Wednesdays - 62. He's a multi-millionaire...but he made me split the bill!

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

Hey Tinies!This week, Sophie’s spilling the tea on her weekend at the Hayu Fan Fest, and all the behind the scenes action with the Real Housewives and her bizarre link to Beverly Hills OG Lisa Vande...rpump. Plus, with the announcement of the Real Housewives of London, the girls draft up their ultimate list of names to represent the ladies of London. Melissa’s also got a new purchase that will save your legs this winter from the dreaded laddered tights!And on the dilemmas, we’ve got a Tiny whose boyfriend’s parents seems way too preoccupied with his ex! We’re also unpacking a spicy debate: a millionaire takes a Tiny out on a date, and gets her to foot part of the bill. Is expecting him to a pay a given? Or are we saying she’s a bit of a gold digger…Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/ If you have a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma send to wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk, SLIDE into our DMs @wednesdayspodcast--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer: @gurlinaheer_Editor: @kat.milsomExec: Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Melissa, are you a doctor? I want to be, but I'm not. I'm not a doctor either. And we're not psychologists. We're not. We're not experts'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and we're not experts in anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help coming up on this week's episode of wednesdays I'm debriefing all about the Hey You Fan Fest and meeting all of the Real Housewives.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And we're also putting forward our dream cast of the Real Housewives of London. And we've got more on your dilemmas too. We are helping out a tiny whose boyfriend's family keep mentioning his ex. One of our tinies has been on a date with a multi-millionaire, but is she being a gold digger for expecting him to pick up the bill? And so much more. Let's get into the app. Hello and welcome. Welcome, welcome friends and family all of you. I'm hot because we're drinking tea it's my new thing. Can we talk through what this talk is too? Can you would you just just
Starting point is 00:01:40 actually I should tell you so I did a gut test half of my gut test I still need to do the pooping situation with Pippa Campbell you know what test did you do well I didn't I just told her all my symptoms and I went through every single thing I eat like did a food diary for a week did the whole thing fair enough we worked out that I eat very healthy but I eat too regularly so I don't let my gut rest yeah I'm dehydrated because I down like cold water in the morning and I down it like at the gym or I'll down it before bed but I don't let my gut rest I'm dehydrated because I down like cold water in the morning and I down it like at the gym
Starting point is 00:02:07 or I down it before bed but I don't really sip sip sip throughout the day that is also why you do 10,000 wheeze at night because your blood is so unregulated it's just not well
Starting point is 00:02:15 and also guys I eat far too much sugar I did not think I did you know neither fruit is so fucking high in sugar I eat so much fruit
Starting point is 00:02:24 and I have like a bar of this chocolate that I thought was really healthy. So we've mixed it up here because I still need that chocolate fix. I've got 100% cacao, shards. Yeah, but is it quite bitter? It's not great, but I'm not eating the whole packet. Whereas if that was the 60, I would have finished. I can't stop myself. That's the problem because it hits the spot, but you're like, it's done now.
Starting point is 00:02:44 After like one little bit it touches the great thing anyway and Melissa had the 60 which I bought because I knew I'd want it but I'm just trying to stay on that for at least a week just to soothe my gut anyway I'll keep it all updated I'm gonna do a poo sample this weekend so we'll see if I've got like so excited for you but we're gonna see if like my gut bacteria is of balance all those things but we will be keeping it updated, I didn't have to change my supplements. My supplementation is great. It's just small habits. Teas are great because they really get absorbed into your gut.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So they hydrate really well. So what I'm drinking here is dandelion tea. I love a dandelion tea, but I will say it's a diuretic, which means it's good for like your water retention. But it does make you need a wee. And I don't like the taste of it, to be honest. So I mix it with like a cinnamon. Licice is amazing licorice tea and bob's your uncle it's like we're in also i think licorice is um also a diuretic so it makes
