Wednesdays - 72. Sophie’s Sister Georgia Habboo Shares Her Emotional Birth Story

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Hey Tinies,Sophie’s sister, Georgia habbo, is back! And for the first time, she’s sharing her birth story! We’ve got Georgia and baby Bella on the pod, though Bella wasn’t the biggest fan of the studio lights, so first, Sophie and Melissa catch up on all things old-school jewellery, including what Sophie used to do with a bracelet a boy gave her. Then, Georgia gets real about her birth experience, how becoming a mum has completely changed her, and the most emotional moment she’s had with Bella so far.On dilemmas this week, one Tiny is struggling with wedding invites after grief shifted her priorities—should she cut certain friends from the guest list? And in a seriously messy one, another Tiny has developed a crush on her potential brother-in-law. Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma send to [e-mail], SLIDE into our DMs @wednesdayspodcast--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | [e-mail]--Credits:Producer: @ben_johnsEditor: Kat MilsomAssistant Producer: @gurlinaheer_Exec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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On today's episodes, we have my sister Georgia telling us all about life of baby Bella. She's also got baby Bella with her. And she also tells us her bath story. We're also discussing like old school jewellery trends. And I have a juicy little bit of gossip that happened to me yesterday so I'm explaining about that. And of course, as always, the dilemmas so we hope you enjoy. Basically guys, we're back. And so what the situation is, we've got Georgia here with the babes. But the babe is crying because we we think

she doesn't like the lights she'll be the smallest person to ever have been on our podcast and youngest oh my god we should have got her some like mini headphones or something oh my oh my god there's nothing key to them you know like when you go to a wedding and like someone brings like their baby and then they put the little headphones on yeah and also i'm thinking like is that their second baby because i just feel like i don't think I'm going to be that chill with my first oh no way I think second maybe

you're like cruising first I think I'm going to be neurotic oh my god me too I think I'm going to be neurotic I'm going to be a helicopter almond mum I can feel it in my bones

not an almond mum because you're not going to make them eat an almond today no that's just the saying oh right but you know where that came from an almond mum as in like you can't have any sweet

chocolate in the house nothing artificial do you know where that came from I'm just going to debrief because I think you're listening so Gigi Hadid who sweets chocolate in the house nothing artificial do you know where that came from I'm just going to debrief because I think you're listening so Gigi Hadid who by the way

I just need to let you know Gigi Hadid and Bella Hadid were on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills I saw the episode right

they were on it way before they were famous and their whole career started on that show like you saw it Gigi Hadid's like on a fast

because her mum's like you need to be a model like you need to exercise and she's like you exercise seven times a week xyz and she calls and she's like I feel faint andid's like on a fast because her mum's like you need to be a model like you need to exercise and she's like you exercise seven times a week xyz and she calls and she's like I feel faint

and she's like eat one almond and chew on it real slow that's what or daddy's I know there's nothing better she's got like her 17th birthday

on the show right they threw this huge party and Yolanda Hadid's like okay and Gigi's like mum I'm gonna have a bite of cake tonight but it's not

like put on like they they didn't realize like yeah reality TV wasn't quite a thing yeah they didn't know what the fuck it was going to be clicked up on you and the mum's like okay but let's share a slice and they have like a sliver and she's like that's it now to the Gigi and I'm like this could just not be allowed nowadays that's so unhinged I know so when I'm like on my mum like we've got to be careful okay so I I meant on my mum in terms of like there'll be chocolate in the house but it'll be like organic yeah me too no artificial anything in the house that's gonna be my vibe but I'm gonna make marshmallows from scratch oh my god I'm not gonna be quite Lara Smith this is what I'm imagining she to be quite Lara Smith. This is what I'm imagining. She's called Nara Smith. Sorry, Nara Smith.

Can we just talk about the cross necklace for a second? So I have one that's like quite big that I wear sometimes. I love it. I always have loved crosses. Me too. I think it's just like quite a classic thing that everyone wears, right? It's not. I love them and loads of people comment on mine.

Well, loads of people always think I'm religious and I'm like, I'm actually not. I just really like the look of it. Yeah. I think it also looks quite vintage sometimes. It's really gorgeous. Anyway, I was going for dinner and my friend Emily was like, very Khloe Kardashian of you. And I was like, really not the look I'm going for. So now it's made me like.

