Wednesdays - 70. "I’d Get a Tattoo Near the Vagine" – Sophie and Melissa debate TATTOOS!
Episode Date: January 22, 2025Hey Tinies!We’re back, and this week we’re giving you the full rundown of Sophie and Melissa’s Christmas and New Year’s antics. Sophie’s countryside New Year’s started off wholesome but to...ok a turn when Jamie got a little too tipsy after midnight (classic). Meanwhile, Melissa spills on her skiing adventures with her New Year’s on the slopes. With awards season upon us, we’re diving into all things red carpet. Are the girls Team Kimothée? Jamie’s secret celeb crush is revealed, and Zendaya’s tattoo for Tom Holland sparks a heated debate: would Sophie and Melissa ever get a tattoo of their own for love?! And, of course, the dilemmas this week! One Tiny’s boyfriend has a messy backstory as he has slept with her step-sister while another confesses a newfound attraction to older men—thanks to the hit show Rivals. This fantasy-inspired dilemma sends the girls down a rabbit hole of their own fantasies including dress-up, teachers and a bald man called Steve?! Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma send to wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk, SLIDE into our DMs @wednesdayspodcast--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer & Editor: @ben_johnsAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa, are you a doctor? I want to be, but I'm not. I'm not a doctor either. And we're
not psychologists. We're not. We're not experts'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and
we're not experts at anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you
guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do
feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help coming up on this week's
wednesdays we're catching up on our new year's Eves, Christmases and all that good stuff. We talk about Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner at the Golden Globes.
We're talking about fantasies.
One Tiny has a bit of a fantasy with older men and we're going to discuss whether we think she should pursue it or not.
Another one is about someone's boyfriend sleeping with their stepsister and they've only just found out now.
We've got loads of thoughts, so let's get into the episode. Enjoy!
Hello everyone. Oh, it's so good to be back i've really missed it we've also got new mugs i know look how fun this is if you guys want to buy
them just let us know oh yeah we'll make a product let me tell you something else we also have about
70 in the kitchen we also have 400 caps that i took home and they're just sit in my cupboard
oh my god shut up I would love a cap.
Also, all my family keep asking them.
And Toby's brothers are like, quite nice, Millsy.
Can I get one of those?
Oh my God, I love how they call you Millsy.
It's so cute.
I know, it's quite sweet, isn't it?
It's really so sweet.
So how you been?
Guys, we saw each other two days ago.
I know, but it does feel weird.
I, for starters, am in depression in January.
Like, I've never hated a January so much.
I'm really glad to be back.
I'm liking it.
You know why?
Because you've been away for the whole time.
I was in Val d'Azalea skiing, so I got back on Thursday evening.
Then I had Friday, easing myself back into it.
And then it was the weekend.
Nothing worse than coming back on a Sunday night.
Well, actually, mine's the opposite.
Like, I'm not working, essentially.
Like, you've not been here, so I've not been doing the podcast.
Life just doesn't feel like it's been going yeah well it's nice to
sometimes ease yourself back into it if you've got the luxury of doing that we're very lucky that
we've been able to just slowly schmooze we're schmoozing back in but I will say I've been a
bit restless I guess because you've been away my other best friend Chrissy's been away Bella's
been away like I've just been stuck with Jamie doing my head in.
You've been waiting, waiting, waiting.
I've been waiting.
So I'm glad to be back in these hot seats today.
Come on, she's been away for about 500 weeks.
Okay, right, so New Year's Eve, Christmas was gorgeous.
First Christmas in Hampshire with my family and my sister.
Oh my god, yeah, of course.
My granny was so fun.
There wasn't enough pictures.
Really?
I thought I did loads.
I was really chuffed with myself.
I made my brother march into the whirlwind and take photos of me on Christmas Eve.
Yeah, you.
Oh, I thought you did it on South Tyburn.
I was like, sweet, sweet, sweet girl.
And my brother was like, are we done yet?
I'm like, no, no, no.
We've got to do loads more.
He's like, no, these are great.
I'm like, my eyes are shut.
Keep going.
Take, take, take.
No, but it was more so like the photos of like Toby and where's the family.
Like, I love you.
I see.
I loved you and your mum.
Yeah.
