Wednesdays - 74. Melissa Weighs In on Sophie’s Argument with Jamie

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Hey Tinies!This week, Sophie and Melissa dive into all things Love Island (disclaimer: this was recorded pre-final, so no spoilers here!). They also spill on their looks for the Br...idget Jones premiere, and Sophie dishes on a heated argument with Jamie—was she in the right, or is this one up for debate? Now, onto this week’s dilemmas: One Tiny is dealing with a boyfriend who’s got a slight BO problem, while another is torn between leaving her husband to rekindle things with her first love. Is it worth the risk, or is the grass not actually greener?Want More?! Check out our premium subscription The Follow Up - AD FREE, BONUS EPS and ALL the goss wednesdays.supercast.com/If you have one or a dilemma, any personal advice for another Tiny, or a follow up to a dilemma? You can send us a voice note or message using the link here.--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer: @gurlinaheer_Editor: Kat MilsomExec: @jemimarathbone and Holly NewsonVideo editor: @jakeji.pVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 Melissa, are you a doctor? I want to be, but I'm not. I'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists. We're not. We're not experts in anything. In fact, we just challenge all our shit. We love giving you guys advice, but as we said- We love giving you guys advice. Do not take what we're saying as gospel.
Starting point is 00:01:24 If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. Coming up on this week's episode of Wednesdays, we're getting straight into the Laugh Island chat, but disclaimer, this was recorded before we knew who it actually was. I test Sophie's telepathic skills, and I also weigh in on her and Jamie's squabble. On the Dilemmas, we have a stinky boyfriend issue
Starting point is 00:01:45 and a tiny who might be ditching her husband for her fast love. Enjoy the episode. Hello. Hello, chickens. Do you want to see my Anaconda? Where's my chicken? Where's my chicken?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Where did that come from? Why did you do that? I don't like the chicken. Like, right, we're going to. Where's my chicken? Where's my chicken? Where did that come from? Why did you do that? I don't like the chicken. Why the chicken? We're gonna go straight in with that. I love Casey. I love Casey. He is such a gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Can I just like preset this? We loved Casey. We've always loved him. But like I never thought his chat was, like, attractive. I was like, jokes. Really fun. Would love to be as me. But I actually think he's got, like, good chat. Yeah. They don't show much of him. Naughty, naughty Curtis, though.
Starting point is 00:02:34 No. In case you are living under a rock. I mean, obviously he's not watching Love Island, right now. Come on, guys. I get really offended when people are on, and they're like, oh, it's too much of a commitment. I do get it. It's, like, overwhelming when you haven't... What's everyone else doing at 9 p.m are on and they're like, oh, it's too much of a commitment. It's overwhelming when you haven't...
Starting point is 00:02:49 What's everyone else doing at 9pm on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday? Like, what the fuck are you doing? Come on. I'm literally like, come on. Come on, come on, come on. OK, Casey or Luca, I know that you're going for Luca because you keep trying to break him up into my Casey conversations with you. I'm like, I love Casey and you're like, yeah, but what about Cooper?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Casey looks wise, not that we should be divulging this, but I'm going to. It's more my vibe, much more my vibe. Can I just say, Jamie, this is the sort of shit he won't be okay with. Also, this is the sort of shit they're not allowed to say. They can't say if they think someone's worried about. I can say I like Bradley Cooper,
Starting point is 00:03:19 but like, this would be a step too far. Oh yeah, because this is almost like they're Sammy our realm. Like, Casey Films made Chelsea. Right, okay, let's deep dive. Lucas really fit. I'm just having a huge scum off lately. I'm so sorry for the ASMR. I need cheering. Lucas really fit.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He's also, I think in his first season he had better chat. He was a bit more cheeky. No, we need to talk about this first season. What? How much we fancied him? We fancied him until Gemma Owen ruined it for us. Gemma Owen gave me the ick with Luca Bish because of how he acted with her.
Starting point is 00:03:50 No, because she had the ick with him from getting going. Because she had the ick. So then I had the ick, and it was so obvious. It was awful. I know. But he's recovered, and Grace has really put it back for us, and I'm thrilled. Grace is gorgy as well. I'm loving them together. Grace is so fair.
Starting point is 00:04:04 The thing is, is that I feel like he is so sweet. Like, I love him, I'm rooting for him. I think he's one of my favorites. I think he's got such a nice heart. Agree. Agree. I think he's, like, too sensitive, maybe. No, maybe you'd fall in love with him. I don't know. I think you would fall in love with him. No, actually, when he did the dance, I was like...