Starting point is 00:03:33 you need a wee even more licorice is really good as a glucose stabilizer so it helps with blood sugar it's good with something so like it stops the cravings to like cinnamon and licorice there's so much you can learn. So much to learn. I don't think I really speak about it much on here because Melissa obviously isn't a big fan, but I have watched Real Housewives since I can remember. I love it so much. I've gone back to Beverly Hills watching it from the beginning. And I not only met one, not two, not three, but four housewives.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Who's your ultimate dream housewife to meet? Lisa Vanderpump. Yeah. Lisa Vanderpump. I would love to meet her. And let me tell you why. End of season. Look, Lisa, we all know you're great at your job.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But like, I was kind of like, I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of her. But let's go back to season one. She is just amazing. She's just amazing. I just can't. Really? And can I tell you a little bit of tea? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 This is really interesting. I don't know if I've told you. So we rent our place. We're renting at the moment. We've just bought somewhere. And the owner of our flat is Lisa Vanderpump's husband, Ken's son. So it's Lisa Vanderpump. And Lisa Vanderpump is his mother.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Stepmom. Stepmom. And in season five, you meet Warren. Oh my God, he's on fire. You meet him. And she goes, he's self-made and he owns loads of property in where i live and i'm like i watch it and i was like he's stunning i must watch so what episode is that he's in i think it was like series five he lives in
Starting point is 00:04:56 santa fe it's unbelievable wow it was really really iconic i just saw how are the wells colliding right now god it's what is it called six degree six people yeah six degrees so anyway it was really amazing oh I will tell you though I've got these like
Starting point is 00:05:10 nails as you can see like they're natural by the way but they're long and um I was desperate for the loo desperate nervous loo situation before going on stage
Starting point is 00:05:18 they're like five four three two one I'm like I need the loo I ran to the loo I get my nails and I yank my tights up because I've got them in my ear going ladder ladder ladder ladder all down my legs back to front there was three ladders going on I come out I go I've ladded my tights and they're
Starting point is 00:05:38 like on you go and I get on stage filmed it's on hey you on the channel and I walk out in basically a thong with ladders oh my god I'm gonna solve that problem for you what this is a hack I actually wanted to talk about this oh my god I went into Caledonia and I was like I need to buy like 50 pairs of these tights because I ladder them all the time getting in and out of taxi the only black tights I believe looks good are the ones that are really sheer like the ones you're wearing but they ladder so easily because they're so thin right yes Yes. There is a new type of tie I bought seven pairs
Starting point is 00:06:07 they were all sold out. They are like a tight that has actually a thick normal tight that will never ladder but it looks like a really really really sheer tight and it's amazing for the winter because they're warm
Starting point is 00:06:20 and they never ladder. Fucking unbelievable. Have you tried them? I haven't tried them on yet. I only got them on the weekend I can't wait. I'm worried that they'll look weird. I'm them on yet. I only got them on the weekend, I can't wait. I'm worried that they won't, they'll look weird.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm worried that they'll look like... They were on the model and I was like, I need these tights. And she was like, oh, these are actually these things. And I was like, what? I'm blown away.
Starting point is 00:06:34 No, seriously, that's unbelievable. I was shook. Sheer effect thermal tights, guys. Fucking game changer. That's manifesting right now. What just happened here? I honestly,
Starting point is 00:06:41 I also wrote on my notes to Ben, I need to talk about it today. What's going on? So there you go, problem solved. Your stylist should have known that. But yeah, amazing hat. That is unbelievable because those tights are like thin. They're fucking pain in the ass.
Starting point is 00:06:55 They look amazing. They are so temperamental. They're going to last you a matter of minutes or hours. Also, they do not, you're not warm. Your legs are quivering. Oh no, you might as well be bare legged. It's a look. So anyway, carry on with your story.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Okay, so the night before the fan fest we all go for dinner at Mount Street and it's like a really intimate dinner gorgeous 25 people we've got the Hay people
Starting point is 00:07:10 we've got the Bravo people and we've got the Talon now we have not watched which we need to Summer House and Southern Charm which are essentially I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:07:19 made in Chelsea-esque Summer House is I don't know where it's set but it's like fit young people shagging and whatever. Wow. And then Southern Charm
Starting point is 00:07:27 is set in Charleston. Anyway, these two guys walk in. Jamie obviously makes best friends with them. Austin and Craig. Craig is stunning. Craig. Craig with a K?