Always dressed up quite a lot for Christmas
Eve this year that was so good so loved it I really liked it and then we went to Val d'Azur
and we were skiing and that was really fun New Year's Eve was pretty great as usual so what did
you do New Year's Eve ski in the morning lovely lunch then did some partying and folly do's and
then with the family or no yeah parents always come up
to Folly
and we have some champagne
yeah
or like are there any other parents
like your friends
no
they just come up and join us
for a few drinks
no they're sorry
they're so precious
honestly they get stuck in
had a really fun time
nothing too crazy
until like New Year's Eve
5, 4, 3, 2, 1
oh yeah then we went home
did the countdown
I was in bed by like
10 past midnight
yeah me too I just can't I'm like i'm not staying up till one what happens after midnight
i know exactly i couldn't agree more i wanted to set off my new year with a good that's a really
fun new year a good sleep i think being abroad or like skiing is a really good place to be for
new years you know what i mean it's always wholesome what did you do i went to the countryside
to georgie jamie's best friend's uncle's house and it was like unbelievable and
we went there the night before it was actually like where you grew up i think yeah somerset
and we went to this really cool pub and it was like so trendy everyone was like i need to think
oh the three horseshoes had some lovely food that was the night before and then went home
next day the boys went to play golf me and the girls went on a lovely food That was the night before And then went home Next day the boys Went and played golf Me and the girls
Went on a lovely
Country walk around the garden
And then we went
To the farm shop
Got loads of delicious
Like snacks
And nibbles
For that evening
Took it home
Chilled
The boys came back
We all had lunch
Got ready
Made dinner together
Played loads and loads of games
Oh my god so fun
And you know what was so lovely
I didn't actually know
These couples
Like I'd never met them before Like I had i'd met them like at the wedding fine and so i felt so like
time with them properly yeah and i was like oh my god i've just connected with these wonderful people
and it was just felt really mature and nice and then at like 10 past 12 you know when jamie gets
drunk melissa knows it's like he either goes one way or the other but he is a bizarre drunk like
people unless you're married him like he's so funny because he's quite funny to laugh at.
Or, like, he's very unexpected.
You never know what he's going to do.
It's just chaos for me, really.
I could see him going that way.
And I was like, oh, God.
And I was just like, just ignore it.
It's not that I care what he's doing.
It's more like I don't want him.
For other people.
For other people.
And also for himself, it's embarrassing slightly.
Yeah.
Although he just, like, really doesn't get that embarrassed.
Anyway, lo and behold
it's 12 in 5
or like
20 past 12
perfect you've made it
to midnight
and he's like
come on let's go to bed
and I'm like
okay like
okay
relax like
I'm gonna sneak off
when it's appropriate
like I don't wanna
kill the vibe
sure
and I'm also like
I'm kind of awake
I'm having a good time
I'm having a fucking good time
just be like
I'll see you up there
I was like that I was like shh but he was like so good time. I'm having a fucking good time. Just be like, I'll see you up there in a minute.
I was like that.
I was like, shh.
But he was like so unaware of his surroundings.
Bear in mind, there's only like eight people with us, guys.
So like, and he's going, why are you, come to bed.
Like, and then he starts going out loud.
He's like, why is everyone still awake?
Like, I all know you want to go to bed, really.
I was like, he turned.
And I was like, oh my God.
Chatting absolutely breezed.
It's like, why are you pretending you want to be awake? I was like, turned and I was like oh my god chatting absolutely breezed it's like
why are you pretending you want to be awake I was like you need to shut the fuck up so I was like
and then I was like okay okay we gotta go to and I gotta take this guy down and then we went to bed
and then I woke up at 10 a.m guys that is weird for Soph I know so this is like 6 a.m like she
rises from the dead and it's like I I know, I know. It was weird.
And then I woke up and I got in my little car and we drove home and it was wonderful.
Really lovely.
You don't realise how loud London is until you go to the country and there's zero noise.
It's really weird.
I know, but my mum's here, she's constantly like, what's up, not?
Is that your neighbour?
I'm like, I just block it out or like a siren goes past.
Or like, I don't know, any car you just hear in London.
Obviously in the country there's zero.
No, mine's just constantly like our air machine being like yeah same way amazing air purifier just and you know sometimes like our light like a bit of paleo whatever that thing
is you know to like cleanse the ex you know i'm not scared of my fat that sets it off it's like
fuck oh me too when we've saged sage Saged? It goes mental. It absolutely goes mental. And also when my friend comes over, she vapes.
And it goes mental at her.
She's like, I know, fucking hell, I need to stop vaping.
So funny.
I'm like, thank God someone's selling in, it's not me.
Yeah, thank God it's like getting all that vape energy out of my...
She was like, I'm going to stop in June because that's in the band.
So that's going to be my New Year's resolution.
They're banned in June?
Yeah, thank God.
Shut the fuck up in England.
Her favourite is like
strawberry ice elf bar
and it's the most
heinous thing ever
I know they are so delicious
but we mustn't guys
she only likes that flavour
oh god she must go crazy
when that's not
in the convenience store
and that effort
really doesn't like her
oh I will tell you
what I've been doing
I've been watching
loads of old school movies
so Shawshank Redemption
yeah I've seen it
why has no one told me to watch that?
Because it's like an old classic.
Why haven't you already watched it?
Godfather.
Watch it.
Have I seen the Godfather?
No, you wouldn't have
because you would not have been able
to have the stamina to watch it.
You have to really watch.
It's like three and a half hours each movie.
Why are all these films so long these days?
Because they're just amazing.
I can't do it.
Oh my God, you know what?
I'm going to see in the cinema.
Baby girl.
When?
I want to go.
Next week. I'll come. Who are you going with? I'm going with the Millfield know what I'm going to see in the cinema? Baby Girl. When? I want to go. Next week.
I'll come.
Who are you going with?
I'm going with the Merleville Girlies.
And we're going on Tuesday night.
Love it.
And I was with Yaz from Made in Chelsea, guys.
I don't know if you know who she is.
The other day, she was like,
I put this really wholesome like girly day for me and my mum.
We're going to watch Baby Girl.
Mimi would be like, don't do that.
It's like the most sexual film ever.
