Wednesdays - 88. Club Drama & Hen Do Mayhem: Debriefing Ibiza with Ruby Adler
Episode Date: May 27, 2025Hey Tinies!We’re back with the full rundown from the hen do... From our trip to Pikes (where we almost didn’t get in), to Sophie getting attention from the only guy around ...;- much to her annoyance. Plus, Melissa shares how she caught Toby out on a big night while she was away... all thanks to the Ring doorbell.Ruby also joins us with a Central Cee update, she’s also turning 30 next week, so we chat about how she’s feeling in these last few days of her twenties and where she’s at with life in general.This week’s dilemmas - one Tiny is struggling because her boyfriend’s decided to shave off all his body hair and it’s putting her off! The girls discuss their thoughts on hairy vs groomed....And another listener is constantly clashing with her partner and unsure how to handle it. We share what’s helped us when it comes to dealing with arguments in relationships.Got a dilemma, some personal advice for a fellow Tiny, or a follow-up to a previous one? Send us a voice note or message on Insta @wednesdayspodcast, or drop us an email at wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer: @gurlinaheer_Editor: Kat MilsomExec: @jemimarathboneVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa, are you a doctor?
I want to be, but I'm not.
I'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists.
We're not.
We're not experts at anything.
In fact, we just challenge all our shit.
We love giving you guys advice, but as we said-
We love giving you guys advice.
Do not take what we're saying as gospel.
If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help.
Hello. Hi Wednesday. Hi guys. Hi guys. Timmy's in the building. We've got Tim. You know what
I really love more than anything Tim? Like Tim is your name. You know what, that will
start up with you. Tiny Tim. I know, but-
That will start up with me.
And now like no one calls me Ruby, I'm just Tim.
Like even strangers that you meet.
Like, not so much strangers,
but I would say like more like the internet,
like people comment like that I don't know being like,
Tim looks great.
I'm not lying.
That's so sweet.
That is so nice.
It's just stuck.
It's a really endearing name.
And now it's become a term of endearment.
So anyone that's just like quite cute or sweet,
they're just Tim as well.
There are Tim.
There's so many tiny Tims.
And also tiny Tim, it all correlates back to the tinies.
Do you know what I mean?
Tiny Tim, it does.
You're the OG tiny, really.
That's why we're okay.
We're fresh off from ahead, Sophie and I.
So we need to tell Ruby everything about the
hand.
Tell me everything about the hand.
Is this tissue then that's in your hand?
That's from me crying earlier.
Oh, I was like, you know when like you keep a tissue up the arm.
And I got such a mum thing to do.
I was like, Patsy's always got a tissue up person.
Literally like this.
Do you tissue?
She's like, yeah, got one.
I know, don't you find it wild though that they'll give you theirs and I'm like, that
looks like it's been used 89 times or like any old man in a taxi will be like oh yeah here you go and I'm like that's crinkled up in your pocket and you've probably blown your nose on it.
I'm alright.
The hanky, the old fashioned hanky. My granddad always has a little hanky. Me too. Your dad. My dad. It's like a little like it looks like a napkin. Yeah. And I'm like and washes it and I'm like, no! So my granddad and they team in the pocket
and they have loads of chocolate.
No, it's too sweet guys.
Before my wedding, when I was sat in that bloody car
waiting for all the guests to arrive,
I was crying and doing all sorts of bits and bobs.
And I literally look at my dad,
he's got his little pocket hankie
and I'm like, dad, I'm gonna have to use it.
And I'm like, blew my nose on it, wiped my eyes.
I'm like, there you go.
He's like, right, that was part of my scene.
Thank you.
I'm like the little things that like poofs out the top pocket.
I was like, right, I'm gonna have to use them.
Oh my God, bless Patrick.
Bless Patrick.
You know what, what the bride wants, the bride gets.
Okay, Tim, should we just debrief quickly about the hen?
Can you tell me everything about the hen?
Because I felt like I was like,
I went to a hen last summer in Ibiza to tier as hen.
Of course you did.
We had the best time ever. So I was like seeing bits of what you were doing
and I was like, I did that.
So for people who don't know,
Bella is like one of my oldest friends.
She's getting married.
She's met Melissa through me
and they've become really good friends.
You know Bella too.
I'm Bella.
And she is getting married in Sotogrande in a month.
Yeah.
She's from Sotogrande.
And we went to Ibiza and it was just the best hen ever.
There was like 10 girls.
It was a really nice amount of people.
There was 11 of us.
There was 11.
The vibes were amazing.
It was like a really just a nice group of people,
like no drama, like everyone's just sweet,
like happy to be there.
And like also like I'll say the stamina was really good.
Like the girls were drinking from 9 a.m.
No one was like, passing out.
She's got half these girls, half that friendship group,
half the girls on this trip can party.
Yeah, because there's gotta be a few.
And I think that's just it.
And they held it together for us.
Absolutely.
They just know how to drink better than us Brits
who are like, whoa, it's just like a different vibe.
9 a.m.
Well, you know, it was like breakfast.
It was civilized, it was like champagne. Mimosa and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was that.
Gorgeous.
Then what happened?
So night one, Sophie gets there, helps set up with two other girls, then everyone else
arrives, I go to bed because I'm like, right, I've got to save myself for the next few days.
Everyone arrives, I can hear them all chatting, they all stay up till like two.
Wake up, breakfast, brunch, made all the eggs and the bacon and all the rest of it, everyone had a lovely moza.
Then we sit down and we start sunbathing.
Melissa arrives.
I arrived at like one or something, which was so nice.
Had a glass of champagne or rosé, I can't remember
what I had first.
And then we had this amazing big paella for lunch at 2.30.
Oh, the chef.
The guy making it was so sunny.
Was this in your villa?
Yeah, the villa, okay, right, let's describe the villa, guys.
It was unbelievable.
Because I didn't see much of that on Instagram.
Look, the clips I saw, little bits, looked amazing.
It was incredible.
No, it was incredible.
The view was amazing.
It was what?
It was like a huge villa.
I was like, wow, we really outdone ourselves.
We got outdone ourselves.
No, we really did.
I was almost like, wow, this is quite something, isn't it?
This is really setting the expectation for my hand.
I said to Melissa, we must do it in IB 13.
Just call me the itinerary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So anyway, then we chilled, we all got ready,
and we had like a chicken, we roasted some chickens,
we made some caprese salads, we sat, we drank,
we had fun, we played some games, and then we went to pie.
Oh, let's talk about the fun game,
because I feel like this is really important.
Tell me. Really good tip, and a really fun game, because I feel like this is really important. Tell me.
Really good tip and a really fun game.
I don't know who came up with it.
The pant game.
The pant game.
So we all had to get.
Can I just say before we played it,
I was like, this is the roguest game ever,
but it was actually so, so fun.
I thought it was such a good idea.