Starting point is 00:07:37 I think with a C, but it's not Craig. It's Craig. Anyway, gorgeous, lovely boys. And Paige DeSabo, she's huge and she's got a podcast and she's amazing. She is from Summer House and he's from Southern Charm and they crossed over. So it was like a TOWIE and a Made in Chelsea falling in love and they seep in and it's just like iconic and amazing. So that happened. We sat by them, made really good friends with them.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Love them. God, America's just so big and there's so many things and amazing. So that happened, we sat by them, made really good friends with them. Love them. God, America's just so big and there's so many things and shows. And reality over there, they're like actual idols. They're like actors over here. Sutton from Rojas, Lisa Beverly Hills, there's everything. Didn't she get really upset
Starting point is 00:08:14 with someone once? There's like a quite famous like clip of her that like resurfaces quite a lot. Name them. Name them. Maybe it's that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Then there's Lisa Barlow who is everything and more. Like she is like, my god like did you do your own glam like she's so husky and she's just amazing they came on they had two makeup artists each for the podcast they're glam they brought their makeup artists to the dinner so they're constantly retouching it was phenomenal it was phenomenal I sat next to the guy who ghost writ for Erika Jayne pretty little mass
Starting point is 00:08:48 oh yeah yeah yeah the whole thing was just unbelievable it was unbelievable wow and then obviously Real Housewives of London has now been confirmed
Starting point is 00:08:54 yeah I saw that whole video and Monkey Kingdom which did Made in Chelsea are doing it let's fucking put Charlotte Tilbury on there and Kate Moss
Starting point is 00:09:01 amen if we can get but that's the calibre of people Victoria Beckham always being phenomenal I But that's the calibre of people. Victoria Beckham always being a phenomenon. I mean, if they could get. That's the calibre of people that are in America. That should be on it. That is who should be on it.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yes. God knows who is going to be on it. God knows. Quite looking forward to seeing. But if they're going to do it properly, it should be of that. Like Ada Williams, Robbie Williams' wife. Oh yeah, fucking hell. Exactly. That's the vibe. That is the type of person we need of that. Like Ada Williams, Robbie Williams' wife. Oh yeah, fucking hell. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:25 That's the vibe. That is the type of person we need on that. Kate Moss, Victoria Beckham, Charlotte Tilbury. She would bring the vibes. I can imagine her being really jakes on this. Charlotte. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be so good.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Wait, I've got someone else. I've got someone else. Who else could there be? You've got to have a young, spicy, like... Sienna Miller. Oh, Sienna Miller and her young boyfriend. That would be fascinating. I do think Sienna Miller wouldn't be brutal enough, though.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I feel like she's too nice, but she'll be like young still on in there because you know how they had denise richards like they have like someone who was like super famous like and then they're now just a housewife and like they live their life like semi-retired from their job but they're still very much so on the scene that would be amazing rita aura i think would give some spice oh god yes she would be fantastic and she's London talk to me about Toes Away Toes Away
Starting point is 00:10:08 he's currently got a barley belly no that's not me Karma he didn't even do anything wrong Karma for just
Starting point is 00:10:16 not being here Karma for just leaving me so I'm having to just like train myself to be alone again how are we doing
Starting point is 00:10:22 it and I'm worried that all you do is you just fill his time with FaceTimes, which is not being alone. No, there's a huge time difference. We can't do that. No FaceTimes with other people. Like you're still not alone.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Oh yeah, but not in the evenings. That stays the same whether he's here or not. I'm still FaceTiming exactly the same. How do you have the time to FaceTime so many people a day? If I'm walking somewhere, I'll just FaceTime them. Lovely. I need to do that more. I never FaceTime people. And it's because you're not driving more you're in the car you're distracted
Starting point is 00:10:48 it's if I'm walking and I'm like oh you know I've got an hour ahead of me I'll catch up with this person yeah lovely I'm just getting more into like TV shows okay what one are we watching so I re-watched the whole of the perfect couple because my mum hadn't seen it so I re-watched the whole of that and you know what? If you watch it a second time, you pick on so many more things and it's so much better. I'm watching Slow Horses,
Starting point is 00:11:09 which is fucking amazing. Really? I've got told to get into this and I really couldn't. It's so good and so funny. It's basically like the shit MI5 agents that get put into this place called Slough House. And it's really good.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's an English TV show. It's on Apple TV, I believe. And it's very British humour, like very dry. really good. It's an English TV show. It's on Apple TV, I believe. And it's very British humour, like very dry. Really good. Really funny. I love it. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh my God, okay. I need to start watching it. Is it the same standard as Yellowstone? Very different. Did you ever watch, what was that thing, Line of Duty? No.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Similar lines to that. Line of Duty, I thought that was a war programme. No, Line of Duty is like police trying to like figure out organised crime shit like that