I would not have even known.
Don't go with your mum.
Or your sister for that.
I could watch that with my mum and my sister.
I couldn't with my dad.
Preferably not.
I would rather just watch it with some friends.
I also don't even know if I'd want to watch that with Toby.
I'd just be like, am I supposed to be doing this?
I don't know, when it's so sexual,
it makes you feel a certain type of way about your own sex life.
No, I can't watch anything sexual with Jamie.
I find it really uncomfortable.
Jamie, you'd probably want to try it there and then.
Oh my God, no, like substance. No, no, no. What's that? You need to watch it. Okay, it I find it really, like, uncomfortable. Jamie, you probably want to try it there and then. Oh, my God, no, like, substance.
No, no, no.
What's that?
You need to watch it.
Okay, it's actually the shittest movie ever, Don't Kill Me, like, by Demi Moore.
It's basically, like, Demi Moore wants to be younger.
And anyway, the younger version of Demi is so fucking sexy.
I literally knew Jamie was having a field day.
Like, to the point where I could just sense it.
Oh!
Anyway.
You can feel it. Anyway, I hear him. So then I watched it with him and then I could just sense it anyway you can feel it
anyway I hear him
so then I watched it
with him and then
I had to watch it
with Gavin Brown
because she wanted
to watch it
but I was like
can't have it on my phone
is this a new movie
yeah anyway
I just hear Jamie go
what's this film called
and I just knew
he was googling her
following the chick
on Instagram
I was thinking
he's thinking
I'll get her
on Great Company
100%
you know he slid in
being like
I'm great company
with a million views
and listeners
if you're ever in London
I'd love to take you
for a coffee
I see you
and when she comes on
in however many
fucking years
we'll be like
he's been
how long has that been
in the working for
how long has he been
grafting that
it's too good
honestly
one day we'll get
our own back
and we'll get some
really hot famous men
on that fucker
we must
we really must.
For God's sake.
Speaking of Demi Moore,
did you see the clip?
When she snubbed Kylie?
Yeah, just completely ignoring Kylie.
I know.
And you know my thought behind this.
I'm just thinking,
had she just won an Oscar or a Golden Globe or whatever
and she's just overwhelmed
and she's got Kylie Jenner in there
and she's like,
yeah, thanks, hun, I don't really know you.
I'm sure we've done that.
Maybe, but you'd be like,
hi, so nice to meet you
and also why didn't
Timothy be like
this is my girlfriend Kylie
or this is Kylie
but have they met before
on that night
they could have been
at the cocktail hour
talking the whole time
and she's just like
going from one to eight
very true but
Demi Moore's daughter
piped up about it
and was like
if my mum had realised
Kylie was saying something
she would have spoken to her back
I'm speechless
it is death.
You know, she's like,
congratulations, Kylie.
She looks amazing at the moment.
I fucking love Kylie.
Me too.
What's not to like?
I mean, she's just a businesswoman
that's just...
Who's hot shit.
That's just doing well.
Yeah.
And there's all these things going around,
like, why are we...
Because people just for some reason
are obsessed with Timothee Chalamet.
And I understand he's very talented.
Yada, yada, yada. And he's got the razz i get that but why is kylie not good enough for him
i don't get so fill me in because i'm a little bit out of people i think are just like a bitchy
about the fact that timothy should be with some deep soul that's very artistic and that's also a
really good actress and shut the fuck up i He's with some billionaire. I know,
but to people,
I think they're seeing it as like she's not good enough
for him because she's just rich
and hot.
Because she's a Kardashian.
Yeah.
There's a stigma attached
and it's fucked up.
Why is that?
And people are comparing her
to Pamela Anderson saying,
now everyone loves Pamela
because she's obviously
had this documentary
and she's sort of been
rebirthed into the acting world
and people have this new
respect for her and she's not wearing makeup and she's had to really like rebrand
herself to like be like reinvented which is like not fair and now people are kind of doing the same
thing to Kylie it's like how they used to do to her back then like not take her seriously basically
because she's got big boobs and she's gorgeous and whatever yeah like she should they're like
Timothy should be someone with someone like Zendaya. I think that's maybe what these protective fans and other actors are saying.
I'm just so not with that.
I rate Kylie.
Why are you all so jealous?
And why are you basically discriminating someone on the way they look by the way they look?
You're literally so contradicting yourself.
I know.
You're saying that because she looks too good and cares too much about the way she looks
that she shouldn't be given the credit.
I also feel like she has really just
dulled everything down as she's got on all this.
She hardly wears any makeup now.
Her hair's not very done.
She's really pilled back the glam.
She literally wears mascara and foundation lip liner.
But also, even if she does wear a full face,
so be it.
It shouldn't matter.
You're so right.
That's so wrong I Like, that's me.
That's so wrong.
I even brought that up because it's completely contradictory.
Like, I just don't get any of it.
Also, like, Timothy's probably, like, always fancy Kylie.
I don't really get it.
I know.
It's just, like, so outrageous.
It's just one of those weird things.
The Kardashians are just having a bit of a bad time, I think, at the moment.
Are they?
I just feel like people are like, where are they?