But like, so everyone had to buy Bella
and like a piece of underwear for Bella to wear,
but she had to guess who had given it to her.
So we had to try and make it relevant to ourselves
or a memory that we'd had with her or something.
So what did you buy her?
I bought her an organic pair of pants.
She got it straight away.
That's so on brand.
Which I'm wearing right now, that brand.
I know, organic is really good.
That's so clever.
Yeah.
And then what did you get, so?
So I got her some skims,
because I just always wear skims. And like what did you get? So, so I got her some skims because I just always wear skims and like we love, we love a waist trader. So I was like, she's going
to know that's from me. And I just went to Dubai with her and the only pants I wore were
like the seamless skims. So I was like, she's going to know. She was, she did guess that's
right. Did she get everyone's or was there a few people she didn't get? No, she didn't
get us all. Some were really creative though. Oh my God. Someone creative. We have to get
Tim. She would love these in general. We should all just get one and put tiny Tim on it. Oh my god, someone created, we have to get Tim, she would love these in
general. We should all just get one and put Tiny Tim on it. Oh yeah. Right, so it was
like this diamond band and they had like, you would have seen it on my Instagram, Mrs.
Medina. The chains. Yes. Someone had gone and got that made in a really sexy film. I
was like, that's fucking phenomenal. It was in lace and it was actually really gorgeous.
And then someone else- Ella, one of her oldest friends in Spain and I saw it and then the school crest on it Francesca my brain doesn't go that way
I was like I like skims to Victoria's Secret of Skims as far as it's going for me
like where can I find it anyway it was really really good so that was like the
fun the first game that we played before we then went out to Pikes.
Pikes, right, so we get to Pikes.
No, no, no, there's a huge drama.
There's a huge drama.
So firstly, the situation-
It wouldn't be a hen without a drama, I feel.
It's kind of gotta happen.
It always, there has to be like-
Someone's had a fight, someone's shy, someone's like,
what, missing, like something.
Someone's been crying all night and throwing up or something.
Yeah.
There's always something.
So basically, my one role as a part of Summer Bridesmaid
was to sort the guest list for pies.
We couldn't get a guest list.
It's become really weird.
Like you're not getting in unless you get a guest list now.
And even if you're on the guest list,
which you can get yourselves online, right?
Yeah.
You're not guaranteed entry.
And there's only two.
So we were like, Sophie was like,
we can't not guarantee entry on a hen
that you need to have a solid plan.
So that was Sophie's job. So off were like, Sophie was like, we can't not guarantee entry on a hen that you need to have a solid plan. So that was Sophie's job.
So off I go, Jamie, your task.
My brain goes, you do radio with Vicko.
She carbon hara slips in Ibiza.
We're gonna have to get an in somewhere.
So he goes off on his merry way.
I'm like, you have it.
It's been months on me being like, have you got the in?
Have you got us in?
Anyway, he's like, I've got you in.
This is the guest's name.
This is who you need to call.
Da, da, da, da, da. Right All right. I'm starting to get a bit nervous.
Everyone's like, are you sure? Like it's all sorted. The pressure's on.
So you'd be second guessing. By the way.
You start to think you're like, well, maybe it's not. Especially because it's not through
you, it's through Jamie. And then I. Tim also, it's half an hour from the bit. You know how
to edit the distance. It's so far from everywhere.
So I'm like, right, we get in this guestless queue,
which is long in itself.
Everyone at the beginning is kind of like-
The guestless queue is massive.
It took two minutes though.
It's snakes.
You get there at like one in the morning or something,
don't you?
We went in two different cabs
and they had gone 15 minutes before us.
Oh my God, you're right.
And they had gone to the back of the queue
and gone halfway through.
So we arrived and go straight to the front, thank God.
But already people are like,
we're not moving to the front, but I've been like,
no, no, we have to just go in the queue and keep quiet
because I'm about to shit myself
that this is not gonna happen.
I would be the same.
We get to the thing and everyone's like,
Sophie, go to the front.
Sophie, you deal with it.
I get there and I'm like, hi.
She goes, can I have your QR code?
I go, oh fuck.
What QR code?
I'm like, I just go, I don't have a QR code,
but we're on, I say the guys, guest list, I'm like, we're on this I don't have a QR code, but we're on, I say the guys guest list,
I like we're on this guest list, my name's Sophie Boo,
like all these guys have been on it.
She goes, there's not any of you on there
and not even you.
And I go.
And not even you.
And I go.
Was really quite stressful.
Right, I get on the phone to Jamie,
who is on Charles' stag, the Greensman.
Oh God.
It was chaos. Off his face. That was' stag, the Greensman. Oh God. Absolutely off his face.
That must be his stag.
Seville.
Oh my God.
And Tim, I'm going, cool, cool, cool.
And Jamie's going, call the number,
like the guys get out and it rings out.
And I go, it's a dead number.
It's all a fraud, like this can't be me.
Anyway, I'm like, you've lied, someone's having us on.
Like, I'm so embarrassed.
Like we're, the hand is ruined, the night out's done.
By the way, it's 1 a.m. at this point.
We got there so late.
Because people do this in Europe.
People eat at midnight,
and then they're clubbing at one in the morning.
I'm like, that's-
We ate at 10 p.m.
We had to, to space it, to get there for one.
I was like, otherwise I'm gonna be snoozing.
All right, anyway, out of Loam Hole,
this lady just hit, she's like-
Over here, Sophie on the phone to Jamie.
She's like, are you on, say the name. The on the phone to Jamie. She's like, are you on?
The guy's name's John.
He's like, did you say John?
I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to call John,
but he's all fucking ticking up.
He said, I'll go to the den now.
Jamie goes on the phone and goes,
I don't even fucking know John.
So then this woman's like, right, well you don't know John.
And then she disappears.
Oh my God.
And you've got all the girls behind you.
Sophie is honestly, Sophie's about to divorce Jamie on the phone. She's so
pissed off. I was like, why would you say that? You're one job. You don't know John to the woman
who thinks that we're on John's gas list. Like that's our way in and you've just shown what part.
Anyway, suddenly John comes out, sorry girls, my fault. Oh he's there, John's there. He comes
like, Arabella Smith, Ella Isler, Melissa
Tatum, oh come on forgot to put you on the list you're all in with me. I'm like thank
God. Oh my God thank God for John. John came about at the right time. Sophie's husband's
so happy at that moment. I kissed him, I hugged him, I went like this, I love you so much,
he was like get the fuck off. I kissed too... So at this point it's like...
It's so fucking stressful.
It's the moment.
You're walking through pikes.
And you know it so far.
It's chaos in there though, isn't it?
Right, I'm gonna set the scene.
Was someone performing?
Was there a DJ?
No. We wouldn't know, would we?
There was!
We didn't know who that fucking DJ was.
I didn't know like this.
Woo!
Thinking I'm back at Newcastle in a rave.