Starting point is 00:11:48 it's really good but there's way more humour in Slow Horses you would love it I am watching Yellowstone as well there's a lot of TV shows going on in my life
Starting point is 00:11:54 oh my god Yellowstone the new ones just add I need to watch it I've got to wait for Toby to get back how good is Yellowstone
Starting point is 00:11:59 though really good and how stunning is the girl I'm like obsessed with her which one the daughter
Starting point is 00:12:04 Beth Beth she's a nightmare she's amazing I think she's like the most sexy woman And how stunning is the girl? I'm like obsessed with her. Which one? The daughter. Beth. Beth. She's a nightmare. She's amazing. I think she's like the most sexy woman, most stunning sexy woman I've ever seen in my entire life. I do love her.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Obsessed. Sometimes she annoys me though. Yeah, no, she's an actual serious Tuesday. You know who else I find really annoying? What? Casey's wife. Oh my God. So beautiful, delicate flower, gorgeous woman, but fuck me, she's annoying.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I know, Casey's so fit though. And Casey's so fit and so cool and just like so like rough. I know, but he's got really small hands. Oh, Sophie hates a small hand on a guy. If she notices a small hand, it's just... Because that is your ick. It's my biggest ick. A small hand is your ick.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I know, I feel really mean to the people who have small hands. And she'll tell people, she'll go, tiny hands. And I'm like, I know what that means. I don't know what it is. Like, I can't deal with tiny hands on a man. Like, I can if, like, you're my friend, but just, like, fancying-wise. But, like, some guys don't like blonde hair. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Totally. You're totally. They don't like the smell of roses. You are entitled to it. But he has tiny hands. And I have to look past it because I fancy him so much. And then he gets his little mitts out. And I'm like, oh, God, I can't see it.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I can't see it. I can't see it. My't see it I can't see it my god now you've told me that I'm gonna notice it I know you will but how fit the men in the cowboy hats and like
Starting point is 00:13:10 I know it's a whole thing and Kevin Costner Casey Dutton it's a whole vibe the dad or Casey because I love the dad oh both of them the dad as well
Starting point is 00:13:17 I know stunning and you know that he sings he's some of the songs in it that's Kevin Costner so does Casey I can't bear it they're both country singers
Starting point is 00:13:24 and Kevin Costner lives that life and walks around with't bear it. They're both country singers. And Kevin Costner lives that life in real life. He walks around with a cowboy hat on. So does Casey. They're both cowboys in real life. It's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I'd like to go to Yellowstone. I've been. And I've been to Yellowstone National Park. Did you ride horses? I grew up with horses. I had a couple ponies back in the day.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So spoiled, I know. But I did. Oh my god, I never did. And you know, I used to pretend to this girl at school that I had a pony it was like this really weird joke
Starting point is 00:13:46 we've all done such and I lied and said I had a pony called Honey I never did I fully lied and to the date I reckon if she ever
Starting point is 00:13:54 listens to this podcast she'll be like you are a psychopath I knew it because I lied till the day I left school saying I had a pony called Honey
Starting point is 00:14:01 and you had to follow through with the lie as well I know it was really disturbing and she was like caramel my pony stunning I think I printed a picture of her shut the you had to follow through with the lie as well. I know, it was really disturbing. And she was like, caramel, my pony's stunning. I think I printed a picture of her. Shut the fuck up. She went onto Google Images.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I went to Great Length. Okay, right. Okay, right. We've really yapped on, so should we get into the dilemma? FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots. Guaranteed to hit by 11pm with your chance
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Starting point is 00:15:06 Oh my God, no, I can't. That is horrific. Horrific. They'll tell her stories about who his ex was seen kissing on nights out, what she's doing or where she's been. I'm sorry. They've even messaged him gossip about her that they picked up from other people. This all makes me feel extremely awkward.
Starting point is 00:15:20 This is bizarre. My boyfriend doesn't engage in the conversation, and I think he finds it quite awkward too. I thought by a year in that it would have stopped, but it hasn't. Oh my God. I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with his family, but it's making me feel uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Am I being too sensitive? She must be fascinating. She must be fascinating. It doesn't sound like they're wooing over her, they're gossiping about what she's done on a night out. She must be quite a character. Totally. That's all I can imagine.