Like, no one really... That is true. Where are they? I also agree. Something's brewing. Speaking of
celebs Zendaya and Tom Holland are engaged and she has this really cool big ring. They're very
unique, very cool. Very classy. Very trendy. Rosie Hunterton-Whiteley has one that's quite famous.
Selena has one apparently. And she also got a tattoo. This is Zendaya. I go and met Zendaya. Where?
Apparently she got a tattoo of his initial
on her little arm.
Maybe we should do it.
I would quite fancy
when I'm 40
getting a tramp stamp.
What's that?
A tramp stamp.
It's a tattoo like
above your like bikini line
on your back.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just feel like when I'm 40
I want to do something radical.
So when you're in 12 years time
you want...
And also if I get a tattoo
when I'm 40...
No.
Well, it's obviously quite
Like not me
And like a little bit out there
Well maybe I'll get one there then
On the side of my arm
And also kind of fancy one
Near the bikini line
Yeah I'm down for it
Where Hayley Bieber has one
You know she has one
That says like baby
Like near her vagine
I'm like oh a little heart
Near the vagine
Could be quite sweet
Maybe we do it before we're 40
Otherwise what's the point
No we're off
No I just want to do something radical when I'm older.
Radical?
My mum got her belly button pierced when she was 40.
Did she?
I can get the trance down.
And I'll never forget.
You're going to get buzz.
I have no idea yet.
Get Brighton Beach.
I've got some time to think about it.
You've got 12 years in the bank.
They're going to race past.
We can do some designs tomorrow.
Do you remember when we were both desperate to get those swallows on our arms?
We were going to get some tattoos.
I still think about it every single year.
And I do desperately want one.
I kind of want one behind my ear.
I want one behind my neck.
I want one somewhere around that region because people won't see it.
And if your hair's up, it looks quite sick.
But my hair's down loads.
True, but then I'm thinking when my hair's up and I'm old and it's gone all smudgy.
Because they just never seem to last as good.
Well, and the tramp stamp will look good, but that way.
No, the tramp stamp's going to be trampy.
That's why it's called a tramp stamp.
Get a little heart somewhere in the name.
What, a heart with Toby and then like an arrow through it?
Actually, maybe I should just do a T because I've done the heart for an ex-boyfriend.
I know.
Can't reuse that.
Also, I do have that removed now, so there's no longer a tattoo on my body, but I did have
one, to my parents' dismay.
Yeah, I remember that being on your little finger.
You were doing it the whole time through Made in Chelsea.
Yes, I was.
You were like, oh, if I go to get my tattoo.
When I met Soph, I still had the tattoo you were really actually
quite defensive about it i used to be like two weeks into dating him and i was like why did i
do that we were still together when i got the first laser of it getting off because i was just
like why have i done that and he did it too right it's quite no he kept it but then i think a while
after he started to get it removed but his wouldn't come off wait so he had a heart tiny
absolutely tiny and it's exactly the same as
Toby's business partner and his
fiance. They have the exact same tattoo
in the exact same place that I had that on my
ex. I was like, ah. Well, I quite
like having someone's name on your
ring finger. I know a guy who has that and I think
it's so sweet so that if he ever, for whatever
reason, doesn't have the ring. He's like, I'm
taken. That's quite a nice idea.
I like that. Maybe I'll get Jamie to have him because he actually only has a wedding finger on his pinky
finger I know that's what a fraud my dad doesn't wear anything at all yeah but he's so married like
Jamie could be out in Nashville I think I think everyone knows in the world that Jamie's married
I wouldn't worry about it not in Nashville I might get a little J in between like a toe oh yeah
and then everyone's gonna see that yeah and then then if I squirt my feet. Everyone's going to see that. Yeah. And then if I like squirt my feet.
Spread the toes.
Spread my toes.
Squirt my feet.
Yeah, yeah.
If I spread these little tits to you, they'll be like, what's that?
It looks like a little scratch.
Oh no, it's a J.
And I'll be like, my husband's called Jamie.
Okay, well maybe we go together and I'll get a T and you get a J.
I would do that.
Should we do it on Wednesdays?
No, I actually genuinely would do this.
Oh my God, no.
I'd rather die.
No, come on.
On your foot.
I have to be engaged or something. I can't be getting that on my body. Just say. I'm not doing no, I'd rather die. No, come on, on your foot. I have to be engaged or something.
I can't be getting that on my body.
Just say.
I'm not doing that until I'm like married.
I'm sorry.
Put a T on your engagement finger and say,
this is me proposing to you.
And then just say, but now your part is you have to buy me a ring.
Oh my God.
And then it completes the contract.
It's so good for me if we ever, God forbid,
hopefully this ever happens.
If we ever broke up, I can just put an M in front of it
and then it's my initials.
Actually, on that note,
if anyone has any funny tattoo stories
that they've had with like an ex or a partner
or their drunk friends,
like send them in on the follow-ups
because it is just so jokes reminiscing about those times.
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right should we get into the dilemmas dilemma one so i have a dilemma and i'm a bit weirded
out by it my dad recently got a new girlfriend and i just found out that my boyfriend has slept
with her with her daughter in the past.
That was a really premature gasp.
This happened well before me and him ever started dating, but I can't help feeling really weird.
When I first asked him, he lied to me and said that they had spoken, but nothing more.