Because yours is quite big. It is big. So Jamie got me a name. Like, you know, the Hailey Bieber, like Hailey and Diamonds. He got me Sophie and Diamonds. And it's just not for me. I love and it's i think they're so cool um and i'll tell you the reason i actually i know you're getting one and i think you'll look great with it but you're getting toby it's because everyone just has it now carrie bradshaw was the original one like series one

she's wearing a carrie necklace and i think she kind of like set that trend and now obviously vintage things are coming back people are like now re-watching Sex and the City Gen Z so I think that's why it's become a bit of a big thing again well anyway I asked I was like look I'm not gonna wear this so let's obviously we can't sell it so I wonder if we could make it in something else so I'm making like heart hoops diamond hoops with it but not like no half hoops you know what I mean absolutely no and so they're just going to be everyday and I'm picking them

up next week so I'm very thrilled exciting what other jewellery oh my god do you remember the rope did you ever wear a rope around your neck

no I did I had a suede black rope and I would twist it around oh yeah and I actually did it yeah yeah when I was 18

like a thin piece of string almost yeah with a big jewel on the top do you remember the lynx bracelets oh absolutely lynx have gone bust now but they were a real vibe Pandora yeah yeah when I was 18 like a thin piece of string almost yeah with a big jewel on the top do you remember the links bracelets oh absolutely links have gone bust now

but they were a real vibe Pandora Pandora with the charms me and my friends went ham for them they must have come out and my friend Harriet Jones

bought us all a Pandora bracelet and then each year we'd buy each other charms how generous I know it was very generous who you're right the links

yeah the links was like a real vibe links was such oh my god I remember I think it was the little rope with the silver lines with the silver lines the links was like a real vibe oh my god i remember with the silver lines with the silver eyes and once i got a boy's one and it had like his aftershave and it was no as in like off a boy at a party and i had his aftershave and i would be like you'd be grossed out no i would be like oh my god i fancy it but i'm like shocked that that just came out of my mouth because i've never really thought of it about how creepy and gross it was it's not creepy that's sweet i went to an

all-girls school look i had to take we're all boy crazy at that age oh my god here she comes right i'm moving. Thanks. The last time I saw you was pregnant. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, God. So she's 11 weeks a day, actually. Maybe three months. I don't know why three months feels so old to me, and it's so upsetting.

Oh, my God, just how much you love her, yeah? I love her so much. I'm obsessed with her. Like, is it everything you dreamed of and more? Yeah. It really is, yeah. Because I know everyone says it's really hard so I feel like you really prepare for like the hardness but no one really talks about that much like how amazing it is as well so then like that hits you like a ton of bricks like how in love you are and it's just great oh my god I'll never forget when

you called us and you were like I've just been crying you this is like day two and you were like, I've just been crying my eyes out. And we were like, oh my God, no, are you okay? And she was like, just because I love her so much. Like just crying is a poor your love. I sometimes do still. You just stare at her and you're like. Is it a love like you've never experienced in your life? Like how can you describe it to me?

You just can't. Like you just know you do anything for them. Like you're so obsessed with them and I one thing I did say I keep saying to mom is like I'm so sorry for any time I've ever been mean to mom because I now know how much she loves us and I'm like oh my god I feel so guilty for ever being mean because you must love us so much oh my god do you think it really changes your relationship with mom yeah I think so like I'm just like oh you love me so much do you think it's changed your relationship with yourself I'm going really off beat I know um oh yeah well in those I feel like I I don't know if this happens to everyone probably doesn't like I definitely feel different in that like I don't know like I just really

thought like oh as soon as like I give birth I'm gonna be so caring about like getting back into my old genes whenever I'm like it's just not a priority like your priorities really switch really quickly more than like so it's not like you're a changed person but you are in a way because suddenly you've got something that's so much more important than anything else that you've ever had in your life so then you don't I don't necessarily care like I care more than making sure my breast milk supply is good than like getting into my old jeans but then also like you second guess bloody everything oh my god like I actually said to break the other day so I'm like not an anxious person really am I oh my god not even a morsel of your being is anxious I said to Georgia I said I don't know

how we are from the same pairing like your head is so screwed on like it's not normal well I've now feel like I feel like anxiety like I said to Paris I now because my husband has gets is really anxious about everything and he's gonna love that but yeah he's such an overthinker and like I'm just so not an overthinker and I was like I now understand the feeling like every single thing I overthink I'm like does this feel right is his poo color okay she pooed enough has she eaten enough has she slept enough but now she's definitely not sleeping enough and I that's for sure where do you get like your information from like is there like a book or like an app oh god there's so many books I'm like in a mom