Starting point is 00:04:24 I also feel like they probably just show all those bits. I imagine like 24 hours he's probably sensitive like a few times and they're just showing all those bits. So who are we... What's the conversation we're working out whether we like Casey or Luca? Very different. I think we vote... I'm gonna vote Casey just because I feel like he's funnier.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And when I met him that one time, I met him once in our boat-tops place, and he was a sweet pea, and he just had this huge ground on his face and gave me a big hug, a specific map before. No, quite tall, I remember. But you know what, me and Elle are also quite short people. So, to me, next to Elle, he was really tall. And anyone, really, that gives me a hug that's taller than me seems tall. But he was not short. He's definitely taller than Toby and Jamie.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Oh, he's really fucking tall then. Toby's tall. I think he's like six foot. Yeah, Toby's just under six foot. He's six foot? Yeah. Toby's five eight. Sorry, I don't know why I was making Toby and Jamie the same height. Toby really upset with that. Sorry, he's not five eight. He's five nine. He's five nine when she's on.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He's five ten. He actually says he's five eleven. I like it. She just sits there and like, I know, I know. You know what I will say about Jamie being short? I couldn't give a crap and I actually think, I fancy loads of guys who are short. There's not many tall people out there. What I really don't like is that people think I am a fucking giant. They are like, they think I am six foot tall.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Gigantor. Someone called me a gigantor at a wedding once and I literally was like... Me and you person? They think I am six foot tall. Gigantall. Someone called me Gigantall at a wedding once and I literally was like... Me and you, Gigantalls. Yeah, yeah. Sophie was like storming through. I just heard this name across this wedding being like, hey Gigantall. And I was like, surely not a man. Oh my god, that's awful.
Starting point is 00:05:59 She was very funny and very sweet. You have to be sensitive. Sometimes people are like, I know someone that's like super, as in six foot eight tall. Six foot eight? He's six foot eight. And all anyone ever says to him is, oh, my God, you're so tall. It's actually quite a horrible thing to say to someone over and over again. It's like, all right, fucking, obviously I know how tall I am.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Totally. You wouldn't say to someone short, oh, my God, you're so short. I probably would, because I say it the most bizarre things. Me too. I know what you mean. We're going to do a little bit of a role play. The only thing I think I've only got short. I probably work because I say the most bizarre things, but I know what you mean. Right, we're gonna do a little bit of a role play. The only thing I think I've only got in the Eken suit, so you're gonna have to be Curtis. I am fascinated by her accent, it's all I talk about.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Where is that accent from? Apparently she's had three different names, have you seen this? She's had three different... I don't know if this is true. I can't work out whether she's Northern. The accent is so unique. Yeah. Okay, so we're gonna be...
Starting point is 00:06:44 Can I... Should we have a chat? No, that's really bad. Eken, can I pull you for a chat? Naughty, naughty. You're a naughty little devil, aren't you? You broke my heart. You broke my heart. I'm falling.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I just was truthful. I didn't mean anything by it. I was just true to myself. But, Curses, I've given you my heart. And I really like you. I really like you, and you're naughty. OK, we're done now. What I have to say about Ekin Su.
Starting point is 00:07:25 She's fucking great TV. She's amazing television. If she wasn't on it, it would be like way more boring. It would be so mediocre. But she fascinates me so much. I find her such an interesting character and I find her personally to be quite robotic and I can't connect with anything. She's so acting.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's really, it's really obvious. But it's peculiar how anyone's even buying into that, if they are. And how Curtis is, and how she thinks they are. But I actually know for a fact that she used to... You know that guy that used to run like Ocean Beach? He's a Lineker. What's his name? Wayne Lineker.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Gary Lineker. Oh, Wayne Lineker. No, Wayne Lineker. She used to be like one of those girls that was like with Wayne Lineker, as in like worked for him. Right. Like at Ocean Beach or whatever. She was like, get me on Love Island. And he like made it happen for her, apparently. That's from an inside source.
Starting point is 00:08:14 She's a liar and a cheat and an actress. Do we actually think to be fair? No, she is an actor. I think that is what a professional... That is her bag. Oh, fair. Look, she's keeping it up. That even though she's like actor. I think that is what a professional is. That is her bag. Oh, fair. Look, she's keeping it up, I'll say. That, even though she's acting, I'm like... Oh, it's providing phenomenal entertainment. You know what I mean? Also, like, if she's...
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's almost like, thank God she's not actually like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would love to know what she is actually like, though. I reckon she's like a similar version. Because I haven't connected emotionally to her whatsoever. No, no, no. Neither me, but I kind of love her. Elmer is my favourite girl. Same, but I didn't Neither me, but I kind of love her. Elmer is my favorite girl. Same, but I didn't like...
Starting point is 00:08:47 She was a bit mean to Scott. Oh, yeah, what do we think about Scott? Poor old Tina's not having a good time in there, is she? I think it's a real shame because Scott's left and that gorgeous girl's just come in, which I think they would have really vibed. Okay, so we're rooting for... I actually think that Luca will win with Grace.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Me too, because I actually think they'll... I reckon they'll do, like, good. Oh, I honestly think that Luca will win with Grace. Me too. Because I actually think they'll, I reckon they'll date. Oh, I honestly think they might actually just fully go the distance forever. Oh God, it just brings me so much joy. Right. We also just had the Bridget Jones premiere. Oh yeah. Melissa was there on the carpet.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It was so sweet. I looked at you. You just killed me because everyone struts in, right? And they're fucking freezing. They're in these dresses. I just look at Melissa, she's in a coat down to the floor, and I think... And I literally say to Jamie... I gave it to someone to hold.
