would break
Starting point is 00:42:49 yeah I'd be sad too but like sorry we're making you feel bad like you've got to do your thing you've got to live your life babe you've got to live your life babe 24 is a fucking amazing age as well it's the best age
Starting point is 00:42:59 you know what just before 25 people are still going oh you're such a baby and you're like oh yeah I'm so like naive and young and fresh. But you're old enough to do everything.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You're old enough to be taken seriously. But you're young enough to still be the baby. And you're young. And it's just wonderful. Yeah, you know who you are. You're starting to know who you are at 24. Yeah, you're falling into yourself, I think, at that age. And 24, 25, 26 is a real falling age.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You're broken up with the teenage boyfriends. And you're kind of a single stick. Yeah, you're in a new era. Yeah, you're broken up with like the teenage boyfriends and you're kind of you're in a new era you're in a new era you're either dating it's such an exciting time of life okay well let us know
Starting point is 00:43:30 what you're gonna do but I don't I don't think you've done anything wrong and look you wanna move to Australia you wanna move to Australia be a free soul
Starting point is 00:43:36 follow your dreams you've gotta just like talk it out with your sister you might have some tears you might have some arguments but your blood runs like a mortar okay love you guys
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