I was like, what's going on? All of us in heels. I'm in there like this, thinking I'm back at Newcastle in a rave. I was like, what's
going on? All of us in heels. I'm in my, it's not the vibe for heels is it? Everyone's in
like Air Force 1's.
I know.
I think we were all quite dressed up in there.
Were they?
No, they were. I think we were the right home. I think we were perfect.
We weren't in dresses and heels.
No, no.
And mine were like little sandal heels.
Cute.
They were like a mini heel, yeah.
A meal.
We walked through that first area,
and then, which is like actually really good music,
like, give me, give me, give me, give me.
All that like sing-a-long shit.
And then we went up into these rooms,
which was more like rave style.
Like it was all like low ceiling, like dark,
like very small, very claustrophobic, sweaty.
And then we like walked back through that way.
Guys, I don't know if you're okay with me saying this,
it was like a swarm of fans over Sophie.
Like-
This is all I got in the cab on the way here,
by the way, from Melissa.
She was like, Sophie's a pop star.
I love how she calls it a pop star.
I'm like, where's that word come from?
She was like, pop star, people crying, tears.
People were crying.
They were like, Sophie, I can't believe it's you
and then Melissa goes and she goes
Sophie goes thank you
thank you thank you
and then I'm like what is she saying?
I went deaf
thank you
she literally was
I go thank you it's like what do you say?
They were all like crying over her
It was like the hands like
Honestly wild
I was like this is fucking crazy
So then we walked
Anyway
That just basically happened all night long
Every time we walked through that fucking room
People died. There was one area
It was hell and we were like we can't go back in there because so many people get caught. You know what it was?
Because I was wearing heels I felt like I was quite tall. You were very easily seen. Head was
really poking above the crowd. I was like I need to not because I'm a tall girl. So good thank you.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Anyway so that, I think we called it a night about,
quite early, like 2.30 in the morning.
Went back home, went to sleep.
Sophie went for about five weeks in the night,
as she normally does.
Jesus Christ.
Just constantly.
Just constantly.
Then, oh my God, it's also-
We go to Shangrim.
Yeah.
Shangrim.
And then, we woke up really early in the morning.
I feel like you often do that when you're away,
like on holiday, like the sun's like poking through and I'm like...
No, no, no, no. These rooms were blacked out.
Could you see a thing? It was like a time warp.
You're not realising you woke up because I got on a call with Jamie.
I called Jamie and poor little Melissa was like, hello?
What's going on?
Sophie's like, tell me everything. How's it going over there?
Like trying to get a debrief out of Jamie and I'm like, fucking hell.
Right, so I just wake up then. And then we opened the doors, let the fresh air in and it was so sunny and I was like, actually me everything, how's it going over there? Like trying to get a debrief out of Jamie and I'm like, fucking hell, right, so I'm like, so I'll just wake up then.
And then we opened the doors, let the fresh air in
and it was so sunny and I was like, actually I'm fine.
You need to talk the fucking over.
Didn't you manage to come over?
About the ring.
The ring doorbell, you're not, surely you must have.
Oh my God.
You're gonna die in this, Taya.
We love our ring doorbells.
So then, Toby's like,
hasn't messaged me first thing in the morning
and Norman, he's like, morning, how are you,
did you sleep, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, hmm, went to bed quite late last night, didn't messaged me first thing in the morning. And Norman, he's like, morning, how did you sleep?
And I was like, hmm, went to bed quite late last night.
Didn't he?
So then, like, look on like the last scene I could see.
So then I'm like, right, I'm gonna go on Ring Doorbell,
see when he got home.
Cause I knew he was out, he was like sending me photos
of everyone he was with and he like bumped into Yaz
and was like, me and Yaz were chatting.
Anyway, so then I'm like, right, I'm gonna go
on the Ring Doorbell and just see when he got last put in.
And it's like, the first one at the end if anyone has a ring doorbell like the
last chunk of footage was right there because he'd taken the battery out.
So it was like all I can see is the last footage of him approaching the ring doorbell with
like three other people trying to take the battery out.
Like obviously looks absolutely like.
And it's like 1 a.m.
And he's like taking the battery out
and then they all pile into the house,
but the battery's out so then it all goes dead.
And I was like, hmm,
that means there's obviously more people coming.
And he didn't want me to see
that there was loads of people
gonna be going into the house.
Can I just say-
We've been living together like three months.
So wait, okay, when you then ask him about this.
No, but Tim, she's so fucking cool.
Oh no, I just-
She at one point was like, I'm not gonna say anything, I went, oh my God. So he was like, no, I'd be fuming. And I was this? No, but Tim, she's so fucking cool. Oh no, I just- She at one point was like,
I'm not gonna say anything, I went,
oh my God.
So he was like, no, I'd be fuming,
and I was like, yeah, but-
I kinda rate it.
What can I be fuming at?
He doesn't rate anything wrong.
I wasn't like, you could-
I'd be fuming so that I wouldn't-
I just want to know, I'd be more nosy.
It's just quite funny.
I would just be like, I would have to bring it up
so that he would be forced to tell me the truth.
And I wouldn't be fuming, I'd be fuming inside,
but I'd just act chill,
but I would need to know who was back,
and what they did, and what time he went to work.
I just screen recorded it, sent it to him, recorded it. Sent him went busted. Ring doorbell. I was like, you're so stupid,
but also like quite smart because I can see that you've taken the battery out. So like
it's visual. I saw you do it very well for our anyway. He was like, well, yeah, there
was another Uber people coming after us for people, but I knew they were going to ring
the doorbell,
which then would have alarmed your phone,
because it goes, da-da-da-da,
and he was like, I didn't wanna disturb you.
To be fair, that is quite fair play.
And I was like, oh, and also guys,
he's not quick enough to lie on the spot like that,
and it'd be genuine, so I know that was true.
So that's probably what was going through his brain.
As in like, he's not a liar.
You know what it is?
It's also being like, yeah, I got home at one,
and it's like, got home at four.
Yeah. Oh my God, that's normally me. Yeah, I know. Yeah yeah I got home at one and it's like got home at four. Oh my god that's normally me. Yeah I know. Yeah I was home at one.
I wasn't that mad I was home at one. No it's so funny. Last seen online like 5am.
5am that's like wasn't a big one. Guys you don't understand that. I don't actually have
find my friends but my friends all have Jamie on find my friends. I used to have him. Oh my god
that's so funny. Did you delete it? I've never had a boyfriend on Find My Friends.
But like you have both your partners. I don't have Find My Friends. Oh you're sorry you don't have Find My Friends. I don't, I got logged out of it and I need to like send it all off. It's a good
safety feature I'll actually say. I agree, I do love them. But then I'm worried that if I had a
boyfriend on Find My Friends I would then just stare at them all day where they are there. I'd be
like what's he doing? And then I think I'd overthink things because I'd be like why are, there, I'd be like, what are you doing? And then I think I'd overthink things, because I'd be like, why are you there
and you've not told me?