Starting point is 00:09:29 She better not have had her... I pictured you taking your photo with her. I went, she better not have had her photo with her. I was like, should I take my coat off? The PR woman was like, if you want to. And I was like, oh, maybe I keep it on. And then I was like, no, my agent will fucking kill me if I keep my coat on in the photos. I would have taken it off you and marked you down there.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I was like, I think she kept it on. I took it off, took it off, full of pictures. She'd have been proud of me. Walked down, we saw Sophie and Jamie doing their thing. And then I was really upset because somebody went inside and I couldn't hear what you guys were saying once we were inside because there were so many people talking in the cinema so we couldn't hear the speakers.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I was like pretty great with everyone. And then by the time Hugh Grant came, I think I was just like a bit taken aback. Leo Woodle, Jamie kept being in my ear about Leo Woodle and Hugh Grant and I. So Hugh Grant comes on, I've got a headpiece in, I've got this wonderful guy Steve, chat, chat, chat. There was this really long sentence, I think it was like, what's the transition from Daniel from the big 2001 to now? He kept saying this question on loop and I don't know why, but my mouth was like, what's the annual 2001 transition? It just came out so wrong. And you can't bless him. Typically, I reckon he'd have been like, said something like, that didn't make any
Starting point is 00:10:35 sense. He's like, I didn't hear you. Because he obviously was like, I did hear you, but you just made zero sense. And I just laughed. I was like, I'm done. I've checked out my feet, I'm so cold. My outfit was like head to toe latex. Guys, it was amazing. I felt like a condom, basically. I smacked like a condom, I sounded like a condom. I felt like a big condom. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:57 People were really interested in how I got into outfit. Yeah, was it a Ross from Friends situation, talc? It was me butt naked, talc'd up to to the knives and then we oiled it all down. So you oil it because everything sticks to it. It's like static. So my hair would stick to it and the mic kept sticking to it. Vicky, come on, talk about yours then. And then mine was just a simple dress, which I got from Besta.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I found this gorgeous acne dress and I was like, that's lovely. And you were dripped in boodle jewelry. It was a bit pervy. I was like, that's lovely. And you were dripped in boodle jewelry. It was a bit perky. Oh, yeah. I felt really anxious about returning it, because I was like, oh, my God, I need to take that jewelry back. I thought you meant the dress. I thought you just wore the dress and went and turned it.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I was like, you can't say that. Like, you've got to... Should I actually tell you guys this funny story? So, when I first joined Made in Chelsea, I thought everyone wore, like, real designer, which, of course, some people did, but a lot of people were literally wearing pretty little things. You know?
Starting point is 00:11:53 So that's me, like, we're on... Can we say we were on 50 quid a day at the beginning? Yeah, that's OK. I'm 23, I've got no money. Time's really tough back then. Time is really tough. I'm on 50 pounds a day. I'm like, God, I've got this event day. I go onto Net-a-Fortress, I buy this dress,
Starting point is 00:12:08 and I'm like, I'm just gonna keep the tagging and return it. Yeah, people do that. But also, stylists do that a lot. I think you have to say, and like, you're like, oh, it's for a shoot. But anyway, so I have got this tagging tucked inside my dress. Anyway, they mic me up. My first day, guys. Firstly, I turned up in my dress, which is not the dumb thing. You turn up in trackies and arcs
Starting point is 00:12:28 and then you change it to the... Anyway, the whole thing is embarrassing. No one fucking tells you that. No one fucking tells you. I'm in heels at like 9 a.m. And as I'm walking up the stairs, the producer goes, oh, got your tag still in? And rips it out my dress. It was like a grand in the dress. And I'm there like this. So the whole way through the scene, I'm like... It... I'm terrible.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I'm terrible. I was 23. I was like, God, I just didn't have... I was like, Dad, I'm sorry. Oh, my God. So don't do that, guys. Don't do that. Fuck me. Just get the juice. There's so many good juice.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I didn't know about the juice. No, there wasn't back then, there wasn't. I don't think I've had a malfunction as such like that. Like, that's really awful, because I just know, like, the heart-sinking feeling when that tag was ripped out. Fuck me. That is awful. But I do remember when it would be like, guys, you're literally told sometimes the night before,