After this, it came to light that he had in fact slept with her.
For fuck's sake, why do these boys lie?
I love my boyfriend and honestly couldn't do life without him,
but I know when I eventually meet my dad's girlfriend and her daughter that i'll end up feeling so awkward especially if my
boyfriend is there too oh god which he will be i've had really bad past relationships lots of
lies and cheaters so i can be very insecure and i don't have the best trust i know deep down my
boyfriend would never ever do anything with this girl again but there is a slight doubt in the back
of my mind just because of my previous relationships what do i do girls please help me okay he is not gonna go and sleep
with that girl again but it will be awkward but you are literally just gonna have to like
torture yourself and get yourself out of that tricky situation in your mind because he hasn't
done anything wrong neither she she's gonna feel way more like you to start with that's
that's just pure panic yeah it's a panic lie we've all been there she's gonna feel way more fucking awful you shouldn't have lied to me to start with that's a bit silly that's just pure panic yeah it's a panic lie
we've all been there
she's gonna feel fucking awful
imagine
not only meeting like
the dad
the mum's boyfriend
with the kid
and the boyfriend
and then walking in
and being like
fuck
of course it's gonna be
like your step
sister
so weird
surely you've gotta
break the ice
and say it straight up
I would probably feel
like a certain type
of way about it
regardless
but I would just
build it up in my head
and be like
oh my god now he fancies her and like I would just build it up in my head and be like, oh my God, now he fancies her.
And like, I don't know.
No, but if she's fit, it's there.
It's not the right, and if she, yeah.
And if she's like really confident, it's there.
Like you want her to be like a sweet little wallflower
that you're like, okay, you're not making me feel really insecure.
Yeah, and you're like, you're just being really like sweet.
And it was obviously just a one-time thing.
And like, I'm not threatened by you.
And we can be pals and we can be sister and all.
But she's like this sexy, like confident like confident okay we're thinking worst case scenario sorry I don't know why I'm
being so pessimistic it's really not the way to set her 20 to 25 also like you've got to think
he's with you not her he could have been with her ultimately you're going to feel jealous ultimately
you're going to feel awkward ultimately you're going to like have those like intrusive thoughts
I get everyone would but you can't do anything around it you've just got to ride this wave it's all part of life yeah like it's just part of
growing also just don't like whine or like freak out to your boyfriend about it because you can
like make it a bigger deal to him and then it will make it awkward and then you'll be paranoid that
he's having tension with her when she's not so if i was you i just speak to your girlfriends about
it vent but in front of your boyfriend and in front of her,
act like,
lol,
like,
remember when that happened?
Like,
quite embarrassing.
Oh my God,
you know what?
This is so true.
Like,
the worst thing you can do,
I've done it in the past with boyfriends
where I've been like,
you fancy so and so.
Oh,
don't put that scenario in their head.
And then,
whether they like it or not,
they're obviously so fucking weird
with that person
because they're trying to prove
they don't fancy them.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
And then you're like, oh my God, do you actually fancy them? And then you'll never know they're trying to prove they don't fancy them then you're like oh my god you actually fancy them and then you'll never know you i still
to this day don't ever know oh don't ever say stuff like that and also don't manifest it sometimes
you can put an idea in someone's head you know like how we always say sometimes you won't fancy
someone but you'll find out that they fancy you and then you're like oh now i kind of feel a
certain type of way about you oh my god i need I need to tell you. I was really quizzing Jamie about this substance thing.
And I was like, what is it that makes a girl sexy?
I don't even know if I should say this.
He was like, it's if you think you can get them.
Like she gives off the energy that makes you think you could shag her.
And that's sexy.
I know.
So I'm like, the minute you fucking said you fancy her,
they're now thinking I could
shag her and then they fancy her oh my god I fucked it I've said that so many times I'm like
you really fancy her I say it all the time I've been in these situations so many times and I just
would make a joke out of it and be like oh my god long lost lovers like with your boyfriend and her
that's probably not the way to do it but like it's gonna make her feel awkward but it also is like
I'm okay with this I know what's happened like let's have a laugh about it now and her that's probably not the way to do it but like it's going to make her feel awkward but it also is like I'm okay with this
I know what's happened
like let's have a laugh about it now
and then let's fucking drop it
exactly
don't make it a big deal
let's not have a formal sit down
and discuss like
you've shagged my boyfriend
two years ago
and I think we need to talk about it
so did he suck you off
or what
like do you know what I mean
like we can't
oh god it's just sickening
isn't it
I'm just like
all the thought
I'm thinking about
it's your thinking
if it happens to you
that's what you're thinking I know and I'm thinking all the weird things that i've done
i i can't stay in like i think you've had shit no you really fucked it i fuck it with everyone
i need to really we need to get my game back slightly with that so don't do that i think
definitely just do what sophie said and just kind of make light of it and like don't make it a big
deal if i have a wobble like around like insecurities I'm quite toxic in the way that I will like do the wrong thing first and I'll be
like I don't fucking care like go and cheat on me and it's not the right thing to do and I've
learned growing up and also like you know being in a long-term relationship that the better thing
you do is you've just got to be vulnerable and be like that makes me feel really insecure like
I don't like that and then they will give you what you need back.