group with like well I'm in a few mom different mom whatsapp groups but um like one of my closest friends and like we're all trying different routines out and then everyone's like oh this one's not working this one's working so then you're like oh my god it's almost like way too much information I can imagine that it is too much information you're like tracking how long they're in the app tracking how long they're feeding for at a time so you're like constantly on these apps tracking everything then you're trying to like like we're waking up being like oh she did four hours in a row sleeping last night she had six hours in a row sleeping and then you're like oh shit i don't really did one hour oh my god maybe like not that good to say those things

well i don't know i guess it gives you support right if you were up in the middle of the night someone else's maybe yeah it's so good to have like other people to talk to definitely and like also to see what's working

like all my friends actually at the moment all of them have had different night nannies and I actually haven't yet so they're all getting all their routines apparently it's amazing

I know and they're all getting their routines from their night nannies and I'm like send them my way I'm trying them out but yeah and then I've spoken

to a sleep training person not that I'm sleep training her yet but like just to start like a or if I even will sleep train her but like a basic routine and then I've shared that with them so it's all a bit trial and error it's a little bit chaotic mess to be honest and no one's different yeah and every scenario is pretty different with exactly and like one little thing you just go off kilter like you wake up half an hour late and your whole day's

over really yeah what no way because like most routines you want to start at 7 but if I like

accidentally wake up at 8 because she slept in till 8 and I'll be like oh didn't sleep all night but then I'm like oh no my whole day's messed up I planned to go for lunch at 1

but now I can't because I need to be feeding her at 1.30 I see do you know what mum told me she went back to work when I was 6 weeks old what

yeah wow but people do mum who looked after you my grandma Chrissy's mum went back to work after 3 weeks

wow yeah people at my office is like 4 months which is mean it's fun is that because there's no maternity leave or they just choose to you have to redo the maths

unless you have parents that can help I know it must be so hard. Is your salary worth the nursery? Getting childcare or is it better that you... Yeah, it must be

the real thing. It is, yeah. So you're taking a year off, right? Yeah. Which is amazing. I thought that was normal, nine months or a year for maternity leave.

I don't know, actually. I feel like a year, your company has to let you take a year. Yes. But they don't have to pay you for the year. You get the government amount, which is £700 a month. Are you ever like, I'm not sure I'm going to trust her with a stranger at the moment?

Yeah, I haven't approached that yet. Me and Baz were literally talking about something we got invited to, like, end of September. And Barry was like, well, we'll have to check if Soph's free. Oh my God, I can't believe I get that I would be like I don't want anyone but family touching my baby I completely completely agree can't wait I'm free market would I will need it shall we talk should we really go back and talk a bit about the birth story oh my god are you happy to talk about I haven't heard about your birth story it was hideous I'm not gonna lie I don't want to your birth story. I've never been taught about it. It was hideous.

I'm not going to lie. I don't want to put people off and be scary, but it really actually wasn't good. Oh my God. I feel like no one has a good birth story, really, do they? No, I do know people, just to caveat, because I don't want to put people off, but people in my NCT group,

the girl that had her baby first, she really sets up for the false sense of security. She had her baby and then she said my NCT group, like the girl that had her baby first, she really set us up with a false sense of security. She was like, she had her baby and then she said on the group, like, I'll private message anyone that wants to hear my birth story. And I was like, yeah, yeah, fill me in. And she was like, it was great. She had no pain. She didn't even use the gas and air because it was distracting me from my hypnobirthing technique.

Hypnobirthing's a way to go, I think. I really want to be a hypnobirthing gal. I didn I didn't do that obviously because I'm just not that sort of person and really probably regretted that um and yeah she she had no pain relief she popped that baby out it was absolutely fine uh about three and a half hours like how good yeah yeah I know how nice she didn't even she didn't even wake her husband up when her contraction started she thought I'll let him have a few hours sleep because that would not be me I would be like you have to experience every single pain I'd be like I want to get like a muscle stimulation on Jamie so every time I contract he can feel it so he gave you every

second anyway so she told me this I I was like, hmm, sounds alright. And she was like, I ate all the dates and stuff so I really think that held. I remember you just being like, So I was scoffing dates. But what's that meant to do? It stretches your cervix.