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's bizarre otherwise. You wouldn't be gossiping about what she's done on a night out. She must be quite a character. Totally. That's all I can imagine. That's bizarre otherwise. You wouldn't be gossiping, lolling, like, oh my God, do you hear what she did here at night? Oh my God. Also, like, guess who she's got with? Like, is she famous? That's what I'm going for. That's also, yeah, and that's not like a,
Starting point is 00:15:55 we loved her so much, she was a part of the family vibe. No, that's more like, oh my God, she kind of went off the rails and like, let's gossip about her. There's something to discuss here. It's like gossip. I wouldn't think it's anything to worry about, but it would piss me off. It's very unfamily-like.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Like my parents just do not do that sort of thing. So I would be very confused. Like maybe my sister would, but my parents are not gossiping. I've never had them gossip in my life. Neither. So that's just a start, but I wouldn't like that. When do you think you grow out of gossiping then? Well, things just don't happen as we get older.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like, how boring. Like, nothing happens now. But my parents aren't even interested if I gossip to them. They're literally like... Yeah, I know. And I'm just like, that's quite juicy gossip. And they're like, couldn't care less. You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:16:36 I think they still think that we're too young to have those conversations with them. Because I know... You believe. I just think, like, you know when, like, something happens in their friendship group. Yeah. And, like, someone has an affair or something. Yeah. And, like, the parents talk about it and are, like, so shocked and horrified.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Gossiping isn't really the word for it. It's probably, like, they'll discuss it, but they won't be as, like, excited about the fact that something bad's happened. They'll be quite like, oh, my God, it's just terrible. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And then it's over. Or, like, family drama. Like, I was never told, like. Family drama. Family drama. But then, like, mean? Yeah. And then it's over. Or like family drama. Like I was never told like family drama.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Family drama. But then like a certain age, I guess they like then discuss it in front of you. And you're like, what? What the fuck happened there? And they're like, oh yeah, this, this and this happened like seven years ago. And you're like, have you not told me this before? Either they think we're too young or they're just not interested in discussing it. So it is weird that they're sat there gossiping about your ex, your boyfriend's ex.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Unless it's like a really small village and it's like, oh, that's it is weird that they're sat there gossiping about your ex, your boyfriend's ex. Unless it's like a really small village and it's like, oh, that's kind of very, they're all intertwined and they know said ex's parents and she's getting with
Starting point is 00:17:33 their other family friend and it's that sort of vibe. Otherwise, it's a little bit strange. I would just be very, very comfortable. It's making me feel uncomfortable. However,
Starting point is 00:17:40 don't address it with the parents. It's going to create a rift. Just brush it off. They'll get bored of it at some point. If they don't, they're odd. Listen, there's nothing wrong with speaking to your boyfriend. Your fucking parents are still obsessed with your ex. What's that about? Also, it's kind of mean. Why are they
Starting point is 00:17:52 gossiping about her all the time? I don't like that. If you want to do that in your own time, fine, but don't do it in front of me. I'm the new girlfriend. You're meant to make me feel welcome. It's really inappropriate and just odd. By every sense of the word, odd. If I was you, right? If this is me yeah
Starting point is 00:18:05 next time you go around you've met them a few times now you've been together for a year you're solid with your boyfriend you've got his support on this next time you're with them if they bring her up
Starting point is 00:18:13 be like god you guys really give this girl a lot of air time I must know what all the fuss is about I'd be like someone show me a picture someone tell me
Starting point is 00:18:20 was she amazing or something yeah what's the deal am I missing something here I need to know and either that'll then prompt them into telling you what the fuck they're so obsessed with or they'll stop Was she amazing or something? Yeah, what's the deal? Am I missing something here? I need to know. And either that will then prompt them into telling you what the fuck they're so obsessed with, or they'll stop. Yeah, because it's inappropriate and really odd.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Also, I just don't like the whole atmosphere of them, like, gossiping. Like, I can't have something to talk about other than, like, your son's ass. Why do they care what she's, like, a 20-something-year-old is, like, kissed in the club last weekend? Why do they care?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Why are they even finding that shit out? I don't know. I'm fascinated. It must be a very small village. It's all I can imagine. Like, there's no way anyone would know that I got with such and such, let alone, like, my ex's parents finding out. I think there's nothing wrong with you feeling like this.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Definitely address it with your boyfriend. Be like, can you please tell me why they're so obsessed? And then if it doesn't stop next time they do it, just bring it up. No, listen, I've got an ex I'm still fascinated by. I'm fascinated by all your exes. We love to talk about the ex. We love an ex. Love an ex.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It gives us something to talk about. There's always drama with the exes. Your ex is always drama. I mean, your ex is on a reality show, so we get great gossip from that. And there's always a lot of gossip from it. So I kind of get it from that perspective. I love my friends' exes too. Like, if I were to bump into any of my friends' exes, my heart would flutter.