But if you do the toxic trait, which is what I used to do
and, like, have done for so long.
Which is literally what we've just told this girl to do.
Oh, my God, I know.
So sorry.
So let's re-evaluate our advice then.
Okay, let's change it.
Three, six, three.
Well, I think there's something to be said by, like,
let's separate the two, okay?
So if you're slightly insecure anyway because of your
past relationships and he's just recently lied to you about this thing that's fine to address and be
like look it's fine that you slept with her back in the day like we weren't together that's not a
big deal but you lied to me about it so now I feel like it's a bigger deal than it is slightly
from the lie and obviously my past relationships whatever like I've got some insecurities there so
I just need maybe a little bit more reassurance from you every now and then because that's just made me a bit paranoid
the fact that you lied about it and I would just like re-emphasize and be like I know it's like a
really small white lie to you but like can you really think before you make those like innocent
lies because they really fuck my trust like I've had my trust broken in the past so obviously I'm
really susceptible to like even the smallest whitest lie it really screws with my head and then just make him aware because
sometimes like you know it's also so silly because like obviously you were going to find out
that's like a classic situation where the boy's like you know when you just lie on the spot and
you're like why have I just lied I don't like don't I mean obviously I don't need that but
like in the past I've done it yeah it's annoying he could have been like oh my god you know what
I did sleep with her
he could just be like
it wasn't great
and like she's a very sweet girl
just to make you feel
a bit better about it
but because he's gone
oh no
it's made you think like
oh my god why is he lying
is he covering something up
does he feel something
you know where my brain
would be going
I get where your brain goes
yeah where
I'd be thinking like
did they have like
a one night stand or whatever
and he like tried to ask on another day and she ghosted him you never know the answer now she's the one that got
away yeah but that's a really awful thing for me to put into your brain i'm so sorry the thing is
though i feel like your brain will be going to these places anyway because that's just what we
girls do i do think the less you know about the situation probably the better i think address the
fact that he's lied make sure that you get the reassurance that you need and then don't make yourself miserable when making a bigger deal than it needs to be.
At the end of the day, she might be your stepsister.
I would just like really lay your cast on the table.
Be really honest.
Be really vulnerable.
Set the clean slate.
And then if he wants to sneak about and lie more, then you know there's a red flag.
Yeah.
Please tell us what's going to happen with this.
This is such a niche dilemma.
I've never had anything like this.
You could meet her and she could be like, she could god's sake she could have a boyfriend be like i've been
going out of this place for two years yeah i think we need to assess the situation further
what are the chances oh god honestly sometimes god sends things to try us would be that serious
yeah um so please please follow up with us and let us know because i really need to know how
you're gonna navigate through this one and give any future little tinies some advice. Yeah, love you.
Okay, Dynamo 2,
we're ready.
I've got a weird fantasy
at the moment
which won't go away.
It's been made worse
after watching Rivals
on Disney+.
I have a genuine thing
for older men.
I've not seen Rivals.
Nor me with Emily Aitak.
I need to watch it.
So I started to watch
the first episode
and then I didn't get into it
but I know that one of the girls has a love affair with the old sexier guy.
Older guy.
Okay, I didn't know.
At first I was able to ignore it.
But now I have the need to get it out of my system.
I'm 23 and I went on a date with a 30-year-old recently.
And it was good, but it wasn't it.
That's the same age gap as you and Jamie.
I wouldn't class that as like an older guy necessarily.
Would you? No, seven years is fine. That's me same age gap as you and Jamie. I wouldn't class that as like an older guy necessarily. Would you?
No, seven years is fine.
That's me and my husband.
I'd like to date someone 10 to 20 years older than me.
Okay, yeah, this is more of the age gap I was imagining.
So he was too young for you?
Maybe even 30 years older than me.
Wow.
Do you think I should let this fantasy fizzle out or pursue it?
I would pursue it.
You must scratch that itch.
Especially if this is is if you're
single i would 100% where are you gonna find some delicious old man right you go on to hinge and just
set the age range there you go problem solved you freaking go you know what there's there there is
definitely like a second wind of blokes that become single at that sort of age or women because
they've all had divorces but it's a bit of a red flag
if like a 50 year old
is going for a 20 year old
I would say
I would agree with that statement
so
like
that's like they're going
for their daughter
you know what I mean
yeah
and just thinking of like
but it does happen
I'm telling you now
if Brad Pitt was in the room
I would be all over that
that would be my dream person
I was going to say for me
Matthew McConaughey
but I've been looking at him
recently and he's just
not quite aged
he's also quite cringe
he's too much for me
and the movie
Brad Pitt's more my type
fair enough
I'd take either though
no let's not
because it can't be Jesus
no I think I'd say
no to Matthew
he's not quite my
really
not quite my type
no I'm taking this out of you
no but Brad Pitt
to be fair, yeah.
One older guy, your dream older guy, I would go for...
Oh, my God, mine would be Marlon Brando.
Who's that?
Oh, my God, the godfather.
He is next.
Is he really like grandpa vibes now?
I think he might be dead now.
Oh, I think he's probably a bit old then.
Yeah, but look at him like when he was like 70, I still would have.