Apparently it makes your cervix softer. So like, anyway, didn't work for me. So I've been scoffing dates for weeks thinking, I'll be fine. But anyway, yeah, so I I I think I'd oh yeah I

had a sweep um I actually ended up having two sweeps oh boy they are talk about okay so I want to understand why they do that why don't they just let the baby come naturally when your body wants to have her um they don't like you going over 42 weeks because you're um I think it's because you're people are probably gonna people are so yeah about pregnancy and childbirth like you know dms I got people being like you're trying to push c-sections I'm like no I'm not I'm just saying that my personal experience I will be having c-section next time um okay but and yeah people just really get up in everyone's opinion their feelings about this but I think they don't like going past 42 weeks.

And then obviously some mums, I was desperate to get my prep. I was like, just do whatever you can at this point. Just get her out. Yeah, so it's up to you. Like if you want to hurry a process along. Fine. So a sweep is when they go up with their hand and they like separate the membrane. Yeah.

How far? It feels like up inside to my belly button that's what i felt like i didn't expect that to be so painful but that was painful at the time yeah that was just before i that was this is like a week before i went into labor yeah because she's really high up they've got to like find your cervix and then basically what happened was i was meant on my due date i was meant to meet sofa mom for lunch in chelsea and um i hadn't felt her move for probably about 24 hours but she did do that quite a lot throughout And then basically what happened was I was on my due date. I was meant to meet Sophie's mum for lunch in Chelsea. And I hadn't felt her move for probably about 24 hours. But she did do that quite a lot throughout my pregnancy.

But I just thought, oh, I'll just pop in on my way to lunch just to check she's all right. Because they just check her heartbeat. And then I didn't know because I was past 29 weeks. They were like, oh, if you come in for anything past 29 weeks, we really recommend induction. They were like, she's fine fine we can hear a heartbeat but they were like we just really recommend and obviously if someone says that you're not gonna well I personally would go against like a doctor saying that because then I'd always be like if anything went wrong it's my own fault yeah so I was like and I really don't want to get induced I always thought I don't want to get induced but I was like well obviously I'm gonna have to now so um so for mum I was chilling with me there he was like at home on standby with all our bags and I was like no definitely getting juiced in you come went into

the induction ward all fine they did a put a balloon up there is that what induction is a balloon you can do like loads of different ways of doing it they just start started me off with the balloon and then I didn't need anything else did they inject something into you or no yeah you can get hormones fine okay but yours I didn't need the hormones in the end because I start so as soon as the balloon went in it was actually really funny so the balloon went in and it's like hanging out of your they've got these tubes hanging out from your pants um but they were like it'll probably be an overnight and we're obviously on the king's roads we're at Chelsea andelsea and westminster so we were like can we go for a walk and they were like yeah sure so i can start contracting this point and she was like you

might get some like period pains by the way from the balloon but like nothing that will hurt like you won't you'll barely notice it or you might get nothing so i was like fine off we stroll down the king's road and then suddenly i start getting agonizing pain of course you do why is it everything that they say isn't going to happen happens and I was like I instantly thought if this is what they call a light period pain I can't handle having contractions so I instantly started being like we need to put me in for a c-section now like we've got to we've got to change this whole plan like I'm not yeah exactly because I'm not having contractions we're also like 15 minutes away from

us at this point so I'm walking back being like every two minutes being like, oh my God, something's really wrong. Wait, so were these... They were contractions. So once the doctor was like, no, no, you're contracting. I was like, oh, I can handle that. That's a contraction. But I thought that was like... The period pain.

That was before that. Okay. So yeah, then I started contracting. I was contracting all night. Get a TENS machine, anyone that's pregnant, because that really helps take away the pain from contractions. And what's that? What's that?

TENS. It's like... Is that what they put on a boy to make them feel contractions? I think so. It goes on your back. Yes. Yeah, and it's electronic and it gives you... It just like...

I don't know why it does. It's like... What? It's like takes your brain away from the pain there. Yeah, distracts your brain because you can't feel two pains at once or feelings at once. So next morning, 6am, they come in. They're like, like right off you go we're going putting you into labor ward come in they pop my waters we're just like I need I don't know something sharp but you don't feel it that didn't hurt at all um and then basically by then I was quite solidly having quite big contractions

and I'd always had on my birth plan that I was going to have an epidural so they put an epidural in pretty quickly anyway which was good because my contractions were getting quite intense and painful did they do that enough so my friend just had it where she had she could feel all of her contractions but it just made them really bearable and like not too painful I had it so most the day I couldn't feel anything but unfortunately I think the epidural made me really sick so I was throwing up all day which that's not fun anything that can happen uh happened to one of my friends as well um but anyway and then but the annoying thing is I think my epidural went in too early by the time I was pushing her out I really could feel everything um which wasn't great can't they just put them all

in yeah well they probably would have but we really needed to get her out in like two minutes. So we couldn't. Anyway, I was there all day. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Move forward. Start pushing when I'm fully dilated. And I was actually only pushing for half an hour,

but throughout the day, my heart rate had spiked. I was already on an antibiotic drip and her heart rate had spiked from... Were you on an antibiotic drip because your waters had broken they thought maybe