Starting point is 00:13:16 right, then day, tomorrow, this is the theme. They send us a spreadsheet, and it's like, ball gowns. And you're like, where the fuck am I going to find this in 24 hours? It's actually so mental, the stress. And I was like, oh my God, what am I going to do? The amount of times I had to go into self-discharge and buy things that I couldn't afford. And then I would just like... Just to keep perceptions up.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I know. Bless us. Imagine being invited to like six amazing parties a month that you have to have different outfits for. That's what it was like. And back then there was no renting. Now if we were to do it again, all these amazing places that do rentals of like dresses. Like what is there? There's her by rotation. We just didn't know we were so young. And well, they didn't exist back then. Now, oh god, it would be a breeze. It would be a breeze.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Talking about that, I keep getting tagged in like really old Made in Chelsea videos and I don't, A, don't, like me and Ruby sat in a chair and I'm like, look, some things are meant to just happen. What are you talking about? I don't know, she looks like she's about to cry and she looks so cute and tiny. I need to say, she has no makeup on. It must have been about Rez. It must have been about Rez.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Because that's going back a long time, because when you were still on it, it was about that time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it would have been. It must have been about Rez and I just think, ugh, look at the state of me. Oh my god, I always think that when I look at our videos. Okay, I just want to get your guys' opinion because me and Jamie had a fight yesterday. Oh yes. Right, and I saw Manista and she was like,
Starting point is 00:14:40 oh my god, I... I get it. Yeah, you got it. But Jamie thinks I'm psychotic, and this is like what, this is the same fight we have all the time. So basically, he'll call me, I'll either be on my period or just like, it's great, it's fucking miserable, it's a Monday, I'm having a really shit day. And he's like, and I'm like, oh my God, like, I've gotta go, I'm not gonna see you now
Starting point is 00:15:01 till after New York, like in that voice. And he's like, wah, wah, wah, wah, like, you're so negative.'" So then I'm like, "'What the fuck? Why'd you call me negative?' I would be so annoyed. And he's like, it's just a joke, like, "'Chill the fuck out, I'm allowed.' I'm like, don't call me negative.'" It's like, don't poke the angry bear.
Starting point is 00:15:20 -"Don't keep living a bad day." -"I'm clearly having a bad day." Like, let's just tiptoe around me. Egg shells. Egg shells! Oh, this time, guys. Let's just tiptoe around me. Egg shells. Egg shells. This time, guys. Get that egg shell out of your foot. Oh my God. And just keep your mouth shut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Also, I look at like Casey and he just laughs. I didn't even mean that. I watched Casey last night. And then Gabby's like crying because he fucking like didn't score, like his heart rate didn't end. He just laughs at her and I'm like, I'm a psycho, it's Gabby. But Jamie would be like... Just send him that clip. Jamie would be like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Exactly, just like, you need to accept that I'm mental. And you need to get on board. He needs to be a bit more, not manipulative, that's completely the wrong word. He needs to know how to manipulate a situation into making it a better situation sometimes. In terms of, right, this is my natural reaction, but I'm actually going to be like this to make her in a better mood.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Do you know what I mean? Just, like, work the situation. Yeah. I know doing the TikTok will make it messy. I think I can be foul. Sometimes I go, don't fuck it up. I go, hey! Don't talk to me like that. Oh, I bet that really jars him.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He wouldn't like that. He finds it funny, then he laughs at me. Maybe I should have done that. I was me like that. Oh, I bet that really jars him. He wouldn't like that. He finds it funny and then he laughs at me. Maybe I should have done that. I was more like this. I went, right then, gonna go then. I was like, bye. He was like, why are you leaving?
Starting point is 00:16:32 And I was like, because all you do is tell me that in the negative. So anyway, guys, do you agree, like, if you're in a bad mood, like your boyfriend should, or husband, should just accept it and be like, darling, don't worry. It's really weird because I think men, they have this thing where they want to just shake it out. Find a solution to the situation immediately. And it's like, no, no, no, I'm going to pull myself out of this bad mood. It's temporary, but I just need you to be...
Starting point is 00:16:56 Like wallowing it with me. Yeah, kind of OK with it. Like, don't like make me feel shitter about it. Like, let's not talk about the fact I'm in a bad mood. Let's just navigate around it. Don't ever say cheer up to me. Like, I am done. But you know what? I do... Now I'm thinking about it. When Toby's in a bad mood, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:09 "'Oof, bad mood today." Like, I do say that. Yeah, I'm like, wow, grumpy. Yeah. I do say that. I mean, there's double Sanders and I'm not afraid to say it. He cannot behave that way with me. Like, he can... Also, I will say periods are a real thing. Like, if I'm on my period...