He was my first true love because when i was doing english gcse i read a streetcar named
desire and i fell in love head over heels and i've never gotten a fun fact about him in this film
tell me for him to wear a top that tight and short and small they had to like wash it and
shrink it loads and loads and loads because tops like that just didn't exist and it like
broke a wall through like fashion like history
it was like really cool
to have like a cropped
type top on a mat
I'm in shock
that you have found that
I listen to some
fashion podcasts
and sometimes I just
hear these facts
also you just need
to see him speak
it's just quite something else
oh god I believe you
it's unbelievable
look at him smile
what do you think
about like
the dimples
someone like
Adam Sandler
no
I'm gonna say no
I watched him click
and I was like I want that to be my husband.
And then I just fancied him all throughout, like grown ups.
Like, oh, just like.
Oh, no, you know who for me?
Who?
I've been re-watching Californication, Hank Mooney.
Give me Hank Mooney.
I used to like really live in fancy.
So like when I went travelling, like before I went travelling, right, I broke up with
my boyfriend at the time.
And I was like like i had this fantasy
that i was gonna get to south america i was gonna walk down the beach i was gonna meet the fittest
guy like we were gonna have sex under the branches yeah yeah and i got there and i was like where are
they everyone's back packing and stinky have i done what is going on it's not the vibe that was
my real fancy but i remember there. She went home after that.
She didn't pursue the rest of her life. I literally from every day
thought I was looking at flies.
No, but seriously,
that was a real time
when I was fantasizing.
Okay.
I do remember this.
So you not followed through
with the fantasy as such?
I didn't get one person
when I went traveling.
There just wasn't anyone
who was tickling my fancy.
I really did try.
I did look around.
So no. Oh oh god she gave
it a good go i'm trying to think of like do you know some people have like sexual fantasies of
like a dream like people just like love the idea of like a firefighter or a policeman like i don't
know oh yeah i don't really have any of that if i'm being honest i don't think toby really does
either i always ask him he's like not really yeah Jamie God how dull I'm like think of something
I know I'm like
I'm happy to play along
me too
but do you know
what I mean
it's so dull
I'd be up for a bit
of dress up
I think we should
just get involved
ourselves
I have bought
like dress up
but then I just like
it looks so crap
when it comes
it's like such
shit material
I'm like I would
look stupid in that
you know what I mean such shit material no but it like looks like yeah it's not looking legit it's like such shit material i'm like i would look stupid in that you know what i mean
like shit material no but it like looks like yeah it's not looking it's not sexy it's like i look
like i'm in dress up i look like i'm doing the scooby-doo vibe but she's going trick-or-treating
and maybe that is the vibe well i think i don't think it's meant to be that realistic that would
maybe be a bit spooky spooky samantha jones in sex in the City her and um the gorgeous guy that she's with
Smith Gerard they do fantasy dressing up and they like play role play the whole time basically and
like he fulfills all of her fantasies it's quite epic actually she's like an inspector at one point
one person's like a lawyer I think at one point I don't know there's like a few fantasies that
she gets to live out with this is I think you've got to like be quite into porn because I think a lot of that gives you those sexual fantasies.
So true.
And if you've never really watched porn, then you're not, why are you going to suddenly start imagining shagging your teacher?
Like to me, I'm picturing shagging my 70 year old biology teacher.
You've just dropped a little memory in my mind.
I definitely used to have a little crush on one of my teachers.
Really?
Right.
So at one of my old schools really gorgeous art teacher like all
the mums would fancy him he was cool he was hot he was hot stuff and he was like kind of like
albany hair he was like very like very somerset vibe like very artistic do you think if you saw
him now you'd be like yeah fit or you it was just like a thing when you were like eight years old. No, no, no, no.
I was like 15, 16.
He was really gorgeous.
I used to really fancy this man called Steve.
And he was a builder.
Oh, she likes a man.
No, no.
A workman. He was about five foot seven.
And he was bald. You have a and he was he was my dad's age
and he was a builder and i unzied him so it's so weird like the first crush that you have as a
child i think he might have been my first love let's just go back to the the depth of this
dilemma my advice to you if you're my sister i would say live out the fantasy have a fling a
friend of mine actually had a fling with a person that's 20 years older than her
so it was great then you got really intense and i kind of started to like her she's like no
but i would say potentially really think about how your life would be if you fall in love with
him and i make sure that you're okay with what that would be if you have a 30 year age gap with
somebody i would just you know what i mean I would just try and like think through okay fine
is it possible for me to sustain a relationship with him if I fall in love with him because
sometimes you just fall in love with oh my god I saw Olivia Atwood she was on Loose Women and she
said this thing that her grandma says to her be careful who you date because you can fall in love
with anybody I was like oh my fucking god that is so true you know people are like oh yeah I'm just
gonna go on a date with them like it's probably not going to lead to anything but you can just
fall in love with anybody and they might not be the right person for you in any way yeah like
don't just jump into bed with the next 50 year old man you see yeah I think has he got a nice job
has he got a nice family has he got kids has is he still married you need to just consider all
those things and see what you're okay with and if the scenario comes along what you do fall in love
with him are you going to be okay with that being your life or you know what you're okay with. And if the scenario comes along where you do fall in love with him,
are you going to be okay with that being your life?