And I think I would stress over it,
more so than it being valuable.
I agree, I think that unless you-
But maybe in time, if it's been a couple of years
and you're really settled and whatever, then fine,
but I think early days I'd be like, why are you there?
Who are you with?
Toby made me add him, he was like,
let's add each other and find my friends,
three months into our stay together.
That's really sweet, that's sweet that he initiated that.
God, I would have just desperately invite my friends.
Couldn't wait.
Really?
I know how funny and I was like, so unboyish.
You are such a find my friends girl.
I have all of my friends.
I used to have it.
I've got like 12 people.
It's so useful.
I didn't like it.
I found people like, I found it really weird
that people would be like, what are you doing now?
And I was like, what the hell?
Did people actually say that though?
Cause I've never said that. No, you've never said that one. We used to have it, but I used to have it. No, you didn't. But I did have certain people be like, what are you doing there? And I was like, what the hell? Did people actually say that though? Cause I've never said that.
No, you've never said that one.
We used to have it, but I used to have it.
No, you didn't, but I did have certain people be like,
how was last night?
I was like, how did you know I went out?
And I just didn't like it.
I was like, this is too much.
And then the thing is, is once you've got someone,
you can't delete them.
Well, you can see my location.
Yeah, I can forget I have it.
It just really can see your location,
but she can't see mine.
I'm like, this is such a one-sided friendship. I know.
I'm happy to have it back.
I turned it off, mine, but I can see everyone else's.
I saved my life.
And then it logged me out and I was like,
oh, Baba, I really enjoyed that.
Right, let's just round up the hand towel team.
Anyway, then next day.
We wake up, breakfast, lovely, get on the boat,
we go to Formentera.
Formentera is so fucking amazing.
It's so fucking cold and windy on this boat.
We're like this.
As in like Goosebumps, Hedge Toe,
we were all absolutely frozen.
I guess it's quite early in the season, isn't it?
Like when we did Ibiza for Tears,
and we went in August, so it was like, it was boiling.
We go to the Spasso beach,
and it is the best vibes that we've obviously been.
Everyone's there just dancing away so drunk.
Bella is like, there were two girls.
Ella's a babe, like everyone fancies her around
and then Bella, obviously the bride, the men were flocking over her. There was one guy in particular
that was just like in love with her, do you remember? And I went, she's getting married.
And then he was like, I know, I don't care. I was like, well, I do actually. And then he went on to
sell us another blonde girl, so he was like, not in love with Bella anymore. Cause he was like doing the exact same thing to another girl,, not another Bella anymore, because he was
doing the exact same thing to another girl.
We were like, at least stick to your guns.
Someone said something to you and you were like, married.
Oh my God, no, don't say someone.
Let's just rewind, Tim, you don't know who, the only person who came to me.
Can I just say the oldest fucking ugliest man in the whole club?
I'm going to just fucking say it because he was so creepy.
I can't say, I'm married and he was like, I don't, he was honestly that obsessive.
I was like, I'm so offended that you are the only person this time that tipped on me.
Also that you are, I think you're going to be able to get me.
He was like kissing my hand, bending over.
I was like, you're litchy, 70.
He was actually quite a rep.
Right, Tim, Tim would have done you proud.
She was Tim on the best Tims. No,
when she gets on fire is like on fire. And the rich movement. And I'm like, how does
the body move so quickly? It's just like, I was like Rick is a new soap reply game Rick's
on fire. The dancing was out of control. I look back at these videos and I'm like, no.
So fun though.
No, you were the best form I've ever seen.
Anyway, so that night was over.
And then what did you do that night?
The boat ride on the way home, it was like.
10, 10 fun.
So fun.
And then that night, I just went to bed
as soon as you got home, because I felt really sick.
I was really drunk.
There was a lot of like, cocoa pops, pizza, weird games,
putting toilet paper everywhere.
Like it was just weird. Bella was dressed in a wedding dress, the toilet paper actually looked amazing. You've got a lot of like, really Coco Pops, pizza, weird games, putting toilet paper everywhere. Like it was just weird.
Bella was dressed in a wedding dress,
the toilet paper actually looked amazing.
You've got a photo of it.
It looks really good.
I was like, what the fuck?
And then I went to sleep.
Me too.
And then we woke up at 5 a.m.,
absolutely shivering to death
because the aircon was on so cold in our room.
And I was like, awake, so I was so cold.
And I was like, Sophie, I could just feel her stirring,
so I could feel her moving,
and Sophie doesn't really move much in her sleep,
and I was like, she's like, are you freezing?
She's like, yeah, I'm freezing.
You were obviously wide awake as well.
So, you know when you're too cold,
you're like, I can't even get out of the bed
to put on a jumper.
It was horrible.
I thought I would die if I were to take that tiny sheet off.
And so we had this tiny sheet and then a blanket,
and Sophie was cocooned up in the blanket, and I just had the sheet, and I was like, I can't bear to take that tiny sheet off me. And so we had this tiny sheet and then a blanket. Sophie was cocooned up in the blanket
and I just had the sheet and I was like,
I can't bear to take it off her
because I knew she would be so good.
So then we went and turned the aircon off.
And then she was actually really warm in the morning.
Yeah, and then it was fine.
I was like, hold on.
Right, that's a whole lot.
And then we get to the airport to fly home.
No, you're gonna be sick.
Need the loo straight away.
So we go straight into the bathroom
and we can just hear this.
Oh, that just sums up Ibiza Airport. It was, I know it was like. We need the loo straight away. So we go straight into the bathroom and we can just hear this,
ah!
That just sums up Ibiza airport.
It was, I know it was like-
No, it was two girls and they were going,
ah, ah!
Ah!
That's no exaggeration.
And I-
We would look at each other and I was like-
Wretching.
No, no, vomit.
I could hear the whole vomit coming up.
It was the worst thing I've ever heard.
It was so aggressive.
I completely want to be sick of hearing that. I'd be like, I'm gonna be sick. Same as that, I can't reach the loo and how I need to coming up. It was the worst thing I've ever heard. It was so aggressive. I completely want to be sick of hearing that.
I'd be like, I'm going to be sick.
I can't reach the lone hound anymore.
No.
It was horrible.
It was horrible, horrible, horrible.
And then we got some lovely, lovely, like, ham on a barricade sandwiches.
Oh my god, delicious.
That's not the best.
The baguette with the Ibaracade ham.
That's what you need on a barricade on a hound over two.
God, it was delicious.
And then it was all over.
It all happened so quickly, isn't it?
It happened so quickly.
Right.
Tim, what's been going on with you?
Life's good. on the way home. And then it was all over. It all happened so quickly, isn't it? It happened so quickly.
Right.
10 more, it's been going on really.
Life's good.
Oh, you didn't mean it.