Starting point is 00:17:24 The boys aren't getting PMS. You've got to give me 14 fucking days grace. Fourteen? Yeah, seven days before, I'm psychotic. Seven days before, there's three days before. Three... About a week before, for about a period of two or three days. I'm really irritable. Yeah. But then when the period comes, I'm great.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, I know, me too, but I'm on my period now. But it is just a bit comes, I'm great. Yeah, I know. Me too. But I'm on my period now. But it is just a bit great. And yesterday was a very good Monday. Sometimes you're allowed to be in a fucking bad mood. Coffee. You know what I mean? It's also when they get an opening and they're like, oh, cheer up.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And you're like... No, no. My worst with Jamie is when he goes... It's when they get serious and say... When he's like, look how great your life is. I'm like, I know my life's fucking great. But I'm not five minutes to just be a bitch. Yeah. He's like, don't you think, look around. I'm like, I know my life's fucking great, but I'm not five minutes to just be a bitch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 He's like, don't you think, look around? I'm like, no. He's like, look at the sun shining. And I'm like, I swear to God he does that. Look at these walls and this roof over your head. Right, Bridget Jones is in such a foul mood. I don't know why. It was just a lot. I found it really overwhelming the day.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I was saying, I don't know how they do this. It wasn't that. I love being on stage. The getting ready with me, there was like 20 people in the room. And I was like, I was doing a lot of other things, not prep. And I wanted to just chill, prep, whatever. So I was in such a fun mood, and he was like, aren't you so happy that you get to do this? I'm a celebrity, get me out of here.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I was like, no, I'm not. I went, I'm never working with you again. Okay, so this is called Psychic Sophie. So last week I wrote Sophie a little mini love letter and I said that Sophie's telepathic and her telepathic skills help me to ever tell if I'm pregnant or not, etc. So, you know, for example, once I was like, oh my god, so if I think I'm pregnant, blah, blah, blah, blah, she's like, you're not, I can just sense it, don't worry, you're not. And I was like, okay, fine, I won't take it because you're not, then. I trust you, you're telepathic, because they're not, jeez. The clear blues are expensive.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh, god, I know. So we thought it'd be fun to put that to the test, and we're going to play a little association game. I'm going to say a word that I think you're gonna think is associated. So you have to guess the other word, basically. All right. So there's a list of words on my sheet here. And you've got to read my mind and guess, like, what the word is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Right, let's try and see if you're truly telepathic or not. Okay, so... Yeah. Number one, Christmas podcast 2023. Chockney. Yeah. Ha ha. Christmas podcast 2023. Chockney. Yeah. Damn! Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Jamie Lang Massage. Jamie Lang Massage. We've told this funny story. Okay. What is it? Any boy and a massage. Bona. There's actually two words written here.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Oh, happy ending? Yes. Okay. Icky. What a person this is. Yeah. Curtis. Curtis.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. There's actually two words written here. Oh, happy ending? Yes. Okay. Icky. What a person this is. Curtis. Yeah. Oh, bless it. My coffee. Full fat.
Starting point is 00:20:16 My pods that I use. Grind. Yeah. Casey. This is two words. TikTok. No. two words. TikTok. No. Good chat.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Um, snorter. Big dick. Oh god, I can't. Casey, two words. What's up? Um, what does he give us? I'm not saying fanny thrusters, so that's okay. How do I, he doesn't!
Starting point is 00:20:41 No, he doesn't, but I knew that you would just get it if I said that. Whoever wrote these, it's too funny. Oh god.'t, but I knew that you would just get it if I said that. Whoever wrote these is too funny. Oh, God. All right, okay, should we get into the dynamics? Who wants this last parachute? I do. Enjoy the number one feeling. Winning in an exciting live dealer studio. Exclusively on FanDuel Casino, where winning is undefeated. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Please play responsibly. Okay, this is a difficult one, ladies, and I need your help. I'm 35, married with two beautiful children. I've been with my husband since I was 19, and we're happy, successful, and nightmost couples have our ups and downs, but overall, all good. However, I recently ran into my first love. I hate to say this, but it was kind of like a movie. Oh my God. My heart aches.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I was at a work party, and there he was just standing across the room staring at me. I haven't seen this man in 18 years. I had to stop my jaw from dropping to the floor. I was so shocked. He came over and we started talking and honestly the butterflies in my stomach were unreal. Oh shit. What the fuck? It was like nothing I felt in years.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Almost as if there was electricity between us. Nothing happened but I kind of wish it did. He gave me his number and told me he was recently single and asked if there was electricity between us. Nothing happened, but I kind of wish it did. He gave me his number and told me he was recently single and asked if I was. I told him I was married with two kids and he laughed and said, let's see for how much longer. No, I don't like that. Now all I do is think about him and I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:22:36 What do I do? It's been three days and I haven't texted him, but the adaptation is so real. Do I throw away my life for what may end up as a fling? Or is he my person? Okay. That hasn't really happened to me in a long time, butterflies in the stomach, since I was like dating Tobes in the early starts.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And I'm sure you had it when you were like getting married and stuff, because it's like nervous things. But I haven't like met a boy and been like, oh my God, butterflies in my stomach. That's like a huge thing. And I've seen a lot of my exes and I do not get that. I worry that like you...