Or you know what you could do?
You could go to like Rome or somewhere and just go shag a 50-year-old man.
That's probably the best idea.
And then be like, I'm off home the next day.
Because it's impossible to really make it work.
Language barrier.
You can't fall in love with someone when there's a language barrier.
I personally don't think.
It's very hard to do so.
It is hard.
Because you don't connect on that same level.
That would be my advice.
Off you go to Paris. Let us know how it is. I'm really excited. Or go to. It is hard. Because you don't connect on that same level. That would be my advice. Oh my God, I'm excited for you. Off you go to Paris.
Let us know how it is.
Oh, I'm really excited.
Or go to Italy.
Oh God.
Yeah, but you've got to get the Eurostar.
Come back in one day.
Hop on the Eurostar.
Go on Hinge.
Oh my God, yeah.
And be safe, please.
Love you.
Dilemma three.
Hi girls.
I'm 28 and I'm now at a place in my life where i'd like to meet someone
i previously met a couple of guys from hinge however both times it turned out that these
guys just wanted someone to sleep with and walked away as soon as feelings started to get involved
the last time this happened it really really hurt as he led me on for a long time i've recently been
on a couple of dates with new guys i met on hinge he's great makes me laugh and we have so much in common I'm excited to spend more time with him however I am scared what if
I develop feelings again and he just wants sex I really don't want to be in this situation again
should I ask him if he's looking for a hookup or something more serious or will asking too early
on put him off if he's wanting something serious I hope this makes sense so you don't think I'm just being crazy and overthinking.
I think you could like suss it out.
Like you could just suss it out on a date.
Like if he's like Netflix and chill,
like you know what's up. Sometimes they like promise you the world
that's really difficult
and unfortunately you have to just wait and see
and figure it out.
Asking someone the question,
they'll be like,
well, you know,
right now I'm not necessarily looking for something,
but if the right girl comes along, they all might.
It's very intense to ask that straight away.
And it's difficult.
You're never really going to necessarily get the answer that you want.
Because even if they are looking for something long term,
they might not like you after a while.
That's just the truth of it.
So you're never going to know if you're going to be led on or not.
That's life.
And also, like, you're probably going to have sex before you going to be led on or not that's life and also like you're
probably going to have sex before you really know if you really like somebody right if you know that
you fall quite hard and quickly and you're getting hurt i would advise just wait not an unreasonable
amount of time maybe like four days i don't know how many days you've already been on but
i would wait a little bit because if you sleep with them straight away it will be way more intense
for you than it will be for him and then it'll be harder for you but then there is that like theory about like no matter how long you make
the guy wait they already know if they want to be with you or not so I personally think you have to
obviously kiss all these frogs right so like if it doesn't work out and he like doesn't want to see
you again then he's not the guy for you he's not your one yeah I think you've got to like relinquish
control of it like you can't control the situation. You can't control somebody else.
You've just got to go into it with an open mind.
You can't try and control all these different factors.
Like, is he in it for a long-term relationship?
Obviously, later down the line,
don't go on for a year knowing that he doesn't want anything serious.
But you can't go into that first date with all these questions.
Agree.
I think if I was maybe in your position
and I just kind of wanted to like save myself some fucking time,
to be honest with you,
like seems to go on like full dates
and to figure out if he wants to like have relationships or not,
I would just be like,
so how long have you been on this dating app then?
Like do you date quite a bit?
Like are you having fun being single?
Are you more of a relationship person?
Yeah.
I think just ask that question.
That's such a legit,
like that's like a first date kind of question.
Anyway.
And particularly if you met on an app,
it's like you could literally be like,
I find, oh my God,
you could be like,
I hate being on this app.
Yeah.
It's like I find the dating scene so bum out.
But I kind of,
I want a relationship.
It's hard to meet people.
Yeah.
And then see his reaction that he might be like,
I've been on it for four years
and I love sharing about it.
And you're like,
okay, noted.
Yeah.
Lay down the law in the most unintense way you possibly can. Or you could just be like i've been on it for four years and i love shagging about and you're like okay noted yeah lay down the law in the most unintense way you possibly can or you could just be like yeah these dating apps i've been on it for like a month but like i find it quite bad because like
all these guys just tend to like want to want to have sex now i'm not really down for that
and then he'll be like okay fine yeah you would hope otherwise he's like i wouldn't do that but as you say i think then you've done
your bit and you've done a bit of like due diligence in a sense but ultimately as if you
said you can't control the situation so like sometimes people are gonna just tell you a bit
of a fib or he might have the intention as i said of like finding a wife but he just might not like
you he might not have that chemistry with you and vice versa and that's okay let us know how it goes though but like go into it with like an open mind and like
enjoy it like don't try and control the situation love you love you guys that's the end of the
episode we are back baby we love you we love you keep sending in those dilemmas because we love
them so much and we love you guys so much and new year new us new you oh I'd love to also
hear some stories
from the new year
or like any romances
that blossomed over new year
any of that shit
photos
we love photos
voicenotes
I miss a good old voicenote
we don't have voicenotes anymore
you guys are a bit shy
come on
spill the tea
yeah yeah
come on
bye guys love you
see you next week.
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