Oh!
Life's really good, actually.
I'm hoping that when I'm next to do this podcast,
I can talk more.
And hopefully we have, maybe we'll have a full on
sort of boyfriend situation potentially.
So you're going.
I'm really good, yeah.
I've got some really fun plans this summer.
Ruby repasting all the Central Seas things on TikTok.
I don't know, it's a beautiful, beautiful man.
Some people get it, some people don't.
How was Central Seas for contact?
How was the contact?
How was the contact?
Ah!
He did so well.
Did you go to after party?
Yeah, yeah, met him.
Shut the fuck up.
What the fuck?
Yeah, yeah. Sorry, how are we fuck, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, how are we not covered this?
We had such a good night, he invited me.
We were all meant to go, girls.
I know, sorry.
Such losers.
And we had so much fun, it was, no.
How was he, was he like, where were you?
He was so, he's so nice.
Oh, that actually hurts my heart.
Such a nice guy.
I love it that he loves punch users.
I took my friend Isabella and we were like,
singing to all the songs, he brought Dave out, little baby.
Tim Tim Tim, the art party. So when you met him I need to know like was he like
Ruby nice to meet you. Yeah. He gave you a hug was he like can I get you a drink, you guys comfortable?
I wouldn't say, we wouldn't go that far. How was it? I need to know. But he like we used to we were like chatting and
we all like there was so many people there.
How many people were out there?
Oh my god, like...
Where was it?
It was in the O2 and then it was at a club in Mayfair.
He had the downstairs family and friends, like, Roman the O2 Nando's, was sponsoring it.
It was actually really fun.
And then we went on to a club. I say we, there was loads of us.
How long did you say out there?
So fun. I was actually only out to like, there was like loads of us. How long did you stay out?
I was actually only out to like, it was like two maybe.
I cannot believe we've missed this piece of information.
This is honestly, this is the big part.
It's just gorgeous.
He's just the one that got away, isn't he?
She's in love.
No, she's not in love with anyone.
Oh, good old sense.
Look at him, he's so good. Good old sense. He's so good. No, He's great, he's so nice, he's a lovely man.
You know what?
That makes me feel so much better about the fact that he's like, you're so obsessed with him, that he's actually a nice guy.
Do you know what? Like, he's just so, like...
You know what? I know it sounds weird, you'd never think a pop star would be so like, yeah, come to my archiparty, like, just so sweet.
I can't win Melissa's call. Is it right that she calls these people pop stars? Like, is it right that she calls these people pop stars? You know what, I know it sounds weird, you'd never think a pop star would be so like, yeah, come to my archiparty, like, just so sweet.
I can't when Melissa calls, is it right that she calls these people pop stars?
Sorry, that's probably not their official name.
Isn't that like Hannah Montana vibes? She calls them all a pop star.
Louis Walsh's X-Factor days, isn't it?
Louis Walsh is not a pop star.
Louis Walsh is.
That's what he would say, like, oh, you're a great pop, you're a good pop, you're a great pop star.
And I know, Melissa, where is this old saying came from?
Yeah, it's so good.
You're a pop star. You're a pop star.
It was like us leaving the O2 and he goes to me, my friend, he goes,
I've accounted for you two in the cabs. And I was like,
you know what, it's really nice when you hear a celeb being so nice,
because sometimes you think that's a better way to put it,
because sometimes you think they're not going to be that nice in real life.
But he obviously was such a babe.
Sorry. He's just so normal.
So whose cab did you get him?
His. Was he in the cab with you?
No, he wasn't.
I just thought I'd make the story more exciting.
We got there was like.
It was so good.
We went with his friends.
There was like all these big cars going to the after party and we went.
We went. He wasn't in that car.
Sench, I know you listened to this podcast. No, but he-
Oh my God, sorry, I need to tell you something.
So I'm in Notting Hill Fish Shop.
He does not walk in?
No, some guy comes in and he's like,
"'Well done, Jamie on the run."
And he's like, I've started listening to your podcast.
I fucking love it.
And he's like, yeah, I'm in White City House and like Central's I was like Central, Sentsch
they were in The Sawn together he's like what's your favorite podcast he's like Newlyweds
I was like must have Ruby. Did you see that escape is a minute that was like literally how I described
you to Ruby. I was like I don't have to tell Ruby. Don't tell me he loves Wednesdays too.
I don't well he's not said that but. He probably doesn't listen to Wednesdays, let's be honest.
This isn't exactly like, Ascension's Prime.
Well, I wouldn't have thought Looney Weds was, but there you go.
That's so funny that he said it's his favourite.
He didn't tell me he likes it.
She got in his taxi.
Well, I got in his friend's taxi.
I think that's really nice to know that he was so sweet. He was just so great. He's
worth all the airtime. I wish you were coming. You're not here on my 30th birthday. I can't
bear it. I'm at a wedding. I'm so excited. Guys, we're gonna have such guys. I'm 30
next week. Right, you're 13. We've started, we've kickstarted the celebrations. Where?
Paris. Paris. Paris. How was Paris? Two of my girlfriends,
like slightly newer friends who I met
like only over the last year or so,
took me to Paris for a night for my birthday.
And I was like, oh my God, how lovely.
They were like, we didn't know what to get you.
You don't need or want anything.
I was like, hmm.
I do too.
Thank you, girl.
And I was like, they were like, we want to take you out.
I was like, that is so generous, so kind.
Like we had, we just went for a night.
It was the best time ever.
And they are two of the nicest people.
So sweet.
So fun.
And what did you do?
We went to Gigi's where we went to,
where we had lunch on your hen.
And then we went for dinner.
We were like day drinking and it was so fun.
And we were so lucky with the weather.
And then we went out for dinner
when you had all these grand plans to like go for drinks and go out. And it got to like half fun and we were so lucky with the weather and then we went out for dinner and we had all these grand plans to like go for drinks and go out
and it got to like half ten and we were like all looking at each other and I was
like I'm exhausted. Then we were like we have to tell everyone that we went wild
and they were like when we do our day in the life in Paris we're gonna tell everyone that we're like we had the craziest time we lost one another
Georgia's still at the top of the Eiffel Tower. Oh my God.
We were all in bed by 11, but it was really fun.
This is 30.
This is what 30 is.
We all had a cup of tea in bed at 11 p.m.
It was stunning.
Oh my God, I'm upset.
We stayed in a really cute, really lovely hotel.
What was it called?
It was called the Maison Pigalle.
We were in the Pigalle area.
Stunning.
And it was just so fun.
It was so gorgeous.
And then it's my actual birthday next week.
And then we're doing a girl's dinner on the Friday.
Well, I'm having a dinner with my closest friends.
Which I can't go to, which is so sad.
How many for lunch?
I know, I can't wait.
To my literal favorite restaurant.
I haven't been there in ages.
Oh my God, I can't wait.
I know, so excited.