I might have been getting had an infection with getting a fever my temperature and heart rate was up and I've been throwing up you thought she was on sepsis fucking hell

no they said it could have been sepsis yeah that's what they just but there's always a risk of that in pregnancy Georgia didn't know what sepsis was so Georgia's updating

our family chat and she's like they think I might have sepsis and we're all like that's like so serious and she just doesn't say and then we don't hear from her for five hours and we can't do anything anyway when i started pushing her heart rate had been at like a steady 140 to go with it i went to 155 and then at one point while i was pushing it would jump to 200 which obviously so high especially for a tiny little baby um so the midwife had to push this

emergency button. These doctors all ran in, scrubbed up, and they were like, okay, we need to get her out now. That's terrifying. It was so terrifying. That's so scary. Whipped my legs up into stirrups. They get a ventouse, which is like basically a plunger

attached to a rope to stick to her head and pull her out, basically. Oh, my God. I don't... I can't... You can't... Everyone says, what does childbirth feel like? I can't explain it, but it's agony.

It's genuinely. Oh, I'm really upset. I actually read somewhere the other day that like being born alive and childbirth are like the two most painful things that happen. I honestly can't explain to you how painful it is. I'm also upset because you had an epidural. Yeah, but it fully ran out.

I was like, I can feel everything. So I guess would they have put more in ideally? But then some people say, oh, we're too far along, we can't put it in. Is that because you're already pushing? Yeah, it's dangerous. So maybe, I don't really know. And I think if I'd been probably not having to rush out because she was. You would have just had a bit more maybe.

Yeah. But, and also, you can only top it up every 15 minutes. And it might have just been at that point. Running out. Yeah. Where you couldn might have just been at that point yeah yeah well you couldn't where i and because we couldn't like wait 10 minutes or just top back up honestly petra um oh golly yeah so what they just pulled her out within really quickly and that was what hurt the most yeah well i remember i swear to god at one point i felt her come out and then and then they were like they and i was like okay i've done it and they went one push the heads if we can see the head

and I was like the head's not out oh my god what's that then I don't know what do you think that was then I don't know

I just was I was pushing so hard like and then at one point my doctor the doctor stopped and went stop stop everyone

she went everyone stop Georgia Georgia why are you screaming I was like I actually was like I didn't know what to say I was like what do you mean why am I screaming did you say what do you screaming? I was like I actually was like I didn't know what to say

I was like what do you mean why am I screaming? Did you say what do you mean? Yeah I was like because it hurts I was like What the fuck?

Yeah I know how about that? I was like it's so painful like I have a second degree tear I reckon it was like it was an emergency

Did they think that you or something was wrong? She was probably like I need to check I think Barry was like I think she just thought we really need to get this baby out and, I need to check. Barry was like, I think she just thought,

we really need to get this baby out and we just need to like, she needs, yeah, like I was being hysterical. But Barry was like, you weren't actually even screaming that much. Anyway, long story short, pulled her out. It was painful. But then what was really harrowing was

they pulled her out and they put her on me for skin to skin and she was limp and blue and they had to take off straight away and resuscitate her and she had to have a little oxygen mask on.

Oh my fucking god. It was so hard. And I was obviously screaming crying. So did she stop breathing when she came out? Yeah. But she just didn't

take a fast breath. I think that's actually quite common. of her being pulled out so quickly. Yeah and I think she'd had quite, she'd been like,

she'd been flustered in there. Yeah. She'd had some trauma and apparently sometimes, yeah because she'd been pulled out trauma she'd been flustered in there yeah she'd had some trauma and apparently sometimes yeah because she'd been pulled out then sometimes they just need help taking their first breath

but obviously I didn't really know that I just see my baby's like limp blue and with the oxygen mask on and they're doing CPR so yeah we didn't have the best birth story

but like let's be honest you even when I came in you were like it's been really great the midwives were amazing yeah they were so amazing they were so amazing like every single midwife we met was just heaven George can you tell me about the your favorite day ever with her oh I don't have one favorite every day it's just honestly that