Starting point is 00:19:24 At the fact like to report to them and be like by the way I just bumped into them do you remember I saw one of your exes the other week
Starting point is 00:19:30 and it was honestly the best moment of my life he was driving through the soft top compatible and I stopped in my tracks I went oh my god
Starting point is 00:19:37 it's and my whole day was filled with joy because I couldn't wait to report to you that I seen him like why so I kind of get that
Starting point is 00:19:44 but like we're best friends and we're in that age and it is our peers' ex. Very different to your son or daughter's ex. No. I couldn't give a crap. Again, my advice stays the same on that one. I agree. Dilemma two.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Hey ladies, I recently went on a first date with a guy whilst we were chatting he was telling me pieces of information about his life he mentioned his job and where he lived and he was painting himself out to be a successful person when the bill came i offered to split it with him which he accepted right oh not sure how i feel about that's a great offer i'm not sure how i feel about them excepting it I know weird weird I just don't like it I'm quite traditional in the respect I just like the guy to pay for the first date
Starting point is 00:20:29 I couldn't agree more Or the first meal The first round of drinks I don't think split is more offensive for me Let's go to another pub And I'll buy you a round I'd rather fucking buy the whole meal Let's not split the bill
Starting point is 00:20:37 Same Like what are you going to expect The 50p up to 25 each After the date he suggested Going back to his to chat some more We hopped in an Uber To a very nice part of town And upon getting to his house I realised that he was a multi-millionaire
Starting point is 00:20:49 It was one of the biggest and most luxurious places I've ever been to All we did was kiss but when I left he suggested meeting up again for another date Now I'm in a bit of a conundrum I love that this works Me too Conundrum, I'm in a conundrum On our first date he accepted splitting the bill with me Even though he clearly makes enough money to fit it all himself.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I want to go on a second date, but I don't want to pay my share as the money is obviously less an issue for him than it is for me. However, I'm worried that if I don't offer to pay upon date number two, that he is going to think that I'm gold digger and that that will be the end of the road for our relationship. Am I wrong for expecting him to pick up the bill right here on now that i've seen how rich he really is or do i keep investing in our relationship as there's signs of a reward at the end okay listen the reason he made you split
Starting point is 00:21:34 the bill is because he's a millionaire he's obviously been used for his money so many times and he's just like keeping his wits about he doesn't want to get into a relationship with a girl who is after his money so fair play to him for splitting the bill. Don't make him pay on the second date. If you make him fall in love with you, he'll then start paying for you. Can I just say there's nothing wrong with being like, no, I'm going to get this one. You can get the next. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:56 That is a really nice way of putting it. You can't, now that you've seen that he's really rich, just be like... Be like overthinking it. He's got to pay every single one. That is really not a good way of thinking. You can't think like that no look I actually think now
Starting point is 00:22:07 that the richer you've seen him you should actually even more so be like no I want to pay this one because I would be like yeah I really don't want you to think that I'm with you
Starting point is 00:22:15 because I've just seen how fucking minted you are so I would overplay it it's a difficult one because if he's suggesting really fancy places for you to go
Starting point is 00:22:23 and he's like super rich and you're like meh okay well this's suggesting really fancy places for you to go and he's like super rich and you're like okay well this is like really a lot for me and I want to treat you to this that's like frustrating but I think for the second date you should be like let's just go to this lovely pub to take him to a nice pub and you pay and then you'd be like you can get the next one you can take us on the next date so it is you get the next one absolutely I think splitting the bill feels to me strange listen first date for me in my mind this is my dream scenario no matter how fucking rich or poor they are they pay for the whole thing if they're taking me on a date they've asked me out they're gonna pay for the full bill I'm gonna offer but they insist next day I get or we go
Starting point is 00:23:00 on to somewhere else for a round of drinks later in the evening, I'll get this round. I think that just feels a little bit more romantic than splitting the bill. Totally. For me personally. But I think since you've seen his house, I'm like, is he that shy about showing how rich he is? Because why is he taking her out to his fancy flat and wherever he lives? He probably just, like, money's not an object. Like, he probably didn't even think two things about it.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I don't think it's a big deal he made you split the bill. Like, he probably is thinking, if I like her, I'll spoil her rotten. He could buy you whatever. He's clearly got so much money, he should be paying for the bills. That is completely the wrong way of thinking, and that is no. I think he probably wanted to make you feel equal with him in terms of money-wise. And was like, let's split the bill, empower you. He's obviously not going to be stingy, is he?