That is so lovely.
Do you know what?
I'm ready. I feel like, you know, the lead up to it, I can't wait. I know, so excited. 30 is so lovely. Do you know what? I'm ready.
I'm ready.
I feel like, you know, the lead up to it, I felt, I was flip-flopping with my thoughts
and I was like, I kind of thought I would be in a different space at 30.
And I thought I'd be, you know, slightly more further on.
You can pay yourself to all your friends, don't you, naturally, or just people around
you or online.
And I thought, do you think when you're younger that you're just gonna be married with kids at 30?
And it's just like, things are different now
and I'm not and it's fine.
But I feel like I'm in the best place mentally
that I've been in a long time
and I actually just feel excited.
I feel excited to turn 30.
I feel like you know what you want a bit more.
You've learned your lessons in your 20s,
gone through so many experiences
and I'm ready, I'm excited.
I've got great people around me
and I can't wait.
There's lots of changes as well.
Yeah, lots of career changes, personal changes,
they're all good changes.
Out with the old, it's in with the new.
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's a nice opportunity to turn,
not a new leaf, but be like, right,
this is a new chapter in my life
and you make sort of like, it really is.
I knew that approaching 30, I didn't wanna be in certain situations and you make sort of like, it really is. I knew that approaching 30, like I didn't wanna be
in certain situations and in certain positions.
And I was like, I had this almost like mental goal
to be not pressure, but I was like,
I know where I want to be in the next couple of years.
I know what I want from life.
And like, I need to work towards getting there
and like staying in the same lane.
Nothing's gonna change.
Make that happen for yourself.
Yeah, make it happen for yourself.
And it's up to me, like I'm living my life.
I'm the only one that can make those decisions.
People can tell you all day long their thoughts
and opinions, but I have to make that decision for me.
So exciting.
So exciting.
I really rambled on.
No, you really also feel like you can be like,
whatever happened is in the past.
Like there is something about hitting 30
that's really liberating.
You're like, I'm telling you, you also feel really young.
It's so weird.
When I was 29, I felt so old.
And then when I was 30, I felt so young.
Cause 29, you're the oldest of when you're in the 20s.
And you're like, I'm just,
I'm like on the edge of this like 20s,
but I feel too old to be going out with like
the 21 year olds.
I'm just like the old one in the 20. 30 you hit and you're like around the 35 year old. but I feel too old to be going out with the 21 year olds. I'm just the old one in the 20s.
30 you hit and you're around the 35 year olds,
so I feel fucking young.
Yeah.
You know what I love when you're around older people
and they go, oh, you're such a baby,
and I'm like, stop.
You keep telling me.
I don't get that anymore.
I don't think at 30 you get that.
I think 30 also just sounds wrong.
I don't need that anymore.
And 30.
Yeah.
29's a bit like.
You know what's also quite nice?
You can always give me like,
oh yeah, that's when I was in my 20s.
And you can like blame your like silly past
on being in your 20s.
It's like quite good.
Yeah.
Blame everything.
I was like 25, like god.
I was like, I'm a 29.
Yeah, but you did 29.
I was like, I was literally 22.
Yeah, you can literally just exaggerate it
just a little bit, pull it back.
So good.
Right, moving on to side ammas.
Dilemma one, hey girls, okay, so I've got a dilemma.
Not a massive one, but it's been living rent free
in my head and I need to evict it.
It's about my new boyfriend's chest.
Oh god, of course.
Or rather the fact that he shaves it,
yep, shaves it, and I cannot lie, it gives me the ick.
I feel like this is quite common.
Don't men shave their chests quite a lot?
Yeah. Here's the thing their chests quite a lot? Yeah.
Here's the thing, he's a hairy guy,
like hairy, hairy, head, legs, balls, he named it.
It's got coverage, and weirdly, I'm into it.
It's got coverage.
I'm guessing you can't see skin.
Right, oh my God.
Like it's just hair.
She's into it, okay, right.
There's something quite caveman-core about it,
and I find it weirdly hot.
It's giving primal
I'm obsessed with the description
She's written this really well
But then suddenly dot-dot-dot the chest is smooth not in a sexy oiled-up way in a freshly
Mown lawn way the regrowth is spiky the outline is bizarre and the worst of all
The little shaved hairs are everywhere like tiny reminders that he's at war
with his own torso sorry the way she's written she's fucking hilarious you should write a book
and now i'm spiraling why is he doing this is it for me is it a phase is it a cry for help
i don't want to shame him but i'm also i'm mourning the chest fluff. So what do I do? Sorry, I think this is really
deep.
She's a poet. She's a poet.
This is fucking unbelievable.
The words war, caveman.
The chest is smooth.
It's also the way she's written it.
Not rather.
Oh, in a sexy, all that way, in a freshly mowed lawn, really.
Oh my God.
No, I'm not sure about, I'm not sure.
Listen, I don't know. I, no, I get the stubble.
Have I dated shaved ass or am I with the shaved?
I think I've kind of all the guys I've ever been with in my life have like shaved the chest and it's growing back a bit.
Shaved or trimmed?
I don't like a big curly chest.
No, I don't want a big curly chest.
I don't care about that stubble coming out. Don't give me that big curly chest. Thank you very much.
Shaved or trimmed? There's a difference. Do you know what I mean?
I don't know. Shaved, trimmed.
Like when Toby will trim the lower area of his body, they don't shave it.
Can you shave it?
And they just get the trimmer and sort of tidy up a bit.
I would say I'd lay on Jamie's chest and I'd be like, oh, spiky, spiky.
Yeah, that's not fun.
I don't think I've ever dated to me.
That's like my dad.
I'm really used to hairy person.
Yeah, me too.
But that's like dad.
Yeah, yeah, dad.
Curly long hair.
That happens when you get older and the testosterone is going in a certain direction and they get more hair
on their body.
And I can't imagine being with a man who's got
proper, proper long curly hairs.
I think it's nice to be groomed and maintained.
You do.
But then I don't like shaved and I don't like spike.
But you also can't- That's horrible stubble.
No, you don't want that.
If he wants to shave it.
It's like him being like,
I want you to shave your vagina and you're like, I don't want to
It's his head. Do you know what I mean? It's like a bit of a weird
But you can tell him because I love the hairy chest
Yeah, if you
Know how hairy we're talking because like I get a bit of coverage
I don't like hair when it goes onto the shoulder. You know when it's that? Yeah.
That for me is like, I'm sorry,
we've got to do something about that.
No, that's not right.
You know where that is.
No, I know exactly.
And you know it's like up here
and they've shaved it and it's stubbly
and you're like, why the fuck is that happening?
And your shoulder, shoulder hair.
And then the back hair's right.
Why the back hair's right.
Some people let it grow out.
I don't want that.
I've never been with anyone very hairy.