heaven even if such a breath of fresh air to hear that I tell you because some people are really like oh quite negative sometimes about it and you're right no one talks about the blessings yeah because I guess I'm like honestly she slept so badly last night I'm gonna tell you I did shed a tear last night actually when she woke up for the seventh time that's exaggeration just because you're exhausted yeah and just I was like why aren't you sleeping but um but still like it's honestly just the best thing ever um but yeah I feel like the most emotional I know I honestly have cried so many times because I love her so much but I on Christmas morning I like was in bed with her with like me and Barry we had like

cute lighting me and her wearing matching Christmas pajamas Barry wouldn't wear his which I did buy he wouldn't put them on and I literally was like Barry was like half asleep she was asleep and I was like just started crying and he was like why are you crying and I was like I'm so happy I just love her so much oh my god it's so no I can't and do you feel like obviously for Barry and for men in general they don't they just don't have that same like initial bond of love like we do or is it? I think it can they I've heard like mixed things but I know Tom like he was so worried like how about how hard it was gonna be and he's been like pleasantly surprised. That's lovely so he's like god this is so much easier than I thought. Tell the story about him in the hospital when you had him.

Oh my god that was a sweet thing I was like I'd been asleep and he'd been holding her or feeding her or something and I woke up

and he was had her and he was singing you know that Phil Collins song from Tarzan I will protect you from

no that was I will protect you from yeah he was singing that to her on his own and I don't you cry he was singing that to her on his own and I don't you cry

cause you'll be in my heart oh my god he'll sing it to her and I can't bear it it's too much for me I obviously better start crying

he's amazing with her he's really good he's amazing yeah I think he was like personally surprised by actually how it's like not as hard as he thought it'd be

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No. Okay, fine. It's just I've got mad, bad, sad. Yeah, fine. I'm glad I'm getting older. I'm so lucky to be getting older, and I'm glad that I've got mad, bad, sad. Yeah, fine. Yeah. I'm glad I'm getting older. I'm so lucky to be getting older and I'm glad that I'm enjoying it. You can follow Mad, Sad and Bad with Paloma Faith

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So let's get into the dilemmas now. Okay, ready? I'd really appreciate your advice on something that's been weighing on my mind we had to postpone our wedding due to the loss of one of our parents it has been such a difficult time we're now thinking about planning it again and I realize how much this loss has changed my perspective on what I want from my wedding day and who I want around me grief has changed my view on some of my friendships. I've grown closer to some people and more distant from others. I'm also much more protective of my energy. Here's where I'm stuck. I'm a part of a group of 15 friends. God, that's a

lot of friends in a group who I've been close with in the past, but I now feel connected to only about 10 of them. I didn't invite five of them to my hen do four years ago and felt so at ease with this smaller group. My partner and I are praying for everything, are paying for everything ourselves. So each guest adds to the cost and pressure. I'm trying to decide one, do I invite everyone in the group to avoid awkwardness and just focus on those I'm closest to on the day? Two, do I ask the less close friends group to travel two hours to come to the evening reception? Or three, do I just stick to the ones I feel closest to even if it's awkward within the group or makes my wider friendships feel more strained? The thought of navigating

this decision and potentially having people there who don't feel quite right makes me question if I want a wedding at all. I'd love to hear your thoughts and advice on how to handle this. Oh my god, that's really hard what do you think I it depends what your priorities are it depends whether you care enough to sustain your relationships after this wedding because I do think this would sever a couple relationship friendships yeah it's quite a big statement I think speaking from it's not my own experience but from my sister's experience and a really dear friend of mine's experience my sister kept the same people on her wedding list they didn't change but she were I think at her age she was I don't have friends that are half

friends it firstly also by the way I'm so sorry for your loss I mean this was always this was just over a year ago, but obviously an incredible difficult time. And then one of my best friends recently had this happen to them. And they, I mean, it happened literally like a month before they got married, which is at the end of last year. And he did make some decisions to cut some people out of the wedding, not because he didn't want them there,

but he wanted some of his lost parents' friends there. So he said, I'm really sorry obviously this has happened um I'm gonna have to uninvite you to the wedding I really hope you understand can you and his wife was like in a state of grief sometimes you make decisions and they might be right or they might be wrong but sometimes you just have to follow like your gut and you're No one's going to understand how you're feeling. If you don't want them there, they just have to fucking understand. And you can't worry so much about how they're going to feel. If you're going to feel so much better not having them there, then do it. But then are you going to worry about the fact that you haven't invited them more?