Starting point is 00:23:07 You're like married, you've got kids, like life isn't so sexy anymore. Exactly. You've bumped into the sex, like you said, it's like a movie and like... It will take you back to a younger time in your life. That's what it's doing. It's taking you... It's time traveling you slightly. It's exactly it. It's taking you back to that time when you were free.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You were like... Young. You had no responsibilities. And like, the grass will not be greener. Oh no. Oh no. Like, do not do it. If you and your husband are happy, do not go there. Do not go there. I think this is a huge mistake. Me too. I think you'd delete that voice number.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah. Listen, our advice would be different if you were like, me and my husband are growing apart, like, I love him to bits, he's the father of my children, but I'm just not in love with him. We are in different places, whatever. You know, that would be different. You haven't said one thing bad about your husband, you're like, I love him so much, he's great,
Starting point is 00:23:56 like, we have the most amazing life. I really think the moment anything would, if anything were to happen, the moment it did, you would have instant regret. Butterflies would disappear and you would just be like, oh god, that was all in my head. Yeah, like, why did I do that? The grass is just never gone. Also the comment from him, as you said originally, that ruby ring is just blinding me. That comment is so icky.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I know. I really don't enjoy that, like, you're married with kids. Very cocky. This is literally just a fantasy, like, you are just having a fantasy. Do not go there. Mm-mm. It's bad. It's no go. It's bad, bad, bad vibes. Like, there's no part of me that's like,
Starting point is 00:24:31 ooh, this is exciting, go check it out. I think that what you should do is delete his number, remove this from... Remove... This will fade quite quickly. I think in like a month, you will like completely forget this even happened, genuinely. Oh my god, me too. So I think we need to like put quite a strict protocol in place.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Think of your children, think of your wonderful life, think of your gorgeous husband that you love. You've got to think of your children and like... And think of your gorgeous husband. I know. Like this is your partner in crime, like no, you're not. We've been with him for 19 years, you're so happy. And you're gonna divorce your husband to like see, give it another go with your 16 year old, like, sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:25:12 No. Absolutely not. This is like just 101, like you see it in the movies, like it's a fantasy. I get it. And sometimes your mind and your feelings and your, it's not even your gut, it's almost like an instinct of some sort is so strong and you almost can't stop yourself thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You're using it like, oh my god, my gut's telling me to do something. But it isn't. It's not. It's literally what Melissa said as well, like it will just be transporting you to when you were 16 and like think how... Yeah, it was new, exciting, your first relationship. Every stage of life is great, but like your first love as well is like a whole new thing because you've never loved before.
Starting point is 00:25:45 So you're always going to like maybe get back... It's kind of normal your butterflies, like he's probably the first person you slept with. Obviously no judgment either way. You really ultimately, this is like, you have to really think long and hard. And I think if you're still thinking about this in two months and you actually find yourself to be unhappy,
Starting point is 00:26:02 then let's address it again. But I feel like also we need to consider this maybe something that maybe is going on in your marriage and that's why you're feeling a certain type of way towards this person. I don't know. That also could be something to do with it. I think we need to deep dive. Yeah, because sometimes people are like, oh, well, what happened? They're like, oh, his head got turned or like her head got turned.
Starting point is 00:26:21 There's a reason for that. That could be... Because he wasn't into it. That's so horrible to think that a boy, you could be happy and like some girl could come in and Jamie's head get down. No, I can't bear it. We can't ever allow that to happen. They're not being on love island.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That's why. No, but like just in life. I know. Like that's where shit happens. You can't do anything. You can't do... I really pray that you make the decision that I think is so strongly the right decision and you ignore this guy.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Like, you've not known him since he was 16. He's not the same person. Like, you are a different person too. You stay with your faithful to your wonderful husband and be the most amazing mother. Please love. I love him too. I've been seeing this guy for a few months now. He's a couple of years older than me and has his own place.