Yeah, I dated someone that was
Iranian and they weren't that hairy. But you'd sometimes think that maybe like you would
assume because they've got dark hair. You know what's really funny? One of Toby's best
friends, white blonde hair, the fairest I've ever seen. Body so hairy. It's not dark, but
it's like it is like a lighter brown I think, but he's so hairy you would never ever ever assume.
I've never been with anyone particularly hairy.
No, neither, I haven't.
Nor me.
It's funny, isn't it?
Hmm.
Well, we've obviously got tight girls, right?
Well, you could just really fancy someone
like Casper from the face, and then he takes a close look.
If you love someone and you fancy them,
you don't really think about those things.
You wouldn't notice it.
No.
Who was that James Bond that was really hairy?
One of the older ones.
Oh my god, yes.
I know.
Gorgeous.
Really gorgeous.
Like one of these.
No.
The one earlier than that.
With the dark, like that sort of...
Yes.
What was his name?
Great tan.
Sean Connery.
Very hairy man, but I was okay with it.
I fancied him.
I fancied him.
There you go. So that's, it. I fancied it. There you go.
So that's, it's quite manly.
We need to watch Mobland with Pierce Brosnan.
It's so good.
Oh my God, Hermione keeps telling me to watch Mobland.
It's the best thing I've ever watched Tom Hardy.
I'm on like episode two.
I've literally just started it.
It's phenomenal.
I'm so jealous she's got all of it.
I've got all of it to come.
Tom Hardy and Menable.
Tom Hardy I genuinely say would be one of my dream men
by essentially. You know what the funny thing is. What I genuinely say would be one of my dream men by essentially.
You know what the funny thing is.
What polar opposites.
Right down to number two.
Hey girls, I need a reality check.
I've been seeing my boyfriend for four months now.
It's been great, especially since we've known each other since high school and we were friends
before this.
We both came out of long-term relationships last September so there's some emotional backstory,
but here's the issue.
Every time I'm in his room at his parents' house,
I keep spotting his ex's stuff,
hairbrush, jewelry, sunglasses,
like little relics just lurking.
And honestly, it makes my stomach turn.
I know he probably doesn't even notice,
no, not me, even notice it's there, but I do,
and I can't keep pretending it doesn't bother me.
What the fuck?
I've already mentioned the hundreds of photos
of us still on his phone.
I said I'm cool with a few or old group mates, but it's giving digital shrine. He says he just
hasn't gotten around to deleting them, but four months. I don't want to come off as clingy or
crazy, but I also don't want to feel like I'm dating someone still living in the shadow of his
last relationship. Am I overreacting or do I have the right to say, hey, maybe it's time to clear
out the ex memorabilia?
Oh my God, yeah.
Sorry, has she said how long she's been with him for?
Four months.
That's quite a steady amount.
A bit early.
Sorry, sorry guys.
No, no, no.
When you break up with someone,
why are you keeping their hairbrush and their glasses
in your house ever anyway?
That's really weird.
I don't, the photos are different.
Yeah.
But like the products, like.
Wouldn't you just want to get rid and move on?
Like the first time you go back with your new girlfriend,
you'd be like, shit, I shit, gotta move this out the way.
Wouldn't he be conscious that makes me think that like,
maybe he's, is he taking it that seriously
if he got all his extra stuff?
That's what, that's where my mind goes, you know.
Because if you're like, I just think if you're so
really wanting it to make it work with someone,
you're so serious about them,
you're not gonna want to make them feel uncomfortable
and you would just declutter and get rid of everything.
Not that he doesn't like her books.
If you're done with your ex,
you then also just get rid of her.
He's hopeful.
You know what I mean?
And her toothbrush.
Yeah.
Like you're not keeping Harry Barron's toothbrush
the minute he moved out of your flat.
I still use Harry Barron's wallet.
Sorry.
The card holder that I use used to be his.
It's quite nice, like an old Louis Vuitton one.
It's like, why not?
That's different though.
That is different.
No, I agree.
Like, obviously you can get rid of it.
Like, I'm not throwing out old boyfriends' jewelry.
Boys are just really weird.
Like, men don't think the same as us.
They're not gonna think, oh,
he probably doesn't even notice that it's there.
You should probably be like,
I think it's time we get rid of this.
Oh my God, do you remember when I was dating Jamie
and he was selling his flat, right?
Ruby, you're gonna fucking die.
So he was selling his flat and above his bed
was like a blown up picture of his ex.
And then just like a printed like photo of that.
I think he must've just printed one out.
He's done it of me.
Obviously like really loves that trick.
That old trick, look what I did for you.
Anyway, it was like fucking huge buff about it.
I was a bit like, right, can we take that time?
Cause it's a bit weird.
Like we were just dating at this point.
Anyway, he then sort of set wanting to sell his house,
put it on the market.
Obviously that was like, you know,
the nail on the wall without a hanging painting.
And it looked better with the painting.
Come back around the fucking photos back up.
I was like this.
I remember you telling me at the time.
I don't know what to do.
Because he wanted to cover the hole in the wall.
Because he was trying to sell it and it looks nicer being on the wall rather than just like.
Yeah but you're still like see.
Matthew's laughing.
He's laughing long.
He's like yeah it looks nicer.
He's like yeah.
Now you get why it was there.
He wanted to sell it.
I don't like that Tim.
I really don't like that.
It would really bother me.
Sophie was like is this a sign?
Also the placement of it above the bed.
It's really quite weird.
It's shy.
That's giving physical shock. I don't like that Tim, I really don't like that. It would really bother me. No, Sophie was like, is this a sign?
Also the placement of it above the bed.
It's really quite weird.
That's giving physical shine.
Yeah.
And then you're going to bed with him,
I'd be like, not sure about that.
Ew, what did I do, do you remember?
You asked him about it and he was like,
the fucking guy put it up.
Oh yeah, he was like, they staged it.
They staged it.
I was like, I'm dead.
I was like, don't give a fuck, get it down.
I would not like that.
I'd be like, we need to throw it away. I'm just so jealous. Why are we still keeping on with that? I'm such a jealous person, I've decided. I don't give a fuck, get it down. I would not like that. I'd be like, we need to throw it away.
Why are we still keeping on?
I'm just so jealous.
I'm such a jealous person, I've decided.
I don't want like...
No.
Sometimes I am and sometimes I'm not.
It's really weird.
I wouldn't say I'm so jealous of like current, if like a girl's coming over or like I can
see Jamie looking like, that doesn't really bother me.
It's more like, I do think like exes are weird.
Exes don't bother me for some reason.
Don't know what, I don't know what that's about.
I think it's different when you're really happy
and you're settled and you're like in love
and it's been a while.
Like it's different to like those early stages
when you're just dating someone
and then there's like, you're still having the,
you're still like not quite sure where you are.
And then if I was to see something like that,
that early on, some people would probably let it go
and it wouldn't bother them.
And I just think within the first couple of months,
I know that that would really bother me.