If it was me or you, I would give you the advice of option two. Invite them to the after party reception they're not there for the intimate part and if they can be bothered to track that track all that way two hours is really not that far then great i completely agree you won't feel this like this sense of anxiety that you've got right now of like do i invite them do i not you'll probably feel it in a in another way if you don't invite them I completely agree I think that's like a happy medium and I think if your gut's telling you that you don't want them there for whatever reason just follow it like you've got to follow your gut yeah and like you're so right no one can understand grief yeah so if they're true friends like you're going through

a really difficult time and ultimately it's your decision and if that's what you want to do you've got to follow your your choice I think inviting them is like a very happy medium where like you don't have to agree also like even though you're not as close to them they're still maybe an important part of like your life before this wedding and like an important part of like your journey maybe it's a couple I don't know totally and like in the future you might be really close with a few of them again like things might bring you back together I think just because you've grown apart a little bit from them doesn't mean you should cut them out as such I so agree as long as they're not bringing you down that's a whole nother thing but it sounds like you've just grown apart from them slightly and you don't feel as connected to them.

But that's sometimes okay. You don't have to feel super close to all your friends throughout your life. You probably drift in and out sometimes with friendships a little bit. I completely agree. But we're sending you so much love and I hope it goes okay. Love you and I hope you have a gorgeous wedding. Me too. Congratulations.

It's going to be such a happy day. Yeah, try to think about it. Just be selfish and do what makes you happy at the end of the day because it is about you. A hundred percent. Dilemma two. Hey ladies, I've been with my boyfriend for two years and recently split up with him. He thinks it's because I've been distant and checked out of the relationship. On reflection, I think I have been, but there is another reason.

Over Christmas, I went to visit my older brother and his girlfriend. His girlfriend has a brother. Uh oh. Oh my God let's call him through harry who was also there let's not call him out no i'm joking i've met him once before and on our first meeting there was a definite vibe surely not this is very keeping it in the family i met him once more and on my first meeting there was definitely a vibe which i ignored as I was in a relationship. We were having some Christmas drinks and getting along very well. Don't read ahead and then get shot. I can't, my eyeballs do it.

We ended up kissing and I nearly slept with him. I really like Harry's company and can't stop thinking about him. There are a few issues. He's 31 and I'm 21 and he's also had a previous girlfriend of nine years. Am I stupid for thinking there could ever be anything with him? I don't know why but I kind of want to live out this fantasy immediately.

I think go for it. You only live once. You're 21. You're probably going to piss off your brother's girlfriend. Is she? Don't think she's got a choice. Why should she? Then she should be then she could be like don't date my brother if you don't want me to date your brother's girlfriend is she don't think she's got a choice why should she then she should be then she could be like don't date my brother if you don't want to date my me to date your brother

I don't want you dating my brother very true but she's got there first but it's like my sister's husband having a brother which he does and then me dating him I mean you know what no it's not like your sister it's like your brother's boyfriend no it's not it's your brother's girlfriend it's very different it's you fancy's your brother's girlfriend it's very different it's you fancying your brother's girlfriend's brother you know what I'm sure this sort of thing happens quite a lot

can I just say something if you were 30 and you'd been with someone for 5 years and you started fancying some bloke and you were like oh my god I'm gonna

I'd be like the grass isn't greener hun like don't do it if you're 21 just go out and spread your wings fuck it you're not gonna get married as long as it

as long as this stays in like an amicable way and it ends nicely and no one fucks each other over i think it's absolutely fine because ultimately if your brother your brother's gonna marry this girl you're gonna see this guy a lot like they're gonna effectively become you'll see them at weddings like you'll see them at i don't see tom's brother i mean i'm not seeing his brothers that much although i did see them i see you're so right i'm like how is it relevant i don't see josh's brothers you don't i've literally met them once all right listen yeah you're gonna go for it but i want you to keep your wits about you he's older go into it heads like i

this has just been a fun i fancy him I really want to sleep with him if nothing else you don't want to be with your current boyfriend enough if I mean speak to yourself you've answered your own question

I think go for it as long as everything potentially ends amicably if it does end then it's fine I mean you're really gonna it's not

incestuous but it's not but it kind of is it's crossing that boundary of like it's like kind of having sex with your stepbrother. If you want to put yourself off, you just think that you and your brother are shagging the same blood. And that to me is a little bit too much. Like you are. That is so true.