Starting point is 00:23:43 So give him the chance to go for the second one. Maybe he probably obviously not going to be stingy is he so like give him the chance to go for the second one maybe he probably will pay for the second date but you know if he doesn't and it is a splitting the bill thing you do melissa's rise and be like no no let me you know what actually i'll get this you can get the next one give him a little wink yeah whatever you have to do give him a wink you get this one i am have had feedback from someone before that made their date split the bill and he was like, I wasn't going to pay for the whole bill when I didn't want to see her again.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And I was like, oh my God, savage. He was like, I don't want to waste my money. I was like, oh my God. Oh my God, that's so horrific. How savage. But also kind of get it. I'm like, fair enough. He's like, why would I want to invest in something that I don't want?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Kind of thing. I was like, yeah, okay. I so get it. Look, I get both sides. I also get why he's probably thinking she could have found out that I'm really wealthy and I'm not going to let her. I don't want to set the tone for the relationship. He wasn't trying to hide it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 If he was trying to blag to her that he was super successful in the first date, do you know what I mean? No, but taking her to his house, that's his house. He can't change that. But setting the precedent, like I'm going gonna pay and spoil you for everything ever forever is setting a different tone to like this is where I live what can I do yes setting a different tone to just being like let's work the world we're chilled like you know what I like which I've had before when you've offered to pay the bill and they go no no I insist I want to get this one I'm taking you out but you can get the
Starting point is 00:25:03 next one I like it when they say that because then they're insinuating there's going to be another date. You then have an opportunity to buy me something, but I'm treating you to this because I suggested taking you out. And then they never let you get the other one. Or you get drinks after. Just get a round of drinks. Getting a round of drinks is the perfect way to go, I always think. I agree. If you move on to another pub.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Difficult if you go back to his house. Really not overthink this. I mean, it's not like he made you pay for the bill. just split the bill it's not that big of a yeah i don't think you can be like look he's really rich he must pay for everything now i don't think that's the right way to think no no no no no but i i understand why your brain's going there let's give him a chance if i'm being completely honest i don't like the way that you're thinking about investing in the relationship so you get the reward at the end because he's rich. That isn't vibe to me. I don't think you should date this guy.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I think you're doing it for the wrong reasons, if I'm honest. Do we think that? Is she doing it? She wrote that. Or do I keep investing in the relationship as there are signs of reward at the end? I don't know what that means. No, no, no, no, no. That was a terrible thing to write.
Starting point is 00:25:59 That's giving gold digger. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I'm really sorry. I think that maybe we should leave this guy alone. You haven't mentioned once there's an amazing connection blah blah blah there's just been money throughout the whole thing. Okay I think that you um need to just rethink your reasonings for why you want to go on this date with this guy is it the connection or is it his big mansion? Dilemma three. Hey girls I'm 28 years old and started dating my first serious boyfriend this
Starting point is 00:26:21 year I've had a rough few years with illness. I haven't been focusing on dating. But I met this guy as I was getting into a positive headspace and he's been so good to me. He's kind and someone who I share my anxieties with. It feels like a true partnership. Oh, lovely. We love this. Last week, he finally met some of my university friends.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We all live in different cities, so we meet up twice a year. We're all at different stages. Some are married, trying for kids, and some are single. But meeting up allows us all to get back on the same page. Gorgeous. Oh my fucking God. Sorry. Sorry. Savage. I told my boyfriend everything.