Starting point is 00:27:04 He's really nice, very kind and funny, but he has a B.O. problem. Oh, God. I think I have really sensitive nose and I don't know if it's just me picking up on it or if he has some sort of a condition or he literally doesn't put the agent on. Sometimes boys B.O. I can like. Sorry. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:23 When Toby's like... Straight back from the gym? Not straight back from the gym. No, you're right. That stinks. like? Sorry. Do you know what I mean? When Toby's like... Straight back from the gym? Not straight back from the gym. No, you're right. That stinks. But if it's been a full day, let's say he's got a really early shower in the morning, and then it's been a full day by the evening, his natural scent... Like when they're on holiday.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I really love. Yes. And the sun sweat smell is different to gym sweat. That's nice. And you know what it is? It's pheromones. It's not sweat. B.O.'s very different to sweat though, by the way. Strong B.O. that's pongy is actually like bacteria. Yeah. And it's like, isn't that cute? Whenever I'm cuddling him, I feel repulsed because of how he smells. But I really enjoy the time I spend with him and all the dates we go on.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Sorry, I don't know how you can delight the both. You're loving the lovely apartment that he's got. I don't, you can't love both. You need to get in the shower and rinse those pits. If you are repulsed, you can't enjoy the time. Like, I would be like, you fucking sink. Oh, God. I think if it's just a case of poor hygiene,
Starting point is 00:28:17 I shouldn't have to be telling a 27-year-old man he needs to wear deodorant and wash his jacket. Jacket? Oh, no clothes that have BO on. His flat is very typical boy and I don't want to take the responsibility of cleaning up after someone. So please give me some advice on how I should handle the situation
Starting point is 00:28:31 because I just feel like it's quite an old conversation or do I just end it? I would say, oh god, you fucking stink. Like, I would actually say that. Even if I was just dating someone, it's worse for you like, you know what is bad? Baby, your armpits really smell. Like, you've got to be like, oh my god you fucking stink.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Surely going for the kill. How does he not smell it on himself? Like if I've got a bit of smell I'll smell my armpit and I can smell it. Right now yeah you can. I could smell it like I could go so how is he not smelling that? There were girls at my school like this and that you... It's fascinating people just don't smell their own B.O., which is a problem in itself. Right. This is how we tackle this one. You run a lovely shower for you both. And you are like, get in the shower and then you start foaming up his pits.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And then afterwards you go- This is a real turn on. And then you get the deodorant. You've got to get a strong one because he obviously sweated. He's got sweaty pits. He's got bacteria going on. You know what is a good one? It's the fussy one because it's got probiotics in it that like eliminate the stench. I think like his hairy armpits, so you're not going to want like a waxy one. I don't quite like it.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Okay, whatever the deodorant, you come out and you're like, pits, pits, and then you chuck it to him. Like it's just casual, it's like almost brushing your teeth. And then he's going to say, oh no, I don't use deodorant, don't like it, it's toxic. And you're going to go, we have an issue. And that's how you broach a conversation. Because otherwise... But I'm picturing that. He's very, like, natural.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Some people put deodorant on and it breaks through the deodorant smell. I feel like this boy's got a classic case of the old halitosis. I thought that was bad breath. I think it's bad smell. No, halitosis isitosis. Oh, so that's bad breath? I think it's bad smell. No, halitosis is strife. Oh, it's strictly in the mouth. Okay, well, halitosis is a pit. Which is a whole other thing in itself.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah. I remember when I was at party once at school and someone put their arm around me and gave me a hug and they rubbed on my shoulder. And then I gave someone else a hug and they were like, oh, my lesser. And I was like, it's not me. I was like, smell my armpit.
Starting point is 00:30:26 They saw my armpit. Delicious. Top of the shoulder, stank of VO. And that motherfucker stayed on there all night long. I think you've got to tell him. You've got to know. Also, I will say he might be wearing really bad quality cotton. Because sometimes if I wear like really...
Starting point is 00:30:40 We need a full rebrand. We need some probiotics, some fussy deodorant, and some organic cotton t-shirts. And some like, sanics. Body wash. Yeah, we need some body wash. Dilemma three. My dilemma is a messy one, so strap in. It was a usual night of drinks with me and my best friend at our workplace, and one night after a few drinks I ended up necking on with a friend of my dad's... Dad's? After a few drinks I ended up necking on with a friend of my dad who also works there.
Starting point is 00:31:07 For reference, I'm in my 20s and he is 40. No. After the pub closed... It's not the end of the world. I was imagining something much worse than that. Your dad's me. But the age gap's not that bad. I was imagining like 62.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I was thinking maybe his dad's got like his younger friend. Yeah. After the pub closed, him and my friend and I went out to the town, but we forgot my ID so couldn't go out. The entire time in town from the taxi there and back, we were necking on. Eventually we got... We were necking on. Eventually we get back to the pub, my friend goes home and we're having a steamy make-out
Starting point is 00:31:40 session for about 40 minutes in the car park. He was saying a lot of spicy things and invited me back. God, it's like the forbidden fruit. That's quite icky. But thankfully I said no. I think it's quite sexy. Not the dad's mate. Like, I can't. I'm getting on board with this. Your dad's mate? I'm feeling frisky. Carry on.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Okay, after this night, we saw him at a late date and he said to my friend he wishes it was her he got with and I'm not his type. Oh God, I'm really sorry. I ended up having a go at him in front of people for it and now I'm worried it's getting back to my dad, who also works there, that this has all been going on. He would be so mad with me
Starting point is 00:32:16 and I don't want to know what he'd do to him. Oh, God. I seriously regret it all, but do you think I rip the plaster off and tell my dad or just wait for him to tell, for it to get to him naturally? I'm certain it will happen either way, so just need the advice of what to do. I would tell my dad. Would you? Well, I'm just thinking like if I don't get my word in, he's just going to hear like,
Starting point is 00:32:33 oh, Sophie was getting with... He'll probably hear it from someone else. Yeah, but I think that's what it was. If I say, look, dad, I was really drunk. Your friend got with me and then told everyone that I wasn't his type. At least I'm out the words. Yeah. Then my dad would be like, type, at least I'm out the words. Yeah. Then my dad would be like, right, disappointed in you but poor you. Be like the man.