They've got the same mum and dad. God, your children also would literally virtually be the same DNA. Listen literally virtually listen listen listen it's you and your brother sleeping with siblings oh yeah it's weird it's weird no it's not it is oh it is it is very confusing it's because it's a boy and girl that's why i quite can't quite wrap my head around it like it's a brother and a sister rather than two brothers it's you and Will sleeping with two a brother and a sister yeah

and them sleeping no it's kind of weird it is kind of weird but then I also am like cruel intentions it's giving cruel intentions but that is stepbrother the problem is

that I've got a feeling that this guy might be a bit creepy and I don't know why he might be really hot he's 31 he's older than you he's just come out

of a new relationship I kind of think it's a bit weird for a 31 to be shagging a 21-year-old. I agree, actually. That's actually a bit of a red flag. Why have we not talked about that? I would agree. And I would also say I would be concerned he's come out of a nine-year relationship.

He's not looking for another relationship. Especially not with a 21-year-old. No, no. He's been like, oh my God, you're sick. I just shagged a 21-year-old. Also, she's quite hot. She's going to be around. I can always corridor creep. That vibe. Look, I don't think Christmas is you've fallen for this 31 year old

obviously it's quite clear what's happening you should probably just have sex with them and then just like you'll fall in love with him honestly why I don't think she would I reckon I get there very easily sex can give you the incredible it really can I love how we say that as though we've really slept around but if there's a connection there and you fancy them and you sleep with them

oof yeah but then there's going to be a connection there from his side if there's a connection no boys don't get the same fuck you they just don't fall in love

in the same way like they can think that you're fit and like fancy you and have a vibe and then they sleep with you and then they might not be like gone hair and love

like we are you need to sense check yourself are you the type of girl who falls head over heels for boys you want a relationship you get with a boy and you're like i really fancy him and you come a bit obsessive because let's be honest we all have that in our system we all have it in us but some of us have the ability to be like i know i can just shag somebody and then just be like i'm done that's gonna be it yeah i don't have that ability really oh no I I do and I don't. You do. I think you do. No I obviously have but there is some some scenarios have but had to be like oh my god of course. Really can feel the obsession like building inside of my body. I know. I think that was it. I really need to tame that lion.

I think, look, you've got to do what you've got to do because you're 21. Please update us on this and before we say anything else, I need to know what's going to happen from this. I need every possible detail

because this sort of shit means they've been there before. I'm going to go home and dream about this tonight for you. I will too. I'm going to watch Baby Girl tonight.

I'm so jealous. I'm seeing it tonight. I'm seeing it tomorrow. I know, I'm really excited. I wish I'd watched it before this so I could debrief you all. But anyway, send us photos. Keep us updated because I am in the story every step of the way with you. I must see what he looks like and I need to see what everything, the situation is.

Much more detail, please. I also just have to say one thing before it escapes my brain. Do you remember when you and I sat together when I was single and we sent a DM to a boy a waving hand emoji and then it unsent and then we resent it

and then it unsent even though he read them both bumped into him last night leaving the gym with Toby it was so the first time I've ever seen him in real life

and I literally wanted to just sink to the pavement I come straight out the sauna bun on head face is bright red from the sauna

straight out the sauna you've done something, face is bright red from the sauna. Not out the sauna. That's God. Straight out the sauna. You've done something fucked off somebody out there because that is cruel. That is cruel intentions. I'm walking with my long, you know, my long brown coat that drowns me. I like that one though. It's sweet. Giving mummy chic.

And I'm wearing my Birkenstocks. I am not looking hot. There's no makeup on. And I'm like just mincing about next to Jamie like dragging my feet and he was like hey man and there's a Chelsea game on I'm like no no no no no and I turn around like it's him like fuck's sake did you speak I know by the way I had to I was like I'm gonna have to go and introduce myself can I just say my miss when she doesn't want to and I was like I went to be like I know I sent you a dm and you read it and then you deleted it and then I did it again and then you deleted it

it's embarrassing so embarrassing but let's just say if he now sees this podcast maybe he could just write in and clarify what happened with that because we were so confused

someone needs to tell us is there a social media expert that knows what happens with that because it disappeared before our eyes twice I know but did he see it in my mind it never said

it said read and we were like oh my god sick maybe he'll reply we went off we went back on gone so we were like oh my god sick. Maybe he'll reply. We went off. We went back on. Gone. So he was like

well send another one then. Why is this advertise? I don't know why. We had quite a lot of wine. Well that's the end of the episode. I heard you guys liked it. I really enjoyed it.

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