Starting point is 00:27:06 He got pretty sad as he wanted to get along with all my friends and I can't bear it. How should I move forward so they have the opportunity to find some middle ground? And has anything like this ever happened to you? Sorry. Let me tell you what I think has happened. Your friends got drunk and get me the wrong drink
Starting point is 00:27:18 and I'm outspoken and being a bitch. She's got drunk and been a bitch. Can you pull me aside and be like... No, but I just think if I did, you would surely be like Sophie's being an absolute not that that happens regularly you're being a knob
Starting point is 00:27:27 I also wouldn't go and tell that person like not sure what that's trying to achieve you shouldn't have told your boyfriend you've done it now but you really shouldn't have said it it's really horrible your friend should not have done that
Starting point is 00:27:36 there's no excuse but I'm going to put it down to alcohol like making her like just be out yeah listen alcohol can make people fucking say weird shit all the time but if she says it's sober
Starting point is 00:27:44 and lets you get a date leave me alone that's rude don't fucking say weird shit all the time. If she says it's sober the next year at a date, leave me alone. That's rude. Don't fucking say that. You're not fucking dating him. Jesus Christ. As long as he's not telling you the truth. If you don't like his personality, that's none of your business. You have no right to actually say that.
Starting point is 00:27:55 If you don't have anything nice to say, you don't get to. I would bite my tongue the first time I'd meet him. Yeah, the first time I'd fucking meet him. Give them a fucking chance. Shame. Poor guy. He's probably a bit nervous. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Bunch of feely people. He's probably a bit nervous. Like, I don't know. Bunch of feely people. He doesn't know any of them. I honestly can't believe that she just fooled you and said, I really don't like your boyfriend. Also, like, let's be honest. What is that going to achieve? It's hard to dislike someone. I don't dislike really anyone in my life.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Like, yeah, there are some people that I really click with and there are some people that I like but I don't click with. And I wouldn't go for a coffee just me and them on their own. But, like, I don't dislike anyone. I've never, ever disliked any of my friends' boyfriends apart from one. I dislike them because of the red flags they were doing, not because of their person. It wasn't because their person was bad.
Starting point is 00:28:35 It was like they did many, many acts that were unacceptable and not forgivable in my eyes. I didn't dislike their character. No. There is definitely some people that you're like, rather not sit next to them that didn't dislike their character. No. There is definitely some people that you're like, rather not sit next to them that didn't taste well. But like,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I don't hate them so much where I'm going to pull my best friends aside and be like, by the way, fucking hate your boyfriend. You should probably break up with him.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I bet he thinks the same about you. I don't want to be mean, but you shouldn't have told your boyfriend this. I know. Because that's just like, you know what that's like? That's like me introducing you
Starting point is 00:29:01 to one of my friends and you being like, fucking don't like her. She's really annoying. And me going and telling her her what is that going to achieve or jamie's mate saying by the way we hate your wife sophie and then jamie telling me i would like to be devastated it's just gonna make him so anxious and like the next time he sees them like what the hell i think you should like backtrack and be like oh my god she was drunk i think you
Starting point is 00:29:20 should call her and be like that really upset me yeah and give her the opportunity i'm really hoping that she just had too many drinks and was like being odd. Like, you know, just being a bit bullshy. Because that's not nice. Unless she knows something that you don't. I don't know. Like there's always something beneath the surface. I feel like with these things, like either she fancies him.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's a really weird thing to say. Or she's known him from before. Or like she knows what she's done. Or like she's seeing traits in him or thinks that she's seeing traits in him that you haven't seen I don't know like how if this girl is your best friend and you really trust her then you should probably call her and be like look I'm really fucking upset about what you said to me the other night but like can you elaborate on what you meant like is there something that you're not telling me like do I need to know something should I be worried see what she says and if she's like no I just didn't like his humor then you basically need to tell her to shut the fuck
Starting point is 00:30:08 up ultimately you know no one can be helped you're probably emotional and you're most sure about everything you told your boyfriend but like that was a bad decision I'm not sure how we can go back from this other than I would firstly never mention it unless he brings it up because maybe he just boys don't really think about things too much. Do they? He might be confident enough to just pull that friend aside and be like, I heard you think I'm pretty fucking boring. What are we going to do about that then? Yeah. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:33 If he's not, they're just never going to be mates. You know, and then you ultimately have to kind of decide between your boyfriend and your friend. Or make sure when you next meet up, you go for a drink with another couple, a couple that you think he'll get on really well with so that he has some sort of confidence he has like an ally in a sense an ally, exactly because you can bet
Starting point is 00:30:54 that she will go to your other friends and be like I hate Chris, he's so boring and you want your other friends to be like really I think he's great, get on so well with him exactly keep us updated because I feel bad about this one. Yeah, I need to know what happens. This is a tricky one.
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