Starting point is 00:32:51 This is sounding like it's going to end up in a punch up to me. I'm scared. Me too. Right, listen. I think that's the right thing to do. But you know what I would actually do if I was you? I would say, I would tell your dad, I would be like, look, it's not actually his fault. I was equally as into it as he was. It was wrong from both of us. I don't think I could say something like that to my dad.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That's not where... Yeah, but otherwise, like... The dad will literally beat this guy up, I feel like. Like, he deserves it. He will go for him. Do you not think he deserves it? He does. He took advantage of you. Violence is never the answer.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And he also then went around saying that you were on his side, which is just like Maggie and so me. That's just fucking rude. Like, fuck off, you 40-year-old pig. I'm meant to be like another daughter to you. Do you know what I mean? You're meant to be like a dad to me. No, it's all a bit much for me.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Like, I'm picturing all my dad's friends, and that is so inappropriate and disgusting. It was just never, ever. I mean, never. I would tell your mom, if your mom and dad are married and together, I would tell your mom and get your mom to tell your dad. And maybe if you have a sibling or something, maybe get them to sit with you and be like, look, fucked up.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I was kind of enjoying it to start. As in, it wasn't like I was against it. You don't want to make out that he was taking advantage of you, messily, or whatever like that. And I don't know if that was the scenario, but if it wasn't, you need to be honest and be like, look, it was consensual, and it was really wrong of me, and it was really wrong of him. But that was fine.
Starting point is 00:34:15 We really shouldn't have kissed, but we did, and that was fine. But then he went on to say that I wasn't his type, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and I don't want you to hear from someone else what I am also now, really upset the whole scenario. It's really hard to be diplomatic in these scenarios because, I wasn't his type and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I don't want you to hear it from someone else but I am also now really upset with the whole scenario. It's really hard to be diplomatic in these scenarios because you don't want your dad to ever find out this shit really. Your dad wants to think you're a virgin
Starting point is 00:34:32 till the end of time. Is there a way that he won't find out? Like isn't it a bit awkward for somebody to go and tell? It sounds like this is gonna be the talk of the town, this is gonna be small town vibes, I think he's gonna find out. No, like not in a bad way but I feel like it's gonna be like everyone goes to the pub
Starting point is 00:34:45 on a Friday night, everyone knows everyone. People chat, people gossip. Feel like your mum's going to find out first and then that's just really going to be upset. I would just go home, I'd cry, I'd say, look, this has happened. I made a mistake and I didn't mean it. And just hope for the best. At the end of the day, it's going to be awkward either way, isn't it? It's going to be awkward with this guy, it's gonna be awkward like... Fuck. Good luck. Keep us updated.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah, please keep us updated. You know what, I was up for this and I'm really sorry. I felt like that took a turn I wasn't expecting. I was never up for it. I was really up for you just going back and having a saucy night with a man that's 20 years older than you. I'm picturing like this big, bald fat dude and I'm not into it at all. He's only 40! Yeah, big, bald and fat. Sorry, he's only like four years older than your husband.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I know, but she's 20. It's not the 40, it's just like the fact that it's the dad's friend. I'm like picturing like... What do you mean? Who like loves a beer and I'm just like, I'm not into it at all. So I'm making it sexier in my mind, just because I'm in that mindset now. So it's giving me like Sydney Sweeney at the pub when she's like 21, 22, and then she's going for like, who's in their 40s? It's like fit dad vibes. Oh, I know. Troy, the guy who plays Troy. He's so bad.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Okay, the guy who plays Troy, there we go. So that's, and you know, like he's always sort of had a thing for his... Oh, no, I don't like any of the dance friends. Sorry, I don't know any of the dads, friends! Sorry, I don't know why I'm trying to make it a thing. I've watched too much Baby Girl and the whole daddy is... Yeah, you have. It's not okay on any level. Like, why is the dad's me?
Starting point is 00:36:12 She would have been 16 four years ago, and he would have been 36. No, no, it's not... Listen, it's not okay in any way, shape or form. I do get that. Oh, my God, he would have been 36. I know, it's icky from the start. It is icky. It's not good. Right, so I'm happy that we've tried. I know, it's icky from the start. It is icky. It's not good. Right, so no from us. I'm happy that we've tried and we've decided it's a bad idea because, you know, at least you've satisfied that curiosity.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You scratch it off the older dude and we aren't moving on with it. No, I agree. We don't think it's icky that you got with him, by the way. We just, I don't like the sound of him. Particularly after what you said to your mate. It's not good. Also, Also, very disrespectful to your dad. And that should be his priority. Like, it's being a bad friend. That's kind of code.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah. Please follow up with us. We're going to send you lots of love. It's going to be fine. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal at all. And we'll be laughed about in two years. Yeah. You'll be lolling over it. And hopefully in a few months, you'll be like, I can't remember when I did that.
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