I'd be like-
It would be like playing on my mind.
Yeah, it would.
I think what you should maybe do is wait till you're official.
I don't know if you are or not.
For once.
She's calling him her boyfriend.
Okay, right.
If it's your boyfriend, then I think you have every right
to be like, look, I think it's about time
we just get rid of all this shit.
Yeah, I agree.
There's no need to have glasses if you like them, keep them, but the hairbrush, get rid of that.
You're not gonna use them.
Yeah, I think just get rid of it.
It's got hair on it.
I'd be like, no.
Is there a toothbrush in there too?
What do we do about the photos?
Like the photos in the room.
No, the photos on the phone.
I just don't know.
I like honestly don't, I don't think you've got,
a boy is not looking back at his past photos.
No.
Reminiscing his ex.
It's like, I'm sure Jamie's got a million photos.
I'm sure we've all got a million.
I don't go and clear my phone.
Like that's just a bit weird in itself.
Yeah.
I think you're just gonna have to,
the more your time you're with him,
the more your photos will fill up his camera roll.
Exactly.
And no one's scrolling right to the top
of their photo album, are they?
No.
Good luck.
Don't let it bother you.
You'll be fine.
Dilemma three?
Yeah.
Hey girls, I've got a dilemma I need help with.
I've been with my boyfriend for three years and I honestly love him to bits.
He's my person.
But lately we've been arguing a lot and not over huge dramatic things, more like silly
little moments that somehow spiral.
The catch?
He hates conflict.
Like even a slightly tense vibe and he sees it as a massive red flag.
Meanwhile, I'm over here thinking I'm just expressing how I feel,
maybe a bit passionately, sure,
but in his eyes it's me starting yet another fight.
I'll admit I can be reactive,
something small would trigger me
and I'll go from zero to emotionally volcanic
in 2.5 seconds.
And later I often realize it maybe wasn't that deep,
but in the moment I just, I feel totally justified.
So my question is, how do you actually pick your battles when everything feels like a battle worth
picking at the time? I want to be heard not walk on eggshells but I also don't
want to keep clashing with someone I really care about. I would love your
advice on how to cool down before having a full-on rager. It's really hard when you
feel something in the moment you can't help it. It's a really difficult one
because I think in time it's such really difficult one because I think in time,
it's such an annoying response, but I think in time and age,
you just like learn to control your emotions a bit better.
Like I think at me in my early twenties,
like I blew up a lot more over things.
And I found it a lot harder to like control my emotions
and like how to like, I found it harder to know
when to pick my battles.
Whereas I feel like now,
you really do have to learn to pick and choose
because not everything's worth the fight
and then the emotional turmoil and then the aftermath.
And then it would, yeah, it's a difficult one.
Also, when you're like constantly like not picking a fight
because I'm not saying that's what you're doing,
emotionally and like passionately expressing
whatever it is you're feeling,
like that can wear him down so much,
especially if he's not like that and he's such a chiller and it's you're feeling. Like that can wear him down so much, especially if he's not like that.
And he's such a chiller and it's like, fuck.
I actually am very like that.
And like Jamie is like very un-confrontational,
like really doesn't like that sort of shit.
And I can really, I actually enjoy like, if I,
like I enjoy blowing up, like it's just my personality.
I'm incredibly hot-headed,
but you really have to compromise
because it will become an issue. And like, they will just be like, it will affect, like if I'm incredibly hot-headed, but you really have to compromise because it will become
an issue and like, they will just be like, it will affect, like, if I were to do that,
Jamie, I can then, once I've shouted or got all my energy out, go off on my day and have
the best fucking day.
He's in a, he feels awful all day.
He's like, oh my God, you've literally ruined my day.
Like, I hate having arguments.
It's drained me.
I feel anxious, like all these things.
And you really do just have to like learn. And like, I think that's just like something in just having a deep
breath or like going for a quick walk. Go and sit in the loo. If he's pissed you off,
just go to the loo quickly. Breathe. Take a moment. Like you have to take yourself away
from that situation in that very moment. Even that text your best friend. Yeah. And vocalize
it all to them. And then, and them. And then you let it out somewhere,
because I do think it's draining for that person
and that's like, and also if you're too hotheaded people,
that's just a crazy situation anyway.
I think men and women are just,
we're wired so differently, like emotionally,
like we can, we express things so,
I feel like most men don't like the confrontation,
that's such a generalization,
but like boyfriends I've been with,
or like men I know, my male friends, my brothers,
for example, like they don't want to fight.
They don't want the confrontation.
Like they just want to have an easier life.
Whereas we, as women, we're not afraid to like speak up,
say how we're feeling, like almost can't help ourselves.
Like if we're feeling it there and then, I have to say it.
Whereas I feel like they can suppress it sometimes
a bit better and they just think, I can't be bothered.
I also sometimes think they don't even notice.
No, they don't.
It's water for dark's back for them.
They're not even, they go, oh, I didn't notice.
You know?
And like, whereas we were like picking up on every small
tiny little thing. They're so blase, aren't they, man?
Also, another thing that you can do is if you really
do want to vent it or get it out to him,
write it in a text, because when you're angry,
you are just going to deliver it in an aggressive way
or like bitter or like seething, and they're going to sense it and be on the back foot.
If you write it in a text, you can really eloquently put it in a very rational way
and they can see it and be like, Oh, do you know what? And respond. And then actually
that it will diffuse the whole situation. Because I agree that like keeping things
pent up is also not a good thing. I also think speaking to your friends is so good.
So healthy. Like even recently, like Toby,
like I was just so annoyed by something
and I called you, I called you,
spoke to my other friend about it
and then I was obviously a bit off with him
and he was like, what is it?
And I was like, look, you have done nothing wrong,
just let me have my moment.
I promise it will be fine,
I just need to have my little straw
and then I'll be fine, please don't panic about it.
Yeah, good.
And he just had to respect that
and like let me get on with it.
And I was fine.
But like-
He respected that as well.
I think that's a very mature way to deal with things
actually, to be so self-aware and be like, I'm fine.
I just-
You've done nothing wrong.
I'm just having a strop and I need you to let me have
my strop and it will all be okay in a minute.
Just let me get on with it.
I need a strop.
Like I have moments where I'm just like,
I need to have a bit of a meltdown.
I need to cause a drama in my life today.
Yeah, and also like one little thing and you're like, like, I need to have a bit of a meltdown. Not that you were, but. I need to cause a drama in my life today. Yeah, and also like one little thing
and you're like, perfect, I need an argument.
Yeah.
Or I need to get annoyed at you.
That's pretty good advice from all of us.
Sorry, are we like therapists?
I know.
That's the end of the episode, isn't it?
That is the end of the episode.
We really yapped on today, I've loved that.
Today was a yap, thank you for having me.
Love you so much, guys.
Love you so much.
Love you so much.
Wee!
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